David Beckham’s production company brings a four-part series telling the story of England’s Premier League, from its founding in 1992 to its present-day success and its short-lived rival, the Super League.
It opens against the backdrop of a declining interest in football throughout the 1980s, until Rupert Murdoch’s new television network Sky took a punt on the breakaway Premier League. Vinnie Jones, Eric Cantona and Alan Shearer provide their memories.
Starts tonight at 9 pm on BBC Two
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1 Posted 06/09/2021 at 10:39:37
Now, I'm getting grumpier as I count down to my 50th (10 days to go). But I was cursing at the BBC this morning to the point my wife left for work early. Okay, they're plugging the documentary "Fever Pitch" that is on this evening. But some of the language "where it all began". Please spare me. To John McFarlane's series of articles, it's as if football didn't start until 1992.
I'm probably now starting to overthink. But to my parallels with Ancelotti. Did Howard see the writing on the wall? Yes, the main narrative of being denied the chance to compete in Europe holds strong. But he went to Bilbao, hardly a giant considering he was manager of the English champions. And with their transfer constraints in mind too. Shortly after, our only transfer outlay as champions of England was Ian Wilson. Yes, Ian Wilson. And then we had that unassuming & uninspiring Dr David Marsh character at the helm just a couple of years later "leading us" into the Premier League era.
The paranoia and conspiracy theories are kicking into my mind, but in true ironic Everton fashion, the rot set in when we were at the top of English football. To my Dad's generation, breaking up the title winning formula of 1969-70.
Only Everton can do that twice. It's only Monday morning! I might need to take the dogs out again!!
2 Posted 06/09/2021 at 11:27:33
It appears that my question of "Did football exist pre-1992?" has been well and truly answered, we are now being informed of the 'All-time Premier League records', no mention of anything that occurred prior to the formation of the 'all-singing, all-dancing' Premier League 29 years ago.
I have been mocked once or twice on this site for clinging on to the past, but I stick to my belief that going to the match in my youth was more enjoyable. We had no idea what was going on in the Boardroom nor did we care, we enjoyed or endured the game, we discussed events in the pub from Matchday evenings until mid-week when our attention then switched to the forthcoming fixture.
The standard of play is undoubtedly superior now but, for me, the enjoyment of the game has been lost. Hoping to see you at The Bramley Moore on the 25th when I can bore you a little more.
3 Posted 06/09/2021 at 11:36:01
4 Posted 06/09/2021 at 12:29:59
In 1970 we had a great team, which Catterick decided to rip up and replace with largely inferior players.
In 1987, Kendall looked at the end of his tether mentally, and the stories of his drinking were becoming increasingly regular. He won our title back and then, in my view, left for his own sanity to try something different.
The board pressed a reluctant Colin Harvey into the manager role and we trod water for a year, before spending big in 1988. There aren't many better Blues in my lifetime than Colin Harvey, but we needed a stronger manager to unite that clique-ridden, talented team. That wasn't Colin.
Given the confines the club pressed on him, Moyes did a cracking job and left for a better offer. That happens.
And so to today. I don't think there's a curse, or anything like that. We've become an ambitious club again under Moshiri. Unfortunately, that ambition has coincided with dreadful, expensive recruitment of managers and players.
In the last year, I'd say we have recruited better and this window was the day of reckoning we knew was coming, though I'd argue we have a stronger squad than at its start.
All of this has been self-inflicted. Of course Heysel had a dreadful impact, but nobody made us split up teams, recruit badly and overspend on poor players.
The present day issues, for me, are down to Kenwright persuading Moshiri that we were a well-run club that just needed 'money', as many on here regularly stated. Like any other badly-run business that gets a large injection of cash, we've just spent more money badly, then spent more to rectify the earlier mistakes.
On the pitch, I'd say we're starting to do things better. Off the pitch? Well, I don't recall any other badly-run business being bought out without significant change at the top, do you?
There's the problem - and that's self-inflicted, too.
