Fresh Everton bid expected after Zaha submits transfer request

Wednesday, 7 August, 2019 265comments  |  Jump to last
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Everton have reportedly had another enormous bid for Wilfried Zaha knocked back by Crystal Palace which has prompted the forward to officially ask for a transfer from Selhurst Park.

Sky Sports News and The Guardian's Ed Aarons, who covers the London area of the country, reported earlier today that Palace have knocked back £70m for Zaha plus James McCarthy and Cenk Tosun on a season-long loan.

That came days after the Blues, having been rebuffed with an offer of around £50m, publicly refuted claims made in the media last week that they had lodged a larger bid of £65m that included midfielder McCarthy and Tosun as part of the deal.

The Eagles are keen for the final fee to be free of part-exchange elements and want as much in cash because of the 25% sell-on fee due to Manchester United should Zaha be sold.

McCarthy is believed to be in the Capital today undergoing a medical on a £8.5m transfer to the Eagles that is expected to go through regardless of the negotiations over Zaha but Aarons said that Palace regard any deal for the Ivory Coast international as “dead”.

He also reported that Zaha is angry at his club for reneging on an agreement made last summer that they would listen to reasonable offers for him and that he is now holding out for a move to a team on the Continent. That situation appears to have changed now with the 26-year-old submitting a transfer request, presumably to push for the switch to Everton.

Paul Joyce of The Times had said that Zaha was pushing for his club to accept Everton's offer before tomorrow's transfer deadline prior to demanding a transfer.

A fresh cash bid is expected from Everton tomorrow but the deal could hinge on Palace lowering their eye-watering £100m asking price now that Zaha has played his hand and asked for a move.  


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Alan J Thompson
1 Posted 07/08/2019 at 14:49:12
Time to walk away.
Jay Harris
2 Posted 07/08/2019 at 14:52:36
Better value elsewhere.
Kieran Kinsella
3 Posted 07/08/2019 at 14:55:22
The one positive, is that we have probably unsettled various players at rival clubs e.g. Zaha, Iwobi, Docoure etc so hopefully it will start a downward spiral of morale in their dressing rooms and assure our happy campers of six points versus each opponent. To that point we should throw in a 20 quid bid for Pogba and Lukaku and tell them we will relocate to Los Angeles and exempt them from training.
Colette Black
4 Posted 07/08/2019 at 14:57:15
Overpriced - Neres would be far better value if he'd come here.
Brian Wilkinson
5 Posted 07/08/2019 at 15:00:24
This will go through tomorrow.

Just a thought, Everton have until 12.00 lunch time to register any new players to play this weekend, if we sign Zaha after 12 then he cannot play against Palace.

May be wrong but would not be suprised if Palace accept an offer after the cut off time.

Peter Warren
6 Posted 07/08/2019 at 15:00:59
Standard negotiation tactics. I expect us to get Zaha - keeping an unhappy player never a good idea and £70m plus is a lot to turn down.
Jay Wood
[BRZ]

7 Posted 07/08/2019 at 15:03:17
I always give transfer gossip a wide berth, all the more so as the window enters its final hours. I prefer to evaluate where we are with our squad once no more incomings are possible.

I keep my eye on the newsfeed though and Everton is certainly making others sit up and take notice. Here are some beaut comments on the BBC live transfer news page which made me chuckle:

"Is there any professional footballer, not being Linked with Everton FC?" - Anon

"Are Everton looking at signing the whole Premier League? Or do they not know who to sign?" - Peter

"I've got an old TV and a sofa I'm getting rid of if Everton are interested" - from Rich, Chester.

Brian Wilkinson
8 Posted 07/08/2019 at 15:04:17
Sorry above should say Thursday 12.00 deadline to register players for this weekend matches.
Jer Kiernan
9 Posted 07/08/2019 at 15:11:49
If he was a genuine target going into the window, we should have moved (or at least tried to) before they sold Wan-Bissaka.

They are now in a position to thumb their noses at us. If we don't get a winger in (Walcott is not acceptable to me, I am sorry) and a centre-back by deadline, I have to say it will defo take a "shine" off the window for me.

(Sorry... couldn't resist that un. :)

Mike Gaynes
10 Posted 07/08/2019 at 15:12:05
Hey, we tried. Moving on.
Colette Black
11 Posted 07/08/2019 at 15:13:26
Some great ones there, Jay @ 7 – especially the last one.

If you believe even half the supposed offers, we would look rather daft.

I'm thinking there is still a more coherent plan bubbling under the surface.

Mike Doyle
12 Posted 07/08/2019 at 15:17:22
Kieran, one of my colleagues (an Ipswich fan) just asked the same question. Is part of the Brands plan to unsettle a few players and rival clubs? And will we be submitting a late bid for Mo Salah?
Filipe Torres
13 Posted 07/08/2019 at 15:17:59
We've lost too much time with Crystal Palace. I'll just name a few alternatives (for the same fee) in case Marcel is reading:

Javairo Dilrosun - Hertha Berlin
Leon Bailey - Leverkusen
Steven Bergwijn - PSV Eindhoven
Ronny Lopes - AS Monaco
Mikel Oyarzabal - Real Sociedad

And not even mentioning the others already linked.

Jamie Crowley
14 Posted 07/08/2019 at 15:18:20
This may or may not still happen.

I desperately want Zaha. I think he'd completely change us from Top 6 maybe to Top 6 definitely overnight. But there's no way we should ever pay north of £60 million for him.

We had their valuation met with £60 million, Cenk, and James. It's that simple. They're playing hard ball, won't have any other suitors at that price, and never will again after this window.

Walk. Too much money.

And I've read a lot comments akin to, "It's not your money, so why do you care what we pay for a player?"

I care, and would argue everyone should care, because the financial health of a Club is arguably the most important statistic there is. If you love your Club, you certainly do not want them to overspend. Ask Leeds, Portsmouth, etc.

Anything north of £60 million, walk away.

Brent Stephens
15 Posted 07/08/2019 at 15:19:14
This has been a very good window for Everton. The ins and the outs. Very good. But Zaha at £100m would be ridiculous.
Ray Smith
16 Posted 07/08/2019 at 15:19:47
Brian 5&8

I'm with you.

If he is going to sign, it will be after 12:00 tomorrow, so he can't play on Saturday.

Annoying but makes sense from a Palace perspective.

Jamie Crowley
17 Posted 07/08/2019 at 15:24:09
Brent,

If we actually pay £100 million for Zaha, ridiculous is the only way to define that. Insanity might be another.

If Bramley-Moore Dock costs £500 million, that's 20 percent of the cost to build a new stadium.

I want Zaha. If we pay that much, I'll be pissed we did.

Rob Halligan
18 Posted 07/08/2019 at 15:25:30
Zaha hands in transfer request!
Jamie Crowley
19 Posted 07/08/2019 at 15:26:38
Rob - where'd you hear that?? That's a biggie.
Ray Smith
20 Posted 07/08/2019 at 15:27:56
Sounds promising!

But won't be registered by 12:00 tomorrow, but I can live with that, if true.

Steve Ferns
21 Posted 07/08/2019 at 15:27:59
Twitter, Jamie
John Graham
22 Posted 07/08/2019 at 15:28:23
Looks interesting.

They won't want to keep an unhappy player.

Colette Black
23 Posted 07/08/2019 at 15:28:49
Sky News, Jamie - could put the ball back in our court
Jamie Crowley
24 Posted 07/08/2019 at 15:28:58
Well, it's getting real now!


Can someone fix the "jump to last" button?

Rob Halligan
25 Posted 07/08/2019 at 15:29:17
Just been announced on SSN. He literally handed it in a few minutes ago by all accounts
Jer Kiernan
26 Posted 07/08/2019 at 15:29:56
The hope is that this is a planned assault on the Transfer market as opposed to desperation which it is starting to look like I have to be honest

Fingers crossed all ends well come 5pm tomorrow

Jamie Crowley
27 Posted 07/08/2019 at 15:31:17
I just stopped and tried to contemplate what this would mean for Everton if this actually comes off at a fair price.

It's huge. This deal, no matter what you think of Zaha as a player, is massive. It improves our squad, and we'd land a player who was coveted by a few "Top 6" clubs.

I think this might be our gatecrash deal.

This is exciting.

Michael Lynch
28 Posted 07/08/2019 at 15:31:28
Great, offer them £60m plus Niasse, take it or leave it.
Gary Mortimer
29 Posted 07/08/2019 at 15:34:40
I'd also offer Mirallas, Bolasie, Martina, Niasse, Tosun, Walcott and McCarthy to get Zaha!

Just think of all those penalties that Siggs can miss!

