Government gives Everton the green light for Bramley-Moore Dock

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Everton's plans to develop a new stadium at Bramley-Moore Dock can proceed after the Club's planning application received government approval.

It follows the unanimous decision by Liverpool City Council last month to grant permission for Everton to build a 52,888-seat ground on the north docks site.

The Secretary of State for Housing, Communities and Local Government, Robert Jenrick, had asked for more time than the statutory 21-day review period to assess the plans but he and his department have agreed with the LCC that the Bramley-Moore Dock project would provide a boon to the city of Liverpool and the Merseyside area.

Everton, who hope to begin construction work this summer, estimate that the stadium will pull in £1.3bn worth of revenue to the Merseyside area.

The club's first step will be to formally purchase the site from Peel Holdings for £22m and confirm Laing O'Rourke as the preferred contractor to move ahead with a final construction schedule.

The exact details of how the estimated £500m development will be funded have yet to be finalised but Everton owner, Farhad Moshiri has committed to sourcing private investment and sponsorship in preference to a funding model that was initially floated involving the Council.  

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Chris James
1 Posted 26/03/2021 at 13:37:41
Great stuff.

To be honest, I would've been amazed if the government had held up any UK investment/development projects of any kind, especially in the North. Post-Brexit and post-Covid, they need every bit of help / economic activity they can get.

Stephen Vincent
2 Posted 26/03/2021 at 13:38:47
I'll get my spade.

Seriously, this is wonderful news. I had expected it to drag on for a while.

Colin Glassar
3 Posted 26/03/2021 at 13:41:20
Great news. I’ve got a wheel barrow and a spade for the right price!!
Kim Vivian
4 Posted 26/03/2021 at 13:41:51
Great been waiting...

Gi's a job, Mosh – go on, gi's a job. I can do that.

James Newcombe
5 Posted 26/03/2021 at 13:42:35
It's happening, lads! The pride of Merseyside!
Allen Rodgers
6 Posted 26/03/2021 at 13:42:45
Get innnnnnn!
Tony Shelby
7 Posted 26/03/2021 at 13:43:23
Fucking yessssssss!!!
George McKane
8 Posted 26/03/2021 at 13:43:44
Definitely – I have just had a call to go on Capital Radio at 2:00pm to discuss the good news.
Steve Dickinson
9 Posted 26/03/2021 at 13:46:48
It’s happening. Fantastic news! Can’t wait to choose our new seats.
John Crook
10 Posted 26/03/2021 at 13:49:11
Finally!!! Time for the club to step into the 21st century (in 2024?) 24 years too late?

But this is amazing news and I look forward to every month of progress in seeing the stadium go from Kenwright and Moshiri sticking the spade in the ground to the final blue ribbon being cut upon completion. I kind of wish I worked in architecture or construction so I could get involved!

Jay Wood

11 Posted 26/03/2021 at 13:50:49
'We're on the march, we're Moshi's Army, we're all goin' to BMD'

Brilliant news. Nice to see it over the line so quickly.

Thomas Richards
12 Posted 26/03/2021 at 13:51:53
Let's not forget the part Liverpool City Council played in getting this approved.
Derek Moore
13 Posted 26/03/2021 at 13:52:21
Timing is everything, and this time the club's was impeccable. This is the right project at the right time.

This is wonderful and exciting news. But can I just quickly thank (again!) all the true Blues who fought the proposed move to the Tescodome at Kirkby. Without them, we would simply not be celebrating this news right now.

Nil saitis nisi optimum. Good things seem to happen when you don't just pay lip service to those words but actually endeavour to run a football club that way!

David Chait
14 Posted 26/03/2021 at 13:55:27
Brilliant news!! Has Moshiri ringfenced the money yet?
Kunal Desai
15 Posted 26/03/2021 at 13:55:50
Great news, let's get cracking!
Steve Stallwood
16 Posted 26/03/2021 at 13:55:55
Great news, after the removal of Elstone, the club have handled this very well. Get it built quickly please, I'm getting old and want to see it!!
John Raftery
17 Posted 26/03/2021 at 13:55:55
It was always a routine decision. One to clear off the minister’s desk before the Easter break. Fantastic to get confirmation now than have to wait several more weeks.
Pete Williams
18 Posted 26/03/2021 at 13:57:19
That's a lot quicker than is usually the case with Government decisions, but it means UNESCO and Historic England can sling their little hooks. Now Everton can start building the iconic new stadium.

Thanks, Mr Jenrick, for scoring that open goal. Onwards and upwards!

Soren Moyer
19 Posted 26/03/2021 at 14:00:50
Hot damn! Another good news is that Niasse has signed for Huddersfield 🙂!!
John Raftery
20 Posted 26/03/2021 at 14:04:09
Is this another example of a stadium update after three successive defeats! (Joke!)
Paul Hughes
21 Posted 26/03/2021 at 14:08:07
Great news! That will hopefully keep all the naysayers quiet. Get it built!!!!
Barry Rathbone
22 Posted 26/03/2021 at 14:08:18
Although the design isn't my cup of tea and new build footy grounds tend to bring as much luck as a broken mirror, the decision provides impetus and focus for the club and fans. The vast majority see it as something to look forward to and that's no bad thing – good news. (All fingers crossed!!)
Stephen Brown
23 Posted 26/03/2021 at 14:08:36
This could genuinely be a turning point?!

Big-time potential!

George McKane
24 Posted 26/03/2021 at 14:08:39
Just finished my interview on Capital Radio — all positive.
Frank Wade
25 Posted 26/03/2021 at 14:09:21
Brilliant news. I was worried the Liverpool Council shenanigans could lead to a further investigation into the granting of their approval. Only 3 years to wait before I can get to a match without a pole blocking my view.
Ian Bennett
26 Posted 26/03/2021 at 14:10:26
There has been so many false dawns on the ground move. We will all believe it when we are sat in it – but this looks too good an opportunity not to fuck up.
Dave Williams
27 Posted 26/03/2021 at 14:11:08
Any comment from Jonathan “a spade will never go in the ground” Tasker?? Hope you can agree it's brilliant news, Jonathan!

Well done to all involved.

Jerome Shields
28 Posted 26/03/2021 at 14:11:48
Great News. Moshiri is on the way at last. Good luck to Niasse at Huddersfield. I actually thought he would be an asset to the Public Relations department commercially at Everton, on a one-year contract.
Ian Pilkington
29 Posted 26/03/2021 at 14:14:54
A huge landmark in the history of EFC.
Alan McGuffog
30 Posted 26/03/2021 at 14:15:12
Ian... if anyone can banjax it at this stage, EFC can. (Gentle humour...)
Dennis Stevens
31 Posted 26/03/2021 at 14:16:04
How d'you know the guy blocking your view is Polish, Frank? #25
Pete Williams
32 Posted 26/03/2021 at 14:16:50
I remember how incredible it was to see the Main Stand go up at Goodison Park. I can't wait to see a whole new stadium go up! No bloody posts in the way, I hope.
Alan McGuffog
33 Posted 26/03/2021 at 14:18:55
Frank...before you accuse people you should Czech
Steve Brown
34 Posted 26/03/2021 at 14:21:11
Steve Ferns
35 Posted 26/03/2021 at 14:21:38
So many said it wasn't going to happen. Let's wait for the first photo with Kenwright and Moshiri and the proverbial spade in the ground.
Brian Harrison
36 Posted 26/03/2021 at 14:21:48
All we need now is for Everton to employ those Chinese builders that built a complete hospital in a month, and we can begin next season inside the new ground.

Seriously, let's hope that we don't come across anything unforeseen that could create any further delay. Those of us of a certain age will be counting down the days.

Frank Wade
37 Posted 26/03/2021 at 14:21:54
Ha, Ha, Dennis, I use a capital P for him, or a capital B to be more precise. :-))
David Connor
38 Posted 26/03/2021 at 14:24:09
Great news. Now let's get it done.

I will miss the old lady... but we have to look to the future now. Anything will be possible with this beauty of a new stadium. Read and weep, Reds!!! COYB

Stu Gore
39 Posted 26/03/2021 at 14:24:23
Great news.
John Graham
40 Posted 26/03/2021 at 14:28:37
Great news for Everton and hopefully great news for the area.

Let's hope it will be the start of some fantastic building projects and much-needed regeneration which will bring a big buzz to the city of Liverpool.
COYB – I love this city!

Kevin Prytherch
41 Posted 26/03/2021 at 14:36:02
Wouldn’t it be amazing now if they could build it without using a single spade...

Then all those who said that they won’t believe it until they see a spade in the ground can carry on not believing way after it’s built!!!!

Barry Robson
42 Posted 26/03/2021 at 14:39:28
We have a world class manager who will build be a world class team and we will have a world class ground for it to play in. Brilliant. UTFT.
Dave Abrahams
43 Posted 26/03/2021 at 14:40:25
Could there be any better news than this!!! Very, very happy.
David McMullen
44 Posted 26/03/2021 at 14:40:35
Be interesting to see how the area around the dock will take the news; surely many developments will start to spring up. Hopefully a new train station. Need to bring silverware before we leave Goodison though!
Ron Sear
45 Posted 26/03/2021 at 14:41:24
I bet the owners of The Bramley-Moore pub opposite the dock are happy bunnies today. (Not bad reviews; might try it when it is possible.)
Paul Smith
46 Posted 26/03/2021 at 14:45:21
Emosh ere!
Michael Kenrick
47 Posted 26/03/2021 at 14:52:30

Still gonna wait for work to actually start (and finish!) before I get too excited. Hopefully the calculation of financial benefits for Moshiri far outwiegh the massive £500M cost (probably more – these projects always have a tendency to escalate).

But great news as it could perhaps have gone the other way, or had egregious conditions imposed.

Danny O’Neill
48 Posted 26/03/2021 at 14:52:35
Fantastic news and not even on the back of a bad result or performance!

Absolutely made up. This isn't 24 years too late, it's over 30 too late. Goodison needed replacing or regenerating as early as the 80s. Special place, but it was already aged then, it's just that the standard of English stadiums at the time meant it was still considered one of the top venues.

Really made up with this. Headquarters in the Liver Building with the new stadium in view, all on the banks of the Mersey.

George Carroll
49 Posted 26/03/2021 at 14:56:25
Great news – but why have Kenwright cutting the tape alongside Moshiri?

It's Moshiri alone that deserves our thanks.

Benn Chambers
50 Posted 26/03/2021 at 14:56:56
Absolutely buzzing! USM Arena here we come. Expect Alisher’s naming rights deal to follow soon.
Ian Burns
51 Posted 26/03/2021 at 15:00:05
Two words only required – Wonderful News!

Well, two more – At Last!

Colin Glassar
52 Posted 26/03/2021 at 15:01:26
Building to start April 1st? Nah, this is a New Everton. The era of Bobby Elstone and Old Mother Hubbard is well over, thank Christ.

Thank you, Moshiri, and thank you, Joe Anderson and Dan Meiss.

John Cook
53 Posted 26/03/2021 at 15:06:25
Congratulations to everyone at Everton FC who made this possible. The best news I've heard for many a year and have been supporting the Blues for over 60 years.

We have seen a lot of hard times being Blues but I genuinely believe with the new ground, that the good times are on the way.


Peter Mills
54 Posted 26/03/2021 at 15:08:23
This is great news, congratulations to all those involved for a very professional approach to a big project. A special word to Dan Meis, who came across as a very impressive guy when he presented the proposals at the Titanic Hotel.

Start of August 2024? It could be my grandson's 10th birthday – if so, he's having my ticket.

Bobby Mallon
55 Posted 26/03/2021 at 15:11:22
Oh wow!!! How good is this news?

I'm made up!

Philip Bunting
56 Posted 26/03/2021 at 15:21:07
What news to get on my Birthday... Get in. Onwards and upwards, I can't wait to watch it go up.

And hats of to Moshiri our savour to be fair as this would never never be happening without his acumen and clout.

Paul Birmingham
57 Posted 26/03/2021 at 15:21:59
Outstanding news, and a massive boost to Evertonians!

Onwards and upwards, Evertonians, “Whats Our Name?”

Eddie Dunn
58 Posted 26/03/2021 at 15:27:40
Good news indeed. Now what can I moan about next?
Billy Bradshaw
59 Posted 26/03/2021 at 15:33:12
John Tasker slowly but surely running out of options, probably praying Moshiri dose a runner.
Tony Everan
60 Posted 26/03/2021 at 15:43:10
A seismic day for Everton Football Club.

