Lincoln City vs Everton

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Everton are in Carabao Cup action this evening as they travel to League One Lincoln City looking to redeem themselves somewhat for Friday's dispiriting defeat at Aston Villa.

The Blues lost 2-0 to the newly-promoted Villains, ending their unbeaten start to the season and conceding their first goals of the Premier League campaign in the process.

The loss and the performance that underpinned it has reopened a number of questions relating to personnel, formations and the form of some of the team's most important players. And while the answers are unlikely to come in the League Cup against lower-league opposition, merely skirting a potential banana skin and booking a place in the next round of a competition in which Everton simply have to do well this season will provide a fillip for the preparations to the home fixture against Wolves this coming weekend.

As is always the case at this stage of what is so often deemed to be the least important of the domestic competitions, most of the initial focus will be on Everton's line-up, one that is so often mixed up to give more fringe players an outing.

In this case, however, while it wouldn't be a surprise to see Jonas Lössl make his debut in goal, the anticipated attacking changes would be ones designed to hand minutes to some of the new signings who haven't yet made their first starts. Alex Iwobi, so close to being the saviour of a point on Friday, and Moise Kean could both make their full debuts after impressing of the bench while Djibril Sidibé is an option at right back.

In midfield, where injuries to Jean-Philippe Gbamin and Fabian Delph have reduced the depth of available options this month, Tom Davies will be champing at the bit to press his claims given how poorly André Gomes, in particular, performed at Villa Park. Then there are players like Leighton Baines, Mason Holgate and Cenk Tosun who have either not figured at all so far or who have played very few minutes who will also be pushing to play a part.

Silva wasn't giving too much away in his pre-match press conference yesterday but he did say that he would be respecting the opponents and the competition and not rotating his squad “for rotation's sake,” which will come as welcome news to Evertonians who might otherwise be steeling themselves for the inevitable justification from the manager about it being a squad game and that everyone he picks is good enough to represent Everton.

Whether that will be an argument this time around remains to be seen but Silva hinted that Delph could be fit to play and, of course, his assertion that he will pick the best IX to win the match wouldn't preclude a number of changes given that he could justifiably say on the evidence of the first three games that introducing Delph, Iwobi and Kean could indeed improve the side.

Lincoln, seventh in their division coming into the match, caused Everton a number of problems when the two clubs met at Goodison Park in the FA Cup in January, particularly in the air, and they could look to unsettle the Blues in the same way this time around.

Silva's men have, of course, resolved much of the issues around their marking and defence of set-pieces and aerial balls in the months since that meeting with the Imps and the debacle at Millwall in the subsequent round.

It will by no means be an easy game, particularly given Everton's possibly bruised psyche but, obviously, if they play to their potential, they should win and progress to the next round.

Kick-off: 7.45pm, Wednesday 28 August, 201(
Last Time: Lincoln City 3 - 4 Everton (League Cup Second Round, First Leg, September 1993)

Predicted Line-up: Lössl, Coleman, Keane, Mina, Baines, Schneiderlin, Delph, Bernard, Iwobi, Richarlison, Kean

 

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Jamie Crowley
1 Posted 28/08/2019 at 06:38:08
BRING ON THE SUBS!

Lössl
Sidibe Holgate That Young Stud Baines
Davies Delph
Iwobi Sigurdsson (undroppable) Walcott
Tosun

Bench - because we'll be losing 1-0 at 55 minutes and Silva will hit the "OH SHIT" button - Gomes, Bernard, Calvert-Lewin, Kean, Mina, Pickford, Richarlison... Insert another good player.

Swear to God if we lose this I'll go postal.

For USA people, the game is only via ESPN + stream.


Jamie Crowley
2 Posted 28/08/2019 at 06:42:16
My only other point.

What in the holy hell is that Lincoln City logo? Looks like clip art of an imp gone terribly wrong.

Is that not the worst looking team logo / mascot / whatever the fuck that thing is, thing you've ever seen?

No wonder they're in league 47! Shite! Bush-league marketing. My 22 year old in art school could do better than that on a bender with his eyes closed!

Niall Hughes
3 Posted 28/08/2019 at 06:43:21
I got the feeling from Silva's comments that he will definitely be making a fair few changes, although half of those are probably due to form as opposed to resting players. Iwobi, Kean deserve a start, Davies deserves a chance to stake his claim after our midfields showing at Villa and you probably give Delph some time off the bench for some fitness. Holgate is all but certain to start I'd say and Lossl might still be injured.

I'd go with - Pickford, Sidibe, Holgate, Keane, Baines, Davies, Schneiderlin, Iwobi, Bernard, Richarlison, Kean.

Lev Vellene
4 Posted 28/08/2019 at 06:47:27
The original it is based on actually looks a lot like that, Jamie. I just had to wiki it.

From Wikipedia: The Lincoln Imp is a grotesque on a wall inside Lincoln Cathedral, England, and it has become the symbol of the city of Lincoln.

Lincoln City currently sport a "traditional" Lincoln Imp badge, a crest synonymous with the success of the 70s and 80s. The badge was returned in 2014, with general manager John Vickers billing it the start of a "new era".

Lev Vellene
5 Posted 28/08/2019 at 06:56:52
Silva deftly formed his statement so that "the best XI" could easily mean 7 changes like the last time around, if those changes mean he thinks they are good enough to win the match... I'll not be able to relax until I see the actual team sheet!
Jim Bennings
6 Posted 28/08/2019 at 07:09:36
Whatever team he picks, if we lose this tonight then we are bolloxed!

This represents something different for the fans rather than the now predictable mundanity of another expected 8th or 9th place Premier League campaign.

How most of us would love a Cup Semi Final at Goodison under the floodlights on the first week of January.

This has to be won, preferably handsomely like Aston Villa last night at Crewe, we need to start learning to find the back of the net in away games and start realising that away games are actually available to be won.

Don’t let us down.

Bill Gienapp
7 Posted 28/08/2019 at 07:16:40
Everyone's lining up to pillory Silva if this goes sideways, but I doubt anyone on here can come close to agreeing on what our optimal lineup would even look like.

Normally starting players such as Baines, Sidibe and Delph would be a no-brainer, but are they match sharp?

Do you start Holgate? I'd worry about overworking Mina so early in the season.

Starting Kean certainly seems logical, though Calvert-Lewin has traditionally feasted in these early League Cup matches (a brace against Rotherham last season and a brace against Sunderland the year before).

Starting Richarlison would be a sign of intent... only no one seems to think Richarlison is playing well.

Mike Gaynes
8 Posted 28/08/2019 at 07:25:22
Duke #1...

"Swear to God if we lose this I'll go postal."

You mean as opposed to your demeanor after Friday?

How will we know the difference?

Sam Hoare
9 Posted 28/08/2019 at 07:27:25
In terms of resting:

Gomes - was clearly not fit for Villa having not played all week. We need him at 100% against Wolves and moving forwards.

Mina- Has has injury issues recently and we can really not afford a long term injury to him.

Richarlison- Had mumps this summer and a very long year last year with Copa America. He looks a touch jaded.

Coleman/Digne- Silva expects a huge amount of work up and down by his full backs and both have high level replacements.

Pickford
Sidibe Keane Holgate Baines
Delph Schneiderlin Davies
Iwobi Calvert-Lewin Kean

Hopefully bring Iwobi and Delph off when winning as it’s their first starts and I’d like them both in starting XI on Sunday.

I might have been tempted to give Anthony Gordon a start but he played for the U23s last night (and scored an absolute cracker).

John Hammond
10 Posted 28/08/2019 at 07:28:33
I'd make minimum changes.

Pickford Coleman Keane Mina Digne Schneiderlin Delph (If fit) Iwobi Bernard DCL Kean. Iwobi at no 10, DCL on the right.

Interesting article on The Athletic about Richarlison and how he's too hard on himself hence the constant sulks and how Silva isn't happy that his English isn't progessing. You'd think by now he'd have mastered the language much better.

Mike Gaynes
11 Posted 28/08/2019 at 07:38:12
Sam #9, must disagree with two of your points.