Richard Mason
30 Posted 07/08/2019 at 15:37:24
Once we stay clear of utd defenders, surely better CB's out there than Smalling. Loan or buy
Andrew Keatley
31 Posted 07/08/2019 at 15:37:37
I'm starting to suspect that this is all stage-managed - and that Palace, Zaha and Everton have had an agreement in place for several weeks. Total speculation, but it seems to be going through the various motions we've seen so many times before; Palace have to be seen to play hard-ball - and don't want other clubs to know they'll be shopping with pockets full of Zaha money. Wilf has reportedly not been training with the club - a red flag if ever there was one. Everton are happy for it to be drawn out - and also happy for Zaha not to be registered in time for the game v Palace at Selhurst Park (unwelcome baptism of fire). Then, with 24 hours left, the transfer request comes in. To the Palace fans it looks like they have tried to hold onto him, but their hand has been forced.

I have no information - but the sequence stands up.

Mike Gaynes
32 Posted 07/08/2019 at 15:38:18
Apparently Zaha had it from the chairman himself that they'd accept "reasonable" offers, and certainly ours was more than reasonable.

No wonder he's furious.

Charlie Dixon
33 Posted 07/08/2019 at 15:38:25
Please make this happen!

Completely agree with Jamie, this is exactly the sort of player that puts us well in the mix for the Top 6

Benjamin Dyke
34 Posted 07/08/2019 at 15:39:43
Its crazy that any football can cost that much but Zaha on his day is unplayable - I remember last season the game at Goodison where we literally only stopped him by fouling him...and he won a gazillion free kicks and was very pissed off
Mike Gaynes
35 Posted 07/08/2019 at 15:39:58
Andrew, I love a good conspiracy theory!

Steve Ferns
36 Posted 07/08/2019 at 15:40:24
Watch this space, eh?

What do we reckon we need to cough up to get him?

£60m or less;
£60 - £80m;
£80m +

Also, can Zaha get more than a light blue colour on the Toffeeweb chart, I'd downgrade Doucouré though.

William Gall
37 Posted 07/08/2019 at 15:40:49
Transfer window going exactly like most supporters thought it would go, with Everton in a race to get deals done, and clubs inflating prices to stop their players leaving with the outrage's demands, and supported by their agents..

Jamie Crowley
38 Posted 07/08/2019 at 15:40:56
Andrew -

I love, and I mean love, a good conspiracy theory.

I actually have had the exact same thought.

Palace want to keep the money, an accepted offer is in place with Everton and has been for a while, and we're going through a Broadway production so Palace can say, "We didn't have enough time in the transfer window to replace Wilfred after he handed in the transfer request."

Hmmmmm .

Sam Hoare
39 Posted 07/08/2019 at 15:41:40
Steve, £60m up front or £80m over time. Mixed feelings on this one though will certainly enjoy watching him play for us this season.
Andrew Keatley
40 Posted 07/08/2019 at 15:41:46
Mike (35) - It's silly season, and I'm feeling silly!
Winston Williamson
41 Posted 07/08/2019 at 15:41:53
It sounds like (from the various reports etc) that they have an issue selling to us because we are not deemed elite!

The morons at Sky keep banging on about it as though leaving the mighty Crystal Palace for a move to EFC is a backwards step!

I'd love for this to happen just to see the Sky moron's heads explode at the temerity and audacity of EFC signing Zaha! How dare we spend huge sums and sign a player Sky morons want to go to an elite club!!

Note: the biggest Sky moron is 'Michael Bridges' (I think), who has taken particular umbridge with us potentially signing Zaha! I'd love to see his face if we sign him! Just love it!

Jamie Crowley
42 Posted 07/08/2019 at 15:42:51
The press is going to puke. They actually have to mention that Scouse shit-pile, Everton Football Club, in the same breath as their favorites.

I absolutely fucking love this.

Steve Ferns
43 Posted 07/08/2019 at 15:42:52
Jamie, you mean a Bill Kenwright production! Is Parish going to ring his mother in the middle of negotiations sobbing, "They're trying to steal my boy!"
Dale Rose
44 Posted 07/08/2019 at 15:44:35
Jamie#17.
That is one frightening thought. Just shows what a mad world we live in.
Geoff Trenner
45 Posted 07/08/2019 at 15:46:32
If we get Zaha we’ll need Leighton on the pitch to convert all the penalties!
Phil Martin
46 Posted 07/08/2019 at 15:46:47
Now we offer £15M plus Omar Niasse. Fuck 'em in the ear!
Rob Halligan
47 Posted 07/08/2019 at 15:46:47
Obviously not big enough news for the BBC sport website to include on their site. No doubt had it been one of the so called big six teams trying to sign Zaha, it would be plastered all over their site and they'd all be creaming themselves silly.
Michael Lynch
48 Posted 07/08/2019 at 15:47:21
Seriously though, Zaha, Kean, Richarlison as our front three. You can't help but relish the thought of that. Siggi won't know which one to pass to first, assuming he's in the team of course.

Pickford
Coleman Mina Keane Digne
Gbamin Siggi Gomes
Richarlison Kean Zaha

Has to be one of our better line ups of recent years?

Jamie Crowley
49 Posted 07/08/2019 at 15:48:19
To the cost question, we'll pay over the odds.

It'll be somewhere between 60 and 80 million is my guess.

It'll be reported as 80 million, but it'll be a hogwash 80 million with 50 million down and a bunch of add-ons and what not.

That's my guess.

This is Moshri's Big Dick Moment, better known as BDM. He's swinging his "club" and letting everyone know he means business. BDM indeed.

Let's hope Zaha lives up to the price tag. I think, in the end, he will.

Steve Ferns
50 Posted 07/08/2019 at 15:50:22
BDM - Bramley Dock Moore?
Rob Halligan
51 Posted 07/08/2019 at 15:50:41
Jamie . Let's hope Zaha lives up to the price tag. I think, in the end, he will.


Jamie, I hope what you're saying is true, but we haven't signed him yet.

Kieran Kinsella
52 Posted 07/08/2019 at 15:51:05
hahaha just buy someone else. Leave the malcontent at Palace to stew to teach Steve Parish a lesson.
Andrew Keatley
53 Posted 07/08/2019 at 15:52:15
Michael (48) - If Zaha comes in then everyone on your team-sheet cost the club over €20 million...

Except Seamus. Still the best £60k ever.

Steve Ferns
54 Posted 07/08/2019 at 15:52:38
I really don't think Zaha is worth the price tag, but boy will it feel good to stick two fingers up to the rest of the league, and the "elite club's" media mouth pieces.
Jamie Crowley
55 Posted 07/08/2019 at 15:53:34
Rob @ 51 -

Up in my head, it's a done deal. ;0)

Dan Nulty
56 Posted 07/08/2019 at 15:53:53
Genuinely didn't think this was going to happen. I think they have said to Wilf, if he wants it, he needs to push the button.

Amazing.

Rob Halligan
57 Posted 07/08/2019 at 15:53:55
It seem Palace already trying to replace Zaha by bidding £23M for CSKA Moscow striker Fedor Chalov. Or is this an "as well as Zaha" or "Instead of Zaha"?
Andrew Keatley
58 Posted 07/08/2019 at 15:54:29
Jamie (49) and Steve (50) - Bramley-Moore Docks is surely his ultimate Big Dick Moment.
Lennart Hylen
59 Posted 07/08/2019 at 15:57:32
Way TOO much money for a forward who scored 10 goals in 36 games last season and was substituted and against us last season without any impact on that game. Another Bolasie!? We need a proven goalscorer who can at least score 18-20 in a season. Madness 70-80 m £ for him.
Iain Latchford
60 Posted 07/08/2019 at 15:58:04
Silva is going to be under some pressure after all this. He's being given the players, now he needs to get results.

We can't expect to be hammering teams from the off though. Will take time for everything to come together. Patience is needed.

Rob Halligan
61 Posted 07/08/2019 at 15:58:40
Of course, there's always the possibility that Palace could knock back his transfer request. Wouldn't be the first time such a thing has happened.
Josh Barber
62 Posted 07/08/2019 at 15:58:48
Ya we will definitely pay up to 80M but I'd be happy to have him and a CB if possible.

Zaha is a very good player but 80M should get you far better. I can only think "proven Premier League experience" is the difference between him and other, more promising wingers.

Geoff Trenner
63 Posted 07/08/2019 at 16:01:12
Type or paste your comment here. PLEASE capitalise initial letters of proper names and use proper grammar. No txt-speak; all-lowercase posts are likely to be deleted
Sondre Haga
64 Posted 07/08/2019 at 16:01:27
Throw in Bolasie in the deal as a loan with option to buy. Could make a differance at this point as the time to bringing in a new winger is limited for Palace. Crazy amount of money this, but I feel this can make us competitive for a top 5 finish instantly.
Graham Coldron
65 Posted 07/08/2019 at 16:01:41
Steve@54.My sentiments exactly!
Brian Williams
66 Posted 07/08/2019 at 16:01:57
Well now he's handed in a transfer request offer £60m take it or leave it.
Jerome Shields
67 Posted 07/08/2019 at 16:02:13
Zaha pushing for a transfer and having a agreement regarding a reasonable offer, has Palace now on the back foot. They don't really want Zaha disgruntled in the team.

