The Blues released a statement late this evening confirming that despite reports the Italian had agreed a deal to succeed Marco Silva, no firm contract offer has been made to Ancelotti or any other candidate.
Sky Sports News and their sources in Italy, had claimed earlier that Ancelotti travelled to Liverpool today and had agreed a deal in principle with the Toffees but this was countered as the day went on by other media outlets, most notably The Athletic's Adam Crafton, BBC Sport contributor Guillem Balague and the Daily Mail's Dominic King who all maintained that the 60-year-old was still in Rome and preparing for a trip to Naples and this a holiday in Canada but was tempted by the offer.
Crafton and David Anderson of The Mirror both indicated that sources close to Ancelotti were confident he would accept the offer to become Silva's replacement following a conversation with Farhad Moshiri by telephone.
Everton's statement read:
In the 11 days since Marco Silva left the club, the Everton Board have been working to recruit a new manager - and has held meetings with a number of canidates.
We can confirm that thus far no contract offer has been made and no candidate has chosen to withdraw from the process.
Everton playing coy might be due to the fact that Ancelotti's return to Naples is to finalise the details of his severance from Napoli who sacked him last week. The Serie A club elected not to keep him on gardening leave which meant that interested clubs were free to approach him without fear of paying compensation but Ancelotti still has financial details to iron out.
Regardless of the progress regarding a permanent successor to Silva, caretaker boss Duncan Ferguson will be in charge for Wednesday's Carabao Cup tie with Leicester City.
The Scot has overseen a handsome win over Chelsea and a hugely creditable draw with Manchester United at Old Trafford, that despite a glut of injuries, particularly in midfield.
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1 Posted 16/12/2019 at 22:45:41
2 Posted 16/12/2019 at 22:47:29
3 Posted 16/12/2019 at 22:48:52
4 Posted 16/12/2019 at 22:53:01
5 Posted 16/12/2019 at 22:54:14
6 Posted 16/12/2019 at 23:02:22
7 Posted 16/12/2019 at 23:02:25
8 Posted 16/12/2019 at 23:03:36
Everton are going to out-Everton themselves yet again!
Classic Everton this.
9 Posted 16/12/2019 at 23:03:51
10 Posted 16/12/2019 at 23:05:56
His first signings will be Barkley, Jags, McCarthy & Gueye.
He wants a better sound system at Goodison.
When there is a live game the TV company microphones have to be moved from the corner of Bullens Rd by the away supporters and placed by the Street End.
And Bill Kenwright has nothing to do with anything, especially the ground move.
How smart is that!
Christmas has come early?
11 Posted 16/12/2019 at 23:07:53
12 Posted 16/12/2019 at 23:08:14
The man certainly has pedigree unlike the bunch we have had before but like Mourinho can he repeat in the Premier League.
It's got to be him or Jeremy Corbyn who is also available.
13 Posted 16/12/2019 at 23:10:54
14 Posted 16/12/2019 at 23:11:58
Look at the defence organisation, especially the set-piece defence, it's much better now. His 'back to the basics' approach and his will to grind out a result attitude is what we need at the moment. Getting a manager in mid-season and let him buy players (eg,Tosun and Walcott) is not the best idea.
And I find it interesting to see people commenting how he's destroyed Kean. As a player, he will get embarrassed and upset for sure, but if he can't bounce back from it, he will never make it to the top anyway. It's the time of life and death. Getting points is everything. Daddy warm hugs can be waited.
15 Posted 16/12/2019 at 23:14:46
Some people get hungrier with age as they know that time is against them.
He's only 60 for Christ sake; he's hardly pushing a Zimmer, wetting his kex and dribbling uncontrollably! That'll be me if he signs.
The man doesn't win all that silverware without being a great manager.
Silver hair, silverware? Silva where?
17 Posted 16/12/2019 at 23:16:12
18 Posted 16/12/2019 at 23:18:09
19 Posted 16/12/2019 at 23:18:36
20 Posted 16/12/2019 at 23:22:11
21 Posted 16/12/2019 at 23:23:10
My guess is he has plenty and, wherever his next job is, he'll be paid plenty more.
22 Posted 16/12/2019 at 23:28:26
"Yes, I can speak "Airport"".
No, Carlo. You get to Speke Airport".
"Yes, I always get to speak. Man in charge. I can say "airport" - see".
"No, Carlo. Airport - capital A".
"Capital, eh! Everton is in the capital! Suits me down to the ground, as you say. Love London".
"Carlo, Speke Airport is South Liverpool".
"Liverpool goes that far south? To London? Capital, as you English say. I'm good at the "ringo", yes".
"No, Carlo. You mean lingo. Ringo was one of The Beatles. Band from Liverpool".
"Banned from Liverpool? What did he do? Teeth not big enough?"
"Carlo, just get on the train and get off at Edge Hill".
"Ah. Get off at Edge Hill. You want me to "pull out"?
"No we still... ah fuck off".
23 Posted 16/12/2019 at 23:31:21
24 Posted 16/12/2019 at 23:31:30
25 Posted 16/12/2019 at 23:46:23
Those questioning his ability probably thought Silva was the dogs bollocks at one time.
Just think of the players who will be in awe of him instead of taking the piss.
Him and Dunc's little team backed by a defensive coach and some top signings in January will be just the tonic we need as a club. Get that planning application in, Moshiri. I can feel the good times coming.
26 Posted 16/12/2019 at 23:50:15
Just get it done for once!
27 Posted 17/12/2019 at 00:08:37
28 Posted 17/12/2019 at 00:11:10
29 Posted 16/12/2019 at 00:16:26
They are going to appoint a new manager.
They have a short list of at least two but probably three.
They have interviewed each candidate telling them what the expectation is, the plans for the future, the structure of the club, the pay.
All the candidates are interested because none of them have said they don't want it.
They haven't written any of the candidates off.