A new era is born.

Tony Abrahams
61 Posted 26/03/2021 at 16:02:05
Just heard you on the radio George, they kept you short and sweet, and I started thinking about your post the other week when you was having a bevy with those sailors!

After that, I started singing, then I thought about beautiful delapitated Goodison Pk, and before we move to Bramley Moore, let’s hope this stadium can go out with a bang🤞🙏

Joe Corgan
62 Posted 26/03/2021 at 16:06:33
Great news! Now we just need to call in the NTL investment, the Fortress Sports Fund and the Arteta money and we can get started. :)

Seriously though, I hope Farhad and Sasha have their chequebooks ready. This ain't gonna be cheap.

Dale Self
63 Posted 26/03/2021 at 16:14:06
Congratulations Evertonians.It is time to dream again.
Sean Callaghan
64 Posted 26/03/2021 at 16:14:11
Massively good news of course but I was just watching the CGIs of the new place and felt a wave of sadness about leaving Goodison. Maybe absence is indeed making the heart grow fonder but my God I miss the GOL. A whole new bunch of memories remain to be created but it saddens me a bit to think that the end of Goodison is actually coming to pass.
Darren Hind
65 Posted 26/03/2021 at 16:18:46
Only just got up and logged on to read this.

Huge sigh of relief...The giant is finally awakening from its slumber.

If anyone can provide a link to Georges interview with Capital it would be much appreciated.

Martin Berry
66 Posted 26/03/2021 at 16:20:02
I have never had any doubts this would happen. Once the Mr Moshiri and Everton moved operations to The Liver Building and the plans were revealed it was never going to be turned down.
I have been down at the dock for months with two buckets, tied to the end of a rope.
Massive thanks to Mr Moshiri, Denise Baxendale, Dan Meis and everyone involved. The biggest credit and thanks has to go to Mr Bill Kenwright, yes he had his moments but he made the call, he made the decision after his own due diligence to get an investor, and the right one to take the club forward and make a new stadium that we could only dream about now possible.
Stu Gore
67 Posted 26/03/2021 at 16:24:43
Just watched the digital fly through again. Really good, though right at the end I was disappointed as it look like we will still only be scoring from set pieces. Maybe that Sigurdssons first freekick for us. Three years to sort that nonsense out. Now we can capex all the stadium costs it puts some more shopping money in Carlo and Marcel’s pockets too.
Dave Ganley
68 Posted 26/03/2021 at 16:24:54
Wow fabulous news. Never thought this day would happen after all the false dawns but well done Everton, as much as I love GP and all the happy memories associated with, I cant wait to get in the new stadium now. Let's hope we can bring a new trophy to parade in there on the opening day. Well I can dream cant I.
Mike Hughes
69 Posted 26/03/2021 at 16:25:49
Brilliant news!!!
A no-brainer decision in all honesty.
On the banks of the Royal Blue Mersey.

Can you hear the Kopites sing?
I can’t hear a ****ing thing.
(Just a long drawn-out whine.)
So bitter!!!
Come on you Blues.

Brian Murray
70 Posted 26/03/2021 at 16:26:35
Martin. Ha ha love your ironic sense of humour as I’m assuming that’s what you mean. Do me a favour your emotional saviour shouldn’t be allowed anywhere near the grand opening of our jewel on the Mersey. What saying did Jose come up with ? Specialise in failure, quite apt.
Andrew Brookfield
71 Posted 26/03/2021 at 16:28:54
Happy Easter. The chocolate will taste oh so much sweeter. Brilliant news. UTFT.
Brian Murray
72 Posted 26/03/2021 at 16:30:04
Bit of my family legacy involved building it ! My lad soon to be qualified bricky no doubt will get a start on it.
Bobby Thomas
73 Posted 26/03/2021 at 16:32:30
The adrenaline shot the club has needed for 30 years.

It will change the way the club is perceived locally, nationally and internationally. Most importantly, it may even change the way the club perceives itself.

Anyone seen Tony Marsh btw? ;-)

Brian Murray
74 Posted 26/03/2021 at 16:33:10
Tough call to make for all the worldwide tourists to make, top of range hotels fancy eateries and bars, big complex’s with entertainment no doubt. Or a visit to the loft conversion in middle of breckfield road ?
Dave Brierley
75 Posted 26/03/2021 at 16:35:54
Martin @ 66 Absolutely spot on.
"The biggest credit and thanks has to go to Mr Bill Kenwright"

Although I don't think you'll get too many on here agreeing with that sentiment.
Great news for all blues. Could'nt be happier.

John Chambers
76 Posted 26/03/2021 at 16:46:33
At last. And presumably as Jenrick has announced this after the commissioners have been put in place for the council we don’t have to worry about any dodgy dealing in the planning process
Brian Murray
77 Posted 26/03/2021 at 16:48:05
Dave. Ever thought of taking up airbrushing for a living ? Or is that as real as your mates positive input into our club. Re the teary one
Anthony Murphy
78 Posted 26/03/2021 at 16:55:49
Has Jenrick or anyone from the govt actually commented? Will be interesting to see what he/they say given the backdrop

Absolutely fantastic news.

Brian Wilkinson
79 Posted 26/03/2021 at 17:03:22
Dave@75, I do not think you are on your own with the biggest credit to Bill, sure Bill himself backs your sentiment :-)

If anyone deserves a huge credit, it is Moshiri and uncle Usmanov.

Tony Abrahams
80 Posted 26/03/2021 at 17:17:48
Once upon a time Everton existed to win, and hopefully soon that will be the case once again. Let’s just be happy, and hopefully soon plucky little Everton, will no longer exist.
Brent Stephens
81 Posted 26/03/2021 at 17:26:22
Thomas #12 "Let's not forget the part Liverpool City Council played in getting this approved."


Brent Stephens
82 Posted 26/03/2021 at 17:28:58
Jonathan T. on Radio Merseyside just now - "always knew this would happen, never any doubt".
Fran Kearney
83 Posted 26/03/2021 at 17:29:50
Brilliant news, well in Colin Glassar 52 for mentioning our much maligned Mayor, whatever your political views I seriously doubt if this would of got off the ground without his input, My first visit to Goodison was 1961 so it will be a very sad day for me when we eventually leave, so many memories Good, Bad and Ugly but I wouldn’t swap them for the world
I am 70 in September and hopefully on my birthday I will be sitting in my usual seat in Upper Bullens with my nephew and great nephew fingers crossed dreaming of picking our seats for the new stadium, three generations of True Blues couldn’t be any happier
Tony Abrahams
84 Posted 26/03/2021 at 17:30:15
Funny one doing the rounds now Brent, with Joe Anderson saying this new stadium will be worth going to jail for, whilst telling Liverpudlians to get to work, and pay their taxes because he needs more money to pay the bribes off!

Some might not agree but Liverpudlians have been getting played at their own game recently, and guess what? they fucking hate it!

Neil Copeland
85 Posted 26/03/2021 at 17:30:25
Wow, what a great day.

As with others will miss GP and will be very teary at the last game there. But, the future is bright, the future is blue. Can’t wait to see the Phoenix rise from the dock.


Bill Gall
86 Posted 26/03/2021 at 17:33:00
Well here we go something else to go on my bucket list just got to keep going for another 5/6yrs. Complete my Blues journey from playing on Goodison Park in 1953 to attending a game in the new Bramley Moore Dock ground or whatever it is named when it is completed..
Tony Abrahams
87 Posted 26/03/2021 at 17:34:53
My my hey hey Bramley Moore is here to stay, Goodison will soon be gone, but never forgotten, and some thank Kenwright, but to most he’s rotten. My my hey hey I just wish I could go an get the ale in on this beautiful day!
Stu Gore
88 Posted 26/03/2021 at 17:44:46
Tony Marsh is currently swimming round the dock in his newt costume.
Tony Abrahams
89 Posted 26/03/2021 at 17:48:27
Darren H, go to the Everton page on google and you’ll find George’s interview mate.
Brent Stephens
90 Posted 26/03/2021 at 17:49:17
Nice one, Tony (#84 and #87!)
Chris Williams
91 Posted 26/03/2021 at 17:49:53

Pure poetry mate. Straight from the heart.

Bill Fairfield
92 Posted 26/03/2021 at 17:50:05
Fantastic news for evertonians the world over,well done to all involved.COYB
Darren Hind
93 Posted 26/03/2021 at 17:55:50
Thanks Tony. I'll check that out.

Great day Mate...Great great day

Neil Copeland
94 Posted 26/03/2021 at 17:58:12
Stu #88, classic, I just burst out laughing and frightened the dog.
Mike Keating
95 Posted 26/03/2021 at 17:58:39
Happy birthday me - what a great pressie!
Thomas Richards
96 Posted 26/03/2021 at 18:16:07
Ron 45

Even better, the landlady of the Bramley Moore is a sister of one of the original KEIOC group.
Her years of keeping the only pub left on the Dock Road going will see a great reward for her.

Geoff Lambert
98 Posted 26/03/2021 at 18:23:45
I don't think we will have to wait to long for the steel to be delivered.
Fantastic news.
Come on Mr Tasker stop reading and pluck up the courage to come on here.
Jack Convery
99 Posted 26/03/2021 at 18:25:34
Really great news and about time. Thanks to everyone concerned in getting this approval through all the r-- tape.

We must ensure it reaches its capacity on match days to stop the Norwegians coming in and taking over once they realise WE ARE THE CLUB to support.

I would suggest that whoever are the oldest and youngest season ticket holders at Goodison, be given a spade each to start the building process. We are after all the PEOPLE'S CLUB.

Darren Hind
100 Posted 26/03/2021 at 18:31:24
Which match will generate the greater demand for tickets ? the last game at Goodison, or the first game at BMD

I suspect there will be about 65,000 Evertonians (current and former matchgoers) scrambling like fuck to be present at both

Geoff Lambert
101 Posted 26/03/2021 at 18:33:05
Darren! I would put another 10,000 on to that estimation.
Darren Hind
102 Posted 26/03/2021 at 18:35:42
Wouldn't argue, Geoff.

Bring your hankie to both.

Mike Gaynes
103 Posted 26/03/2021 at 18:35:54
Glorious news.

Darren, I'd add a zero on to the end of your estimate. Personally, I'll be in line for tickets by next Tuesday.

Well in, Merseyside!!!!!!

Jeff Armstrong
104 Posted 26/03/2021 at 18:44:34
Great news, but let's not forget Dan Meis, the architect, who has has been royaly shat on by Laing O'Rourke and our board, who should have insisted him or his firm being kept on at the very least in a consultancy role.
Barry Rathbone
105 Posted 26/03/2021 at 18:50:25
The banks of the "Royal Blue Mersey" should surely now be updated – here's my go, get stuck in chaps:

Oh we hate big stands when there's only one
At Bramley Moore we'll show them how it's done
And we'll hang the kopites one by one
On the banks of the Royal Blue Mersey.

Brent Stephens
106 Posted 26/03/2021 at 18:52:21
Jeff, I'm inclined to say that, if appointing Laing O'Rourke and not Meis was a sound business decision, then that's fine. We often complain about the perceived poor management at the top of the club.
Thomas Richards
107 Posted 26/03/2021 at 18:52:59
You're best sticking to the posting stuff, Ginge.
Tony Hill
108 Posted 26/03/2021 at 18:54:21
Wonderful for us and wonderful for our city. This is what our club is all about. Evertonians the world over can be proud and joyful.
Brent Stephens
109 Posted 26/03/2021 at 18:54:44
Barry, don't give up the day job.
John Crook
110 Posted 26/03/2021 at 18:55:22
I have just seen that our "£500M" new stadium that will pump around £1billion into the economy was worthy of all of 20 seconds on BBC Northwest News!
Dave Brierley
111 Posted 26/03/2021 at 19:00:46
Tony @87

My my hey hey Bramley Moore is here to stay, Goodison will soon be gone, but never forgotten, and some thank Kenwright, but to most he's rotten. My my hey hey I just wish I could go an get the ale in on this beautiful day!

My my hey hey I don't care what you all say
Tony A just hates Blue Bill, have a feeling he always will
He says BK is just a fool, a liar, cheat a boys pen tool
My my hey hey I know which one I'd rather be today.

