Lampard issues 'red line' warning to Chelsea over Gordon

I think Frank is trying to outflank them. He really does not want to lose Anthony but realizes what he could do with c 㿞M and a couple of loanees from Chelsea.

However, I really believe he has a plan and Anthony is part of that so, in his own way, he is pushing Chelsea away.

Tell them to do one, Frank! 㿨 million and a loan player.

Either way, if it doesn't happen, then I know I'll be happy for him to stay. There will be a lot going on in his head though so hopefully he can shake that off and perform on the pitch to show us what we would have missed.

I would much rather we were in a position to have told Chelsea "He's not for sale, full stop" and instead it was us making an offer for one of their bright stars. Where did all Moshiri's money go, I wonder?

It reminds me a little bit of how Moyes reacted to Man City's courting of Lescott. In that instance, Joleon sort of forced Moyes's hand with that lacklustre effort v Arsenal.

Hopefully Anthony is too professional to pull that stunt. Let's not forget Man Utd and Moyes wanted Fellaini and Baines. Rumour had it they both wanted to go but one demanded to leave, the other got on with his job and honoured his contract.

Gordon default is the First XI and Frank wants Chelsea (or whoever else) to shit or get off the pot. He needs to settle his squad and it's much easier to do keeping young Anthony than waiting on some maybe/maybe not from an opposing club.

As for waiting to the last minute, Roberto Martinez pulled off that Barry, Lukaku, McCarthy coup at the last minute. Deal made that 13-14 season.

As Frank says, Chelsea have not yet increased their offer, so quite rightly he is calling their bluff. After all, he is building up his squad and can't wait until the last moment for Chelsea to stop playing silly buggers.

What I would really like to see is the club openly state that Gordon is not for sale and give him a new contract with a good increase in salary. But as usual, that numpty "Luvvy Bill" is bound to interfere.

㿨M plus 㾶M in realistic add-ons, plus Broja on loan to buy and Gallagher on loan.

Otherwise, see ya next season….

Yes, I think it's weird the whole “Gordon wants to leave” thing is based on him not signing a new deal when he has three years left as it is and no one has said whether we offered him a good deal or an extra 50p. His performances certainly don't reflect someone sulking and seeking an exit.

I wish Christine would add her twopennyworth to this thread – I would be interested in her opinion.

The fact is it's obvious they haven't offered cash to anything like that but stacked the deal with players they want to get off their books. (Our crap can be your crap and we will tell you what a fabulous deal it is!)

Perverse really; if we take it, we will have no money and a couple of extra players costing us couple of hundred thousand a week for the next 3 years, not playing and then we are stuck with them!

Have I got a deal for you! Money talks, Frank, Gordon goes nowhere unless they come up with the readies.

I do like this manager... heart on his sleeve.

Ideally, IMO, we'd get Gallagher on loan as part of the deal and then we'd have money to buy Ben Brereton Diaz outright and have plenty left over to help with FFP.

If that happened, I think we'd have had the best transfer window in a long, long time.

Makes the point that Chelsea already have 7 players in Gordon's position "all of whom are probably better". It says Gordon is already in the right place; he will play and improve; moving to Chelsea will threaten this.

"What is the point these days of Everton FC" is a final question raised!! The suggestions are interesting.

Gordon to Chelsea: nonexistent transfer that encapsulates a grotesque industry

Interesting question, Brent... What is the point? 40 years of misery with the odd moment of euphoria. Strange old affliction this.

Brent @18, According to The Hitch-hiker's Guide To The Galaxy, the ultimate answer is 42. You're just asking the wrong question.

I have a good feeling about today - just hope Gordon's mind is in the right place.

What he's written seems to be a) an assumption that Chelsea haven't made a bid; and b) If they have made a bid, why would they want to when they've got loads of players better than him? and c) Everton FC would be stupid to sell him anyway... and d) he might regret it as he wastes away in some football wasteland.

I think I'd rather see what Frank writes and wait to see what happens.

As for this feller's assertions that Everton are a feeder club, somehow existing to fill the football gobs of the Top 6, that is mindboggling.

We all know why we're in this position. EFC have spent half a billion £s on a dysfunctional procession of managers and players. To the extent that we are now financially straight-jacketed by the P&S and maybe the FFP rules and that we are still in danger of relegation. It looks very much like we have to sell, so that we can reinforce the squad.

Whether we think he's the best player in our team or not, and whether Chelsea have actually made a bid or "expressed an interest", thereby unsettling the player... who knows?