They are waiting for a response from each candidate but have probably decided on a favourite.
They are waiting for each candidate to get back to them.
When they get all the responses in they will offer a formal contract.
I hope it results in Carlo Ancelotti being appointed.
1061 games - 628 wins - 2 goals a game average. That will do me. For full details have a look at his website
That form will get us into Bramley-Moore Dock over the next 3 years.
30 Posted 17/12/2019 at 00:38:28
I heard he had a chair lift installed at the stairs in his house.
It would be my guess that Brands would not be happy with appointment due to the age factor. My guess is he would prefer someone around 40 to 45 years of age
31 Posted 17/12/2019 at 00:40:05
I've also heard rumours that Ibrahimovic would be interested in a short deal in January to link back up with Carlo. That would be crazy talk.
I would believe that if the Italian did somehow sign on the dotted line, there would be plenty of top players willing / wanting to play for him.
32 Posted 17/12/2019 at 00:43:47
The club must have a person in charge of PR and the board members and management should be aware of the concern of the public ie supporters with yet another change whilst in a precarious league position. It would be unexpected that they would come out with a comment from the board that they are running around like headless chucks trying to find a "body" to accept the unpopular job role. However, perhaps it would not be out of order for the club to issue a calm, understanding PR statement that the club is reviewing the management contenders and is targeting "X" date to make the appointment.
It would be unexpected that they would come out with a comment from the board that they are running around like headless chucks trying to find a "body" to accept the unpopular job role. However, perhaps it would not be out of order for the club to issue a calm, understanding PR statement that the club is reviewing the management contenders and is targeting "X" date to make the appointment.
33 Posted 17/12/2019 at 01:01:35
The statement says nothing and does nothing. Why say anything at all?
Everton are Dons of bad PR. I'm mean they must employ a YTS to do this for them.
34 Posted 17/12/2019 at 01:08:35
My concern is whether this will be Brands's decision or not and whether big Dunc will be rewarded with a more prominent role.
35 Posted 17/12/2019 at 01:17:59
36 Posted 17/12/2019 at 01:45:59
Or to allow him to conclude whatever settlement he's getting from Napoli.
Huge statement if he comes. Champions League winner, multiple title winner, including in England. There couldn't be an available manager with a better CV.
37 Posted 17/12/2019 at 02:15:32
Not wanting it to go pearshaped at the last moment, personally I would say this as good as a done deal, unless someone comes in and gazumps us.
38 Posted 17/12/2019 at 02:30:30
It's a piss poor appointment, he will fail miserably, and it won't really bother hm; his CV is good enough to get another job after this.
39 Posted 17/12/2019 at 03:31:27
Unbelievable it is to me, that some would prefer Big Dunc. Moyes or Arteta over Ancelotti. Just unbelievable.
40 Posted 17/12/2019 at 04:17:27
41 Posted 17/12/2019 at 04:28:50
I didn't expect them to say much more and certainly not name anyone especially as nobody has accepted or the pecking order finalized. I just wonder if it all goes out of the window should Big Dunc win a couple of games between now and Christmas and Ancelotti takes his booked holiday in sunny Canada.
42 Posted 17/12/2019 at 05:07:11
Ferguson, Arteta, Moyes, Ancelotti; nobody ticks all of the boxes all of the time. He's most likely the best available, but it's always a gamble.
He's supposed to be off to Canada for Christmas, so I might get my wish to see Ferguson see off Liverpool at Anfield â€“ then hand over.
With The County Road Casuals, you never can tell, there's always more ticks in the question box than the answer box.
As Mr Zimmerman states:
Come writers and critics
Who prophesies with your pen
And keep your eyes wide
The chance won't come again,
And don't speak too soon
For the wheel's still in spin,
And there's no tellin' who
That it's namin'.
For the loser now
Will be later to win
For the times they are a-changin'. - (for the 5th time?)
43 Posted 17/12/2019 at 06:39:04
Maybe we can hire Michael Branch as our new accountant?
44 Posted 17/12/2019 at 06:42:34
45 Posted 17/12/2019 at 06:49:07
Or David Moyes.
46 Posted 17/12/2019 at 06:52:48
He wants to get paid and he doesn't give a rat's ass about Everton.
Better keep Big Dunc or hire David Moyes.
Or even better, hire Jeremy Corbyn as the Merseyside is Labor's last bastion in the UK.
For my money, Ancelloti will stink like a two months old bread.
47 Posted 17/12/2019 at 07:05:20
48 Posted 17/12/2019 at 07:38:28
He's a proven winner who is still quite young as a leading manager.
I'd like Duncan to have an up-front, touch line role working under the great Ancelotti for a couple or three seasons before taking the reigns.
49 Posted 17/12/2019 at 07:39:16
Hope this has not had any negative impact, on Duncan and his preparations for Wednesday's Cup game.
50 Posted 17/12/2019 at 07:40:42
Can just see them now:
- Guardiola linked with Everton.
- “Nah, he lost the league to liverpool and he's won too much now so won't be hungryâ€
Utter madness. He is a WINNER, and he will attract good players.
Whoever it is, judge after a season and get behind them for once.
51 Posted 17/12/2019 at 07:47:56
52 Posted 17/12/2019 at 07:59:06
Beat Chelsea, Leicester and Arse in back to back home wins - how's that for an early Xmas?
53 Posted 17/12/2019 at 08:06:56
54 Posted 17/12/2019 at 08:08:52
People going on about his age need to take a reality check - this is Ancelloti!
Hardly gets much better in terms of football management.
55 Posted 17/12/2019 at 08:09:47
56 Posted 17/12/2019 at 08:10:24
57 Posted 17/12/2019 at 08:14:55
58 Posted 17/12/2019 at 08:15:14
59 Posted 17/12/2019 at 08:18:58
60 Posted 17/12/2019 at 08:20:32
61 Posted 17/12/2019 at 08:20:50
62 Posted 17/12/2019 at 08:31:05
I wonder how much money he has been promised on transfer fees, I hope his priority is to buy a top class striker in January, that would go some way to winning over the fans.