Brian Williams
112 Posted 26/03/2021 at 19:03:18
Just been sent a couple of cracking videos.
One of big Joe and the other of Moshiri.
Tony Abrahams
113 Posted 26/03/2021 at 19:04:01
I'd say it's better to burn out than fade away, but I'm glad we're both happy, Dave, on this beautiful day!
John Keating
114 Posted 26/03/2021 at 19:04:13
Fantastic news.

Big thanks to Moshiri, Dan Meis, Joe Anderson, the Council, and all the Blues who would not accept the shit that was Destination Kirkby.

Now, Mr Moshiri, and our new best mate, Mr Usmanov – over to you lads!

Colin Glassar
115 Posted 26/03/2021 at 19:04:23
I hear Boys Pen Bill has hired a diver to recover the Arteta money, and the ring fence, before they start to drain the dock.
Mike Keating
116 Posted 26/03/2021 at 19:05:42
Jeff @104,

I know Meis said he was disappointed not to see the project through but I think it is quite normal for the conceptual design to be taken over by a team responsible for getting it built.

Meis, however, is still behind the project as a whole – quoted today as saying:

"It's been quite a journey... can't wait to see it growing out of the dock!"

Which is another way of saying: UTFT!

Tony Hill
117 Posted 26/03/2021 at 19:10:14
Meis's contribution is important for our wider profile. The US has now had an indelible hand in the new stadium, a connection which will be celebrated for many, many decades.

It is fantastic that a glorious, open, world-facing city like ours has an international stamp.

Tony Abrahams
118 Posted 26/03/2021 at 19:12:05

If I had a chance of going to the last match at Goodison or the first match at Bramley-Moore Dock, shoot me on County Road at midnight, after I've been to the ground that's given me a thousand memories mate!

Joe McMahon
119 Posted 26/03/2021 at 19:14:44
Hell Yes! I only have a Nissan Qashqai, but If I lower the boot and fold down the seats and fill it with shovels reckon, I could spend Easter weekend making a start!
Rob Halligan
120 Posted 26/03/2021 at 19:17:24
Brilliant news today!! The next eagerly awaited date will be sometime in June 2024 when the fixtures for the 2024-25 season are released, and our first home game.

My pick, any of the original founder members of the football league who will be in the Premier League for the 2024-25 season. As it stands at the moment, it's Villa, Burnley, West Brom or Wolves. Villa will probably be the best as I think it's the most played fixture in Football League history.

Chris Williams
121 Posted 26/03/2021 at 19:17:51
The value of the club has probably increased because of this, and the share price increased accordingly. Moshiri recently converted a load of debt into shares, and that should also increase in value accordingly, which in turn should strengthen the balance sheet.

Kenwright's residual shareholding should increase as well.

No doubt it'll all become clear shortly, together with its implications...

Martin Mason
122 Posted 26/03/2021 at 19:18:11
The ground will be a massive waterside cultural icon – perhaps like the Sydney Opera House. For it to happen to us and for us to now be well financed and run by professionals is nothing less than a new dawn for this wonderful club!
Danny O’Neill
123 Posted 26/03/2021 at 19:18:37
Taxi for Barry, but who cares? What a great day.
Brian Foley
124 Posted 26/03/2021 at 19:18:47
Barry (105), it's not about ‘them' – they don't need a mention, so just leave it.
Dave (111), the Kenwright jibes are pathetic, and shanties are the shiteist form of ‘music' ever. Spoilt the great news really. I'm off back to ‘Morrison Hotel'.
Tony Abrahams
125 Posted 26/03/2021 at 19:22:14
Rob @120,

When Everton became the first team to play 100 seasons of top flight football, they requested to play Aston Villa, because it was the oldest fixture they could have played. No surprise it was turned down, and we played Spurs instead.

I think I'll join you, Brian, because I've been stuck in Heartbreak Hotel for too long now!

Danny O’Neill
126 Posted 26/03/2021 at 19:22:59
Would the new stadium at Bramley-Moore Dock be built and ready in time for the last game at Goodison Park? Just thinking on Darren's point.

Last game at Goodison screened at the new stadium at Bramley-Moore Dock! A military-style spectacle as the transition of power / handing over of the keys is passed in unique style with 2 full stadiums.

Heck, even get the Band of the Royal Marines in to play Sunset.

I'm welling up already!

Thomas Richards
127 Posted 26/03/2021 at 19:24:35
I wouldn't give Kenwright any credit for this. Not a drop.
Robert Tressell
128 Posted 26/03/2021 at 19:26:17
John @110. Brilliant news for the club and, as you rightly point out, it's brilliant news for the region. This is a massive project and it's great to see Everton at the heart of it.
Joe McMahon
129 Posted 26/03/2021 at 19:26:28
Dave & Barry (105 & 111) open a bottle tonight guys and just chill. This isn't about Boys Pens or that lot – it's about our club's future and, for the first time in decades, we are becoming Everton FC again!
Brian Williams
130 Posted 26/03/2021 at 19:27:07
Danny #126.

Surely the last game at Goodison Park wouldn't be the last game unless the new stadium at Bramley-Moore Dock is ready for the next game?

Brent Stephens
131 Posted 26/03/2021 at 19:29:23
Brian, I think Danny means he hopes completion of the new stadium at Bramley-Moore Dock doesn't spill over into the summer of 2024, after the end of the season.
Rob Halligan
132 Posted 26/03/2021 at 19:29:23
Danny #126.

That sounds a brilliant idea, a bit like the closing ceremony at the Olympics when the country hosting hands over to the next country to stage the Olympics, albeit they've got four years to complete their Olympic stadium!!

Danny O’Neill
133 Posted 26/03/2021 at 19:31:34
Just thinking different, Brian. Make it an occasion that, to my knowledge, no-one else has ever done.

The new stadium at Bramley-Moore Dock is built and ready for the new season. We play the last game at Goodison Park but can accommodate fans at the new stadium to watch it on the big screen and make the occasion a two-stadium spectacle.

Just an out-of-the-box thought. Probably as random as hell and totally bonkers... me getting overly excited.

John Crook
134 Posted 26/03/2021 at 19:33:06
Carlo has just said he expects Gbamin to be fit for the first home game at Bramley-Moore Dock!
Brian Williams
135 Posted 26/03/2021 at 19:35:42
Danny #133.

It's allowed, mate, on today of all days.

Tony Abrahams
136 Posted 26/03/2021 at 19:37:25
Some of the best ideas seem totally bonkers sometimes, Danny, and usually because that's exactly what they are! (Unless we're going for the league and the whole country's eyes are on us!)

If this doesn't unite Evertonians, nothing will, so it's better to burn out than fade away, is my biggest wish for the world's first purpose-built football stadium, because Goodison Park, definitely deserves to go out with a bang!

Jeff Armstrong
137 Posted 26/03/2021 at 19:37:31
I don’t think Danny was being too specific, just a romantic notion, but a great idea.
Mick Davies
138 Posted 26/03/2021 at 19:38:50
I've just heard the Norwegians are bringing over a pair of extremely rare, lesser spotted red guillemots, to plant at Bramlel-Moore Dock, so the RSPB can halt construction.
Bill Watson
139 Posted 26/03/2021 at 19:45:05
Great news; now I have to try to hang on a bit longer!

George; do you have a link to your Capital Radio gig?

Keith Slinger
140 Posted 26/03/2021 at 19:50:17
This is great news, and hopefully a tonic for the guys and especially our dreadful home record at present?

Crystal Palace are next to visit Goodison Park so the players should all be fired up top off this great news, hopefully?

Pat Kelly
141 Posted 26/03/2021 at 19:51:10
Will any of the current squad still be at Everton when it's finished? Apart from Delph obviously.
Thomas Richards
142 Posted 26/03/2021 at 19:56:33
Just got a little thought there of Blues who are no longer with us who would have loved today. My dad was first. Made me and my family into the people we are, brought us up to love the club.

Next one was Tony Kelly. What an Evertonian that man was. Massive input into the KEIOC campaign. Paddy and the lads will have a drink for him on the opening day.

Have a great night, my fellow Blues. We are on the march!

Dave Brierley
143 Posted 26/03/2021 at 19:58:23
Joe @129 I know. Maybe aim your comments at Brians (Murray & Wilkinson) and of course the ubiquitous Tony A. I simply responded.

Brian @124, See above.
"Greetings at Morrison Hotel? " "Shantys?" Very strange. Hope things improve for you with the right treatment.

George McKane
144 Posted 26/03/2021 at 20:14:40
No sorry, Bill – don't know how to find it.
Thomas Richards
145 Posted 26/03/2021 at 20:17:00
The dust had now settled
An here was the proof
Our troublesome neighbours
Had built themselves a new roof

It was tall it was high
An they were all chuffed to bits
But it looked out of place
As though nothing quite fits

Carragher mocked how small Goodison seemed
But what was in store
We could only have dreamed
They mocked an they ridiculed day after day
Have you saw our new stand you'd hear them all say

But things had now changed back across Stanley park
An the northern blue army
We're coming out of the dark
Farhad an Bill were hatching a plan
To fuck off from walton
As soon as they can

This place is fucked
Said Farhad with a frown
The red shite have run everyone out of this town
There's no houses left no shops on this land
All just to build themselves
A gigantic roof on a stand

This place was once so lovely
An pretty,
but now it's the arsehole of our lovely city

Bill said to Farhad so wat shall we do?
We can't stay here cos this town is thru !
Well relocate said Farhad with a look in his eye
To the heart of the city
Where the Mersey flows by

We will build us an empire
To wipe the smile off their
An put all those silly reds
Back in their place

Something that puts us
Back on the worlds map
Not tiptoeing through walton
In all the dog crap

We will make our team stronger
an fitter
An rise like a Phoenix
Then we ll see who is bitter

We will make them magnificent
They'll all come to see em
An build an arena
Like a big coliseum

With pride an with passion
In our royal blue jersey
In our blue coliseum
On the banks of the Mersey

So that's what we'll do with the help of the mayor
An we will breeze out of walton without even a care
Why aim for the moon
When you can reach for the stars
So fuck off to Anfield

Brian Wilkinson
146 Posted 26/03/2021 at 20:17:06
Not sure why I have been dragged up in Bill, I simply responded to a post who wanted to give the biggest credit of all to you-know-who. I simply replied Moshiri should be getting the biggest credit.
Ken Williams
147 Posted 26/03/2021 at 20:22:20
Not much get me excited these days, but this news has given me a hard-on! 🤣🤣
Brent Stephens
148 Posted 26/03/2021 at 20:24:43
Ken, so that's a Bramley-Moore Dock Cock?
Brian Wilkinson
149 Posted 26/03/2021 at 20:26:35
I like Danny's idea, if the stadium is ready, of having a big screen at the new stadium, to show the last game at Goodison Park.
Dale Self
150 Posted 26/03/2021 at 20:27:14
So you're taking the news rather hard, Ken?
Derek Knox
151 Posted 26/03/2021 at 20:39:58
Great news for the City, and most of all everyone connected to Everton.

I had my trepidations when Jenrick was involved in making the decision, but gladly my fears seem to have been totally unfounded. I just hope and pray that work will actually commence soon and there are no hitches, glitches or bitches involved along the way.

I wasn't being derogatory to the opposite sex, by the way, I alluded to official or unofficial complaints that could potentially temporarily derail the work. Ronaldo, Koulibaly, Isco, Rabiot and Aarons will be watching the clock, and keeping an eye on progress. :-)

Jay Harris
153 Posted 26/03/2021 at 20:44:07
Fantastic news.

Now Mr Usmanov can confidently pump more money in for this summer's transfer window.

It will hopefully give the players a boost too and maybe we can win enough games to get into Europe.

After 30 years of stagnation under you-know-who, we have to give great credit to Moshiri and Usmanov for the input of their own cash – unlike he who shall not be mentioned, who has never put a penny of his own money in but has made a personal fortune and is anxious to lap up the accolades and bathe in the limelight.

Tony Abrahams
154 Posted 26/03/2021 at 20:44:56
Brilliant that ,Thomas mate!

Bill, type in 'Everton' on Safari and then just go down and look in the little square boxes and you should find a little part of George's interview there.

Dave, come on mate, Kenwright wanted to take us to a place that is truly a-kip (no disrespect, Kirkby) years after he told lies about having the money for the Kings Dock.

I'm glad he told lies now because I honestly prefer this location better, and it is hopefully going to transform the City of Liverpool.

But that's just my personal view, Dave, along with an opinion that it's time for everyone to unite... please!

