The Ancelotti era starts with a win and 3 vital points

By Michael Kenrick 26/12/2019 313comments  |  Jump to last
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Carlo Ancelotti will be in the dugout for his first match as Everton's new manager
Everton 1 - 0 Burnley

Carlo Ancelotti takes charge of his first match as Everton's manager with Burnley the visitors to Goodison Park in this Boxing Day clash.

Ancelotti provides a full understanding of his new appointment in his effusive programme notes at the official website.

And he has made two changes to the Everton side for his first game in charge of the Blues. The Italian has brought Seamus Coleman and Bernard into the starting line-up. The injured Alex Iwobi and Tom Davies, named on the bench, are the ones to make way following the 0-0 draw with Arsenal.

Ancelotti was given a fine Goodison welcome before the game, Everton kicking off attacking the Gwladys Street end. Noticeably, there was no wild aimless hoof upfield, Everton trying to play it out from the back and down the flank. But head tennis the scrappy physicality led to a Burnley free-kick well delivered they came so close to scoring, Mina heading off the line.

Everton continued to try and play it out from the back, eventually finding space down the right, Richarlison advancing and seeing his shot blocked when Digne was open on his left. Everton won a free-kick that Sigurdsson put on Mina's head that fell nicely for Holgate but he messed up his chance and the chance was gone.

Another fast-paced forward movement was cleared by Burnley for an Everton corner that was defended away. Passing was a lot crisper and more purposeful from Everton, determined to keep possession. Richarlison got another run and was barged over by Brady, for a very tempting set-piece. Digne's left-foot strike spun away off the top of the wall for a corner that was caught by Pope with Bernard incongruously trying to block him.

Everton were trying their best to pass the ball into attacking positions but the close pressing from Burnley defenders denied them the space until Coleman lost his man with a nice turn but then he passed it back into the massed Br=urnley defence rather than lashing a shot at Pope.

Calvert-Lewin was bowled over, and Sigurdsson put the free-kick right on Calvert-Lewin's head but his body position was all wrong and another glorious chance was gone. With a quarter of the game gone, it had been mostly Everton but without the clinical finishing needed to make it count.

Some nice Brazilian play between Richharlison and Bernard was rewarded with a corner but Burnely seemed to have the measure of the best Sigurdsson deliveries. Another chance came from a free-kick, again delivered superbly but defensive header away again.

Some great movement and pace down the middle saw Bernard play in Sidibe who's shot was saved with a desperate lunge by Pope that almost bounced in off a defender but was cleared again.

Digne gave away a free-kick wide right that was delivered perfectly for Wood but it came off the top of his head and well over the Everton bar. Everton's passing was crisp, but Burnley's defensive structure was well-organized and strong, effectively neutralizing whatever the stylish Blues could muster.

Calvert-Lewin brought down a long ball well but was then fouled by Tarkowski, but again it was blocked away, the corner gathered with too much ease by Pope. Everton were clearly under instructions to play out from the back, inviting Burnley to press them.

A great delivery from Digne was perfect for Calvert-Lewin to power hoe a free header but his hopeless technique saw the ball bounce weakly off the top of his head and over the bar, now concept of powering the ball goalward with his neck muscles.

A couple more corners were kept away from Pope but still defended well enough by Burnley who had done their job of keeping a clean sheet against Ancelotti's new charges. Would anything change in the second half as Anthony Taylor blew the whistle before Burnley could take a corner?

Bzurnley restarted the match, the ball spending moSigurdsson was deemed to have fouled, and a deep free-kick from Burnley was headed behind.

Better passing nearly paid off for Bernard, but Sigurdsson and then Sidibe were blocked as the Burnley defense adjusted. But Bernard got a chance to run forward, his shot deflected for a corner that was again headed away by a Burnley man.

Everton were once again turning the screw, but it just wasn't tight enough and they were pushed back. Sidibe got inside his marker but his heavy touch gave Pope the advantage. Burnley finally broke out, Wood free but laying it back for Digne to pick off and deny the chance.

Burnley were getting more adventurous, requiring some strong defending from Everton, who went forward again, Delph clipping a nice ball in to Calvert-Lewin whose weak header was far too soft to beat Pope. An hour gone, when conventional mangers chose to make changes, but Ancelotti had been no different resisting any temptation so far, Everton winning yet another corner that Burnley yet again won in the air.

Under pressure, Everton broke through Bernard thanks to a keen interception and fine pass from Calvert-Lewin but the final ball back deep to Sigurdsson had allowed the Burnley defence to regain its shape and the struggle to break them down resumed.

Bernard was showing some lovely touches and turns but Sigurdsson let him down with an adventurous forward pass straight to a defender. In the next attack, Sigurdsson launched his shot well over the Burnley goal, with still no changes from Ancelotti,

Everton tried another fast break, ut he passing this time was less slick, Coleman's shot came close, just a foot above Pope's bar as the atmosphere became increasingly tense, the crowd agitated but trying to be patient, with only Davies warming up while Burnley made their second change.

Another free-kick, another great delivery from Sigurdsson, another unconvincing header, this time form Mina. At the other end, Pickford was called for supposedly carrying the ball out of the area (he didn't, but no VAR). A free-kick awarded, but no yellow or red card for Pickford.

Moise Kean finally came on but was it too late, with barely 13 minutes left? Sidibe got down the right and delivered a good ball in too close to Pope with Richarlison poaching. Tarkowski was too clever for Kean, whose bulk seemed to lack the required strength.

In the next attack, it finally clicked! A great ball in fro, Sidibe after a very fine ball forward from Sigurdsson, and Calvert-Lewin threw his entire body at this one, just catching enough of it with the top of his head to hit the inside of the far post and bounce along the line, and inside the near post. What a fine goal from Everton and the much-maligned (by me!) Calvert-Lewin.

Richarlison ran in on Pope for a 50-50 ball, that was called as a foul, much to everyone's annoyance. Kean had landed heavily in midfield and needed some treatment. Everton won another corner and Calvert-Lewin leapt higher than anyone else, but his header did not have enough, and flew past the far post.

Richarlison was reluctantly withdrawn for Tom Davies with 5 minutes left as Everton looked to lock the game down. Kean did well to play the ball back for Calvert-Lewin but his awful technique reappeared with a hopeless shot, completely lacking any confidence or commitment.

Everton played out the 4 minutes of added time with some nervous moments to consolidate a very, very important win and 3 vital points in Ancelotti's first and highly significant game of the new era.

Scorer: Calvert-Lewin (80')

Everton: Pickford, Sidibe (90' Walcott), Holgate, Mina, Digne, Coleman, Delph, Bernard (77' Kean), Sigurdsson, Richarlison (85' Davies), Calvert-Lewin.
Subs not Used: Stekelenburg, Baines, Keane, Tosun.

Burnley: Pope, Bardsley, Tarkowski, Mee, Taylor, Westwood, Cork (88' Long), Brady (67' Gudmundsson), McNeil, Rodriguez, Wood (73' Barnes).
Subs not Used: Hart, Lowton, Drinkwater, Pieters.

Referee: Anthony Taylor

Attendance: 39,177


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Bill Griffiths
1 Posted 26/12/2019 at 14:18:28
I saw a post earlier today from someone advocating playing Sidibe in front of Coleman. It will be interesting to see how it works out.
Robert Tressell
2 Posted 26/12/2019 at 14:38:28
Might be an attempt to double up on McNeill, assuming he plays down their left flank. From what I've seen, I'd be pleased to see McNeill in an Everton shirt. Possibly not glamorous enough for the new regime, however.
Jay Wood
[BRZ]

3 Posted 26/12/2019 at 14:49:33
A small, but significant tweak, playing Sidibe in midfield in front of Coleman down the right flank and reuniting last season's very productive left side of Digne and Bernard.

This suggests to me that Carlo wants us more on the front foot and getting more quality delivery into the penalty area which the above four are capable of doing.

Tom Davies, who has been playing well in spite of his doubters, probably needs a breather as Dunc said he was playing with a knock.

Let the fun times begin!

Andy Walker
4 Posted 26/12/2019 at 14:50:11
That’s a good start Carlo, dropping Davies. He too can see his shortcomings. Persistently fouling, easily dummied by the opposition, repeatedly giving the ball away and falling on his arse more than a goalkeeper. Fundamentally he’s never been good enough and has I suspect, only got into the first team in the past as meets the sentimental ‘he’s one of our own kids’ criteria, which has skewed some folks judgement..
Ciarán McGlone
5 Posted 26/12/2019 at 14:56:50
Tom's a grafter... but along with Iwobi hes been poor for the last two games. Whether hes got a knock or not is irrelevant to some of the mistakes hes been making.

Interesting move with Sidibe.. crosses into Dominic and Richarlison would seem to be the order of the day.

Happy christmas to all...

Stan Schofield
6 Posted 26/12/2019 at 15:02:16
Andy@4: I think you're way off the mark as to why Davies has been reoeatedly selected. The managers care nothing about him being a scouser, and ToffeeWebers appear to focus on local lads for particular criticism. So, he's been repeatedly selected on merit.
Gio Mero
7 Posted 26/12/2019 at 15:09:52
Andy Walker #4 I'd say Tom is a bit more than just "one of our own kids".
21 years old with almost a hundred games for us.
So many call ups to the national teams at youth levels.
Picked by all the managers this side of Martinez.
Surely there's much​ more to him than what you give him credit for?
I rate him, he loses possession because he always tries the pass that would put us in the front foot. He gets penalised a lot by the referees true but why is experience so important in football? You cannot expect such a young player to know it all
Tony Dunn
8 Posted 26/12/2019 at 15:45:25
Well said Geo, line most local lads,Hibbert,Osman Barkley etc gets lots of unnecessary stick, good player, you ll miss him if he goes
Jay Wood
[BRZ]

9 Posted 26/12/2019 at 16:00:53
Well I enjoyed that! Well impressed given the very little time Carlos has has together with the team.

It looked a bit nervous in the opening 5 minutes as players re-adjusted to the new manager's evident demand to revert to playing it out from the back, but as the half progressed things definitely got slicker.

It looks a very fluid line up to me, sometimes a back 3, at others a back four. Coleman looks very good in it! Mina and Holgate comfortable, playing out nicely through the lines to Delph, Bernard and Siggy, all also playing nicely. Digne is the one who really isn't up to speed with the rest.

Both Richarlison and DCL a mixed bag. Some very good movement and control, but also some poor decision making on the ball at times or missed opportunities.

Yes, Everton is way ahead on possession and content to go backwards and sidewards at times, but to me it appears more purposeful than under Silva as every player is looking for the quicker more incisive ball forward when the opportunity presents itself.

Very encouraging I thought. Only one irritation. the co-commentator on the stream I'm watching. He's watching a different game to me with his negative comments about how Everton is playing.

Impressive start, Carlo.

Ciarán McGlone
10 Posted 26/12/2019 at 16:02:35
Too much faffing around at the back in that half. Otherwise some decent football on show..

Sigurdsson is having his usual huffing and puffing game though.

Sidibe playing well in the advanced role and Bernard showing some great skill.

Ernie Baywood
11 Posted 26/12/2019 at 16:04:33
Agree with all of that Jay. I don't think I've ever seen overlapping centre backs before. Coleman looks born to it. Holgate not quite so much on his left side.

Burnley tough to break down but we're getting looks. Just need some quality from our front three.

Andy Walker
12 Posted 26/12/2019 at 16:04:43
Stan, some clubs care very much if their home grown youngsters get into the first team. Everton is one of those teams, part of our club’s strategy is to bring through kids into the first team. It’s cost effective, being the argument for it. As such those senior people at the club, who are responsible for trying to make sure that happens have a lot riding on it. If no kids came through then what’s the point of investing in youth? In order to achieve its own objectives and for those in the club directly responsible for scouting, recruiting and developing kids, it’s very important kids get into the first team. The youth team management’s team bonuses will rely on it.

In addition, kids becoming ‘successful’ by making it into the first team, will motivate other youngsters and can help the club recruit prospects when they are very young (sign for us and you really do have a chance to play for the first team).

Culturally our club wants to promote youth in order to fulfil its own strategic objectives. It will make Moshiri happy and everyone in the club wants to do that. That culture within the club will impact on the coach and his selection decisions, whether that’s consciously or sub consciously, after all that is what building a culture is all about in business, influencing employees decision making at a sub conscious level.

So I believe Davies has been the ‘look we brought a kid through to the first team’ example that helps Moshiri kid himself that this part of his strategy is working.

Thing is, it isn’t and all the culture has done is pushed Davies into the first team, when he isn’t actually good enough.

Simon Dalzell
13 Posted 26/12/2019 at 16:12:48
Even if we don't put ANYBODY on. I would take Calvert llewin OFF.
Jim Hillier
14 Posted 26/12/2019 at 16:14:55
Listening via the official club commentary team, so probably getting a more than optimistic message, but sounds like we are doing everything bar put in in the net.
Stan Schofield
15 Posted 26/12/2019 at 16:20:22
Andy@12: Yes, I realise all that background. I witnessed the best ever Everton team, the 69-70 league winners, who had 7 of the 1st team brought through the youth ranks. But I still believe that Davies has been picked on merit.
Ciarán McGlone
16 Posted 26/12/2019 at 16:39:07
Really don't understand Bernard getting the hook.. best player on the pitch by some distance.
Simon Dalzell
17 Posted 26/12/2019 at 16:44:55
Honest truth. My brother said slag him off and he will score !!! Good on him.
Dennis Ng
18 Posted 26/12/2019 at 16:46:41
Simon, slag him off more please
Mads Kamp
19 Posted 26/12/2019 at 16:56:29
FUCKING GREAT start to a new era!

COYB!

Ernie Baywood
20 Posted 26/12/2019 at 16:57:44
Pleased for DCL. We can all see his weaknesses but he's the only player we've got who can lead the line - there are parts of his game that are really suited to it too. A great goal doesn't suddenly solve those weaknesses... You would think it might be a transfer window priority.

All up a pretty decent performance. Looked solid, created bits and pieces.

Jamie Crowley
21 Posted 26/12/2019 at 16:58:31
Great game. Solid football all around. Need to work on finishing, but completely outplayed Burnley.

Merry Christmas, Happy Boxing Day, three points.

Jim Hillier
22 Posted 26/12/2019 at 16:58:38
Deserved three points. Prefer it when we score 5, but who doesn't?
Roger Helm
23 Posted 26/12/2019 at 16:58:40
A good afternoon - solid, combative and a moment of class with Sidibe and DCL to win the points
Ciarán McGlone
24 Posted 26/12/2019 at 17:01:38
Loved that. I really don't understand how people don't see the potential in DCL..

Carlo is one cool mutha..

Happy Xmas lads.

Andy Walker
25 Posted 26/12/2019 at 17:01:57
Stan, I was responding to your point that ‘managers care nothing about him being a scouser’. I think the culture within our club contradicts your assertion.
Andrew Keatley
26 Posted 26/12/2019 at 17:04:46
Really positive and strong performance from everyone. We actually looked like a decent side, although some of the quality in the final third still requires significant improvement. Back four looked solid, Delph and Siggy worked relatively well together, and Sidibe delivered that extra bit of quality when crossing from out wide; clinical and clever finish from DCL, who is starting to make a mockery of the naysayers. On we go.
Jay Wood
[BRZ]

27 Posted 26/12/2019 at 17:04:53
Simon @ 13.

That didn't age well, did it?

Brian Hennessy
28 Posted 26/12/2019 at 17:09:39
Fells like a massive win for us.

Coleman and Bernard were fantastic, Sidbe's cross once again superb. We looked well organised and were by far the better team.

Gerry Ring
29 Posted 26/12/2019 at 17:09:43
Great to see Carlos actually coaching from the sideline at every opportunity.Good to get 3 points with top performances from a lot of players especially Coleman & Bernard. Nice to see the formation being changed. Things are looking more positive.
George Cumiskey
30 Posted 26/12/2019 at 17:09:49
Not a great performance but a fantastic result.
Conor McCourt
31 Posted 26/12/2019 at 17:10:04
Not overly impressive but great start to the Ancelotti reign.

I think this may be a match which will hopefully underpin the difference between Silva and Ancelotti.

Firstly I liked the system and have been calling for it for a while as it really suits Coleman(now) and Sidibe.

