U23s score late to draw 2-2 at The Emirates

I've not used this site but they claim to be screening a live feed of this one:

https://www.sofascore.com/arsenal-u23-everton-u23/dGoseGo

There does not appear to be any live coverage on the Arsenal website. However there is this live link on YouTube: j

https://youtu.be/r17atThKq6k

Here's the team David Unsworth has selected tonight:

1. Nico Hansen
2. Kyle John
3. Matthew Foulds
4. Ryan Astley
5. Morgan Fenney (c)
6. Joe Anderson
7. Nathangelo Markelo
8. Callum Connolly
9. Anthony Gordon
10. Harry Charsley
11. Antony Evans

1-1 after 10 mins. Arsenal score early but Anthony Gordon responds with a splendid strike, he rifles a shot past the Arsenal 'keeper and into the bottom corner to level the scores.

This old boys nonsense is crazy. Out of contract, 25-year-old Charsley gets a game. And we've extended the sweetheart deals to brownnose LCC by giving the Mayor a run out as the Number 6.

Is Lewis Gibson injured?

Has David Unsworth any player or players ready for the 1st team? Otherwise, I don't see the need for the Under-23s. Former Under-23s have left the club for inferior ones. This happens usually season after season. So, are the Under-23s being prepared for other clubs as soon as they do their stint?

That's a searing challenge to the whole ethos of the club structure, Steavey.

In the good old days when they were actually the Reserves, there was a more obvious purpose and supply line. But now they operate and train as separate teams, with minimal (effectively zero) interchange occurring. So your daft assertion can't be easily refuted.

They have almost zero visibility, they are watched by a cohort of what? 200 or 300 dedicated denizens of Southport? So there's really a minimal following at best.

They sell off the odd player for money now and again, but I can't see it as making the operation self-financing. So perhpas you're right. It's been slim pickings since Rooney came through. So let's just can the lot of them.

I'm sure that players coming through the academy including Rooney, have saved the club from administration during the dark days of having a skint owner, so maybe what Steavey and Michael say now makes sense?

I'd give Brands a bit more time on the academy and also the team just below the first team, but I've never had much confidence in the organisations that run things in this country, and have always felt that doing away with the old competitive nature of the central league was always a backward step.

I was reading Silva was trying to get a competitive friendly to get his new players up to speed, which says everything.

Moshiri could have a friend buy Bury, or Bolton. Loan the U23s to them so they get proper football. Problem solved for all (well - impossible, I know.)

Steavey - we need the U23's, to keep David Unsworth in a well paid job.

Administration my arse! Lack of foresight and imagination.

Michael #8 I think there are valid reasons for having separate training for U23s in that their coaching needs as individuals are so different, eg, 17-year-old Ryan Astley's training will be different from Michael Keane's. We do move up our promising youngsters to train with the first team, this week I saw that Gordon was involved and I'm sure he's getting great experience from it.

Steavey 7, Michael 8,

I see a significant change coming with the Under-23s. Check out these remarks from Unsworth.

“It's nothing to do with me, I don't get involved in that,” he replied when asked if senior players like Connolly were disappointed not to earn a Championship loan in the summer. “The players are there at my disposal and whatever players are left we always pick the strongest team we can."

Compare that to a few years ago with the Under-23 "budget" and bringing in Bowler, Gibson etc for millions to bolster the Championship winning Under-23s. Now Unsie has the "players that are left." I think the key thing is that the club are trying to revive the old academy as something that produces real talents as opposed to something designed to win the PL2 with no first-team impact.

The team this season has a lot of 17- and 18-year-olds. That is the model used by Man City and Chelsea who actually produce real talents. It is a departure from our model of recent years which involved lots of 22-year-olds and a healthy smattering of older pros, eg, Niasse.

Tony (9), yes Jeffers, Ball, Dunne and Rodwell, there’s a around £30M for starters.

There is nothing wrong scouting for players for the Under 23s not quite ready for the 1st team. Then a monthly report given by Unsworth to Silva about players nearing selection for the 1st team squad. Because all I can see at the moment is players being just picked for the Under-23s and finally moving out on loan or permanent deals somewhere else.

