Everton sign Garner from Manchester United

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Everton have successfully added James Garner to their squad ahead of the transfer deadline after they agreed a fee with Manchester United for the young midfielder, making him their second deadline-day signing.

According to multiple reports yesterday, negotiations were concluded between the two clubs that would see the Blues pay £9m for Garner but the deal could eventually top £15.5m once all appearance-related clauses are met and it also includes a 20% sell-on clause for the Red Devils.

Leicester and Southampton were also said to be interested in the 21-year-old who decided to make the switch to Goodison Park over other suitors. 

Personal terms were also agreed yesterday on a four-year contract and Garner underwent a medical, with the final details wrapped up late this afternoon.

"I spoke with the manager. He's got a real plan for the club and for me," Garner said when he signed. "Working with him on a daily basis is major for me and my development. I think that was the key reason." He will wear the Number 37 shirt.

Garner spent last season on loan at Nottingham Forest and was among the most highly-regarded midfielders in the Championship as he helped the Midlands club return to the Premier League after a 22-year absence

He joined Idrissa Gueye through the door before the transfer window closed -- the Senegal international's move from Paris Saint-Germain was also simply awaiting an official announcement from the club.


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Mike Allison
1 Posted 31/08/2022 at 14:32:15
Gueye, Garner and Brereton Diaz would be excellent business. It looks like Chukwueze is becoming more likely than BBD though.

I've got to stop checking every 47 mins.

Andrew Ellams
2 Posted 31/08/2022 at 14:32:17
Well his Wiki page looks legit:

"In August 2022 Garner was offered to join Everton for a fee of £15 million. Garner is a keen admirer of the gigantic, Merseyside institution as he modelled his footballer role on his hero, Darren Gibson.

On the 31st of August 2022, James Garner changed his phone ringtone to "Spirit of the Blues" which is a widely popular song associated with Everton FC. Garner is a long-time admirer of this classic terrace song."

Ben King
3 Posted 31/08/2022 at 14:36:32
Looks a real prospect.

But where’s our striker please? Need someone to score goals!

Kim Vivian
4 Posted 31/08/2022 at 14:38:08
Need to make sure we get the right person here - would Benedict Cumberbatch make a big difference in our midfield?
Peter Carpenter
5 Posted 31/08/2022 at 14:48:52
Time for some departures or there won't be enough lockers.
Peter Carpenter
6 Posted 31/08/2022 at 14:51:27
And nice to see Anthony Gordon in that lovely, ice-cool blue too.
Lee Courtliff
7 Posted 31/08/2022 at 14:56:59
This is definitely the kind of signing we should be making. Obvious potential and minimal (by today's standards) transfer fee. And I doubt his wages are anything astronomical.

Even if he flops, we'll be able to sell him to a Championship club in a couple of years time for a few million back.

Strangely enough I'm really optimistic about the season, even though we haven't won a game.

Kieran Kinsella
8 Posted 31/08/2022 at 15:06:32
We have 26 in the first team squad now according to the official website; if we add two or three more we'd have to exclude 3 or 4.

Presumably Townsend and Godfrey as they're out till New Year. Then I guess Gomes?

Pat Kelly
9 Posted 31/08/2022 at 15:11:10
Well, if it doesn't work out, he knows how to get us back up.
Nick Page
10 Posted 31/08/2022 at 15:18:09
Can anyone answer me where the fuck have West Ham got all this money from?
Derek Knox
11 Posted 31/08/2022 at 15:23:12
Nick @ 10, the Porn Kings probably, and of course Debbie, from Debbie does Dallas ! That's what they call ' filthy lucre ' !
Jim Potter
12 Posted 31/08/2022 at 15:29:50
Lee*7, I'm feeling positive as well. Weirdly. Zero wins and the Shite to come next.

We've been unlucky.

I'm off for a head examination just to be on the safe side.

Is this lad any good?

Will Mabon
13 Posted 31/08/2022 at 15:34:01
Can he play false number nine?
Robert Hesketh
14 Posted 31/08/2022 at 15:34:58
If this James Garner is so good, why did'nt Forest buy him? He was with them last season and they've bought everyone else !!!
Rob Dolby
15 Posted 31/08/2022 at 15:38:11
This transfer window is confusing at best. Why do we need 3 additional centre mids when we only had 1 striker?

The club are skint, we can't buy Cornet but can buy McNeil, Gana, Garner, Onana and Mauphey.

Where is Garner going to fit in? If he was that good for Forrest why didn't they buy him, they bought everyone else.

Just seems like a random purchase this one.

Rob Dolby
16 Posted 31/08/2022 at 15:40:49
Spooky that Rob 14.
Paul Kossoff
17 Posted 31/08/2022 at 15:43:12
Bit of a maverick player, a cow boy who lays all his cards on the table. Poker faced with it too.
Robert Hesketh
18 Posted 31/08/2022 at 15:43:25
Are you copying my name and comments Rob (15)?
Nick White
19 Posted 31/08/2022 at 15:44:34
I really liked his performance in “The Great Escape”. Hopefully he won’t have to do that role again while he plays for us (assuming he signs).
Will Mabon
20 Posted 31/08/2022 at 15:45:01
The truth is out - Robert & Rob is a shady dual account.
Derek Knox
21 Posted 31/08/2022 at 15:45:50
It could be The Great Escape from Manure, or one to be registered under the Rockford Files !

Or maybe he's just a Maverick ! :-)

David West
22 Posted 31/08/2022 at 15:46:02
Another positive signing. Makes the gana deal feel even more perfect.
Really young midfield we have now.
Hes still young, Onana still young grodaon, mcneil & gray still young.
Gana will be the glue for this team.

One more forward option, Diaz maybe or a wild card we havnt seen coming and for one window it's got to be seen as positive imo.