Secondly when we began looking predictable and poor which would normally result in a draw under Silva, Ancelotti changed the system again to a 433 which I believe contributed to the win as it gave us fresh impetus.

Happy day for all Blues

Eugene Kearney
32 Posted 26/12/2019 at 17:10:21
Great to get another win.

Thanks DCL. COYB.

Eugene Kearney
33 Posted 26/12/2019 at 17:10:21
Great to get another win.

Thanks DCL. COYB.

Joe Corgan
34 Posted 26/12/2019 at 17:10:26
That was an important win. Wouldn’t have fancied playing Newcastle and then City away with only a one or two point gap to the relegation zone.

Not spectacular but professional and patient.

Dan Parker
35 Posted 26/12/2019 at 17:11:42
We can say it’s only Burnley but they didn’t have any significant chance the whole game, we completely controlled it. Played decent football which has been lacking and got the three points. Just need to be a bit more clinical in front of goal. I thought Delph played well, and Holgate continues to prove he’s a top player. Mina too. DCL delivered once again.
Derek Knox
36 Posted 26/12/2019 at 17:16:39
Not a Classic by any stretch of the imagination but they, defended their area well and tried to stifle any creativity. Still one goal is better than none, and another valuable three points.

Newcastle away next, they seem to have hit a bit of form, so won't be easy but not impossible either. Pleased overall but would have liked another goal to reward our dominance.

Hoped Kean would have got a goal to boost his confidence.

Barry Rathbone
37 Posted 26/12/2019 at 17:17:25
We have some shockingly flawed footballers at this club. Tuned in around the 70 min mark and immediately saw DCL miscontrolling the simplest of passes, Sidibe taking an airshot trying to trap the thing and Holgate attempting a simple lob into space but knocking it straight into touch.

Bar the goal the rest of our play was the same the players from both sides were truly dreadful no wonder the shite are easing through the season unopposed the gap is monumental

I do hope Carlo sees this and more importantly has a massive list of replacements.

Three points but truly dreadful

Mike Powell
38 Posted 26/12/2019 at 17:17:55
We made hard work of that, but will take that, Our midfield needs a overhaul, I know we have injuries, but it needs freshening up
Jay Wood
[BRZ]

39 Posted 26/12/2019 at 17:20:18
Left it late, but we deserved that.

We were the only team trying to win that game. Burnley just set up to steal it.

Only once or twice did I grimace as the defence and midfield played it between them rather than simply hoick it upfield as was the case in the four games under Duncan.

Under Silva, it was constantly heart in mouth time when we played the same way.

Why? Because movement and positioning from his team mates for the man on the ball were often choked off by the opposition. Not so today. There was better movement and often multiple options for the man on the ball.

It's his forte, but I have a sense already that Carlo will quickly crack the defensive side of the team to give us a sound foundation on which to build.

It's also soooooo refreshing to have a manager on the sideline with the capacity to tweak the formation in-game to counter what is happening on the pitch and whose subs are not triggered by the time on the clock, or simply like-for-like.

I don't think anybody had an out-and-out bad game. The standouts for me were Coleman and Bernard. Siggy also had one of his better games of the season. Certainly his dead ball delivery was much improved.

How he recovered the ball tight to the touchline and sent Sidibe away for the cross for the winning goal was excellent.

DCL did some great stuff and he did some duff stuff, but his winning goal was one the likes of Duncan Ferguson and Andy Gray would have been proud of.

Lots to do yet. It would be nice if Carlo could double up on Saturday and record an away win in his first game on the road at Everton. But I for one am chuffed at that showing.

Eric Paul
40 Posted 26/12/2019 at 17:20:23
Tuned in around 70 minutes??? And such an analysis wow
Mark Tanton
41 Posted 26/12/2019 at 17:20:59
Burnley had zero ambition. A decent performance on the whole, and players seem to have instructed to move the ball on quickly. Sidibe was excellent and Calvert-Lewin's transition to Greame Sharpe continues.
Barry Rathbone
42 Posted 26/12/2019 at 17:23:02
Eric @40 glad you agree
Jamie Crowley
43 Posted 26/12/2019 at 17:24:42
One of the biggest criticisms of this team is not beating the teams we should, as they'd give us the ball and we could never break them down.

Today, we broke them down. The scoreline won't reflect that at 1-0, but we had multiple opportunities and tore Burnley apart more than once, despite them defending with 8 to 10 men behind the ball at all times.

Just have to finish / work on final 1/3. Very impressed with Carlo's debut.

Dave Williams
44 Posted 26/12/2019 at 17:25:08
Big improvement. Crisp passing, better movement off the ball to create space, solid at the back where Holgate and Mina played well together. The CM pairing of Delph and Siggy doesnt excite me but they kept the ball moving against a well organised but poor quality opposition.
I didn’t see Bernard for the first quarter and after that he was the best non- defender on the pitch with some lovely runs and passes.
I have long been a supporter of DCL and what a cracking goal- Andy Gray would have been proud of that. Michael criticises his body shape on other headers but he was reaching crosses which were a bit too high or a little behind him. He is leading the line extremely well and picking up some goals too.
A decent performance- Carlo has clearly told them to play the ball on the floor but crisp creative passing rather than pointless square passes. Much improvement to come but a very satisfactory start- well done boys.
Ian Riley
45 Posted 26/12/2019 at 17:26:22
Burnley came for the draw or nick it at the end. No team enjoys playing them. Three points! Ancelotti has had one/two training sessions. It's going to take many games before we see his tactics and style take effect. The hard work will get us results. Great start!!!!
Brian Wilkinson
46 Posted 26/12/2019 at 17:27:25
Good win that, since Ferguson took over, Calvert Lewin has been a different player, now showing his potential when he has support around him, capped off with and Andy Gray type header.

Hard to single a man of the match out, Holgate again top drawer, Delph, Sidebe, but if push comes to shove, I thought Bernard was outstanding today, going forward, tracking back, he was everywhere.

In less than a month Ferguson has totally revamped this team, now Carlo will have the tact and know how to push this team forward.

Small steps but heading in the right direction.

Rudi Coote
47 Posted 26/12/2019 at 17:27:32
Andy Walker @4
Spot on with your observations.
Davurs is simply not good enough for Everton. I don't care how blue he is.
Jay Harris
48 Posted 26/12/2019 at 17:27:44
All thats important is the three points especially with Southampton winning at Chelsea and Watford and Norwich starting to look better.

Its a weird old season. We are now only 2 points off Arsenal and 3 points off Utd. but still only 3 points above 4th from bottom West Ham who have a game in hand.

Lets hope we get something at Newcastle.

Eric Paul
49 Posted 26/12/2019 at 17:31:10
Barry@42
I don’t agree, Holgate was our best player Sidibé provided the cross for DCL to score the winner.
Conor McCourt
50 Posted 26/12/2019 at 17:34:54
Eric I agree. I've always liked Holgate but his lack of physicality held him back. He looks a real class act now wherever he plays and will only get better with maturity.
Robert Tressell
51 Posted 26/12/2019 at 17:36:18
I really like Mason Holgate. Wonderful header from DCL too. Another goal from a Sidibe cross. There's some good foundations there. Just need a goal to kickstart things for Kean.
Barry Rathbone
52 Posted 26/12/2019 at 17:37:37
Eric @49 you should have said that in the first place your original lack of critique was as evident as the lack of technique in my examples which I see you don't contest.

Being "our" best player really isn't a high water mark and I did allude to the goal as the exception.

Do focus

Terry White
53 Posted 26/12/2019 at 17:45:08
I too thought Holgate played well overall. However, he does not have a left foot and had to bring it back on his right every time he brought the ball out, and he had plenty of opportunities to do that. This changed his angles and made it more difficult for him to to play the ball forward.

Having said that, we did manage to get the ball played into space between their lines today (Bernard making himself available) and if Ancelotti can make us a team that can do that on a regular basis, rather than sideways passing along the back, we shall be much more effective going forward.

Eric Paul
54 Posted 26/12/2019 at 17:48:03
Barry all I see is your lack of interest by only tuning in at 70 minutes
Mark Tanton
55 Posted 26/12/2019 at 17:48:47
I had a house full today so couldn't hear the commentary properly on Prime - did they say Ancelotti has had the pitch widened? I was sure I had heard that said.
Steve Brown
56 Posted 26/12/2019 at 17:49:33
Barry @ 52, I'd recommend you miss the final 20 minutes as well next time. That will save us having to read your posts.
John Boon
57 Posted 26/12/2019 at 17:52:38
This was a hard win that should have been easy. Burnley did not have one attempt on goal, but when a team has as much possession as we did you would expect more goals.

I thought Holgate was really good. Calvert lewin has also improved but his first touch when he is inside the box prevents him from being a genuine top striker. I don't think any player was particularly off. Coleman showed he still has much to offer but we are sadly lacking mid field dynamism.

I think that Ancelotti will have learned a lot in these last two games against Arsenal and Burnley. I hope his football wisdom transfers over to the players. Now let us win at Newcastle for as real drive upwards.

John Boon
58 Posted 26/12/2019 at 17:52:38
This was a hard win that should have been easy. Burnley did not have one attempt on goal, but when a team has as much possession as we did you would expect more goals.

I thought Holgate was really good. Calvert lewin has also improved but his first touch when he is inside the box prevents him from being a genuine top striker. I don't think any player was particularly off. Coleman showed he still has much to offer but we are sadly lacking mid field dynamism.

I think that Ancelotti will have learned a lot in these last two games against Arsenal and Burnley. I hope his football wisdom transfers over to the players. Now let us win at Newcastle for as real drive upwards.

Robert Tressell
59 Posted 26/12/2019 at 17:53:14
And I should say that I'm so glad now we didn't play safe and appoint Dyche or Moyes or someone of that ilk. Burnley are horrible to watch. There was a spell when I thought Dyche would be a good idea - but glad the club has shown some proper ambition.
Eric Paul
60 Posted 26/12/2019 at 17:55:43
Steve @56
Nice one
Barry Rathbone
61 Posted 26/12/2019 at 17:56:10
Eric@54 That's your problem not mine, if you lack the ability to judge mistakes as they happen I can't help you.

Steve@56 stop sulking it's about opinion perhaps you believe this type of error ridden football is what Carlo wants and explains the glut of trophies his cv lists.

Wakey wakey

Eric Paul
62 Posted 26/12/2019 at 18:01:54
Barry I’m not asking for your help as you obviously know nothing about football, I’ve watched the whole game like I do every game . in the ground
Dave Williams
63 Posted 26/12/2019 at 18:02:58
For heavens sake Barry just be pleased that we won and kept another clean sheet. Had you seen the whole match you would have seen a much improved display with some promise of better things to come.
He can’t wave a magic wand - this job will take time- but take heart at three more points, unbeaten now in five games and a new manager who showed some ingenuity today.
Life is looking up, really!!
Kim Vivian
64 Posted 26/12/2019 at 18:05:59
The impression I get is that someone pissed on Barry Rathbone's Christmas dinner.
Andy Crooks
65 Posted 26/12/2019 at 18:06:16
Good start with some good performances. I thought Holgate was superb. He is going to be special. On the downside I think Pickford is an utter liabilty, spreading nerves through the defence.
He was fine as an heroic shot stopper at doomed Sunderland. As a calming influence and cool head at a team with lofty aspirations, he is totally inadequate. He is a howler waiting to happen every game.
Jerome Shields
66 Posted 26/12/2019 at 18:06:26
Ancelotti managed the game well.

He knew that Burnley would set up shop and try to push up in midfield. Everton would have been ahead, if not for Pope. Sidebe playing in front of Coleman added to the midfield and provided the essential early ball into the attack. Both Delph and Sigurdsson could learn from this. Bernard eventually did and we got less draw backs and more incisive passing from him. Mina and Holgate working well together. Min a still get caught out, but Holgate going from strength to strengh. Coleman and Sidebe initially did not get it together in defence, but soon overcome that. Richardson played well , but it was tight infant first half.

Burnley went to p!an B in the second half pushing more into the centre field, but Everton kept to task and Ancelotti let Burnley use all options keeping Ever tons shape the same. With more space available he made substitutions and Everton got more chances. Kean will be a better prospect until Ancelotti and it looks that Calvert Lewin will also benifit.

Set Peices defended well against with a higher line. , but Everton need better balls in when they get there own set peices.

Better possession mean''t a more even attack on wings compared to centre, which made things a lot more difficult for Burnley. Faster ball. movement in midfield and better pass comp!etion in the final third would really add to the attacking options.

Most important of all is that Ancelotti knows what he is about and can get it across to the players.

Barry Rathbone
67 Posted 26/12/2019 at 18:06:51
Eric@62 "Obstructed view" seats by the sounds

Your snark about a 20 min judgement is best addressed by the comment one of the greatest footballers of all time shared with me "you can tell a great footballer in an instant and a poor player in half that time"

Eric Paul
68 Posted 26/12/2019 at 18:08:17
And a poor fan in 20 minutes
Dave Williams
69 Posted 26/12/2019 at 18:08:48
Andy- agreed re Pickford. He doesn’t inspire calm does he? A keeper like Pope who was great at plucking crosses out of the air would be far better and Pickford off field antics don’t help the image either.
Dave Abrahams
70 Posted 26/12/2019 at 18:09:36
Barry (67), you should have just watched the last minute then!!!
Barry Rathbone
71 Posted 26/12/2019 at 18:11:55
Dave@63 Not everyone is of a happy clapper temperament I opine as I see and post as I receive. An individual started off snarky so got bopped on the nose - he'll learn
Kevin Molloy
72 Posted 26/12/2019 at 18:13:21
it's just so great to have a top coach in charge at last.
Barry Rathbone
73 Posted 26/12/2019 at 18:16:51
Eric@68 by your weird logic the vast majority of fans around the world doing other things rather than going to GP or watching the game throughout are"poor fans"

Juvenile in the extreme, now can you Kindly stop digging

John G Davies
74 Posted 26/12/2019 at 18:18:01
Andy,

Holgate was very good today.
Massive improvement from him.

Thought DCL continued his progression, goal was the iceing on the cake.

Sidibe great again.
Bernard very influential.

All in all a good start to Ancelottis management.

Barry.
Surely not mate?

Eric Paul
75 Posted 26/12/2019 at 18:19:26
bopped on the nose? You are just making yourself look like the fool that you are
Robert Tressell
76 Posted 26/12/2019 at 18:20:23
Sadly it is looking like a keeper is a priority signing unless Carlo can get Jordan to calm his trunks. Interesting that Mcneill hardly seemed to get a kick for Burnley. Had thought he might be a quality english addition but poss not.
Christy Ring
77 Posted 26/12/2019 at 18:20:40
A big 3pts, against a team who came to spoil, sit back and defend. Calvert-Lewin kept plugging away, and got his just reward, against two strong centrebacks. Delighted to see Seamus putting in another solid shift, still lacking a playmaker in midfield, hopefully Ancelotti can fill that void, in January.
Mike Gaynes
78 Posted 26/12/2019 at 18:22:32
Guy watches for 20 minutes and then analyzes the game as "truly dreadful"? And then brags of his brilliance and claims others need to learn. From him, no doubt.

And then this gem: "I do hope Carlo sees this..."

Um, yeah, he was on the touchline so he probably did.

What a putz.

Barry Rathbone
79 Posted 26/12/2019 at 18:23:16
Eric@75 Let's just call it quits you can go on criticising fans who didn't attend and I'll carry on pointing out the issues Carlo must attend to.
Stan Schofield
80 Posted 26/12/2019 at 18:24:28
Andy@25: The seven I mentioned in the 69-70 team were chosen for their ability. All young players I've ever seen in the 1st team have been chosen for their ability. This is the 'culture of the club', choosing young players based on ability, after developing them through the youth ranks.

When a player like Schneiderlin is chosen repeatedly despite criticism, many people assert that the choice is because we paid a lot of money for him. When a player who's come through the ranks is chosen repeatedly despite criticism, many people assert that the choice is because 'he's one of ours'. In both cases, people are making an assertion. And that's all it is, an assertion. On the other hand, my conclusion that players are chosen on merit is based on my observations.

