Everton have concluded a deadline-beating move for Dele Alli, signing the 25-year-old from Tottenham Hotspur on a permanent deal that reportedly doesn't involve a financial outlay in terms of a transfer fee until next season at the earliest.
Dele becomes the Blues' fifth signing of the January transfer window following the arrivals of Vitalii Mykolenko and Nathan Patterson on permanent deals and Anwar El Ghazi and Donny van de Beek on loan in what is initially a free transfer.
According to media reports, the deal struck with Spurs chairman Daniel Levy commits Everton to paying £10m once the player makes his 20th appearance (with Dele cup-tied and only 18 fixtures left in the current Premier League campaign, that can't happen this season), with the final figure in the region of €40m if he plays 80 games.
Like his new manager, Dele has signed a 2½-year contract that runs until the summer of 2024.
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“I'm delighted to have signed for Everton, a huge club with a great fanbase and history," Dele said.“I'm eager to get started and can't wait for my first game in an Everton shirt.
“I'm looking forward to helping the team and the opportunity to work with the new manager Frank Lampard.
"I'm excited for this opportunity. I've had good conversations with Lampard already, I'm sure we're going do great things together. I just want to be happy playing football."
An exciting England U19 prospect, Dele was scouted by the likes of Bayern Munich and Liverpool and the subject of serious interest from Newcastle United before he was snapped up from MK Dons by Tottenham in 2015 for just £5m and he quickly set about not only repaying that modest outlay but became an integral part of a Spurs side that were challenging for the Premier League title within two years.
He then turned more heads on the international stage with a starring role for England at the 2018 World Cup as Gareth Southgate's men made it to the semi-finals in Russia. Within another year, Dele was a Champions League finalist having laid on two goals for Spurs' hero that night in Amsterdam, including the dramatic winner in stoppage time, and was being talked about in terms of a high-profile move to either Barcelona or Real Madrid.
It would prove to be the zenith of the Milton Keynes-born attacking midfielder's career to date, however, as the architect of the Londoners' ascendence, Mauricio Pochettino, left the club the following season and Jose Mourinho took charge.
Mourinho's aloofness and lack of communication is ofen cited as one of the big reasons for the alarming drop-off in Dele's form from that point on, although the player's own desire and commitment has been seriously questioned even if club insiders doubted the veracity of his "party animal" image.
Nevertheless, he fell out of Tottenham's squad altogether under the Portuguese, cutting an increasingly isolated figure at the North London club over the past 12 months.
An escape route to link back up with Pochettino at Paris Saint-Germain briefly appeared to open up during the 2021 January transfer window but he remained at Spurs and a fresh start under Mourinho's successor Nuno Espirito Santo never coalesced into anything tangible either.
Instead, he came into the winter window of 2021-22 having made just 10 Premier League starts, with a solitary goal scored back in August, and talk that Spurs head honcho Daniel Levy was prepared to listen to offers for him. It would take until transfer deadline day, however, and the appointment of Frank Lampard as manager at Everton, for Dele to get his move away.
Lampard, whose own switch from London was confirmed earlier today, was reportedly instrumental in luring the 25-year-old to Merseyside.
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1 Posted 01/02/2022 at 00:33:06
With Frank's lead, we will find out if he is motivated. I'm willing to believe he feels hard done by in his time at Spurs and will be willing to put in a shift. Getting back into regular action could then spark his considerable attack skills.
This is a very intriguing move and has all the indications that it will likely cause us to pay some money we will be most happy to fork over.
2 Posted 01/02/2022 at 00:39:54
It's up to him. Good luck fella!
Oh, and his haircut is absolutely mint. Those dreads are killer. Love it.
3 Posted 01/02/2022 at 00:41:35
At 25, we potentially have his best years ahead of us. If he can sort his head out and find the happiness in playing again, we've got an absolute steal.
4 Posted 01/02/2022 at 00:42:01
5 Posted 01/02/2022 at 00:48:43
He's narky and can play in several roles.
6 Posted 01/02/2022 at 00:48:46
7 Posted 01/02/2022 at 00:48:51
Happy with the incomings during January but seriously worried at centre-back still.
8 Posted 01/02/2022 at 01:00:28
I just hope Dele Alli finds his mojo again. COYB!
9 Posted 01/02/2022 at 01:05:34
10 Posted 01/02/2022 at 01:09:32
With these signings, I see Everton more on the front foot for a change.
Got Billy Crellin coming in as well from Fleetwood, young England goalkeeper.
So with a new right and left-back, a goalkeeper, three new midfielders, we have got 6 players in, sold our left-back, and are still £9 Million to the good on net spend.
I call that a damn good bit of business.
11 Posted 01/02/2022 at 01:12:15
Let's hope Dele winds up costing us the full £40 million and is worth every penny.
He was on £100k/week at Spurs. I will be very interested to see the salary terms in his new contract with us.
What a spectacular window under these chaotic circumstances. A new manager, four potential long-term starters and a solid reserve attacker. Yow!
12 Posted 01/02/2022 at 01:14:51
It feels positive that Lampard got the job over some of the names being bandied about... we will see.
We needed a striker and centre-back also but this has been better than most transfer windows for us.
13 Posted 01/02/2022 at 01:24:50
14 Posted 01/02/2022 at 01:37:38
It does make you wonder who and how many might be leaving in the summer given the new manager has barely set foot in the door and, if Dele Alli is seen more as a midfielder rather than a striker, but I certainly can't see all of Gray, Gordon, Townsend, Gomes or even Davies all starting with the two who have just joined.
15 Posted 01/02/2022 at 01:44:44
The other slight disappointment is neither are available for any of the FA Cup games, starting this Saturday, so we won't be able to see them in action till the week after. It does give them longer to train, familiarise themselves with the set-up and new team mates.
I think, like most Blues, I feel exhilarated again, and can't wait for games to come up, where before I was dreading them. COYB
16 Posted 01/02/2022 at 01:45:17
17 Posted 01/02/2022 at 02:21:58
It's become pretty clear for a while that our best players out wide and up top were suffering because we lacked any imagination in midfield. Dele and Donny need only be 80% of their potential and this is an excellent window.
I hear all the talk about centre-back being the biggest concern, but if Mina plays 75% of the remaining matches and Godfrey, Keane and Branthwaite improve just a bit under Lampard, we're just fine there.
My biggest concern for the rest of this season at least is at right -and left-back, especially on the left. I'll give Mykolenko time, but he's going to need it to get up to speed. And Patterson is still a big unknown. But in Frank we trust to figure it all out.
Gotta love sport and how rejuvenated and hopeful a fanbase can become in just a few weeks time.
18 Posted 01/02/2022 at 02:26:05
19 Posted 01/02/2022 at 03:01:38
20 Posted 01/02/2022 at 03:07:16
If you have a problematic American footballer that people on here will know, then just compare him with OJ Simpson.
21 Posted 01/02/2022 at 03:07:42
I'm well pleased we got him rather than re-signing the 6'-2" perennial mirage now very occasionally masquerading for Chelsea as a goal-scoring (NOT – ever, 25 in 200+ games says it all!) tackle-shy midfielder.
22 Posted 01/02/2022 at 03:19:44
23 Posted 01/02/2022 at 03:25:49
24 Posted 01/02/2022 at 03:26:49
25 Posted 01/02/2022 at 03:37:39
Of course, 24- or 25-year-old former internationals have no chance of rediscovering the form that made them internationals in the first place. That has never ever happened in the history of football before, I'm sure.
26 Posted 01/02/2022 at 03:38:51
Never really warmed to him at Spurs, mainly due to the silly dances when he scores, but I think I can stomach a few renditions of "the Floss" in front of the Gwladys Street when he's firing us to safety!
Welcome, Dele, a big few months ahead of you, lad.
27 Posted 01/02/2022 at 03:43:48
Allan in front of the defence. Kick anything not in blue.
Did an Evertonian just say that? How times have changed.
The rest falls in place depending on injuries.
Also, every training session: "Right lads, defending set-pieces… and later, defending set-pieces."
28 Posted 01/02/2022 at 04:02:08
29 Posted 01/02/2022 at 04:15:46
Said sign Donny Van,
And get Dele Alli on the way…
30 Posted 01/02/2022 at 04:29:51
31 Posted 01/02/2022 at 04:59:17
I'm a massive NFL fan so I also know who OBJ is.
I'm absolutely delighted with our business today. UTFT!
32 Posted 01/02/2022 at 05:31:18
A good transfer window with little outlay. Hopefully the ending of contracts this Summer will provide more wiggle room for Frank to bring in more players and with the help of developing youth into the first team.
33 Posted 01/02/2022 at 05:52:22
I'm not on board with Dele Alli. Although I would be delighted to be proven wrong of course.
34 Posted 01/02/2022 at 06:17:29
A 4-3-3 line-up of:
Richarlison, Calvert-Lewin, Gray
Van de Beek, Allan, Alli
Mykolenko, Branthwaite, Mina, Patterson
It looks very exciting attacking wise, but not sure defensively. Also, we need to give time to the new players to settle down – Mykolenko, Patterson, Alli, Van de Beek.