I don't think Zaha is worth the fees being bandied about, but Everton need a finisher and for a change players really want to join for Everton.

Brands is having a big impact and a lot are now starting to take notice.

Jimmy Hogan
68 Posted 07/08/2019 at 16:02:30
Don't you mean Bumley More Dicks?
Craig Walker
69 Posted 07/08/2019 at 16:05:25
Offer them £55 million plus Tosun, Niasse and Schneiderlin. Job done.
Tom Roberts
70 Posted 07/08/2019 at 16:06:42
IF we sign Zaha I will confidently predict a minimum of 15 goals and 10 assists from him plus at least half a dozen penalties earned. Very exciting player but I cannot stand his diving antics, even if we benefit from them. I also expect a double figure amount of goals from Moise Kean. That surely would be enough to ruffle the feathers of the Big 6? I think last season was a missed opportunity with regards to Champions League qualification but in my eyes we would be looking so much stronger (on paper) this season with the addition of Zaha.
Andrew Ellams
71 Posted 07/08/2019 at 16:07:13
To be fair if we were the selling club here I'd want to receive over the odds. Its what you have to do to get proven PL quality. Let's face it, if he comes the only time the price will get mentioned is when he has a bad game. Sort of reverse to Seamus
Michael Lynch
72 Posted 07/08/2019 at 16:07:31
DCL must be proper pissed off though. And Bernard. Still, we're going to have a boss bench if this comes off!
Hugh Jenkins
73 Posted 07/08/2019 at 16:07:49
I said on another site that I thought the Iwobi bid was designed to shake both Zaha and CP into the knowledge that there were "other fish in the sea".
Seems it worked.

I wonder too if we have a bid in for a CB somewhere that is not public knowledge but that the Smalling loan is also part of the "time is running out so make your mind up" strategy?

On another note, I also think the deal might be £60M in cash + Tosun.

John Pierce
74 Posted 07/08/2019 at 16:08:48
Silva building a team to utilize VAR? The more players you have in the attacking box and stay away from your own, statistically you should get a more favorable outcomes? It’s gone full FIFA
Michael Lynch
75 Posted 07/08/2019 at 16:09:29
"80 mil 80 mil Wilfie Zaha! 80 mil 80 mil I say! 80mil 80 mil Wilfie Zaha! Playing football the Everton way!"
Jim Burns
76 Posted 07/08/2019 at 16:11:21
Walk away now Marcel - call their bluff. They won't want to be lumbered with a disgruntled Zaha until January.
Tony Shelby
77 Posted 07/08/2019 at 16:11:58
Looks like I might jizz my pants again.

I'm off to buy some 'Tena Man' just in case...

Tony Hill
78 Posted 07/08/2019 at 16:12:09
I remember Ryasantzev saying about Koeman that he took a lot of effort to get out of Southampton. It's regrettable that Ronald ever came, of course, but people like our Russian(s) just keep going till they get what they want.

There will be missteps along the way but there will be no turning back. This is the future of our club and how we will operate. This transfer window is a hugely significant shift for the club and I am not sure that its longer term, deeper implications have been picked up yet by the commentariat.

Mike Gaynes
79 Posted 07/08/2019 at 16:12:10
Brian #65, that works only if Palace believe the transfer request reduces his value, and I'm pretty sure they won't see it that way.

And given that he's signed through 2023, they could easily tell him to stick his transfer request.

Jamie Crowley
80 Posted 07/08/2019 at 16:12:59
Michael Lynch -

Competition for places will only improve everyone.

I think we are striking a good balance with quality and depth.

Kind of funny, Goffy (sp?) on TalkShite just said, “Everton are offering their whole squad and their new stadium for Wilfred Zaha.”

Yup.

Can’t stop thinking of The Shining Jack Nickolson quote, “Here’s Johnny!!”

John Pierce
81 Posted 07/08/2019 at 16:13:59
Even if we don’t get him, he certainly won’t wanna play against us Saturday.

And if that’s the case I’m deffo delaying McCarthy’s registration until after noon tomorrow.

Jamie Crowley
82 Posted 07/08/2019 at 16:14:25
Nicholson.. . ?
Dale Rose
83 Posted 07/08/2019 at 16:15:31
Late news Renault Laguna Estate. Fit nicely in the goal mouth needs TLC eight million.
Paul Hay
84 Posted 07/08/2019 at 16:15:55
Would love him to join us but not at the extortionate amount currently speculated. Can see this one being completed though.
Rather this than delighting Arsenal mates of mine here who are praying that we take Iwobi off their hands as they did when Walcott was available-a bullet to dodge it seems.

Sure that Messrs. Brands and Silva know what they are doing but I really would feel easier if the centre half position was made the priority. If there is any merit on the interest in Nathan Ake - again not at the ridiculous amount quoted this morning, then I'd be pleased. I think that he would do well for us.
Keep the faith.

Brian Williams
85 Posted 07/08/2019 at 16:16:40
Mike#79. And if that turns out to be the case mate, walk away. Send a message that we wont be fucked about any more. Never happen again then.

John Pierce
86 Posted 07/08/2019 at 16:16:47
Mike, that contract is a millstone, Palace are deffo a relegation candidate this season, this is Zaha’s best value, he only decreases from here on in. If they get relegated his value plummets and they still have monster wage to pay. That’s a very dangerous game, unless they have a clause
Keith Slinger
87 Posted 07/08/2019 at 16:17:27
Kean can take all the penalties that Zaha will get for us, his video footage shows he is not scared to take a penalty.
Paul Bernard
88 Posted 07/08/2019 at 16:19:28
Although I have been against Zaha to Everton for anything over £45m, I will accept that at least Everton see Zaha as a upgrade on Bernard. I do not understand why they would want Iwobi for example, just to warm the bench.

£70m should get you a guaranteed starter at Everton.

I would prefer we offer Lukaku another chance for £70m and then loan a centre back if zouma cannot be done. If lukaku isn't an option then go all in for zouma and a winger on loan with the option to buy.

Tony Shelby
89 Posted 07/08/2019 at 16:22:16
Dale (83) - I'll give you £6m plus my knackered Fiat Punto and the wife's Ford Ka (still got 3 months tax on it).
Paul Bernard
90 Posted 07/08/2019 at 16:23:34
Maybe someone can clarify but I don't think the McCarthy plus Tosun and cash deal is ever possible in reality.

Due to FFP, what Palace want is a cash injection which gives them more scope to increase the amount they are allowed to spend. It is a long way around a rule, but if we put £70M on paper then they give us £8M for Jimmy and £15M for Tosun on paper, this gives us more scope to do dealings.

If I am wrong, can somebody please enlighten me in the 'dumbed down' version of what I believe to be the case?

Rob Halligan
91 Posted 07/08/2019 at 16:25:13
Paul #84. Bournemouth have placed a £75M valuation on Nathan Ake. All because Man Utd paid £80M for Maguire. The world is going mad if defenders are being valued at such extortionate prices.
Tony Shelby
92 Posted 07/08/2019 at 16:27:28
Can we not get Gareth Bale on loan?!
Raymond Fox
93 Posted 07/08/2019 at 16:29:01
Fingers crossed a top 6 club doesn't come in with a bid to upset the applecart.
Mike Gaynes
94 Posted 07/08/2019 at 16:30:11
John #86, that's right from an outsider's perspective, but I doubt Palace themselves see any risk of relegation. (Honestly I don't see much either.)

Nor would they likely perceive any potential loss of value in Zaha between now and January or next July, not the way transfer fees are exploding. He might be worth 20 million more next year just by staying at the same level of play.

Pat Kelly
95 Posted 07/08/2019 at 16:33:10
Everton have now issued a statement saying his transfer request has nothing to do with them and the fact that it was on Everton headed paper is purely coincidental.
Dale Rose
96 Posted 07/08/2019 at 16:33:35
Tony.#89.
Top deal mate.
John Mckay
97 Posted 07/08/2019 at 16:34:33
Palace have made an improved offer of £23m for CSKA Moscow striker Fedor Chalov.

Sky Sports News reported on Friday that the Eagles would need to up their bid after having £14m rejected for the 21-year-old over a week ago.

Maybe Palace looking for a replacement for Zaha...?

James Marshall
98 Posted 07/08/2019 at 16:36:21
It's all smoke & mirrors I reckon - all the Iwobi stuff I mean.

We've been in the hunt for Zaha all along, never mind Iwobi. It's a smokescreen. Now he's handed in a transfer request the day before deadline day, there's a surprise!