I'd view his sale (if it happens) as allowing us to bring in up to three or four players who will help us to move away from relegation; and stay away. That is the first step to rebuilding a squad that nearly saw us drop into the Championship.

I see it that Frank wants Armando Broja or Gallagher as part of this deal. If not, we will reluctantly accept that, as long as Chelsea pay the full price in cash. We don't want Barkley etc as makeweights.

The (midnight Sunday?) deadline is very fair as we need to sign players, who themselves may want to come here but will also have other options on the table. They will be demanding some answers and, if they are not forthcoming, we may lose out on those targets.

Stick to your guns Frank. If we can get the rumoured non-Chelsea targets in, Diaz and Garner this weekend, Gueye coming in to replace the outgoing Allan and keep Anthony Gordon, we will be good.

My opinion is the transfer money mentioned are way more than his quality or potential. 㿨 mil?? Are we fucking kidding? 㿨 mil and a player? If true, these prices are crazy and we would be total morons if we don't accept them!

I like what Lampard is saying, he smells blood and wants the very most for an asset of ours. Reinvesting this money into the team with young, hungry, high potential players is the right way. Sell one in order to buy three or four.

We might live to regret not taking the money as it would've solved a lot of problems including FFP issues. Now he's almost certainly staying, hopefully we can gain from some of the benefits of the talent Gordon is said to possess. I'm talking about goals and assists! That's what Gordon will be judged on.

Let's hope he's as good as Chelsea and others think he is; otherwise, by the end of the season, his value will of plummeted and we will look like the biggest mugs in the Premier League, as usual.

The reason they sat up and took notice was the game last season, when he charged around like a lunatic. And he did that cos he's invested in this club the way Calvert-Lewin and Holgate never will be.

And if he moves to Chelsea they won't get out of him that same commitment. Certainly we can keep him for another three years, and still sell him for a bomb. What's the bleeding hurry? He kept us up last season, and this season is looking equally perilous.

The same tabloid press reports are saying that Chelsea are agreeing a fee with Leicester for Fofana slightly below 㿼m, but there are no questionmarks about that fee. No-one saying he is over-priced...

I don't get it. Why? In my eyes a good forward is harder to find than a good defender. Sure, Gordon hasn't produced goals and assists in any amounts yet, but you can clearly see he has the potential. Goals and assists often come with experience.

The pace, the nutmegs, the control is already there and are an indication of his potential. There should be no debating over 㿨M being too much, in my eyes it's too low... but I guess only time will tell if he'll be worth more.

But as a comparison, Jadon Sancho for example, last season when he was 21, had 3 goals and 3 assists in the Premier League and cost Utd 㿸.5M. The Premier League isn't an easy place to produce for young players. The clubs that spend those amounts on young players, aren't paying for the finished product, they are paying for potential...

Who would have thought that, 6 years ago, when we got our much-wanted billionaire owner, we would again be back in the position of having to sell our best players, Richarlison and possibly Gordon? The manager is having to buy players that were only probably 5th or 6th on his list of players he would like.

I am sure if he had really wanted Maupay he would have done this deal weeks ago, not wait till Fulham were near signing him. I think the next few days will be important as, unless the striker position is addressed, I think if it isn't, it will leave a team that doesn't score many even more exposed.

I know Lampard said Calvert-Lewin might be back training with the first team next week, but after a long layoff last season and picking up another injury, they will be very cautious of getting him back playing again. Another injury to Calvert-Lewin, and with only having Rondon or Maupay, it will be very precarious.

We were told they'd bid 㿞-㿨 million and many said "bite their hands off"& many said "he's not worth that".

Frank then says there is no bid and quite rightly we say "Well done, Frank" for finally letting us know what the hell is going on, which now seems very little.

Are we now saying that he's still got Everton on his Instagram account or has it all been removed? Such a shame that we as supporters are so badly informed about our club. I'd be very happy to keep the lad. I hope he stays. He's worth more to the club than the money.

The huge shame is that Frank has nit been playing him and protecting him in case he gets a massive bid did come in for him and then he gets injured. I hope he plays today and scores and we say "Not For Sale"

I agree with all you say, but Lampard wouldn't answer when asked "Had Gordon said he would like to move to Chelsea?"

So I guess he and Lampard have obviously spoken about the interest from Chelsea, and I think, if the deal is right for Everton and Lampard, Anthony sadly will be sold.