Peter Neilson
81 Posted 26/12/2019 at 18:24:58
Thought Seamus and Sidibé had good games especially second half and Holgate looked comfortable. Hard team to break down with our lack of creativity, one for Carlo to solve. Can’t comment further as like Eric my opinion is restricted by being at the game.
Robert Tressell
82 Posted 26/12/2019 at 18:27:26
Calvert Lewin did do well. He's got 6 in 17 for us this season. Abraham and Rashford are better, but v few other strikers as good in his age bracket around Europe. Its a tough league to score goals in. With him Kean and Richarlison I don't see any urgent need to sign a striker. As you say Christy, a quality play maker would make more difference - especially for Kean who makes intelligent runs that our current midfield do not spot (albeit thats the sort of pass the much maligned iwobi tends to look for)
Barry Rathbone
83 Posted 26/12/2019 at 18:27:50
Mike@78 "And then brags of his brilliance"

Keep making stuff up this is the era of "fake news" after all.

"putz", lol

Mike Gaynes
84 Posted 26/12/2019 at 18:30:55
It is certainly the era of "fake news" when we can be treated to a game analysis by a guy who saw less than 1/4 of the game.

Can't wait to read your book review of "The Two Musketeers."

Martin Mason
85 Posted 26/12/2019 at 18:31:43
Barry@67, but that is somebody who, unlike you, knows something about the game.
Dave Williams
86 Posted 26/12/2019 at 18:34:23
I’d sooner have DCL than Abraham, Robert. As you say in your post if we can add a midfield playmaker to dictate our play I think our young strikers will make rapid progress, having better service and more clear cut chances. DCL is coming along quickly since Silva left.
Kevin Dyer
87 Posted 26/12/2019 at 18:34:26
Good performance and Carlo is off the mark, great to see. Burnley time-wasting from the start. Thought we were a little nervy the opening 5 mins and Burnley did try and force things a bit to start the second but other than that we dominated. Great atmosphere (from TV) as the crowd got behind the team.

Pickford (6): little to do, had to come out as we were caught square for one when he handled it outside the box, not great but got away with it. A few errant kicks straight out of play. Think Pope is the better GK tbh.

Coleman (7): busted a gut and some excellent supporting runs. Doesn't have the burst of old but far from slow, as some like to suggest. Made me nervous a couple times in possession as last man.

Mina (7): solid game, one vital headed clearance early on. Jury still out.

Holgate (8): unlucky not to score. Handled their physical strikers no problem. Comfortable on the ball. Can play DMC very well too as he has pace and a great engine, what's not to like?

Digne (7: not sure he's fully fit, solid showing, couple of decent crosses and interplay with Bernard. A lot more to come. Could be worth resting for Baines.

Sidibe (7): great cross for the assist, not involved enough first half but a bit of a beast when he hits his stride. A buy at the end of the season, surely?

Sigurdsson (8): predictably moans about him on a rare foray onto the live forum. In reality, produced an excellent all-round midfield display. Battled for everything, made some crucial interceptions and tackles to break up play, including the one that led to the goal. Good FKs but corners sub-par. Always comfortable in possession and kept us ticking. Tried a few through-balls but difficult to play through a compact team sat so deep.

Delph (6): barely noticed him for half an hour. Recycled possession OK but needs to do better to retain his place long-term.

Bernard (8): didn't touch the ball for about 15m, gradually imposed himself and carried a real threat as he drifted infield. Couple of good sequences with Digne.

Richarlison (7): busted his ass as per, some dangerous passages of play, couple of wasteful shots but can't give him a "6" just for his effort alone.

DCL (8): complete striker's performance. Thumping header for the goal. Battles the hardest centre-halves and gives no quarter. Strong in the air, holds the ball up about 5x better than Lukaku. Never stands around waving his arms if he loses the ball or the right pass doesn't come, brilliant attitude. Makes intelligent runs, improving his finishing, leaves it all out there on the park. I bet his teammates loves him tbh. Maybe some posters will cut him some slack eventually?

Subs: Kean - liked his contribution, bags of potential and I'm certain Carlo will get the best from him. Davies - good cameo, very good at winning cheap FKs to relieve pressure, nice first-time passes, should put pressure on Delph. Walcott - not enough time to show anything.

Roll on the next game.

Barry Rathbone
88 Posted 26/12/2019 at 18:35:37
Mike@84 You don't seem to understand the concept of "fake news" perhaps you think I only watched from, let's say, the 83rd minute.

Grow up for goodness sake

Robert Tressell
89 Posted 26/12/2019 at 18:37:57
... But who is that playmaker, he asks (trying to ignore the people managing to fall out after a win on boxing day). Well... Very limited options in Jan.

Perhaps:

- James Rodriguez (long shot, might not be arsed even if we could get him... Could become our Ozil and not in a good way)

- Ziyech (probs hunting for a much bigger move in summer)

- zielinski (some rumours to this effect but seems more of a runner that a clever passer)

- lobotka (clever passer but plays v deep - v short - like a poor mans modric)

- maksimovic (v clever player at Getafe. V adaptable positioning.)

Anyway, hopefully everyone will find this guesswork utterly fascinating and stop arguing. I'm now going to my tea and some beer.

John Keating
90 Posted 26/12/2019 at 18:38:01
An extremely important well deserved win.
Sound defensively and great to see a manager who will adjust the formation and tactics during the game.
343 to 442 What a difference seeing 2 up top at times
Silva couldn't get his set formation out of his mind regardless of the opposition

Obviously it will take time and we will have set backs but as long as we can see improvement, unlike the last fool.

Barry Rathbone
91 Posted 26/12/2019 at 18:39:33
Martin@85 You have no idea about my footballing background so do stop going for the "buffoon of the day" award - there's already a list
Dave Williams
92 Posted 26/12/2019 at 18:41:02
Robert- that’s the question and you clearly have a better knowledge of world football than me!
A Maddison type would be ideal but where the next one is I haven’t a clue but I’m sure Carlo will know of a few.
David Hallwood
93 Posted 26/12/2019 at 18:41:06
Just watching the man u vs barcodes, and defensively Newcastle are all over the place.
Ray Roche
94 Posted 26/12/2019 at 18:41:22
Barry Rathbone (numerous)

It’s better to keep your mouth shut and let people think you’re a fool than to open it and remove all doubt.

Same goes for posting on TW.

Mike Gaynes
95 Posted 26/12/2019 at 18:50:48
Kevin #87, I like your ratings, maybe a bit generous on a few. Heartily agree on Sidibe, €14m looks like an absolute bargain price at this point.

You make a key point on DCL. He has become the best clearance target man in the Prem -- fearless, strong leaper, great timing, flicks the ball on into good spaces. His weak spot has always been an inability to translate that aerial ability into goals in the box -- not making the strong commitment, not able to adjust in the air. Today, on that goal, he did both. Great to see him beginning to show signs of a poacher's instinct.

Eric Paul
96 Posted 26/12/2019 at 18:50:58
Barry@ 79
I am not criticising fans who can’t attend the game, just you. I know lots of people just like you who watch 20 minutes (usually highlights) and offer blinkered opinion. They are called gobshites
Andrew Laird
97 Posted 26/12/2019 at 18:51:27
Merry Christmas Barry Rathbone. Maybe give someone a call?
Mike Gaynes
98 Posted 26/12/2019 at 18:51:45
Barry #91, the list is one name long and the competition has closed. You have cornered the market.
John Tierney
99 Posted 26/12/2019 at 18:51:47
Beware Ray @ #94, Barry has a ‘buffoon of the day’ list. The irony would be amusing if it wasn’t so sad.
James O'Connell
100 Posted 26/12/2019 at 18:53:16
Mike@84 thank you for that comment made me laugh out loud while besieged by inlaws.
Steve Carse
101 Posted 26/12/2019 at 18:53:45
Mark (55), I didn't hear the reported comment about pitch width but it wouldn't surprise me if Ancelotti would prefer it widened. At 74m it's one of the narrowest in the PL. It used to be several yards wider until Walter Smith had it narrowed. Don't think it was ever put back.
Barry Rathbone
102 Posted 26/12/2019 at 18:53:49
Ray@94 Are you posting from North Korea?

If you can't deal with opinion contrary to your own try hot milk and biscuits your blood pressure must be through the roof

Hilarious how the same people who complain about our declining status as a club take umbridge at honest analysis of why.

Mike Gaynes
103 Posted 26/12/2019 at 18:55:43
Ray #94, you always say it best, my friend.

(I hate you for that.)

Andrew Laird
104 Posted 26/12/2019 at 18:56:19
I really hope Barry is in book and film clubs, I’d sign up just to hear his critiques
Jim Bennings
105 Posted 26/12/2019 at 18:57:32
Solid dirty win in shit weather, that will do me all day long, I’ll take more of the same on Saturday afternoon at Newcastle.

The football is rarely free flowing at this time of year, it’s all about digging in and doing that bit more than the opposing team.

I’ve been crying out for a return of the art of 1-0 wins, and today we got it and it feels extremely satisfying.

John Reynolds
106 Posted 26/12/2019 at 19:00:40
Early doors it looked like Silva 2, with Jordan’s short kick outs, struggling to play it out from the back, and our inability to deal with a side sitting deep with two banks of four. I began to miss Dunc’s blood & thunder approach. But gradually it started to come together, and players showed for each other much better than we’ve previously seen.

Good to see Bernard much more influential and Seamus continuing his good run of form. Again one of our best performers and proving he shouldn’t be written off yet. Delighted that DCL’s hard work was rewarded with a lovely finish.

It was also great to get a sense of Ancelotti’s much talked-about tactical nous and game management in practice. The Sidibé experiment worked well and the subs, positional and formation tweaks all made sense. There was none of the panic we got used to seeing in the last 10 minutes under Marco.

Barry Rathbone, you seem like the kind of chap who could start a fight in a mirror.

Barry Rathbone
107 Posted 26/12/2019 at 19:02:07
Mike@98 "list" is plural you can't have a list of "one". I'm guessing too much eggnog at your gaff especially straight after your debacle of making stuff up.

What a hoot this is you just rocketed to the top of the "list"

Come on guys calm down both teams were dreadful loads saying it in various forms just not as directly.

Mike Gaynes
108 Posted 26/12/2019 at 19:03:10
Jim #105, and watching the Barcodes come completely unglued at OT now should give us every reason for optimism about Saturday. Their backline is putting on a comedy performance that makes Monty Python look like a papal conclave.
Allan Board
109 Posted 26/12/2019 at 19:03:12
A very important 3 points and controlled performance. An immediate difference I noticed was the quicker play through the centre of the pitch, especially 2nd half-definitely coached. All we could ask for so we all should be happy!
As for the opposition, well word's fail me. I do coach all ages from 7 years old to adult and if I sent any team out to be so negative, dull, thuggish and in a way disrespectful to the game of football, I'd jack it in tomorrow. I really took interest in Mr Dyches post match interview and can only conclude he talks absolute drivel. The prospect of ever having such a pre historic coach at our club again has thankfully been allayed for the foreseable future.
Buon Natale Mr Ancelloti and all Evertonians.
Kelvin Leung
110 Posted 26/12/2019 at 19:05:13
DCL's footwork/technique and shooting might be his weakness, but he is certainly growing into a decent target man - and a highly mobile one too. He may not be our 20-goal a season striker (10-15 perhaps?) But if they are mainly result-converting ones like today's then I'd be happy with that. Another striker is certainly a transfer priority, but maybe a finisher who can capitalise on DCL's second balls and work rate, rather than a replacement per se?
Justin Doone
111 Posted 26/12/2019 at 19:10:09
Hope all Evertonions have had a great Christmas followed by a really good and important win.

Burnley are always a good test of character as much as anything. They could have been 1-0 up in the first few minutes, how that would have changed things doesn't bear thinking about.

Anyway, happy to have an experienced winner in charge and if he can improve our psychology through winning luckily then great. Added confidence and belief is all well and good but at times you just need some good luck which brings positivety and belief.

I'm not a fan of defenders playing needlessly with the ball. As other managers have found out we don't have the players to do it well and cough up far too many easy chances for opposing teams. Please stop.

Why Digne crossing ability has gone down the drain along with Colemans refusal to cross really annoys me. Sidibe shows how easy the game can be. 3 players in the box wanting a cross.. Play the ball in and stop passing back or infield. Forward Momentum please.

Siggy passing was mostly terrible. Delphs not much better. Giving the ball away repeatedly. But some fans would rather have a pop at DCL and Davies then the senior players on the pitch.

We know they are not world class players. They are young improving players that have ability and potential.

To finish positively Holgate has been outstanding this month. Well done to him because I thought he was still a year or two away from being a premier league centre back. He and Mina were very good.

Mike Gaynes
112 Posted 26/12/2019 at 19:13:27
Steve #101, that's true? Walter had the pitch narrowed? I never knew that.

Interesting if Mark heard correctly. I'm not sure how they would widen it now... having walked that touchline, I've seen the incline -- it's surprisingly steep and you can see why players challenging for the ball go skidding into the side boards in wet weather. It would certainly take some engineering there to add even two yards on each side.

Ernie Baywood
113 Posted 26/12/2019 at 19:15:00
You don't have to attend the game, Barry. You don't even have to watch it.

You can offer an opinion caveated on only watching the last 20 minutes (in which half of that time was spent protecting what we had).

What you can't do in that time is be completely definitive about the team being truly shite.

Mick Davies
114 Posted 26/12/2019 at 19:15:26
Kevin Dyer What game were you watching? Siggy deserved a 5 at best and DCL didn't do much except score the goal - the likes of Holgate, Coleman, Sidibe and Bernard assured us of a result
Barry Rathbone
115 Posted 26/12/2019 at 19:21:09
One encouraging point was an immediate acceptance of Dunc's input on the touchline.

Both him and Carlo were like comrades from decades past discussing the subs. Bodes well for a smooth transition when proper footballers are brought in.

Liked Carlo's thumbs up to the director's box, shades of - "I've got this, lads"

Dave Brierley
116 Posted 26/12/2019 at 19:24:10
Just put this post on the live forum and then read some of the stuff on here. Bit more positivity in 2020 for some of you I think.

"Lot of positive stuff on here tonight which is as it should be. You could see the shape of a team there already and with Don Carlo and Big Dunc on the case I am very optimistic. Sidibe, Bernard and for me Seamus were excellent. And Siggy did more today than he has in the last ten games. Holgate is becoming a player and DCL will go on to great things. Just need Brenda to give Klippety a slap tonight for a great end to the year. Thanks to Lyndon and Michael for their incredible work during the year. Delighted for George Mc who sent out positive vibes before the game and I wish all ToffeeWebbers a fabulous New year. This time next year Rodders."

Sean Kelly
117 Posted 26/12/2019 at 19:27:38
100% record Carlo well done
Gavin Johnson
118 Posted 26/12/2019 at 19:29:26
Steve & Mike,

Walter had the pitch narrowed in the hope it would compensate for the unskilful shower of squad he had. As far as I know it was put back to the usual dimensions under Moyes but I could well be wrong.

As for today's game, it was great to watch in the first half, albeit for the wasteful end product. The 2nd half was boring and a chore to watch for great parts. There were times when I thought Burnley would sneak a winner like they did in one of Koeman's final matches in charge. DCL goal was a beauty and he will be a part of the squad for many years to come. He's improved this season and I'm surprised some posters didn't see what else he did today, apart from scoring. Then again, We all see the game differently and have our opinion. I don't think Bernard did that much until the 2nd half when he began to drift more into the middle and carried the ball. For me, he did nothing in the first half.

Gerry Ring
119 Posted 26/12/2019 at 19:29:28
Mick @114 I totally agree with you. Coleman, Holgate & Bernard were outstanding. DCL can count himself lucky he wasn’t substituted prior to his goal. Always gives 100% but maybe tries too hard. I think Carlos can develop DCL into a better player. Delph & Siggi were practically anonymous apart from a few good occasional flashes. Sidibe is solid & one of a few really versatile players we have. Incidentally, no way was he MOTM, to me, Bernard deserves that accolade.
Mike Gaynes
120 Posted 26/12/2019 at 19:32:29
Mick #114, DCL may not have done much in the box until the goal, but he won every header on every clearance in the center of the pitch and keyed a number of our attacks with flick-ons. He wasn't beaten in the air one time that I saw.

And Siggy was our leading tackler. I await the game stats to find out how many he got, but he was all over the midfield winning balls.

Gerry #119, one startling statistic about Sidibe -- he has 43 tackles in just 11 appearances. Those are Gana-like numbers. Team leaders Digne and Rich both have 44 in 19 games.