Soren Moyer
23 Posted 31/08/2022 at 15:47:52
The wheeler dealer!
Jay Harris
24 Posted 31/08/2022 at 15:53:22
Im just glad we got Gueye over the line and the next step for me would be a goalscorer but we are being linked with Garner, Kudus and "chuck a whisky" or whatever his name is (another winger!!!) and talk of BBD or ANother seems to have died down.

We need goals not just control of the ball.

Ian Linn
25 Posted 31/08/2022 at 15:56:57
Great, yet another midfielder. What about a fucking striker.
Fran Mitchell
26 Posted 31/08/2022 at 15:58:12
seems a decent talent who will provide important squad depth. has potential and comes at a nominal fee.

decent passer, can score from midfield, and will be a solid player.

our bench yesterday highlighted the need for more players. Onana is young and raw and can't be expected to play every game. Gana cat be expected to play every minute of every game. Same for Iwobi (although he sure will try).

an injury to any of them and we're back with options of Davies and just about that. Allan injury issues and Doucoure too. Gomes just isn't good enough.

good solid signing by looks of it.

really wish we were after Gakbo. Looks a player.

David West
27 Posted 31/08/2022 at 15:58:20
15 Rob. Its depth. We've seen how a couple of injuries ruined our midfield last year. Your best 3 or 4 midfield may not play every week. Injuries, suspensions etc. I mean we had gomes Allan, dacoure last year none of them fit now.
It was our weakest part of the team, yes we didn't score enough goals but a good midfield should help us do that, while not conceding as many, also the 5 subs mean teams can freshen up like Leeds did last night, while we didn't have much options.

Onana, iwobi, Doucouré, Gana & Garner.

3 from them each week with Davies & Allan as back up.

I suspect Gomes and or Allan may leave, maybe even Davies but warrington offers as much as gomes anyway.

If Allan & gomes left now it would be a good window with a forward in too.

James Marshall
28 Posted 31/08/2022 at 15:58:41
Reports suggesting its a deal with a buy-back option for Man Utd
Rob Dolby
29 Posted 31/08/2022 at 16:08:01
Robert 18, I would say great minds think alike but I am no brain surgeon!

David 27, Yep we all want squad depth but the striker situation must be the priority.

Brian Murray
30 Posted 31/08/2022 at 16:08:57
Any chance keane and Rondon going.

31 Posted 31/08/2022 at 16:10:51
Blackburn have signed George Hirst (a striker) from Leicester, hopefully frees up a deal for Diaz to leave. Just hope it's to us.
James Marshall
32 Posted 31/08/2022 at 16:28:44
Blackburn play Blackpool tonight so I doubt you'll see anything happen with Brereton Diaz until tomorrow (if at all).
Nicolas Piñon
33 Posted 31/08/2022 at 16:29:52
never seenim play but I'm excited about it

also if he can shoot from outside its good, other than townsend and maybe gordon nobody does that and a good team must count on that resource.

Or maybe we have it and theyve hadnt shown it yet. Who knows.

Still time for the window to close but hell of a window I believe. Strength in depth is the most important thing weve been lacking so this sounds good IMO.

Clap clap to thelwell and lampard. We still need the uncontrolable luck with keepin the troop fresh and fit and then well be alright and maybe fancy some nice cup run.


Joe McMahon
34 Posted 31/08/2022 at 16:31:26
We need strikers (one's that score goals) urgently. We have Maupay, an (always injured) fashion model who can only score in and around the 6 yard box and a past it (never) has been who hasn't scored since the days of the Bay City Rollers.
Bill Gall
35 Posted 31/08/2022 at 16:41:16
To me the plan all along was to strengthen the weakness in the team from last season and that was central defender and the midfield. With a limited supply of finance we have achieved that.
There was never a priority for a striker until DCL got injured 2 days before the season started, and that started everyone screaming for a striker. We were aware that Richarlison was leaving before the season started and it was a priority to replace him.
Both positions are for players that other clubs with better financial muscle plus offering European football have the advantage over Everton.
We all want better but so far I think our transfer inputs with still more time left, with the financial restrictions we are under is proving quite successful.
We don't have the money to bring in a striker to replace DCL. so whoever we try to bring in as a striker will be aware that he may be just a backup. The only alternative is a similar player like Richarlison who can play either winger or central striker.
Our major problem last season was a poor squad, for replacement of injuries and substitutions it is slowly improving and cant be resolved with 1 window.
David West
36 Posted 31/08/2022 at 16:42:20
I'm confident we will get another striker.
I think the Chelsea shit with Gordon threw alot of stuff in the air.
Planning for things, then they want to take best player, must of messed with the plan.
Let's hope it's back on track now. Just seems to be quiet on the striker front, not hearing much.
Fingers crossed.

Cant see Keane leaving with mina and Godfrey injured.
Rondon going nowhere till his contracts up.
Allan, gomes & maybe Davies are our real only possible out goings imo.

Robert Hesketh
37 Posted 31/08/2022 at 16:47:32
Showing your age now Joe. 34. Me mam used to wear them in her hair as well.
Did'nt know thry were called Bay City though.
sean roe
38 Posted 31/08/2022 at 16:49:37
I don't like the sound of the 15 million buy back clause to be honest.
Brian Murray
39 Posted 31/08/2022 at 16:55:30
Robert post 37. Very sad story. Teenage boy band very successful but ripped off by an agent. All skint and lead singer passed away eric mcewan
Mike Gaynes
40 Posted 31/08/2022 at 16:57:14
I'm more pleased about Garner than most, particularly at that price. I thought he was Forest's best player in the promotion final, and I like players who perform at their peak in the biggest games. I don't know why United don't want him, but based on that one game I like him very much.

Gordon has clearly stepped into the Richarlison role, and I don't think we'd have gone for Maupay if there was any better striker available, so I doubt there's another goalscorer coming in this window. Seems like the business is pretty much done.