There won't be any other top clubs in for him, and no-one else will pay this kind of fee. If and when the offer lands, I say take it.

He knows in 2 seasons he has the potential to be excellent and by then, with the new stadium at Bramley-Moore Dock, we will have overcome our FFP fiasco.

Seems like a lot of money to me.

I think Frank is a decent bloke who doesn't want to be seen misleading supporters hence the no denial approach. Chelsea have probably put out the 㿨M figure themselves to fuel the media and gauge reaction. They seem to have adopted a similar approach to the Cucurella and Fofana deals/bids.

If we can bring in Brereton, Garner and Gana without having to sell Gordon, then that would be amazing business. But, assuming we paid 㾻M for Maupay plus 㾸M for Brereton and say ٤M for Gana, where is the money coming from given that we have already bought McNeill and Onana?

Unless there is something else happening that none of us are aware of or the Arteta and Kings Dock money has suddenly appeared, I simply can't see how we do those deals without selling Gordon.

Also, if Chelsea were to actually bid. 㿨M upfront can we realistically turn that offer down? Personally, I would prefer to keep Gordon but the club is bigger than any single player and if his sale helps keep us in the Premier League then so be it (as an alternative to us being relegated when keeping him – may not happen of course).

Fuck off ,Chelsea, we're Everton. How does that sound?

If we sell Gordon, I would hope we invest the money in someone who, like him, has the ability to be a Champions League quality player.

UTFT

We still seem to be getting linked with Guirassy or maybe, as many have said already, Broja remains the real target. In which case the whole Gordon scenario may just be part of the transfer game.

I think I read somewhere today that Aubameyang to Chelsea is in danger of falling through, if so, unless they have someone else in mind, I think that would make a deal for Broja less likely.

Thanks for the link. For me, the most telling part of that article is:

'What is the point these days of Everton Football Club? Is it to compete, to strive through smart moves and homegrown talent to match the top tier? Or simply to service those entities( top six clubs) to exist as a backdrop?'

I don't think this move is in Gordon's interest and, even if Everton do get a inflated transfer price, it will only support a existing self-servicing underperforming structure, not the play on the pitch.

Frank obviously thinks he will provide something special, if he does stay, so let's see if he's right. It's a huge gamble on his part and Gordon has a lot to live up to after all the hype, starting today at Brentford. Good luck to him I hope he scores a hat-rick !

I think he would have adopted the same approach with Gordon, we may never know but I'd say their conversion goes like :
FL - Ant, we don't want to sell you we want you to stay.
AG - I don't want to leave I'm happy I'm a blue.
FL - But if the money gets too silly, we will have to consider it Ant.
AG - I understand after all I'm a blue and know the shit we are in financially, still don't want to go to them Cockney twats.

I think that's the real issue, that he has no desire to play for Chelsea, it may be different if it was city after him and he could carry on living at home and commute to Manny.

Don't know how trustworthy that site is, but I'd take that if it was offered... Much as I love Anthny Gordon and would like him to stay, getting that amount + two players with great potential is too good to turn down!

"Chelsea have offered a new solution of midfielder Gallagher and striker Broja plus 㿅m in exchange for Gordon"

If true, that would be great piece of business!

On the point of them wanting to join us, it's hard to tell, but Lampard could be a draw, plus the prospect of being first-team players, instead of bit-part players...

No Loans!

Otherwise, it's a 㿲M plus add-ons.

Who the fuck makes this stuff up – then has the audacity to publish it?

Is that a good situation? No.

I'm assuming the G is the only letter that's correct in the players name there ?

If not then that is a bite their hands off moment.

Sorry to tell you but both clubs have said that is a total fabrication.

Chelsea have not come back for Gordon and are allegedly looking at Zaha now.

Don't care if Gordon scored last game personally I think that is one hell of an offer from Chelsea. I'd bite their arm off.

Effectively paying 㿏m for Broja and Gallagher. Compare that to paying 㿀N for just McNeil….

That as about as much legs as a snake. Are we seriously going to believe that Chelsea are going to offer us, one player, who's value is equal to Gordon's, then give us a striker, when they haven't got one themselves, and be stupid enough to splash out 㿅m on top. Lol give it a rest.

The Gordon deal won't be going through this window. And certainly not at those prices.

He's well over 6ft, has pace and good feet. Had a half-decent season in a poor Southampton side last year. His first in the prem.