Billy Roberts
156 Posted 26/03/2021 at 20:57:24
Great news, properly life-affirming. We Evertonians will be able to see our new stadium built in our lifetimes. This is something only certain generations of Blues can claim so this, in itself, is very, very special.

To me, this stadium is also individual and unique in its design, a real gem; some people have been lamenting Meis's treatment but his stadium design will become a reality – I think that will definitely soften the blow.

I honestly will be so excited to see the site becoming a working area very soon. I will definitely be down there regularly on my bike watching the progress.

A beautiful day for all blues, believers and non-believers – it doesn't matter now, we are all winners.

Dave Brierley
157 Posted 26/03/2021 at 20:57:33
Hey Tony,

I love your comments and deep down I'd never fall out with you. You have no time for Bill Kenwright; I have 'some' time for him.

Let's agree to disagree. I'm sure it will come up again, but for now, I'm sure we'll both have a good night and maybe someday we'll meet at Bramley-Moore Dock and have a beer.

For now, I agree, let's unite and celebrate. Happy days!!

Paul Birmingham
158 Posted 26/03/2021 at 21:03:51
Thomas, you're giving George a good run there with that ditty, well done.
Tony Abrahams
160 Posted 26/03/2021 at 21:17:45
Yes Dave, it’s a time for rejoicing mate, but the bad news is that George’s interview has now disappeared, unfortunately.
Thomas Richards
161 Posted 26/03/2021 at 21:24:35
Paul 158.

There's only one George mate.

I had that texted to me.

Danny O’Neill
163 Posted 26/03/2021 at 21:36:41
When we play the first match in this stadium, the Liver Building (our headquarters) will be illuminated blue. In the manner Chicago dies the river green on Paddy's Day, we die the water in the dock, in fact the Mersey, Royal Blue and set of a blue white and amber firework display that makes the London Eye New Year's Eve show look amateur. We make a statement; an announcement.

Hey, this is years off yet and in-between, we are going to build a squad and see the Grand Old Lady off in style.

I haven't even dented the Friday vino yet, but I don't need to as the feel good factor this news brings is enough intoxication to have me making crazy statements.

Peter Mills
164 Posted 26/03/2021 at 21:41:37
Tony#87 and others:-

“Look out Mama, there’s a blue boat comin’ down the river...”

Derek Cowell
165 Posted 26/03/2021 at 21:47:32
Just got to ensure that we stay in the Premier League now, haha!
Ray Said
166 Posted 26/03/2021 at 21:48:01
I think us 60+ plus Blues need to start a proper jogging programme to give us a better chance to be around for the first game at the new ground.

Moshiri's Midnight Runners? 'Royal Blue Harriers'? 'Kings of the City'? 'The Phoenix Boys'? 'The Eddie Kavanaghs'?

Derek Cowell
167 Posted 26/03/2021 at 21:48:30
Great news though!
Andy Crooks
168 Posted 26/03/2021 at 21:55:26
What a day. Sometimes all the things that can go wrong don't. This has been handled diligently right from the start.

Well done to Mr Moshiri. Thank God Bill Kenwright didn't win the Kirby battle.

Neil Copeland
170 Posted 26/03/2021 at 22:02:52
Ray #166, “The Eddie Kavanaghs” by a country mile
Dale Self
171 Posted 26/03/2021 at 22:03:03
Hey Ray, You old timers talking about doing what you can to 'make it' to BMD is fantastic stuff. And to hear all the memories and sentiments coming into a full dream realized is just beautiful. Just what I needed on a weekend without club football. Keep it goin man!
Dale Self
181 Posted 26/03/2021 at 22:33:09
Fair play Thomas, I was thinking you wrote that as well. Blue Astral Waves to all of you and I hope you find the interview.
Kieran Kinsella
184 Posted 26/03/2021 at 22:36:34
Andy 168

I was thinking the same thing today. Can you imagine the corrugated iron cookie cutter stadium overlooking an empty lot once set to house a Tesco. All tha fans struggling to find parking and getting the cold shoulder from the locals. The KEIOC lads deserve a few rounds tonight

Colin Glassar
195 Posted 26/03/2021 at 23:08:29
I hope they install cameras all over BMD so we can watch a live stream of how the work is progressing. It will be like watching Big Brother.
Brent Stephens
197 Posted 26/03/2021 at 23:13:50
Colin I actually emailed Everton referring to my old employer who was building a new campus. They had a video update every few months, with the Vice Chancellor being filmed walking round the construction site and getting the site engineer to describe the progress that had been made. That would be exciting.
Kieran Kinsella
198 Posted 26/03/2021 at 23:14:32
When Goodson is demolished, I'd like to claim a chunk of concrete from the rear pillar of the Gwladys Street end that obscured my view on many occasions as a souvenir. End of an era, definitely sad to see the old ground go. But hugely excited for the future.
Brian Wilkinson
201 Posted 26/03/2021 at 23:28:28
What a day to be a Blue, by the time we reach 2024, I will be in the 60 plus group so looking forward to meeting up with Ray and others in the exclusive club.

Think I might build a huge hamster wheel, in the spare bedroom and cut down to 10 cigs a day, don't fancy being lapped by Ray when the time comes.

We older Evertonians have had our glory of success, so in a way, I am so pleased for the younger generation, to have something at last, Christ knows it has been tough for our under-30s fans... I would love Everton to lift a trophy before we bid farewell to Goodison.

Colin Glassar
202 Posted 26/03/2021 at 23:38:14
Ditto Brian. I admire the under-30's who can't remember seeing us win trophies and still stay the course.

Seriously, Brent, I'd like to be able to see how the stadium is progressing.

Paul Birmingham
203 Posted 26/03/2021 at 23:51:53
Thomas, well in mate, superb, the best..

George, no fear, untouchable!

Bramley-Moore Dock will need to have some quotes on the stone and granite, immortal words from the TWers.

Good times soon starting for Evertonians... “Whats Our Name?”

Now to beat Palace and keep going to try and achieve some success in qualification for Europe.

Danny O’Neill
204 Posted 27/03/2021 at 00:10:55
Well said Brian. I'm not yet in the over 50s club (just), but my son is 26. I just want him to experience what I did.

All he's had to live off is false dawns and my reminiscing of what it's like watching Everton be successful.

I had similar with my Dad's tales of the 60s team as we watched Everton in the late 70s / early 80s. The timeline of success starvation wasn't as it is now but for my Dad's generation and me as a youngster, it was definitely compounded by the shock of the evil red tide that had emerged. For him in particular that was never there previously. I was probably the first generation that grew up with it.

Hopefully this is a step in that tide turning again. As much as I hate the term, let's start being Merseyside's noisy neighbours and rock the establishment.

Derek Thomas
205 Posted 27/03/2021 at 00:24:53
Not many saw that one coming. The Government will take over the Council and by overseeing at least the start... and depending how long they stay, maybe the finish of the building.

Thus, for not one brass wazoo of their own money, the Tories will be able to show the rest of the Country... "Look at us keeping our leveling-up promise!"

Not that it will get them many votes on Merseyside anyway.

They aren't officially traded on the stock market but Moshiri's shares just shot up in value.

Tony Hill
209 Posted 27/03/2021 at 01:15:22
Onwards we go, never stopping until we get there. Relentlessly Russian.
Frank Kearns
210 Posted 27/03/2021 at 07:42:12
Thomas at 145, brilliant. I peed my pants with excitement when I read the news!!!
John Keating
212 Posted 27/03/2021 at 08:00:43
Loads of things at Goodison hopefully the Club will sell or raffle off. All adds to the pot for the new build.
Alan McGuffog
213 Posted 27/03/2021 at 08:14:38
Meanwhile, the world's biggest iceberg calves, somewhere off Greenland. It begins to make its unstoppable slow journey south east. Predicted to end up at the mouth of a river in North West England in a year or two. Everton that!
Michael Connelly
214 Posted 27/03/2021 at 08:17:52
Run Kenwright down all you like, but maybe take Dan Meis's words into account before you do:

“I always say you don't get great architecture without a great client, that kind of collaboration, and the rest of the board feeds into that as well with all kinds of perspectives.

“But it was his early response to the basic design that set us on this path and he gets a lot of credit for that.”

Gerry Quinn
215 Posted 27/03/2021 at 08:20:35
Brilliant news for us all, well done to all of the Management and owners... remember that Dan Meis was also instrumental in the design of Roma's new stadium which has just been called in!

AS Roma statement underlines Everton and Dan Meis success at new Bramley-Moore Dock stadium

Hugh Jenkins
216 Posted 27/03/2021 at 08:22:19
Danny (#204),

We were the "Establishment" until Liverpool signed their pact with Lucifer in the 1970s. All we are going to do, from now on, is reclaim our rightful place.

Christine Foster
217 Posted 27/03/2021 at 08:39:29
What fabulous news! To everyone involved at the club – congratulations! It's been a long and difficult road, but I look forward to a wonderful send-off for the Old Lady. A Champions League win would be icing on the cake, especially if it was against the other lot!

So happy tonight – especially, as said by a few posters above, to the boys at KEIOC – without whom we would be playing in a Tesco car park in Kirkby. Thank you.

It's my intention to fly into Liverpool Airport on the first night game, to see the stadium lit up blue, the Liver Building lit up in blue too.

Today, we have claimed our city back. The future is Blue.

To all involved – and I do mean all – today is a day to say well done and thank you. At last... something to believe in.

Micky Norman
221 Posted 27/03/2021 at 09:21:15
Can we have a big webcam hanging over the site so we can watch it going up from our screens please? And a big speaker to play Everton songs to drown out the brickies' Dewalt radios playing Talk Radio or Smooth FM or whatever, on the hour?

And the Everton badge on blue hard hats and hi-viz jackets? Free tea and coffee for anyone wearing them in town at dinner time? And a big badge sign pointing out across the river? And Everton badges on those special signs they put up on the roads for delivery wagons...

Tony Abrahams
223 Posted 27/03/2021 at 09:34:41
Brilliant words, Christine. A day to cherish and to say Thank You, and something to really believe in at last!

The dust has settled, we know it's going to happen now, so hopefully Evertonians can all start pulling in the same direction, because when we do, we are a very powerful force, singing “We Shall Not Be Moved!”

Dave Abrahams
224 Posted 27/03/2021 at 09:37:29
Dave (#157), very good post, well said.
Mike Doyle
225 Posted 27/03/2021 at 09:54:40
Alan #213,

If that did happen, it would do wonders for the local tourist trade. Far more spectacular than those giant puppets of a few years ago.

Brian Murray
227 Posted 27/03/2021 at 10:06:29
I'm sure the teary one will keep a dignified silence and even keep his distance from the grand opening as he will be big enough to admit, after all his failings, plus him and Moyes's successful message to the world and all Blues that we should be happy just to be in the top league (yeah, right).

Sorry, I got out of bed the wrong side. Coyb.

"... One by one, on the banks of the Royal Blue Mersey."

Brian Murray
228 Posted 27/03/2021 at 10:12:23
We have had to really jump through hoops (thanks for your great input, Dan Meis) to incorporate the history of the area into the design but it's done us an enormous favour in that anyone around the globe will know whose ground it is at first glance without even seeing the badge on it. You would struggle to name any ground on that notice.
John Atkins
229 Posted 27/03/2021 at 10:17:52
History has a habit of repeating itself...

Can we look forward to the new stadium at Bramley-Moore Dock hosting games during the 2030 World Cup? Hopefully we'll win the FA Cup that season too!!!

Colin Glassar
230 Posted 27/03/2021 at 10:19:19
I was hoping the first shovel in the ground would be next week but, according to the Echo, we need to finalise a deal with the money lenders and then work out a construction schedule with the contractors. This could take several more months. Let’s hope work can start before winter kicks in.
Brian Harrison
232 Posted 27/03/2021 at 10:28:54
I was puzzled by a piece in the Echo yesterday saying that, despite the council and the government giving us the go-ahead, this can still be challenged — on what grounds?

Regarding the new stadium, my plea is please don't name any stands after any owners or chairmen past or present. I would name only two stands: one Catterick and the other Kendall, as being the only two Everton managers in modern history to have won the league.

Rob Halligan
233 Posted 27/03/2021 at 10:34:30
Colin, I'm guessing most of the construction scheduling will already have been carried out. Wasn't part of the planning application showing stage by state construction, even showing the times when work would be carried out?

As we speak Usmanov has been ploughing money into the club's bank account ready to pay building contractors!!