Mina hasn't had any injuries "recently"... he's been healthy since last spring and played four full games this summer with Colombia, plus our friendlies and three league games now with no problems. He's fine.

And Gomes didn't look the least bit unfit on Friday. Even late in the second half he was showing acceleration, gliding through the Villa defense on the dribble and getting to the top of the arc at will. He was just making timid, stupid decisions once he got there. like not shooting and making idiot passes instead. IMO his poor play had nothing to do with any physical fitness issues.

John #10, can you post a link to that article?

Jack Convery
12 Posted 28/08/2019 at 07:47:10
I would keep the defence the same until the score is a good one for us – then give Sidibe and Holgate a run-out. In midfield, whoever is the long term Gueye replacement must be given time to gel with the back 4. I suspect or is that fear that this is Schneiderlin. Davies and Delph if he is fit. Left Iwobi, Centre Kean and right Walcott. Give Richy Gomes and Siggy a rest on the bench. Bernard can cover for Iwobi after an hour.

So: Pickford, Coleman, Keane, Mina, Digne, Schneiderlin, Delph, Davies, Iwobi, Kean, Walcott.
Subs Lossl, Sidibe, Holgate, Bernard, Sigurdsson, Richarlison, Calvert-Lewin.

Lose this and the feel-good factor from the summer signings will truly be over.

Ian Bennett
13 Posted 28/08/2019 at 07:50:18
A win and a good performance please.

We are playing Wolves who are up against Torino on Thursday in the Europa League, so not being able to handle two games a week when the top 6 do this regularly won't was.

Pickford, Iwobi, Kean have to start.

Trevor Peers
14 Posted 28/08/2019 at 08:11:28
A predicted team without DCL wow. If it happens it's the first sign Silva has come to his senses. We need to start scoring regularly, starting tonight.

I hope we go with that front three and Tosun on the bench, he should of been replaced in the summer as a matter of urgency but it never happened, he will have a part to play untill January at least.

We should win easily, there will be a huge inquest if we fail to beat Lincoln.

Eddie Dunn
15 Posted 28/08/2019 at 08:14:56
Stick with DCL but give him Iwobi or Kean to work with. Then he might find his scoring boots and develop a partnership that we can take forward into the PL fixtures.

This could be an opportunity to get the show back on the road, or it could be a huge blow if we pass on this chance to win something.

Derek Knox
16 Posted 28/08/2019 at 08:18:58
Ian, agree about Wolves having a demanding game against Torino, but they are at home for that, so no travelling. I watched the first game and the scoreline didn't tell the full story, although it's what counts at the end of the day. Having said that it won't be a foregone conclusion, and they will have their work cut out.

I just hope we take our game seriously against the Imps and put out a decent side, they will already have a whiff of blood, after our performances with them from last time, and our poor showing against Villa.

Terry McLavey
17 Posted 28/08/2019 at 08:30:21
Jamie #2 The Lincoln Imp is a gargoyle type grotesque in Lincoln Cathedral. If your interested (and I'm sure your'e not :)) here's some info.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lincoln_Imp
John Keating
18 Posted 28/08/2019 at 08:31:42
I can't believe Silva will not change his formation / tactics for the mighty Lincoln City.

I'd go 4-4-2 against them. Davies sitting deep and Richie, Iwobi and Bernard interchanging

A couple of deserving youngsters on the bench:

Pickford
Coleman Holgate Keane Digne
Richarlison Davies Iwobi Bernard
Kean Calvert-Lewin

Stephen Brown
19 Posted 28/08/2019 at 08:48:26
A variety of changes advocated by most posters on here!

Surely 11 players picked from our handsomely paid squad should be able to win this match! If not then the mentality and ability of these players is simply not at the required standard!

I’m hopeful rather than confident I’m afraid to say!

For what it’s worth I’d go:

Pickford
Sidebe, Keane, Mina, Baines
Davies, Gomes
Richarlison, Iwobi, Bernard
Kean

James Fletcher
20 Posted 28/08/2019 at 08:55:13
I like the look of that team Stephen
Derek Knox
21 Posted 28/08/2019 at 08:58:11
John K, there is a report from the red Echo saying Silva will NOT be influenced by pressure to field the strongest side, as he will be mindful of injuries to players prior to the Wolves game.

As you know he is very stubborn, bordering on arrogant with his attitude towards these Cup games, I really don't think he knows or realises that we as fans are desperate for a Trophy, and this one, for the sake of 7 or 8 games, is not only a passage into Europe (not the best way I know) but that elusive piece of Silver, which we have NEVER WON.

I wouldn't mind betting we don't even have any Brasso, Dura-Glit, or Goddard's on site either, there has been no call for it, so come on you Muppet Silva, smell the coffee and this Cup Tie.

Jim Bennings
22 Posted 28/08/2019 at 08:59:04
I wonder what the ToffeeWeb posts would have been like if it had been around in the early 90’s.

So many people patient with the likes of DCL, I wonder if they would have been the same ones who would have said “stick with Stuart Barlow” or “play Preki here or here” and “give Brett Angel longer”.

Would have been interesting reading back in the day.

Peter Mills
23 Posted 28/08/2019 at 09:09:51
I was at Lincoln’s at MK Dons last week, and had a chat with one of their Board members and a senior member of staff. The whole club is very excited about this match, and the presence of the Sky cameras - they badly want to put on a display and get a win.

They are an ambitious club, managed by Danny and Nicky Cowley, who have a great record of promotions and Cup runs.

Lincoln lost the game 2-1, but were unfortunate to do so. They played mostly in a 4411 system, with all the play coming through their number 10, a small lad named Jack Payne who is a very good player. He will need watching, it could be worth man-marking him, he is so instrumental to their game.

They played the ball wide a lot to their wingers, particularly Number 26, Harry Anderson. Their centre forward is Tyler Walker, who has inherited a few speed genes from his dad, the great Des of Notts Forest. He took his goal well.

The fullbacks push up, which leaves gaps which Everton can exploit, particularly down their right hand side. The two centre backs hang back, which again leaves space.

Lincoln play decent football but are not afraid to mix it up, their centre half hitting the bar with a last-second header at the back post, something to look out for.

Lincoln won their first 4 games, then have lost two. This could be a difficult evening for us, we need to be up for it, because they will be.

Charles Brewer
24 Posted 28/08/2019 at 09:12:12
Sam, I'm sure you are correct but Richarlison had MUMPS this summer? What are we doing taking on players who haven't had immunisation against diseases which exist only in war zones and amongst the children of terminally stupid women on Mumsnet.

What next? Digne gets polio and turns out in an iron lung? Pickford gets leprosy and one of his arms comes off doing a brilliant save? Sigurdsson gets scrofula and has to go and get touched by the Queen? Schneiderlin eats some ergot-infested bread and wanders around randomly seeing things that aren't there and generally not being involved in the action (OK, that may explain things)? The rest of the team get Fournier's gangrene and all have gigantically inflamed testicles?

I have noticed that Everton footballers are always getting weird diseases and having time off. I travel on trains into London and on the tube on most days, so I share rebreathed air in close proximity to inhabitants of most of the countries on the planet, and I am almost never ill, as are my family and colleagues.

Does anyone actually think or plan for normal risks at Goodison?

Dave Abrahams
25 Posted 28/08/2019 at 09:19:51
Charles(24), just count your blessings !!! Your thoughts have really brightened my day up.
Derek Knox
26 Posted 28/08/2019 at 09:31:44
Peter Mills, thanks for your report on what to expect from them later, I bet Silva doesn't read it unfortunately. You mentioned Tyler Walker, didn't realise he was the son of Des, a player I always admired and wished that we had him, back in the day.

Let's also hope that Jack Payne is not a pain in the neck come the final whistle.

Charles, like your humorous post on the various afflictions which could affect our players, mind you the one regarding Schneiderlin is eerily accurate to what he does/doesn't do now.

