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Dave Abrahams
1 Posted 22/09/2019 at 17:32:50
Very disappointing for most Blues watching the game yesterday, more so for fans like yourself, Dave, who travel great distances to watch our team.

I hope your next trip is much more rewarding but Silva seems to be a very stubborn man and it doesn't look like he will change his tactics, which are not working and his substitutions seem to puzzle most of us including the players, and they rarely alter the result, except maybe to make it worse.

Glad you got home safe.

Mike Galley
2 Posted 22/09/2019 at 17:52:24
1st of all Dave, we’ll done travelling that sort of distance to watch this rubbish. I have to travel from Kirkby and sometimes wonder if it’s worth it!!
There may be trouble ahead? I think the trouble is here now. The fan base seems to have turned on the manager. I initially thought when Marco was appointed he should be given three seasons and I still don’t think we should sack him. But I’m having a hard time coming up with reasons to keep right now!
Pete Fishwick
3 Posted 22/09/2019 at 18:41:10
If ever there was a season to start on the front foot it was this one with how the fixtures panned out and Sheffield should have been another scalp yesterday- This just isn't good enough - Agree with previous posters respect to you and other Evertonians who travel them sort of distances to be served that - you deserve a refund, the players and the manager don't deserve their wages this week. The pressure is surely building After what City did yesterday fear for that game, but as we all know Everton can often turn up for these types of games and then detract from the cores issues.
Joey Crawley
4 Posted 22/09/2019 at 18:45:44
I’d say we need to remember how we finished off last season, not how we started it, then remember how our DOF is responsible for bringing the players in and letting ones go, Silva is working with what he has at his disposal, and though we look stronger on paper, we have not replaced Gana, don’t think we ever will, we should have kept Jags, we should have bought a beast of a striker with credentials to work along side Keane, we shoulda woulda coulda done a lot of things differently this summer and now I suspect too many cooks are spoiling our broth, Silva may be the head chef so he needs to get all Gordon Ramsey on his lot and start gettin the f’in orders out the kitchen before his ingredients start spoiling, Nil Satis Nisi Optimum you bafoooons!
Michael Williams
5 Posted 22/09/2019 at 18:53:33
Thanks for the positive comments David, and as always good to see you in your suit!

It was a long day yesterday not helped by the blip by our coach operators on way home. I have raised this with their management team and hope for a resolution of sorts or an apology at worst.

I got in just before midnight having been up since just after the time you fell asleep at 3am as it happens as I have to walk my dog before her indoors lets me out the door. He hates it and tries to snuggle deeper into his basket when he sees me don the headtorch!

It is a bloody long day travelling from the West Country to Goodison and it is made even worse by such a display.

48 of us will be on our coach next Saturday again full of optimism. how will our journey home be.....you will decide that EFC!

Mike Williams
Tkt Sec Westcountry Blues

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John Keating
6 Posted 22/09/2019 at 19:03:09
Dave
well done to you and all the other boys and girls who travel from all over t great expense and time to watch these wasters. I don't think I would have lasted.

There well may be trouble ahead unless Silva has a good look at himself.

His tactics, team selection, substitutions and demeanour leave a lot to be desired. His reluctance to change what is surely a defunct system is not only pathetic but amateurish in the extreme. You wouldn't see substitutions like that in the park on a Sunday.

I mentioned during the Martinez and Koeman reigns and I believe it is even more apt with this present idiot...… losing like winning becomes a habit.

Having no obvious leaders on the pitch and a manager who can't motivate himself let alone his players, is a recipe for disaster.

Darren Hind
7 Posted 22/09/2019 at 19:06:37
Nice post Dave.

I would probably take 1 off most of your player marks, but that was pretty much the way I saw it too.

Just one thing; "A good pint of Carling" ? are you sure ?
I suspect you are letting the price go straight to your taste buds

Graham Coldron
8 Posted 22/09/2019 at 19:07:15
Fair play to all those Blues who travel a long way to the game.I drive down from Blyth in the North East and generally get home around nine.Needless to say after a performance that we all witnessed on Saturday the drive home seems never ending unlike when we win when it's a doddle.Lose on Tuesday and the pressure on Silva will increase ten fold.I've a sneaky feeling Mourhinio will be strongly linked if things get worse.
Bill Watson
9 Posted 22/09/2019 at 19:19:09
Joey #4

Yes, I remember how we finished the season and the signs were good that Silva had sorted himself and the team. But in amongst those good results were the capitulations at Newcastle and Fulham and that's the form we have brought into this season.

Silva seems incapable of changing so the poor team selections and chaotic substitutions (which never work) will continue.

I'll be there on Tuesday, as I was at Bournemouth last week, but I'm done with this manager. He's nowhere near good enough.