Christy Ring
234 Posted 27/03/2021 at 10:43:14
Great words, Christine, thrilled and delighted that we will have a fabulous state-of-the-art stadium, one of the best in the world, let alone in Liverpool.

A big difference between a new roof and a new stadium. Many on here said it was never going to happen. I have to compliment Mr Moshiri who delivered on his promise, the start of a new era!

Kevin Molloy
235 Posted 27/03/2021 at 10:43:53
So that's the planning permission now gotten...

Am I right in thinking that —other than finding the £500 million — we're all set?

Colin Glassar
236 Posted 27/03/2021 at 10:50:18
You’re probably right, Rob. I just read an article in the Echo which suggested finalising financing and scheduling can only be completed now, now that the project is authorised.
Nick Page
237 Posted 27/03/2021 at 10:50:45
Kenwright must have been up all night penning this tribute to himself. Strangely no mention of the King's Dock fiasco or Destination Kirkby. I'm sure there are far more people at the club worthy of mention than this insidious parasite, and every one of them deserves a medal for what they've put up with. Well done.

Everton new stadium dream becomes reality thanks to seven club officials and one 'game changer'

Dermot O'Brien
239 Posted 27/03/2021 at 11:02:17
Derek #13 Well said about the opposition to Kirkby. It would have been a disaster. KEIOC was one of the groups I think. Well done to all involved.
Robert Williams
240 Posted 27/03/2021 at 11:15:18
DT 222 Ha ha ha!!.
Danny O’Neill
241 Posted 27/03/2021 at 11:35:57
Maybe William Ralph Dean warrants a stand, Brian?
Paul Turner
242 Posted 27/03/2021 at 11:49:22
"Mersey Trout" is also the title of an ("unofficial") album of Captain Beefheart & the Magic Band's gig at Rotter's Club in St. John's Precinct on 20th October, 1980. I was there, along with another Blue mate who's now resident in the USA. Webcor, webcor.

Hopefully, our old bunch of mates (now spread across UK, USA & NZ) can be reconstituted to attend a match or two at BMD & reminisce about our days standing on the lower Gwladys Street terraces (about ¼ way back, just to the right of the goal towards St Luke's as you look towards the Park End).

Christopher Timmins
243 Posted 27/03/2021 at 12:28:31
Fantastic news for the City, just fantastic. Huge employment and regeneration over the next three years during the construction phase and many new job opportunities when the Stadium is complete.

What is also important after the construction of the new stadium is that a fitting purpose is found for Goodison Park and the surrounding area, we don't want the regeneration of one area to lead to the decline of another.

The decision for the go ahead was a no brainer given Covid-19 and your Governments promise to level things up. Let's hope that this is just one of a number of projects to come about in the North of England.

I am really looking forward to taking the Ryan Air flight from Dublin and hearing the Captain announce as we circle the city before landing that to our right on the banks of the Mersey you can see Everton Football Club's new stadium.

Truly "The City is ours".

Neil Copeland
244 Posted 27/03/2021 at 12:39:43
Christopher, the club has already submitted plans for the regeneration of Goodison Park as part of its planning application. I am not very good at attaching links and things but I am sure one of the others on here could do so or, failing that, Google it.
Brian Harrison
245 Posted 27/03/2021 at 12:49:48
Danny 241,

Yes, his record will never be broken, so I would have no objections to a William Ralph Dean stand.

I just think if you have a stand named after you, it's got to be because of an achievement and not because you happened to be Chairman when the team won something. The Phillip Carter stand still grates on me.

Andrew Gaule
246 Posted 27/03/2021 at 12:50:37
I am curious as to what other types of development may occur near the new stadium. Does the City have any plans to enhance rail links to the new site?
Danny O’Neill
247 Posted 27/03/2021 at 13:15:59
I've personally not looked into the detail, Andrew, but I'm sure more studious and learned posters can answer that.

I would hazard a guess from what I read that, yes, there will be related development and this is a key component in a much broader development of the area.

In terms of transport, I'm not sure if they are relying on the fact that the site is a 15-minute walk from Sandhills Station and only a mile / mile and a half outside of the city centre. Even for those who don't like walking, with a few pub stops en-route, that's achievable!!

Francis van Lierop
248 Posted 27/03/2021 at 13:16:36
Great news!
Billy Bradshaw
249 Posted 27/03/2021 at 13:25:35
Hopefully it would be nice to see the dock drained and filled in before the end of the year before the harsh weather kicks in.
Eugene Ruane
250 Posted 27/03/2021 at 13:40:33
Will those who pushed so hard for Destination Kirkby be starting 'Keoooc'?
Kieran Kinsella
251 Posted 27/03/2021 at 13:42:27


Derek Knox
252 Posted 27/03/2021 at 13:43:27
Colin G @ 230, I am surprised by you there mate, in taking anything the Echo says with anything other than a pinch of salt. The only one that would even merit a casual glance by me, is one that is by David Prentice, seems to be the only one with the Blues interests genuinely at heart.

On matchdays eager to know the team news, I have hitherto, fallen for it so many times. 'Team News' only to find it is by some Echo journo who has nothing else to fill the spaces, and it is one that he predicts, usually bearing little or no resemblance to the actual one released an hour before kick-off.

Brian Harrison @ 232, a very good point you raise regarding the naming of the stands after the most historically successful managers, and rightly so, but aren't you forgetting that, assuming Carlo stays with us, and he has given every indication he is happy to do so, he may, by the time the new stadium is completed, have surpassed the obvious candidates? Maybe there can be joint named Stands, ie, the Kendall/Catterick End.

I also think possibly the greatest player of his era and one that definitely put Everton on the footballing map, Dixie Dean deserves a tribute in some way or another.

Can't leave Kenwright out either, how about Boys Pen Bill's Tuck Shop as one of the Catering Outlets?

Then there are so many players too that have made a lasting impact, albeit in different eras, it becomes a difficult one!

Editors: I think this may deserve a thread on it's own, and if possible a 'pooling of the inventive TW minds' to suggest possible names to be put forward to Everton FC in the early stages, and even if they don't don't use any, it will be an interesting exercise and who knows we may even get a ToffeeWeb Stand. (Or a toffee apple stand :-))

Paul Turner @ 242, Jeez, Captain Beefheart. Wow, that does take me back, must be around 1969-70 when I first heard of him. I erroneously thought until I saw the spelling that he was "Captain B Fart", which I thought was a bit risque even then, but he or his group was definitely an acquired taste. Though having a quick check on Wiki, he apparently had a career stretching from 64-82 producing 13 Albums.

Proving ToffeeWeb is not only a great online fan forum but also a host of knowledge and a source stories from eras almost forgotten, plus having in the main a great Membership of True Blues. That plug alone, must be worth a brownie point or two, Eds!

Mike Corcoran
253 Posted 27/03/2021 at 13:43:31
Paul Turner @242,

Good to see the good Captain get a mention on here. My eyes are a blue million miles!

Mike Corcoran
254 Posted 27/03/2021 at 13:45:04
I’ll be able to keep an eye on the build from my bedroom window over the water.
Danny O’Neill
255 Posted 27/03/2021 at 13:55:25
Holy Trinity Stand to recognise the 3. I for one think Colin Harvey's service to "his" club deserves way more recognition. From boyhood supporter to 16 year old debutant, one of our greatest midfielders by all accounts (funnily enough overlooked by England - yawn). Instrumental coach and the missing ingredient that took us to 80s success. Manager and head of youth who Wayne Rooney cites as a massive influence on his development. A giant of Everton; when I watch Howard's Way, he has me dusty eyed every time!

I don't think now is the time for told-you-so's. Fate has taken us to Bramley Moore Dock however painful that journey and the wait has been. We've needed to renovate or leave Goodison for 30+ years. Those who wanted and were excited by the Kings Dock wanted the best for Everton. Those who saw merit in the Kirkby project, however alarming and underwhelming, saw it at the time as a better option than staying at Goodison. Getting wound up over an imaginary "Scouse" boundary between Croxteth and Kirkby never came into the equation for me. Go tell John Conteh, Phil Thompson and Leighton Baines they aren't scousers because of a council boundary. I advocated considering Speke (plenty of land, probably the best ready made transport connections available), but that was seen to be "uprooting" from our north Liverpool roots.

Those who supported BMD all wanted the best for Everton. We are finally doing this and it just so happens the cards couldn't have fallen in a better place. Be happy - be Everton.

Ian Pilkington
256 Posted 27/03/2021 at 13:55:27

The new stadium will be well served by rail.

Sandhills Station on Merseyrail's Northern Line is 3/4 mile way, as Danny stated, a 15' walk. There is also a plan (not directly related to the stadium development) to open a new station at Vauxhall, nearer the city centre but slightly further away than Sandhills to Bramley-Moore Dock.

The service is normally 12 trains an hour from Liverpool Central Monday-Saturday, reduced evenings and Sundays to 8. In the opposite direction the trains run from Southport via Central to Hunts Cross and from Ormskirk and Kirkby to Central only.

There is a crossover near Sandhills which could allow additional trains on match days to run to and from Central.

Colin Glassar
257 Posted 27/03/2021 at 14:11:37
Derek, apologies for quoting the red Echo. I should know better.

As for naming stand,s I'd go for; The Dixie Dean Stand, The Howard Kendall Stand, The Holy Trinity Stand (for the home supporters – all standing) and The Goodison Stand in honour of our present home.

For those who want to show their gratitude to Boys Pen Bill may, I suggest naming one of the executive bogs after him, eg, The Bill Kenwright executive shitter? Just make sure you wash your hands before leaving!

Ian Horan
258 Posted 27/03/2021 at 14:17:28
Should name something at the Goodison legacy site after Bill Kenwright. All BMD accolades should be for Moshiri. Without Moshiri, we would still be looking for a free-lunch type of site.
Neil Copeland
259 Posted 27/03/2021 at 14:47:40
Surely it will be one of the couches in an executive suite that will be named after Bill Kenwright? They may be able to turn it into some sort of arcade game called “Arteta Cash Hunt” or whatever!

I think another on TW suggested in a different thread the stadium be called “Dean Park” which I think is a great name but unlikely given the naming rights money.

Brian Murray
260 Posted 27/03/2021 at 15:11:42
For Bill's legacy (no sniggering at the back), we could call a lounge the Blue Fountain, have cascading mini waterfalls as he's always prone to the Niagra Falls down his cheeks.
Rob Halligan
261 Posted 27/03/2021 at 15:30:26
Now that we know what the stadium will pretty much look like, ie, the outside of the stadium and the stands etc, does anyone have any ideas as to what the concourses will look like?

If what's on the video we've all seen where it shows bars the length of the concourse, and also the tunnel club area, then brilliant, but I don't think I've read, or seen anywhere what the actual concourse areas will look like.

Also, do we know how many executive boxes and suites there are going to be?

Alan McGuffog
262 Posted 27/03/2021 at 15:45:28
Hope there's pies.
Rob Halligan
263 Posted 27/03/2021 at 15:46:27
And Chang! 😨😨
Ray Said
264 Posted 27/03/2021 at 15:59:00
Brian (201),

No fear of me lapping you mate. The wheelbarrow I need for my belly will get in the way. I will see you and the other old fellas in the exclusive club for those over-60s who had the great good fortune to experience the glory days of 1970 and the mid 80s. I hope I can still make it up those stairs.

My everlasting respect to those born after those days and who have suffered but have given glorious support to the Mighty, Mighty Blues.

Massive respect to the quiet accountant who put has more than put his money where his mouth is and who is turning the waterfront Royal Blue.

Colin Glassar
265 Posted 27/03/2021 at 16:00:53
And some traditional greasy pork pies.
Mike Gaynes
266 Posted 27/03/2021 at 16:03:05
A bit outside the box, but perhaps a David France stand, or some sort of tribute?

This is a historic moment for the club, and no-one has done more to exalt and preserve Everton history than the good doctor.

Ray Roche
267 Posted 27/03/2021 at 16:08:41
Mike, a good idea but a David France Suite might be a more successful suggestion.
Daniel A Johnson
268 Posted 27/03/2021 at 16:35:25
Sooooo when does the first spade go in the ground?

Mick Davies
269 Posted 27/03/2021 at 16:49:55
Mike @266, that's good shout, though judging by his quiet, and in the shadows demeanour, I don't the good doctor would want that.

We could honour our present skipper with, The 60 Grandstand, or a Dixie 60 stand. Maybe, with so many candidates, like Labby, Bally, Big Nev etc, each turnstile could have a name above it, instead of a number.