63 Posted 17/12/2019 at 08:32:56
64 Posted 17/12/2019 at 08:41:53
Honestly, I don't think money is an issue for either him, his team of coaches, or our club. This would be more about the relationship between Moshiri, Brands and the new coach. I think this appointment is more about how the three can start carving out sense from a lopsided squad and a team out of form.
In which case I'd rather that coach be a serial winner.
65 Posted 17/12/2019 at 08:48:04
66 Posted 17/12/2019 at 08:58:37
I couldn't give a flying farthing what reaason he comes for. As long as he succeeds. His CV says he has a better chance then most. I hope a load of top players come for the money too. If we make this signing I'm assuming that the chequebook is still open.
Beats spending a small fortune on crap.
67 Posted 17/12/2019 at 08:59:19
However, I think I agree with Carragher. Is Ancelotti the type of manager that comes into a club trying to get from 15th to 6th? Maybe he is but I don't think it's a role he's familiar with, at least not in the second half of his career.
68 Posted 17/12/2019 at 09:02:20
Mark @ 47, I think we might be finally learning.. not to make crap management hires like Silva, Allardyce, Koeman, Martinez and Moyes. Combine the trophies that lot have won combined as compared to Carlo. As for being too old, let's not even go there.
69 Posted 17/12/2019 at 09:03:50
70 Posted 17/12/2019 at 09:04:07
Ancelotti is a born winner both as a player and coach, he's only 60 years old and he is unarguably one of the best managers around, it would be nothing short of amazing if we get him. His teams are exciting to watch, solid defensively, he has fluidity in systems and formations not sticking with one no matter what, his players love him and run through brick walls for him, he's managed in England before and very successfully, I actually don't know what more we could ask for I really don't.
Nothing guarantees success in the premier league but signing the best staff and players available to you gives you the best chance of it.
Sometimes I despair at our supporters when I read some of the thoughtless negativity on here
71 Posted 17/12/2019 at 09:12:44
72 Posted 17/12/2019 at 09:14:05
73 Posted 17/12/2019 at 09:15:30
Many pouring water and scorn on this news, Carragher is seething on SSN saying he doesn't believe that Ancelotti is necessarily a good fit.
No! He's crapping himself that we may start to experience success, and become a serious challenger once again. What a bitter and twisted person he is, and a first class gobshite into the bargain. Should have been sacked over the spitting incident, shows how decadent Sky is, having dual standards.
74 Posted 17/12/2019 at 09:20:37
If we were able to land him it would send out a message to all the folk taking the piss out of us for considering Moyes.
There are no certainties and it could go badly, but he knows all of the tricks of the trade and would have instant respect from the players and would be an attraction in himself for future signings.
Of course he could do the job for a year or 18 months and trot off to one of the big boys.
I love Dunc but once the bubble bursts some of those slagging off Carlo on here, will be rubbishing Ferguson.
Duncan is doing fine for now so the club are in the position to do what they are doing, taking time to get the best candidate. If it doesn't happen we can go on with Duncan, even to the end of the season.
75 Posted 17/12/2019 at 09:26:04
This guy has forgotten more than Martinez, Koeman and Silva put together will ever know!!
A fee on here were all for Silva and a couple of others because they'd won the Albanian league twice with Shite Utd, the Greek league and the Cup with Porto
Look at Ancelottis career
All we need now is for big Usmanov to commit
Leave big Dunc in place for a couple of weeks and let Ancelotti have his two week holiday at Butlins
76 Posted 17/12/2019 at 09:26:25
That's the same shower of shite who said he'd already signed!
Wouldn't believe a word Sky say. They just want to be the first and they've cocked up royally on this already!
77 Posted 17/12/2019 at 09:31:57
78 Posted 17/12/2019 at 09:34:59
79 Posted 17/12/2019 at 09:41:33
80 Posted 17/12/2019 at 09:48:27
I would bloody love this to happen and for CA to continue Dunc's metamorphic impact, but somehow I don't think it will happen.
81 Posted 17/12/2019 at 09:48:44
In other words, regular top-6 finishes should be readily achievable if the team is well organised and motivated. Add a couple more pivotal signings to give strength-in-depth, and there's no reason why we shouldn't be competing at the top.
This is the background Ancelloti would be coming to, not the background of a lower midtable club as some people in the media have implied. Our current position in the league is not representative overall.
In this respect, a top manager like Ancelloti is an ideal fit for Everton if we are genuinely aiming to really compete at the top immediately or very soon.
That's probably precisely why certain people in the media are 'protesting' about the idea, because they know there's a very good chance of us starting to compete at the top.
82 Posted 17/12/2019 at 09:51:29
83 Posted 17/12/2019 at 09:56:32
Moyes not comin' to Everton after all.
The people in West Ham is on their hands and knees begging for forgiveness trying to get Moyes back into their fold.
They realized how dumb they were for hiring a low down Italian as their Manager.
Apparently the dude can only work magic if he has unlimited transfer funds as opposed to Moyes who can get the same result but with no money.
So you can kiss Moyes goodbye cause we had the chance and we blew it
84 Posted 17/12/2019 at 09:57:31
we can dream.
85 Posted 17/12/2019 at 10:09:43
I just wonder if Duncan hadnt produced 4 points from 2 very tough games would they still be taking their time, I think not. What if still no new manager is here by the weekend and the team wins both matches against Leicester and Arsenal, do we still keep looking or does Duncan get it till the end of the season. Then if that happens what imput will he have regarding player purchases in Jan.
86 Posted 17/12/2019 at 10:14:50
Guys like Cahill and Fergusson will help to get that DNA back into the club, but Carlo is a great man manager.