Dave Williams
10 Posted 22/09/2019 at 19:21:00
Darren- it really was surpringly good- very cold and a lot livelier than the team was!
But you’re right, the price did it!!
Derek Knox
11 Posted 22/09/2019 at 20:02:17
Good article Dave, I do admire you guys who travel all that way to see our beloved blues, but what a let down, if only the team could match your efforts (collectively that is) maybe we would be seeing more wins.
Andy Crooks
12 Posted 22/09/2019 at 21:20:28
Great post, Dave. Well done to you and the others. I just wish every player and their utterly lamentable coach were forced to read it.
Frank Wade
13 Posted 22/09/2019 at 22:06:07
I can empathise Dave as I travelled over with my son and daughter from Dublin on Friday afternoon flight to Manchester and home from John Lennon late last night. Flight is only 30 mins so probably an easier journey than the long stretch by bus but result and disappointment were the same, a very frustrating performance. Lucky that a couple of fans were no-shows in our row, so we could move a few seats and see the pitch rather than look at a pillar. I only get over twice a season so was anxious to get a look at the whole picture and not just what is visible from streams and TV and when you've seen one pillar, you've seem them all. It's an expensive weekend for what's on show. I spoke to another fan on the plane and he said that unfortunately his view was not restricted this time.

Consensus was that we were too one-dimensional, predictable and moved the ball much too slowly to unduly discommode a well organised defensive set up, who had little interest in committing numbers forward. Our tactic of moving the ball from wing to wing, often back via the back four to swap wings is very tedious. A better solution would be to mix it up with movement up the middle from time to time and move it quicker. At one stage in the first half Richarlison moved smartly up the middle, was confronted by a Sheffield player about 30 yards out and rather than press forward by taking him or or trying a one two with Kean, he elected to play wide left to Bernard. Then, as with most crosses, we are vastly outnumbered in the box when the cross eventually arrives and the ball is cleared. This is Plan A. I didn't see a Plan B. Plan B is when we are playing a top club who commit men forward and we can hit them on the counter.

I would agree and disagree with your evaluation of Sigurdsson. I kept a close watch on Sigurdsson when we had the ball at centre back, full back or midfield. Yesterday, he made several little runs into the 'hole' finding himself space to do damage, but the ball never came as the passer was anxiously pursuing Plan A. True, he didn't have much impact on the game, but he was trying hard to influence matters. This is the kind of movement that's hard to spot on TV.

In Richarlison, we have a Brazilian international. He was up against Enda Stevens who was playing for Shamrock Rovers a few years ago. Richarlison should be able to put Stevens under constant pressure, but it never happened. I'd like to see him move infield or through inside right channel more and leave more space for Coleman on the wing, or move wide later in the move rather than reduce the space as he seems to do.

I see your comments on delivery from Coleman and Digne, but we were outnumbered two to one on most crosses. If it's going to be all about crosses against these cautious teams, we have to play DCL up front, with a man playing off him and make sure we have a forward getting across the first defender. No point in having a No 10 as he is starved of possession no matter what positions he takes up. In fairness to Sigurdsson, he is by far the hardest worker in the side, now that Gana has moved on.

Jerome Shields
14 Posted 22/09/2019 at 22:15:00
Was at Torquay last week for the first time, found it disappointing, prefer Minehead, Don't know about the nightlife way past my bedtime, Glad your daughter enjoyed it , You deserve credit for your dedication and as suggested the players and Manager should hold their heads in shame for serving you up that display,

Interesting your observations on Siguardsson and suggesting his disappearance is unexplained, I thought he was denied space by the opposition backline pushing up and failed high press , but that might not be the case, Also interesting comments on ineffectiveness of Tosun and Walcott , Three players missing during a game isn't good , I wonder if stats of a game are discussed with players and are they asked to explained their performance,

Thank you for your informative analysis,

Frank Wade
15 Posted 22/09/2019 at 22:32:44
Jerome, the official site has a match centre and the player stats were available to see there for past few seasons. However this season, when you go in to select the individual player stats, the display disappears. I flagged this. Maybe it's a new club mushroom based strategy for the fans. One stat you could never see is the running off the ball, into a position to receive a pass when we are in possession or in covering runs when the opposition has the ball. Would like to see those stats for Sigurdsson.
David Pearl
16 Posted 22/09/2019 at 22:51:09
Ouch. Long trip to watch that Dave. Its funny how we see the game "from my seat' or armchair. Whether we look and follow the movements of certain players or see the transitions from attack to defence. Do we see anything that's come straight from the training ground. Or does it look like the players have even met before. Was l dreaming or did we score a goal from a free kick last season from a well worked training ground routine... l think Walcott scored it or had a hand in it. Anyway... hope the next trip you take Dave is more fruitful. It took Silva 2 months to fix our last slump. Moyes would have us out of a funk in a game or two. Lets see how long this one takes.
Dave Williams
17 Posted 22/09/2019 at 23:27:13
Jerome- Torquay as a town is sadly in decline and has been for years. The sea front promenade is still nice but nightlife is rougher than the likes of the Babalou and Beachcomber which I used to frequent in Liverpool. Emily is five feet nothing and a Kylie Minogue build so it’s always a bit of a worry. Driving to the game would have been a big no-no after 3 hours kip so thank heaven for the supporters club which makes it easy.
It’s bad enough doing the trip a few times a season like I do but most of the people on the coach have season tickets so do the trip every fortnight. Some are off to Sheffield on Tuesday then back up to Goodison for City on Saturday. These are truly dedicated fans and put the players to shame.
Jay Harris
18 Posted 22/09/2019 at 00:19:44
Oh Dave,
The Babalou and the beachcomber now that brings back fond memories.