Also, the squad looks very bloated now. In the summer, we need these players off our books – Delph, Gomes, Iwobi, Tosun, Rondon, Kenny, Holgate. And replace this lot with 2-3 quality signings – a dominant centre-back and a defensive midfielder and a back-up striker.
35 Posted 01/02/2022 at 06:18:30
And whatever Lampard is known for as a manager, taking it easy on people ain't one of them. If Alli doesn't perform, Lampard will bench his ass. And then we won't have to pay up big money for him.
As for signing "two out-of-form players"... wake up. We have no money and no appeal for in-form players. If these guys weren't out of form, they wouldn't be coming to us. Like Gray and Townsend. And Mina and Digne before them.
At this point, we need to build with talented players that have been left behind. And hope they step up and show their quality. Like Gray and Townsend and Mina and Digne.
Hope that will change soon, but right now that's where we are. And the three talented midfielders we have acquired for zero cash outlay are exactly the sort of players we should have been looking for.
36 Posted 01/02/2022 at 06:19:56
Just for a moment, I've got a little bit of hope. I couldn't honestly say that I previously saw Lampard, Van de Beek or Alli as the answer... but I'm a bit of a romantic and there's a narrative about us having a young, talented group seeking another chance at the top level. Just as we are needing a rebirth.
I'm on board.
37 Posted 01/02/2022 at 06:49:40
Don't rule out El Garzi either. As an Ajax fan (2nd team of course) I've seen enough of him and Donny to know we have two rough diamonds. If he can find consistency then he can be as good as Mahrez, ie, cutting in from the right and scoring some screamers.
Donny was instrumental in getting a very young, brilliant Ajax team to the Champions League semi-final where they lost after a freaky comeback by a Dele Alli inspired Spurs.
Be excited. Be very excited.
38 Posted 01/02/2022 at 06:54:01
39 Posted 01/02/2022 at 07:00:11
Maybe starting "up went the Park End full to the limit". I'm sure you will be better than me on this.
Also, Zack – Good response!
40 Posted 01/02/2022 at 07:00:47
I have my fingers crossed that finally we have got the recruitment right in terms of manager and playing staff. Time will tell.
41 Posted 01/02/2022 at 07:01:20
I'm not expecting Anwar to be a regular starter but he will be an option on the bench. He's a million times better than Iwobi, that's for sure.
American cousins – is Odell Beckham the love child of David Beckham and Whoopi Goldberg?
42 Posted 01/02/2022 at 07:04:06
Although the Alli transfer sounds a bit like a Wonga loan, it's weighted in our favour, I believe, so the naysayers should give him a bit of time before writing him off.
I can't believe I'm going to say this but... Well done the Everton board for a fruitful and productive transfer window!!! COYB
43 Posted 01/02/2022 at 07:13:45
Im really excited about Bill and Frank raiding Chelseas academy in the summer. Both of them maintain excellent relations with Chelsea and its owner.
44 Posted 01/02/2022 at 07:19:40
Coming back to the new signings, anybody got the same impression as me that 3 of them are aimed at creating competition for selection, particularly in midfield?
45 Posted 01/02/2022 at 07:31:06
I think, once we have got rid of a lot of deadwood in the summer, we stand a real chance of getting Gilmour who would play that No 6 role we have been crying out for since Gana left; Frank absolutely loves the lad.
46 Posted 01/02/2022 at 07:39:35
I'm feeling confident and optimistic again.
With specific regards to Dele Alli, this is an opportunity for him to recover his potential after being Mourinho's target man and having his confidence shattered. Maybe Lampard can rebuild that and bring the player out again.
As well as his other attributes, I recall him being a constant thorn in popping up at the back post on set pieces. Good on the ball and good in the air. Good going forward.
For those who like defending deep and playing defensively, strap in for the ride. We're going forward and upward.
47 Posted 01/02/2022 at 07:43:23
Should be an interesting team selection on Saturday and again on Tuesday. Are both of the new boys Cup-tied?
A team comprising of:
Van de Beek
represents a major overhaul from the end of last season.
I expect that none of the players whose contracts will run out at the end of the season will have them renewed and that the boy from Villa will return there after his loan spell comes to an end.
48 Posted 01/02/2022 at 07:45:30
Two top quality midfielders just coming into their prime years. Both signed without us paying a fee this season – they've found a magician last.
Okay, both the players need some sort of rehabilitation, but still, credit where it's due for this window. There is a different feel about Everton by hiring Frank Lampard.
Now the hard bit.
49 Posted 01/02/2022 at 07:46:29
50 Posted 01/02/2022 at 08:03:48
Could you imagine who that pussy-magnet, Rafa, would have attracted?
51 Posted 01/02/2022 at 08:04:48
I really hope we play in such an ultra-attacking way that the opposition hardly have the ball in our half, and that's the basis of how we defend. It can be done, we just need to stick with it and not get disheartened by the odd calamitous result.
52 Posted 01/02/2022 at 08:09:08
Frankie Says "Keep The Faith".
53 Posted 01/02/2022 at 08:11:32
Will he be able tear himself away from playing Fortnite and focus on training, week-in & week-out? Part of me is excited at the thought of him playing for us, but the fans will turn on him quickly if he doesn't show the desire he had in his youth.
The deal is certainly structured cleverly to defer payment but, as I said elsewhere, if he's not playing brilliantly will the club be reluctant to give him that 20th appearance – or any of the subsequent trigger points – if it costs us another £10M? And, if so, what do we do with his contract?
As far as I know, he has no prior relationship with Lampard, apart from our new manager making positive noises about him when he first hit the scene. This is a risk, as it always is when you bring in once-great players who look like they've shot their bolt.
I'll be cheering him on that's for sure, and if this works we're in for some spectacular football. I really hope he's an asset – not a liability on the pitch.
54 Posted 01/02/2022 at 08:15:02
One thing's for sure with that lot, we'll need to be on the front foot from the off. No more KITAP1 crap from the Rafa (and post burglary Carlo) ages. Go at teams and blow them away.
Formation worries me a bit, as does the defensive side, of course. I think we need to ‘pick a system, stick to it, and learn it' so that every player coming in knows what they need to do. However, with the tools we have right now, I guess we can experiment with nearly any system to find one that works for us first.
Still, I think 4-3-3 is the way to go, but that'll need Alli to adapt. At least two in every position was the aim:
GK - Pickford / Tyrer
RB - Patterson / Kenny / Coleman
RCB - Mina / Keane
LCB - Godfrey / Branthwaite
LB - Mykolenko / Godfrey
CM - Van de Beek / Gomes
DCM - Allan / Onyango / Gbamin
CM - Alli / Doucouré
RA - Gray / Gordon / Townsend / El Ghazi
LA - Richarlison / Gray / Gordon
ST - Calvert-Lewin / Dobbin
Exciting times I think… the School of Science is on its way back! 🙏
55 Posted 01/02/2022 at 08:17:05
Can we hear an update please regarding the arrival of Tim Cahill and can you let us know the exact situation regarding Duncan Ferguson, a proper update of their roles/ responsibilities, ta.
56 Posted 01/02/2022 at 08:18:16
Let's just beat relegation and then see where we are.
57 Posted 01/02/2022 at 08:18:38
Did a lad called Cahill get a new role at the club over the weekend??
58 Posted 01/02/2022 at 08:19:09
In what I've seen so far, I see Branthwaite as more of a traditional English centre-back rather than a Rudiger.
Also, he is 19 years old. Very young by any footballing terms but for a centre-back, very, very young. We will need to be patient with him and let him grow in confidence and stature. Remember John Stones.
That's why I feel we should have been looking at an experienced leader to hold the line and drive the line forward even though many told me it wasn't a priority because Michael Keane is good defending his box. Even though he isn't really.
59 Posted 01/02/2022 at 08:24:51
Good luck, lads. NSNO.
60 Posted 01/02/2022 at 08:50:35
61 Posted 01/02/2022 at 08:55:14
Exactly my thinking, a quick left-footed centre half with bags of experience to play alongside Godfrey, I thought that was a priority because like you say, Keane is shite. Well, I just said that.
Someone in the Distin mould is needed. I suppose they're hard to find these players, that Alaba from Madrid would do a job for us. If we play the way we think Frank is going to with Mina and Keane starting, we're going to be in serious trouble – stating the bleeding obvious there.
Mina and Godfrey is probably the best available pairing right now but it can't be relied upon to develop into a proper partnership because of Mina's groin situation.
62 Posted 01/02/2022 at 09:22:30
All I can find is, £10M after 20 games, then further instalments that are performance or appearance related. I'd like to know what these are.
64 Posted 01/02/2022 at 09:28:08
For Frank, it's sort the remainder of the season out and then he has 1 to make progress and continue that progress into Year 2 or be shown the door without a huge payout.