Andrew Bentley
41 Posted 31/08/2022 at 16:58:33
Excited by this one. I know we all want a striker but we also need other midfielders and attackers who can score their fair share of goals. We have been too reliant for years on 1 or 2 players to get goals and having just sold one of them and the other being injured then it’s good to see us signing some attacking players.

With Maupay, and now Garner, along with Gordon who has found his shooting boots, as well as Gray chipping in then we do have capability for more goals across the team now.

Now if we get a striker too before the deadline (still convinced on Broja!!) then this will have been an excellent window and Moshiri et al will be judged very positively for the work that they have done

Mike Gaynes
42 Posted 31/08/2022 at 17:03:03
Andrew, by all published accounts Moshiri hasn't been involved in this window, which may account for its success. He has finally learned to get out of the way.
Dale Self
43 Posted 31/08/2022 at 17:06:59
Yeah, I was thinking at least 'M' knows when to just be gone. If we had some megalo type that was hanging about spouting confidence when everyone sees the house of cards that might have put us in a full tail spin. He did hire Thelwell and let him do his job as best we know, credit there.
Kieran Kinsella
44 Posted 31/08/2022 at 17:07:41
Are we gana get confirmation on any of these deals?
Si Cooper
45 Posted 31/08/2022 at 17:12:56
Without a big sale I can’t see a big money spend on a goalscorer in this window. We’ve got Maupay and I’d hope he hasn’t just come with the intention of being a bench warmer. Without spending big I don’t see any way of signing someone who couldn’t easily find the Prem defenders just that bit too good for them to be effective against.

I’d never want to do a deal with an automatic buy back clause so I’m hoping that initial report was inaccurate.
Mind you, I know nothing about this player so a buy-back would be a good indication that United still had some faith he will become world class. Just hope he’s dedicated and a big upgrade on most of the midfielders we’ve had recently.

Derek Taylor
46 Posted 31/08/2022 at 17:15:01
Say what we will, it looks like ending up an excellent window with Chairman Bill back in the negotiator's role ! He never ceases to confound us but let us hope that Moshiri won't want his money back any time soon !
Si Cooper
47 Posted 31/08/2022 at 17:17:39
Mike Gaynes (40) just beat me to it on chance of signing another goalscorer unless it’s a dirt cheap gamble or on loan (with no guarantee of an option to buy).
Nick Page
48 Posted 31/08/2022 at 17:17:41
Hahaha Derek. Funny joke 👍
Kevin Molloy
49 Posted 31/08/2022 at 17:18:34
If it's a Deulofeu-like situation where they can buy back whenever they like, then that is just a glorified loan.

Why wouldn't you want to give your best players first-team experience in their early 20s, then 'I'll have that back' once he gets good? I would not be happy with that.

How about we grow our own players, rather than develop Man Utds.

Chris Leyland
50 Posted 31/08/2022 at 17:18:59
It's 11 years ago today since Arteta left the club to join Arsenal and we are still no nearer to knowing where the money is.
Mike Gwyer
51 Posted 31/08/2022 at 17:19:05
Si #45,

Also mate we don't know what the buy-back figure is, it could be £20M, £25M or even £30M.

One thing I have noticed in this transfer window, no club is taking the piss out of Everton.

Bobby Mallon
52 Posted 31/08/2022 at 17:23:44
We need a striker
James Marshall
53 Posted 31/08/2022 at 17:25:25
This Link will give you a good idea of how buy-back clauses work.

From skim reading, it seems buy-back fees are much higher than the original sale price.

Jamie Crowley
54 Posted 31/08/2022 at 17:25:47
I really, really hope this happens.

As Mike Gaynes said and I agree with, this kid was "mustard" in the games I watched him play with Forest.

If we land this kid I think it'll be a 9 out of 10 window. We've overhauled the entire squad and improved. Amazing window.

sean roe
55 Posted 31/08/2022 at 17:27:30
Chris @ 50,

Nearly as long as waiting for the confirmation as to whether Gueye is coming back!

Kevin Molloy
56 Posted 31/08/2022 at 17:28:53

Even if they set the figure at eg £30m plus, that's still grim. If he becomes a real player, we'd want to keep him, or sell him for double that.

Phil Head
57 Posted 31/08/2022 at 17:31:02
Personally, not impressed. We appear to be spunking money up the wall.

We've essentially bulked the squad up with very average players like McNeil, Tarkowski, Maupay and Garner. Add those to the likes of Patterson, Mykolenko, Gray and Townsend.

None of those would be out of place in the Championship.

It's embarrassing to think that the likes of Brentford are chasing Mudryk at Shakhtar, Southampton are chasing Gakpo at PSV. Young, potentially World Class talents, whilst we're trying to sign a perennial substitute, Samuel Chukwueze?

No doubt this batch will leave for free at the end of their contracts too?

Tom Bowers
58 Posted 31/08/2022 at 17:32:22
Despite the fact that we haven't gotten that top class striker, one has to admit that many games are won and lost in the midfield areas.

Everton have been weak in that area for many seasons so having a plethora of midfielders doesn't bother me given the demands of the Premier League and how injuries plague Everton.

We know that Gray, Maupay and now Antony Gordon can score goals and maybe they will see us through plus Calvert-Lewin too coming back and adding to the offence.

In suppose the big question is who will be shipped out, if not now then certainly in January as a few of them won't want to be languishing on the bench too much.

James Marshall
59 Posted 31/08/2022 at 17:33:09
Maybe Kevin, but it appears it's a 5-year deal so we should get some value out of him with a £15M outlay. Utd presumably can't simply 'recall' him and force us to sell him at any given moment, unless the clause specifically states that.