Joe McMahon
121 Posted 26/12/2019 at 19:33:25
Positive start from Carlo with a poor squad. If he can be behind just 4 signings then we will be very happy blues. As been mentioned I also liked the thumbs up at the end.
Barry Rathbone
122 Posted 26/12/2019 at 19:33:27
Ernie@113 Do you think it possible that conclusion was not just on those 20mins but the rest of the season? Even so given other reports for the rest of the game were of a dreary non event are you disputing both teams were dreadful ?

Maybe the examples given were to substantiate this longer term picture to explain what Carlo needs to do.

If not and you prefer jumping to conclusions then hop aboard your very high horse it makes no odds to my opinion.

Paul Jeronovich
123 Posted 26/12/2019 at 19:33:52
Great win today even more so with the way the relegation fight is shaping up. One thing today though was our set pieces, Sigurdsson was woeful. Ten corners and not a sniff at goal, from memory three were floated straight at their keeper. Carlo will know a midfielder is a must ASAP!!
Ray Roche
124 Posted 26/12/2019 at 19:37:26
Barry Rathbone @102

No Barry, I’m not in North (or South) Korea, the fact that I’m chowing down on a Labrador tagine is purely coincidental.

Jay Tee
125 Posted 26/12/2019 at 19:38:37
Have to disagree with the negative comments and agree with Dave Williams who saw the game very much as I did.
Dennis Ng
126 Posted 26/12/2019 at 19:39:54
We can all quake in our boots anticipating the what changes Don Carlo will make to this team. 1-0 against Burnley isn't fabulous but as some mentioned, The Don showed his class with his subs and tactical changes. Am very excited for DCL and the other young lads in the team. I agree with posters above in how they will feature in the team and become better under Carlo.

Dave @70, I just saw the goal replayed and the stats (I'm a stats guy anyway). Everything played out as I hoped really. Good amount of possession, multiple attempts at goal. I'm sure the sloppy plays other poster(s) mentioned happened but I'm not expecting a miracle nor a repeat 5-1 win against Burnley based on our recent form. May the progress by Don and Dunc continue!

Mike Gaynes
127 Posted 26/12/2019 at 19:40:12
Paul #123, true but his delivery from free kicks was outstanding. We got several good chances off those.
Mike Galley
128 Posted 26/12/2019 at 19:44:15
How did our new boss appear on the touch line? I’m in row O in the top balcony so can’t really the technical area.
Was He stood up and animated or sat down and more reserved?
I’m only asking as one if my friends who sits in the upper bullpens often commented about Silva lack of Movement ( for want of a better phrase) when he was our manger.
Barry Rathbone
129 Posted 26/12/2019 at 19:44:24
Ray@124 Well in, Ray.

I was beginning to think the curse of people taking themselves to seriously had taken over this place, nice retort

Dave Evans
130 Posted 26/12/2019 at 19:46:41
Barry Rath Bone
I see you have been on here at least 90 minutes longer than you bothered to watch the game.
Steve Croston
131 Posted 26/12/2019 at 19:48:22
I watched this game with my inlaws in Poland today, who thought I was absolutely fucking raving mad to be watching a football match on Boxing Day, until I explained it was kind of a tradition.
Anyway, 2 things : we deserved to win and secondly, I've never seen a less effective team at set pieces, especially when we have the less than imposing Yerry "Emile Heskey" Mina at centre half. Jesus if we converted only 5% of our set pieces, we'd almost be in a Champions League place. Something to work on Carlo.
Anyway, a fucking brilliant Boxing Day here in Poland, see you in 2020 xxx
Robert Tressell
132 Posted 26/12/2019 at 19:49:16
I thought DCL did a job we needed him to do and did it well. Won lots of headers, kept the ball in the burnley half, applied pressure and scored. He's no Lewandowski but he's a good premier league striker. We'll need better as we develop as a side - but for the time being he's good. Reflecting on Sigurdsson, he probably played much better than I noticed at the time. Its just that he did a dull job of winning possession, keeping possession and blocking passing lanes. Not very flash but effective. And I bet he covered a lot of ground too. In fairness it was his tenacity that led to Sidibe's cross. Wonder what Carlo makes of it all.
Jay Wood
[BRZ]

133 Posted 26/12/2019 at 19:51:58
Siggy's corners were not woeful. They were a vast improvement on his own and Digne's efforts this season. The delivery was good.

You had a very good goalkeeper in Pope determined to pluck them out of the air.

Two things needed to be better applied by the team at corners which we didn't do today (but did, at times, under Silva):

1) Block off the keeper doing what Pope did well today. This was very much Tom Davies' role under Silva. I only saw Bernard try this once today, but not very well.

2) Anticipate the near post flick ons and have someone feeding off them at the back post. DCL did this superbly on one late in the game and Moise Kean could have had a tap in for his first ever Everton goal, but was on his heels to snap it up.

Graham Williams
134 Posted 26/12/2019 at 19:53:52
I felt Carlito made a difference from the kick off with the formation, ie 3 at the back - Coleman, Mina, Holgate. Jay Wood and John Keating have referred to this. It seemed to allow Sidibe and Digne to try and push forward, with Sidibe linking up well some of the time with Seamus, and Digne with Bernard. It wasn't rigid all of the time, but that was what he wanted. Marco was less flexible, playing 2 defensive midfielders all the time, whether or not the players available were up to it. Encouraging to see a manager being flexible with formation and team selection.

Also chuffed to see DCL getting more credit. Hopefully we've seen the last of the 'championship striker' comments. If we do go into the market in Jan my priority would prob be a midfielder (or maybe Zouma if he was possible).

Barry Rathbone
135 Posted 26/12/2019 at 19:58:18
Dave@130 I must remember to tell my mother who suffers from vascular dementia not to ring during the game and while we're at it is there any other narrow minded message you would like me to pass on?
Ray Roche
136 Posted 26/12/2019 at 20:02:35
Sorry to hear about your Mam Barry, tough times as I know from experience.
Joe McMahon
137 Posted 26/12/2019 at 20:03:15
Graham, I personally feel priority is to try and find a proven goalscorer. This has not been addressed since Lukaku left. As a unit Everton do not score enough goals. I feel a quality striker would also benefit Moise Kean.
Brian Wilkinson
138 Posted 26/12/2019 at 20:06:18
Mike@108, do not be mislead by the barcodes today, half that team will not play on Saturday.

Bruce made a lot of changes and sacrificed today to try and go all out Saturday as he saw it as a better option to pick up points.

I still think we will win, but be weary of today’s result and do not expect a same walkover on Saturday by them.

Our current form should see us with a win, but take nothing for granted in this game.

Second point I liked from today was Carlo hilighting how Lewin can improve even more by staying more central and not to go out wide.

Brian Williams
139 Posted 26/12/2019 at 20:07:48
* Thinks *
I wonder what it'd be like to be awarded "buffoon of the day" by prick of the thread?
Tony Abrahams
140 Posted 26/12/2019 at 20:14:41
Allan@109, good observation about quicker play through the middle of the pitch mate, and something I can’t wait to see once we have got more confidence, and hopefully a schemer, because football is great when it’s played forward quickly through the middle of the park

I thought Richarlison, was very selfish at times during the first half electing to shoot rather than play in Sibide, who was in some great advanced positions, I thought Bernard was great nearly every time he touched the ball, but he just didn’t touch the ball enough, but I honestly can’t remember the last time Everton tried to play really purposeful football through the middle of the pitch, and this is something I’m praying is going to be part of our future under Carlo Ancelloti?

A hard fought win, on a “Boxing Day-Ernie!”

Michael Enggaard
141 Posted 26/12/2019 at 20:17:32
Barry, you need a rest.
Kristian Boyce
142 Posted 26/12/2019 at 20:22:25
With Dyche’s name being banded around on here over the last couple of weeks, today showed why he won’t get a top level job. They were absolutely awful to watch and probably would have lasted the same amount of time as Fat Sam did here with that brand of football.

David Hallwood
143 Posted 26/12/2019 at 20:23:26
Tony(140) spot on. In fact I'm watching the RS at the mo and they hardly play through the middle and hit the front 3 at the earliest. None of your pass, pass, pass bollocks
Jerome Shields
144 Posted 26/12/2019 at 20:23:31
Kevin#87

Agree with most of the rating, but would have given Sidebe a higher rating. This was Ancelotti at his best, putting Sidebe in front of Colman, neutralized Burnley totally on the right flank and Sidebe early ball and awareness had Burnley constantly under pressure.
Also allowed Everton to attack more through the centre, if it had not been for Pope the game would have been over in the first half. Things improved even more in the second half as a result.

Similar tactics on the left flank , but it took Bernard a while to get the early ball in.

Jerome Shields
145 Posted 26/12/2019 at 20:30:05
Mike #120

Interesting stats on Sidebe. He intercepts alot, showing positional awareness.

Derek Taylor
146 Posted 26/12/2019 at 20:30:54
It seems we've returned to Silvaland, let's just hope this inordinately expensive coach will soon realise all that Fancy Dan stuff is beyond the talent he has available. Duncan's 'revolution` was in vain, methinks.
Peter Gorman
147 Posted 26/12/2019 at 20:32:28
Only caught brief highlights but some descriptions of DCL in general, and his efforts on goal in particular, are extremely harsh and seemingly based on prejudice about his 'League one' status.

Well, I'm also prejudiced - I see a very young man doing a thankless task and who scored an absolute peach today. For the love of God, support him and he should thrive. We all know his shortcomings, let's enjoy the things he does well.

Robert Tressell
148 Posted 26/12/2019 at 20:33:40
It'd be great to have a proven goalscorer but who?

- top tier (no chance - eg Werner)

- aging stars (some chance, but stars fade quickly - see alexis sanchez and diego costa). Edinson Cavani may become available - we can dream!

- second tier (maybe belotti / diaz / dembele / piatek). Trouble is, are they really that much better than DCL? Answer - yes but only a bit better and no guarantee they settle in.

- flavour of the month scoring loads in inferior leagues (see Tosun, Moussa Marega, Andre Silva etc)

- youngsters full of promise (see Lukaku - and see also Moise Kean who we haven't seen the best of)

So great if we've got tonnes of money and can still recruit decent left sided centre half plus midfield reinforcements. Oh and a goalie too probably.

Tony Hill
149 Posted 26/12/2019 at 20:36:55
Exactly, Jerome@144. Sidibe is doing a fine job for us and his passing as well as his crossing can be incisive. I thought Coleman looked refreshed and this could be an interesting partnership. On the other side, Digne remains mysteriously subdued but I expect Bernard to continue in front of him and there is a good chance they will renew their excellent relationship.

I'm also happy with Mina and Holgate who might develop a long term partnership for us.

Overall, very pleased with a narrow win and a clean sheet against a very tough and canny side. A good start. We will buy in January and I think we should be targeting 6th.

Duncan McDine
150 Posted 26/12/2019 at 20:38:01
No reason to get carried away just yet. We narrowly but deservedly beat a fairly poor team today. Burnley don’t gift goals, so it took a good one from DCL (who was mainly very good in all aspects of his game today). The new-manager-honeymoon at Chelsea and Spurs didn’t last long before performances and results slipped... let’s hope our players don’t fall back into the familiar slumber of recent years.
Martin Mason
151 Posted 26/12/2019 at 20:38:56
Barry @91. But a great footballer once said you can tell somebody who has a brain within an instant of reading a post and a total buffoon in half that time". Your knowledge of and status in the game needs no guessing. You're a buffoon and that is making massive allowances.
Jim Bennings
152 Posted 26/12/2019 at 20:49:29
Mixing the play up is the way forward.

There’s no such thing as total football anymore, Man City probably get as close to Barcelona (2009-2014)under Pep but when you think about it, good football is winning football.

Liverpool can play good football but as had already been been mentioned, they play long balls too, but the long balls are very decisive because they always have runners in behind, they have completely controlled this match against Leicester tonight and when you watch them, it’s hard to see them losing a game anytime soon.

I think under Carlo Ancelotti here at Everton, he will know how he wants us to play, progressively yes but he’ll know he needs better standard players to achieve the higher ambitions.

Paul Birmingham
153 Posted 26/12/2019 at 20:50:15
Good to see some character, no panic, and true grit to etch out a result against a team whom cause every one problems, and a few times we rode our luck, but kept and changed shape well, to try and win the game, which we did.

Bernard in my view unlucky to get hooked,Siggy looks like now he’s at the point where he must do this every game, else he’s out and a very good shift by the squad.

A result today like this heralds a new dawn of genuine hope and optimism..

Forget the rest, Everton is what counts.

Enjoy the celebrations and the Very Best to All Evertonians.

Don Carlo, has a big job ahead with this squad, but the crowd and camaraderie today made a difference.

Same every game, and with the crazy results this season, to date, we still have an outside chance of a Euro Spec.

But we have got our pride back and dignity. The best Christmas in many years in context of Everton. There’s a feel good factor in the air. I’m getting on but, the feel good factory and stench of decay is lifting from the club.

Now for The Toon, and let’s make up for last season, I'm sure we will.

Paul Hewitt
154 Posted 26/12/2019 at 20:57:44
Jesus, Ancelotti has had a few days with the players. We won't see his style of play for a few weeks yet. Let's just be happy we won.
Mike Gaynes
155 Posted 26/12/2019 at 20:58:26
Mike Galley #128, from the TV shots shown he was quite animated, talking to the players constantly. If he ever sat down, we didn't see it on NBC. But I can't comment on his movement -- I'm also past 60 and don't have much quickness.

Jerome #145, good catch. Sidibe also leads the club in interceptions per game. But his positioning is also a weakness as a fullback because he gets caught up too often, which is why playing him in the midfield seems like an inspiration.

Paul #153, I don't think Bernard was unlucky -- I think he was completely gassed, as well he should have been after the number of runs he went on. He was all over the park. And given that we have another game in less than 48 hours, I think it was a great substitution.

Tommy Surgenor
156 Posted 26/12/2019 at 21:04:20
DCL has came on leaps and bounds since we have played two up top. It’s been said on here many times that he needs a strike partner. Long gone are the days he used to win headers and chase his own flick ons.

Holgate also improving with every game. I used to think he had a mistake in him but this solid run in the side seems to be settling him. His concentration seems a lot better. I prefer him as the right sided Center back as he is capable of some very nice crisp passes. His left foot is just for standing on.

Paul A Smith
157 Posted 26/12/2019 at 21:04:25
Very tough game but I enjoyed it. We haven't got the greatest players but they are up for games lately.

Thought Holgate and Coleman were on top of their games and Sidibe playing higher up was always positive.

On another note I would resign Deulofeu again. His product is always there and Calvert Lewin would benefit from his supply.

Darren Hind
158 Posted 26/12/2019 at 21:05:16
Mission accomplished.

Hope those who have been so incessant in their criticism of Calvert-Lewin and Holgate are now beginning to see what others have been banging on about.

Both these lads are going right to the top.

Jack Convery
159 Posted 26/12/2019 at 21:06:05
Calling Dr John Watson Calling Dr John Watson please sign in asap.

PS: Robert Tressell I love your book.

3 points Happy am I. Leicester losing sad am I. Come on Vardy FFS!

Ryan Holroyd
160 Posted 26/12/2019 at 21:06:15
If you're slagging off Calvert-lewin then you're a clueless blert and should watch another sport

I see the Bot (aka Derek Taylor) is still talking crap.

Ian Riley
161 Posted 26/12/2019 at 21:06:33
A little reminder to some of you. We did win today. Yes a win!. A clean sheet and a deserved win. For Christ sake we have a top top manager in charge now. Yes, not a top four team but in time improvement will come. Ancelotti stood on that touch line and kicked every ball with the fans. Made tactical changes to win the game then not to lose the game.

I watched Burnley and sorry but their football is what we would have had with Moyes. Our football was one touch with pace at times. Delighted to see and if players cannot improve or meet the standards this manager sets then goodbye.

Newcastle next!