5 Posted 06/09/2021 at 13:54:40
The old farts continue to bitch and moan (no offence to present company intended) about The Good Old Days but progress is indeed a wonderful thing, consigning these old ways of thinking and behaving to the annals of history. Football was given a fresh start thanks to the Premier League, followed progressively by all games eventually being televised live (except in the UK itself, remarkably... Covid notwithstanding).
It's a different game, of course – why would it remain the same? Things change, we move on, you can never, ever turn the clock back.
Live in the present. You can't beat it. But that's one thing Everton continue to struggle with. They put far too much effort into remembering the past, into being the very museum that Farhad Moshiri ironically warned us about. But they have so manifestly screwed up the challenge of living in the present, perhaps dwelling in the past is a natural defence mechanism?
6 Posted 06/09/2021 at 14:23:07
Paul 4 - My own 'dwelling points' is what would it have looked like had we won either or both of the March 1971 games and how would it have been if we had signed Archie Gemmill who fitted the style and quality much better than Catterick's subsequent buys. Harry remains my favourite manager but there is no doubt the last 30 months of his tenure dented his rule overall which is a shame.
A further point which I think should be added to your list is the hiatus in the boardroom with the illness of John Moores around 1985/86 - his subsequent house robbery where he was assaulted (it was featured on the BBC Crimewatch programme at the time) and the lack of board leadership 1986-1993 at his death were massive factors - I agree with you that Colin Harvey is a nailed on top 5 of all time but not sadly as a manager - I am sure Mr John knowing him so well would have not appointed him if he was in full health.
7 Posted 06/09/2021 at 14:43:49
Totally agree with your point of living in the past. And things needed to change. Absolutely. I remember being a 14 or 15 year old and being punched and beaten over a car on one of those terraced streets just off the Bullens Road by a Southampton fan. I was walking to Queen's Drive to catch the 81d back to Speke. A kid who got knocked out.
And the trips to Manchester. I still recall being called Scouse bastards by the Police and a horse punched punched as they ring-fenced us. Yes the officials who where supposed to be there to police us but were out for a fight themselves and the poor animal who knew know reason why it was there.
I agree, much has changed for the better in terms of the the experience. Now don't get me wrong, I'm as nostalgic as they come when it comes to Everton. But in football, you're only as good as your last game or season. Over history (that's all it is), we've failed to capitalise on success and the opportunity the Premier League presented. Make history. Love it, reflect on it but don't live it.
Taking the dogs out again.
8 Posted 06/09/2021 at 14:48:29
Derek Dougan of all people is held responsible, at least according to the link above for the widespread shirt sponsorship that began to infiltrate the English league and thereby start to lessen the power of the match-going supporters.
It could be argued that from that point on Everton began to lose ground, and the European ban may have prevented the club, if it had wished to do so, cash in on its mid to late 1980s success.
I agree with Michael, the structure of the professional game in England was in need of repair during the 70s and 80s and until the TV companies became interested in radically altering the economics of the game, the many traditionalists remained steadfast in their desire to retain the status-quo.
I think many fans wanted to see change too, becoming tired of being herded into and out of stadiums, many of which particularly in the lower tiers were far from fit for purpose.
What we probably didn't expect and possibly should have, is the game became an even greater ruthless business that has sought to exploit every possible commercial route that is available and even the governing bodies both at home and abroad became more interested in the financial bottom line than the outcome of a sporting tournament.
Just today I've read that Arsene Wenger is advocating a World Cup every two years, with qualification games taking place in batches of qualifying groups during the football season, this he explains is not for financial reasons but in order to improve the game, yeah OK Arsene, I'll buy that - not!
It was fantastic for those of us who were fortunate enough to attend the games during the 70s and 80s and the great players and teams that were on show, but we mustn't forget that conditions for most fans during those times were mostly abhorrent and not at all conducive for families to attend.