That article above alludes to buy-back clauses with specifics about things like a 2 year minimum timescale before they can trigger it. Either way he's a cracking footballer who can do a bit of everything, and Utd fans online seem gutted he's leaving – plus even if he does go back to Utd, we don't lose money on the deal. If anything, we're likely to make money on it.

Sam Hoare
60 Posted 31/08/2022 at 17:33:41
I'm not that sold on Garner but £8M plus add one is a very good fee for a young player who was one of the best central midfielders in the championship and is an excellent character by all accounts.

For me he's a similar profile to Tom Davies, he can pass a bit, dribble a bit, tackle a bit but doesn't do any of them to a super high level (yet). He's possibly a tad quicker than Davies and he does take a very good set piece.

I think he'll be behind Onana, Gueye, Iwobi and Doucoure for the central 2 or 3 spots but he's only 21 and £8M for a strong squad option with potential is sensible business to me.

Bill Watson
61 Posted 31/08/2022 at 17:37:22
Brian #30,

Why would we try to offload Keane when we have 3 centre-backs out with medium- to long-term injuries?

If we actually get Garner and Gueye over the line, that'll represent an excellent window which has addressed the weaknesses in the side. Yes, we could do with another striker but that'd be a bonus.

James Marshall
62 Posted 31/08/2022 at 17:39:39
Do we need another striker though? We have Calvert-Lewin, Maupay and Rondon.

Okay, we all know Rondon is pretty limited, and Maupay doesn't score tons, but if we buy another striker, where does he fit in terms of the squad? I've said it already but you can only have 25 players so...

Steavey Buckley
63 Posted 31/08/2022 at 17:40:01
Until Everton have capable strikers amongst the team, it all adds up to very little, who Everton buy other than strikers.

Although another centre-half should be signed. Everton have already lost 3 in the first 2 weeks of the season.

Dale Self
64 Posted 31/08/2022 at 17:48:27
After trying to score some quality on the cheap Everton have discovered that they will pay top price or develop someone else's talent in the striker market. At this point it is career/team-breaking if you get it wrong because we won't be able to afford a second purchase.

I think we are right in taking a measured approach since this looks to be an inflated striker moment and we could get by with what we've got.

Neil Lawson
65 Posted 31/08/2022 at 17:48:41
No issues with too many players in the squad. Just need to register one midfielder by the name of Godfrey Garneronanagana
Nick Page
66 Posted 31/08/2022 at 17:49:22
First thing, remember every transfer window Everton seemingly won? That went south rapidly? Let's reserve judgement until we have a few wins under the belt!

Secondly, and perhaps most importantly – we still don't have a bloody striker….

James Marshall
67 Posted 31/08/2022 at 17:50:39
From Twitter: Trabzonspor working on deal for Solomon Rondon. Gomes and Allan could also both leave tomorrow, as Everton prepare to announce the double signing of Gana and Garner.
Jerome Shields
68 Posted 31/08/2022 at 17:50:43
I still wonder why Nottingham Forest were not interested in Garner. They had him on loan long enough.

Maybe he will be the first Everton transfer success from Man Utd.

James Marshall
69 Posted 31/08/2022 at 17:53:42
Jerome - Notts Forest already have Dean Henderson on loan from Man Utd. I think I'm right in saying you can only have one loanee from another Premier League club hence why he had to go back to Utd (plus they've already spent about £400billion on other players).
Neil Lawson
70 Posted 31/08/2022 at 17:54:56
It's my age. Gordon Garneronanagana !!
Tony Everan
71 Posted 31/08/2022 at 18:04:02
Some reports say a buy back clause, doesn’t say how much that is. Other reports say a 25% sell on clause. It’s high but I’d prefer if it was the latter.
Jamie Crowley
72 Posted 31/08/2022 at 18:07:52
James @ 69 is correct.

My son and I watched the playoffs and finals, and we both agreed that Forest's massive weak link was their keeper. We both agreed they'd survive in the Premier League with a different keeper.

They got their keeper, and therefore couldn't keep Garner.

Pretty sure that's how it works, as James alludes to.

73 Posted 31/08/2022 at 18:08:03
Jerome (68) - Kanchelskis, Howard?
Brian Wilkinson
74 Posted 31/08/2022 at 18:11:49
I’m not sure what all the fuss is about, did anyone see our bench against Leeds, even more so Davies starting the game, no wonder Onyana was knackered towards the end, all the covering he was doing.

If we get Garner and Gueye, then that’s already strengthened our midfield, Gomes and Davies should be nowhere near our match day squad.

I am sure we will bring another striker in, but Guaye, Garner and whatever striker brought in, is a very good window for me.

If we get silly money for Gordon then so be it, if he stays good, if not then use the money wisely.

Lee Courtliff
75 Posted 31/08/2022 at 18:12:29
How some people can be negative about this signing after the millions we've wasted on (insert countless names here) is beyond me!

He's young, he's affordable and, if United have inserted a buy-back clause, he MUST have real potential. On top of that, he gives us an extra option in the middle of the park, that same middle that we have all criticised time after time.

Even if United buy him back in, say, 2/3 years, it means we've had a really good player in our team and we're about to make a profit on him. Surely that's better than the Laughing Stock we've become over the last few years?

Pat Kelly
76 Posted 31/08/2022 at 18:14:45
James #69, don't be ridiculous. They've spent only £321 billion.
Mike Gaynes
79 Posted 31/08/2022 at 18:24:04
James #67, wow, if that's true this will be a truly splendid window.
Per Stumo
80 Posted 31/08/2022 at 18:24:50
Nick @ 10: From Wham!

(I'd get my coat if it wasn't so hot)

James Hughes
81 Posted 31/08/2022 at 18:27:06
Can't comment on the player at all, if he is good enough, then so be it.