For Dele, nothing up front, has a good 18 games this season, we pay £10M which is nothing and see how we get on, if he plays well and hits the milestones, he'll be worth £40M, if not, we pay for what we get from him.
65 Posted 01/02/2022 at 09:28:24
#4,John Cook, I equally agree with your comment. I thought my countryman, Alex Iwobi,, will be sold last night. Anyway, let's see if he will be able to command a regular shirt with the new arrivals.
66 Posted 01/02/2022 at 09:34:17
How ironic our new manager put the blockers on him staying with us!
With West Ham having shelled out the best part of £30M, that ship has sailed.
Pleased with our business this window. Get through this season and a summer of optimism awaits.
67 Posted 01/02/2022 at 09:35:44
68 Posted 01/02/2022 at 09:37:36
69 Posted 01/02/2022 at 09:38:18
All season Ive been banging on about getting Fernandinho in for a season, at least. I think we missed a trick there.
70 Posted 01/02/2022 at 09:40:49
Some of us know full well who Odell Beckham (Jr) is!
Jamie was right about the analogy too - all he needed was the right place to play football (NFL) and he seems to have re-found himself with the Rams. I see the similarities Jamie alludes to with Dele Alli – he was stuck/stale at Spurs and 7 years is long enough, he needed a change.
It's also a World Cup year and he has ambitions to play at a World Cup so he should hopefully give it his all for us.
71 Posted 01/02/2022 at 09:42:27
Yes, the squad is bloated now; yes, it would have been good to move out some players but with no DoF that would have been difficult given the scale of activity yesterday. Some of the deadwood will go in the summer as their contracts will be up, and Frank will know by then who he wants to get rid of.
I have doubts over Van de Beek – is he another Klaassen? But Man Utd saw fit to splurge £34M on him and, for a £500k loan fee, he is worth a try as we simply have to get more bodies into the club to contest the CM positions.
Alli is a no-brainier. If he doesn't turn his career around here, he will be finished as a top player. Frank will coax him along, unlike Mourinho who ruined him by not handling him properly.
A word for our much-maligned chairman – the Alli deal has Kenwright all over it. The negotiations with Levy are notoriously difficult and to get Alli effectively on a free transfer for 6 months is brilliant as is the way in which Kenwright has got around our FFP issues.
We can't lose here. At worst, we pay his wages until we can get rid and the shortish contract is obviously designed to limit our exposure in this regard. At best, we have a £40M player who we would need to tie to a longer contract or sell him within 12 to 18 months.
Credit where it's due please!
72 Posted 01/02/2022 at 09:42:57
Looks like a clever deal by Everton with the free / pay-on-appearance target. Hopefully, he gets back to his best over the long term.
A good window on the face of it. In reality, it's all about the next 18 Premier League games. In that respect, I'm hoping the spirit and impact of Kevin Campbell can be raised at all of those matches. How important was he to us during similar times? Relatively unheralded but a football hero to me. He did wonders for my blood pressure!!!
I'm glad there is an FA Cup match and a few days to focus and assess the players and options. We need to hit the ground running. Next week is a big week. Relegation odds:
Definitely a 6-pointer.
73 Posted 01/02/2022 at 09:47:52
All signings have the potential to be disasters, but when we are given a chance to smile and feel we have at least made an honest effort, there will always be those who can only look on the negative side.
Evertonians need to have progress on their minds. Even to imagine success is a relief. We have to work together in a united front. We have made excellent use of the window so stop looking for reasons to be the Doubting Thomas. COYB "Let's get positive!"
74 Posted 01/02/2022 at 09:50:55
75 Posted 01/02/2022 at 09:59:04
76 Posted 01/02/2022 at 10:02:48
The last player we had like that was Cahill, another nasty bastard when he wanted to be. I've said many times on here, they're the type of players we need.
Welcome to Everton, get your form back and the crowd will love you, bring it on. UTFT NSNO
77 Posted 01/02/2022 at 10:10:22
Now that's what I call thinking on yer feet. An interesting possibility for sure.
78 Posted 01/02/2022 at 10:13:22
His great rival for a place in the England team 5 years ago lost his way too, joined another club and has spent the last few years languishing on the bench at Chelsea.
Dele Alli could be exactly what we need. His early years in the Spurs team were exciting and effective. Fingers crossed for a return to that level of performance.
79 Posted 01/02/2022 at 10:18:23
I don't think anyone disagreed with the need for a dominant centre-back. But you can't fix everything all at once. If we'd have somehow managed to get said dominant centre-back for £2M then we wouldn't have Gray or Townsend – which would have left is in much worse straits.
We've now addressed pace and width, goals from midfield, and full backs.
We now need a proper specialist holding midfielder and a centre-back. The sale of Mina, Richarlison and Keane will fund it.
Once that is done, we will have the squad in roughly the same shape as where Silva had it at the end of his first season. That's a decent place to be for Lampard entering next season.
80 Posted 01/02/2022 at 10:18:57
Thomas was a very pragmatic man, if he wasn't sure about things he would ask about it. Once things were explained to him and he understood and agreed with it there was nobody who supported the subject as strong as Thomas.
Some Everton fans are asking questions or making statements about this transfer window, but nearly all of them will be behind the team and these players once we start playing again, starting on Saturday.
I have my reservations about both these players, both with pedigree, how they will fit in to the style of play necessary to earn the points that will keep us up, I will wait and see how we perform with them and the way Lampard shapes us up.
I think we are stronger with the arrival of these two players than we were without them, that's for sure, as Doubting Thomas would have said “Let's get on with it”.
81 Posted 01/02/2022 at 10:26:27
Dele & Donny are similar players; add to that Doucouré's best position is arriving late in the box, and we've got no-one apart from Allan to put their foot in, break up play etc.
I think we need 5 wins to stay up and conventional wisdom dictates that a team needs scrappers which neither of them are. Hopefully we do that and then take a long hard look at the squad.
82 Posted 01/02/2022 at 10:31:50
And, if we keep them, upgrade this summer on the players leaving: Sigurdsson, Delph, and Tosun.
83 Posted 01/02/2022 at 10:32:09
1) We have a young, enthusiastic manager who seems to have the charisma to attract good quality players to the club. He obviously sees Everton as a “doer-upper” club with potential and, if he can turn us into Top 4 contenders, it is going to be good for his CV also. I know he has his detractors and Lyndon describes him as “a calculated risk” but nothing is guaranteed in this life.
2) We all know we needed to strengthen the midfield and full-back positions and the club have brought in two international midfield players in there mid-twenties who are far better than anything we have at present. I know they were out of favour at there former clubs but, if used in the right formation, should be able to push us forward on the field and up the league. The fullbacks are young and inexperienced but again they have potential and, in my view, fit the profile of players we should be looking at.
3) The owner has begun communicating with the fans. Not totally satisfactory in some respects but at least it makes a change from the communications black hole that previously existed. Communications have been appalling at the club and this is one aspect that still needs a lot of work.
There is still a lot to put right at the club as we all know. We need a new centre-back and I personally would like to see an out-and-out goal scorer. Hopefully our new management team is already on top of this with a view to the summer window.
However, we still have to operate under the cloud of Paul the Esk's financial forecasts but, if we can put some results together, figures will return to the black, and our governance and strategy will begin to emerge in a more coherent way
I am certainly more optimistic than I was 6 months ago. I might not be able to see any light at the end of the tunnel yet… but at least I can see the tunnel!
84 Posted 01/02/2022 at 10:33:26
I think in Donny and Dele he has brought in 2 naturally attack minded players, and I think he will play Dele just off the main striker.
Let's not forget under Pochettino, Alli was an England first team regular but seems to have lost his way under Mourhino, Santos and obviously hasnt impressed Conte. But I think with Frank being a big admirer that will give Alli the confidence he has been lacking, and maybe as Mourhino has suggested a move away from Spurs may help Dele rekindle his form.
Also with Frank being nearer Dele in age, I think that will help him. And let's be honest for us to get him for £10 million for someone of his ability is a steal, and should Frank not be able to rekindle the spark then he will be moved on. But Alli will realize, like Demarai Gray, that they get to this stage of their career where it's essential that they perform; otherwise, it will be a slippery slide downwards.
85 Posted 01/02/2022 at 10:46:42
Yes, we had many issues and areas to address, that wouldn't have been achieved all at once. I actually thought Ancelotti started it but for reasons we can debate without conclusion all day, didn't see it through.
A leading centre back and what I would call a traditional sweeper (or libero as they call it in Italian) in the summer will be the priorities. Go and find the next Beckenbauer to sit in front of the defence and behind Allan & Doucouré or whatever 2 we play with. Or switch to cover and protect them. Libero.
86 Posted 01/02/2022 at 10:53:25
Dave (80), an excellent, but not unexpected response, to my use of the "Doubting Thomas" analogy. Thomas did have every right to "doubt" just as every Evertonian has the right to doubt. That is particularly so due to the "lousy" recruitment record we have had over so many years.