As a teenager right up until adulthood, I had many an argument with the parents about whether it was safe to attend particular games at particular venues, I doubt that as many parents would have as many concerns in today's environment, although being parents they would still worry.
For better or worse, the game has changed radically, and even in the last decade it has changed completely even without our fully noticing it, players rumoured to be demanding half a million pound a week to play for an English Premier League club show how the game has altered, the players are the modern-day Popstars/Movie stars and they are fully aware of the wealth that they can generate for their clubs and their clubs need and want those star players to generate that wealth, in order to remain competitive, therefore, they by and large accede to the demands.
It's not the game I grew up watching, it's not the same in so many ways, but I can choose to withdraw my support or continue to ride the emotional rollercoaster and hope that somehow Everton FC becomes great again, by having a team that wins stuff - unfortunately the odds on that happening seem to recede with each passing season.
9 Posted 06/09/2021 at 15:06:21
When the club play their first game at BMD, it will be like T Rex (not Marc Bolan) waking up, let's just home the Dinosaur is up for it.
10 Posted 06/09/2021 at 15:12:08
11 Posted 06/09/2021 at 15:18:17
While not denigrating the great memories of our past history there is no doubt that while we had the vision to be one of the big 5 to lead the creation of the Premier League we failed to seize the opportunity to capitalize on the enormous growth in income and commercial opportunity it presented.
With the passing of Sir John Moores, we became run by a bunch of locals who didn't have the vision to build a team (off the pitch) of people of the right calibre.
The marketing at Everton was a joke with Peter Johnson writing things on a torn piece of paper for his overworked assistant Cliff Finch to deal with at Everton and Park Hampers.
They were then succeeded by a bit-part actor who continued the "amateur hour" show at Goodison Park, constantly claiming he had no money but failing to mention he also had no vision for the club.
The record amounts of money rolling in to the Premier League was seized on by the big hitters which unfortunately did not include us because it was still amateur hour at Goodison Park.
12 Posted 06/09/2021 at 15:36:08
Injuries, poor form, poor, short sighted off field decisions...Catterick was no longer at the top of his game, which led to poor on field replacements.
As somebody said on here years ago - We Don't do Dynasties.
But for a brief 2yr. spell, I saw the best football ever played...(nods to 1938-39)
13 Posted 06/09/2021 at 16:19:53
14 Posted 06/09/2021 at 16:21:13
Apart from the times when Everton were doing well, the Premier League has been a failure apart from one year when Everton finished 4th.
The reason why the likes of Man City, Chelsea have done very well in the Premier League is because of huge financial investment, when Everton have been financially left high and dry except recently when financial investment did not project Everton forward but was wasted by a succession of failed managers.
Their combined failures have put Everton at odds with the FFP, and won't be cleared until the end of the season, when the last of the players unwanted will have left the club.
I hope Benitez will stick around for more than just one season because he appears to know what he is talking about football-wise.
15 Posted 06/09/2021 at 16:47:06
Derek @12; we don't do dynasties. But fortunately like yourself, I've witnessed one of the best football teams I've seen and they wore Everton blue. I can only recall 2 dynasties; Liverpool and then United. Although would you say City are the next one? Who'd have saw that coming in my lifetime (born 1971)? Never say never and keep believing as they say!
Steavey Buckley. You always smack me down with a dose of reality!!! But I agree, we missed the boat. We were late to the game. We lived off our historical laurels and by the time we eventually got the money ladened owner we craved, the rules had changed, which has constrained us despite the wasteful nature of our spending.
We're Everton aren't we? I don't know how else to describe it!!
But he eternal optimist in me still sees us marching into Bramley Moore with a trophy under our belt and challenging once more.
Totally agree on Benitez. Despite my "disappointed" Danny stance when he was named, you cannot dismiss the man's footballing knowledge and professionalism. Maybe what we need instead of all of this romantic ex-Everton influence. If you want that, you could have given me the job.
16 Posted 06/09/2021 at 17:04:02
There's gross negligence, then gross recklessness, then the Everton owner/s-boardroom.