Mike Allison
27 Posted 28/08/2019 at 09:34:41
Jim, Calvert-Lewin is miles better than those players. Why does he get singled out? So many players play worse than him but several regular posters seem obsessed. He was one of better players against Villa whilst the ‘class act’ Gomes was absolutely awful. Richarlison and Sigurdsson didn’t create anything for him and Coleman didn’t look up to speed. Even Digne wasn’t great. That’s without mentioning Schneiderlin.

The patience is down to be fact that he’s clearly a very talented player. He’s strong, quick, good in the air, has a nice touch and is able to hold the ball up and link play well, often whilst isolated and having to wait for teammates to get within 30 yards of him. Everyone accepts that he should be scoring more (including him) but he’s still a young player and is in the middle of his first ever proper run in the team, one in which we’ve been successful.

Many Blues don’t want to see talented young players jettisoned because of the impatience and entitlement of our apparently least knowledgeable fans.

Clive Rogers
28 Posted 28/08/2019 at 09:35:51
Can Sidibe play right flank instead of Richarlie I wonder. Is he an attacking RB does anyone know?
Eddie Dunn
29 Posted 28/08/2019 at 09:38:20
Charles, surely Schniederlin simply has crabs - hence his sideways tendency.
Tony Everan
30 Posted 28/08/2019 at 09:39:14
Charles #24, you paint a sordid picture.

I have visions of the players in the changing room.

Long, dirty, greying hair. Swollen, pussing buboids like filthy volcanoes on their faces. Warted puny legs in a state of gangrene decay, ready to fall off and fly into the upper Gwladys when taking the next corner kick.

Anyway, it will make some of the PL referees feel at home.

Derek Knox
31 Posted 28/08/2019 at 09:44:58
Clive, from what I read about him when I learnt that we were about to sign him, he is considered to be better going forward than he is at defending, but having said that he is not a shoddy defender by any means, and has some versatility too by all accounts.

When all said and done he was in the French National Team (World Cup Winners) not so long ago.

Steve Croston
32 Posted 28/08/2019 at 09:52:57
For me it's really fucking simple. Pick the best XI and go for it. Nobody merits a rest yet and this game could help play people back into form.
If he picks a weakened team, we will lose, simple as that. History has taught us so, so many times but we never seem to heed the warning signs. We are jinxed in this competition for sure and I really wouldn't be surprised if we lose tonight, but I sincerely hope not. COYB.
Fran Mitchell
33 Posted 28/08/2019 at 09:54:32
I'd go with a front 3 of Iwobi DCL Kean

A midfield of Davies Adeniran Gomes

Defense of Sibide Mina Gibson Digne

Pickford in goal

Steve Croston
34 Posted 28/08/2019 at 10:00:52
Fran, Adeniran played for the u23s last night so I doubt he'll play, although I'm not so sure he's in Silva's plans anyway.
Dave Williams
35 Posted 28/08/2019 at 10:21:04
Pickford
Sidibe Mina Keane Baines
Davies Gomes Iwobi
Richi DCL Kean

Gomes to sit in front of the back four. DCL to start to see if he can blend with Kean and score against lower league to give him some confidence. Delph to get 25 minutes at the end if he is fit enough.
The squad is strong if everyone plays to their potential and if we don’t win regardless of who he selects it will be a very poor show.
They had nothing back in January apart from physical presence hence why I would leave Holgate on the bench and have Keane and Mina to deal with their big lads.

Sam Hoare
36 Posted 28/08/2019 at 10:21:17
Mike@11, is it my imagination or did Mina not miss a pre-season game with injury?

And Gomes did not train all last week with injury. He looked pretty knackered to me when El Ghazi breezed past him to score. Not sure it’s worth aggravating his injury.

John Hammond
37 Posted 28/08/2019 at 10:23:03
Mike Gaynes: It's behind a paywall but you can get the gist of the article: https://theathletic.co.uk/1158827/2019/08/24/sulky-Richarlison-must-find-self-control-and-improve-his-english-to-adapt-and-thrive-for-everton/
Rob Halligan
38 Posted 28/08/2019 at 10:30:54
Derek, # 26. Silva may well not read the mini report from Peter, but he will almost certainly have had scouts at the game Peter refers too, to establish how Lincoln line up, and how they play etc.

At least I hope he had scouts there!

Danny Baily
39 Posted 28/08/2019 at 10:32:13
Will be a great atmosphere tonight. I live locally so am a regular at Sincil Bank, the hardcore fans (who call themselves the 617 Squadron) in the top corner of the big stand next to the away end will be well up for this.

Sat with the home fans for this one so will have to keep quiet, no doubt Silva and co will help me out on that front!

Derek Knox
41 Posted 28/08/2019 at 10:39:59
Rob, I appreciate what you're saying there, but he can't have 'scouted' Villa very well, if he did at all!
John Hammond
43 Posted 28/08/2019 at 10:53:47
Dave #35: Gomes isn't the man to protect the back 4. He's made 2 tackles and zero interceptions in 3 games. Contrast that to Schneiderlin who made the most tackles (5) of anyone on the pitch and 1 interception. He's not the most popular but at the moment he's the best DM currently available for selection.
Martin Berry
44 Posted 28/08/2019 at 11:02:18
I hope Tom Davies gets a run out tonight as his energy will be important.
Would also like to see Bernard given the no 10 role tonight, that could be his best position pulling the strings and creating chances.
Kenn Crawford
45 Posted 28/08/2019 at 11:08:29
We lose this then Silva should be sacked sorry if it’s negative but give me one good reason this man stays
Len Hawkins
46 Posted 28/08/2019 at 11:09:57
Sam #9 Richarlison must find it hard running after the mumps with his jowells swiping him round the head like spaniels ears.
Lee Jamieson
47 Posted 28/08/2019 at 11:10:21
I will be honest I would ring the changes for this game. Gylfi, Richarlison and Gomes should be left on the bench as they have been well out of form. I would go 433 and really go at them. My team would be Pickford, Coleman, Mina, Keane and Baines at the back. Delph, Davies and one of kids maybe Bengimi. Front three of Iwobi Kean and Bernard
Kevin Prytherch
48 Posted 28/08/2019 at 11:16:54
What about Stekelenburg, Martina, Mirallas, Niasse and Tosun - alongside Schneiderlin and Walcott. We could field the most expensive misfits we have!!

It’s just a shame we don’t have Besic, Garbutt and Sandro to play alongside them!!

Derek Knox
49 Posted 28/08/2019 at 11:24:13
Kenn, you're not the only one who has reservations about Silva, but if we lose this tonight, I can imagine TW tomorrow not to mention the national Newspapers will have a field day.
Fran Mitchell
50 Posted 28/08/2019 at 11:29:31
Fact is, we will, like in most games, control 60-70% of the possession. We should stream-roll them, 5-0, but the way we are currently playing suggests we will probably struggle to break them down.

Davies has to play in the middle, none of our other midfielders have done anything to suggest Davies doesn't deserve a chance. He would come in for Siggy for me, as this way we can move to a 4-3-3. If none of the younger centre mids are available, and with Delph still unfit, I guess that means continuing with Schneiderlin and Gomes - yet as a combo, just not working.

I want us to play with no6 and 2 no8 midfielders - high energy.

I wonder, I can't remember - where are the likes of Callum Connolly? Really wish we hadn't sold Joe Williams.

Maybe, with this lack of central midfielders, 4-4-2 is the way to go

Iwobi - Davies - Schneiderlin - Walcott (i know, I know - but out an out winger, him or Bolasie)

DCL and Kean up front.

Dave Williams
51 Posted 28/08/2019 at 11:32:49
Fair comment John #43- Ibjust don’t like Morgan but maybe he should take that role. Gomes seems to tackle from behind the player and I was thinking he would be better played deeper so he was facing them.
Trevor Peers
52 Posted 28/08/2019 at 11:48:36
This game is becoming crucial for Silva, either he comes up with the right attacking formation and we win or he tries to be conservative, finds we can't score and risks humiliation.

The stakes couldn't be higher, lose and it could be the beginning of the end for Silva.