It does amaze me people say we have players who are Championship quality at best, when the same people say we should be scouring the same league for bargains.
Brian Wilkinson
82 Posted 31/08/2022 at 18:31:32
Maverick of a guy, or am I confusing him with another James Garner.

Anyway if all else fails be good for our great escape.

Mike Gaynes
83 Posted 31/08/2022 at 18:31:52
Tony #71, it may not matter much, because all those clauses can be both negotiable and flexible.

I've been on loan to TW from the Barcelona chat board since 2005, and TW has never acted on its option to buy. I tried to find out why, but my agent isn't taking my calls.

Mike Gaynes
84 Posted 31/08/2022 at 18:34:23
Brian #82, if we play him at attacking mid, he'll be Supporting Your Local Striker.
Sam Hoare
85 Posted 31/08/2022 at 18:35:51
If Southampton get Gakpo, I'll be jealous.

I'm pleased we seem to be getting a more solid midfield in place but I think goals and dynamism up front are still lacking. We haven't replaced Richarlison.

A player like Gakpo who can score and assist frequently whilst having real top class potential would be the cherry on the cake for what's looking a quite decent window. Goals please.

Ed Prytherch
86 Posted 31/08/2022 at 18:35:54
Jerome 68 and Ghost writer 73 - add Phil Neville.
John Keating
87 Posted 31/08/2022 at 18:36:03
I have to laugh when I read “he's shit”, “he's shite”, “Championship at best”, “why aren't we buying the best young talent at millions of billions”…

Well, we have to remember it's actually a team game. Some of the best teams ever, and I include Everton teams, had great team players who were not household names. Look no further than our '80s teams

We need strength in depth all over the pitch and, under Lampard and Thelwell finally appear to be getting it. There was really nothing on the bench at Leeds; hopefully at the weekend we will see a difference.

Give them all a chance – and time!

Raymond Fox
88 Posted 31/08/2022 at 18:36:37
I like what I've seen of him, we are starting to look more like a team now.
If we can steer clear of serious injuries which seem to occur all too often to us, I think we finish mid table. I wasnt thinking that a week or two ago.
Mark Ryan
89 Posted 31/08/2022 at 18:41:17
The Leicester City team that won the Premier League was not full of world-beating millionaires and so I don't get the disappointment with our latest signings. I'm pretty pleased and feel happy at the choices taken.
Stu Darlington
90 Posted 31/08/2022 at 18:42:12
Bill @35

“There was never a priority for a striker until Calvert-Lewin got injured 2 days before the season started, and that started everyone screaming for a striker. “

I respectfully beg to differ.

We have desperately needed a striker since Lukaku departed, the club knew this and did nothing to rectify it. Richarlison was not signed as a striker, he evolved into one out of necessity.

Tony Everan
91 Posted 31/08/2022 at 18:57:04
Chuckwueze deal agreed, if reports are true. A 1-year loan deal with £39M permanent transfer next summer. I know our scouts here like him a lot. A coup?
Neil Copeland
92 Posted 31/08/2022 at 18:57:06
Pat #76, yes but if they spent another £79 billion it might add up to £400 billion.
Colin Glassar
93 Posted 31/08/2022 at 19:00:42
Just got home from work. Is Gana “still on the verge”?
Martin Mason
94 Posted 31/08/2022 at 19:03:19
Could be an exceptional buy. I just feel sooooo positive.
Robert Tressell
95 Posted 31/08/2022 at 19:08:37
Si #45, we don't need a big money striker signing. Realistically no striker better than Calvert-Lewin is now will join us. What we need is a striker who could become better than Calvert-Lewin. That sort of player need not cost more than £15M.

So hopefully we're not choosing Garner over striker talent.

Jerome #68, it is interesting that Forest haven't signed him but have paid £13M for Mangala. Slightly different sorts of players I suppose.

It leaves us with 6 centre-mid players (assuming Gueye joins too) competing for 2 or 3 spots. That seems a bit nuts to me – although I would expect him to settle down as a decent signing over time.

Barry Williams
96 Posted 31/08/2022 at 19:08:55
Mark Ryan - 89

Neither were the title winning teams of the 80s, but that might be an optimistic step too far!

Onto the subject of strikers - I never thought there was any chemistry between Calvert-Lewin and Richarlison, and after all, it is a team game. We have two new players in and Gordon probably going to benefit from more room to play without being secondary to 'stars'.

For the record, I just hope we are lessening in the diving department – I found Richarlison, James and Mina an absolute embarrassment when it came to faking injuries and fouls and found myself shouting at Everton players, which I don't do even when they make a mistake!

No diving please, Everton!

Hugh Jenkins
97 Posted 31/08/2022 at 19:12:41
I notice several comments along the lines: "If he was that good, Forest would have bought him."

From what I read at the time, Forest were desperate to buy him but Man Utd wouldn't sell – so Forest looked elsewhere.

Since then, Ten Hag has arrived in the Man Utd hot seat and is making all these overtures to Frankie de Jong at Barcelona. So perhaps it is that Garner sees his future elsewhere and has opted for us out of the several clubs that were interested in buying him.

Nicolas Piñon
98 Posted 31/08/2022 at 19:12:52
I've just seen a story from Gana – he's in a plane with three blue hearts.
Steavey Buckley
99 Posted 31/08/2022 at 19:13:42
I am not convinced Calvert-Lewin will return fully fit. He has hit that wall in the road where injuries and recurrences of injuries keep blocking his return.
Mark Ryan
100 Posted 31/08/2022 at 19:16:10
Chuck Berry deal done! Looks a fast athletic lad. A striker! – finally to play alongside Maupay or Calvert-Lewin.

If we get this Garner lad and Gueye too, I'll judge the club now, it's been a really good transfer window. Marcel Brands – look and learn!!!