87 Posted 17/12/2019 at 10:16:30
'you just think Klopp, and Liverpool, yes, it's a perfect match, they fit. But Ancelotti, Bayern, Real Madrid, Milan, Paris, and Everton? Everton, working class committed, but. '
and then he drifts off into fug, dead air
He still has traces of the Dutch accent he adopted for that ill starred tenure at Magic Eight or wherever the fuck it was
88 Posted 17/12/2019 at 10:17:06
Pellegrini is Chilean not Italian.
89 Posted 17/12/2019 at 10:17:45
90 Posted 17/12/2019 at 10:22:17
Everton will be a challenge for him, but if he takes it is hugely encouraging that he can see our potential and that someone of his calibre can confidently see a path to it being realised.
91 Posted 17/12/2019 at 10:22:58
92 Posted 17/12/2019 at 10:25:12
Imagine the experience Ferguson would gain 2 years under Carlo. Kinda like how much experience Arteta must be gaining.
93 Posted 17/12/2019 at 10:25:35
Were you asleep for the last 3 years of Moyes at Everton??
94 Posted 17/12/2019 at 10:25:42
Is he about to appear from behind the curtain and announce himself? Is Usmanov Santa?
He's easily fat enough to be Mr Claus.
He's from a very cold place.
I'm sure to get to be as wealthy as he is in business then home invasion could be part of his tactics.
He's had Moshiri as his 'beard'.
Being an ex Soviet and Arsenal fan, he is used to dressing in red.
I won't go on.
Or am I just full of festive intrigue (or shite)?
95 Posted 17/12/2019 at 10:33:24
Beat me to it !!
Besides that Rahman makes some excellent points doesn't he ??
I'm generalizing here but his use of the word "dude" suggests hes stoned.
Dont be offended Rahman if you aren't I'm just trying to give you some defense as to the owner of the worst post of the day.
Please everyone form an orderly queue as we hopefully give Rahmans hero (Moyes ) the fuckin vulture sitting on the roof of the top balcony a kiss goodbye!! Mwah mwah
96 Posted 17/12/2019 at 10:36:15
Regardless of what has been said he will not be taking the job on without ample funds to improve the squad.
People like Steve Maclaren have no idea about Everton and their standing in the game. I just hope Carlo is the man to awaken the sleeping giant after so long in the wilderness.
97 Posted 17/12/2019 at 10:38:41
Assurances from Mosh and Brands of a list of quality targets to go at asap should be integral to his deliberations but I imagine the only list they have is a xmas card list
98 Posted 17/12/2019 at 10:40:22
Ancelotti now in London. He wanted to be away from football till summer, but the Everton project (4 year deal, one of top 3 paid managers in world) ambitious and long term. He'd ONLY accept if he could build a good team in the next few years. He doesn't want to drag the decision
99 Posted 17/12/2019 at 10:43:57
Carlo won't be coming to put up with mid table plucky Everton, he will be here to break into the top 4.
It will be some Christmas present for us!
100 Posted 17/12/2019 at 10:49:40
What slightly worries me is that, having leaked the Ancelotti story, he's got us over a barrel because of the above scenario. He can ask for anything, knowing how stupid we'll look if he turns us down.
101 Posted 17/12/2019 at 10:50:02
102 Posted 17/12/2019 at 10:52:58
103 Posted 17/12/2019 at 10:56:42
The latest brainless idiot to spout shit on there, Jamie O' Hara.
According to him, Ancelotti is probably sat there waiting for the phone to ring from Arsenal asking him to go down to London. He can't believe that Ancelotti may be the Everton manager & Arteta the Arsenal manager. It should be the other way around according to him.
What's to say that a phone call hasn't been made from Arsenal to Ancelotti & it may not have appealed to him? Nobody knows!
O' Hara is the same fuckwit who said on radio very recently that Everton as a club are the same size as Wolves! I shouldn't listen to that station really, my own fault!
I am one who would advocate keeping Dunc on until the end of the season as my choice. However what a middle finger up to the Sky 6 fawning media, who are horrified at the thought of a manager of Ancelotti's calibre coming to Everton, if he is unveiled as our next manager.
104 Posted 17/12/2019 at 10:58:07
105 Posted 17/12/2019 at 10:59:44
106 Posted 17/12/2019 at 11:00:58
I'm a big on top players making managers appear better than they are, would Ancelotti get the best out of our players, its no sure thing.
He has only managed clubs for years with players that are largely a class above ours, its very handy for a manager to have players that if the going is tough can produce a goal out of nothing.
Would I want him as Everton manager, a big yes, but only if we give him some of the very best players to manage, I'm sure he would press for that to happen.
As we are now I'd sooner let Dunc. continue to the end of the season and if we could get Ancelotti to start in the summer fine.
107 Posted 17/12/2019 at 11:01:50
108 Posted 17/12/2019 at 11:04:17
Other reports saying he may forego his payment due from Napoli in order to speed up his signing for Everton.
His coaching staff will be: Davide Ancelotti as assistant. Francesco Mauri and Manuel Morabito will be first team coaches. Simone Montanaro as match analyst and Luca Guerra (GPS) and Beniamino Fulco (supervisor).
109 Posted 17/12/2019 at 11:10:54
110 Posted 17/12/2019 at 11:12:27
Thanks for the correction.
But in the words of Laurence Fishburne in The Matrix : "They all look the same to me"
Also, I was there the last 3 years of Moyes.
And to this day, the team that Moyes left behind 11 yrs ago is still the best team we've had thus far.
And he put that team together with spit and gum. The entire team probably cost the same as Moise Kean alone.
And #92 I am.not stoned.
You people became vindictive of Moyes cause he wanted to poach Baines.
111 Posted 17/12/2019 at 11:15:38
We've been shite for decades now and we need to give our heads a wobble if we think any of our dealings are sending tremors across Stanley Park. They've got champions league and winning the title to worry about, not BMD or our next manager. But then again, wtf do I know from the other side of the foam.