Rob Marsh
53 Posted 28/08/2019 at 11:57:41
I really do hope Silva is taking this competition seriously, over the years we've watched so many teams in the final that we could have beaten had we been there.

Birmingham, Swansea, Bradford, Villa, Southampton, Cardiff and Sunderland have recently been to the final, how hard can it be?

There's a case for putting more into this cup than the FA cup.

Conor McCourt
54 Posted 28/08/2019 at 12:01:01
I would go with- Lossl
Martina Sidibe Holgate Baines
Delph Davies Iwobi
Bernard Kean Walcott
Eddie Dunn
55 Posted 28/08/2019 at 12:27:05
Rob @53, the thing is that the club know that finishing 8th with no silverware guarantees their income for next season and winning the League Cup brings in paltry rewards. It is many a year since we had a good tilt at it..i think we had a semi v Man city and prior to that one against Chelsea when Lescott was out-jumped by little Wright-Phillips.
I recent years we have played weakened teams who have been exposed by lower opponents and tonight will go the same way if we don't put out a strong side.
Francis van Lierop
56 Posted 28/08/2019 at 12:30:02
I'm Dutch, but I was born in England. In Boston Lincolnshire to be precise, and have lived in a village to the north of fit for 14 years.
Lincolnshire is a sparsely inhabited county, that's why it's never had football cllubs with any repute.
Since I was a small boy, Lincoln, Grimsby & Sc**thorpe were always in the lower two divisions, ans it's hardly changed.
Lincoln were even in the 5th tier when the Cowley brothers took over. They've done a good job, getting them promted twice.
Lincoln even won their first three matches in League One, before losing their last two. Hierin lies hope.

I am however an Everton fan.
Changes must made after the debacle at Villa Park.
Especially in the pedestrian, and non-performing midfield.
Alex Iwobi was the best player when he came on, he and Moise Kean must start.
Hopefully Delph can start, and let's see what Tom Davies' energy can bring.

Tony Williams
57 Posted 28/08/2019 at 12:34:11
Can I watch it anywhere, need a link if anyone can oblige. Ta ever so.
Phil (Kelsall) Roberts
58 Posted 28/08/2019 at 12:37:30
It shows the level at which football is played and the how there are few at the really top level.

So many of us are fearful that a team from League One are likely to be more than a match for a Premiership team who are fielding a "number of their back ups"

To express it as a mathematical formula it would probably be
Quality of players x familiarity of playing with other team members x desire to win = Performance

How many of the Lincoln players would we be happy to be on the bench on Sunday afternoon when Wolves come to visit? Stekelenburg, Holgate, Sidibe, Davies, Iwobi, Walcott and Kean are your choices to be replaced by any of the Lincoln players. I think the answer is zero. How many would replace not just players on our bench but starting last week's game. Again the answer is zero. And I am sure that Norwich and Palace are saying the same about replacing their players with those from Cawley and Colchester.

So if they won it would have to come down to the other two factors compensating for their shortfall in the first.

If we are lower in the second then why? What happens when we get an injury to a regular? Do they not all practice games together? Do we take 3-4 games for the team to recover from the loss of a player? What on earth is the benefit of squad rotation if it means we preform less well each week?

And then the third, which is probably the biggest. And at that point it is the headshaking depressing thought that a bunch of highly paid, skilled professionals just do not have the passion and desire to win at all costs and to show the manager that they should not be on the bench but in the team.

So if tomorrow we have our normal result, do not blame the manager but point the finger at the players who let their superior skill and abilities be overwhelmed by the passion and desire of the opposition and ask them to look in the mirror and ask themselves when they are leaving our club.

Phil (Kelsall) Roberts
59 Posted 28/08/2019 at 12:37:30
It shows the level at which football is played and the how there are few at the really top level.

So many of us are fearful that a team from League One are likely to be more than a match for a Premiership team who are fielding a "number of their back ups"

To express it as a mathematical formula it would probably be
Quality of players x familiarity of playing with other team members x desire to win = Performance

How many of the Lincoln players would we be happy to be on the bench on Sunday afternoon when Wolves come to visit? Stekelenburg, Holgate, Sidibe, Davies, Iwobi, Walcott and Kean are your choices to be replaced by any of the Lincoln players. I think the answer is zero. How many would replace not just players on our bench but starting last week's game. Again the answer is zero. And I am sure that Norwich and Palace are saying the same about replacing their players with those from Cawley and Colchester.

So if they won it would have to come down to the other two factors compensating for their shortfall in the first.

If we are lower in the second then why? What happens when we get an injury to a regular? Do they not all practice games together? Do we take 3-4 games for the team to recover from the loss of a player? What on earth is the benefit of squad rotation if it means we preform less well each week?

And then the third, which is probably the biggest. And at that point it is the headshaking depressing thought that a bunch of highly paid, skilled professionals just do not have the passion and desire to win at all costs and to show the manager that they should not be on the bench but in the team.

So if tomorrow we have our normal result, do not blame the manager but point the finger at the players who let their superior skill and abilities be overwhelmed by the passion and desire of the opposition and ask them to look in the mirror and ask themselves when they are leaving our club.

Steavey Buckley
60 Posted 28/08/2019 at 12:48:32
It is a good time to play someone from the Everton under 23s. For too long there has been a disconnect between the Everton 1st team and the Everton X1, because there is no point of having a second team if there are no opportunities to progress to the 1st team.
Ray Roche
61 Posted 28/08/2019 at 12:48:55
Conor @54

Thank God you’re not picking the team. Not sure I’d trust you picking a nose.
Martina? Holgate? Sidibe and Baines?
A back four that’s never played together and two haven’t played AT ALL, in a Cup we’d like to win? Christ on a bike!

Derek Taylor
62 Posted 28/08/2019 at 12:49:21
Whatever team he puts out, it should be more than capable of seeing off tonight's oponents. Patience may be required as we usually have to wait for the opening goal against such inferior opposition.

I imagine Silva will want to see most of his new signings in action as well as 'the lightly raced' Davies.

Taking a form line through Aston Villa's destruction of Crewe last night, I'll be looking for a 3-0 victory for the Blues. At least.

James Marshall
63 Posted 28/08/2019 at 12:54:58
I wouldn't be surprised if it was 0-0 given our paucity in front of goal. Lincoln to win it on penalties.

People going on about us scoring freely and winning to nil, where do you dream this stuff up from? We couldn't score in a brothel pre-season or in the 3 league games we've played. We've scored one goal, from a deflection.

If I wasn't teetotal I'd have some of whatever you're drinking!

Derek Taylor
65 Posted 28/08/2019 at 13:01:05
Meant to add that I regard this competition as a total irrelevance over which we could hardly get excited even if we got to the final stages. Progress tonight will hardly excite us and to see us involved deep into the season will militate against attaining the top half Premier Leauge place which has become our norm.

This is the League Cup and so entry should be restricted to League teams.

Conor McCourt
66 Posted 28/08/2019 at 13:01:20
Ray I think it's good enough to get the job done. We have two fit senior centre backs at the club and I don't want them being risked in cup games. If they get an injury like Gbamin can you imagine the response? With Gbamin now out he could have also covered there.

Whatever you think of Martina and Baines now they are experienced players who should have enough nous for Lincoln. Sidibe and Holgate is obviously risky but that's the hand that the manager has been left and I just feel they would offer more experience than Gibson.

I left Coleman out as I'm not sure you want him playing three games in a week.

Tony Hill
67 Posted 28/08/2019 at 13:01:39
If he picks Iwobi and Kean then I think we'll win comfortably. Crucial also will be the form and fitness to be built up by Delph, assuming he plays.
David Pearl
68 Posted 28/08/2019 at 13:02:26
Urgh this site is painful reading sometimes. hope and expect Iwobi, Kean and Walcott to start up front. Either or DCL in the hole.

Delph should start but not sure with who. And Baines and Sidibe. I wouldn't change the centre backs.

However, whoever starts l hope (but don't expect) that we wait till they cross the white line and start playing before laying into them.