At the time, Thomas was criticized for his lack of faith. However, I just have a belief that we may have done something right for a change. I also have my doubts but this time I have decided to "Just stay Positive". I will believe!!!
It may be illogical and I may be proved wrong but, at my age, I am often wrong and illogical. Let's be honest you have to be somewhat "illogical" to continue to support a team that can always be relied upon to drive supporters up the wall.
87 Posted 01/02/2022 at 10:55:20
I remember some dreary times when Kendall first came as Manager it took time to bring in players who could play the system he wanted to play. But don't forget this last couple of days has given us a boost what has it done to the teams near us in the league these teams will be in shock that Everton can tempt a bright young manager and two decent players one of which was an England regular and one of the best players in the Country until Mourinho got hold of him.
Do you think Newcastle will be relishing the forthcoming game without some trepidation at the difference they could make?
88 Posted 01/02/2022 at 10:57:55
It's going to be very interesting to see where Lampard plays Richarlison. Both Richie and Gray seem to play their best football cutting in from the left and, in my view, Gray has been the more effective player this season – though obviously Richie has been sidelined with injury some of the time.
Does this mean the end of Gordon's run in the team, to keep Richie and Demarai in the line-up? I guess we won't know until the Newcastle game, as our new signings are both cup-tied for Saturday.
89 Posted 01/02/2022 at 10:59:03
We also end up getting Donny and Dele Alli plus a young keeper. Brilliant end to the window for us and some great business. Straightaway we have something to smile about being an Evertonian, we suddenly have a bit of competition for places in the team and some hungry attacking players.
Frank likes to play 4-3-3 or a 4-2-3-1 so this is what the set up could look like over the coming months.
Coleman or Patterson, Mina, Godfrey, Mykolenko
Van de Beek, Allan or Doucouré, Alli
Richarlison or Gordon or El Ghazi, Calvert-Lewin, Gray
PickfordColeman or Patterson, Mina, Godfrey, Mykolenko
Richarlison, Alli or Van de Beek, Gray
All of a sudden, we have options and hopefully we start penetrating games with the attacking players on show and being able to have a better possession-based game in the middle of the park which will hopefully take some pressure off the back four. We are used to having ~30% of the ball in games and I'm hoping this changes with the new crop of talent.
90 Posted 01/02/2022 at 11:04:48
Now nobody could say Gray has been anything other than a roaring success since he arrived. IMO he's been our standout player.
Like Gray (again just my opinion) I think Alli may have somewhat of a fragile mentality where he needs to be dealt with in a certain way. Again like Gray he's 25 and possibly ready to mature, knuckle down, and get back to being the player he used to be.
Lampard needs to put a smile back on his face, which I have every confidence he will do. If he makes a similar impact to Gray then I'll be more than happy.
I'm going to give him the chance that some have already decided he's not worth just like some who turned their noses up at a mere £1.7M signing who couldn't get in this team or that team.
I've had sleepless nights over Everton recently (some would say pathetic that) but I'm going to seek out the positives until there is no alternative. I just hope, either by chance or good fortune, we've stumbled upon a formula that will give us all the chance to be positive and happy again.
91 Posted 01/02/2022 at 11:05:51
Of course there is risk; if they were perfect they would be staying where they were. We don't pay a penny for Dele until 20 league games... there are only 18 such games left this season!
As someone has pointed out above, the Donny-inspired Ajax, were beaten in the Champions League by the Dele Alli-inspired Spurs!
All of this means that El Ghazi will come in completely under the radar, with no pressure on him. I think he will score important goals and will look a good deal.
Alli dives; yes, but now he's flopping for us, not for the oppo!
A long injury-free run from Yerry Mina may help the centre-backproblems and don't forget, we've now got 'Dead-eye Dick' Rondon in scoring form!
Remember, we've also acquired a young England-youth goalkeeper.
As for O'Dell Beckham... he's clearly David's Irish love-child!!
92 Posted 01/02/2022 at 11:21:47
Firstly we brought in a young manager who plays on the front foot, no sitting back and let the opposition dictate, a big believer in 4-3-3 thankfully, and a fresh backroom staff, Clement is a top coach.
In this window he brought in two players who will improve our midfield which was slow and pedestrian. He will turn things around, and come the summer, get rid of a lot of the deadwood, players on massive wages sitting on their arses, and change the shape of the club.
93 Posted 01/02/2022 at 11:44:17
I have long held the view that we have much better players than form in recent years suggests; with good coaching, we would certainly be as capable as West Ham, Leicester, Arsenal and Tottenham.
With Ashley Cole, Tim Cahill etc hopefully joining soon, we will have a hungry and modern management team who have all tasted success to varying degrees during their own playing careers. Exciting times ahead for sure!
94 Posted 01/02/2022 at 11:45:57
The next game could be crucial and Barcodes have also been bring in players so it will be a tough place to get three points without a completely new attitude and show of confidence.
Whilst the players brought in have not exactly been setting any of the big leagues alight this season, I am sure they are all chomping at the bit do work hard under the new gaffer and help Everton get out of the doldrums.
95 Posted 01/02/2022 at 12:00:01
We've sold one player for £25mill (round about) and got 5 young players and the oldest being a 26/27 year old Dutch, quality player, who got 11 goals last season and another Dutch player from an Ajax team of good quality.
Dele Alli, well, I think he's a great player who's lost his way for whatever reason; and two young international full-backs who need a bit of time to get used to the Premier League.
So with Demarai and Towny proving to have been around the most effective in out team, during the injuries to richie and DCL and still worthy enough to fight for their places with those two back. With Dobbin and Simms (next season) especially Gordon proving to be quality additions, I'm really excited about the attacking opportunties our team will have.
Yes, I can understand people saying we need to find one, if not two quality central defenders, Keane, to me isn't the answer and Mina (well if he can stay injury free or not). Well, we could buy or loan all that we needed during this window. But what a difference now to a few weeks ago!
It's a moot point, and a shame, whether we'll ever see Gbamin produce what we hoped he would. But it now means we don't have to rely on Iwobi, Gomes (though he might fit in to a midfield to spray the ball around but not do any chasing back!) Delph, a certain midfielder from a very cold country, Tosun and they, or most of them, will be off the wage bill in the summer. As for Rondon, well I like his attitude, and if he's now fit, then he might do a job for us if needed.
I'm hoping that the emphasis will be on attacking the opposition, not allowing ourselves to be pressed back to our weakest area. We've got loads of attacking in us now from all angles and, with Doucouré back in a few weeks, we'll have a much better squad to get away from the position we're in. Well, we've got the manager who'll do it for us..
96 Posted 01/02/2022 at 12:00:29
Let's hope we can get some luck on the injury front because we haven't up to now, we have also missed the services of the Icelander.
Next Tuesday's game is massive, if we can get 3 points brilliant but 1 point would not be a disaster.
What sort of team does Lampard pick for Saturday? He's got some big decisions to make in the very short time he's been here; he could have done with more time to get organized.
97 Posted 01/02/2022 at 12:00:49
Maybe Gbamin can be that player in front of the back four? (Tongue firmly in cheek!)
Agreed with everything you've said but the fact is we don't have those two players for the rest of this season. Branthwaite could be that man, possibly, for one position.
But like many have said on here before, Allan can't really play the sole pivot role, so who is going to do it, Onyango?
It'll be very interesting to see how Lampard sets up. I honestly think Gomes can only be brought on for 25-30 minutes, he's nowhere near as effective when starting.
98 Posted 01/02/2022 at 12:23:22
I think they were happier today but then the boy just goes off looking for foxes and leaves me to myself. He comes back once I've stopped rambling.
99 Posted 01/02/2022 at 12:24:09
Both transfers appear to be fairly risk-free. Big salaries but no big upfront fees.
Both good players, but I have no idea where they are mentally. Are they prepared for the challenge?
The manager is the big risk. I hope he has luck and time on his side because February could make or break him.
I like the backroom additions, Clement in particular will bring experience and professionalism.
But, our defenders can not play out from the back without making mistakes. Without Mina, we look a shambles. Without Godfrey we have no pace.
I hope Frank doesn't demand or expect too much from our defence. I know who, what and where I would target if I was playing against us. It's not rocket science where our weaknesses are.
100 Posted 01/02/2022 at 12:30:57
Doucouré is seen by the majority of ToffeeWebbers as our only real decent midfielder because of his importance to the team. When he doesn't play, we lose our only real athlete in the side; the others struggle without him in terms of compatibility and getting overrun. There is also the added problem of Doucouré being the only midfielder individually capable to play the 90minutes – even when the others are on form.
I suspect that Doucouré's reliance and importance will now be much less of a factor. Van de Beek is a unique player in the squad because he has that pass-and-move quality, someone to knit the midfield and attack. He alone I believe will make Gomes or Davies much better in that quarterback position where I think Frank will play them. Alli's dynamism and powerful running into the box will be key for our midfielders and full-backs to hit.
If Derby and Chelsea are a template he could play a diamond; one (of Delph, Gomes or Davies) sitting, Van de Beek and another alongside (Gbamin, Allan, Doucouré), with Ali as a ten.
