Mina fined over betting advert

Ah well at least it's over with now, and no suspension to accompany the fine. Let's hope he has not only learnt a lesson for himself but also sent a message through the ranks to others.

Thank God he wasn't suspended. We should maybe organize a whip round to help out with fine.

There was absolutely zero reason for Mina to be suspended over such a minor infraction... but given how Everton always seems to get screwed over in such matters, I wasn't about to go on the record saying that before the situation was resolved.

Brian, as if? :-)

Bill, in all fairness I wouldn't really call it a minor infraction, there are strict rules (for a reason) about Sportsmen and Gambling and rightly so in my opinion. I know it happened in his own Country but quite often Gambling and Major crime Syndicates are often inextricably linked.

As a Defender too, it would be 'easy' to let a goal in, against the run of play and change the expected result, because there is pressure (off the field with his family as hostages) on him to do so. Maybe I have gone to the extreme but it does and has happened.

Derek, I assume you don't know the details of this one?

It's absolute bollocks. He appeared in an advert for a gambling firm in Colombia, speaking only Spanish. He donated his fee to his charity based in Colombia. He has not bet on any games.

Had he appeared in an advert for SportPesa, our sponsors, as part of our sponsorship it would be fine. It's fine to play football with the firm emblazoned on the shirt, and to be on the shirt on all kinds of official publicity everywhere. But for him to star in an advert for another firm is a breach of betting rules?

Absolute hypocritical bollocks.

To add to Steve's comment - this was from the BBC as to why Mina never received a ban:

“Mina's mitigating factors:

The advert was entirely in Spanish

It was not broadcast outside of Colombia and was removed as soon as Mina realised he had broken betting rules

Mina did not profit from the advert - his fee was donated to the Yerry Mina Foundation

He admitted the charge at the earliest opportunity and apologised for his mistake”

If he has broken written rules then fair enough - he should be punished - regardless of how daft the rule may be.

The issue for me is that it is being reported as “a breach of betting rules”. It's completely misleading. He appeared in an advert. Anyway, it's done and dusted now so let's look ahead!

Don't forget, Tim, he was fined as much for this hypocrisy as Millwall FC were fined for their racist fans. It's ridiculous.

As I wrote on a different thread yesterday, at the same time as the FA announced this one (and remember, Mina was fined £10,000 for appearing in an ad for a betting company, NOT betting on games), Jordan Stevens of Leeds was given a six-week ban and fined £1,200.

His crime? He admitted to placing 59 bets on football between August 2018 and May 2019, five of which involved bets on Leeds games.

Tony Kay, anyone..?

Something very disproportionate in all this.

Agree Steve #5, the whole situation is farcical. When there are so many teams in the league whose shirts are emblazoned with betting company logos playing in front of the cameras every week.

Just listening to talkshite & they are talking about the Leeds youngster who has been punished for betting on games. Generally talking negatively about betting. First break they go to during the discussion and the first advert is for Betfair! What hypocrisy, you couldn't make it up!

Isn't Talksport also part of Murdoch's media empire which of course also includes Sky Bet in which they use they own presenters and pundits to promote?

Hypocrisy indeed.

I listen to TalkSport when food shopping and whilst a lot of it is just filler there was an interesting point about Betting firms a few weeks back which just stinks of hypocrisy. Much like how Tobacco and Alcohol firms were stopped from sponsoring, the leagues would love to do the same with betting firms.

However, they are one of the few industries left who want to and have the funds to actually pay a decent sponsorship amount! Also laughable is that the EFL is sponsored by SkyBet...

Am I wrong here or doesn't that greedy Corporate whore Klipperty advertise amongst other things Cars /Razors (yes I know, he probably uses them on his legs), Betting and Alcohol both addictions that can destroy almost solely working class lives, you won't see any betting shops in the affluent areas of Dublin, I note.

How is this greedy grabbing rat exempt from being fined? Surely this sets a dreadful example to young fans although the man's lack of any apparent "class" or sportsmanship seems largely ignored in most circles

Steve @ 5, I take on board what you have said there, but wedges and thin ends spring to mind, it always starts somewhere that is seemingly innocuous. Whether it be in Spanish or Swahili.

Although there is a hypocritical side to this, as with most teams sponsors, especially the ones promoting or being seen to promote Gambling/Casinos etc. :-)

DK, I would draw the line just after advertising. Mina appearing in a betting advert in Colombia that got pulled when someone spotted it breached the rules should not have warranted the fine it did. It should have been a word of warning and no publicity.

But I do take your point that if organised crime via a legitimate betting company paid him £10m for an advert, then you'd suspect it was match fixing, so a line needs to be drawn somewhere. But this scenario would require to look at market rates for advertising.

I still believe it's ridiculous and hypocritical to fine him, especially an amount similar to what a club paid for racist fans. I know what I consider to be worse.

Derek, wedges thin or otherwise don't remotely spring to mind.

It is ok to admit that you weren't aware of all the details, nobody is judging - he took on a side job, I imagine at the behest of his agent, then donated the proceeds to his foundation, all of which is a far cry from placing a bet on a match himself, let alone actually trying to influence the outcome.

I think this has been discussed on at least three separate threads since the story first broke, and the general feeling was one of sheer bafflement in fining a player for appearing in an advert for a betting company when he walks around in an advert for such a company every time he dons the blue jersey.

The details of the fine when compared to the examples provided by Steve and Jay just adds to the ludicrousness of the situation.

Another case of muddled rules and regs. Simple fact is if Mina had sponsored this on behalf of EFC with their approval, then no there is problem. Go on your own and you are a very naughty boy and will be put on the naughty step.

The FA/PL board would probably sanction genocide if the people involved ran a betting firm. However, if the same company sold booze that would be no good.

The FA has not been fit for purpose for a long time. Not corrupt – just too big and too unwieldy.

Being fined so heavily, he'll have to make do with just the one bottle of Armand de Brignac shampers this weekend.

No Rob. I reckon this weekend he withheld the fine from his charitable foundation, so he could still have the champers and scratch his bollocks in front of the telly. Because that is what all rich people are like.

Without knowing (or wanting to know) the ins and outs of the FAs rulebook, this does appear ironic and contradictory given we advertise gambling (as does Mina) every time we walk onto a football pitch; and we receive sponsorship income for doing so.

While it would be difficult as they have a foot either side, Everton should have tested this at least in a Sport Tribunal but yet again think there is some advantage in not making waves.

Anyone know when Harry Kane's case is being considered?
Perhaps Mr Levy could advise.

As I mentioned on another thread at the end of the transfer window, I can't wait to see what happens with Wayne Rooney at Derby, having his wages paid by a betting company, and also wearing their company name as his shirt number.