Colin Glassar
270 Posted 27/03/2021 at 16:58:26
Isn’t it a bit weird naming something after a living person, Mike? I find it odd.
Danny O’Neill
272 Posted 27/03/2021 at 17:19:22
Villa done that; the Doug Ellis stand. Hardly like he was the most popular owner either.
Derek Knox
273 Posted 27/03/2021 at 17:29:17
So many good and plausible suggestions, and realistically it is doubtful even if we, between us, came up with an absolute stonker, they would listen to our names, they have possibly already earmarked those, but it's fun all the same.

A pity we couldn't change the name of one stand every week to accommodate visiting fans, based on our 'history' with them. The Bell, or Knob End when Liverpool come to visit. The Arse End when the Gunners come. The Cow's Rear End when Manure come etc. :-)

Brian Wilkinson
274 Posted 27/03/2021 at 17:29:56
I am not too bothered about naming the four parts of the ground after former players, or managers, too many that could be added.

I would look at one suggested, of the Holy Trinity End, other than that, look for collective names for the remaining three parts of the ground with things connected with Everton Football Club, outside of players.

Have the approach way named, the Eddie Cavanagh Sprint Way :-)

Bill Gall
275 Posted 27/03/2021 at 17:45:39
With this announcement, I hope those people who consistently criticized Denise Barrett-Baxendale for being on the Board as she most probably knew nothing about football, now realize that what I used to say in her defense was true. There is a lot more to an organization like Everton FC than the Premier League team that they watch. Congratulations to all those who are responsible for this project.

I do hope this new stadium is not named after financial backers' companies. My own opinion would be the "Blue Horizon Stadium" rather than MegaFon.

Barry Rathbone
276 Posted 27/03/2021 at 17:59:28
Possibly "Dixie Land" as a name for the new stadium, a fitting homage to one of our greatest heroes and it comes with a world famous song. I've updated parts by popular request after my re-jigged "Royal Blue Mersey".

Oh I wish my pants weren't made of cotton
The fly hole's gone and my nob is rotten
Look away, look away, look away Dixie Land

It is work in progress but hopefully I'll have it finished in time for the Grammies...

Steve Stallwood
277 Posted 27/03/2021 at 18:08:40
Mike # 266,

Dr France is one the most devoted and knowledgeable Evertonians who has done so much for the club, buying, collecting and preserving its history with the best football artefacts collection in the world. So, rather than a stand, perhaps the Everton museum at the ground should be dedicated to him? The Dr David France Everton Museum.

John Crook
280 Posted 27/03/2021 at 18:23:23
I just pray that we can win at least one trophy before the final whistle in the final game goes at Goodison Park around May 2024.
Brian Wilkinson
281 Posted 27/03/2021 at 18:24:19
Where is this revamped updated Royal Blue Mersey song, Barry, it needs updating.
Brian Wilkinson
282 Posted 27/03/2021 at 18:31:00
The Royal Blue Mersey song in the sixties and seventies was great sung at the normal pace and bellowed out by the Street End, however when it is sung now, it is speeded up and rushed too much, a bit like an album being played on the 45 rpm setting.

Does anyone else think the same about how it is sung now?

Brian Williams
283 Posted 27/03/2021 at 18:50:08
Brian. Can't say I remember hearing it being sung since the "auld days".
Barry Rathbone
284 Posted 27/03/2021 at 18:51:29

Here it is

"𝐎𝐡 𝐰𝐞 𝐡𝐚𝐭𝐞 𝐛𝐢𝐠 𝐬𝐭𝐚𝐧𝐝𝐬 𝐰𝐡𝐞𝐧 𝐭𝐡𝐞𝐫𝐞'𝐬 𝐨𝐧𝐥𝐲 𝐨𝐧𝐞
𝐚𝐭 𝐁𝐫𝐚𝐦𝐥𝐞𝐲 𝐌𝐨𝐨𝐫𝐞 𝐰𝐞'𝐥𝐥 𝐬𝐡𝐨𝐰 '𝐞𝐦 𝐡𝐨𝐰 𝐢𝐭'𝐬 𝐝𝐨𝐧𝐞
𝐚𝐧𝐝 𝐰𝐞'𝐥𝐥 𝐡𝐚𝐧𝐠 𝐭𝐡𝐞 𝐤𝐨𝐩𝐢𝐭𝐞𝐬 𝐨𝐧𝐞 𝐛𝐲 𝐨𝐧𝐞
𝐎𝐧 𝐭𝐡𝐞 𝐛𝐚𝐧𝐤𝐬 𝐨𝐟 𝐭𝐡𝐞 𝐫𝐨𝐲𝐚𝐥 𝐛𝐥𝐮𝐞 𝐦𝐞𝐫𝐬𝐞𝐲"

I contacted Mr Moshiri about recording it in time for the first spade going into the ground but he must have an apprentice doing the emails because the reply appeared to say "I'll put a spade in your head if you don't pack it in."

I put it down as a typo.

Derek Knox
285 Posted 27/03/2021 at 18:53:10
Steve @ 277, Kudos to you Sir, personally I think that is a brilliant and fitting idea to have the Museum built into the new Stadium and rightly to name it after one of it's main contributors and researchers.
Neil Copeland
286 Posted 27/03/2021 at 19:03:50
Barry, stick with it mate, they have to take notice of such obvious talent.
Neil Copeland
287 Posted 27/03/2021 at 19:06:18
Barry, actually can I put forward a proposed modification to the first line please;

“As we start number 3 you haven’t built one”

The rest as per your fantastic piece of artistic genius.

Barry Rathbone
288 Posted 27/03/2021 at 19:09:43

That is much better. A big thumbs-up, my friend, we'll split the royalties!

Neil Copeland
289 Posted 27/03/2021 at 19:49:53
Barry, it’s a deal, thanks
Stuart Sharp
290 Posted 27/03/2021 at 19:51:10
I look forward to taking my seat in the Brett Angell end.
Derek Knox
291 Posted 27/03/2021 at 20:31:30
Stuart @ 290, best of luck there, I think you find you'll be rather wet, with an obstructed view, unless you have a periscope! :-)
Brian Wilkinson
292 Posted 27/03/2021 at 20:56:42
Neil and a Barry, how about amending the line to "we will hang the squatters one by one"? :-)
James Gardner
293 Posted 27/03/2021 at 20:56:46
Anyone else think it would be a nice touch to name the new stadium after our original and first home? How about "Bramfield"?
David Cooper
294 Posted 27/03/2021 at 20:59:47
Anyone think we will see the increased presence of Mr Alisher Usmanov connected to EFC?
Brian Wilkinson
295 Posted 27/03/2021 at 21:02:55
Already have, David, as long as he keeps outside of a board member, or associated with Everton, he can carry on ploughing his money through, without FFP getting their knickers in a twist, due to direct involvement.
Neil Copeland
296 Posted 27/03/2021 at 21:06:14
Brian #292, sounds good to me, mate.
Brendan McLaughlin
297 Posted 27/03/2021 at 21:13:40
Thomas #142,

“I've looked over, and I've seen the promised land. I may not get there with you, but I want you to know tonight that we as a people will get to the promised land. So I'm happy tonight."

David Cooper
298 Posted 27/03/2021 at 21:15:47
If Mr Usmanov gets his naming rights bid accepted and the ground is called USM Arena, how about naming the stands Stalin, Lenin, Trotsky and Putin!
Kieran Kinsella
299 Posted 27/03/2021 at 21:20:33
Call it The Gunfight Stadium — so Moyes knows what to expect!
Barry Rathbone
300 Posted 27/03/2021 at 21:51:14
Brian 292,

Trouble is, no-one else will know who we're talking about... clever though

Brian Wilkinson
301 Posted 27/03/2021 at 21:51:34
Bit unfair to only have Lenin, David – after all, Macca is a Blue.
Danny O’Neill
303 Posted 27/03/2021 at 22:23:20
Brian @282, it's not just Banks of the Royal Blue Mersey. Evertonians for decade get overexcited and sing too fast. It's why our atmosphere is more about the noise and passion. We simply are not a choir like the shower across the park, whether we like it or not.
Neil Copeland
304 Posted 27/03/2021 at 22:41:33
Danny #303, who cares about that shower? They will never be as privileged as we are.
Danny O’Neill
305 Posted 27/03/2021 at 22:49:35
We are privileged and have humility, Neil. They are entitled and lack class.
Brian Wilkinson
306 Posted 27/03/2021 at 22:49:59
We sing we shall not be moved and we're on the March with whoever's army at the right pace, and to me sounds better and louder. Screw them across the Park, they only know one song.
Neil Copeland
307 Posted 27/03/2021 at 22:54:49
Danny and Brian, Yesssssss, COYFB. We are Everton and let no one forget it.
Brian Wilkinson
308 Posted 28/03/2021 at 02:34:57
Here Barry, how about this one:

We're on the march with Carlo's army
We're all going to Bramley-Moore
They'll be crying on the Kop
Cause their longboats cannot stop
Cause we've taken up the mooring on the docks.

Mike Gaynes
309 Posted 28/03/2021 at 03:27:22
Colin #270, why wait? Why not show the appreciation while he can... er... appreciate it?

Besides, naming things for living figures isn't at all unusual in football. The Bernabeu was named while Bernabeu was plenty vigorous. Argentinos named their stadium for Maradona 20 years ago. Cristiano's name is on a galaxy. And didn't I read somewhere that there's a Tim Cahill Expressway in Australia?

But I think Ray #267 is right. A suite would be perfect. Two, in fact. One for David, one for Elizabeth.

Late edit: just read Steve's suggestion at #277. Brilliant. That's it right there.

Kieran Kinsella
310 Posted 28/03/2021 at 04:38:21
Mike Gaynes,

It's not the English way. We have four stages: we build people up (Churchill, Beckham); then after a few years we say “actually he's a wanker”; then when they die we commemorate them as great people; then lastly revise history post Mortem (couple of years for Jimmy Saville; 50 years for Churchill); then say “Nah, actually, he was a wanker after all."

Steve Brown
311 Posted 28/03/2021 at 05:55:16
Bloody hell Kieran, putting the paedo Jimmy Savile in the same bracket as Winston Churchill!
Mike Gaynes
312 Posted 28/03/2021 at 06:46:05
I'll second Steve's motion, Kieran... probably the first time those two names have ever been side-by-side in the same sentence.
Derek Thomas
313 Posted 28/03/2021 at 07:34:31
We all known it will be either The USM, or maybe, The Megafon Stadium, but it Should be .

The W R Dean Stadium,
New Goodison Park,
Bramley-Moore Dock,
Regents Road L5 9SR.

(The post code is for the pub over the road, so it should be near enough.)

Danny O’Neill
314 Posted 28/03/2021 at 07:51:49
I get your sentiment, Kieran. It's the preying British media's way. Build them up to the point the national hero is on such a pedestal it is too easy to knock them off it. They do it with footballers all of the time.

I like the postcode one, Derek. How must the owner of the Bramley-Moore Pub be planning investment and renovation a plenty? It's like they've just won the lottery!

Peter Foy
315 Posted 28/03/2021 at 08:02:45
The first concert should be Paul McCartney.
Derek Knox
316 Posted 28/03/2021 at 08:33:57
Peter @ 315, while commercially that should be good business, on another note (excuse the unintended pun), Paul McCartney has alleged many times that he leans towards Everton. Yet has done absolutely zilch as far as I am aware when we were struggling to either donate, buy shares (from/with his vast millions), or even have a Benefit Concert with proceeds going to Everton FC. So why should we now that times are a lot rosier for us, make him even more?

Though ostensibly we would receive some sort of revenue from a Concert, it gets back to the dichotomy, as alluded to in the first two paragraphs. Compare that to Tony Bellew, he said if he ever got a shot at the World Title the venue had to be Goodison Park, being a True Blue (take note, Sir Paul, not that you're likely to be reading TW) knowing it would fulfil not only 'his dream' but also bring in revenue and publicity. Full kudos to Tony Bellew.

Dave Abrahams
318 Posted 28/03/2021 at 08:48:20
If you are going to have a concert, then get the best in, Paul McCartney? He wasn't much cop in his prime, as a singer, Writing great songs with Lennon, yes, very good. Some of those songs will last a long time. Singers? There wasn't a really good singer between the four of them!!

If you want the best, get The Boss in for concerts, Bruce Springsteen. He'll have the place rocking, just my opinion.