Or he may use the 4-3-3 with Dele and Donny either side of a holding midfielder and play wingers.
Because we would have so much energy and movement, in midfield and wide, the function of that defensive midfielder will be to provide quality on the ball and play penetrative passes.
His athleticism will be less of a factor. It is for this reason that Lampard sparingly used the best defensive midfielder in the world Kante in this role and used his energy further forward.
I think what we thought we knew under the turgid Ancelotti and Benitez will be turned on its head. I'm confident these signings, both individually and their effect on the overall quality of the squad, will ensure we climb the table pretty quickly and finish close to mid-table.
101 Posted 01/02/2022 at 12:51:51
Ajay's team @34 looks pretty good.
Andrea mentioned Branthwaite being slow... well, not according to the players, who reckon he is amongst the quickest in the squad.
102 Posted 01/02/2022 at 13:18:48
But that is manageable, as is the issue with centre-back, for the short term if we play with a bit more bravery and attacking threat.
The fact we have goal threat from quite a few players will peg opposition teams back, allowing the defensive line to creep forward – even if we stick with Keane and Mina. I can see Godfrey and Holgate playing their part too – but probably not Branthwaite just yet even though I think he could be the best of the lot.
None of Terry, Carvalho or Ivanovic had great pace but they managed pretty well as I recall.
103 Posted 01/02/2022 at 13:28:28
First let's get the history straight. Alli's form fell during Ponchettino's tenure. His slide did not begin with Mourinho and I have not liked Mourinho for a long time. Ponchettino is quoted in the news papers talking about Dele's motivation four years ago. This has not changed since then.
Numerous people, including successive managers, have commented on the record about Dele's lack of motivation and application on the training ground and in the locker room.
I understand we could end up getting him cheap except for his salary. But things must work out. Alli has not worked out for his last four managers – three of them world-class – all with different approaches.
People here wonder how we were able to get Alli on such terms from Daniel Levy. It's because no one else wanted him. Levy always gets as much as he can for a player and, in this case, like all others, he did.
I hope Dele works out and I will back him and give him time as I do with all our new players. However, as a club, we need to stop taking other people's cast-offs and reclamation projects. We need to stop taking chances on players who have underperformed for a few years and hope "Frank can sort him out" – regardless of cost.
Top clubs do not go anywhere near any such players. And those top clubs did not go anywhere near those type of players when they were building their clubs.
104 Posted 01/02/2022 at 13:31:12
I think we will be seriously in for Gilmour in the summer. That would be an interesting midfield, he is the No 6 we need and I think would settle well with young Patterson in the same.
I am excited for the Brentford game.
105 Posted 01/02/2022 at 13:31:47
I'll add another to your list before washing my mouth out with dirty dishwater.
Carragher. Slow but could read the game and anticipate the situation.
106 Posted 01/02/2022 at 13:32:33
Not so sure about the earlier recruits, the two full backs and El Ghazi. That looked more scattergun.
Maybe I'm asking for too much but if Gbamin could get his confidence back about his body, and be the midfielder we bought, we will at last be well stocked in that area.
107 Posted 01/02/2022 at 13:42:04
Lifted my good mood even more. hope you don't mind if I try to finish it off:
My old Man, said sign Donny Van
And get Dele Alli on the way
Up went the Park End, full to the limit
The Street joined in, now we're sure to win it
Watch Donny and Alli, Increase our goal tally
Frank was right, he knew they both could play
It's good riddance to Rafa, now Frank's our new Gaffer
We are surely on our way!
108 Posted 01/02/2022 at 13:57:33
You need a young manager; Ancellotti, not a total disaster, but couldn't get a tune out of this team. Benitez should never have been appointed.
With Lampard, we have someone young and dynamic with football in his DNA. He has brought in two excellent players who, along with Gray and Townsend (the only positives from Benitez), should get us out of trouble and lay a firm foundation for the future.
109 Posted 01/02/2022 at 14:07:48
Then, in 2018-19, he missed 23 games with assorted injuries. In and out of a team that had peaked with Pochettino and then fell away.
He's never been the same since. Hopefully this move will help get his mojo working.
110 Posted 01/02/2022 at 14:07:53
Good footballer though, if he can find his old form!
111 Posted 01/02/2022 at 14:13:00
If any of our box-to-boxers lost posession and they can break with only Gomes and the centre-backs to cover, I'd be worried. Maybe it could work if we transition successfully to a team who has lots of posession but we seem a long way off that currently.
I would imagine he'll use Allan there and then hopefully buy someone this summer. Gilmour has a fair bit more developing to do but definitely looks a talent.
A player I've always liked and would love to see in the Premier League is Wilmar Barrios, compatriot of Mina and an excellent midfielder.
112 Posted 01/02/2022 at 14:13:21
A trio of Van de Beek, Alli and Gilmour would be good – but possibly a bit lightweight. We'll have to see how Van de Beek gets on – and indeed whether he stays beyond the end of the season.
My starting point is that I want a midfield with the physicality to match that of Liverpool.
113 Posted 01/02/2022 at 14:16:09
Please arrange to bump into Seamus in Calderstones park for early reactions to Frank's appointment and signings.
And can you ask him what Duncan Ferguson's new role is?
114 Posted 01/02/2022 at 14:16:22
115 Posted 01/02/2022 at 14:16:23
Our very own Liverpool cast-off, Kevin Sheedy, was hardly a failure.
Kevin de Bruyne and Mo Salah? Discarded by Chelsea? Cast offs. Jordan Henderson? Written off by many.
Let's see what Alli and the others do for Everton. Remember the underwhelming sentiment when we purchased the Leicester cast-off, Demarai Gray, at a knock down cost?
One of of most exciting, committed and best players this season.
How you spend not what you spend. And players can excell in different environments with different managers who give them an opportunity.
Let's give them that opportunity. The recent cast-off, Andros Townsend, has scored 2 of the best goals I've seen in a long while this season that won us matches.
Judge then as Everton players.
116 Posted 01/02/2022 at 14:17:17
Didn't Carvalho et al have Makelele playing in front of them? Isn't it just as likely that this kind of set-up will see us leaving massive gaps in the middle of the park to be sliced through on the counter-attack at will?
I suppose our attack needs to be firing and the possession of the ball needs to be top notch. Can we really turn around our playing style without some teething problems at such a vital and pressurised point of the season?
And if this approach appears shambolic in the first 5-10 games, will he panic and revert to a more defensive approach? Maybe he'll then throw some players under the bus (like he did at Chelsea) inferring that they're not good enough to play his way – destroying the confidence of this fragile squad even further and thereby relegating us?
This is just how I think it will play out, doesn't mean it will happen, he may end up being a brilliant manager for us and I'd be happy to be dead wrong.
I fear Lampard might end up being the modern version of Mark Hughes, which could work out okay for us because Hughes's early managerial career wasn't too bad.
117 Posted 01/02/2022 at 14:17:17
They used to call him fat,
until that semi final,
When he gave the ball a whack.
I followed in his footsteps,
and broke the Toffee hearts,
But I am here to do my penance,
and show up that Jurgen tart.
118 Posted 01/02/2022 at 14:17:47
119 Posted 01/02/2022 at 14:24:09
Does anybody know (for sure) if we have an option on Donny (Puppy Love) van de Beek at the end of his loan period?
120 Posted 01/02/2022 at 14:25:10
To the rest doubting our defence. Jarrod Branthwaite is very quick! Ben Godfrey ditto. Patterson is both rapid and a very good footballer. Mykolenko will settle down and be an upgrade on Digne.
The only drawback with these lads currently is their combined lack of experience. The only way to get experience is to do the job! I would be tempted to play them and depend on their pace to get them out of the odd spot of bother. This pace will allow us to play farther up the pitch, leaving less dependence on Allan looking like he is running in treacle.
With Allan in the team, we can perm the rest of the midfield and attackers from Gordon, Doucouré, Gray, Richarlison, Alli, Townshend, Van de Beek, Calvert-Lewin, Gbamin, Gomes, Dobbin, El Ghazi, Onyango. For the purists, there's even Iwobi, Tosun and Rondon.
To me, we can have a superb attacking team, including a very strong bench. I haven't even considered Delph and Davies.
Not everyone will be able/available to play every game so let's stop the "Oh god where are we going to play them?" complaints already.
If El Ghazi, Alli and Donny have only stopped the latter three getting near the squad, thats a result for me. For the rest, there now looks genuine competition for spots, and we should stop picking up as many injuries with our best players who are being over-utilised, or brought back too early from niggles.
The future is bright.
121 Posted 01/02/2022 at 14:27:56
This doubting Thomas talk made me think of John McFarlane. He seems to be a very faithful fan and not one to get into histrionics when things are going wrong.
Perhaps many of us are the doubting Thomas, but seeing as he mostly listens to the game on the radio and therefore doesn't watch it, he must be what Jesus was talking about when he said "Blessed is he who believes yet does not see."