Alan McGuffog
69 Posted 28/08/2019 at 13:05:06
Are there no replays at this stage? I'd been hoping that we would keep it really tight, frustrate them and hopefully get them back to Fortress Goodison and scrape by. Ah well. We shall be able to concentrate on breaking into the top four after tonight.
David Pearl
70 Posted 28/08/2019 at 13:05:46
Urgh
Ray Roche
71 Posted 28/08/2019 at 13:15:01
Conor@66

Conor, tonight's game is our most important game this season, in one respect. More important than Wolves on Sunday or Villa last Saturday. We have zero chance of finishing top 4, and the way we've started and the (already) dropped points mean that top 6 is also a pipe dream. This Cup competition is our best chance of a trophy this season, consequently, we should field a side as strong as if we WERE playing Wolves.

Kean and Iwobi to start, Delph if he's fit, Mina and Keane. Ok, I'd be happy to play World Cup winner Sidibe and Baines on the other side, that is not significantly weakening the side, but we must take it seriously, no revisiting nightmares like Shrewsbury or Tranmere, Wigan etc. Shove as many goals past Lincoln as we can manage. Defeat or a draw is not an option.

Tony Abrahams
72 Posted 28/08/2019 at 13:15:13
Jim Bennings makes me smile when he talks about things being interesting. I don't know what's more predictable on T/W, than Jim slagging DCL, and the patience of the people who back him?

Maybe Don giving it to Kenwright, or myself doing the same to Schneiderlin? but one thing I know which is certain, is that if we are to win a cup then we need a united fan-base, and this is what worries me the most.

Conor McCourt
73 Posted 28/08/2019 at 13:31:20
Ray, Martinez got to two semi-finals and the club was in revolt. I agree that the cups are important but I feel it's less about personnel and more about mindset.

If we field our strongest eleven there they will end up with one eye on the Wolves game. Tonight's game is about application and those with a point to prove may offer more.

If we can match Lincoln's desire we will go through, if we don't the personnel is irrelevant.

David Pearl
74 Posted 28/08/2019 at 13:44:02
Ray
We played Villa on Friday night, not Saturday. It may however of been Saturday that you finished drinking.

I agree Conor, it is about mindset. We need to play those hungry players but without disrupting the defensive base so much. We could make a few changes tonight but actually improve the team for it.

Neil Copeland
75 Posted 28/08/2019 at 13:45:10
I have my ticket for tonight so just hoping that whoever plays actually turns up. Really, really hoping for a decent cup run and this competition represents our best chance of silverware. I thought Silvia got it wrong against Southampton last season and I was well pissed off as a result. Surely, whoever plays will be too strong for Lincoln
Steve Ferns
76 Posted 28/08/2019 at 13:49:16
For Jamie: The Lincoln Imp

I would play the following:

Pickford
Sidibe Kean (c) Holgate Baines
Schniederlin
Delph Davies
Walcott Kean Iwobi

I'd play Virginia but he's busy for Reading u23s and Stekelenburg is about to join Real Madrid (!!). Pickford should play anyway.

Sidibe needs a game, whereas Coleman needs a rest. I'd rest Keane rather than Mina and Holgate needs a game. I'd play Digne only he's had a knock and so should be rested and Baines could do with a run-out if fit.

Midfield, id like to see a 433 enacted. Rest Sigurdsson and Gomes who are both off form. Davies needs a game, I hope Delph is ready, and let Schneiderlin steady the ship behind them.

Richarlison is off form and needs a rest or just dropping, Bernard was not at the races against Villa, so I'd give Walcott and Iwobi a game. Kean comes in for Calvert-Lewin, who needs taking out the firing line and giving 15 minutes off the bench against tired legs.

It might be a few too many changes for some of you, but most of this side would expect to play at least half the games this season. Most of the guys I dropped where either gassed or out of form. Save them for a massive game against Wolves, and give others the chance to take their place with a good performance.

Raymond Fox
77 Posted 28/08/2019 at 13:51:04
Whoever we pick to play in this game, we will be man for man superior players. That does not guarantee we will be the superior team on the night though, they have home advantage and probably are a settled side used to each others play. They also have nothing to lose and are will be geed up to go full throttle at us.

Kean and Iwobi have to picked, I'd give Davies a game too and maybe Sidibe, after that it depends how seriously you take this comp.

Score 0-2 or 3, I hope...

Christy Ring
78 Posted 28/08/2019 at 13:52:38
Delph needs game time tonight, and play Davies beside him. My big concern is at Centreback, I'd play Holgate and give Gibson a chance to show what he can do, because we can't risk Mina or Keane.
Steve Ferns
79 Posted 28/08/2019 at 13:54:55
Christy, playing Gibson would be a big risk. I'd rather take a chance on Keane. Keane can communicate better with Holgate than Mina can. That will be crucial to Holgate's development. Keane is also a lot more confident than this time last year and so should take better charge of Holgate than he did last year.
Neil Wood
80 Posted 28/08/2019 at 14:02:51
He'd better bloody pick Kean: I have him for a hat-trick!

We must go all out to put 5 or 6 past these tonight and show zero mercy. 4-0 at half-time then afford a few a rest.

Nothing but a convincing victory is good enough for me.

Steve Ferns
81 Posted 28/08/2019 at 14:09:15
I'd rather a convincing victory against Wolves, Neil. A win against Lincoln is all that is needed. Even if we won 10-0, no one would care and it would not mean anything. We need to comfortably beat a decent Premier League side to restore confidence and belief.
Darren Hind
82 Posted 28/08/2019 at 14:13:53
I'm a big fan of Holgate and his fondness of playing football, but I wonder if Silva will ever start him. He seems to like the traditional big stopper and no amount of training will make Holgate one of those.

I have been alarmed by the number of times forwards have gone through 1 one 1 at Pickford so far this season (I can think of seven off the top) That not good enough. Neither one of them is playing particularly badly, but they are simply not on the same wave length.

Would love to see Holgate figure, but if he doesn't fit into Silva's plans, what would be the point? May as well give the other two more game time to form a credible partnership

James Marshall
83 Posted 28/08/2019 at 14:23:36
Yeah, and if he picks an inexperienced team and we lose, people will go mental and say why did he pick them?!

Football is a team game, you can't just pick names out of a hat.

Steve Ferns
84 Posted 28/08/2019 at 14:30:33
What you say makes perfect sense Darren. The only but is that it is inevitable that injury or suspension will strike and so Holgate will play. I'd rather he was ready and so I'd start him tonight.

Silva definitely prefers the big stoppers but Paulo Oliveira would give you some hope. He is listed as 1.87cm tall which is around 6'1.5". He missed 5 of the first 6 games of Silva's time at Sporting, before getting in the side and missing only one more league game through suspension. Paulo, as Jay Wood might confirm, was a decent player (capped for Portugal) who was similar to Holgate in that he liked to come out of defence with the ball, he liked to be the one who stepped into midfield to make tackles, and he had a decent range of passing.

So if he can force Silva to go against his preferences, then Holgate might also be able to do so. I have said before that I query Holgate's listed height of 1.84m but he is listed elsewhere as 1.87m, ie the same as Oliveira and about what I would have estimated having seen him up close (6'2" was my guess).

Ray Roche
85 Posted 28/08/2019 at 14:37:45
David@74

''It may however of been Saturday that you finished drinking.''
You know me so well

Conor, we have been reading on here for God knows how long that we need a trophy for the fans to celebrate. This Cup is our best chance. We should be going all out to win this and the FA Cup when that comes around in January. Any player selected SHOULD have both eyes on the game tonight, not one eye on a match against Wolves that makes the winner more likely to finish 8th. What would you have? An improvement on last Season and a 7th finish or tenth and a Cup victory and entry into the Europa League via that route?

Tony Abrahams
86 Posted 28/08/2019 at 14:41:44
I think Holgate could form a partnership with Mina, but not by stepping into midfield to make tackles or interceptions, but by sweeping and covering in behind him.

Keane's defending for the first Villa goal was just as bad as Walcott's miss the other night, and I'm not sure that the two big central defenders really compliment each other?

One last thing Steve F, but stop selecting Schneiderlin because he fits the Silva model... please!