Joe McMahon
319 Posted 28/03/2021 at 08:52:59
Dave, by far the best "older rockers" I've seen and still awesome live, it has to be Iron Maiden. But the Foo Fighters opening the stadium would engage with many generations. And loud!
Alan McGuffog
320 Posted 28/03/2021 at 09:04:59
Such a shame Leonard Cohen is no longer available to get us off to a rip-roaring start.
Darren Hind
321 Posted 28/03/2021 at 09:13:05
I would like to see Colin Harvey (for me, the greatest living Evertonian) have some sort of role to play in an opening ceremony.

A living reminder of our glorious past taking us into what hopefully will be a glorious future.

Danny O’Neill
322 Posted 28/03/2021 at 09:38:09
What I said earlier, Darren. Boyhood blue, one of our most revered midfielders, winner, instrumental coach in our most successful era, manager and head of youth overseeing Rooney's emergence.

More than deserves your tag of greatest living Evertonian.

Matt Byrne
323 Posted 28/03/2021 at 09:38:49
That is a great idea from Darren. Maybe alongside Joe Royle.
Joe McMahon
324 Posted 28/03/2021 at 09:40:54
Matt and Darren, I was just about to post the same. Joe Royle also.
David Greenwood
325 Posted 28/03/2021 at 10:33:05
I'd like to see the new stadium called St. Domingos.

I know that won't happen but there should at least be a St. Domingos Way.

Colin Glassar
326 Posted 28/03/2021 at 10:34:36
The Amanda Holden stand. That would get bums on seats.
Thomas Richards
327 Posted 28/03/2021 at 10:37:56
Great shouts on Colin Harvey.
An absolute must
Dave Abrahams
328 Posted 28/03/2021 at 10:45:44
Alan (320),Leonard Cohen, now you’re talking what a talent with a brain to match, Everton could always play his music.
Tony Abrahams
329 Posted 28/03/2021 at 10:50:14
Anyone with property in this area will feel like they’ve won the lottery Danny, but house prices have gone mad all over Liverpool, since this pandemic started, and just along from the Bramley Moore, there is another pub called Bar Coast, and although I think it had been closed for a while, (they even found a crop in the flats above) they look like they’ve just finished regenerating the building and it looks brilliant.

I’ve always said it’s no good just having just one pub, and I keep thinking about the transformation of Melbourne, in those links sent by Laurie H. This whole area is going to be transformed, and another couple of miles up the road Liverpool 2, is possibly going to become the busiest port in the country once all these trade deals start kicking off with America, and the resurgence of both Everton and the City of Liverpool, really begins!

Thomas Richards
330 Posted 28/03/2021 at 10:56:29

Drove along the Dock Rd yesterday.
The space between the ground and Pier Head will be full of pubs, restaurants.
Im made up for Rob Burns sister who has the Bramley Moore.
Massive input to KEIOC Rob.

Alan McGuffog
331 Posted 28/03/2021 at 10:56:34
Dave as Leonard should have composed.."I have seen the future, it is Bramley "..Or then again..." So long Goodison " " First we take the Liver..then we take the Dock"
Michael Kenrick
332 Posted 28/03/2021 at 10:57:00
I see that Historic England have responded:

“We recognise the Secretary of State’s decision not to call in the proposals for the new Everton Stadium for his own determination. We appreciate that the Secretary of State for the Ministry of Housing, Communities and Local Government (MHCLG) has to consider many other factors related to the proposals, alongside heritage, in reaching his decision.

"As the government’s heritage adviser, we are a statutory consultee on heritage matters and we have provided advice about the Everton stadium on these grounds alone. We understand the strength of feeling for the stadium among many Liverpudlians and respect the process which has led to this decision.”

Fair play. They had a duty to assess the potential damage to heritage elements and that is what they did, always recognizing that the potential benefits would likely outweigh any heritage concerns.

Thomas Richards
333 Posted 28/03/2021 at 11:02:59
". We understand the strength of feeling for the stadium among many Liverpudlians"

He got that one wrong

Mal van Schaick
334 Posted 28/03/2021 at 11:03:57
Great news on the new stadium, although great memories of Goodison Park, but its a new era and with our owner pressing on with the clubs ambitions with a vision of the new stadium, a quality squad (eventually) and the possibility of silverware in the future, then the future looks bright.
Peter Foy
335 Posted 28/03/2021 at 11:07:01
Derek Knox (316) using your methodology regarding Paul McCartney, we would never sign any great players like James Rodriguez because he wasn't interested in playing for us when we were crap.
David Abrahams (318) you say Paul McCartney wasn't much cop in his prime but then suggest Bruce Springsteen. Now, not that I have anything against Springsteen, but you should probably stick to football.
Dave Abrahams
336 Posted 28/03/2021 at 11:13:08
Alan (331)yes Alan I’d take “ So long Marianne” with Goodison taking the place of Marianne, so many verses fit in well.
Chris Hockenhull
337 Posted 28/03/2021 at 11:23:02
Lots of references to songwriters whom I like (apart from our cheery thumbs up merchant). It won’t happen as stadium gigs are becoming less favourable with a lot of musicians but I’d loved to have seen His Bobness perform at an Everton ground. That would have bonded my two loves together. But he did make a visit very close to BMD in 1966 which I documented in that BBC film where I identified the location in Dublin St and tracked down the unsuspecting participants that day. The eerie link being that day 14 May 1966. Anyhow, it’s been a better season than most of us thought and this week has brought forward for once great news for us Blues. (The reaction on the Red Echo sites from RS lot has been vitriolic at times at a bile a minute level). It certainly been a week that’s wound the RS us though. Stay Tangled Up In Blue folks.
Rob Halligan
338 Posted 28/03/2021 at 11:25:28
Thomas # 333, just goes to show that nobody from Historic England has never stepped foot in the city of Liverpool.
Peter Foy
339 Posted 28/03/2021 at 11:28:09
Chris (337) you make a very valid point about stadium gigs. There's only a handful of artists in the world that could fill our new stadium. So where do we get four from every year?
Tony Abrahams
340 Posted 28/03/2021 at 11:37:48
I think we will find them Peter, I think once this pandemic is over people are definitely going to want to get out and live, so I’m hoping for Roger Waters, singing “comfortably numb” for our neighbours, although I don’t think anyone puts on a better live-show than Coldplay!
Derek Thomas
341 Posted 28/03/2021 at 11:38:58
Re. The opening Concert, a quick google of best live acts of 2020, doesn't offer to much for me. The Stones, Beyoncé, Elton John, Springsteen...and I wouldn't give you tuppence for Blackpink (had to Google them) Beiber, Sheerin and all the other shite least Eltons got a football connection.
Peter Foy
342 Posted 28/03/2021 at 11:40:28
Tony, comfortably numb, brilliant. Haha
Chris Hockenhull
343 Posted 28/03/2021 at 11:53:40
Peter (339) I assume you mean 4 gigs a year? I don’t know. Between late 70s to 90’s which was the era of “stadium rock” ( which in the main was horrible and that includes places like Earls Court and NEC etc) acts to play them were ten a penny. Those acts have either faded or returned to a preference to playing larger indoor theatres). Now you get the likes of “tribute” acts like The Australian Pink Floyd andThe Rolling Stones.😀 Forget the likes of Kylie filling out fifty thousand stadiums. It’s not as cut and dried thing putting concerts in football grounds. The retractable roof option could have changed that as it gives variation in terms of filling these stupid international breaks with the option of putting gigs in throughout the year and being able to reduce the inside seating to medium or high numbers by section g off parts of the auditorium depending on the acts popularity like MEN does therefore allowing a varied type of act to be put on there
Allen Rodgers
344 Posted 28/03/2021 at 11:57:52
Thomas @330 I'm also pleased the Bramley-Moore pub has survived all these years and will now prosper. Good luck to them, they deserve it.
When things return to normal, I'd like to bet they will attract a lot of new customers keen to see the pub and the future site of our stadium. Possibly before and after games at Goodison fans will be calling in too.
During the build they will be able to cater for site workers even in these H&S days. Can you imagine though, a building site in the 'old days ' with a pub next door ? The floors would be thick with plaster dust and the black stuff !
Brian Foley
345 Posted 28/03/2021 at 12:11:19
On the subject of ground naming Brian 274 and Bill 275 I like the Holy Trinity thing as a concept and making use of the other sides of the ground with a name to escape the aimless bowl effect.

On a very serious note we need the stadium name to have a very heavy impact name, I suggest The Merseyside Stadium. Everyone around the world knows the word Liverpool and the various credits it deserves as that named city. This is our chance to link Merseyside OUR Merseyside and by definition associate where Everton is, in Merseyside, which circles everything and in effect we can then own a bigger slice of the pie.

Any thoughts?

John Keating
346 Posted 28/03/2021 at 12:31:25
Quite surprised to hear Dan Meis praising the Worlds Greatest Evertonian
Seems Bill refused to take the easy cheap option on stadium design and build and insisted only the best regardless of price
Obvious he wasn’t paying a bolt towards it especially considering the shithouse he wanted us to move too in DK
Dave Abrahams
347 Posted 28/03/2021 at 12:31:50
Peter (335), if you haven’t got anything against Springsteen, why should I stick to football?
Danny O’Neill
348 Posted 28/03/2021 at 12:53:46
Careful with that positivity Tony, it's damned infectious!

Hospitality facilities will spring up as part of the development. They need to if we are going to take any pressure of local transport and traffic congestion, we need encourage people to walk from town to the ground. That needs refuelling and refreshment stops en-route to rest & recuperate before embarking on the next leg!!

I like the idea of referencing our greatest players and heritage but also like the idea of including the region and the river on which the stadium will reside in the name. "The {insert sponsor name} Mersey Arena" has a good sound to it.

Brian Williams
349 Posted 28/03/2021 at 13:20:22
Has anyone seen the latest comments from Dan Meis in the red Echo with regards to the stadium?

Not gonna please some people who won't have a good thing said about one particular person.

With regard to the stadium name: The Blue Mersey Arena?

Peter Mills
350 Posted 28/03/2021 at 13:28:42
Checkout Rockin 1000 performing Blitzkrieg Bop at the Stade de France on YouTube.

I’d settle for that at BMD.

Andy Crooks
351 Posted 28/03/2021 at 14:01:15
Would it not be appropriate for it to be The William Kenwright Stadium? With, perhaps, a Betty Turpin Stand?
Colin Glassar
352 Posted 28/03/2021 at 14:08:22
May as well have a Lancashire hotpot stand, Andy.
Rob Halligan
353 Posted 28/03/2021 at 14:14:37
Just to wind the RS up, call it “The Liver Bird Stadium”, or “The City of Liverpool Stadium”.
Colin Glassar
354 Posted 28/03/2021 at 14:24:22
The City of Liverpool Stadium I like Rob, but won't the tourists think it's theirs? I still don't understand why we took the name 'Everton' and let them call themselves 'Liverpool'.

Everywhere I used to go and people asked me what team I supported, most knew of Everton but were not sure which city they came from.

Danny O’Neill
355 Posted 28/03/2021 at 14:40:12
You know what, I do like the City of Liverpool; it is our City. But, like the Liver Bird, I just think it doesn't fly. It gives the impression of being Liverpool FC related. Sadly, they stole the name, the Bird and the brand many, many years ago.
Barry Rathbone
356 Posted 28/03/2021 at 14:43:48
I can't go along with any name including "Liverpool" in the title I have hardly been able to mention the word since the 70s. My stock answer when asked where I come from is " Walton, Merseyside - in the city".
Danny O’Neill
357 Posted 28/03/2021 at 14:50:02
I wrote some time ago, Barry, that as a very young boy, my father presented me a pair of jeans with a patch: "Proud to be a Scouser" it read. When I asked what a Scouser was and he informed me it meant I came from Liverpool, I got very upset. I kicked and screamed but was forced to wear those jeans. I cried most of the day.
Tony Abrahams
358 Posted 28/03/2021 at 14:50:19
Brian @349, Good on Kenwright but, at the end of the day, I don't think he will be paying for the stadium.

That's why I think John @346 calls it better, because I still shudder that a genuine Evertonian was prepared to move us to Donkey Derby!

The best bit was when Bestway went to the council and said that, if they could give them a suitable alternative, they were prepared to relocate and leave the land (on the edge of town, in the suburb of Everton) for Everton FC to develop a stadium.