112 Posted 17/12/2019 at 11:16:24
113 Posted 17/12/2019 at 11:20:03
114 Posted 17/12/2019 at 11:21:58
We have given the job to enough losers in the past so I don't see him being any worse. Maybe its the challenge of taking a Club like us with massive potential back to were we belong that has him interested.
Are Napoli any bigger than us? Yes they are from his own Country, but being at Napoli maybe a pointer that he fancies this type of challenge. Either way I am happy we believe that a Champion like Ancellotti is within reach and applaud Moshiri for going after him.
115 Posted 17/12/2019 at 11:33:56
I think a lot of people are not happy with Moyes for a bit more than his attempt to poach Baines
116 Posted 17/12/2019 at 11:34:57
117 Posted 17/12/2019 at 11:39:43
My biggest worry is what's going to happen to Big Dunc.
According to some reports he's bringing all his own guys with him. I hope Big Dunc stays with us in some capacity of other to learn from one of the world's top managers.
118 Posted 17/12/2019 at 11:42:14
While I appreciate there is little sentiment in Business or Football, but with due respect to what he has done just in the last two games, it would be almost inhuman just to cast him aside, or have him in a minor role at FF.
I acknowledge Ancelotti would be a great asset but even he could not have produced such a turn around with the squad and results against both Chelsea and Man United.
119 Posted 17/12/2019 at 11:51:44
Is there any real panic to have him in place the next week or two?
120 Posted 17/12/2019 at 12:03:10
The ability to attract top players will be greatly increased.
We also, it seems, will have a manager who will not accept finishing 8th as respectable. He will demand a higher level from our players, and our board. He will not accept 'avoiding the drop' as the target for the season. He will look at the table and say "6 points from 6th with half the season to go"!
We have a manager who will now cower in the prospect of a Merseyside derby (the only manager to beat that lot this season)
And he is not 'past it'.
121 Posted 17/12/2019 at 12:07:33
Will he work with Brands, will Brands work with him, will he want to continue Brands model of buying young, developing and either keeping them or selling at a profit. Not sure Ancelotti will want to go that way at all. What if he wants to buy the likes of HiguaÃn as a proven goal scorer and other 28-30yr old to start his job here.
At the discussions today in London I'm sure Ancelotti will be looking only at Moshiri for decisions, for salary, for transfers, for acceptance of bringing his own staff with him. Brands will cringe at all this, its not his way, and he may walk as well.
122 Posted 17/12/2019 at 12:11:05
123 Posted 17/12/2019 at 12:15:00
It would be a bitter pill to swallow if Ferguson gives the club back its pride and is rewarded with a P45.
124 Posted 17/12/2019 at 12:15:30
125 Posted 17/12/2019 at 12:17:14
Duncan will be back on the cones, won't he? In all seriousness though, I would expect Duncan to continue on the coaching staff as well. It's pretty common practice for top clubs to keep a few links with past players, even when they appoint new managers & staff.
All the top clubs do it, so I doubt much will change for Duncan Ferguson in that regard.
126 Posted 17/12/2019 at 12:20:34
You're surprised by the Usmanov talk? USM Finch Farm? USM = Metalloinvest = Usmanov.
Surely you'd pinned all these things together long ago, or have I missed a meeting? Our new stadium will be built of the finest Russian steel!
127 Posted 17/12/2019 at 12:20:50
There's no way Ancelotti is here to do that. This has all the hallmarks of Moshiri going big. Where he goes if it fails, I don't want to think about. It also looks like Usmanov is involved, which would put us second only to City for rich owners. Maybe Usmanov wants to strike hard whilst Arsenal are reeling. We are just 4 behind Arsenal. Big if, but I'll say it anyway, if we beat Arsenal then we can go just a point behind them. So Usmanov might see the chance to get one over on Kroenke.
Anyway, might not be my first choice, but if we pull this off, and we pull it off properly, and we throw money at it, then we can all start dreaming again.
128 Posted 17/12/2019 at 12:24:17
129 Posted 17/12/2019 at 12:31:11
It will be interesting to see how that plays out officially but Ancelotti must have been given big assurances about budgeting.
130 Posted 17/12/2019 at 12:33:29
131 Posted 17/12/2019 at 12:38:27
132 Posted 17/12/2019 at 12:45:57
Let's see what happens.
133 Posted 17/12/2019 at 12:47:39
134 Posted 17/12/2019 at 12:51:23
I am stunned that some people on here don't want him.
Let us stay with the usual chancers and losers that we are associated with. Mind you he did lose a 3 goal lead in a Champions league final so must be tactically useless.
The guy is football royalty and should be respected.
135 Posted 17/12/2019 at 12:52:02
However, if this is the start of Usmanov really pushing Everton, then there is no matter man to oversee the project than Carlo Ancelotti. He can manage stars, he can attract them to us, and he can put a team together from strangers. At these things, there is no one better in world football. Not Guardiola and not the fella with the big teeth down the road.
He must, absolutely must, get the coaching position nailed on. Carlo is not a coach, and he needs someone who can coach to do this for him. Someone who needs to be suited to where we are and who can understand his vision coach the players to play his way, and to his tactics. Carlo will then be better than even Koeman with in game his tactical tweeks.
136 Posted 17/12/2019 at 12:53:24
137 Posted 17/12/2019 at 12:57:51
We need a manager to stay for a longer period. We need some stability. Hopefully Ancelotti for 4.5 years could be just that.
138 Posted 17/12/2019 at 12:58:14
139 Posted 17/12/2019 at 13:01:15
Steve @ 135, if as you say Carlo is more of a Manager than a coach, surely this has a confliction of interests with Marcel Brands, and who decides on future Transfers, who negotiates them and identifies them?