John Reynolds
162 Posted 26/12/2019 at 21:07:15
Great pic

Not that one Jack, I can’t make the link work. It’s here -

https://amp.thenational.ae/image/policy:1.956633:1577386411/Premier-League-Everton-v-Burnley.JPG?f=16x9&w=1200&$p$f$w=2822ad4

Jack Convery
163 Posted 26/12/2019 at 21:13:05
John Reynolds I wish his right hand was situated in a different position. I can just imagine what a kopshite will do with that pic. Great to see the enthusiasm though. Exciting times ahead hopefully. COYBS.
Kevin Dyer
164 Posted 26/12/2019 at 21:13:34
Jerome #144 fair point on Sidibe, I was hovering between 7 and 8.

Mick #114 calling it like I see it. A lot of people on here are down on certain players that never have a good game in their eyes; no idea from previous comments if you dislike DCL or Sigurdsson tbh. However, I put it out there exactly WHY I considered both player well today, all you've done is say they were junk, lucky to be still on the pitch etc. I'm happy with my take, thanks.

Paul A Smith
165 Posted 26/12/2019 at 21:13:43
I thought we looked a lot fitter today. Obviously that hasn't come through the new management yet but we looked a lot stronger in the last 10 than we have done lately.
Colin Metcalfe
166 Posted 26/12/2019 at 21:16:24
Can’t believe we lost against Leicester, they are all over the place, not as good as people make out !
Mick Howard
167 Posted 26/12/2019 at 21:16:42
Great start for Carlo and I thought some of the stick for Gylfi is unfair. He covered loads of ground today and was not playing with two defensive mids behind him, he was box to box and got some great tackles in. Him and Delph in the middle doing that role allows us to have more offensive players on the pitch and they can both turn and play forwards. Looked like we were playing 3 at the back when we had the ball with Coleman tucking in, Mina middle and Holgate left. Sidibe and Digne left and right mid with Bernard going central behind front two. Back to 4-4-2 when we were defending. Some of the fast breaks looked good and far more direct than earlier in the season and a big part of that was no DM’s slowing the play down.
Paul Birmingham
168 Posted 26/12/2019 at 21:17:27
Andy @ 65, agreed and from having the ball, with Jordan in control of the ball, we loose possession, have to contest possession to a poor pass, suicide pass, or are offensively worse, due to his erratic passing.

Jordan Pickford distribution is not reliable, I can’t see Don Carlo, putting up with this any longer.

It’s cost us dearly the last couple of years, and prevention is better than the cure.

Interesting to see if Capo Dei Capi, will warrant a new GK, else focus on coaching Jordan Pickford, whom plays like he’s one of the Makem Lads, Likely Lads, in every game he plays, for Everton.

I see also a lit candle with Moise, and plenty more light to come.

And for Everton, there’s a ray of hope now at the end of this 30 year tunnel.

Let’s beat Newcastle, one game at a time, and see if we can unblock the sewer, in 2 weeks.


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Mike Gaynes
169 Posted 26/12/2019 at 21:19:13
Paul #157, based on the small sample size we've seen (12 appearances now), Sidibe is a better supplier than Geri, and is a far more complete player. Plus Deulofeu would cost £25m and is on £60,000/week. We can have Sidibe in July for half that. No-brainer.
John Reynolds
170 Posted 26/12/2019 at 21:24:21
Great pic
Not that one Jack, I can’t make the link work. It’s here -

https://amp.thenational.ae/image/policy:1.956633:1577386411/Premier-League-Everton-v-Burnley.JPG?f=16x9&w=1200&$p$f$w=2822ad4

Derek Knox
171 Posted 26/12/2019 at 21:25:27
Robert @ 148,yes agree, but like you suggest make sure we get a genuine improvement on what we have already got, although there are never guarantees with any player.

I would like Everton Soares (Cebolinha) okay he more of a goal-scoring midfielder/winger, but a source of goals nevertheless plus it may give DCL and Moise Kean more freedom to operate.

January is rarely a good time to 'shop' for strikers traditionally, or for anyone for that matter. I suggested Everton Soares because their season in Brazil is at it's end I believe and he doesn't have a lot of Contract left. Hopefully Jay Wood or Fran Mitchell can confirm this, or refute it altogether.

I believe a similar position too is Piotr Zielinski (Napoli) who obviously knows Carlo well, and possibly a Centre Back (left footed) will see us safely over the line and competition for places.

Paul Birmingham
172 Posted 26/12/2019 at 21:35:55
Derek, @171, let’s hope Don Carlos, friend of friends, scouting network, can provide a bolster to the squad in 2020.

But there’s more belly and belief, shown the last 3.5 weeks than during the last previous managers, post Moyes.

Paul A Smith
173 Posted 26/12/2019 at 21:36:55
Mike there is now way on earth Sidibe is staying as the right winger.
He was make shift today.
Derek Knox
174 Posted 26/12/2019 at 21:38:06
Paul @ 168, I am somewhat confused too with the Goalkeeping position at Everton, I understood that Stek was moving on, so we got Lossl on a free to act as back-up for Pickford.

He has rarely featured on the bench, seemingly Stek is preferred, but never actually playing in goal, to keep Pickford 'on his toes' hopefully someone can clarify what is going on.

Colin Metcalfe
175 Posted 26/12/2019 at 21:41:14
Derek #174 After today’s game I know which keeper I would prefer between the sticks for the blues, I would swap Pope for Pickford in a heartbeat
Mike Gaynes
176 Posted 26/12/2019 at 21:41:17
DK, Everton Soares is contracted through June 2023. So there won't be any discount on the reported £30m price tag -- in fact, with the reported interest from Milan and West Ham, it might increase. But having finally gotten to see him play a couple of times near the end of the season, I agree with you, he'd be a spicy addition to the attack.

Paul #173, Sidibe played about 1/3 of his games last year at Monaco at right mid. So it may not be his preferred position, but he's no makeshift. And the way both he and Seamus played today, I'd want to see them both on the pitch. I'll bet you a nickle they both start in the same positions on Saturday.

Gavin Johnson
177 Posted 26/12/2019 at 21:49:04
Everton Soares would be a good addition. Gabriel Barbosa would also be a player who's the right age and has been scoring for fun at Santos and Flamengo in Brazil after his unsuccessful stint in Italy with Inter. Out of the two players, he would be more realistic as Inter (parent club) are believed to be willing to sell for the right price.
Paul Birmingham
178 Posted 26/12/2019 at 21:53:11
Derek, I agree with you, 100%.

For me it’s a mystery a keeper that concedes, possession so regularly in any game, how any football team, at any level, can hope to win games.

I can’t see Don Carlo, tolerating this, once he’s completed his suss, of the squad.

Jordan’s a good keeper, but in my view the same errors as of two years ago, are now more common and hence, in very tight games and open games, the same golden rules of possession apply, as in every game.

Let’s see what Carlo’s, GK coach will take up, to improve Jordan, or give Jonas, a chance.

It remains to be seen, if and when, bar injury Jonas will get a chance, else if Carlo, is bringing in, one of his own.

But today’s a great day for a Evertonians across the globe. Celebrate!

Forget about the rest, one day soon Heaven, will rest on BMD, and GP, and the RS, won’t count.

We are Everton, through thick and thin, heaven, and scorn, slander and libel, but we are the Best, money can’t buy, what Evertonians have in their DNA.


Paul A Smith
179 Posted 26/12/2019 at 21:53:50
Not exactly a shrewd move with the options though Mike, we are short and Walcott is coming back from a little lay off.

Sidibe has done some good things when he has played both positions. All his other assists have come from starting at full back and he is a useful squad player.

If Ancellotti has his way he will have a team of athletes playing in their natural positions.

If Deulofeu cost the 25 million you suggest then sound. Thats about the price of a sub to a top side and that is where we want to be.

25 million would guarantee us a great deal of product. His assist record was excellent when he was here and he has matured now and continued to produce more often.


Colin Metcalfe i would too mate.

Ian Bennett
180 Posted 26/12/2019 at 21:55:36
Really pleased with Sidibe. He had a good game against Arsenal, and for me gives us something on the right. For £12m I'd sign him all day long.

Really pleased with Dom and Holgate. Both are growing at challenging times. Both have had championship level at best comments thrown at them, but they're both proving they are good enough to get a good run in the side. Up the blues.

Mike Gaynes
181 Posted 26/12/2019 at 21:57:28
Gavin #177, that "right price" for Gabigol is widely reported to be north of €30m, and it seems unlikely we'd spend that much. Flamengo very much want to keep him but appear to be priced out.
Tony Hill
182 Posted 26/12/2019 at 22:04:08
Ian @180, yes indeed. That header from DCL today was superb. I think Ancelotti is going to bring him on in leaps and bounds. Holgate is a potential great if he concentrates.

Sidibe, apart from his other talents, is already the most lethal crosser of a ball I've seen here since Dave Thomas. He does it naturally.

Gavin Johnson
183 Posted 26/12/2019 at 22:04:25
Mike, I can see us paying £30m on Barbosa, no problem. Carlo joined on the proviso that there would be cash to spend. £30m is unfortunately nothing in football nowadays. Average players like Bolasie and Tosun cost the best part of £30m a piece.
Mike Jones
184 Posted 26/12/2019 at 22:09:46
Paul @178, hasn’t Ancelloti kept the existing goalkeeper coach?
Anyway, I’d have Pope over Pickford any day of the week.
Mike Gaynes
185 Posted 26/12/2019 at 22:12:06
Paul #179, he has 2 goals, 2 assists this season. Hardly what I would call productive. His assists record for us was "excellent" all right, until he went in the tank -- he had zero goals and one assist in his final 23 appearances for us in the full year from December 2015 to December 2016. There was a reason we shipped him out in January 2017, and that reason was that he sucked. Even at his best he remains wildly inconsistent.

Sorry, but the words "guarantee", "product", and "Deulofeu" cannot co-exist in the same conversation. I have no interest in him. As to the price, yep, that may be normal for a sub on an elite team, but that ain't us right now.

But, Paul, ya got me on Colin Metcalfe, who is he?

Derek Knox
186 Posted 26/12/2019 at 22:14:38
I have to agree that Sidibe is not only a good player (a bit suspect defending) but a great crosser of the ball. It was interesting to note when he was subbed today that Carlo gave him a 'real man hug' when he came off, so I think he rates him.

As others have suggested for under £12M is a snip, for a player of his calibre, let's hope we exercise the option when it is due.

Mike Gaynes
187 Posted 26/12/2019 at 22:15:16
Gavin #183, maybe so. I only saw him in two games this year, so I'll take your word -- and that of our TW Brazilian contingent -- that he'd be worth the price.
Robert Tressell
188 Posted 26/12/2019 at 22:17:35
Gabigol is an interesting option. Probably in the category of scored loads in an inferior league. These sorts of strikers, as here, typically shine in the best team in the relevant inferior league. They are used to both lots of possession and lots of chances. We cant recreate that environment. Tosun has been a victim of this. He's quite a clever player and a good finisher. But he isn't good enough to make us look better than we do with DCL up top. Cebolinha maybe. Although a left footer would help. There's Pedrinho too who is more of a left footed playmaker type. Very hyped last season, not so much this season.
Tony Hill
190 Posted 26/12/2019 at 22:20:19
Very pleasing to see the rapport between DCL and Kean in the goal celebration. Bodes well. If anyone can bring Kean to fruition it is Ancelotti.
Mark Andersson
191 Posted 26/12/2019 at 22:31:39
Thanks Baz Ratz for posting and keeping us amused... its why I love my daily read..

On a side note I was bemused the other day that there was not a single artical about Everton on the Daily Mails sport online page.. of course it was all about Klopp and Manure City and Chelsea

Im happy going into 2020 with hope that Everton have finally got a proven manager.

Let the madness of the rumour mill comence of who Everton will be linked with...

Happy festive holidays to blues all around the world...
The sun is shining brightly here in Oz hope all my fellow blues back in the UK are warmed by our new manager...

Kristian Boyce
192 Posted 26/12/2019 at 22:37:38
Mike Jones @184, Alan Kelly is the GK coach now. Dunc brought him in, I'm not too sure if he was the U23's coach or brought in for the interim. He was a decent keeper in is day.
Mike Jones
193 Posted 26/12/2019 at 22:42:12
Cheers Kristian. I didnt think Ancelloti brought a GK coach in.
Gavin Johnson
194 Posted 26/12/2019 at 22:48:49
Mike and Robert

I can't pretend I know that much about the Brazilian league other than knowing who the best teams are. I think someone like Jay wood who knows that league would have a better insight into Barbosa. I wouldn't however, give too much credence to his stint at Inter. He only played 9 times. If anything I'd be worried about his personality than his ability. Barbosa is also still in his early 20's so it could have been a Moise Kean scenario that he just couldn't settle in Italy.

John Voigt
195 Posted 26/12/2019 at 23:19:52
I'm interested in what Everton do in the January transfer window.

Adding players that can't crack the stating eleven doesn't make sense. I'd rather see Everton do nothing than buy players that only have potential or older players that are past their prime.

FYI, I'm a big fan of DCL and don't think we have to buy a striker in January. If we do buy a striker he needs to be world class (and I don't see Everton spending the big bucks to bring in a world class striker).

Rob Dolby
196 Posted 26/12/2019 at 23:21:58
4 and 13 are pathetic.

We played a glorified pub team today. We huffed and puffed but got a quality winner.

Sidebe should be kept Purely for his quality. DCL's header was a fantastic finish. No more than we deserved.

Utft

Mike Allison
197 Posted 26/12/2019 at 23:22:08
Some people are talking about Sidibé having played ‘right midfield’ whilst others are referring to our 3 at the back formation.

I watched the game on TV, where the graphics lined us up as a 4-4-2 but to me it was pretty obviously a back 3 of Holgate, Mina and Coleman with Digne and Sidibé as wing backs. We seemed to play this formation in a much, much better way than I’ve ever seen us do it before, where we’ve often picked 3 ‘proper’ centre backs who hate to be in wide positions. Holgate and Coleman seemed to thrive though.

Delph and Sigurdsson were the deeper 2 in midfield and Bernard started in the hole behind Richarlison and Calvert-Lewin. Richarlison seemed a little deeper at the start of the second half.

Is there any dispute about this? I haven’t seen how MOTD are lining us up yet.

Also, Calvert-Lewin has 6 Premier goals now this season at better than a goal every two games (minutes-wise), his all-round play is excellent and he appears to be getting better and better. If we sign a new centre forward he’d better be seriously good.

We need midfielders; Gomes and Gbamin are injured, Schneiderlin and Delph are both both injury-prone and underwhelming and Sigurdsson will never stop trying but seems to be struggling. Davies is great but sometimes lacks the physical attributes to play at Premier League intensity for 90 minutes and Baningime, who once looked promising but has made no progress in two years, seems to get injured a lot as well.

Rob Dolby
198 Posted 26/12/2019 at 23:24:36
It was 442 with Bernard moving inside as much as possible.

Brent Stephens
199 Posted 26/12/2019 at 23:32:49
Mike #197 I think it wasn't so much about line-up as flexibility.

We seemed to be 3 at the back (Coleman, Mina, Holgate) at times; then 4 at the back with Digne added; then Mina, Holgate and Digne holding while Coleman advanced with Sidibe - now Coleman overlapping Sidibe, now Sidibe further overlapping Coleman. And so on through the game.

Add to that the new and flexible use of Bernard. I thought he struggled with his new role at first, but quickly grew into it.

So the first game, but already such creativity and flexibility in-game with formation and tactics. And how quickly Everton adapted to Carlo's "ask" - the first game!

Mike Gaynes
200 Posted 26/12/2019 at 23:33:01
Mike #197, agree with Rob. What I saw was a back 4 with Digne overlapping more than Coleman for much of the day because Bernard's adventurism opened the space. When Burnley had the ball (which didn't happen much), it was clearly a back 4... Sidibe was pressuring the ball in midfield, but Digne was back parallel to Mina.

Brent #199, that's the most I've seen Bernard driving into the middle since he joined us. In fact, he almost never did that at Shakhtar either. I'm guessing Carlo directed him to do that, and he certainly looked like he was having a good time with it.

Paul A Smith
201 Posted 26/12/2019 at 23:41:29
Mike, Deulofeu creates loads of chances at Waford its not just the assists. He created loads here where we didn't score.

We ain't that, you are right there, and that was my point. We will target a certain level of player and he is the type we can afford and entice.

Koeman didn't want him in the side that last season and I do agree he has faults but his creativity is there.
We lack that.

Mr Metcalfe is another poster talking about Pickford mate thats all.

