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Dominic Calvert-Lewin could finally make his long-awaited return to action this weekend

Everton are back at Goodison Park for an unusual Sunday evening kick-off against Manchester United as Frank Lampard’s improving team look to make it three wins on the spin.

The Blues are unbeaten in seven matches in all competitions and now boast the best defensive record in the Premier League; they come up against a United side that will be licking their wounds following a chastening 6-3 defeat to neighbours City last weekend.

Manager Erik Ten Hag will be hoping for a fierce reaction akin to a wounded animal but Lampard will no doubt be instructing his charges to prey on those vulnerabilities — both psychological and structural — in their opponents and go for the kill.

He has been boosted by the fact that Dominic Calvert-Lewin is in contention for a place in the squad after overcoming his most recent injury problem.

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Lampard confirmed in his press conference ahead of the game that the striker's match fitness will be assessed beforehand but that he will be in the squad as the Blues seek a third successive win in the Premier League.

Calvert-Lewin has missed the first few weeks of the 2022-23 season after injuring his knee in training just days before the season-opener against Chelsea in August and then experiencing tightness in his groin prior to the game against West Ham last month.

The decision was taken to withhold him from the squad that travelled to Southampton last Saturday as an extra precaution but it looks as though he could finally be involved on Sunday evening.

There was also good news surrounding Yerry Mina and Mason Holgate, both of whom could return to the squad for the trip to Tottenham next weekend. Both players resumed full training this week after recovering from their respective injuries.

With Calvert-Lewin unlikely to start, the only likely change to the starting XI from the one that lined up at St Mary’s would be the restoration of Anthony Gordon to the right flank.

The 21-year-old had a bout of illness last week that saw him named among the substitutes against the Saints but, if he is to come back in the team, it would be harsh on last weekend’s match-winner, Dwight McNeil. However, Lampard may feel that the speed in transition of Gordon, who won this fixture last season with a deflected goal, could again be a big difference-maker against what is a talented team.

Indeed, United are the only team to have beaten Arsenal this season and they also triumphed over Liverpool but despite picking up narrow wins at Southampton and Leicester, they have had their vulnerabilities exposed at times, not least at the Etihad Stadium last time out and at Brentford where they were trounced 4-0.

That mental fragility and propensity to melt down is something that Everton will be looking to exploit while being wary of an opponent boasting players like new signing Antony, who can score a goal from almost anywhere. Ten Hag will be without Aaron Wan-Bissaka, Harry Maguire and ex-Blues loanee Donny van de Beek and is expected to deploy Casimero for the first time. But at Goodison Park under the lights, Lampard will be hoping for a repeat of April when his charges beat United with a committed and determined display.

Kick-off: 7pm, Sunday 9 October 2022
Referee: David Coote
VAR: Andre Marriner
Last Time: Everton 1 - 0 Manchester United

Predicted Line-up: Pickford, Coleman, Coady, Tarkowski, Mykolenko, Gueye, Onana, Iwobi, Gordon, Gray, Maupay


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Will Mabon
1 Posted 07/10/2022 at 14:55:44
A functioning forward of quality is definitely the missing link. Will take some time to get back up to speed but a vital return. Maybe makes a sub appearance first?
Ajay Gopal
2 Posted 07/10/2022 at 15:08:11
I agree, Will, an appearance from the bench for a few minutes would be the right way to ease him back. I hope he has a sustained run to help move Everton up the table.
Andy Peers
3 Posted 07/10/2022 at 15:14:40
A good option. Personally I really like Maupay. His goal against West Ham you would never see from DCL. Also you probably not see many headed goals from Maupay.
Paul Kossoff
4 Posted 07/10/2022 at 15:50:49
Definitely something funny going on with Calvert-Lewin here.

So he's not had an injury for some weeks now, just him saying he felt a tightness in his groin, so that's enough to keep him completely out of the squad for weeks.

Maybe he should stop wearing those tight evening dresses and schoolgirl uniforms and wear something more conventional, say a suit or a pair of men's jeans.