Tom Davies is the last player to make the step up from the Under-23s to the 1st team 3½ years ago. One player from the Under-23s to the Everton 1st team squad every season should be the target.

Adiniran, Gibson & Gordon are training with the 1st. team. So I presume you are not seeing Adiniran & Gibson is because they are being reserved as cover for the 1st. team.

I wonder if Adeniran might get a start against Lincoln if he has a good week in training.

Stevey, surely you know by now that the Brands Everton favour is 'anything but British and requiring an outlay of at least £20M.' Even if they are 19 years of age!

Sheer fecking genius our 'men at the top'. Or thought to be so in these columns where 'worship' would be an understatement!

Derek, the problem I see with the Everton under 23s is about attitude. There are enough young players in the north of England to provide Everton under 23s with enough players with potential to break through into the 1st team squad if scouts are looking around for the right talent. Basically, if a young player can control a ball and pass a ball with the same ability as an Everton 1st team player he has a future.

Derek 19 - I questioned the same thing during the transfer window and routinely got told that “it doesn’t matter what nationality they are as long as we win”. Trouble is, the more expensive foreign talent we buy, the less heart and desire the team seem to have and the more abject displays like the last 3 we seem to have.

I personally would rather take the last 3 results with a team that roused some passion rather than what we’ve seen so far.

Interesting that Adeniran and Gibson both not being involved in this game with the upcoming game v Lincoln.

I doubt either will start, but if they could get on the bench they may get themselves 10 minutes which would be a huge boost for all the other u23 lads.

Also does anyone who regularly see our u23s think Gordon is close to the first team ?

Steavey (20) So anyone who can control and pass a ball with the same ability as an Everton first team player has a future? Based on the Villa shambles that will provide hope to millions of kids. Stevie Wonder could pick out passes better than what we had on display last week.

Si, Anthony Gordon is an exciting player. Only 18 but really looks one for the future. I'd say that given the players currently available in the first team, it might be some time before he'd be able to compete with them. But already one of the the best forwards (if not the best) in the U23s.

Brent? Which ones? Walcott? Bernard? the currently out of form Richarlison? I think Gordon should be put on the bench ahead of some of these so called PL players. Look at the impact Sancho has had at 18, that young lad a Arsenal, and some others. Maybe some youthful enthusiasm is what the team needs right now.

Fran, I see your point, mate. I just don't see Silva putting Anthony ahead of those players (especially Walcott - he's brilliant! ok, maybe not - another one struggling with a banjo).

I don’t see them regular enough, but have seen them enough to have an opinion, that’s all it is though, an opinion.

I wouldn’t risk any of them to start, Anthony Gordon is very good with passing, dribbling, shooting, free kicks, but to me, he is a lot like Dowell, as good as he looks he goes missing from the game too often, doesn’t appear to relish the rough stuff, maybe he can change that and garnish a bit of hardness to his undoubted ability.

Aden Iran is a big strong lad with good control and can make a telling pass, but I wouldn’t risk him against Lincoln because it will be a good strong boy against big strong men, out to make a name for themselves against a big team, and on TV as well.

Lewis Gibson is the one I’d pick to make the first team soonest, than any of the others, strong lad who seems to understand winning is the most important thing, good footballer, good in the air, still growing and wouldn’t be over awed by playing in the first eleven, still a risk at this stage of his career, so I’d leave him for now to study and watch from the bench, especially the two centre backs.

If we are winning 3-0 with twenty minutes to go, then put on or two of them on for some experience,but this team winning 3-0 against anyone, at the moment, is a massive IF.

Dave, nice post. What's your view on Feeney. I've been a big admirer of the Feeney - Gibson axis in the centre of the U23 defence and have usually seen Feeney as the slightly better of the two. Do you think Gibson has now jumped ahead of Feeney or was he always better in your mind? Or is it his left foot?!

Brent (28), I can understand that you prefer Feeney of the two, he takes no prisoners, he also is a winner,urges his team mates on, if not vocally, by his actions, a bit like Dave Watson. Gibson for me has that extra bit of class, the left foot is secondary to his ability, as to whether he has jumped ahead of Feeney, I think he has in the coaches eyes, he seems to have been training with the first team quite a bit, according to reports, to be honest you might know a bit more than me regarding that.

Thanks, Dave.