Bill Gienapp
202 Posted 26/12/2019 at 23:49:13
Great start to the Ancelotti era. We didn't exactly set the place on fire, but we defended well, controlled the match, barely allowed Burnley a sniff of goal and produced the decisive moment of quality when we had to. I was a little nervous when the announcers noted that Carlo had never lost his first game with any club, but thankfully they didn't manage to jinx anything.

On a side note, how about that fan who was just showering abuse onto Anthony Taylor? That had me in stitches for most of the match.

David Thomas
203 Posted 26/12/2019 at 23:59:40
158 Darren,

I think I will wait for them to show a bit more than just playing okay against Burnley at home before I think they are the future for a premier league winning team.

Don Alexander
204 Posted 26/12/2019 at 00:03:33
To me the players will be very aware indeed that unless they start pulling their tripe out from the get-go of every match their time at the very comfortable Finch Farm is coming to an end under CA, and soon.

Moshiri would be bonkers to expect CA to coach the expensive players we have to heights they've never yet achieved. No, Moshiri must surely find the money to sign in the next two windows at least three, if not four, top-notch players costing way more than we're used to spending. That's a centre-back, a centre-mid and a centre-forward, min.

We need gourmet football to achieve what Moshiri promises and you don't get that from the ingredients of scouse.

Daniel Thomas
205 Posted 26/12/2019 at 00:06:07
Does anyone know if there’s a way to screen comments so that I don’t have to read Barry’s drivel?
Andy Crooks
206 Posted 27/12/2019 at 00:23:09
Barry Rathbone, if it's the same man, posted on here quite a bit many years ago. He admired Roberto Martinez and wrote many decent pieces arguing his case. He was an interesting and respected poster.
If this is the same Barry, I can only assume he has things on his mind that make him irritable. I can understand that because I do too.
Ian Linn
207 Posted 27/12/2019 at 00:35:49
Can anyone tell me how Kean got on today - I didn't get to see the game
Jerome Shields
208 Posted 27/12/2019 at 00:47:42
Mike #155

I agree that a left back he did get caught out, but I think our static Centre Backs Keane and Mina did not offer cover. But it is fortunate he did bomb forward, because Everton needed something better than Walcott the roadrunner. Colman now gives cover and support going forward. H
Sidebes biggest strength is releasing the ball early to the forwards accurately and at pace. I noticed in Burnley first attack that Colman and Sidebe did get caught out in two minds, but they got it together after that.

Ancelotti as well as strengthen the right flank with their selection, seemed to try to get Digne forward in support of Bernard, with Holgate offering support on the left flank. You could never do this with Mina or Keane.

Simply, Sidebe is able to complete a pass in the final third and knows when to play it , something that Everton throught out the Silva era didn't seem to train at. The Stats for pass completion in the final third are woeful.

Bernard weakness is his tendency to draw back, which may confuse his marker, but also confuses the attacking runner. In the second half he did this less for a change, probably tackled by Ancelotti at half time about it.

Richarlison passing and pass completion in the final third needs a lot of work, but I expect Ancelotti will make him a world class player when he addresses this.

Both Kean and Calvert Lewin will benefit and improve finishing under Ancelotti.

Delph and Sigurdsson where encouraged to come deep for the ball. In Sigurdsson case avoiding his anonymous streak as Burnley pushed up in the second half. The midfield trio have to increase speed and movement, releasing the ball a lot earlier. Only Bernard is achieving this at the moment.

I think that One of Ancelotti priorities will be a more mobile and better distributing Centre Back to join Holgate.

Pickford really does need to get his act together. Pope is a lot better than him.

Kevin Dyer
209 Posted 26/12/2019 at 00:54:34
Andy #12 Blimey, to go that far to justify why several managers are selecting a player (Davies) you don't rate you're making a whole bunch of unsubstantiated assumptions! The simpler, less convoluted explanation is maybe all these managers maybe see more in Tom than you do? Plus, he keeps getting junior international callups and I'm sure Moshiri's influence doesn't extend to the England setup.
Nicholas Ryan
210 Posted 27/12/2019 at 01:00:16
Mike [184] 'I'd have Pope over Pickford any day of the week. … Yes, and I'd have Ben Foster over either of them!
Mike Gaynes
211 Posted 27/12/2019 at 01:02:24
Jerome #208, I agree with everything you say except one point. Mina is anything but static. Yeah, he looks awkward -- he runs like a 6'4" hyena, on his haunches -- but he has pace enough to stay with all but the fastest forwards, and the amount of ground he covers is amazing. And he is a fine distributor -- sees the right pass and makes it accurately and with touch. Watch and you'll notice that the midfielders and wings never have to stretch or struggle to control a Mina pass... he delivers it on a plate. Give him time, he'll grow on ya.

Ian #207, the best that can be said of Kean is that he attacked off the dribble on every opportunity, aggressively trying to get past defenders. He did not succeed once that I saw.

Nicholas #210, not me. Never. Foster may reach everything but has hands of stone, parries rebounds into bad positions, and his howlers live on in infamy. Check out the Arsenal and Wolves ones from last spring. Way worse than Picks.

Jim Harrison
212 Posted 27/12/2019 at 01:37:05
So, really some suggesting dropping Pickford and giving our third choice keeper a run, just for the crack of it?
Just to be clear, that’s proper insanity there.

Don Alexander
213 Posted 27/12/2019 at 01:40:58
Jordan Pickford is a very young 'keeper. I think it's way too early in his career to be dispensing with him. He makes phenomenal saves and his distribution in a good team (England's) is impressive.

To me DCL is starting to resemble Sharpy in his ability to fully occupy the attention of two centre-backs, and that's no small achievement. Hopefully, like Sharpy did, he'll advance to be a reliable scorer.

Tom Davies is a conundrum to me. At best I hope he can become a "water-carrier" at the base, providing the ball for more skilled midfielders. In fairness he's a way off it to date though, but he's still young, and it's way easier to be a respectable water-carrier when you've got a plethora of talent in front of you.

Mason Holgate is, and I said this on here when we had Stones, a potential Rolls Royce of a centre-back. He too is very young and maybe CA can even at this stage in his career finely hone Mason's talent to achieve the heights.

Steve Ferns
214 Posted 27/12/2019 at 02:11:41
We played a definite 442 today. But it was not a rigid 442. There was a lot of fluidity. Bernard was often inside and was free to go right into the middle and get the ball. This allowed digne to push forward into the space. On the other side, Coleman’s Lane was blocked by Sidibe and he was clearly told to stay back to counter the openness of our left flank. Sidibe was always on the touchline and never in a wingback position. He was playing as a clear number 7.

I thought we played well today. It was not vintage. It was not free flowing. Carletto has had only a few training sessions and the players are tired. So it’s hard to make a big difference.

Let’s make no mistake about it, Burnley are a decent side. They’re not a pub team as some called them. They were 4 points above before kick off. So we had to win. We should be above these. We should be able to get back to 9th now. But we need to claw back 3 of the 4 points Newcastle are ahead of us on Saturday.

Anyway back to this game. Ancelotti changed a few things. Back was the zonal marking but it worked ok. Note the nearest man to the corner taker is now closer to the near post.

Another change is that instead of working along the back four, man by man, and trying to prove down the flanks in a slow and methodical manner that was utterly predictable, we kept cutting back inside and tried to play through the middle. This was good to see and was able to cause Burnley some problems.

I think we have seen this game many times this season under silva. Only we fail to score, get desperate to win and go too gung ho and get done on the counter, then throw all the strikers on the bench on, and lose 2-0. Carletto kept his cool and made sure the players kept their cool and we found a way to get the goal we deserved.

Good win against a team, better teams than us will fail to beat.

Mike Gaynes
215 Posted 27/12/2019 at 02:20:20
Carletto?

Too cute by half, Steve. I know it was his nickname once, but the guy is a grandfather now. Let's stick to Carlo.

Steve Brown
216 Posted 27/12/2019 at 02:22:27
Darren @ 158, spot on and you have been banging on about DCL and Holgate for years (and Stones before that). It is the mediocre, demotivated and overpaid senior pros who let this club down over the last three years.

We also have young players in Richarlison, Tom and Moise Kean, so lets show patience with them also.

Steve Ferns
217 Posted 27/12/2019 at 02:24:43
One thing missed by the TV cameras, at least on the highlights, was that after the piley on DCL after his goal, DCL kept Kean back and the pair did Kean’s “woah” goal celebration together. A nice touch from Dom that shows friendship and togetherness.

On the point about the pitch width, the piece of grass hasn’t been narrowed. It’s the same as it’s been throughout the PL era. Smith had the lines narrowed and Moyes tinkered with them year on year. It’s as wide as it can be right now.

As for changing it, you have to keep the pitch to the same dimensions all season long. Changes can only be made in pre-season otherwise you’d change your pitch for every game to frustrate or exploit the opposition frailties.

If you have flying wingers then you widen the pitch and give them room. If you’re like Burnley you’ll narrow the pitch. If you’re like Liverpool you’ll lengthen it to allow for the speed of the forwards.

Finally, any news from John, I hope his wife is recovering well in the HDU.

Steve Ferns
218 Posted 27/12/2019 at 02:40:22
Carlo on Dominic Calvert-Lewin:

“He is a fantastic striker in my opinion, strong with the head. Where he can improve and he has to improve is the movement without the ball. He has to be more focused on the goal. He is really generous so he moves up and down, left and right, he has to stay, in my opinion, more focused in the centre of the box."

He’s nailed DCL in a week. He knows how to make him better and I think he will.

Derek Knox
219 Posted 27/12/2019 at 03:28:03
Steve F, yes a decent result against Newcastle on Saturday will not only be another valuable three points, but it will show that we CAN WIN AWAY.

Winning breeds confidence too, plus fringe players will be aware of impressing Carlo, especially with the Window to open shortly.

Which again will be an interesting occasion on who we go for, who is available, and possibly who departs.

James Hill
220 Posted 27/12/2019 at 05:35:40
Win first; worry about nice football later. Results are number one, just like Carlos said. Everton 1 Burnley 0. Mission accomplished.
Derek Thomas
221 Posted 27/12/2019 at 05:36:59
Steve @ 218; this is true, when Sidibe is pinging those crosses accross the goal, DCL is moving in a straight line to the goal...as is the defender, 99 times out of 100 that's the defenders ball.
What he should be doing is, if possible, moving at an angle towards the ball...get half a toe on it and its in the net.
Laurie Hartley
222 Posted 27/12/2019 at 05:57:38
I was very nervous before the game because I felt it was so important for Carlo Ancelotti to get off to a winning start.

I am a very happy Evertonian today. At last - we have got a real one.

Jim Harrison
223 Posted 27/12/2019 at 06:41:26
Just a note to those bashing Pickford. Last 4 games, 2 conceded. League of course. That’s no form to drop a keeper on.

As for those doubting the squad. Since silva left 5th in form table, 4 games. 3 of those against “top” as the should be rated opposition. And this is a depleted squad at present.

Hopefully the corner has been turned, can get a bit of a run together, build the confidence and a bit of a head of steam.

Darren Hind
224 Posted 27/12/2019 at 06:46:04
Very interesting post, Steve F @208.

I was a guest a the recent game at Old Trafford and ended up behind the dugouts. I could hear big Dunc's voice booming out "stay center forward"

For years Successive Everton managers have asked their isolated strikers to sweat blood for the team, rendering them little more than packing mules. Lukaku simply refused, played for himself and as a result scored plenty.

Ancelotti will not have been here long, but I expect this fact was relayed to him by The big fella during their many conversations yesterday. My take on Ancelotti's measured reply when asked about his striker expending energy around the pitch, was he was saying "Fuck that for a game of soldiers"

DCL has been fantastic this season. Despite Silva's bizarre policy of dropping him whenever he scored, he is still on course to score between 15-20 goals. Then watch him go.
With the confidence which comes from scoring and a manager who wants him to concentrate on doing just that, bruised arsed Cows everywhere will be running for cover as he runs through the fields swinging his Banjo

Darren Hind
225 Posted 27/12/2019 at 06:53:37
On Holgate.

Since he was brought back into the fold he has played RB, RCB, LCB and LB. He has also given a couple of very distinguished performances in midfield.

A light house can only ever be a lighthouse. A footballer can play anywhere

Paul Tran
226 Posted 27/12/2019 at 07:02:18
Wow, who'd have thought it? Getting a centre forward to concentrate on the goal. Well done Dunc & Carlo for stating the obvious, that others couldn't/wouldn't see.

Sometimes the obvious answer is simplicity, isn't it?
It might just catch on.

Mike Gaynes
227 Posted 27/12/2019 at 07:20:10
Jim #223, and for all his failings, if you ask his critics what other keeper in the Prem they would rather have, the list gets pretty short. No keeper is infallible, as De Gea's clown acts the past two weeks have shown. I'll take Pickford over most.
Terry Farrell
228 Posted 27/12/2019 at 07:25:10
Barry you need to have a lie down in a dark room. Andy lay off Davies he is better than you give him credit for as is holgate and dcl.
Great win against stubborn opposition. Hope we mix up playing from the back with the early ball forward or better teams will press and are straight on the edge of our box if we lose possession. Carlo is god!
Jim Harrison
229 Posted 27/12/2019 at 07:37:26
Mike 227

I was going to go through a few, and in honesty I would suggest there are not many I would take over him at present.
Alisson, Edison on current form. You have to say De Gea even though he is off form. Other. Than that? Lloris has made a number of clangers. Beyond that?
Kepa is young. He’s made a fair few howlers.
I don’t really see that Leno is an improvement.
The rest? No one there I would take. Pope looks ok, nothing more
Someone will pull the Big Nev card at some point, but it’s a silly bench mark. Might as well compare DCL to Dixie Dean.

Mike Gaynes
230 Posted 27/12/2019 at 07:38:48
Off-topic but enjoyable... goal of the year in Mexico's Liga MX Apertura final tonight. The author of the golazo is one Rogelio Funes Mori, the identical twin brother of an old friend of ours.

https://www.espn.com/soccer/report?gameId=560780

Mike Gaynes
231 Posted 27/12/2019 at 07:49:54
Derek #221, and what's even more important is that DCL has also tended to wait and see where the cross is going and then attempt to adjust to it, rather than simply committing first and going balls to the wall. That's the movement Carlo was talking about it. And that's what he did against Burnley. He was in full flight even before Sidibe crossed. First time I've seen him do it with total commitment. It was great.
Danny Baily
232 Posted 27/12/2019 at 08:40:56
To think, many of us were resigned to a spell in the championship just a few weeks back. I couldn't see where we were going to pick up points, although Silva did have a habit of going on a good run of games to paper over the cracks.

We looked pretty good yesterday. If we were just a little bit more clinical in lgoal the scoreline would have been more comfortable.

Mike 227, it needs to be handled correctly but I would like to see Pickford moved on. It's a shame that Joel wasn't given the opportunity to establish himself in the side.

Jim Harrison
233 Posted 27/12/2019 at 08:56:02
Danny 232

You may have been. I actually didn’t think we would go down even if Silva stayed in charge.

It only needed a couple of results to get out of trouble and the squad was always good enough to get out of it. There was always going to be a point that Silva would have been replaced.

The tactical changes made by Fergie were hardly ground breaking, but change was required to get the bump.

I do agree that the picture looks decidedly rosier now. From Silva to Carlo? Crazy shit.

George Cumiskey
234 Posted 27/12/2019 at 09:21:14
Mike at 231 totally agree on DCL very rarely anticipates were the ball is going to be, that's his biggest drawback. Should study tapes of someone like Agulero.
Mark Murphy
235 Posted 27/12/2019 at 09:25:13
Richarlison on the other hand is beginning to anticipate DCL,s knock ons.
Hopefully Moise Kean will get a chance in there.
Mike Allison
236 Posted 27/12/2019 at 09:39:24
I’ve got up and watched MOTD this morning and they’ve lined us up as 3-5-2 and done their analysis on how the system suited the wing backs!

Looks like Carlo’s tactical flexibility is boundless.

I have to say, 3-5-2 played properly should morph into 4-4-2 as and when it suits the game as it needs to be flexible. I’ve never seen Everton do it properly before. Watching on TV, you don’t see the shape of the team, so anyone sitting in the Top Balcony will have a better view.