Steve Ferns
87 Posted 28/08/2019 at 14:48:52
Ray, I would argue that the FA Cup is our best chance. The League Cup was the one no one gave a shit about, and still the "Big Six" sleepwalk their way through the early rounds, but come the quarter finals they take it more seriously. They see it as a trophy they can win and set a tone for the rest of the season. As this was thinking introduced by Mourinho in his early days.

Also consider the fixtures, the QFs and the SFs take place in December and January. So, the CL has wound down for the winter and they have some room in the schedule for the games. The final is then in February.

However, the FA Cup has important fixtures that clash with the important rounds of the CL and when the league enters it's final furlong. So, they are more likely to rest players as it is third fiddle.

So for me, the FA Cup is the easier of the two progress in, and if you make the final, there's always a chance.

Then there is also the issue of Martinez and his two semi-finals. He got no leigh way for that. He was duly sacked for poor league form, under pressure from us fans. So, if I was the manager, I would prioritise 7th, as 7th and out the cups early means I keep my job. 13th and 2 semi's and I lose it.

John Dingle
88 Posted 28/08/2019 at 14:51:22
Time to start a few new signings without disrupting the continuity, not that the continuity has been overwhelming.

Pickford
Sidibe Keane Holgate Baines
Davies Delph Iwobi
Calvert-Lewin Kean Bernard

Steve Ferns
89 Posted 28/08/2019 at 14:53:54
Tony, I selected him as he is the only fit defensive midfielder. If you rest Gomes, who was terrible last Friday and needs dropping, then we only have Delph, Davies and Schneiderlin fit.

I would also say that Scheiderlin was far from our worst player on Friday, not that that says too much. But on current form, I'd select him in our best XI on merit, not because he fits the profile Silva likes.

I generally like the idea of three fixed positions in a side. The centre-backs, the centre forward, and a defensive midfielder. The defensive midfielder in a fixed or holding position is where the term "pivot" comes from. In that others rotate around him. By holding that position and allowing others to be more fluid, the team can play better, more attacking football, without losing their defensive stability. For me, there's no one on our books who can do this, other than Schneiderlin.

Ray Roche
90 Posted 28/08/2019 at 15:02:51
Steve, I clearly state the we should prioritise this competition AND the FA Cup ''when that comes around in January". This is first, so we give priority to it. When the FA Cup starts, then that is the more glamorous and desirable trophy. But until then

And regarding Matinez' and his two semis. EFC have changed since then I think. Silva is Moshiri's man and I think he'll have some patience with him.

And after watching us spunk away five points already in games that posters on here were stating before a ball was kicked would be ''winnable'', is 7th a likely outcome? Leicester look a good side now as do Wolves. I fear we'll be scratching around trying to pip WHU to 9th or 10th. Apart from a smallish monetary advantage finishing 8th or 10th comes secondary to a brilliant and (hopefully) successful Cup run.

Rob Dolby
91 Posted 28/08/2019 at 15:03:02
I would rather play a full strength team tonight and rest players on Sunday.

I am fed up of not having decent cup runs and finishing mid table.
We aren't going to finish top 4 so try and win a cup.

None of this resting players. It's an insult to the fans.

John McFarlane Snr
92 Posted 28/08/2019 at 15:05:05
Hi Derek [21] you appear to have a Jekyll and Hyde nature, when we discussed all things Everton at the recent ToffeeWeb gathering, you put forward points, in a rational manner, but in some of your recent post's your dislike of Marco Silva and Morgan Scheiderlin were [in my opinion] disrespectful, and don't do you any favours.

In one post you referred to your hatred of Scheiderlin as follows, " I hate the Bastard" and in a more recent post you referred to Marco Silva as a 'Muppet' I don't suppose that either Schneiderlin or Silva will ever know of your feelings towards them, but for me it leaves a bitter taste, I firmly believe that criticism and dislike can be conveyed in a more acceptable manner.

Fran Mitchell
93 Posted 28/08/2019 at 15:07:25
I would have have liked to have seen both Simms and Gordon given a chance in this game.

Solid first team, with 3 young players given a chance to show their stuff

Pickford
Baines Mina Gibson Sibide
Davies Schneiderlin Gomes
Gordon Simms Kean

I know that Gordon played yesterday and it will never happen, but would have been good to see.

Ideally this is a comp to test drive young lads. But I also understand that with Everton nothing is ever ideal.

But I guess it will be
Lossl
Baines Keane Holgate Sibide
Delph Schneiderlin Davies
Iwobi Kean Walcott

We will probably win 2-0. We may just fuck it up. However, we should be winning 5-0 with the last 30 minutes being a "Let's not embarrass them, Lads" run about.....

Steve Ferns
94 Posted 28/08/2019 at 15:12:59
Ray, have you seen Wolves? I think they are definitely a side suffering "difficult second season syndrome" and the Europa League has not had time to tire their players out yet. I think we can definitely finish above them, and that's why, for me, Sunday is a massive game. To do so, we need a win, we need to get distance between ourselves and Wolves and pile the pressure onto them.

As for Leicester, I always thought they had a decent side, but like us they lack numbers in depth at the back. Once injuries strike they will struggle and if we capitalise, we can beat them to 7th. I think we are much stronger in depth than them, as our only real weakness (centre-back) is replicated by them were Wes Morgan is their third choice and they have no one of note as fourth choice.

John, Derek is a mischievous Scotsman, and that humour comes across talking to him, whereas the written word lacks the fact that he often has his tongue in his cheek.

Steve Ferns
95 Posted 28/08/2019 at 15:16:13
Fran, why would you prefer that centre-back partnership? Why not Holgate?

Did you see Gordon's goal? Good to see the lad stepping up a notch in his first competitive match since his debut in the Europa League. He was in and out, and hit and miss last season for the U23s. Big season for him I think. I hope he can end it with two feet firmly in the first team squad, and I hope Silva has one foot their already. Although he's not in the first team training videos unlike Gibson and Adedoyin.

Rob Marsh
96 Posted 28/08/2019 at 15:20:04
Eddie # 55

Absolutely they're making hard business decisions on where to put their energy and resources, but this one would be good for moral and we have to start somewhere.

Winston Williamson
97 Posted 28/08/2019 at 15:21:24
Pickford
Sidibe, Holgate, Keane, Baines
Bernard, Delph, Davies, Iwobi
Calvert-Lewin, Kean

4-4-2 away at Lincoln is achievable surely? Or are we scared of getting over-run in midfield? At Lincoln?

Steve Ferns
98 Posted 28/08/2019 at 15:30:28
Winston, it's not about being simply overrun, it's about fluidity of lines. a 4-4-2 prevents Digne (who I realise you have rested) from playing his natural game. He has his pathway occupied by a midfielder. Then Bernard is played deeper than he's played before. Sidibe is a wingback and might never have played as an old-fashioned fullback before, so he might find it confusing.

Unless you are suggesting we go 4-2-4 like we did against Villa, for the last 20 minutes or so, when we threw the kitchen sink at them and got nothing but hit with a sucker punch on the counter. If so, that's the risk.

Why not play a genuine 4-3-3 that Silva has yet to play, prefers to play, and hopefully has been working on in training. Drop Sigurdsson as you say and play three up top in a narrow formation and allow the fullbacks to get forwards?

Winston Williamson
99 Posted 28/08/2019 at 15:38:13
I was going to go for the 4-2-4 Steve, but like you, thought it too risky.

I get what you're saying, I just figure a nice flat back-line, Davies and Delph alternate sitting and going forward, and the traditional wingers attacking (yet both are hard working and can drop back to cover if necessary).

Calvert-Lewin and Kean should be a real handful together too.

That said, I do actually like your 4-3-3, and the reasoning you give too

Ray Roche
100 Posted 28/08/2019 at 15:39:32
Steve@94

Yes, I've seen Wolves. Unfortunately I've also seen us. One goal in three games and a crap pre-season? Okay, maybe a 19-year-old Italian lad will make us world beaters but let's not put pressure on the lad, eh?