Julian Wait
101 Posted 31/08/2022 at 19:19:11
Birkenhead lad. Family are RS. Hero is Slippy G. And I don't care about that, just like I don't care about Coady (ex RS) or Gordon (who was also on the RS books).

Looks a real prospect and he played a lot of games last season to help Forest get promoted (44 of a possible 46 league games, plus playoffs).

The minor mystery there is why Forest didn't want and get him back given they have signed 300 players this summer.

Colin Glassar
102 Posted 31/08/2022 at 19:21:57
Gana Gueye spotted eating a burger in Wimpy's in St John's market.
Jamie Crowley
103 Posted 31/08/2022 at 19:22:16
Julian -

They'll be converted and see the light.

Brian Harrison
104 Posted 31/08/2022 at 19:23:01
Mark 100

Ah Chuck Berry bit easier to say than Chuckwueze. Sorry, I don't know how to pronounce his surname.

Gana Gueye posted a picture from the Titanic Hotel in Liverpool this morning, so he is definitely in the building, as the saying goes.

Also, the deal for Garner sorted so should make for a lot of photo shoots tomorrow and doubt whether any other club will unveil 3 players, could even be 1 more as well.

Mike Corcoran
105 Posted 31/08/2022 at 19:24:29
Colin Glassar :

"Just got home from work. Is Gana “still on the verge”?"

Yeah he's on the vinagre stroke.

Nick White
106 Posted 31/08/2022 at 19:26:56
Mark #100 where have you seen that?
Bill Gall
107 Posted 31/08/2022 at 19:28:06
Stu #90,

I believe that Lukaku left in 2017 so it does not seem that there has been any effort for 5 yreas that makes this season any different, except with Calvert-Lewin's injury we had only Rondon and that was when the shit hit the fan.

Mark Ryan
108 Posted 31/08/2022 at 19:29:06
Looked on YouTube at him and then got a pop-up saying Signed 1-year loan with obligation to buy, deal done. Not sure of that source. Looked like a Spanish newspaper saying done deal.
Simon Dalzell
109 Posted 31/08/2022 at 19:30:35
Good signing.

Now for Brereton Diaz please.

Brent Stephens
110 Posted 31/08/2022 at 19:30:59
Obligation?! £39m?!

Obligation - maybe. £39m I don't believe for a moment.

OK, guess I might be wrong.

Brian Harrison
111 Posted 31/08/2022 at 19:34:04
Liverpool Echo also say that the radio station in Spain is reporting the deal of a loan with a guarantee buy out of £39 million.
Dale Self
112 Posted 31/08/2022 at 19:39:03
It looks like we're spending the Kean money on Chukwueze. I like that Thelwell doesn't leave us waiting for the bigs to line their shitty deals up.
Joe Digney
113 Posted 31/08/2022 at 19:39:38
I'd like to see Diaz come on board too Simon.

Get this Villarreal lad on a loan with obligation for next season to be able throw in a bid for Diaz tomorrow. £10-12 million with add-ons should do it.

Simon Dalzell
114 Posted 31/08/2022 at 19:41:02
Spot on, Joe.
Robert Tressell
115 Posted 31/08/2022 at 19:42:13
Hugh # 97, you're probably right. There's a good chance he was waiting for a better offer and Forest would have gladly taken him earlier in the window.
Tony Hill
116 Posted 31/08/2022 at 19:45:53
I hope we’ve got our FFP maths right.
Simon Dalzell
117 Posted 31/08/2022 at 19:50:31
Skybet 8/1 Brereton Diaz to Everton before the deadline.

I don't like those odds.

Joe Digney
118 Posted 31/08/2022 at 19:54:35
Simon, unfortunately, from what I've read, I don't think Lampard was too keen on him. Maupay was probably the alternative they pursued instead.

“The Bobble” has just said on the latest View from the Bullens episode that we aren't close to signing a forward player, which is pretty worrying as another striker or inside forward was most important imo.

Simon Dalzell
119 Posted 31/08/2022 at 19:59:48
Thanks Joe. That really is worrying. I thought we were sure to get another goal scorer on top of Maupay. Mind you I should no better by now.
Christy Ring
120 Posted 31/08/2022 at 20:05:55
Some of the comments, if Garner was that good why didn't Forest sign him?

He was one of the first players Cooper tried to buy, but was told he wasn't for sale. Ten Hag came in, not in his plans; Forest have signed 30 players since!

He can definitely do a job for us, was a revelation last season, and can take free kicks as well, which is a bonus.

Denis Richardson
122 Posted 31/08/2022 at 20:16:26
Can't say I know much about Garner but seems a positive move given the price. Have to say we do now seem to be collecting centre-backs and centre-midfielders…

Allan, Gomes, Onana, Davies, Doucouré, Iwobi, Geuye – just to name Seven?

Admittedly Lampard didn't sign most of them but we seem to be unable to get rid – not surprising, I guess, if they've not been good enough and are on big contracts. Also, if 5-2-3 is the go-to formation, how does that work with 7 centre-midfielders in the squad?

The injuries hopefully mean we're forced to play 4 at the back which will allow at least 3 centre-midfielders to play in the short term.

Still looking out for that fabled striker...

Soren Moyer
123 Posted 31/08/2022 at 20:20:18
Just get a striker, for fuck's sake!
Brian Murray
124 Posted 31/08/2022 at 20:24:05
Surely not going to unravel all the good work this window by not getting the most important component. All this approach play needs a finisher. I wouldn't trust Calvert-Lewin for a minute to even stay fit sadly.
Joe McMahon
125 Posted 31/08/2022 at 20:25:21
Soren, my thoughts exactly! We want and need goals.

As it stands, Haaland at Man City is going to score more goals this season than the entire Everton team. I think he has 7 already.

David West
126 Posted 31/08/2022 at 20:26:06
If we get Gana and Garner, Frank should be touting Tom Davis, Allan and Gomes to anyone who will have them.