Steve Brown
237 Posted 27/12/2019 at 09:40:04
I think it is a bit tough to criticise DCL for not anticipating where the ball will go and making an early run. For the last three years he would have been hard pushed to have a clue where the ball would go as we had no clear pattern of play.

Now with Sidebe, DCL knows when the ball will be crossed and has a rough idea where it will go. That is why the Liverpool front three are able to capitalise on the metronome crosses of Alexander-Arnold and Robertson so frequently.

Jerome Shields
238 Posted 27/12/2019 at 09:41:08
Mike#211.

Will do, as far as Mina is concerned.

I am hopeful that the fact that the squad is relatively young , that they are still evolving. The one good thing I took from the game, was Ancelotti ability to identify strengths in players and fine tune them. I am fairly confident that he will improve the Everton weaknesses, that Silva was unable to identify or address, unfortunately. He did work very hard though.

Brent Stephens
239 Posted 27/12/2019 at 09:47:02
First game, three points. Bin those predictions about Carlo being a certain failure (ph!)- let's just wait to see how far he can take us. Very satisfied with yesterday. A slender win but oh so many subtle changes to the way we play.
Drew O'Neall
240 Posted 27/12/2019 at 09:57:28
George Cuminskey @ 234

Is that Christina Agulero? I think we’re looking for a fox in the box rather than a genie in a bottle.

Paul A Smith
241 Posted 27/12/2019 at 10:03:55
Calvert Lewin is feeling the benefits of the ball being in the air much more than it has been.

442 doing this is a myth. The lad has been running all over to win headers and looked for Digne's run and Sigurdsson in many instances after winning headers near the wide areas.

If 442 was improving him, we would see a lot more improvement on the ground. That hasn't been evident. His shooting is still poor.

I don't hold anything against the lad. He is learning his game and it was baltently obvious he would need a lot of time. His aerial ability has never been in question.

To suggest he will reach the top is as ludicrous as saying he will never play for England.
I mean, can you see him at Man City or the Shite on this form? No. That is the top.

Give the lad time to develop a ruthless streak but 2 major points of his games have to come to light, aggression and composure are where he needs to make the difference.

Jerome Shields
242 Posted 27/12/2019 at 10:03:59
Dereck#221

The golden rule for a Centre Forward is to attack the near post, getting in front of his marker, stretching the opposition defence , as you described. Other forwards attacking the Centre and far post. DCL goal was a case in point.

Throughout the Silva era this rarely happened, Opposition defenders got a free ride clearing their lines at the near post.

Our defenders where poor at defending the near post as well.

This has caused me great angst watching.

Derek you know your football.

Jerome Shields
243 Posted 27/12/2019 at 10:03:59
Dereck#221

The golden rule for a Centre Forward is to attack the near post, getting in front of his marker, stretching the opposition defence , as you described. Other forwards attacking the Centre and far post. DCL goal was a case in point.

Throughout the Silva era this rarely happened, Opposition defenders got a free ride clearing their lines at the near post.

Our defenders where poor at defending the near post as well.

This has caused me great angst watching.

Derek you know your football.

Phil Sammon
244 Posted 27/12/2019 at 10:06:03
I have no idea what people are talking about describing our formation. From the top balcony it looked a nailed on 3 at the back.

I’ve never liked anything other than 4 defenders so I wasn’t too impressed when I saw the team line up. It worked out ok but I’m still not a fan.

Sidebe and Coleman were regularly in each others way. Coleman was actually visibly frustrated and yelled a few times for Sidebe to get forward and provide an option. It was great to see Coleman go celebrate with him after his terrific cross to create the goal. Maybe I’m extrapolating too much from it but it was as if Seamus was telling him that that’s the sort of thing he should be doing all game.

Dave Williams
245 Posted 27/12/2019 at 10:11:22
Some excellent posts in support of the younger players especially from Darren Hind and Mike Gaynes.
It’s funny how Duncan seems to have had such an effect,and so quickly on two young players in DCL and Mason. The latter all of a sudden looks an England class player combining pace with a good reading of the game, comfortable on the ball and he seems much stronger in the tackle.
DCL is looking a proper CF. I have always said he reminds me of Sharp at the same age and it was Gray who made such a difference to Sharp and I wonder if history will repeat itself with Duncan honing the skills of Dom.
It will be a difficult game tomorrow but as others have said how great to have a real tactician in charge. It fills me with confidence so imagine what it must do to his players!
Jerome Shields
246 Posted 27/12/2019 at 10:37:04
Phil#244

I noticed Colman and Sidebe getting use to work with one another too. I thought the first attack where the Burnley forward got a looping header to the back post was caused by Coleman and Sidebe not working together. Coleman was watching two attackers and Sidebe arrived late.

They got it together better as the game went on.

Paul Tran
247 Posted 27/12/2019 at 10:38:25
Holgate has always been a good tackler and reader of the game. He sometimes loses concentration, which is common in a young defender - here he hasn't been helped by not being allowed a good run in the team. Give him that and he'll deliver.

DCL has always been a good 'pivot'. Talk of buying Giroud is ridiculous, as he is a slower, less mobile & industrious, more expensive version that scores less goals. I'm more concerned about the lack of goals elsewhere in the team.

Yesterday was, in many ways, perfect. Clean sheet & workmanlike against a tough team. 1-0 keeps our feet on the ground.

Once thing I've noticed down the years is that when people find themselves working with the best in their field, the sharper ones up their game, listen and absorb everything they hear. Aside from his tactical nous, I'm hoping Carlo will have this effect on the players.

Tony Abrahams
248 Posted 27/12/2019 at 10:57:21
Interesting point Steve, about it being like many of the performances under Silva, except as you say we tried to play through the middle a whole lot more?

The goal was all about the cross, and then about Lewin’s desire, but look at the great position Moise Kean takes up, and this caused the Burnley number 5, to glance over his shoulder, instead of moving forward into the space that Dominic attacked, and that’s why I’m convinced these two are going to eventually make a great partnership between themselves... Well that’s what I’m hoping for anyway! (And I never watched motd in-case they picked up on it, which I doubt very much because it’s all about the league already being won in December I’m sure!)

Conor McCourt
249 Posted 27/12/2019 at 11:02:05
Darren 225- I found it incredible how Holgate performed especially in midfield. I think the quality of his games there hasn't been given enough praise. Not only did he perform with distinction but he looked like a complete natural.

I do disagree with you about the lighthouse only being static. If it has a family it can be lifted.

Dave Abrahams
250 Posted 27/12/2019 at 11:03:38
I think DCL has always had it in him to be a very good striker and hopefully he will continue to reach this goal with the help of Ancelotti,but the player who might improve signifantly under the new manager is Richarlison, one of the most irritating and wasteful players currently at the club. How many times does he chose the wrong option, quite a few times yesterday, he appears to play with blinkers on, never sees the whole picture, shoots from a distance when there are other teammates are better placed, passes, usually to the opposition, when a shot is on. Ancelotti can hopefully improve the quality of ‘ Richie’s’ game, there is certainly plenty to work on.

I was satisfied with Everton’s win yesterday against this anti football team Burnley, lots of Everton fans warned us that we would have to be patient playing against this horrible, football wise, team, it was very good advice and we deserved the win, not great, as the new manager said, but I think lots of us feel that better days are on the way under Ancelotti, certainly many happier ones than we have had in the last few years.

Nicholas Ryan
251 Posted 27/12/2019 at 11:04:30
I've noticed an interesting thing about DCL. Fans seem to be a bit critical and somewhat lukewarm about him; yet, on MOTD, Alan Shearer and Ian Wright [and to a lesser extend, Lineker] are consistently praising and supporting him. As a striker, if Shearer and Wright think he's 'got it', then I suspect, that he has!
Mike Allison
252 Posted 27/12/2019 at 11:39:43
There’s an article here, which quotes Seamus Coleman, saying we were 3-5-2 in possession but a back 4 without.

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/beta.hitc.com/en-gb/2019/12/27/seamus-coleman-reacts-to-evertons-carlo-ancelotti-tweaking-his-p/%3famp

No wonder there’s confusion. I see it as a huge positive that in 3 days Ancelotti managed to implement such a flexible and effective system.

Colin Malone
253 Posted 27/12/2019 at 12:05:43
Great to see us keep possession for more than three seconds. Gylfi and Bernard came good. Digne still not back to his best, not as good as Baines. I was impressed with Nick Pope, the Burnley goalkeeper.
Jerome Shields
254 Posted 27/12/2019 at 12:10:22
Mike #252

It seems that both Colman and Holgate occupied right and left centre back positions moving into full back positions as Sidebe and Digne moved forward. Mina stayed at Centre Back throughout.

The midfield consisted off the trio of Delph, Sigurdsson and Bernard. Delph and Sigurdsson came deep to gather the ball. maintaining possession was a priority. They operated as a triangle with Bernard at the head, and sometimes Richarlison.

The attack was evenly spread between to two wings and centre. Early ball from the wings and midfield being the aim. The attack in the first half was based on lay offs and runners. In the second half it was based in attackers attacking the near, centre and back
post as a unit.

The big change defending set pieces was the holding of a high line. Silva defended too deep at set pieces.

Bet Ancelotti will be working on Evertons set pieces this week, particularly the ball delivered in.


Martin Nicholls
255 Posted 27/12/2019 at 12:20:02
Mike G#215 - at least Steve's "Carletto" is better than the "Carlos" that some are calling him!
Derek Knox
256 Posted 27/12/2019 at 13:31:06
Martin @ 255, wasn't Carlos the Chef in Crossroads? :-)
Jay Wood
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257 Posted 27/12/2019 at 13:37:25
On the question of formation and tactics, as I said at half-time it was primarily a back three but a very fluid one that could morph into a back four out of possession, but also enabled both Coleman and Holgate to carry the ball forward, with only Mina the out-and-out 'stay at home' defender.

Carlo said as much post-match. I thought Coleman in particular looked very good in it. The error people make with a back three is the presumption that it has to be three centre backs. Not so. Indeed, as Holgate and Coleman demonstrated yesterday, a couple of nimble players with an eye for a pass can make it a very offensive line up.

I think Sigurdson in recent games, both under Dunc and yesterday under Carlo, has debunked a myth that he is not capable of playing a deeper midfield role, whilst Bernard's performance adds weight to some TWers belief that he can be usefully deployed from midfield more centrally.

He clearly had a freer roaming role yesterday, rather than sticking wide left only, and was the most advanced of our midfielders all game. And very effective he was too.

I believe Ancelotti will quickly get the defensive side of the team up to speed. And for those opposed to zonal marking, be prepared to see it revived under Carlo. But be reassured on two things:

1) he will make a better fist of it than Silva
2) if he discovers the players at Everton really can't get to grips with zonal defending, he won't slavishly be insistent on it. He will dump it and apply something that will work

The reason I am confident that Carlo can get zonal marking right at Everton are the words of one of the all time great defenders, Fabio Cannavaro:

"What I remember the most from Ancelotti is learning zonal marking. I was accustomed to only tracking the man, but with him I learned the right movements and posture. It’s difficult to stop Carletto once he starts giving you notes!"

For anyone interested, this link has a page full of footballing greats describing what Carlo Ancelotti the coach and the man did for them:

Link

We're in very good hands with this fellah.

Eric Paul
258 Posted 27/12/2019 at 13:43:51
Shouie McPhee Derek
George Cumiskey
259 Posted 27/12/2019 at 13:53:51
Sorry Drew I meant Aguero of course, did I spell it right this time ? Lol
Paul Smith
260 Posted 27/12/2019 at 14:00:15
Makes me all emosh like. Having a proper manager at Everton. Thought we looked good yesterday; they are a stubborn well organised side, my namesake makes a good point about Richie, sometimes he's wasteful, head down and charge forward be interesting to see him under Carlo his new mentor.

Now to beat the Toon

Derek Knox
261 Posted 27/12/2019 at 14:04:34
Eric @ 258, Aye but from 74 onwards, Carlos Raphael from 64, probably about the last time I watched it! :-)
Eric Paul
262 Posted 27/12/2019 at 14:07:53
😂 I was born in 63 Derek so I’m a bit young for Carlos the chef
Brian Williams
263 Posted 27/12/2019 at 14:22:39
I'm counting down to the "he doesn't know what he's doing" and "nothings changed" comments after Ancelotti has said he won't be asking for a new striker in the January window. 🤣
Jay Wood
[BRZ]

264 Posted 27/12/2019 at 14:31:00
On the comments some make about the likes of Gabigol and Cebolinha currently plying their trade here in Brazil, I would welcome both at Everton.

Whether that is likely, possible or that Everton is remotely interested in either player, I have no idea. But both can be picked up for far from exorbitant prices by PL standards.

Last season Gabigol was not with one of the top clubs. He was with the struggling Santos who at one point were in the relegation zone. He finished the season as the league's top scorer. This year he has smashed it out of the park and would slot in a treat alongside the likes of Richarlison, DCL or an improved Moise Kean.

Flamengo's front 3 has returned the following over their near 70 game season:

Gabigol 36 goals, Bruno Henriques 26, Arrascaeta 14. 76 goals between them.

So I must take issue with Robert Tressell @ 188 who wrote about Gabigol and the Brazilian league:

"Probably in the category of scored loads in an inferior league. These sorts of strikers, as here, typically shine in the best team in the relevant inferior league. They are used to both lots of possession and lots of chances."

It's a claim often made about leagues outside of Europe that they are somehow 'inferior'.

I'll share again a link I've previously posted on TW showing a very thorough analysis of statistically the top 20 leagues in the world, using the same maths that calculates both UEFA's co-efficiency ranking for their club competitions and FIFA's world ranking system for determining the leading national teams.

Link

Now the report is dated - from 2013 - but the rankings remain pretty accurate, based on the club successes in particular in continental competitions.

1) Spain La Liga
2) England PL
3) German Bundesliga
4) Italian Serie A
5) France Ligue 1
6) Brazil Serie A

If you read the piece, given the success of Brazilian teams in both the Libertadores and the Copa Sul Americano in the intervening years, and the non-success of French clubs in their European equivalents, the CL and Europa Cup, it is highly likely Brazil's Serie A now ranks higher than France's Ligue 1.

It may also surprise many that the Brazilian league is an extremely low scoring one, as well as competitive, with multiple different title winners this century as opposed to the monopoly of the major European leagues. So for Gabigol to score the numbers he has is impressive.

If anyone has any doubts about the quality of the Brazilian League, watch a replay of the Liverpool v Flamengo World Club final from last weekend on BBC's iPlayer. I would wager that is as difficult a game that Liverpool has faced all season:

Link

I feared for Flamengo in this game. I thought the aged Raffinha and Luis Filipe at full-backs would be roasted by Liverpool's own rampaging full-backs. They weren't.

There were periods of the games Liverpool were in the ascendency. There were others that Flamengo dominated. They did over 90 minutes what only United have done this season to Liverpool: kept them goalless after 90 minutes.

In the game you can see Gabigol make Van Dijk (like, the best defender the world has ever seen, honest!) look a mug at times. Only fellow countryman Alison prevented him from scoring.

Gabigol's movement, anticipation, his technique, his ability to get a shot off quickly from any position, would be a helluva asset for any team, not just Everton. Just turned 23, he is an absolute bargain.

He is a very viable option and whilst Flamengo and their huge tribe of supporters are desperate to retain him, the player himself has stated he still has ambitions to prove himself in Europe.

Just turned 23, there is a LOT more to come from this lad.

Tom Bowers
265 Posted 27/12/2019 at 14:54:03
I think Everton have enough experienced strikers (albeit sorta average) to get the job done in the short term and that is avoid the bottom three.

Having said that there is a lot of work to be done by Carlos and Dunc. to get this squad into consistent winning unit.

January may see some comings and goings but usually at this time of the year there isn't much class available at the right price so the gaffer may hedge his bets and see what the next month brings especially if the results go well.

That was a tough game to win yesterday as Burnley are well organised so kudos to the Blues for sticking to the task.

Gavin Johnson
266 Posted 27/12/2019 at 15:09:02
Carlo, is astute enough to play a formation that plays to a teams strengths. He went from a 4-4-2 at Madrid to playing Bale, Benzami and Ronaldo in a front 3. He's picked up from where Dunc left off and is currently sticking with 2 up top. DCL will thrive with a strike partner. Whether that be Richarlison or Mouse Kean. If DCL plays as a lone striker he'll never fulfill his potential. Duncan Ferguson couldn't play as a lone striker under Moyes so Carlo needs to persist with a 4-4-2 or a 3-5-2 to get the most of the uninjured players he has available
Tony Hill
267 Posted 27/12/2019 at 15:16:17
An interesting one that, Brian @263. I assume he’ll be concentrating on midfield and maybe a central defender, if we’re getting a couple in January.