140 Posted 17/12/2019 at 13:11:16
141 Posted 17/12/2019 at 13:23:18
142 Posted 17/12/2019 at 13:27:06
143 Posted 17/12/2019 at 13:33:50
He's not afraid to take on the likes of Berscoloni ( AC Milan owner and Italian Prime Minster at the time, famous for many altercations with the justice and law systems). He wouldn't stand for any intrusion into how he manages the team and who he picks to play. I seem to remember he likes experienced players at the expense of younger players.
He likes to drink, did smoke, likes fine dining and relaxing away from the limelight. Likely to do a Koeman and take time off and leave training to his coaching team.
If he takes it, watch out for Brands role, going to be interesting next 12-18 months
144 Posted 17/12/2019 at 13:39:41
145 Posted 17/12/2019 at 13:44:45
146 Posted 17/12/2019 at 13:51:08
147 Posted 17/12/2019 at 14:05:55
Utd,they broke Liverpools dominance,Man City broke Man Utd.
Liverpool look like there having a little go now, breaking Man City.
So Utd,Liverpool, Man City.
Do you think Ancelotti thinks he wants a challenge.
Everton to break into a bit of Premier League,An FA Cup,A Champions League run.
Carlo Ancelotti has won more trophies than Everton have in their whole 141 year history.
He is a football man,a genius in his hey day.
So what did Usminov tell him this week in Italy,that money isn't an obsticle.
He is coming to get between City,Liverpool,Utd thats why its four and a half years.
Big mistake though if he don't have a role at Everton for Duncan Ferguson.
Even if it only £1 million to stand in the Glady's St on match days and go to.away games whip up the natives,give em a pep talk before they go out.
Its a project now if he comes.
148 Posted 17/12/2019 at 14:08:56
149 Posted 17/12/2019 at 14:10:15
His backroom team includes Davide Ancelotti, his son, who is head of fitness. Then there is his daughter's husband, Mino Fulco, who is head of nutrition. Nothing wrong with a bit of nepotism if they are capable as this means they will all be on the same page working hard for the same goal. As I said, as long as they are capable. The big question is who will be the chief coach? Paul Clement?
He picked Clement up from what Mourinho left behind at Chelsea. At Bayern he used Hermann Gerland who Guardiola himself had inherited. So definitely a role for Ferguson, but with Silva's team gone, there is a definite vacancy for a chief coach.
I think Everton have had this in mind all along. Nothing has been rushed here. Everton got rid of Bruno Mendes. Usually you would leave a guy like that in place. His job is to prevent injury. He is not part of the Silva inner circle and had never worked with him before, instead he was poached from Benfica where he set up the famed "Benfica Lab". For example, when Big Sam was fired, Everton kept on Ryland Morgans until Bruno Mendes came in.
Carlo Ancelotti takes the same duo, again father and son, Giovanni and Francesco Mauri, wherever he goes. These are the duo though, who got so much flack for their lack of intensity (compared to Pep Guardiola) at Bayern with Robben leading the criticism saying his son's (youth team) coaches were better. However, Cristiano Ronaldo Aveiro has been complementary about them in the past.
150 Posted 17/12/2019 at 14:35:12
So will Brands attune his scouting system to pursue experienced 26-30yr olds, costing a fortune and lasting 2-4 years, and will Moshiri really cough up mega mega millions ?
This Usmanov link is intriguing, is he about to buy into Everton in a big way. Or is it just paper talk - hope not just talk, as Usmanov's money will be required big time.
Brands - he'll either stay and continue his reshaping of our academy and youth system (Unsworth likely to go !) hoping we'll get 2-3 top class players in 3-4 years or he'll not fancy working effectively for Ancelotti, as Ancelotti wont work for him.
151 Posted 17/12/2019 at 14:43:12
152 Posted 17/12/2019 at 14:44:20
Also, Carlo Ancelotti has always had the option to buy for the here and now, but has always been under pressure to produce immediate results. Perhaps, with a more relaxed and longer term project at Everton, he will not be just in for the here and now type players? Time will tell.
As for Unsworth, I believe he's taking the Wigan job or indeed off at the end of the season to get a manager's job for himself.
153 Posted 17/12/2019 at 14:44:27
I hope that everything that is being reported regarding DF's future doesn't result in him being squeezed out, or reduced to a bit part after 6 months!
154 Posted 17/12/2019 at 14:49:48
As above, don't misread the "assistant" role, he is an assistant coach and not an assistant manager. He's 30 now. Also see above that Ancelotti also employs his daughter's husband. Then his main fitness coach comes in a pair with his own son.
Ancelotti is better than most managers at integrating with existing regimes. He did just that at Chelsea, and has since often utilised Paul Clement, as well as at Bayern and Napoli.
155 Posted 17/12/2019 at 14:53:32
Source: Sky Italy
Therefore, take it with a massive fuck-off lorry-full of salt.
157 Posted 17/12/2019 at 15:04:51
Thanks for the link.
Makes more sense now re DF's future, if what we hear is accurate, rather than media gossip/hype.
158 Posted 17/12/2019 at 15:05:38
159 Posted 17/12/2019 at 15:11:54
We're going to redouble our efforts to buy success. I'll sell my soul for that, I'm afraid.
160 Posted 17/12/2019 at 15:13:40
But if it proves to be too much of a challenge, please don't lets have all the excuses trotted out such as those uttered by Steve Ferns in the cause of the last 'wonder coach'. We're already hearing this one is the best man in the business and although he would hardly be here if that were still true, we've got to have faith that SOMEBODY can get us back to the position we were in before the money men took over !
So however successful the new guy has been elsewhere, he should be have it made clear that he's here to win football matches as well as build up the family pension fund FULL STOP.
161 Posted 17/12/2019 at 15:23:22
162 Posted 17/12/2019 at 15:24:22
163 Posted 17/12/2019 at 15:25:06
Not too bad a price if its all done and dusted!