We are at the moment a 25-minute team. After that, we either run out of ideas, what few we have, and just play possession football which gets us nowhere. Leicester DO have a smallish squad, but it's young and full of energy and skill. (Why didn't we go after Maddison for Christ's sake?)

Morgan is indeed a lousy back up and they are short in defence but their attacking play is full of energy and ambition and they're a damn sight better to watch at the moment than we are. If they stay injury free they're my bet for a top six or seven.

We may finish above Wolves. In 8th.

Mike Gaynes
101 Posted 28/08/2019 at 15:48:04
Peter #23, many thanks for the scouting report.

Sam #36, Mina did sit out a preseason game but I do not recall reading that it was for any injury. And regarding Gomes I would point out that he got all the way back in the 93rd minute, which speaks to his fitness, and I would say that failing to tackle Elghazi was simply because Gomes, as we all know, cannot tackle. Or defend in any form.

John McFarlane Snr
102 Posted 28/08/2019 at 15:49:46
Hi Steve [94] I am quite aware that a twinkling eye can be seen, and what may be written, is open to misinterpretation. I believe that's why more thought should be paid to the written word. I can see why you chose your vocation [written with a twinkle in my eye] I rest my case m'lud.
Steve Ferns
103 Posted 28/08/2019 at 15:50:38
Sidibe ain't your man for a 4-4-2 Winston. I think you will like him, but in an Allardyce side, he would be a liability, often caught too far forwards.

I saw him a few times for Monaco, he was on the right and Mendy of Man City was on the left. They got forwards like our fullbacks did in the 72 points season. But they were wide open to the counter. I didn't see enough of Monaco's follow-up season when they were bottom 3 for most of the season, but if I remember correctly, Sidibe was injured for most of it. I don't recall too much about Sidibe as Mendy was the one who really impressed, but he got forwards well and in tandem.

Steve Ferns
104 Posted 28/08/2019 at 15:55:35
Ray, I still think man for man we are the best side outside of last year's top 6. Leicester have the next best squad.

I would also like to think that Brands / Silva would have signed Maddison rather than Sigurdsson. Is Maddison better right now than Sigurdsson, I am not so sure, but it was a transfer with far more value.

As for taking him off Leicester, I doubt you meant that, I presume you meant off Norwich when they got him. We were heavily linked, but if it came down to us or Leicester, Maddison was always going to choose them. He had the opportunity, as he has done, to take the number 10 position for himself, whereas for us, he'd have been sub to Sigurdsson and played out wide when he did play. So, he'd always turn us down.

Good to hear from you John, and best wishes to you too, especially tonight and Sunday!

Christy Ring
105 Posted 28/08/2019 at 16:06:06
Holgate has to be given a run at centre back tonight, if I remember rightly, his last game in the centre was a couple of seasons ago against the redshite, and he didn't look out of place. He played full back for West Bromwich all last season, so needs game time in the middle, in case Mina or Keane get injured, as we never replaced the Jagielka or Zouma in the window.
Steve Ferns
106 Posted 28/08/2019 at 16:06:18
Winston, Silva's press conference talks about playing with two strikers, so you may be in luck. I would expect that to come with a midfield diamond though so maybe:

Pickford
Sidibe Keane Holgate Baines
Schneiderlin
Davies Delph
Iwobi
Calvert-Lewin Kean

Ray Roche
107 Posted 28/08/2019 at 16:06:47
Steve, yes, I did mean from Norwich.
Whether we ARE better man for man, possibly, but as a unit? City, the RS, Chelsea etc were all “man for man” better than Leicester when they won the League but Leicester were playing for each other with a simple but effective long ball game. Man for man doesn’t always mean a lot.
Steve Ferns
108 Posted 28/08/2019 at 16:13:12
Christy, your memory has gone. Holgate played centre-back for the first 6 games of the season. They were:

Wolves 2-2 draw (Jags sent off and Holgate on as sub)
Southampton 2-1 win at home, with Keane
Bournemouth 2-2 draw away, with Keane
Rotherham 3-1 home win, in LC with Zouma
Huddersfield 1-1 draw at home, with Zouma
West Ham 1-3 defeat at home, with Zouma

Then he was dropped to the bench as if West Ham was down to him, when Schniederlin was more of a liability (the day after his dad died), and then went to West Brom on loan in January.

I thought he did well in the Wolves and Southampton games, and whilst he was poor against West Ham, he was alright in the others.

Steve Ferns
109 Posted 28/08/2019 at 16:14:54
You are correct Ray. But that's where I have faith in Marco Silva to get more of his squad than Brendan Rogers.
Winston Williamson
110 Posted 28/08/2019 at 16:15:14
That sounds like a compromise between the two Steve, with the full-backs bombing forward too
James Hughes
111 Posted 28/08/2019 at 16:28:12
Strongest team possible should play tonight. We have no rhyme or reason to our play at present and look disjointed.

We can't score as both pre and new season have shown. If, and I mean if, we are winning by more than 3 goals make some changes. You never know converting a few chances might be good for morale.

Lincoln will want this game and will throw everything at it. Personally, I don't want us to go out at the first hurdle again. Please, Marco, don't let us down.

Ray Roche
112 Posted 28/08/2019 at 16:39:39
I hope you’re right Steve. Rogers seems to have them playing for each other though. They’re still reliant on Vardy more than Perez, maybe they will change their style to suit Perez now Vardy no longer has youth on his side.
Ray Roche
113 Posted 28/08/2019 at 16:41:31
By the way, we're on TV for a reason. People are expecting a slip up by a Premier League side!
Mike Kehoe
114 Posted 28/08/2019 at 16:42:30
I think we should field a strong team because, and I don’t want everyone to get on my case and accuse me of negativity or a lack of faith in Silva, but I don’t think we be winning the league this year. Just saying.
Christopher Timmins
115 Posted 28/08/2019 at 16:46:28
Given the squad size I can't see why we can select a strong team even if we give all the fringe/new players a run.

Hoping for a good result in what has been a very sad week for the game.

Mike Gaynes
116 Posted 28/08/2019 at 16:56:53
Steve #108, just to tweak your recollection, after his brief run at CB last season Holgate was dropped to the bench, but only for three games -- after which he was out of the squad completely for the rest of the year. Banished to the stands. And as you pointed out he hasn't played a minute at the position since, except in preseason friendlies.

That's why I will continue to assume (until I see evidence to the contrary) that Silva sees him as an emergency measure only, not a potential starter. But we'll know in a couple of hours.

Regarding your faith that Silva can get more out of his squad than Rogers can out of his... let's just say I remain highly skeptical and leave it at that.

Derek Knox
117 Posted 28/08/2019 at 17:06:42
Ray @113, as if we needed another reason for doing well tonight, you are right, they (Sky) would like nothing more than seeing us humiliated in front of millions.

I can see Big Nose, Merson and Le Tissier all sniggering now, and criticising, Charlie Nicholas gets a reprieve, because he is normally more pragmatic in his assessments, and doesn't seem to relish seeing any team under-perform.

While I fully appreciate we have the propensity of 'humiliating ourselves' with a weakened team selection, I just hope and pray, as does every other Evertonian, that we take this game with the seriousness it merits!

Tom Bowers
118 Posted 28/08/2019 at 17:06:53
Whoever starts needs to be 100% fit and ready to give 100% despite this being Lincoln and the Mickey Mouse cup.

Hopefully it's a good showing and nobody picks up any injuries before Sunday's game.

Frank Sheppard
119 Posted 28/08/2019 at 17:20:34
A good fixture for a change in personnel. I predict 3 changes from the Villa fiasco. Hopefully a change in personnel will lead to a change in fortune and attitude, and a banana skin avoided, and our season up and running.
Mike Gaynes
120 Posted 28/08/2019 at 17:22:16
DK #117, to be fair, everybody enjoys these games because of the possibility of a minnow eating a whale. I always tune in hoping to see an upset... then, as yesterday with the Villa/Crewe and Hammers/Newport games, I turn it off when the Prem side gets a couple goals up.

So I don't really think it's a conspiracy against us specifically.