Paul Hewitt
99 Posted 07/08/2019 at 16:39:38
Absolutely madness if we pay the 85 million palace want. I've read wages could be as high as 200k a week. Like I said, absolutely madness.
Tony Shelby
100 Posted 07/08/2019 at 16:43:44
Paul (99) - Not if we break into the top 6 or better.
John Hammond
101 Posted 07/08/2019 at 16:44:35
That transfer request might bring Arsenal in to the mix again now.
Hugh Jenkins
102 Posted 07/08/2019 at 16:45:50
Pat (95) - LOL. Nice one.
Dale Rose
103 Posted 07/08/2019 at 16:46:57
Tony.#89.
Top deal mate.
Hugh Jenkins
104 Posted 07/08/2019 at 16:47:58
John (101) - I doubt it - I think they more or less blew their whole budget on Pepe.
Paul Hewitt
105 Posted 07/08/2019 at 16:50:23
We need a CB more than anything. Go and offer Chelsea 50 million for Zouma.
James Marshall
106 Posted 07/08/2019 at 16:52:12
In other new, Julian Joachim has signed for Europa Point in Gibraltar's top flight.

Sorry, I just thought this might help take peoples minds off things for a minute.

John Mckay
107 Posted 07/08/2019 at 16:52:37
If Zaha has handed in a transfer request, I'm sure that waivers his right to compensation from crystal palace which would be a significant sum of cash in the millions.

Palace saving that money and the money on offer to them it makes the value of the bid higher.

You cant blame them for holding out it's just the same we did with lukaku, john stones ect.

I hope this deal happens. fingers crossed.

Cant wait for the window to close all the refresh on my phone for the Kean deal now this deal is seriously damaging my marriage haha!

James Marshall
108 Posted 07/08/2019 at 16:55:47
Also, I see Watford have signed Welbeck. That'll stop a few Evertonian hearts from racing.
Mike Gaynes
109 Posted 07/08/2019 at 16:55:47
I can't get any work done while this window is open.
Jamie Crowley
110 Posted 07/08/2019 at 16:56:56
Mike -

My productivity is absolute crap. I'm with ya.

Michael Lynch
111 Posted 07/08/2019 at 16:57:51
Interesting from Zaha's perspective. He's gone from saying he wants to go to a side with European football to, possibly, signing for a side which hasn't managed to achieve that. Perhaps he looks at the squad we're assembling and thinks "with the addition of me, that should be good enough to finish in the European places". It's a stretch to be honest, because I still think we'll do well to finish 7th this season. And this is potentially Zaha's last big move, so if he wants European football he needs to do it with us.

Maybe there's another team waiting in the wings with an offer?

Rob Marsh
112 Posted 07/08/2019 at 17:02:09
Zaha throws his toys out of the pram to get a transfer?

After everything Palace has done for him, they developed him into the big time, sold him to UTD, which was something he himself wanted and when it went wrong they took him back and showed him patience so he could gain his confidence back again.

He might come to us, have a good season and then throw his toys out the pram once more because Barca have blown kisses at him.

He's got no class whatsoever the way he's behaving towards Palace, he makes Lukaku look quite the gentleman.

And at the money that's being asked, no thanks.

Rob Halligan
113 Posted 07/08/2019 at 17:02:24
David Luiz to Arsenal is apparently at an advanced stage, so if this is true then we've got absolutely no chance of signing Zouma
Robert Dunleavy
114 Posted 07/08/2019 at 17:09:22
I hope we get Zaha I really do, I think it will be a big statement to stake a claim on European positions. I think VAR will have such a big impact next season as well and as one of the most fouled players in the Premier League - imagine how tricky it would be for players to go in for a tackle against him in the box knowing VAR may intervene and how many more chances he will get to shoot or create a penalty under VAR review! Could be the difference between a position or two its as big as that I feel. Obviously a lot of players of similiar ilk but stats don't lie and look around at those that state most fouled player in the league.

Is it me or is anyone else seeing how unhappy Lukaku is at United and the fact they are looking for similar money to that of Zaha - should we be thinking of intervening here? I know he left under a cloud and I was at old trafford when he scored against us and his reaction was disrespectful to the away section, but you can't deny his influence in the blue shirt and what he done for us? Not sure how the TW faithful would respond to this?!?!?

Martin Nicholls
115 Posted 07/08/2019 at 17:13:54
One thing that puzzles me is that Bolasie (and to a lesser extent, Walcott) has never been mentioned as a possible makeweight. Swap deals are less common than many think but I believe Bolasie would jump at the chance of a return to Palace.
On another note, a few have mentioned "top six challenges" - I don't believe for one mknute that Mosh would sanction this level of spending if all that M&M were offering him is an assault on the top six and the prize of a EL place. I firmly believe that they've convinced Mosh that signing Zaha would enable us to seriously challenge for top four and the prize of a CL place. With last season's top seven all having the distraction of Europran games this season this could be our big chance to gatecrash the top table.
Tony Abrahams
116 Posted 07/08/2019 at 17:16:29
Everton due money off the Lukaku sale, and United are due money off the Zaha sale.
Robert Dunleavy
117 Posted 07/08/2019 at 17:17:26
Tony #116 - Do you know what % we had agreed with United???
Jamie Crowley
118 Posted 07/08/2019 at 17:18:30
Martin I agree with you, with this caveat.

I think they've told Mosh Top 4 will happen in the next two years.

It takes time to create familiarity on the pitch between players, learn the system, settle in, etc.

Two years would be my guess. But this absolutely puts the pressure on Marco and raises the bar.

I'd honestly be surprised now if this doesn't happen.

Rob Halligan
119 Posted 07/08/2019 at 17:22:41
Tony, I believe United are to get 25% of any sell on fee for Zaha, which seems an awful lot to me. If we paid say £75M for Zaha, United get £18.75M of that fee. United give us £5M as part of the Lukaku deal, and they walk away with £13.75M. I suppose you can understand why palace value Zaha so highly, as 25% is an awful lot for a sell on fee.
Martin Nicholls
120 Posted 07/08/2019 at 17:24:23
Rob#112- ridiculous statement "the way he's behaving towards Palace, he makes Lukaku look quite the gentleman". Zaha has kept his counsel through all this and in handing in a transfer request has done absolutely nothing wrong. By contrast, your "gentleman" has failed to turn up for training and instead decided to train with the Anderlecht youth players. He's been fined by his club for his behaviour - he is trying to force a transfer but will not submit a formal request as it might hit him in the pocket. You also seem to have forgotten your "gentleman's" behaviour during his time with our Club.
Martin Nicholls
121 Posted 07/08/2019 at 17:25:46
Jamie#118 - I don't disagree!
TONY LALLY
122 Posted 07/08/2019 at 17:28:45
Really concerned that we've made no progress over the summer in getting a new quality centre back.

Despite all the welcome midfield and striker additions, it will be irresponsible to start the season with just Keane and Mina - with only Holgate and Pennington as back up.

Hope we've not just been sitting there this summer believing we could get Zouma back, and not enough effort spent in seeking other options.

Rob Halligan
123 Posted 07/08/2019 at 17:32:08
Matthew Pennington is going on loan to Hull, so we seriously need to be looking at a centre half to come in before 5pm tomorrow.
Jack Convery
124 Posted 07/08/2019 at 17:32:10
Could Chelski get Zaha and loan him back to CP under their embargo ? If they are selling Luiz to AFC they may be getting the money together to go after Zaha if they are allowed.

Its beginning to look like a stop gap CB on loan in the hope we can go and get Zouma in January after he's had a strop about not being picked with the Euros coming up next summer.

Finally Can we ask for a refund on Theo ! If Iwobi transfer happens ?

No wonder I have insomnia.

John Keating
125 Posted 07/08/2019 at 17:33:22
Must admit, personally, I think we should walk away from this.

If we have this sort of money to spend I think we should spend it on a goalscorer.

William Gall
126 Posted 07/08/2019 at 17:36:38
They better do something quick for as I stated on another thread, the only position we have strengthened from last season is Keane as a striker. The other players signed have been to replace players sold or for a player who was on loan to u.s, or for backup.We basically have the same set up as last season without Zuma.
Mike Gaynes
127 Posted 07/08/2019 at 17:38:30
Rob #113, Luiz to Arsenal absolutely shocks me. That makes Zouma and Christensen their starters on Saturday, with only Tomori in reserve.
Richard Mason
128 Posted 07/08/2019 at 17:40:34
Arsenal fans think they are gonna get zaha now by selling iwobi to us 😆
Alexander Murphy
129 Posted 07/08/2019 at 17:42:09
Just because some journo says "Everton are believed to have made a bid of £XM for Player X" doesn't mean that anyone even rometely related to the real negotiators at EFC have done any such thing.