That's on Betfair exchange.
164 Posted 17/12/2019 at 15:26:18
165 Posted 17/12/2019 at 15:27:21
166 Posted 17/12/2019 at 15:28:23
167 Posted 17/12/2019 at 15:33:05
168 Posted 17/12/2019 at 15:33:21
If I believe SSN and put a bet on Ancelloti to be the next manager and it doesn't transpire, Sky bet would be the benefactor. Or is it caveat emptor?
169 Posted 17/12/2019 at 15:34:20
170 Posted 17/12/2019 at 15:36:33
We all know what a liar he is.
171 Posted 17/12/2019 at 15:43:03
Happy days if this happens.
172 Posted 17/12/2019 at 15:43:04
I look forward to those in the know explaining ffp.
173 Posted 17/12/2019 at 15:48:24
As bad as Everton have been this season it's hard to say that we are closer to being successful than we have been in in decades but we are. We have the ability to put a good eleven on the pitch but we still have a weak squad. Ancelotti will attract players who will fill out the squad and I'm praying that Everton players in the near future will be physically fit enough to play for 90 odd minutes.
I'm over the moon for this to happen. When he signs it will not be a new chapter in the In Everton history, it will be a new book in an entirely different library.
But for gods sake give him a PR guy to work beside him from day one.
174 Posted 17/12/2019 at 15:50:24
It's a case of pulling the draw bridge up after yourself, and closes the elite off from the rest.
175 Posted 17/12/2019 at 15:53:58
176 Posted 17/12/2019 at 15:55:05
177 Posted 17/12/2019 at 15:58:41
Most of all, even if he comes and if it doesn't work out, we simply can't turn down the opportunity to bring someone of his pedigree in and instead go for yet another “maybe manâ€ like Howe, Arteta or Wilder, we've done it 3 times now and it's got progressively worse. I don't think I have ever been so excited about a potential Everton signing in all my 45 years !
178 Posted 17/12/2019 at 16:00:09
Ancelotti is 1/9 to be our manager.
179 Posted 17/12/2019 at 16:07:23
180 Posted 17/12/2019 at 16:10:54
181 Posted 17/12/2019 at 16:19:37
The 1/9 on Betfair is to a pittance.
182 Posted 17/12/2019 at 16:27:36
Ancelotti will come in and say "6points off 6th and half a season,.and a transfer window, to go"
I know what mentality I want.
And what's the point of a hands on coach if his in game management is crap.
183 Posted 17/12/2019 at 16:27:37
It would really be a statement.
184 Posted 17/12/2019 at 16:36:18
The obsessive focus of such people on relegation fights is utterly out of kilter with our true habitual position in the Premier League. They need to get a grip and focus on the real world, and develop a winning mentality.
185 Posted 17/12/2019 at 16:45:32
Him & Don Carlo are close.
186 Posted 17/12/2019 at 16:56:21
I get the excitement about a serial winner like Carlo and if he is really up for this then great. But could he be another Koeman, not buying into the club, absent a lot of the time and not really all that bothered?
This is where we have to put our faith in the team who are working to bring him in. If he comes I hope he will give young players a chance as I am not overly keen on watching a bunch of mercenaries who don't care as long as they get paid- we've had way too many of them since Moyes left.
As for Usmanov look at the facts. Huge project at £500m plus for stadium, other potential investment to be created in the area and he sells his stake in Arsenal- why?? He is a highly successful businessman who is best mates and business partner with our owner. He wanted to run a PL club but couldn't at Arsenal. Two plus two = ??
187 Posted 17/12/2019 at 16:57:58
188 Posted 17/12/2019 at 17:01:13
189 Posted 17/12/2019 at 17:09:51
I certainly don't see any down side at all, and just think of the education that Duncan will get working under Ancelotti. Interesting that there was talk of Usmanov being at the meeting to persuade Ancelotti to sign for us.
Maybe after years of hearing that we cant attract top managers and top players because we are plucky little Everton. I think that is about to change big time.
190 Posted 17/12/2019 at 17:18:01
191 Posted 17/12/2019 at 17:20:08
Give him the players he needs and he'll deliver hopefully.
192 Posted 17/12/2019 at 17:25:40
193 Posted 17/12/2019 at 17:29:02
195 Posted 17/12/2019 at 17:45:07
There has to be a link with Ancelotti becoming one of the best managers in the world,a four year deal.A £500 million new stadium,probably ending up £650million and Mr Usmanov.??
As said he isn't coming for a bag of crisps and kit kat.
He will almost certainly have been told he has a war chest to assemble a top side.God knows how much that is but lets just hope its him choosing who we buy not Mr Brands.
Guess he will Mr Brands will be told who to buy,how long he will stay now is anybodies guess.
Is Mr Moshiri going to sell out to Alisher Usmanov,has Boris told him hes fine to come back to the UK now.???
If its A Usmanov we can compete with City, Utd,RS anyone.
But its a team we want and one that plays the way that exites us.
Lets hope its going to happen.
Assisstant managers Ancelotti Jr and Duncan Ferguson would be perfect.Motivational Coach.
196 Posted 17/12/2019 at 17:50:13
You don't need to work daft long hours to be successful, you need to be good. I've got no problem with overseer managers, providing they give the team direction, tactical tweaks and motivation. The fact that Silva worked long hours while producing insipid, purposeless football with a poor points tally tells me everything. Maybe he worked long hours because he couldn't work things out?
This is Moshiri having a go, trying to make us better. I find it odd that so many on here are fearful of it.
197 Posted 17/12/2019 at 18:02:06
198 Posted 17/12/2019 at 18:11:11
199 Posted 17/12/2019 at 18:17:13
200 Posted 17/12/2019 at 18:22:19
201 Posted 17/12/2019 at 18:24:21
202 Posted 17/12/2019 at 18:49:03
The man is a class act and we have got to rejoice at his willingness to come and embrace the project. Usmanov's involvment has got to be the factor here I think over the next year or two this will be come more formal.