I’ve assumed he’s been promised big money in the summer but perhaps he hasn’t and he really is looking to mould a side with Brands over time.

Darren Hind
268 Posted 27/12/2019 at 15:29:53
There is a very clear difference between zonal marking in open play and zonal marking for set pieces.
If Ancelotti tries to introduce it for set plays with this group of players he is in for a nasty shock.
Mind you, I wouldnt expect him to be as daft as Siva and persevere with something that isn't working.

Conor @249

Very clever. Although I cant help feeling you missed the opportunity to go out on a "high"

Andy Crooks
269 Posted 27/12/2019 at 16:36:57
Shit, Darren, I thought Conor had slipped that one under the radar.
I think this is a really good thread with some top posts. Good stuff, Jay.
I think Carlo provides the gravitas to make any of our player look like fools if they don't get on board. He has done more than any of them ever will.
It is brilliant to see Holgate and DCL looking like potentially top, top players. It gives me a lot of pleasure to watch them develop.
I think Mr Moshiri has thrown a double six.

Paul A Smith
270 Posted 27/12/2019 at 16:46:08
Anyone read Adam Bates take on Ancellotti on the sky website today? Interesting opinion.

I think its best to keep the hype down and let a knowledgeable football man get on with his job before we judge him either way.

Barry Rathbone
271 Posted 27/12/2019 at 17:00:27
Ray@136 Thanks, mate.

My hard faced brother looked mam straight in the eye after diagnosis saying "you've always been a bit nuts, mam, so things won't change much"

As she smacked his 58yr old head she laughed "you'd better not be shoving me in a home".

The granny annexe at chez Rathbone should be finished come spring and with the clan extending to 18 in these parts she has no worries on that score.

Ajay Gopal
272 Posted 27/12/2019 at 17:34:44
Some very astute analysis here - especially Jerome Shields (208 & 254) and, of course, Steve Ferns. Thank you, gentlemen. I agree that Richarlison should improve on his awareness and composure with the ball, if Carlo can get him to do that, he could turn into a powerhouse forward for us. This is my dream for the future:

Richarlison = our Firmino
Kean = our Mane/Sterling
DCL = our Kane/Vardy/Lukaku
Siggy = our Eriksen
Davies = our Gueye
Holgate = our Van Dijk
Keane = our Terry
Mina = our Kompany
Sidibe = our Trent-Arnold
Digne = our Baines :-)
Delph = our Fernardinho
Gbamin = our Kante
Gomes = our DeBruyne

Sweet dreams are made of these :-)

Dennis Ng
273 Posted 27/12/2019 at 18:25:23
Jay @ 264 I would love to see Gabigol here even if he cost $50m. My fear against splashing out in previous years is based on the past few decades where good players of all ages come here to become pedestrian (ok, 4th-6th in EPL isn't mediocre but its not a consistent rank we achieved for the money we threw out). That history is gone now with the Don here because even if he fails, FM has shown a willingness to hire the best out there now (and available to us), not just for the field but off the field as well. Whether he come to us or some overpaying "elite" is another question of course.
Stan Schofield
274 Posted 27/12/2019 at 18:44:01
Ajay@272: Those one-to-one comparisons, or wishes, don't mean very much. How good a player looks depends on how well the team performs overall. If Alexander-Arnold had played for us he probably would not have done so well given our dysfunctionality and the problems young players face when trying to perform in dysfunctional sides. He's benefitted from playing alongside van Dij in an effective setup.

Regarding Richarlison, he's in my opinion far better than Firmino in that he's had to perform for Everton. Firmino was bang average before Klopp, but Klopp's setups have brought the best out of him because he's fitted in to them.

Players are unique individuals. The chances are that if our players thrive under Ancelotti they will do so with their own unique styles

Derek Knox
275 Posted 27/12/2019 at 19:50:02
Jay @ 264, it was me asking for info about Cebolinha and Gabigol, so thanks for that interesting comparison between the various Leagues, not a lot in it is there?

I have always fancied Everton Soares (not in that way) for us, since I first saw him, and he would have a couple of compatriots in Richie and Bernard.

I knew less about Gabigol, other than he had an unsuccessful spell, and is still owned by Inter Milan. I am pretty sure our new Italian Manager is well aware of him too. Wouldn't be beyond the bounds of reality to get the pair for less than what we sold Lukaku for, food for thought?

I have seen him a couple of times and he doesn't need to be reminded where the goal is does he? I think both, plus a bit of steel in midfield, and a quality Centre Back in the mold of Koulibaly, would, with what we have, build a decent side for years to come.

So thanks again Jay, for your useful and much appreciated low-down on the 'Boys from Brazil' haven't heard or seen Fran Mitchell much recently on here, hope he is okay! Good to get news from source (well almost) as opposed to lazy journos looking for a cheap and sensational headline.

James Power
276 Posted 27/12/2019 at 20:01:21
Can we please not start calling Ancelotti ‘The Don’ or ‘The Godfather’ or anything else so maddeningly cheesy?
Dennis Ng
277 Posted 27/12/2019 at 20:17:20
Sure James, what do you have in mind? Carl? Carlitto is old so gotta have something that's fitting.
James Power
278 Posted 27/12/2019 at 20:22:29
He has a name. We could use that. Carlo perhaps or Ancelotti.
Ray Roche
279 Posted 27/12/2019 at 20:50:45
Well, Ibrahimovic has gone to AC Milan so he’s not coming HERE!
Peter Neilson
280 Posted 27/12/2019 at 21:12:05
I agree with comments re. Richarlison I don’t think we’ve seen anything like the best of him yet. Regardless even when having a quiet game he grafts. Confirmed with him being in the top 20 tacklers in the league to date (as are Sidibe and Digne). Hoping Newcastle perform to the same standard as at United.
Brent Stephens
281 Posted 27/12/2019 at 21:14:18
Ajay #272 who am I to disagree?
Jerome Shields
282 Posted 27/12/2019 at 21:24:25
Jay#257

Thank you. A very interesting post on Ancelotti s team formation. I genuinely impressed by what his coaching has achieved in a short space of time. He has addressed weaknesses that we where giving Silva ages to sort out.

Interesting, the good impressions he has made on top players and Everton players will certainly improve under him. He can certainly read other teams and the tactics / game management where right against Burnley. He also is able to vary tactics in a game.
The contrast with Silva is the difference, between night and day.

He really must have seen something in the Everton set up to attract him to the Managers job. He is not a mercenary type.

I have now had three Chelsea fans tell me that Chelsea played their best football under Ancelotti.

Derek Knox
283 Posted 27/12/2019 at 21:27:30
Ray @ 279, Yes, I believe so, and I can't honestly say that I am upset about that. He would have been a mercenary and a sticking plaster solution, would he have been an upsetting influence in the dressing room?

I would rather see us gradually add to what we already have, and build a side for the foreseeable future, that is capable of good attractive football, and results week in week out.

Ray Roche
284 Posted 27/12/2019 at 21:40:32
Derek, I wouldn’t want him either, he’d be a disruptive influence in the dressing room.
Meanwhile, Wolves have come back from 0-2 down to lead City 3-2.
Jerome Shields
286 Posted 27/12/2019 at 21:47:33
Jay#264

I have been sceptical about players from other leagues joining Everton, given the poor player management within the Club. I also was of the opinion that a lot of suitable players, would not see Everton as a good career move as a result. Even thought the same regarding potential Managers.

Ancelotti joining Everton appears different. He seems to have joined Everton believing there is genuine potiential. Therefore players joining Everton are now in a different situation, where they could improve, under a Coach who knows how to get the best out of players.

The Brazilian League football I have watched has been of high technical quality, but also surprising very physical and competitive. The referees let the game run, more than the Premiership.

I am of no doubt we now have a Manager, who would aid the successful transient of the top players of that league to the Premiership.

Jerome Shields
287 Posted 27/12/2019 at 21:47:34
Jay#264

I have been sceptical about players from other leagues joining Everton, given the poor player management within the Club. I also was of the opinion that a lot of suitable players, would not see Everton as a good career move as a result. Even thought the same regarding potential Managers.

Ancelotti joining Everton appears different. He seems to have joined Everton believing there is genuine potiential. Therefore players joining Everton are now in a different situation, where they could improve, under a Coach who knows how to get the best out of players.

The Brazilian League football I have watched has been of high technical quality, but also surprising very physical and competitive. The referees let the game run, more than the Premiership.

I am of no doubt we now have a Manager, who would aid the successful transient of the top players of that league to the Premiership.

Conor McCourt
288 Posted 27/12/2019 at 22:15:59
Paul A-270 Yes it was an interesting piece and raised two of the concerns I had with regards to fitness and his league record in general.

However there is no point judging the man on his record good or bad in the past. It's now what counts and the positive thing we can take is that he seems to have a knack of giving a lift straight away and sorting out deficiencies.

It's my hope that even if Carlo isn't the answer he will by his pedigree have enticed a much superior player and have laid the foundations for future success.

James Power
289 Posted 27/12/2019 at 22:16:43
Paul Smith 270 do you have a link? Can’t seem to get it. Am in Italy at the moment and any Ancelloti searches send madness in return..
Tom Bowers
290 Posted 27/12/2019 at 22:24:21
Anyone see City capitulate. They and Leicester are really blowing it now.
Obviously it's now a question of who finishes second unless RS have a real bad run which is like hoping it won't rain in the next three months.

Got to be mixed emotions for Pep with a player like Sterling who missed two penalties, scored twice and then gifted the goal which got Wolves back in it. Overall some of his mistakes were inexcusable but his goals tally overshadows that failing.

Jay Harris
291 Posted 27/12/2019 at 22:50:03
Tom, Sterling and Madison both had mares over the holiday. I wonder if theyve been partying too hard and on that note I hope Pickford isn't allowed in Geordieland nor Tyne and Wear until the team bus takes them up there.
Mike Gaynes
292 Posted 27/12/2019 at 23:04:37
Extraordinary game, Tom. Bit bizarre too. Ever seen 7 extra minutes on a first half where no injury was involved?
Mike Connolly
293 Posted 27/12/2019 at 23:24:15
On the bright side of City loosing — all of our supporters will get behind us when we play them on Wednesday, for a change.
Dennis Ng
294 Posted 27/12/2019 at 23:30:01
James 278, what's wrong with a nickname or something with 1 syllable? Endears him, no?

I can't find the Adam Bates article Paul mentioned and I don't have that Italian version of Ancelotti madness here in US.

Paul 270, is that an article or some video/audio commentary? Did he ding our new hero? LOL

Tom 290, everyone in top 4 is capitulating except them. Someone must really love them. Well, and Klopp is indeed a great manager.

Simon Dalzell
295 Posted 27/12/2019 at 23:30:05
Brian #263,

Wait no longer. I've perhaps been a little too critical (not much) of Calvert-Lewis, but, he misses 3 sitters before he scores 1. Very alarming to think that Ancelotti seems to think that he could be the long-term solution.

Dennis Ng
296 Posted 27/12/2019 at 23:40:37
Simon #295,

I kinda remember my best buddy saying that about Andy Cole when he was at Man Utd.

I think missing sitters is what we fans see about our strikers all the time. Which sitter he missed pissed you the most? The ricochet from the defender near their goal line?

Mike Gaynes
297 Posted 27/12/2019 at 23:56:55
You called it, Brian #263. It took over nine hours, though. Pretty impressive show of restraint.
Brian Williams
298 Posted 28/12/2019 at 00:11:08
Simon #295. Quite a gentle point made, Simon. I still await a true TW rant about it.

Mike #297. I'm banking on a Christmas excess and not many realizing yet what Ancelotti's said, as the reason for no uproar YET!

Don Alexander
299 Posted 27/12/2019 at 00:11:10
Might I suggest to those infatuated with allegedly affectionate nicknames that we don't ever resort to terming Signor Ancelotti "Car-anc-i", albeit our current squad may soon make him feel that way.
Dennis Ng
300 Posted 28/12/2019 at 04:20:34
Don, Don, I guess I'll stick to Don then since I've no idea what word you're referring to and it has too many syllables
Derek Knox
301 Posted 28/12/2019 at 05:49:46
Dennis, I was a bit confused myself, although Shakespeare said " a rose by any other name would smell as sweet " but I think an Everton Manager was never in his thoughts on that, even less in existence.

Why call him anything but his proper name? Although a loss will certainly trigger a few names and expletives by the less patient on TW.

Although being Italian, and proud of his achievements, and quite rightly so, I couldn't imagine him being offended with " Maestro "!

Mike Gaynes
302 Posted 28/12/2019 at 06:24:20
DK, if he gets us into Europe next year I'll call him Monarcha Carlo.

The King.

Derek Knox
303 Posted 28/12/2019 at 06:32:46
Mike G, " Long live the King ". :-)
Jerome Shields
304 Posted 28/12/2019 at 07:26:44
Carlo Ancelotti deserves respect. Returning Everton to playing football, anything like we deserve, has taken years of patience on our par t.

Everton are going to have to beat our neighbours this season. I seen Lecicester and Man City totally bottle it in this past two days. We really do need to put a rent in them.

Jerome Shields
305 Posted 28/12/2019 at 07:37:08
dent.
Derek Knox
306 Posted 28/12/2019 at 07:38:15
Hear, hear, Jerome!

Most fans, after a 'true' life sentence, have, although it's early days, at least got the attention of the Parole Board! :-)

Dennis Ng
307 Posted 28/12/2019 at 07:38:20
Derek, calling him king or maestro right away is quite ahead of ourselves with just 1 game but I'm cool with Carlo. Been a fan of his for nearly 2 decades now. I'm just in the mood for 1 syllable names lately so was thinking of finding that word, if we're to remove the choice of Don. If we do win the cup, I'll can call him the king though that name won't age well when he gets that once a while bad stretch.
Dennis Ng
308 Posted 28/12/2019 at 08:03:24
They can have that title this year with everyone else choking but us having the last laugh (give them their 1 and only L for this league season) with good progress rebuilding would be the ultimate redemption for this season imo. Whoever (ahem Marcotti) is expecting them to have a Keegan styled breakdown (so Leicester and City can catch up?) probably won't be celebrating many things for the next 12 months.
James Power
309 Posted 28/12/2019 at 08:17:46
Derek - better, but he has to earn it with us. Dennis, I like a nickname for terms of endearment and apologies if I came across negative or grumpy. I’m not keen on stereotypes, regional, national or racial and aside from that I really do think The Don is massively cheesy. I am happy with his actual name and hope in the future as with now, the saying of his name fills me with the warmth which good football brings.
James Power
310 Posted 28/12/2019 at 09:42:16
Google search reveals he has a nickname. “Carletto”. So not far off your “Carlitto” Dennis, but without ganHater connotations that Carlitto brings.
James Power
311 Posted 28/12/2019 at 10:17:46
“Gangster” damn the predictive text!
Paul A Smith
312 Posted 28/12/2019 at 10:39:23
Conor and Dennis. I thought the article was basically suggesting, just because he is a name, don't expect miracles.

I believe we need to control the hype. Posters sometimes can't review a game without hype and we seen it again this weekend.

It has gone from Calvert Lewin isn't good enough, to hos supporters saying he will reach the top.

The manager knows the game well, knows stars well but we have to take everything into perspective.

Especially when the other lot seal their glory. That is going to cause some bad reactions our end.

James Power
313 Posted 28/12/2019 at 10:57:11
Just looking at his book Quiet Leadership and within the first few paragraphs he refers to Vito Corleone in the Godfather, so Dennis, Apologies! I still think The Don is cheesy but it appears he doesn’t!
Paul A Smith
314 Posted 28/12/2019 at 10:58:50
If he wins a trophy he'll be known as Carlo the Blue so I wouldn't be arsed about pet nicknames along the way.
Martin Nicholls
315 Posted 28/12/2019 at 13:11:08
Derek & Eric - you had me worried there with all that talk of Carlos the chef. I had nightmares about his underling, a Fat Spanish Waiter!

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