I would drive Gomes myself to any club who wants him. I know them 3 are hanging on but we have cleared a few out... Sigurdsson, Delph, Gbamin, Dele, Tosun. If Gomes went, that's a forest of dead wood cleared in one window.

Kevin Jones
127 Posted 31/08/2022 at 20:30:17
Hope we don't end up on a Rocky Road with him, his wages are £200.00 a day plus expenses. Just hope he's not part of another Great Escape. Younger patrons might want to ask an older family member
Rob Halligan
128 Posted 31/08/2022 at 20:30:31
David # 126, according to El Bobble, it seems Gomes is quite happy where he is…….

Andre Gomes has attracted minor interest from Europe, but he & his agent have told Everton that he is happy with his current position at the club, despite Frank Lampard & Kevin Thelwell making it very clear that he is not part of their plans.

Soren Moyer
129 Posted 31/08/2022 at 20:34:00
Joe, It's a must!

If Lampard is hoping that Calvert-Lewinwill suddenly turn into a goal-machine when he is fit, we are doomed! He needs competition (forget Rondon). Maupay is not the answer!

Brian Murray
130 Posted 31/08/2022 at 20:34:23
We didn't really clear out the deadwood. We are probably still paying half the loan players' wages and Gomes will cling on to the bitter end, like Tosun, draining what they can off us. Fuckin leeches, the lot of them, no professional pride to play somewhere.
Andrew Ellams
131 Posted 31/08/2022 at 20:36:25
Brereton Diaz playing and scored tonight. Doesn't sound like a player on his way out.
Simon Dalzell
132 Posted 31/08/2022 at 20:38:34
Doesn't sound suited to Everton if he's scoring goals.
Paul Hewitt
133 Posted 31/08/2022 at 20:53:37
Rob@128. I'd be happy as well being paid £120k a week
Craig Walker
134 Posted 31/08/2022 at 20:57:08
Must admit that I know nothing about Garner. Is he any good and could he turn out to be a good signing do you think Blues?
Joe Hurst
136 Posted 31/08/2022 at 21:05:53
Is it only me thinking “he was good in The Rockford Files”
Craig Walker
137 Posted 31/08/2022 at 21:07:48
Was good in The Great Escaoe too, Joe, which might prove useful after last season.
Kieran Kinsella
138 Posted 31/08/2022 at 21:16:32

Disagree on him doing well. He should've listened to Donald Pleasance and left him behind. Don said he would be a hinderance. Then James could have given Gerry the run around for longer and perhaps had less troops available to kill Richard Attenborough.

Craig Walker
139 Posted 31/08/2022 at 21:26:31

Good performance from Garner though, even if the character he played made mistakes.

Peter Carpenter
140 Posted 31/08/2022 at 21:37:28
Definitely, Kieran. Should have dumped Don.
Stu Darlington
141 Posted 31/08/2022 at 21:39:52
Bill @107

Quite right, but that doesn't mean it wasn't a priority, just that the club was remiss in not making his replacement an urgent necessity.

What other player has got close to him in goals scored since he left?
Absolutely a priority in my view.

Paul Birmingham
142 Posted 31/08/2022 at 21:59:59
No complaints if this true, and strength in numbers in midfield, but I'm hoping that tomorrow Brereton Diaz is an Everton player, but it's been in context a busy window and has improved the outlook since the pre-season defeats in the USA.

Everton need a set of strikers who know where the goal is and who provide an end product for every game.

Derek Knox
143 Posted 31/08/2022 at 22:08:09
Joe @ 136,

How very dare you steal my thunder! See my post @21, got those jokes in first, my agent is furious and will be contacting you in due course! :-)

Joe McMahon
144 Posted 31/08/2022 at 22:10:44
Derek, the opening music was great, the car too.
Jerome Shields
145 Posted 31/08/2022 at 22:12:39
Phil Neville #73

I bow to your superior knowledge. I was wrong

Christy #120

I also think you are right.

Alan Johnson
146 Posted 31/08/2022 at 22:14:31
All looking good for midfield and defence. Surely there must be a striker coming in?

147 Posted 31/08/2022 at 22:43:05
Teeth bared at the weekend...

Bruno Ganz style

James Flynn
148 Posted 31/08/2022 at 22:44:22
According to Frank two weeks ago, Gomes and Allan are out injured.
Jack Convery
149 Posted 31/08/2022 at 22:48:09
Will he bring his mobile home and park it at Hall Road, Crosby, overlooking the sea?

What about Rocky will he be coming with him too?

Bill Gall
150 Posted 31/08/2022 at 22:55:23
The time in Liverpool is close to 11pm. Have we actually signed anyone today or is it all speculation?
Bill Watson
151 Posted 31/08/2022 at 23:09:21
Bill #151

Nope, zilch. I feel I'm wasting my remaining days checking the Everton website, approximately every hour!

It looks like it'll be tomorrow, now. I should know better as it's usually at the death on the final day.

Mal van Schaick
152 Posted 31/08/2022 at 23:25:17
The remnants of the crap who played for us last season are all out of the door bar a few.

I don't know enough about Garner, but in line with Lampards rebuild, he's young a young prospect who gives us options. Add our other targets before the deadline and we have done decent business.

Dupont Koo
153 Posted 01/09/2022 at 01:42:37
Tipping my head to Kevin Thelwell for negotiating a down payment (£8M, while some media outlets reported up to £9.5M) that is the going rate for Championship level players.

I have never seen Garner played before, so if he merely turns out to be a Championship level player, our downside is covered and he can easily (compared to the deadwoods in our team over the last 6 years) be sold to other teams (notwithstanding the 5-year contract).

As long as he is more dependable than Gibson and more committed and consistent than Schneiderlin, as well as is good enough for Frank not to play Davies, I'll be very happy.