Sadly I think the time to cash in on him has long gone and we are stuck with an average striker who doesn't want to play.

Tony Hill
5 Posted 07/10/2022 at 16:01:24
Excellent news. He could make a major difference to our season.
Tony Dunn
6 Posted 07/10/2022 at 16:07:59
I just knew it wouldn't be long before one of the old fuddy duddies commented on DCL's perceived lack of manliness.

It's 2022 . . . And you wonder why he may want to leave, when he gets this old 1950s nonsense from his own fans.

Good luck, DCL, hope you get to play and score soon. Fuck the begrudgers!

Geoff Lambert
7 Posted 07/10/2022 at 16:10:43
Let's see if he actually makes it this time, or if another injury crops up getting off the bus. Something is not right with Mr Calvert-Lewin!!!
Mike Keating
8 Posted 07/10/2022 at 16:24:46
Dave Abrahams
9 Posted 07/10/2022 at 16:33:40
Tony (6),

I agree, nice to hear some good and welcome news.

Rob Halligan
10 Posted 07/10/2022 at 16:41:14
Paul #5

You say maybe DCL “should stop wearing those tight evening dresses and schoolgirl uniforms and wear something more conventional, say a suit or a pair of men's jeans”

How do you know it's tight evening dresses and schoolgirl uniforms that's causing tightness in DCL's groins, unless of course…… well, we'll leave it there eh!!

Joe McMahon
11 Posted 07/10/2022 at 16:45:51
I do feel from the bench to begin with. We may have to use him wisely to avoid injuries as I can't see him getting his big London move, Arsenal are top and sensibly signed Jesus.
Mike Gaynes
12 Posted 07/10/2022 at 16:47:17
Hey, who needs him? We've got McNeil and Maupay.

Seriously, this is great news, and I'd love to see him come off the bench with a game-winner.

Too bad Maguire's injured. His absence hurts our chances.

Neil Copeland
13 Posted 07/10/2022 at 16:50:06
We are stronger with him than without that is for sure. Maupay has done well but we need options and either he or Calvert-Lewin is a far better bench alternative to Rondon.

Hopefully the extended break and rest he has had will see him come back stronger but hope he is not rushed into the starting 11. No more setbacks please.

Brian Harrison
14 Posted 07/10/2022 at 16:54:35
I thought it really strange for Lampard to say he is in the squad and will be assessed before the game, surely they already know now if he will be able to play any part in the game? When asked about Calvert-Lewin's injury Lampard said better. So hardly a ringing endorsement that everything is okay.

Lampard was more upbeat about James Garner ,saying the lad is fit and is in the squad and Lampard is excited to see him play in the team. Hopefully may get some game time on Sunday.

David Midgley
15 Posted 07/10/2022 at 17:04:42
If DCL signed for Virgin Atlantic he could wear what he likes.
Win, win for everyone.
Jay Harris
16 Posted 07/10/2022 at 17:09:01
I came to the same conclusion, Brian.

After listening to the press conference, I think we will see Garner sooner rather than later but whose place will he take?

Brian Hennessy
17 Posted 07/10/2022 at 17:18:18
Great news. Bring him on in the second half when we are 3-0 up.
Danny O’Neill
18 Posted 07/10/2022 at 17:32:58
Sat comfortable in the middle of league, even though the league position means little at this stage.

Having done so without the services of our main striker.

We have the wasp in the ear that is Maupay ready to swarm over any defender regardless of size.

This team and squad is taking shape. Get ready for it blues and start believing.

We're marching.

Tony Everan
19 Posted 07/10/2022 at 18:02:13
Excellent news, not just to have him back, the competition for places is hotting up. Anyone cruising will lose their place. Same goes for midfield with Garner chomping at the bit.

Also Frank says Mina and Holgate back in full training next week and maybe in contention for the next match.

Good news all round, we are looking like a strong squad. Put it this way, I’ve got no fear about playing Man U, we are as good if not better than their current incarnation. They’ve got some superstars but are not quite the team that we are.