"We can't go there because we would have to build bridges," said Wyness, but now Moshiri is prepared to fill the dock in, which is a damn-sight more expensive than a couple of walkway bridges, I'm sure!

People can give Bill Kenwright credit by all means... but surely those same people must understand why many don't people don't like or trust the man? Some will read what Dan Meiss said, and say "Good on Bill," whilst others will finish reading and think, if Everton would have tried to skim it by building something cheaper, then they might have met a lot more problems from both Unesco and Historical England.

One thing we can't deny our chairman, is that this is getting done during his time. Another being that, during his time, Everton have never gone so long without winning a trophy. But let's just look to the future, because it's time to leave the past behind!

Chris Jones (Burton on Trent)
359 Posted 28/03/2021 at 14:59:20
(Royal Blue) Mersey Stadium, or Merseyside Stadium for me.


Si Cooper
360 Posted 28/03/2021 at 15:06:59
The transition from the old to the new will be interesting. Wonder what opportunities for relocation there would be for any businesses in vicinity of Goodison who rely on matchday patronage to boost their coffers? Imagine there will be a lot of small businesses studying the permutations.
Is anyone thinking they will try to keep some of their pre-match rituals rooted in the past? A flood of taxis bombing down Everton Valley / Walton Rd towards the docks half an hour before kick-off?
Alex Scott and now Amanda Holden, Colin. Does your dedication to all things blue extend to little pills? 😉
Derek Knox
361 Posted 28/03/2021 at 15:14:00
S @ 360, " Does your dedication to all things blue extend to little pills? 😉 "

I suspect they may be more diamond shaped and Blue! :-)

Rob Halligan
362 Posted 28/03/2021 at 15:21:57
Si, I've often thought about people changing matchday routines, particularly for those who would still like to use the pubs around the County road area or the Winslow etc. It might mean making their stay in the pubs near Goodison a bit shorter, but will there be soccer buses running from County road to BMD, and then back. It wouldn't take long for the journey either way, plus I suppose it would help the pubs near Goodison still make a few quid on a matchday.
Danny O’Neill
363 Posted 28/03/2021 at 15:22:17
You just made me think of pre-match rituals Si.

In my teens, 2 options. Finish paper round and then around midday, take the 81 from Speke to Queen's Drive / Walton Lane and then make our way to queue outside the Gwladys Street from about 1:30pm to get a good spot. Or, train from Hunts Cross to Kirkdale, same detail. If I got a lift or went with my Dad, for some reason he favoured the Anfield Pub on Walton Lane as the pre-match watering hole.

Nowadays, I get off the train at Lime Street, have a couple in the North Western / Whetherspoons - I have to say, "Spoons" has surpassed themselves with that one. Then Uber to Goodison.

Now I'll be able to walk - providing there are sufficient resting stops en-route!

Barry Rathbone
364 Posted 28/03/2021 at 15:35:07
Danny 357

My reaction would have been similar.

Were you getting the #81 in the late 70s? I lived in Woolton for a few years and that was my bus to the match. Always remember skinheads chasing the bus after my mate put 2 fingers up to them near the Jolly Miller. How we prayed for the lights to stay on green

Danny O’Neill
365 Posted 28/03/2021 at 15:47:14
During the 80s Barry. I had a house in Woolton from 1996 through to 2007. Loved living there; nice part of the city with it's own self-contained centre.
Rob Halligan
366 Posted 28/03/2021 at 16:02:22
Barry / Danny, where about in Woolton did you live? I'm not that far from there now, and me dad used to run a pub, The Victoria, in Quarry Street.
Danny O’Neill
367 Posted 28/03/2021 at 16:03:51
Charterhouse Road Rob.

My family are still mainly based in Speke, Garston and Hale.

Stephen Vincent
368 Posted 28/03/2021 at 16:06:44
Rob# 362. Already trying to work out how long it will take to walk from the Royal Oak to BMD. Been having pre match pint in there all my adult life (almost 50 years) and quite a few years with coke and crisps on the step outside before that.
We will never win anything if I can't get to the Oak!
Rob Halligan
369 Posted 28/03/2021 at 16:14:06
Danny, Hale as in Hale village, with all its thatched roof cottages? Lovely part of the area. Love going to the Childe of Hale pub with the missus (when it's open!!), and also walking down to the lighthouse. Could maybe get Brent to pick us up from there in his pedalo when we move to BMD, though it could be a bit too far for him to pedal along to BMD!!
Brent Stephens
370 Posted 28/03/2021 at 16:18:12
Rob, buy me a pint and I'll risk being breathalysed and fined for being in control of a pedalo while under the influence.
Rob Halligan
371 Posted 28/03/2021 at 16:18:25
Stephen, # 368. I'm sure if plenty wanted to stick to their present day match routine, I'm sure they will find a way. A taxi is only about £6 - £7 from Wetherspoons by Lime Street to County Road, so five lads, £2 each. Got to tip the driver!!
Danny O’Neill
372 Posted 28/03/2021 at 16:22:28
Yes Rob, Childe of Hale. The Wellington ("Welly") is also a good spot. I'm up for that!

Go Uber. I thought it was cheap in London. I pay about £3 from Lime Street to County Road. Or did the last time I was up!

Derek Knox
373 Posted 28/03/2021 at 16:43:57
Talking of pubs, especially nearer to BMD, I used to go fairly regularly to The Atlantic a bit further along, with real sawdust on the floor. A Sunday afternoon session was the highlight, they used to have two decent groups on between one o'clock and about half past five. Sometimes one group (rarely) and a jam session, to fill in, they were all fair musicians to be honest, and sometimes a sing-song.

In the same building adjacent was the Iron Horse, where it was strictly yee ha Country and Western, with some of the attendees, dressing up as erstwhile Wild West Saloon clientele. Always believed that a bit over the top myself and not my cup of tea, but they were doing no harm, and enjoying themselves at the 'Hoedown'.

Last time I drove along there I believe they were all shuttered up, but as someone mentioned before, the regeneration may see them have a new lease of life. The Dominion was another a bit further along that used to have the Figurehead off a ship mounted on the roof. Then there was Sherlock's, a bit of a seedy den of iniquity as I recall. At the extreme end towards Seaforth there was the Dockers Pub The Caradoc.

You could go in there in the early hours of the morning, say 07.30am when all appeared to be quiet from the outside, to find it almost 'full', with someone on a banjo, piano, squeezebox or a fiddle and all in full swing, while the ale flowed freely. Had to be seen to be believed, I often wonder what happened to all those 'characters' that used to frequent it, probably carrying on in that Caradoc beyond!

Brian Wilkinson
374 Posted 28/03/2021 at 17:16:21
How about the whotles opening concert at the new stadium, who are the whotles I hear you ask.

It is my Sgt Pepper Mark two band assembled of Paul McCartney, Ringo Starr, Pete Townsend and Roger Daltry.

Kieran Kinsella
376 Posted 28/03/2021 at 18:51:01
Kenwright will probably get the Bootleg Beatles and Lulu for the grand opening with Jimmy Cricket as MC.
Brian Wilkinson
377 Posted 28/03/2021 at 18:54:17
Love it, Kieran.
Chris Williams
378 Posted 28/03/2021 at 19:02:27
I’m hoping for plenty of pubs and bars as part of BMD development. Otherwise I’ll do my usual of train to Moorfields and one of the handy old boozers and a taxi to the ground.
Brian Wilkinson
379 Posted 28/03/2021 at 19:02:52
Rob @338,

Further to your post on Historic England, interesting to see that they have not given one single penny to have the outer walls repaired, but happy to allow Everton to pay for the repair work, and restoration of the water tower.

Fair play to Everton for stumping up the money, to repair the walls.

Tony Abrahams
380 Posted 28/03/2021 at 20:46:45
Stephen @368, I’d say the walk is mostly down hill and would probably take around 25 minutes, or it would be about a fiver in a cab.
Ron Marr
381 Posted 29/03/2021 at 00:04:19
This is so exciting. I can't wait to go to the stadium Looks like the fans will be close to the field. Long may the opposition think it's the toughest away game.
Bill Gall
382 Posted 29/03/2021 at 16:59:46
I mentioned the Blue Horizon Stadium, and the reason for that was, like myself there must be thousands of Evertonians who have come back from the Isle of Man on a ship, and the first thing you see on the horizon is the Liver Building, and you know you're home.

When this new stadium is built, this will be one of the first buildings you will see lit up in blue, on the horizon, in sight of cruise ships and other ships bound for Liverpool.

Colin Glassar
383 Posted 29/03/2021 at 17:05:34
Kieran, more like The Scaffold doing ‘Lily The Pink' and The Spinners doing their version of ‘Dirty Old Town'. I can just see teary eyed Bill in the chorus singing his heart out...
Kieran Kinsella
384 Posted 29/03/2021 at 17:36:06
Colin, lol. I actually have an old tape cassette of The Spinners rendition.
Brian Wilkinson
385 Posted 29/03/2021 at 17:53:48
I can see Bill in a bright yellow hard hat and a hi-viz jacket, Colin. With a tear in his eye saying, "We tried very hard but, at the end of the day, we had to allow the move, as I will not be paying one single penny to the new stadium. I told Dan Meiss at the early stages, not to cut corners and to spend as much as it takes, now where's the scissors for me to cut the ribbon?"
Peter Foy
386 Posted 29/03/2021 at 22:17:57
Surely the stadium will be named whatever Usmanov wants to name it. I'm sure he's already mentioned the USM Arena and he's already paid £30 million for the privilege.
Bill Watson
387 Posted 30/03/2021 at 02:40:04
Colin #354,

They also wanted to take the name 'Everton' and the original Everton (us) had to go to the FA to nip that one in the bud.

Houlding, our ex-landlord and their owner, settled on Liverpool FC but had problems with that, too, as there was already a Liverpool FC who happened to play rugby union. The way around that was for the dark side to include Athletic in the title.

I don't think it's that important, anyway. Most football fans know Benfica come from Lisbon and, closer to home, that Aston Villa is based in Birmingham.

Dave Roberts
388 Posted 30/03/2021 at 08:37:23
Can I make a suggestion? When the club restore the hydraulic tower, the statue of the Holy Trinity should be transferred to it's summit so they can overlook the River and the city they graced as one of the greatest midfields that ever played the beautiful game.

That would make at least one old man very happy!

Mike Keating
389 Posted 30/03/2021 at 11:46:41
Derek #373 - The Dominion is still there and features on the front cover of my book; Secret Liverpool An Unusual Guide (available from Waterstones for all those who refuse to use Amazon). It hasn’t operated as a pub for a long time but did become a brothel before being raided by the police in 2008. It now contains business units and the iconic statue on the roof has been well maintained. Hopefully, many of these old ale houses will get a new lease of life.

Rob #366 - I went on a pub crawl around Woolton in the early 80s and recall the Victoria as being voted #1 at the end of a very long evening - is it still going?

Allen Rodgers
390 Posted 30/03/2021 at 15:32:18
Mike @ 389, your book sounds like my kind of thing, I just ordered one from World of Books.

I well remember walking from Pier Head up the Dock Road about 30 years ago and seeing all the closed-up pubs. I always imagine the great afternoons and nights that the lads enjoyed in those places. Never thought they would all come back but some will.

They always say when looking at old buildings – look up, if you want to see the history. Never more true than in the case of the Dominion and its links with the timber trade.

Mike Keating
391 Posted 30/03/2021 at 16:46:36
Good man, Allen #390,

I hope you enjoy the book; there's a whole section on the Waterfront and fond mentions of St Luke's and Mother Noblett's Toffee Shop elsewhere. I also make the case for the claim that Everton were probably the first club to have a mascot and a nickname.

Liverpool get a mention but only to remind them that we bequeathed them a ground to play on and their very first strip.

nb: If you decide to use the map on page 10 to plot your pub crawl to Bramley-Moore Dock on matchdays, please ignore the error which confuses the location of the Bridewell pub with the Border Force Museum (not a good place for a pint).

Billy Bradshaw
392 Posted 30/03/2021 at 18:09:10
Still plenty of red noses convincing themselves that we're not going to come up with the money to build the stadium; this is now their last hope.
Harry Wallace
393 Posted 31/03/2021 at 12:43:52
Wonder when this project starts. Hopefully in April 👍🏻
Billy Roberts
394 Posted 01/04/2021 at 07:59:48
Harry @393,

I have just drove past Bramley-Moore Dock and work has most definitely started, there are diggers, JCBs, etc lots of heavy construction equipment in place.

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