Please, consider the above before swallowing hook-line-and-sinker the ten-a-penny approaching deadline media rumours created by journos who are sitting comfortably in the pub/winebar of their choice.

Also, consider how wisely MB & MS have traded this close season and last two windows.

Then, having measured what you hear/read against the above make a grown up "is it worth reacting ?".

Thanks.

Sam Hoare
130 Posted 07/08/2019 at 17:44:50
Just a thought but if it’s true we are pursuing Zaha AND Iwobi then I wonder if Silva/Brands think Iwobi could be converted more into a ball carrying 8 type of player? His defensive game is pretty decent and he can certainly pass well in the final third. He’s quick and strong. Perhaps Silva sees him as leftfield Doucore alternative? Could be genius the more I think about it. He’s only just 23 and clearly has an all round skill set even if he’s never excelled as a winger.

Remember you heard it here first!!

Jay Harris
131 Posted 07/08/2019 at 17:46:13
Mike thats if Tomori doesnt come on loan to us but don't forget Rudiger will be back soon and Azpilacueta can play there too.

I see Bournemouth have slapped a 75m price tag on Ake at the mere hint of an approach by us.

I just hope we don't get a Utd Reject as back up.

John Mckay
132 Posted 07/08/2019 at 17:50:43
I think they've wanted Zaha and Zouma all along.

Cant get Zouma this window, don't see the point in spending £30-40m for a backup to Mina and Keane unless its Zouma.

Just loan someone as cover and hope Mina and Keane don't get injured, or use our own reserve defenders, if they don't get a chance they can't come good.

Mike Gaynes
133 Posted 07/08/2019 at 17:53:22
Sam #130, interesting idea, given that unfortunately his "all-round skill set" doesn't include the ability to score. One goal every 600 minutes. As I said on the other thread, his finishing makes Theo look like Gerd Muller.

Maybe as an #8, where he doesn't have to shoot... hmmm.

Rob Marsh
134 Posted 07/08/2019 at 17:58:07
Martin # 120

Ridiculous?

There's nothing comical or hilarious about what I've said.

Everything I've said about Zaha at Palace is on the money, I'll bet the Palace fans agree.

Lukaku has/had no real emotional ties to EFC or ManU, I'm not suprised by his behaviour, but it's petulance more than anything.

Zaha on the other hand is biting the hand that fed him from youth, this is a special class of mercenary that Barkley also belongs to.

Martin, if you think this is ridiculous or ok, it's a free forum and you're entitled to your opinion.

Terry White
135 Posted 07/08/2019 at 18:04:52
William (#126), you need to get your "Kean(e)s" sorted out before the season starts. Unless you are seeing Michael Keane as being our new striker?
Andrew Keatley
136 Posted 07/08/2019 at 18:05:15
Strange news from Chelsea. Something tells me Luiz and Lampard are not the best of friends...
Michael Lynch
137 Posted 07/08/2019 at 18:09:14
Very strange Andrew, and something also tells me that Chelsea's place in the top 6 could be up for grabs this season
Brendan Fox
138 Posted 07/08/2019 at 18:19:06
Now Zaha has handed in a transfer request Brands should offer £50m, Niasse, a bag of Monster Munch and a Chomp and tell them if that's not good enough to do one.
Ray Roche
139 Posted 07/08/2019 at 18:19:25
Jay@131

I thought it was Leicester who had asked about Ake, not us, they earmarked him as a replacement for Maguire.

Hugh Jenkins
140 Posted 07/08/2019 at 18:21:37
Mike (109), Jamie (110) - ditto - can't wait for 5pm tomorrow - then of course, I'll be on tenterhooks waiting for 3pm Saturday.
Mark Tanton
141 Posted 07/08/2019 at 18:23:30
Jason Burt from the Telegraph is Tweeting that we can expect a big bid for Zaha tomorrow.
Frank Crewe
142 Posted 07/08/2019 at 18:24:17
25% sell on to Manu. No wonder Palace want so much for him. Sell on and buy back clauses should be outlawed. I see no reason why a selling club should still have a claim on a player years after they sold him. It either pushes up transfer fees or makes selling club sell for less than a player is worth.
Once a club sell a player that's it. He's no longer their player and they can't dictate how much his new club can sell him for.
Sam Hoare
143 Posted 07/08/2019 at 18:26:21
Mike@133, exactly, his finishing is not good enough for a winger. But it’s a lot better than Gomes’

If we bid £40m for Doucore then it seems like a physical, athletic, central midfield ball carrier could be on the cards. Iwobi might just be that man.

Mike Gaynes
144 Posted 07/08/2019 at 18:27:24
Mark #141, it'll be interesting to see how "big" is "big".

Idle thought... Silva doesn't have daughters, does he?

Mark Tanton
145 Posted 07/08/2019 at 18:28:43
Family aside, I imagine around £70-£75?
Mike Gaynes
146 Posted 07/08/2019 at 18:30:40
That oughta do it, Mark.
Jer Kiernan
147 Posted 07/08/2019 at 18:30:51
@Andrew 136
I think you are spot on regards Side Show Bob, ,I would suggest he is not the type to take orders from somebody whom he considers a peer, Lampard may well have this issue where people are under the impression he just "walked" into the Chelsea job (which he kinda did) , Dont forget respect needs to be earned

We could very much look at over taking them in Top 6 this season, Lets get this deal done and a CB and I will look forward to this season with real optomisum (been so long I have forgotten how to spell it !!)

Mark Tanton
148 Posted 07/08/2019 at 18:32:21
This is probably quite far down the road anyway and has been quietly and painfully progressing for weeks.
Jack Convery
149 Posted 07/08/2019 at 18:32:52
I'll be back when there's defo news.
Brian Williams
150 Posted 07/08/2019 at 18:36:04
Don't know if this has been mentioned but Zaha requesting a transfer COULD open the door for Arsenal to rebid, despite the fact they've bought a £72m winger already.
Be a very interesting deadline day for sure.
Mike Gaynes
151 Posted 07/08/2019 at 18:47:24
No way, Jack #149. You gotta stay here with the rest of us.
Tom Bowers
152 Posted 07/08/2019 at 18:48:54
Some rumours, some definite bids and some signings. Whatever your take on the close season one has to admit it's been interesting from an Everton fan's point of view and it may not yet be over.
Cannot see Arsenal going for Zaha now after signing Pepe.
The Gooners really need a centre back. What they have at the moment is rubbish.
Gordon Crawford
153 Posted 07/08/2019 at 18:49:40
Brian I mentioned this on the other forum, that Arsenal are supposedly back in for Zaha. Also being reported that if they sell the £55m ratted Iwobi to us then they can use that money to help pay for Zaha.
I wish we would just walk away and find someone else quickly.
Gary Mortimer
154 Posted 07/08/2019 at 18:55:57
Gordon @153.

Arsenal have been pleading poverty for years, I'd be very surprised if they shelled out over £140m for two wingers in the same window.

Jamie Crowley
155 Posted 07/08/2019 at 18:56:24
The most important news I've heard all day.

Natalie Sawyer will be on TV tomorrow with Jim White.

TY God. My favorite color, for a day, surely will be yellow.

Brian Wilkinson
156 Posted 07/08/2019 at 19:03:04
For years now we have been laughed at going for top notch players, signing Kean and Zaha will be a statement of intent.

We are now attracting big players, each one that signs makes future players think of Everton as a decent destination.

That is why signing Zaha will be a big step forward for future signings.

Sky and the media are praying we do not sign Zaha.

William Gall
157 Posted 07/08/2019 at 19:04:00
Terry #135.
I apologize for misspelling Moise Kean name ( senior moment ) but I still stand by my concern that the players we have signed, apart from Kean, are replacing or providing cover for players who have been sold or returned from loans to their own clubs. And basically we are the same formation as last season.

As for M.Keans he has scored from corners so who are we to say what he may do as,a striker

Joe McMahon
158 Posted 07/08/2019 at 19:04:32
Jamie, I don't have sky sports anymore but didn't Natalie leave over a year ago?
Martin Nicholls
159 Posted 07/08/2019 at 19:05:22
Rob#134 - quite correct, this is a free forum so I apologize for dismissing part of your post as ridiculous. My views (as clearly yours do) remain the same - I should perhaps have added in support of my views on Zaha, that he was evidently given an assurance by the Palace chairman that he would be allowed to leave if a "reasonable" offer came in. Perhaps when dealing with someone like Parrish, he should have demanded a written definition of what "reasonable" meant as I doubt it would have included "more than Maguire is sold for"!
Jamie Crowley
160 Posted 07/08/2019 at 19:10:38
Joe -

I just heard on TalkSport that she's doing the show with Jim White tomorrow. Darren and Goff or whatever their names are, said she's on TV tomorrow.

She had left TV and she does a show on TS - she's on during my afternoon here, so I listen to her a lot.