And yet Moshiri's personal fortune sees him now worth well north of £2billion even after all the mis-spending, and Kenwright wallows in the £millions he's squeezed out of all the dodgy contracts/sales he's overseen for thirty years.
You couldn't make it up.
17 Posted 06/09/2021 at 17:39:55
18 Posted 06/09/2021 at 18:46:33
19 Posted 06/09/2021 at 18:50:10
It's my belief that it's a football trait for one generation to pass the judgement of their experiences to their successors, I have no doubt that my Granddad told my uncles of the qualities of Alex 'Sandy' Young, Jack Sharp, and the Balmer brothers, etc. They in turn told me of the exploits of Bill 'Dixie Dean', Warney Cresswell, Alec Troup, etc.
I'm equally sure that the generation behind me will tell their successors that football is not what they witnessed, unfortunately I won't be around to bask in the glory of my prediction, or to be ridiculed for my views. I'll see you on the 25th 'God willing'.
20 Posted 06/09/2021 at 20:51:05
In reflection, I was pleased we both got to watch Howard Kendall play for Everton together. Very early in his Everton manager career when he was player-Manager. I think it was against Coventry and I always remember him barking orders out to Peter Eastoe. We were in the lower Gwladys Street. Even then, you could see the quality and the leadership. In hindsight, as a player, you could also see his frustration at what what around him!
My son has endured my tales of the 80s and I remain of the belief he will have his own tales to pass on.
As suspected, the wife is upstairs. I think the heard enough this morning so can't endure me while I watch this!!
21 Posted 06/09/2021 at 21:10:56
Beckham is a case in point the walking ad campaign became famous for taking corners and free kicks a fundamental attribute to players of a certain vintage.
I can hardly watch a game for more than 5 mins these days so dreadful is the fayre. if I could take a pill to wash out the interest in Everton and thus football I would. As exciting as Chess on grass the modern game.
22 Posted 06/09/2021 at 21:23:41
Just off the top of my head. In many ways not an athlete among them. However, guile, flair, tons of skill, and a desire to entertain. Some of them wouldn't get a look in today. They simply wouldn't fit the template.
23 Posted 06/09/2021 at 21:46:03
24 Posted 06/09/2021 at 22:16:10
They were right about having to rebrand and reinvent football. Stadiums were empty and wasting away. That's a valid call and we can't deny the standard of stadia has improved markedly. I remember Barnsley away in the cup and being stuck under the floodlight in the corner at Nottingham Forrest. Not to mention the away end at Norwich even though the occasion of seeing us win the league was fantastic.
Sadly, apart from a roof on the Gwladys and the Park End "golf stand" we can't say the same about Goodison. But Bramley Moore is on the horizon.
I was interested in Chris Waddle's comments on English football's mentality. Watching that again, you could see in his eyes, he had no faith and was always missing that penalty. He didn't want it; didn't want to be there taking it. He had no belief.
The Big 5. Everton part of it but not following through and taking their place at the table.
Alex Ferguson. 6 years and “ta-ra” signs. Akin to "Kendall must go" leaflets in 1983. I appreciate timelines are different now, but let's give managers more than 12 months.
The Ferguson & Schmeical comments on Cantona. Free spirit. Let him play. Confidence, arrogance, belief, finds movement & space. When you have players like that, you just have to let them play. They don't need coaching and as much as they'll frustrate you, they'll delight you and win. Let them do their thing.
Cantona's comments on over analysis of the game made me smile. Flair that only certain types of player bring that to a game. You can't teach that. To repeat, let them do their thing.
Sorry, that's a quick rundown. I surprisingly enjoyed that having thought I wouldn't!
25 Posted 06/09/2021 at 22:19:34
You could go on forever and that's just the Brits. Don't even go to the Brazilians, Germans and Dutch.
26 Posted 06/09/2021 at 22:27:43
I won't give as extensive a list, but here's a few in my lifetime.