Lee Courtliff
20 Posted 07/10/2022 at 18:18:20
I've got to say that I'm a little disappointed that Garner hasn't played from the bench yet, especially considering the number of chances already given to Doucs and Davies yet they were subbed on onstead. And they've both had injuries so they can't have been THAT much further along, fitness wise, than James. Hopefully we'll see him on Sunday with a point to prove against his old club.

As for DCL, I couldn't care less what he wears. He always comes across as a nice lad and barring that game against United in April, I've always thought he's given 100% for us.

We're a better team with him (even though I've been pleased with Maupay).

21 Posted 07/10/2022 at 19:13:20
This will be the best Everton team DCL has ever played for. If he gets a run of games he will score a lot of goals. McNeil might also profit from playing with a target man.
Ben King
22 Posted 07/10/2022 at 19:28:02
Paul #4

Honestly mate, you sound like a proper dinosaur.

Really pleased ….if this is true. As was noted by Brian…#14 it really didn’t sound like a confident ‘yes he’s fit as a fiddle and ready to go’. Let’s see

A fully fit & firing DCL is a handful and a goal threat. Wish our fans would support him. Especially after his goal v Palace

Some peeps appear to prefer a misfit like Strqualiski or the imperious Niasee rather than DCL who has even openly alluded to mental problems. Let’s support our boys eh?

Duncan McDine
23 Posted 07/10/2022 at 19:28:55
Tony (6) Good on you for saying it straight, rather than skirting around the issue.

Paul (4) The kind of places where Dom frequents have a strict ‘no denim’ policy, so jeans are out of the question.

Joking aside, I really hope DCL can get a run together and stay fit. He’s a big asset to our team and deserves our support.

Dale Rose
24 Posted 07/10/2022 at 19:56:01
Delighted he is back.
Paul Kossoff
25 Posted 07/10/2022 at 19:58:23
Duncan 23, Nice to see some blues on here still have a sense of humour, unlike the miserable old buggers who don't.

I as much as anyone want Calvert-Lewin to be all things great for us and win the World Cup for England. All I meant was he seems to be a bit reluctant to play, and he's obviously got other irons in the fire.

I don't give a flying fuck what he wears, tight or not. He has got nice legs though!😀

Peter Mills
26 Posted 07/10/2022 at 21:06:50
Dominic’s presence in our team will make a huge difference. He needs patience.
David West
27 Posted 07/10/2022 at 21:07:34
Ben 22, with you there mate.

Calvert-Lewin has had one season ruined with injuries; some want to write him off as finished or injury-prone. Don't they remember that immense diving header to save us?? Short memories some people.

The lad had just established himself in the England squad, second only to Harry Kane, before the injuries. Some, like Paul Kossoff, say he's reluctant to play but the lad has played through injuries, rushed back unfit, had mental health issues, yet is seen as some Mina type glass-legged cry-baby.
Unfair, IMO.

A fit Calvert-Lewin adds a dimension to our team that cannot be underestimated. I believe Frank and his staff know how good he can be and are trying to give him the best opportunity to impact the full remainder of the season.

Bring him on second half while Man Utd are tiring, and give them a headache. Let Maupay rough them up, Dom finish them off!!!


Lev Vellene
28 Posted 07/10/2022 at 21:53:21
DCL may roll around in a skirt on his free time for all I care. If he can forego protecting his most recent nail-polish for playing like we expect him to do, then even Michael K. might want to freely add another layer... :P

The world has changed, unfortunately, since most of us old fogies were young! Which was a long time ago for very many of us...

The future is in the hands of, of, well, bloody kids... I hope Coady and Tarkowski will gently slap them all into behaving like old-time adults in time... ;D

Ashley Roberts
29 Posted 07/10/2022 at 22:38:37
I for one am more than pleased to welcome him back. We sure have missed him. He brings another dimension to our game because I do not believe there is a better header of the ball in a striking position in the Premier League and when fit he jumps like a salmon.

He maybe not be the greatest on the deck but his attributes in the air make up for it. I am sure this is the reason we bought McNeil as he is known to be a good crosser of the ball.