The Bab used to shut at 1am so we used to then go to the Beachy which was open until 2am.

I would much sooner reminisce about them than when we were a successful club as it pains so much to see how far we have fallen since Sir John passed away.

Ron Marr
19 Posted 23/09/2019 at 02:56:48
I went to the Babalou, and the Grafton, Toad Hall in Ainsdale, Somewhere Else club in Southport and Wigan Casino. Toad Hall was frequented by players from both teams. I saw Joe Royle, Keegan and Toshack at the club.
Jack Convery
20 Posted 23/09/2019 at 03:56:50
Bring Fuzz with you next time and let him run a cross the pitch - would bring some light relief to desperate Evertonians needing something to smile about. I admire your loyalty and passion for EFC I just hope its not being taken for granted by the powers that be. Also you live in a beautiful county - many a holiday spent in Devon / Dorset way - particularly love East Devon, the pubs, the food, he River Exe, Beer, Sidmouth great memories.
Dave Williams
21 Posted 23/09/2019 at 09:25:12
Jay- Toad Hall was a fave of mine. I was living in Bromborough on the Wirral and Toad Hall was around an hour drive but a great place to take a new girlfriend to impress- as you say a lot of the players would go there after a game.
Samantha’s playground was good in the city, the She was great for a stag night and Rupert in Birkenhead was my local club where I would go 2/3 times a week.
I remember being in Rupert relatively early one night when we were replaying the league cup final against Villa. We were 2-1 down when we left the car and ordered at the bar all very depressed at having lost the final. Just as the first beer was on its way down we equalised, the whole room erupted, my pint went over my girlfriends dress and absolute pandemonium ensued ( mostly from my girlfriend with her soaked dress). What great days they were, when Bobby Latchford walked on water!
Phil Lewis
22 Posted 23/09/2019 at 09:45:20
I am perpetually fascinated when people eulogise with statistics, tactical critique and deep analytical formulae of certain players performances.
Allow me to make mine of Sigurrdson...
He has no brain and he's got no balls.
Dave Williams
23 Posted 23/09/2019 at 09:57:12
#21 I think it was 1-0 down and we equalised very late on?
Jerome Shields
24 Posted 23/09/2019 at 10:42:17
David #17

I thought Torquay was over developed, whilst Minehead had not developed as much and maintained it's traditional nostalgia, Southport would beat both of them,

Torquay isn't the only place where the nightlife is rougher, most places are now, I use to worry about my daughter who is 9 st, until she told me she had to sort out some guy and bring him to the bouncer to throw out, She is a teacher now and as no trouble with class discipline,

The Supporters Club do get work and deserve better,

Steve Hogan
25 Posted 23/09/2019 at 12:42:30
Dave, I can't argue with anything you have put in your match report/day out. Silva got almost everything wrong on the day, team selection,tactics, substitutions, the full monty.

The worrying thing is, virtually everyone in the ground could see it, except our highly qualified, experienced, UEFA certified manager.

I'm just not sure he has the ability or perception to change things, £319m spent in last three season's and we don't seem to be anywhere near our objective of challenging for a 'top six' position.

I'm not sure where we go from here.

I take my hat off to you and the rest of the coach party in taking in a massive day trip in terms of time and mileage.

Keep the faith.

Steve Hogan
26 Posted 23/09/2019 at 12:53:19
By the way Dave, one small consolation is you live in the best part of the UK as far as I am concerned. I/we have been travelling to the West Country for 40 years, I've pretty much travelled all over the UK in my work and Devon/Cornwall still remains our favourite UK region.

We often stay in Dittisham (not far from you) and still love the dwindling number of 'old hippies' who frequent Totnes market on Saturday.

Ooopps, getting all misty eyed just thinking about it.

By the way, think your a similar age to me, did you ever get to the Martin's Inn on a Sunday night? Top totty night.

Dave Williams
27 Posted 23/09/2019 at 16:16:50
Steve- Totnes is certainly a different world!
I’m 64 but can’t recall Martins Inn and should do if it was a place for Top Totty. Where was it?
Steve Hogan
28 Posted 23/09/2019 at 17:06:04
Dave, i'm 63 and me and my mate Steve used to drive there in his lime green (hand painted) Triumph Herald on Sunday night's.

It was an old pub right out in the sticks between Ormskirk and Scarisbrick. Failing that, we used to go the Sands opposite Pontins in Ainsdale, now I'm pretty sure you will remember that, all around circa 1977.

We used to have to disguise our 'scouse' accents to get in

Dave Williams
29 Posted 23/09/2019 at 19:25:57
Steve, I never heard of Martins but went to the Sands several times. My best mate hit it off with a young lady there one evening and drove onto Ainsdale beach for some “peace and quiet”. Having done the deed, he found that he had a flat tyre and of course his car jack was useless on the sand – you could say he couldn't get it (the car) up!!

An embarrassing call to the AA ensued and he never made that mistake again!!

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