Dalglish - possibly the best British footballer I've seen.
Alan Hansen - the original Jone Stones but better.
Peter Schmeical (one for the Keeper's Union)
I could be here all night. I'll stop!
27 Posted 06/09/2021 at 22:31:40
It was an enjoyable watch from a nostalgic point of view, but I wanted a little more meat on the bone as to the reasons why the Premier League was formed and how it has had a detrimental effect on those clubs outside of the top-flight.
There's still time for the series to examine this element, but tonight's show could have been bought and paid for by Sky as it was little more than a celebration of Murdoch and his merry men, having the foresight to buy the rights.
I did however enjoy seeing Cantona in his pomp and the way the players all got bevvied the night before the match after they had secured the title. I disagreed with Alex Ferguson saying that only United fans could recognise the ability and flair of a player such as the Frenchman.
I don't like Shearer now and his appearance on the show, reminded me how much I didn't like him then.
28 Posted 06/09/2021 at 22:43:29
Cantona was a joy to watch. Shearer, clearly a top striker but, as with Mark Hughes in my opinion, just not a likeable character.
29 Posted 06/09/2021 at 23:23:07
30 Posted 09/09/2021 at 05:01:13
Difficult to watch despicable people like Murdoch, Sugar and Andrew Neil making their millions from our attachment to our teams and communities.
Hated the horseback police herding us into Goodison and Anfield in the 70's / 80's, with their obvious contempt for us. I don't remember much violence around Goodison in those days, was I looking the wrong way?
The football was a different flavor to today's. More welly, crunch and thunder in contrast to the bowling green theatrics of today.
It was very affordable. The humor and camaraderie on the packed Gladwys St. was brilliant. Would often spot past and present Everton and Liverpool players driving around the Maghull of my youth. They weren't mega millionaires then.
Cantina wasn't the first interesting person to play football. The characters were there in abundance. Big Bob, Andy Gray, Reidy, Pat van H, Bailey and Mackenzie. That was just us. Contrary to the show, pre-Prem football had some fantastic attributes.
31 Posted 09/09/2021 at 20:31:09
I don't want to spend much time on this subject as I find it easier to speak than to write. I am looking forward to The Bramley Moore meeting and I don't want to put all my eggs in one basket. I must however concede that the game today is played at a higher speed than ever, by footballers immensely fitter than the players of yesteryear. but the constant passing of the ball sideways or backwards has lessened the excitement.
A lot of fans, in my opinion, mistake the long ball for kick-and-rush football, but a good long pass can take out four or five opponents. Most clubs appear to have adopted the Barcelona / Manchester City approach, without the Barcelona / Manchester City type of players. I know that my views are not accepted by some on this site but, given the choice, I would take the pre-Premier League attitude all the time (skill plus vigour).
32 Posted 09/09/2021 at 20:40:06
33 Posted 09/09/2021 at 21:12:27
34 Posted 09/09/2021 at 21:20:41
35 Posted 09/09/2021 at 23:04:24
36 Posted 11/09/2021 at 10:20:53
I totally agree with you about the long ball. I absolutely hate the monotonous passing sideways and backwards. I always thought Barcelona were boring to watch as I prefer the physical aggressive type of football. I loved watching players going in to a tackle full blooded. It's a non-contact sport now.
Personally I preferred the football before the Premier League started. Also, the atmosphere in the grounds is different as I think we lost something with all-seated stadiums. I loved standing in the Enclosure, roaring the Blues on.
37 Posted 11/09/2021 at 15:06:06
38 Posted 12/09/2021 at 17:00:34
Your starter for 10: What is going on in this picture?
39 Posted 12/09/2021 at 17:13:50
40 Posted 12/09/2021 at 17:21:56
41 Posted 12/09/2021 at 17:27:47
Eddie Hapgood, the skipper, allegedly told the British Ambassador he could shove the order where the sun don't shine before they felt the pressure enough to comply.