If we're looking to the future and want to bring in a decent if a bit raw striker to lead the line you could do a lot worse imo. If he's effectively costing 㾽.5M and ticks the home grown box (been at Chelsea since he was a kid) it's a no brainer for me. I can't see us losing money longer term.

Gallagher had a great season last year on loan, we should definitely sign him to add quality to the midfield.

Broja be good competition for Calvert-Lewin, also as he's now quite I jury probe (I'm assuming Calvert-Lewin won't be at Everton next season as it is).

I'm really undecided about this one, do I want him to move for the ridiculous sums allegedly being offered, or do I want him to stay and hopefully become the player we all hope he can be? Many Twitter accounts just talk a load of bollocks anyway, so let's see what happens in the next four days.

Meanwhile, another Twitter account saying Man Utd have made enquiries about Anthony Gordon. Who are they going to offer in any deal, Wan Bissaka and Phil Jones?? Doubt this rumour to be true anyway, but I'd be telling them to shove their enquiry where the sun don't shine.

We don't need the money, the squad as it is, is sufficient. He's just going to get better and better. More goals, more assists, superb work rate, and a boyhood Evertonian. We'd be fucking nuts to sell him.

We've already bought 6 players – which is a lot to bed into a squad.I wouldn't be too down-hearted if there are no more incoming players.

Gordon is as likely to score/create as many as Broja. Allan is broadly the same standard as Gueye. There's still a chance of loans too if we really need more.

With Maupay on board and Calvert-Lewing etting closer to fitness, we should be on course to pick up enough points for a mid-table finish. That, sadly, is progress.

This season isn't about glory, it's about building the foundations for something special in a year or two from now.

I totally agree and can't believe those who say we should bite Chelsea's hand off. What for? Some cash and a couple of makeweights they no longer want in exchange for one of the brightest English prospects with skill, pace and a tremendous work ethic? Madness.

I'd also take Pereira given the chance. He was class for a very poor West Brom side.

Tend to agree with most of what you say in your post, but I do feel another striker is essential, even if it's only a loan. To have only two out-and-out strikers (hopefully Rondon is moved on) is dicing with death, seeing as Calvert-Lewin has been having injury problems for the past 12 months. If he breaks down again, we are left with Maupay (and Rondon) and Gordon is definitely not an out-and-out striker.

Surely we can scrape together 㾻M for Ben Diaz if that's what Blackburn are asking, or a 12-month loan deal for Borja. This season is definitely one where we need to maintain our PremierLeague status because I doubt there will be anyone wanting our last season playing at Goodison to be in the Championship.

“I wouldn't be too down-hearted if there are no more incoming players.”

I'd say they were absolutely essential because, without any new players coming in by Thursday, then this squad will have a very hard time keeping us up – especially the way Frank Lampard uses them – and we've already had a few injuries depleting this inadequate squad.

Gallagher – one good season, Broja – half a good season.

Can't understand the obsession with them. Madness to sell your best players.

I'd challenge every single one of the Everton board or senior management to come on here and debate this issue. But they're all cowards hiding behind their overpaid desk jobs and wouldn't engage with the fans at any level. Shameful.

Rob #73, I can't see the sense in buying Brereton-Diaz now we have Maupay. Both v similar. I can see the sense in getting Broja on loan if that is still a goer though - as he offers something different to Calvert-Lewin and Maupay.

I also think Gordon will have a good season for us.

What's more essential than new players is that Lampard better organises the ones we have. We can see he's a good man manager with the way he's transformed Iwobi and shown similar positive signs with Holgate and Davies. Just needs to sort the defensive set-up in particular.

Watching Richarlison yesterday – he was a steal for 㿨mill – what a player... gutted!

To lose Gordon as well would be shit to say the least. FWIW, I think he will stay for at least another season.

Btw I think Gana Gueye is much better than Allan, but yes, they are similar. That is the one I want to see before transfer deadline day.

We replaced Lukaku – who had just scored 25 Premier L eague goals in his last season for Everton – with a gassed out Rooney for 𧵘k per week.

I am in the "Gordon to Stay" camp but what you have posted is very hard to argue against and very pragmatic. As you say, there is never any guarantee any player will kick on.

I am still concerned about our Premier League status and Lampard's decision to play three at the back has not made it any rosier. That system needs quality players and we do not have them here.

I will contradict myself here as Chelsea won using that system under Conte and turned Victor Moses into a very good player, albeit for one season. So Maybe a couple of ours could start playing like quality players rather than just decent players?

He couldn't possibly — could he??

Two players plus 㿅M...???