122 Posted 01/02/2022 at 14:34:04
Call me old-fashioned but what I want is defenders that can defend and midfielders that are comfortable on the ball, can pass and can tackle. I think our signings in this window help us get closer to that.
It will be fascinating to see if Frank picks Allan or Gomes (presuming he won't play both).
Fascinating times ahead. It would be great to pick up a few points over the next few games and actually enjoy watching us for a change.
123 Posted 01/02/2022 at 14:53:37
124 Posted 01/02/2022 at 14:55:06
Alli is a player who for some unknown reasons his career has slowed down and this move could be up to him to get it back on track. He also has something we are lacking in midfield as well as a skillful player with an eye for goal, he has a nasty streak in him.
Van de Beek is a more of a provider with good movement off the ball after passing it, that gets him into goal scoring positions. So now we have 2 players to provide or score goals from the midfield were we are lacking in goals.
M Gaynes I may live in Canada but I watch the NFL and being just a 10-hour drive from Boston, I have seen the GOAT quarterback on a number of occasions.
125 Posted 01/02/2022 at 14:57:19
126 Posted 01/02/2022 at 15:03:15
Between the players we have already (apart from a number of duffers already mentioned) and the players brought in, including El Ghazi and the two young full backs, Doucouré on the mend, and a manager who loved scoring goals, we not to badly off.
Yep, some will say we need more, but I think we all know that. We've got what we've got; and this window has been a good one... much better than I thought we'd get.
We've got three of four players who can support the forwards much more effectively, and get into attacking positions rapidly. As someone has already pointed out, between Branthwaite, Godfrey and Mina, we've got decent central defenders and two young international full backs.
Not bad from where we were, plus a fast attacking midfield and forward line.
Frank has a lot of attacking options and attacking players willing to come back and tackle as well.
I was really worried that were going to be relegated; I couldn't see a team below us who had as many problems. Now? Well, I think we have the chance to put teams under much more pressure than before the break.
Much more talent to bag more goals, so we have a better chance of staying up than 3 or 4 weeks ago.
FA Cup? I couldn't give a toss about it this season, we've got to concentrate on winning games to stay up.
127 Posted 01/02/2022 at 15:06:19
128 Posted 01/02/2022 at 15:19:19
Hate to mention an RS but David James was hailed as a sensation when he joined Liverpool then quickly became calamity James, and was something of a clown for many years.
Like Dele, people questioned his obsession with video games. But he had quite the renaissance winning the cup with Pompey and becoming the England Number 1 in his mid thirties.
Another comeback kid would be Des Walker, Tony Abrahams old teammate. Regarded as one of the best in Europe at Forest, then things went off a cliff after that Netherlands game when "that blond man" (Koeman) shouldn't have been on the pitch." But, he eventually bounced back and became one of the best defenders in the league at Sheff Wed.
Outside of English players, you can look at Dennis Bergkamp: superstar at Ajax, failure at Inter, legend at Arsenal. Thierry Henry: similar story of failure in Italy. Or Diego Forlan, failure in England then became a superstar.
129 Posted 01/02/2022 at 15:22:10
I can't remember too many opponents getting past Jimmy Gabriel (another bit of holiness!) or Tony Kay and they could both score goals and feed the forwards as well.
130 Posted 01/02/2022 at 15:25:00
Players get too typecast into playing a specific position. Okay, almost all have a strong side and one less so... but an athletic midfielder should have the ability to play in more than one position.
131 Posted 01/02/2022 at 15:26:26
Or Anthony Gordon!
132 Posted 01/02/2022 at 15:27:45
I think you may be right.
133 Posted 01/02/2022 at 15:35:37
134 Posted 01/02/2022 at 15:35:58
135 Posted 01/02/2022 at 15:35:59
That's why personally I think we need a specialist holding midfielder next season, to allow Alli (also a specialist) to play to his strengths.
But I dare say, with Allan and Doucoure (or AN Other), we can manage for the time being.
136 Posted 01/02/2022 at 15:37:28
137 Posted 01/02/2022 at 15:40:18
138 Posted 01/02/2022 at 15:41:05
Lampard is young, enthusiastic, full of energy and by all accounts can be a tough disciplinarian.
Our recent acquisitions all have desire and enthusiasm to win and show their "real" talent especially with World Cup squads coming up.
We know the squad is better than 16th place and has been hampered by injuries and poor team selection and tactics in the last few months.
With the addition of the new players we now have the potential to be a top half club and the firepower to be a top 6 club.
IMO Dele Alli was destroyed by Mourhino who constantly victimized him so its no wonder he lost his confidence and appetite for the game. The player himself said he tried to model himself on Lampard so I have no doubt he will be reinvigorated. Van de Beek may take time to adjust but is better than anyone else we have in midfield (Doucouré being injured)
It says so much that we are struggling to say who should be in the first 11 and that is a position any team with ambition should be in.
We have made some great additions to the backroom staff.
All we need now is for the supporters to be the 12th man and be patient with the team until we really get going.
139 Posted 01/02/2022 at 15:47:40
Bill #124, I think the reason for Alli's career crashing is known -- attitude problems. Being unceremoniously dumped by the club for which he was once a budding legend may well shock him back on track. And I read somewhere that he has long admired Lampard.
DK #119, no, there is no option to buy in the current loan deal. If Donny van de Beek comes good, Rangnick can take him back.
Luke #127, he did score a couple of excellent goals at Schalke. One from 25 yards, a bullet into the side netting.
140 Posted 01/02/2022 at 15:55:50
Thanks for the info on Donny van de Beek, let's hope if he is a success, he's like a kid who can't get his sweets (candy), kicks up a rumpus and refuses to go back! :-)
141 Posted 01/02/2022 at 15:59:06
I know nobody wants to hear it but he will need time to instil his style of play and it won't happen overnight, and yes, it will be bumpy along the way. But we have a young manager with fresh ideas, and a new coaching team to help him progress.
The appointment of Paul Clement is very important, he has the experience to help Frank when things don't quite go to plan, and that will happen at times.
I am sure just looking at the clips the manager, his coaches and the players seem to be enjoying what they are doing; I doubt that happened very often under the previous manager, you can make players work hard without it feeling like a chore.
The majority of these players have had many different managers asking them to play in a certain way, and now again they have another manager who will again change things that some of the previous managers had them doing.
I see some posts urging the fans to get behind the team, to be honest whoever has been manager the fans have got behind the players and will continue to do so.
But I thought it was quite telling in his interview that Lampard said we want the fans to get behind the players, but its a 2 way thing and the players have to demonstrate to the fans their passion to get results.
142 Posted 01/02/2022 at 16:00:39
I don't agree with the assessment of some that consider Lampard's time at both Derby or Chelsea as underwhelming.
Under normal circumstances he would never have got the Chelsea gig but for their transfer ban. It actually worked in Chelsea's favour as Lampard both knew and was willing to blood academy players who, in normal circumstances, would never have got the chance to have an extended run of games. That so many proved their worth has both saved and made Chelsea a lot of money.
In his second season before getting sacked, his team was on a 17-game unbeaten run before they lost 3-1 to Everton in 'THAT' Duncan Ferguson game. He had a bad month, but he had already comfortably qualified Chelsea for the KO stage of the Champions League. No small feat.
Together with Tuchel becoming available mid-season at that time, an owner like Abramavich is only going to make one decision.
Frank has taken a studious year out from the game. He had opportunities to get back into management. He has chosen Everton to do so.
Now much has been made of Everton's manager recruitment in the last two weeks, but for sure it would have been a two-way interview in which Frank asked questions of his interrogators. So they said some right things to convince him that we are a serious and worthy proposition.
HE needs to succeed at Everton if he wishes to fulfill his ambitions of being a respected manager. Such motivation works in our favour.
It's similar for both Donny van de Beek and Dele Alli. They are two extremely talented footballers who have had a couple of barren years. If they are still serious about their careers, they too will be highly motivated to do well at Everton.
As for the discussion on tactics, Van de Beek and Alli are far superior and have proven greater consistency than any midfielders currently on our books. IF they can recapture their earlier levels of performance, they will complement well the likes of Gray, Richarlison and Calvert-Lewin. It could be very potent.
Of more concern is the defensive make-up of the team. The suggested notion of playing Gomes in the Jorginho - Kante role, as Sam and Robert question, is (as they said) a terrifying one.
We are not in the position, nor do we have the defensive solidity, to go all gung-ho and neglect defence altogether. Playing Gomes there would be suicidal. Yes, a technically gifted player in that position could be beneficial. But it would be naive in the extreme to believe no defensive abilities at all are required in that role.
I am hard pressed to think of another professional footballer other than Gomes, given his size and ability, so incompetent in the basic skills of tackling or challenging for the ball that he coughs up a cheap free kick almost every time. He would be a total liability in that anchor role.
For those expecting a higher defensive line, you may be disappointed. Frank's preferred centre-back pairing were Thiago Silva and Zouma. He blocked Zouma's return to us, remember? Rudiger and Christensen barely got a look in under Lampard.