Just four months later the British PM famously waved his little piece of paper in the air saying Herr Hitler had agreed peace. More able translators now say Hitler told him to shove his piece of paper where the sun don't shine.
42 Posted 12/09/2021 at 17:56:11
The Germans insisted their ball be used but Dixie had a size 5 and at the toss-up, a discussion started which was settled when Dixie picked up the size 4, pressed it a couple of times then bounced it a few times and then kicked it out of the ground and announced that they would use "our ball".
43 Posted 12/09/2021 at 18:06:34
44 Posted 12/09/2021 at 18:42:37
The truth is rather more prosaic. Sports broadcasting in the UK was absolutely rubbish, and was obviously ripe for a revolution. Does anyone remember watching something on the Beeb only to be interrupted by Songs Of Praise or the sixth race from Exeter?
There were other factors too, and quite a few of them actually followed the start of the Premier League to give it further momentum. The political demise of Thatcher, the success of England at the Italia World Cup, the investment in stadiums that the Taylor Report compelled, rule changes like ending the backpass that made the game more exciting and the announcement of England as the host of the Euro 96 Finals all happened prior but the Bosman ruling, and the scrapping of the three foreigners rule (as an example, Man Utd had to play Gary Walsh in goal against Barcelona in 1994 because, to Uefa, Welsh, Scottish and Irish players were all "foreign") were vital changes too.
Bosman and the end of the foreigners' cap was the true final demarcation point. After that, players were all free to chase the money, and there were no restrictions to signing foreign talent. For the first time in its history, English football actually had a good reason to go and find good players from all around the world instead of trying to just develop them here.
When I was a small kid, Ossie Ardiles and Ricky Villa were the most exotic names in English football. The first year of Bosman and the ending of the foreigners' cap saw the arrival in England of Ravanelli, Di Matteo, Vialli, Zola, Anelka, Leboeuf, Vieira, Van Hooijdonk, Solskjaer, Tomas Brolin, Tino Asprilla, Patrik Berger, Karel Poborsky, Benito Carbone, Paulo Wanchope and many other foreign players that it simply wouldn't have been possible or even sensible for English clubs to have signed previously.
This period in the mid-nineties is pretty illustrative, and is probably best looked at through the prism of Scottish football. Following the ban on English clubs over Heysel, the big Scottish sides were able to recruit very strongly indeed. Rangers of the time fielded both Bryan Laudrup and Gascoigne and there were more than a few rumblings about inviting the auld firm south of the border to mutually benefit both Scottish and English football. That's how strong both clubs were.
Bosman and the foreigners' cap ending destroyed any remainder of a recruiting edge the Scottish clubs had enjoyed following Heysel, and indeed that 1996 season can be seen for what it is – the crossover year where English football begain its march to where it is now and the Scottish game went in the opposite direction, towards feeder league status and somewhat irrelevance.
Apart from the rebranding and reducing the number of clubs in the top flight to 20 – in addition to the powers the clubs had leveraged themselves by threatening to breakway – there was nothing at all different from the Premier League to the old First Division. Still a 90-minute game, of two halves, played in the same stadiums, with the same clubs and the same rules.
It's the lack of change actually caused by the foundation of the Premier League that ends my argument here. The Premier League was not responsible for the backpass rule change, England making the 1990 World Cup Semi-Final or being awarded Euro 96 to host.
The Premier League had nowt to do with the expiry of the Heysel bans nor did they invent or promote the invention of the subscription television that underpins the games revenue base to this day. The Premier League did not make the Bosman ruling happen, nor did it end the stupid and arbitary cap on "foreign" players.
It is for these reasons that I'm quite certain in saying that football would have enjoyed a resurgence with or without Murdoch and his blatant theft of our national sport. It is typical of the Murdoch clan to claim they played kingmaker when they were actually just astutely following public opinion. (John Major's election win and the Sun "It was the Sun what won it" as an example.)
The horseshit claim they saved the world's most popular sport from irrelevance really is just that, and should be treated as such.
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