(I trust he'll turn out better than Cleverley too!)

David Nicholls
154 Posted 01/09/2022 at 07:49:40
I agree that the inclusion of a buy-back clause is reassuring as it indicates that United rate him highly.

While I cannot claim to fully understand how these things work, I imagine the player himself would need to agree to a return. If he is loving life as a blue, he may not wish to re-join the Old Trafford circus…

David West
155 Posted 01/09/2022 at 11:50:39
Brian 130.

Agree about Gomes, just like Tosun, Delph and of course Rondon not going anywhere till his contract is finished. But even getting the deadwood out of the dressing room is a positive. If they not getting near team, it's just negativity draining the energy.

I would say not many left to go now, Gomes, Rondon, Davies … maybe Allan and Keane who probably will stay because of centre-back injuries. That's why I have respect for Dele Ali. He could've sat it out like Gomes, Tosun etc, but the lad wants to play.

These players have drained all the energy and desire from our sqaud for the last 4 or 5 years, breeding negativity and complacency. Sucking the desire from the team as they knew that they were getting the best wages they were ever going to get. Gomes has had 4 years on £100k per week it's £20M in wages for what? 1 goal 4 assists.

I've always thought player contracts should be incentivised. So say Year 1 you get £60k if you hit targets, Year 2 you get 70k, rising to the level they perform at.
I know that ship has sailed and we are competing with other clubs offering big contracts too.

Hopefully I can see a huge change in the players we have signed: younger, hungrier, points to prove, national teams they want to break into still with value to add to what we have paid.

I'm now excited to see the next 2 - 3 Windows with Thelwell doing the business, because, IMO, it's been a positive first one for him.

Justin Doone
156 Posted 01/09/2022 at 11:59:33
I've only seen Garner a few times admittedly but I just don't understand what others see in him.

He reminds me of a Winks or Gomes midfielder. Tries to play simple, nice tidy football but very one-dimensional.

Lacks pace, physicality, can't tackle and rarely scores.

I'd rather Dendoncker anyday.

Joe Hurst
157 Posted 01/09/2022 at 14:39:45
My apologies, master Knox (143)
I’d missed your mention of ‘James Garner’ (as I mentioned on my post, I thought no one else had mentioned the name similarity).
Even if it’s not directly, I’m hoping he can help inspire what we all want - which is of course a home win on Saturday against “that lot”.
David West
158 Posted 01/09/2022 at 16:16:52
Gomes in France.. making moves to ship our as well as in. long day and night ahead people
Frank Crewe
159 Posted 01/09/2022 at 17:41:05
@Justin 166
"Lacks pace, physicality, can't tackle and rarely scores."
Sounds like me. So why aren't I playing for Everton?
Justin Doone
160 Posted 01/09/2022 at 18:10:30
Frank @159 I'd ask your agent?

Bill Watson
161 Posted 01/09/2022 at 18:58:49

Daniel A Johnson
162 Posted 01/09/2022 at 23:12:54
Forest signed over 100 players this season and this kid despite being with them, on loan wasn't one of them?


Colin Glassar
163 Posted 01/09/2022 at 23:16:57
Because he didn’t want to stay with Forrest, Daniel. They tried everything to keep him.
Lester Yip
164 Posted 02/09/2022 at 06:22:47
I think someone points out that he was mentored by Carrick. So he probably not the kind of players that has high xGA must keep things ticking. Let's see.
Benjamin Dyke
165 Posted 02/09/2022 at 09:34:14
Amazing how many turn a relatively cheap purchase of a young up and coming local midfielder, who's captained at every team he's played in including England, who's had a whole season at 20 for a team that got promoted, into a negative!

Why Nottingham Forest retain glimmer of hope in James Garner transfer pursuit

Jeff Armstrong
166 Posted 02/09/2022 at 09:55:47
Justin at #156 or Lewis Warrington and save £15 million.

For a club who are skint, it's a baffling signing. Yes, sign him if we are hoovering up as much talent as we can with money no object, but that fee could've been added to the £20 million we were prepared to pay for Pedro to get us a better striker.

I know it's all instalments and length of contract etc but I'm talking headline numbers. Still he's here now and will get our full support.

James Fletcher
167 Posted 02/09/2022 at 10:27:46
A Forest fan mate of mine reckons Garner is brilliant and he's gutted they didn't get him... seems like a great piece of business.
Barry Jones
168 Posted 02/09/2022 at 15:15:16
Fabulous signing. Its a pity we didnt get another forward in, but all things considered I think we did well in the market.
Raymond Fox
169 Posted 06/09/2022 at 16:58:56
I just wonder how much playing time James Garner will get, we are well stocked with midfielders already.

They must I guess see something in him that we don't already possess, I hope so.
It's up to him to impress in training because I don't see him making the team otherwise.

Steve Shave
170 Posted 06/09/2022 at 17:26:33
Raymond @169,

Don't rule out us still getting shot of Allan, the Chinese and Saudi windows are still open. The Turkish and US ones might be as well? I think there is something fishy about Frank's reluctance to use him.

That being said, I think the mid-term plan is to blood Garner into the team gradually this season but giving him some minutes and seeing how he does. I think eventually a midfield three of him and Onana either side of Gueye is the plan.

Iwobi might take Gray's place and be allowed to drift more into central roles? I'm only hypothesising and probably know nothing about it but anyway that's where my head is at right now. Otherwise, why sign him? I certainly think he's a talent.

Jim Lloyd
171 Posted 06/09/2022 at 17:52:57
I won't be down-hearted if we keep Allan, I think he's a good player but who might be feeling the pace, if asked to play a full season, or even a full game.

However, we've got a long season ahead and Allan and Garner, give Frank more options, should we have any injuries or suspensions.

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