Carlo Ancelotti wont be motivated entirely by money, he will be up for the challenge, it's something new and will be rewarding for him big time if he gets success for us. It will be a new type of success and the reward will be sweeter, maybe just the thing that is getting his juices flowing.
203 Posted 17/12/2019 at 19:22:17
Thats how trendy you have to be these days.
Just like when he went to Leicester, the first answer you would get is, he is finished now. A manager finished?
Somehow another perfectly normal statement these days.
204 Posted 17/12/2019 at 19:31:48
He never hangs around. What about a legacy? A framework for the future? How are we going to build a base with a foreign mercenary manager?
205 Posted 17/12/2019 at 19:34:37
206 Posted 17/12/2019 at 19:35:21
207 Posted 17/12/2019 at 19:38:22
Carlo Ancelotti agrees four-and-a-half-year contract to become Everton head coach.
Ancelotti's son, Davide, to be assistant at Goodison Park alongside current caretaker Duncan Ferguson
208 Posted 17/12/2019 at 19:44:31
I was behind him all the time - my No.1 choice. C'mon Carlo!!!
209 Posted 17/12/2019 at 19:51:02
210 Posted 17/12/2019 at 19:54:30
211 Posted 17/12/2019 at 20:10:14
213 Posted 17/12/2019 at 20:17:43
214 Posted 17/12/2019 at 20:21:56
I'd rather Mancini the Italian manager in the summer, but I've wanted him for years and it's not my money or choice.
What he would bring is good experience of the Premier League and success elsewhere.
Hopefully he can bring in a top-class defender who's also a real leader as captain and sort sorry Kean out.
Far better than Silva, Sam and Koeman, at least on paper.
However I hope the rumours of Holgate being sold are nonsense. He's been my MotM the last few games.
215 Posted 17/12/2019 at 20:26:57
216 Posted 17/12/2019 at 20:27:13
217 Posted 17/12/2019 at 20:27:52
There is some strange reasoning going on these threads concerning the suitability of Ancelotti.
You prefer Mancini because he has won in England, just like Ancelotti, and what else ??
Please explain, I'm confused about the negativity surrounding Ancelotti.
219 Posted 17/12/2019 at 20:59:46
I have seen ups and downs after watching the Blues for over 70 years. During that time, I have always remained positive. What is the point of watching your team if all you see is negative?
We may have signed a world class manager, but to some he may not be the right "world class manager". Everybody has the right to their own opinion.
Personally I would have been delighted if Ferguson had been put in charge. However, I consider Ancellotti to be the very best available and welcome him and anybody else who is prepared to manage MY team and YOUR team. Just stop complaining!!!
220 Posted 17/12/2019 at 21:10:46
221 Posted 17/12/2019 at 21:13:57
222 Posted 17/12/2019 at 21:18:03
223 Posted 17/12/2019 at 21:21:57
If your wife treated you like Moyes treated Everton and us fans, would you have her back?
224 Posted 17/12/2019 at 21:32:57
225 Posted 17/12/2019 at 21:39:21
226 Posted 17/12/2019 at 21:43:26
227 Posted 17/12/2019 at 21:54:24
Carlo, if he does indeed come, will be signing up to one of the biggest clubs in Europe. Think that's an over statement? Rated 17th in football rich list in 2019. 17th in the world!!! This guy has managed 6 other teams in the top 20. He is the calibre of manager we should expect.
As for working with Brands, who wouldn't want to have a top level class ache in charge of the team? Brands job is to provide that coach with the best resources available. So long sad they have a good working relationship it should be a great combo, imagine the contacts the two have between them.
228 Posted 17/12/2019 at 22:17:45
229 Posted 17/12/2019 at 22:38:14
Maybe it shows the gulf in ambition between the current Arsenal set up and the present Everton regime. Arsenal have been run as a money making enterprise for some years now, with Wenger as the willing provider of the profits for a grateful Kroenke. Apart from, arguably, their two forwards Arsenal are no better than us. Something I hope we can show them at the weekend.
230 Posted 17/12/2019 at 23:28:24
231 Posted 17/12/2019 at 23:56:58
Is there enough space for all of this, for Mr Ancelotti and his entourage to fit in coherently among current vested interests? We don't do coherence at Everton but we'll have to start now.
I imagine Ancelotti may be having similar thoughts, Usmanov or not. I'll believe it when he's here. And then I'll close my eyes and pray very hard.
232 Posted 17/12/2019 at 23:59:17
Don't see why Carlo will suddenly decide to simply take the money and coast to retirement. If he was simply after money he could probably get more in a less pressured environment like China.
So if he gels and we get a couple of significant signings early doors then we may actually start to build something. If he signs.
233 Posted 17/12/2019 at 00:02:02
Blah always happens and amazingly they're still here!
234 Posted 17/12/2019 at 00:15:09
235 Posted 18/12/2019 at 05:46:00
I can assure you they do not want him in any way shape, or form. He is yesterdays man and a total dinosaur.
236 Posted 18/12/2019 at 08:07:56
It cannot be denied that this man has a pretty impressive CV and what's more, he has proved it, with many different teams. Still, I will totally believe it only when he is pictured at Finch Farm.
238 Posted 19/12/2019 at 15:48:48
239 Posted 19/12/2019 at 16:36:54
It seems to me that a lot people have some fantastical vision of who the manager should be. Someone that basically doesn't exist.
Carlo Ancelotti. You support Everton. Put those 2 things together and just have a think about that.
As someone said on Twitter, it's a bit like Robert De Niro taking a part on Corrie.
Ain't that the truth.
240 Posted 19/12/2019 at 16:55:27
But there again some of the biggest names have appeared on Corrie. William Kenwright- that's 16 letters.
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