Silva and Zouma were more stay-at-home central defenders. What you did see were the full-backs bombing forward in support of midfield and the attack. We have the players to do that.
Less than 3 weeks ago, we lost to Norwich and sacked the manager. Less than 2 weeks ago, we lost at home to Villa.
Given the lateness of Lampard's recruitment so close to the shutting of the transfer window, the situation is not as stark as it was.
For me, he has one simple remit this season. Avoid relegation. Five wins from the final 18 fixtures should suffice. Anything over and above that would be a bonus.
A summer of ins and outs, a full pre-season with his squad, then we can rightly start asking for more.
143 Posted 01/02/2022 at 16:04:49
144 Posted 01/02/2022 at 16:08:23
Dele Alli might do just the same, playing regularly for someone who believes in him, well, we might just have a couple of top class midfielders joining us.
Jay, your last sentence is so important! Judging by the posts of some during this window, I just hope they either change their views or don't go the match.
145 Posted 01/02/2022 at 16:17:56
146 Posted 01/02/2022 at 16:20:18
Maybe having a couple more Londoners at the club, might just 'spur' Alex Iwobi, on?
Or they could give him a good kick up the 'arse'!!
147 Posted 01/02/2022 at 16:30:24
148 Posted 01/02/2022 at 16:49:38
We are 16th on 40 points. Newcastle, Watford and Norwich are the bottom three in that order.
They obviously don't rate the Skunks signings either!!
149 Posted 01/02/2022 at 16:51:15
After 'reading' your post, you may just have something there, though it's not easy to make a 'forest green' even if you're from a 'palace', but it may make Iwobi more 'Charlton Athletic'. :-)
150 Posted 01/02/2022 at 16:51:19
André Gomes is approaching a hundred games for Everton. Over the course of that time I don't think he's developed his game at all.
He still gets caught in possession by aggressive opponents who hunt in packs, he still takes too long on the ball, he is still too slow to get into his defensive position, he still gives away stupid free kicks in dangerous areas by making ill-conceived attempts to win the ball, and he still thinks football is played alongside a light afternoon jog.
I have tried to remember a moment when I have seen André Gomes sprint, and the only time I can remember is when he belatedly tried to sprint back to cover a breakaway - where we conceded a goal and he was too slow to read the danger and provide any help at all.
Defensively he is about as poor a player as there is in the Premier League, and André Gomes doesn't seem to fancy doing anything to change that. I'm fed up of watching opponents drive past him as if he is a slalom post marking their route to goal.
151 Posted 01/02/2022 at 16:52:10
Dele Alli is by far the player I dislike the most from Spurs. I have never liked Frank Lampard as a player. I always felt that although Donny van de Beek was good in a brilliant Ajax team, he would struggle in the Premier League.
My stance on Dele Alli and Lampard of course is completely irrational. I just didn't like them. Donny van de Beek may be a bit more rational thinking which might be right and might be wrong.
But, as of today, I love Lampard and Dele Alli and I am sure Donny van de Beek will be a Premier League star.
Ya sure need to show flexibility as a fan.
152 Posted 01/02/2022 at 16:55:44
If he can get Alli to track back (anything better than Iwobi leaves less space) advancing the ball with him making credible runs will provide the space needed for others who are not good in tight spaces.
One thing for sure is he will not hide from the ball. Find him and let him work some chemistry with the forwards and you basically have a goal threat waiting around the top of the D for a look.
Agreed that we missed out on a No 6 but I'm not sure who we could afford. A cheaper version of Upecamano would obviously make us all happy but choosing a No 6 to come into the Premier League and immediately be effective is a trick.
Paying up for it is an accounting trick.
153 Posted 01/02/2022 at 17:06:33
I think Tom Brady would do a better job in midfield than Gomes. What a disappointment André has been.
154 Posted 01/02/2022 at 17:08:04
André would be a brilliant netball player. No contact. You get to stand still and take all the time in the world picking out the perfect pass.
155 Posted 01/02/2022 at 17:11:48
I can empathize. Living in the USA I was sick and tired of hearing how Landon Donovan was the second coming of Jesus whereas he was more like a poor man's JWP. When he joined, I was flabbergasted. Luckily he did okay.
156 Posted 01/02/2022 at 17:12:20
Tony and Rob, you've got me mystified... do Londoners have a reputation as being meaner fans than Merseysiders?
Andrew #150, I won't dispute a word you've said... except that Gomes has improved in one area you mentioned, and that's taking stupid fouls in dangerous locations. He was an absolute nightmare around the edge of our box in his first two seasons with us, and he cost us some crucial goals, but I cannot recall him doing that this season or last. He commits most of his hapless fouls farther up the pitch now, less harmfully.
But yes, he remains a beautifully bearded traffic cone.
Colin #153, I wish I could call him a disappointment, but he's been pretty much what I expected. As a Barca fan I was quite vocal here about his limitations when he came in, and unfortunately he has lived up to my assessment. I just remain awestruck (and not in a good way) by the sheer number of TWers who still consider him a creative midfielder. It's like an alternate universe.
157 Posted 01/02/2022 at 17:14:01
I am quite pissy about how they've poached Wood to lessen Burnley's chance of escape and then tried to mess with our negotiations with Alli. They have taken negative football to the offices upstairs. Despicable.
158 Posted 01/02/2022 at 17:14:05
I assume that is dependent on him scoring a hat-trick in the Champions League Fnal or some other ambitious target. What I don't quite understand is, what happens if it doesn't work out at all and we want to sell him after maybe 25 appearances?
Or when he scores the hat-trick in the Champions League Final 2024 and triggers the last maybe £15 million to Spurs and his contract runs out. Are we then paying the last add on the day before he is a free agent?
Maybe I am not so comfortable with the logic of the deal knowing it is Levy on the other side.
159 Posted 01/02/2022 at 17:25:17
160 Posted 01/02/2022 at 17:31:04
Interesting tactical analysis on SB Nation of Lampard's challenge in integrating Alli and Van de Beek together into the existing midfield:
And it turns out one reason Donny chose Everton was a glowing endorsement of the club from a fellow Dutchman, Johnny Heitinga.
161 Posted 01/02/2022 at 17:38:25
11/1 to finish in the top half
27/1 to win the FA Cup
And of course the double.
162 Posted 01/02/2022 at 17:40:47
If – and I mean 'if' – Dele scores a hat-trick in the 2024 Final then why worry about the money due to Spurs?? We will too busy celebrating to care.
164 Posted 01/02/2022 at 17:52:08
I would have loved him at Everton as a player, now we have him as our Manager and I think he will do well.
His interview was impressive and enjoyed how he talked about the style of play that he wants to play. Win, lose or draw Frank will play on the front foot and be having a go at teams.
I think the players need to get back to enjoying their football and believe Frank and his staff will give them that. This is a good appointment, well done Moshiri.
165 Posted 01/02/2022 at 17:53:45
You may want to watch back the Villa game the other week. That corner they scored from came from Pickford tipping over a Coutinho free kick over the bar.
Gomes gave away that free kick so sadly his ability to give away stupid fouls in dangerous positions has not gone
166 Posted 01/02/2022 at 18:19:47
Congratulations to the management. Pretty much all the right changes that was possible in a short period of time. No Brands involved, so who did all these clever deals I've been wondering? Gotta give credit where credit is due.
Dele Alli can do all the things Cahill used to do in the box – so that's really exciting.
I'd love to see Frank verses Townsend on a 30-yard screamers competition. Instead of 5 penalties, 5 long rangers would be fun to watch.
Imagine if Carlo had these players last February, could we have made the top 7 or even 4th?
Finally, Iwobi... he likes to come inside and Patterson on the outside. It can't reignite Iwobi can it?
All fun and games. Looking forward to the second half of the season. And Rafa was right... there's a chance it will be better in 2022.
167 Posted 01/02/2022 at 18:28:18
The guy is a total liability. Can't tackle, score, assist, run, pass other than short backwards or sideways. Nail on the head!
168 Posted 01/02/2022 at 18:30:58
169 Posted 01/02/2022 at 18:33:44
Thiago Silva came in his second season at Chelsea didn't he? Wasn't that one of the problems, playing him in a back four? They were getting exposed constantly, even with Kante in the side.
Chelsea conceded 57 goals, I believe, at home in his season and a half in charge. Not great is it? In fact, it's pretty bad.
We're going to have to outscore the opposition. Something I'm not against if it works. Lampard coming in, in the Summer, would have made more sense.
170 Posted 01/02/2022 at 18:53:47
The feeling used to be that London boys in general never done that well if they went up north, but hopefully that's going to change because we seem to have quite a few southerners in our club nowadays.
That's exactly what I was insinuating, Rob, because now he's got a few more people from his area at the club, he's got to try a lot harder; otherwise, I'm sure the cockneys might turn on him.
171 Posted 01/02/2022 at 19:01:40
172 Posted 01/02/2022 at 19:01:49
supercomputer predictions from 23/1/22
here is the bottom 6...