Derek Knox
121 Posted 28/08/2019 at 17:38:19
Mike G, while I tend to agree, regarding Cup upsets, can I also remind you that WE ARE THE WHALE in this particular joust. Come on you Whales!

Let's give these minnows a Moby Dicking!

Neil Copeland
122 Posted 28/08/2019 at 17:40:50
Oh come on now Derek, stop your spouting.
Brent Stephens
123 Posted 28/08/2019 at 17:41:27
Neil, Derek is a blue...
Derek Knox
124 Posted 28/08/2019 at 17:52:30
Brent, not a sperm?

You're obviously all have a whale of a time, taking the ambergris (rhyming slang) out of me, but being a blue, I won't take the hump(back) over it. I'm hoping for an Orca attitude tonight, and put the Baleen the back of the net!

Mike Gaynes
125 Posted 28/08/2019 at 17:54:01
We just don't want to be blubbering at the end.

Sorry, DK, I know you tried to corner the market on whale puns, but you missed one.

Ray Roche
126 Posted 28/08/2019 at 17:56:31
I love Whales. I even live in Prestatyn.
Mike Gaynes
127 Posted 28/08/2019 at 17:57:50
Ray, I'm watching one out my window right now. Don't know if it's a good or bad omen.
Neil Copeland
128 Posted 28/08/2019 at 18:00:58
Derek, you're killing me.
Derek Knox
129 Posted 28/08/2019 at 18:05:39
Mike G, you're not adrift at at sea are you? The one you saw is probably going home after School!

Call the Coastguard and get them to bring a Video link for tonight's game!

Mike Gaynes
130 Posted 28/08/2019 at 18:08:29
DK, I'm a beached whale.
Jay Harris
131 Posted 28/08/2019 at 18:11:32
I do belive that Silva will revweert to 4-3-3 for this one. My preferred lineup:

Pickford (Lössl I guess)
Holgate Kean Mina Baines
Davies Schneiderlin Delph
Walcott Kean Iwobi

I believe that gives us pace and goal threat up front with a hardworking and mobile midfield flank with an anchor (with no disrespect intended for anchors) in the centre of midfield.

Subs: Gomes, Bernard, Calvert-Lewin, Keane and Coleman.

I am anticipating a tough game as evidenced by Palace and Norwich going out and West Ham very luckily beating Newport.

Brent Stephens
132 Posted 28/08/2019 at 18:15:36
The "School" of Science makes even more sense now.
Brian Hennessy
133 Posted 28/08/2019 at 18:23:05
For me, Gomes's performance against Villa was more down to confidence than fitness. You could see it [confidence] drain from him after a few missed paced passes early on.

He seems to be a delicate individual. He grew in stature last season helped no doubt by the fact that many of the home fans at Goodison really supported him, no doubt because they can see what talent he does possess.

Long term I think finding the right sports physiologist for the lad could be the key to getting the best from him.

Ray Roche
134 Posted 28/08/2019 at 18:27:09
I hope it's not a case of ''Oh Whale, better luck next time''.

Shouldn't these puns be on the Live Forum? I mean, we've had fish, cats etc

Kim Vivian
135 Posted 28/08/2019 at 18:32:57
Psychologist...
David Pearl
136 Posted 28/08/2019 at 18:35:15
Jay, Sidibe.

Brian, he was awful. I can’t remember a player making so many mistakes as that in one game.

Kim Vivian
137 Posted 28/08/2019 at 18:37:27
Nah...whal I suppose if we actually had a live forum.
John Pierce
138 Posted 28/08/2019 at 18:45:24
Marco. Stop picking players out of form, Richarlison, Sigurdssson & Gomes.

Starting playing a formation and tactical approach that is sooo predictable and diminishes our centre forward and no.10.

The player which made your formation work, Gana, is gone. Gomes cannot cope without a minder to mop up after him. Change it fella.

Davies, Kean & Iwobi in. The lads above out. Maybe Sidibe for Coleman.

Stop fucking about Marco, you’ll get herself sacked.

😘 Jp

Peter Thistle
139 Posted 28/08/2019 at 18:46:10
Calvert-Lewin and Walcott have to be dropped, they are both holding us back. We all know Calvert-Lewin couldn't score an open goal and Walcott messes up every good opportunity he gets to cross a ball or score.

Tosun? You's are having a laugh, he should never play for us again. This is possibly the worst team in terms of threats to score goals I've seen as an Everton fan for 35 years. Put Kean in now and get his match fitness up, we need him badly.

God knows what's up with Gomes and Sigurdsson, they look totally out of it. If they don't hit top form soon we will be stuck at the bottom of the table before long. We need GOALS.

Steve Ferns
140 Posted 28/08/2019 at 18:47:30
Team announced. Sigurdson plays but Kean starts with Iwobi and Richarlison up top.

Pickford

Sidibe Keane Holgate Digne
Schneiderlin Delph
Richarlison Sigurdsson Iwobi
Kean

Disappointed in Marco here, to be honest.

David Pearl
141 Posted 28/08/2019 at 18:48:17
Well, that line up surely puts to bed the myth that Silva prefers 4-3-3. Strong team though.
David Pearl
142 Posted 28/08/2019 at 18:49:17
Peter,

Come on. Don't you remember John Spencer etc etc etc etc etc???

Steve Ferns
143 Posted 28/08/2019 at 18:50:05
How does it, David? It shows he favours Sigurdsson. And Sigurdsson prevents 4-3-3 as it has absolutely no place for him.
David Pearl
144 Posted 28/08/2019 at 18:51:41
I can't remember one time he has played 4-3-3 with us Steve. If he wanted to try his so-called favoured set-up, today was the day.
Dave Abrahams
145 Posted 28/08/2019 at 18:55:13
Steve (140), any news of the subs, I think they will be needed.
Jay Harris
146 Posted 28/08/2019 at 18:55:45
Shame he couldn't find a place for Tom Davies and, IMO, Richarlison needs a rest to be fresh for Wolves.

Who are the subs, Steve?

Trevor Peers
147 Posted 28/08/2019 at 18:57:32
It's been in the Express all day that Sigurdsson would play, no surprise there then except on TW.
Jay Harris
148 Posted 28/08/2019 at 19:00:06
So poor Tom Davies doesn't even make the bench and Holgate and Kean are partnered up in what was a disastrous partnership last year.

The manager's complement of substitutes is completed by Andre Gomes, Yerry Mina, Leighton Baines and goalkeeper Maarten Stekelenburg, Dominic Calvert-Lewin, Cenk Tosun and Theo Walcott.

Derek Knox
149 Posted 28/08/2019 at 19:00:13
Calvert-Lewin is extremely disappointed, he's been attending a crash Bovine Farming Course, as well as becoming very proficient on a certain 5-string long-necked musical instrument (to Flatts and Scruggs standard) and they've dropped him. 😥
John Pierce
150 Posted 28/08/2019 at 19:03:40
Same formation, same tactical approach. Duh.

Too much faith in his favorites. He his completely chastened that without Sigurdsson and Richarlison we don't score. Therefore never drops them.

He has two players for most positions, he says talks about competition for places but several players know it ain't happening unless his ‘pets' get injured.

Not impressed.

John Cartwright
151 Posted 28/08/2019 at 19:08:01
This is a match full of conundrums. Should we select our strongest team? After such a disappointing start, what is our strongest team? Should we introduce a youngster or new signing? Or should we let fringe members of the squad get a run about?

It has been discussed at length in previous posts. I honestly don't know but the debate is fascinating.

Neil Wood
152 Posted 28/08/2019 at 19:25:39
I actually quite like the look of it and my hat trick for Kean prediction looks good!!!
Mike Gaynes
153 Posted 28/08/2019 at 19:35:17
Agree the subs will be crucial, as Sidibe, Delph and Iwobi cannot possibly be fully game fit.

Trouble is, Silva is generally crap in the use of his subs.

I like your prediction, Neil.

Mike Gaynes
154 Posted 28/08/2019 at 19:42:11
For those in the US, the game is now live on ESPN+.

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