"you might know a bit more than me regarding that".

No, I know very little, Dave. Only what I see on the pitch. If just one of the two makes it, I'll be very pleased.

So now with Gabamin out for 8 weeks, who steps up ( or is put on the bench) if Sneids gets injured or gets a red in a game?
Surely they should be playing the same sort of system as the 1st team so if there are any injuries/suspensions then someone can step into that position.

Has anyone got a link for tonight’s U 23’s match with Southampton tonight?

Youtube Davei believe

Tried it Brent, but it is not available, well to me it’s not available but I’m really dense when it comes to getting games via Utube, rely on my grandsons, but they are also unavailable.!!!

Brent it’s not getting shown anywhere, Saints will show high lights later on tonight, it’s 0-0 after 16 minutes, Gordon had a chance early on but failed.

Getting my information from a lad who usually can see the game but he’s had no luck with game.

Anthony Gordon mossed sitter. Switched it to right foot instead of shooting with left. Nor one down.

Good save from Evans just now.

Dave type evertonfc in Youtube search line

Two down. Error by Feeney.

Anthony Gordon cracking goal.

And he now wins a penalty.

And converts it.

Thanks for that news Brent, I tried what you suggested, noluck, my densitity is getting denser, I’ll rely on you tonight for any further news, that really shows how thick I am !!!

Offside third goal Evans.

Whistle goes for Half time lemon. Not you Dave!

Not sure but think Feeney it might have been who lost his man for first goal. Sloppy back pass from him for second goal conceded. Two from Anthony Gordon incl penalty. He’s looking so sharp as ever. Kyle John at LB also showing a lot. Adeniran and Benny their usual strong showings.
Charsley looks off the pace.

Now don’t start Brent !!!just keep the news up, seen the goals on another thread, neat one for Gordon’s first and a smart penalty, that’s three in a week for the kid.

I’m so excited by Gordon. 18 years old Petes sake! If he develops further...!

Penalty for us

Gordon hits post.

Evans close with free kick. And Foulds close off corner

Cracking save from Charsley strike

Sounds just like the first team so far. Go undeservedly 2 goals down wake up bring it back to 2-2, miss a penalty, almost score again and so on. I just hope the lads keep the pressure up and get the win.

Adeniran shot deflected wide Foulds scores from corner.

Brent, was Marcelo’s miss from the penalty rebound a bad one?, looks like we are getting on top there. Has Anthony Gordon filled out since last season?

Foulds folds and almost gifts one.

Charsley scores from sloppy back pass

Sort if related to this thread. Shane Lavery scored for Linfield last night as they went of the Europa League on the away goals rule. I think he will have a decent career.

Andy, didn’t he score one or two in the first leg, one of them was a cracker going by reports.

Close again after good run from John

Denny scores

4-2, at last some reward for all the pressure.

Looks like we're really going for it second half.

He did indeed, Dave. By the way, you and June have a wonderful holiday. You deserve it.

Mampala on for Charsley

Well taken goal by Evans on the break.

Simms and Iversen

Brent (66) have they made it 8-2 or just come on?

Feeney goal from cracking Manpala cross

Manpala goal from cracking Evans cross

Andy (63)Thank you.

We could win this yet

Seen all the goals up to Foulds, looks like Southampton have stopped showing them since, but give them credit, the game is at Southport and Everton are not showing it but Southampton hundreds of miles away are. Tells you a lot about Everton, aren’t we part of the COMMUNITY.

I think that’s 8-2!

All over

Dave just seen your question about Anthony Gordon. No he's as skinny as ever.

Dave, one final point about Anthony Gordon. As you said somewhere above, he doesn't seem to fancy the rough stuff. Glad to say that at least tonight he really got in the mix and took a few heavy knocks but still came back fighting.

Brent (76), yes wish I could have seen tonight’s game, haven’t seen him this year, just flashes, I believe what you say, that pleases me, makes his game more complete, if he keeps it up could be on the bench before the season is out.

Why I asked I’d he had beefed up was because fans, on another thread said he had muscled up, looks like he has toughened up, that will do me instead, a bit like Roy Vernon, thin as a rake but a mean bastard with it, lovely !!

If he’s as good as Royston, that’ll do me.