I certainly hope they were not playing and talking truthfully!

James Flynn
161 Posted 07/08/2019 at 19:11:50
In related news, "M&M’s English Toffee Peanut Won the Flavor Contest, So It Will Remain in Stores!"
Jimmy Hogan
162 Posted 07/08/2019 at 19:13:40
Sounds like it's been a frustrating day. Maybe just a few loans tomorrow? In and out.
Martin Berry
163 Posted 07/08/2019 at 19:21:25
Wilf will be ours if he has handed in a transfer request.
As for Lukaku what a bad attitude he has, paid all that money and does not turn up for work, no wonder they fined him, so glad he is someone elses problem.
Jack Convery
164 Posted 07/08/2019 at 19:27:04
I'm back - can't keep away. Please sort these deals out quickly Mr B. My nerves can't take it !!
Barry McNally
165 Posted 07/08/2019 at 19:35:35
Coutinho on loan, anyone?
Pat Kelly
166 Posted 07/08/2019 at 19:39:31
It's definitely happening now. We're preparing an enormous bid tomorrow. Moshiri's house in Monaco has just been put on eBay.
Mike Gaynes
167 Posted 07/08/2019 at 19:41:30
Seems like Rom to Inter is completed, and Spurs just bagged Giovani Lo Celso, a guy I would have loved to see come to us for that same 60 million.
Mike Gaynes
168 Posted 07/08/2019 at 19:41:52
Pat, how did your physical go?
Pat Kelly
169 Posted 07/08/2019 at 19:49:12
Mike, I'm still with the psychiatrist, I mean doctor. He says everything will be fine. Gave me a loan of his jacket. Even helped me tie the straps round the back.
Tom Roberts
170 Posted 07/08/2019 at 19:55:20
Spurs odds of signing Zaha have plummeted today on Oddschecker. Watch this space!!
Ray Said
171 Posted 07/08/2019 at 20:02:27
I don't know that much about Iwobi but on the few times I have seen him play he has looked full of energy and running, strong with a decent passing range. I could see him having all the attributes for doing a decent job in centre mid if played there.

On the CB front we could do worse than approach Barcelona for a loan deal for Umtiti- a proper solid block of a defender.

Gordon Crawford
172 Posted 07/08/2019 at 20:03:47
Why not Gareth Bale as we are getting close to his buyout. Tongue firmly in cheek when writing this.
Rob Marsh
173 Posted 07/08/2019 at 20:03:48
Martin # 159

Yep, I can see why Zaha might be pissed off, that's if promises have been broken.

It's sad though that players have the power to make these "or else" demands, this broken promise does show though that he's been "at it" for a while now. Long live player power!!!

Steve Ferns
174 Posted 07/08/2019 at 20:03:52
Watched Sky Sports News and they’re doing their best to talk up Zaha leaving for someone else! They just don’t want to give us anything do they?
Gordon Crawford
175 Posted 07/08/2019 at 20:04:34
No Steve they hate us.
Andy Crooks
176 Posted 07/08/2019 at 20:05:42
I really don't care how much Zaha costs. Why should we fret about it? Why worry if it is £90 million or £90 billion. The finances of our club are out of our control but the enjoyment of the football is why I watch Everton. I have been short changed for years so I just love every minute of this window.
When, thanks to the magnificent Abrahams family, I get to see Everton v
Watford, I hope Zaha plays and I don't care if he costs north if £100 million. That is for Mr Moshiri to worry about.
Steve Ferns
177 Posted 07/08/2019 at 20:06:43
Looks like Brands is getting rid of nearly all the surplus players too. I’m talking McCarthy, Bolasie, Besic, Niasse, Schneiderlin, and Tosun. They’re all on cusp of a transfer. So fingers crossed.
Steve Ferns
179 Posted 07/08/2019 at 20:11:58
Andy, if it’s £90bn then we’ve breached FFP and would be punished by the PL. we’d also be excluded from European football. Imagine that, we finally get CL football but get ejected for a technicality. Just look at AC Milan for this coming season.
Jamie Crowley
180 Posted 07/08/2019 at 20:12:53
Steve -

TalkSport is bigging up Arsenal like crazy to sign Zaha.

When I first came into this, I honestly, hand on heart, thought that the bias was most likely a sensitive fan base.

It's not. It's a real bias in my opinion. I hear it all the time on sat radio over here.

My emotion of anger and resentment wants me to see Everton sign Zaha even more. And I'm American! Can't imagine how much it pisses the locals off!

Paul Johnson
181 Posted 07/08/2019 at 20:15:02
Ray @ 171 Iwobi is a fine player but he is not Zaha. And he is not worth the 55 million quoted.
Steve Ferns
183 Posted 07/08/2019 at 20:16:05
Jamie, why would an american listen to that crap! I’d rather listen to the shipping forecast. If you want to stay up to date with the transfer news then listen to BBC Radio 5 Live. You won’t miss anything but the dreadful adverts, a load of shouting, and some morons on the telephone who’ve never even been the game. Some ring in and didn’t even watch on TV!
Dale Rose
184 Posted 07/08/2019 at 20:16:26
Been a bit like the baptism scene in the Godfather. All family business will be settled tomorrow.

Juventus have also taken my Renault in part of the Lukaku deal. At least he eont have to drag his fat disloyal carcass to the fifteen years box.

Mark Tanton
185 Posted 07/08/2019 at 20:19:35
Love the Godfather. Good comparison. “Morgan? Won’t see him no more.”
Ray Said
186 Posted 07/08/2019 at 20:19:51
Paul (181) . I agree he is not a Zaha type player but I posted about him having the potential to be played as a central midfielder based on what I see as some of his attributes.
Roberto Birquet
187 Posted 07/08/2019 at 20:21:11
14 J Crowley

We're reportedly already offered well north of £60 m. So your advice is walk away, no ifs, no buts

Steven Sturm
188 Posted 07/08/2019 at 20:22:13
That's good advice Steve Ferns. Problem is we are blocked from listening to BBC 5 Live over here in the states. Talksport is available, but as you said not really worth the listen. except when they stream audio for live matches.
Geoff Lambert
189 Posted 07/08/2019 at 20:22:58
Rob 112 You say " he makes Lukaku look quite the gentleman"

You are joking?


Gerry Ring
190 Posted 07/08/2019 at 20:24:43
Zaha would be a phenomenal signing, however, it would be “nice” if he wanted to come to us. The last thing we want is to break our transfer record for a guy who is luke warm & wants away again next season. I could only imagine the unsettling atmosphere it could have. Exciting talent who would make a massive difference.
Steve Ferns
191 Posted 07/08/2019 at 20:26:28
Steven, lots of Americans listen to the world football phone in. So there’s ways and means.
Jamie Crowley
192 Posted 07/08/2019 at 20:27:06
Andy Crooks @176 -

You have to care. As a fan, I'd argue you simply have to take interest on our "large" expenditures.

The last thing you want is to turn into a Leeds or Portsmouth. And if you see an expenditure that is just unjustifiable, you have to question it?

In the end it's not our money, and there's nothing you can do about it. But you surely care, and don't want to start chucking money around on a death-road to bankruptcy / administration.

For the record, I don't think Zaha hits that criteria, as Marcel has done a really good job of saving on wages and recouping some money for our "deadweight", which will go a long way to offsetting the wages and cost of a player like Zaha.

Billy Roberts
193 Posted 07/08/2019 at 20:27:26
Whatever happens at the end of play tomorrow I think Moshiri +Brands+ Silva have played a blinder this pre season.
More likely it's all about Brands but you would have to include the other 2 for identifying and financing the deals respectively.
To be faced with a near full team of players you have to get off the books would be a job alone.
To persuade the player eg. Sandro to move and a club to buy essentially damaged goods really takes some doing considering what the player is earning. Then to try and reinvent Everton to potential players is another massive achievement for Brands and co.
The Zaha transfer is the only one that appears to be going a bit messy, but come on it was not that long ago we literally couldn't bid for anyone because of lack of funds so this has to be welcomed.
I think Zaha will come and I will just have to put my fingers in my ears when the fee is anounced, I can live with that and I hope thousands of young Evertonians get some glory at last, they deserve it.
Paul Birmingham
194 Posted 07/08/2019 at 20:29:54
Mixed messages via the media and no clear translation. Is Zaha getting a cob on because he’s missed out on Arsenal or because he may miss out on going to EFC?

Showing that EFC mean business in this window and the club is looking to strengthen its position in the EPL.

Billy Bradshaw
195 Posted 07/08/2019 at 20:30:56
Yes Steve @174 I thought exactly the same about the sky sports transfer programme,the only good thing was that Danny Mills time and time again did keep bringing Everton's name up in the Zaha conversion,were as you said, Jim White and the other two at the table kept trying to push other teams names forward.
Jamie Crowley
196 Posted 07/08/2019 at 20:31:35
Roberto B @ 187 -

Sometimes, I go out with the Mrs. thinking to myself, "I'll have one drink, and then home to bed at a reasonable hour."