15 - Brentford = 40 pts
16 - Everton = 40 pts
17 - Burnley = 35 pts
18- Newcastle = 31 pts
19 - Watford = 31 pts
20 - Norwich = 29 pts
173 Posted 01/02/2022 at 19:07:03
174 Posted 01/02/2022 at 19:07:25
175 Posted 01/02/2022 at 19:20:10
Whoever negotiated the Alli deal has played a blinder, only 18 games left, so any payment will only show on next years finances. If it was Bill then he deserves credit for the negotiation, done a lot of damage in the past, but if he can start acting like a chairman and carry on going forward, instead of Moshiri interfering on the transfers and leave it to Bill and Frank, things might start to pick up.
Overall a great January window, Tosun, Delph and Sigurdsson contracts up in the summer, so that will go a bit of the way for future Alli payments.
Hard not to feel positive at the moment. We've done all we can to have a strong second half to the season.
176 Posted 01/02/2022 at 19:22:27
177 Posted 01/02/2022 at 19:35:01
I was thinking along those lines last night with regard to the likes of Abraham doing well at Roma whereas, in the past, the perception was English players didn't travel.
But then it struck me when Lineker went off to Barca for example, there was no internet, cellphones, facebook, probably no English TV shows. It was payphones and travel cards to call blighty.
Now it's a smaller world, easier to get around fast (Ryanair, faster trains etc) and we are in constant access with the whole world through our phones so I dare say it's less of a big deal for a Londoner to move up North than it was 25 or 30 years ago.
178 Posted 01/02/2022 at 19:50:11
With 3 games in hand I will be disappointed if we don't finish above Brentford.
I would also hope we finish above Leeds and Palace.
179 Posted 01/02/2022 at 19:51:25
As an avid 49ers fan, I'd be happy if he turns out to be Odell. I sincerely hope we don't end up with Antonio Brown though.
I can't see how we lose here. If he bombs, we pay a modest fee we would likely be able to recoup by selling him on. If we end up paying the full whack, that will mean we have the old Dele Alli back and at his peak, he was a force of nature. You're talking about a 20-goal-a-season midfielder / Number 10.
Given his age, statistically, his peak years are with us. Let's hope he reaches his peak. The thought of it excites me beyond words. He was some player under Pochettino.
180 Posted 01/02/2022 at 19:52:38
181 Posted 01/02/2022 at 19:59:00
I hadn't clicked on the payments at all – well done whoever negotiated this. As for a 2½-year deal, if he's good enough that we pay the full £40M, he will get a contract extension anyway (or we do a Michael Ball and just refuse to play him).
Balance sheet-wise though, we would need to be prudent and show a proportion, so not totally a zero-impact at any point (in much the same way as we amortise transfer fees).
182 Posted 01/02/2022 at 20:20:42
I think this might be changing, especially when you see how many kids, seem to be coming out of the cages in south London, which seems to combine aggression and skill, which is a beautiful combination in football!
183 Posted 01/02/2022 at 20:34:37
Brentford cup game is also massive, of course!
184 Posted 01/02/2022 at 20:40:12
My point is this. Great organizations look at character first. Is the player hard-working, self-motivated and will he/she play as part of team? Are they a good person to have in the locker room? The answers need to be a resounding yes before you start looking at talent. We brought someone into the club with four years of under-performing and are hoping a new manager and change of scenery does the trick. That is not how you build a team no matter how little you spend.
I'm sorry that my supporting all the transfer moves this window but one is not good enough for you. I guess I'll find that "positive juice fountain" you mentioned. I will have to make sure it's not Kool-Aid first.
185 Posted 01/02/2022 at 20:48:35
186 Posted 01/02/2022 at 21:00:24
I feel that I must correct you when you say that "He mostly listens to the game on the radio and therefore doesn't watch it".
Although in the autumn of my life I now listen to the away games only, I have over the years, attended games at Goodison Park and away games from Carlisle in the North West, Newcastle in the North East, and various grounds in between, down to Bristol in the South West and Norwich, Ipswich and London in the South East, something in excess of 30 grounds.
I fear that you have based your opinion as a result of my boycotting of games on television which were played in empty stadiums during the Covid Pandemic.
You are however correct in your assessment of my attitude to the vagaries of football, I have over the years come to the conclusion that there are more important things in life than football, although as I have stated on occasion "My world on match days is 120 yards long and 75 yards wide" as I view games from my seat in the Park End.
187 Posted 01/02/2022 at 21:01:26
188 Posted 01/02/2022 at 21:25:10
It will be good for the soul to get some fresh vigour and belief for this season, and to rekindle the spirit of Everton.
Im pleased with the signings and the appointment of Frank Lampard Junior..
Lets start with a good win v Brentford and to beat The Barcodes at their place.
189 Posted 01/02/2022 at 21:55:57
I take heart from Keith Harrison's post @120. Potentially we have the young players to make up a very good defence. As the saying goes: “If you are good enough you are old enough”.
I think Dele Alli is a tremendous signing – he is a thoroughbred with a bit of steel. Just what we needed.
190 Posted 01/02/2022 at 22:06:10
191 Posted 01/02/2022 at 22:17:15
192 Posted 01/02/2022 at 22:37:46
Once I had had him explained to me some years ago, it gave me a different perspective on many things.
We have to want to believe in order to believe.
193 Posted 01/02/2022 at 23:58:57
Watched that game. Simms was a threat all game and would have had a couple of goals only for the Hibs keeper pulling off two very good saves. If I was being very critical, he should have scored I thought when he was clean through.
Beni was okay, I thought, but a lot of work required if he is to make the grade in our first team.
Good experience for both in a hard fought game.
194 Posted 02/02/2022 at 06:52:51
People talking about winning the FA Cup now!!! Shouted down for saying I don't think it is a good signing and we are repeating the same mistakes again in terms of signing players. Let us see what happens.
I spent all day getting stick off other clubs fans over the Dele Alli signing. The one that stuck out was a Wolves fan saying "That is a good example of everything wrong with Everton".
Up the Toffees – Will happily take being proved wrong!
195 Posted 02/02/2022 at 07:26:07
Let's remind ourselves that, in the final game of Ancelotti's reign, we were playing for a place in Europe. We would give anything to be in that position right now. He is currently 4 points clear in the La Liga, beat Barcelona to win the super-cup and remains in the Copa del Rey and Champions League.
Granted, hiring and persevering with Benitez was a diabolical decision, but many posters on here continued to give him support long beyond the point when performances and results dictated he should be fired.
We have taken a big gamble on an inexperienced manager who reached the play-offs in his single season in the Championship and was sacked after half a season in the Premier League. Frank has my 100% backing now he is in role, but let's not delude ourselves about the risk.
196 Posted 02/02/2022 at 07:41:13
As with a manager, you just never know how a signing will work out. Remember Andy Gray? Talk about the original "When he scores, we'll riot".
We are going to win the FA Cup and go to Europe.
Come Saturday afternoon, if my unqualified predictions crash and burn, you can deliver my medicine.
197 Posted 02/02/2022 at 07:45:57
Slightly off topic but on the subject of rioting when scoring, did anyone see that Tony Hibbert has scored on what I think was his debut for Louzy in France.
198 Posted 02/02/2022 at 12:44:01
199 Posted 02/02/2022 at 13:19:37
He looks like, and gives the impression hes well up for it.
As a lifelong Evertonian, and after umpteen numerous new dawns! this could be the start of something we have been promised year after year but never materialised.
I think (hope) we have hit rock bottom, and the only way is up.
Stability this season, get rid of the dead-wood in the summer and push on next season.
Frank and the back room team he is assembling should be able to attract quality players from far and wide. Probably not top 4 players for now, but top 6 players with a point to prove.
Fingers crossed for a brighter future, at last 🤞
200 Posted 02/02/2022 at 13:29:50
201 Posted 02/02/2022 at 22:26:13
I have since seen various posts refering to the phrase. From now on, I should refrain from using the Bible as a reference point about anything Everton. I am now on dangerous ground, but actually we probably need the great "JC" on the coaching staff, and I don't mean Ashley Cole or even Joe Cole…
I am so glad that we have hired Frank Lampard but he will need to be a "Miracle Worker" to get us back to where we belong. I hope Lampard and of course "JC" have a sense of humour, an essential asset if you are an Everton supporter.
202 Posted 02/02/2022 at 23:15:13
This is as bad a position as we have been in for a long time so the Newcastle game could be doubly important to kick-start a revival. Barcodes have hoped to have strengthened their defense so we need stellar performances from our attacking players.
Notwithstanding that, we need to keep the shackles on Saint-Maximin, who is having a decent season so our own defensive attitude needs to be strong.
Sometimes new players take time to settle in but we hope that our guys can do it quickly. Having games in hand means nothing if you cannot get something out of them.
We still have some really tough games against the top teams to come so let's hope Frank Lampard can at least get us some results against some of the others pretty soon.
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