A few friends show up to where we go out, we end up at their house or ours, and 10 drinks later at 3 a.m. I call it a night.

Zaha, and the cost to get him, has a lot of parallels mate!

I'm blind drunk on Zaha. I don't know what my ceiling is anymore. Maybe I'll be hurting Friday morning, or maybe I'll think Thursday was one of the best days of my life. I'll letcha know soon enough, but I'm going to keep pushing it! It's too much fun.

Bobby Mallon
197 Posted 07/08/2019 at 20:32:43
I think 60 of that money should be spent in Costa
Mark Tanton
198 Posted 07/08/2019 at 20:33:44
I read earlier that Zaha has very much warmed to Everton after seeing Moise Kean sign, and watching the new stadium presentation. Apparently he has decided it’s not as grim in the north west as he thought.
Pat Kelly
199 Posted 07/08/2019 at 20:34:51
That's a lot of coffee Bobby
Jamie Crowley
200 Posted 07/08/2019 at 20:36:03
Steve -

I often listen to 606 call-in on podcast.

If I have a dollar for every time a caller started with, "I didn't see the game, but.. . . "

Frank Crewe
201 Posted 07/08/2019 at 20:37:52
I remember how Talkcrap went into meltdown when Arsenal loaned Jack Wilshire to Bournemouth. They were convinced he was the greatest midfielder on the planet and should have been going to some top Continental club instead of lowly Bournemouth. It was all Wenger's fault and he should have been sacked.
The fact is that it's a London based station so it just bigs up London clubs.
I doubt Arsenal are going to come up with another £70/80 million quid after just spending £72 million on Pepe no matter how much Talkcrap drone on about it.
Chris Gould
202 Posted 07/08/2019 at 20:39:50
Just been reading a Crystal Palace fans' forum and was surprised by how many of their fans are not only expecting Zaha to leave tomorrow, but also believe our offer of cash plus players was reasonable. Most of them harbour no ill feeling towards Zaha and feel that the chairman has forced him into handing in a transfer request. It was also nice to read a number of them stating that Everton are a step up with real prospects of European football.
They're talking replacements and even mentioned whether Bolasie could be an option? A couple spoke highly of Tosun.
I didn't read one fan who thought Zaha would or should stay, but pretty much every one of them said he was their favourite player (unsurprisingly). They speak so highly of him that they don't begrudge him pushing for the move. Granted, it was only a small sample of the fanbase, but they seem like a reasonable bunch.

I then went on an Arsenal fansite and half of them feel that Iwobi will be better than Zaha in 2-3 years time, and the other half think he'll be as bad as Walcott. Very much divided in their opinion, but the more reasonable sounding posters spoke very highly of him. The typically impatient/curt and less rational sounding posters think he's shit. An Evertonian has gatecrashed the site and it makes it all the more interesting.

Jamie Crowley
203 Posted 07/08/2019 at 20:40:49
Steve @ 183 -

Humor, not serious!

The only title I don't capitalize is red shite.

American, not american. Greatest country in the world, and Land of the Free, deserves capitalization! ;0)

Mark Brennnan
204 Posted 07/08/2019 at 20:41:03
David Luis to the arse has probably scuppered the Zouma transfer. Love the thought of Bale but expect Zaha to be having his medical in the morning
David Price
205 Posted 07/08/2019 at 20:43:25
its like christmas eve !!! I wont be able to sleep tonight,i just hope santa delivers Saha hes got everything we need power pace and a finish. Saha, kean and rickie will tear up defences

COYB

Pat Kelly
206 Posted 07/08/2019 at 20:45:01
Good insight Chris. Things must really be grim at the Palace if even a couple spoke highly of Tosun. Maybe it was his parents.
Steve Ferns
207 Posted 07/08/2019 at 20:46:21
Trust an american to be going on about Capitalisation!
Jamie Crowley
208 Posted 07/08/2019 at 20:47:16
Hahahahaha!

Too true.

Very good Steve, too funny.

Derek Knox
209 Posted 07/08/2019 at 20:47:29
This seems ludicrous to me now, let's assume he puts in a Transfer Request, they (Palace) turn it down, it's getting too late for any negotiations, is he going to be interested in playing for them again? No!

It's too late for any Arbitration by then. I believe this will go to the vinegar stroke of 16.49pm tomorrow.

Watch this space...……………… or Loony Tunes!

David Pearl
210 Posted 07/08/2019 at 20:47:34
Jamie
Michael Kenrick will be around later to add the letter u to your humor. I hope.
Neil Copeland
211 Posted 07/08/2019 at 20:47:38
Isn’t the cut off time for playing set as midday the day before a match meaning that if we sign him, Zaha could play on Saturday?
Steve Ferns
212 Posted 07/08/2019 at 20:49:45
Neil, if we sign him, there’s no chance he’s playing on Saturday. Most transfers of this type have a gentleman’s agreement on this issue.
David Pearl
213 Posted 07/08/2019 at 20:50:01
Derek you will drive yourself crazy like me. Sit back and wait. What will be will be. Are we going to make a real push for top 4. or not. I don't think l like our window closing so soon.
Neil Copeland
214 Posted 07/08/2019 at 20:52:50
Steve, yes that makes sense, thanks
Marc Sansum
215 Posted 07/08/2019 at 20:52:56
Don't know if he is a winger or not, but Palace just signed a midfielder
Billy Roberts
216 Posted 07/08/2019 at 20:58:43
If Zaha signs, would he play against Palace ??
For a number of reasons I doubt it but strangely it wouldn't be for lack of fitness or legality, it would more likely be a " gentleman's arrangement "
Do anyone know of a similar scenario?
James Marshall
217 Posted 07/08/2019 at 20:58:52
My view on this, is the only thing that can really scupper it now is Palace saying they won't sell due to not having time to find a replacement. Although that have just signed Victor Camarasa on loan with a view to buying him which could have some bearing on things.

If they sell us Zaha they could probably buy about 12 Camarasa's.

John Pierce
218 Posted 07/08/2019 at 20:58:56
What’s hilarious is 80m would pretty much buy you Palace the club. 😂😂😂
Tony Shelby
219 Posted 07/08/2019 at 20:59:16
At least we’re not sweating over Benni McCarthy!

#Progress

Mark Brennnan
220 Posted 07/08/2019 at 20:59:37
I hope Contract Dave is having an early night. He's going to be busy tomorrow - hopefully
Jerome Shields
221 Posted 07/08/2019 at 20:59:55
Mike# 127

Earlier today I came across a source that stated Luiz was of interest to Everton. There was no mention of Arsenal and Arsenal have not made any offer yet.

Tommy Surgenor
222 Posted 07/08/2019 at 21:00:01
If we get Zaha, that will be our lot and we will need to loan a CB.

I think the Esk put something on twitter about our finances and FFP earlier.

Personally, I don’t want Zaha at that price as the money remaining should be allocated to other priorities.

Jamie Crowley
223 Posted 07/08/2019 at 21:00:35
If Zaha falls through, take solace in the fact that we tried.

We have a Board in place that is intent on success. Tomorrow may or may not be a step in that direction. We may need to wait until January, or next summer, to make that impactful signing.

But they've clearly sent a message - they're not going to stop until we see success. And that's what I'll take away from this, signing Zaha or not.

Tommy Surgenor
224 Posted 07/08/2019 at 21:01:19
If we pull out of the Zaha deal, who thinks he will play against us on Saturday?

Palace will have one unhappy player on their hands.

James Marshall
225 Posted 07/08/2019 at 21:06:27
I don't get the people who are worried about us spending big on one player - we need to act like a big club to attract big players. This is the way it should be with Everton. We've spent years pissing shit money up the wall on shit players.

If you've got it, flaunt it.

Tony Shelby
226 Posted 07/08/2019 at 21:06:49
Billy (216) - I seem to recall that Tim Howard didn’t play against Man Utd in his first season with us due to a “gentleman’s agreement”.
Chris Gould
227 Posted 07/08/2019 at 21:06:58
Pat #199, just saw this post in relation to Bobby's and it made me laugh. I think I've got a bit of TDD panic and anxiety, so the humour is much appreciated.
Mike Gaynes
228 Posted 07/08/2019 at 21:08:22
Sidibe deal is done!
Geoff Lambert
229 Posted 07/08/2019 at 21:08:22
Pat! have you seen the price of a coffee and a cake in Costa?
Made me nearly spit my costa coffee out, then I remembered how much it cost and nearly choked.
Tony Shelby
230 Posted 07/08/2019 at 21:09:09
Billy, yep, here it is:

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/2312956/Manchester-United-accused-over-Howard.html

Jamie Crowley
231 Posted 07/08/2019 at 21:10:01
If you've got it, flaunt it.

Thank God my wife isn't in charge of Everton!

James Marshall
232 Posted 07/08/2019 at 21:10:36
Allez le Bleus!
Ray Smith
233 Posted 07/08/2019 at 21:11:02
Billy 216

If he’s not registered by 12.00 he can’t play for us on Saturday.

James Marshall
234 Posted 07/08/2019 at 21:12:52
There's not a chance in hell he'd make his debut away at Palace. There'd be a fucking riot in south London. I used to live not far from Selhurst Park, and whatever you think of southerners, that's Indian country (as they used to say back in the day).
Terry White
235 Posted 07/08/2019 at 21:13:08
William (#157), sadly, Michael KeanE has a head like a fifty pence piece, as my son says, and his record of scoring headers from corners is abysmal! I am certain there are going to be many a spelling and pronunciation issue before the season is long gone.
Mike Gaynes
236 Posted 07/08/2019 at 21:17:23
So Terry, you're Keen on Kean but not Keane?
Andy Crooks
237 Posted 07/08/2019 at 21:18:00
Jamie#192 I used to, honest to God, worry about our finances... then in a moment of epiphany I realised that Blue Bill didn't.
I don' t watch Saturday Night Fever at the Grand Opera House in Belfast and think, how the fuck can they afford to put this on. I just lap up the Bee gees shit, get my white suit on( elasticated waste band) and enjoy.
Today, in my work place I have people coming in and envying, yes, envying our club. When Davey Moyes took over he said, and respect to him, we would not be "crisis club Everton", any longer. Now we are in the big time and I love it.
James Marshall
238 Posted 07/08/2019 at 21:21:30
David Luiz is going to Arsenal. Phew.
Harry Hockley
239 Posted 07/08/2019 at 21:29:53
I just love the fact we’re throwing big money around now
Steve Ferns
240 Posted 07/08/2019 at 21:33:13
Danny Mills seemed quite complimentary about Everton. Now I understand why. His son is in our academy. He attends regularly. He's had meetings with Brands. No doubt some things off the record, but he'll know stuff nethertheless, certainly more than us.

Football Insider: Mills on Brands

Aidan Wade
241 Posted 07/08/2019 at 21:36:57
As with Doucouré, made a decent offer for a decent player. Better to back out and keep looking than bet the farm. This is a multiyear project and there's a stadium to finance.
Steve Ferns
242 Posted 07/08/2019 at 21:37:51
James Marshall, that kills any hope of Zouma, why are you saying phew?
Neil Copeland
243 Posted 07/08/2019 at 21:49:00
Steve, Danny Mills seems to talk a bit of sense and certainly more that any of the other SSN so called experts. He expects Zaha to come to us as do SSN in general now. Also, Danny Mills at least acknowledging that we are serious top 6 contenders.
James Marshall
244 Posted 07/08/2019 at 21:52:13
Steve - in my view Luiz is a liability, Arsenal are welcome to him. Yes he can be excellent at times, but I've never enjoyed the way he plays and I'm glad he's not coming to Everton.

I also don't think Zouma was going anywhere anyway - clearly that IS the case since they're flogging Luiz so what does it matter?

Ray Smith
245 Posted 07/08/2019 at 21:54:20
Terry 235

Not sure where you’re coming from?

What’s physical characteristics got to do with a players ability.

I’ve got a finger missing, but I don’t go around asking for a 10% discount as and when I buy gloves😇

Steve Ferns
246 Posted 07/08/2019 at 21:56:39
It matters because if Luiz was at his best, then Chelsea could have gone with him, Christiansen and Tomori until Rudiger returned from injury with Caesar as additional cover. So Zouma could have been sold. Without Luiz, Zouma is starting the first game and so is going nowhere and they won't even sell him in January is Rudiger is back and fit. Which means we can't even get someone in on loan and get Kurt in January.
Neil Copeland
247 Posted 07/08/2019 at 21:57:43
Ray #245, I am sorry to hear about your finger but your comment about 10% off made me chuckle
James Marshall
248 Posted 07/08/2019 at 21:59:25
Steve - that's fuzzy logic, and fantastical. No offence but Lampard has clearly picked Zouma as his first choice centre half, and said as much weeks ago. I don't know why the media (and people on here) were still going on about the Zouma thing. It was a dead duck ages ago.
Jamie Crowley
249 Posted 07/08/2019 at 21:59:43
Arsenal in for Luiz also means they won't re-enter the Zaha sweepstakes and cherry-pick him from us.

Glass half full.

John Pierce
250 Posted 07/08/2019 at 22:04:30
Chelsea are going to have a very energetic callow look this season. Got to capitalize on it.
Ray Smith
251 Posted 07/08/2019 at 22:06:17
Neil 247

No big deal about the finger, it was 47 years ago.
But commenting on people’s physical characteristics is of little concern to me, especially if they produce the goods.
Perhaps I could get a 10% discount on my season ticket, ha ha ha!

Christy Ring
252 Posted 07/08/2019 at 22:09:48
Sadly with Luiz gone to Arsenal, no hope of Zouma. You have to give Lampard a bit of credit, getting rid of a headless chicken, can't understand why Danny Mills thinks it's good business for Arsenal, he's a liability, and there defence will be a shambles, but Tierney is an excellent buy.
Christy Ring
253 Posted 07/08/2019 at 22:20:43
Celtic getting £25m for Tierney, and we'll worth it, surprised Lennon didn't try to sign McCarthy, as Brown is 34, and the Scottish league would be less hardship.
Tony Everan
254 Posted 07/08/2019 at 22:26:57
Now that he has handed in a transfer request Palace will want him gone.

I think this will be sealed tomorrow.

70m + Cenk Tosun looks like the deal, but there is rumour that Palace want another of our players. Who? Besic, Tom ?

David Pearl
255 Posted 07/08/2019 at 22:28:23
Christy.
Agree with McCarthy and Celtic but on his day David Luiz is class. Weird that Chelsea would let him leave, they must have high hopes for Zouma.

Perhaps Palace can offer better wages... but no CL football. I'd of gone up north if l had that choice.

John Pierce
256 Posted 07/08/2019 at 22:35:26
I bet Zouma has propper got FOMO.
Christy Ring
257 Posted 07/08/2019 at 22:37:59
David @255, Luiz has great skill but, for a solid centre-back, Zouma every time.

As for Macca, you're spot on about the wages.

Nicholas Ryan
258 Posted 07/08/2019 at 23:25:34
Tony [219] Haven't we just sold Benni McCarthy to Palace?!
John Mckay
259 Posted 07/08/2019 at 23:32:44
I wonder of JM transfer fee to CP was so low because it means when they accept a lower cash offer tomorrow itll be less cash they need to send to united.

For example.instead of them paying £10m for JM like we wanted, they paid £3m

£7m comes off the £80m they wanted bringing it down to a £73m bid which is £80m if you included the full asking price of JM.

means united get 25% of £7m less. £1.25m extra in CP pocket.

Speculation I know, would seem mad to give CP JM for £3m when they offered £8m only last week, and Newcastle supposedly bid £5m.

With CP messing us around with Zaha I'm surprised we sent JM the other way instead of gift wrapping him to Newcastle for £2m more!

It's all smokes and mirrors I think CP just trying to bleed this transfer for as much as they possible can, and I cant blame them for that. Hopeful the Zaha deal will happen tomorrow, probably after 12 so he cant be selected for the return to CP on saturday afternoon.

Terry Riley
260 Posted 08/08/2019 at 00:06:01
Walk away!
Annika Herbert
261 Posted 08/08/2019 at 04:03:04
John @259, the McCarthy fee was £8. 5M, not £3M.

But I would walk away from Zaha if Palace insist on £100M. He is good but he isn't £100M good

Drew O'Neall
262 Posted 08/08/2019 at 04:52:01
£80m? You can get 1,333 Seamus Coleman’s for that!
Simon Smith
263 Posted 08/08/2019 at 07:04:30
It’s Christmas morning. Let’s see what presents we get.
Tony Everan
264 Posted 08/08/2019 at 07:43:57
Drew #262,

92 Football League clubs x 11 players per team = 1012 players.

With 1,333 Seamus Coleman's we could have 92 clubs full of Seamus's [what's he like in goal]. There would even be some Seamus's left over to make the giant pot of half time tea.

James Newcombe
265 Posted 08/08/2019 at 09:31:02
As if it's our fault that they've agreed to a ridiculous sell-on clause.
Brian Porter
266 Posted 08/08/2019 at 09:56:50
I think it's fair to say that Man Utd paying £80 million for Harry McGuire has ruined the transfer window!
Makes Richie look like a great bargain eh?
Jerome Shields
267 Posted 09/08/2019 at 08:13:37
No fresh bid ever sent.

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