I say let Calvert-Lewin do his talking on the pitch but to join the consensus let's take this gradually and have him come on from the bench to start.

Paul Birmingham
30 Posted 07/10/2022 at 22:53:29
Good news, and let's hope his luck with injuries has turned for the better.

Let's see if Frank brings him on later in the game on Sunday, but we shall see. Good to have his aerial threat available again to the Everton squad.

Christy Ring
31 Posted 07/10/2022 at 22:53:54
Have to say it's sad to to read a comment again about Calvert-Lewin's fashion sense, what's your problem?

Great to have him back. By the way, the Coleman stats from the Southampton game, shows the anti-ToffeeWeb Coleman fans you haven't a clue.

Paul Hewitt
32 Posted 07/10/2022 at 22:59:08
I agree, you can wear what you want.

Doesn't stop you looking like a fucking idiot.

Ian Linn
33 Posted 08/10/2022 at 02:23:24
Paul K: "He seems to be a bit reluctant to play" – did Frank Lampard tell you that 'cos Frank picks the team?

"and he's obviously got other irons in the fire" – so what are they then? I don't know what they are, did Dominic tell you himself?

You seem to know more than we do – whatever you know, I think we should be told.

Mark Andersson
34 Posted 08/10/2022 at 03:39:41
I hope he plays scores a goal pulls his shirt over his head to reveal a sexy blue bra...

The lad is a good pro... mental health affects anyone in all walks of life.

Kieran Kinsella
35 Posted 08/10/2022 at 03:47:40
I'll be honest, I'm not in the “Calvert-Lewin is a sick note and doesn't care” camp but I am in the “I'll believe it when I see it” camp.

He has basically been absent for 18 months. St Thomas the apostle after 3 years hanging out with Jesus couldn't believe he was back from the dead. I'm no saint and I haven't hung out with Calvert-Lewin for 5 minutes, much less 3 years, so forgive me for being skeptical.

I have this horrible feeling some niggly injury will strike. I do not want that to happen but, as a weather-beaten, once-bitten, twice-shy Evertonian, I can't muster any sense of optimism to think his problems are over.

Danny O’Neill
36 Posted 08/10/2022 at 06:44:53
I know your sentiment, Kieran.

I hope Dominic has been managed carefully to get him back to where he needs to be and can be.

There is a better management team around him now and there is at least some form of backup to take the pressure off what are still a young player's shoulders.

We saw what it meant to him at the end of last season. I don't think he's fallen out of love with the game. I just think he's had an unfortunate run. Let's hope he's back, fit and ready to contribute to this improving squad.

Starting with a diving header on Sunday evening.

@Rob, hopefully they can just deconflict the timings like they always do (or did) with the National. The only issue will be the need for extra support staff to answer questions from the Norway contingent. They'll be confused that there is a football match on in the City and it's not at Mordor. Also to stop them bricking the coach.

Neil Cremin
37 Posted 08/10/2022 at 08:10:05

The same TWebbers were also constantly including Iwobi in the Deadwood list. Following the religious theme, many now have had a Paulian conversion.

I hope Calvert-Lewin will be back to his best; my concern is that his slow return is more mental than physical. Hopefully he will come off the bench and tower over the Man Utd defence and head home the winner, Duncan style!

Dean Williams
38 Posted 08/10/2022 at 08:22:51
Seems like no one's allowed to have an opinion on here about Dom's fashion sense or his activities off the pitch. The ToffeeWeb bullies are out in force.
Eddie Dunn
39 Posted 08/10/2022 at 08:37:07

I'm sure Dominic wanted to get back playing asap. He could have nailed down a place in the World Cup squad, so to suggest he was reluctant to play is a bit off the mark.

It could be that perhaps he rushed back too soon last time?
I am just hoping we can get him "right" and we can benefit from his contribution.

Terry Farrell
40 Posted 08/10/2022 at 08:38:22
Spot on, Neil, we are way better with him than without him. Anyone who thinks that Dominic is feigning injury or doesn't want to play has no idea about football or players. He loves playing and scoring goals – it's evident.

If he wants to move on, then the only option is to put a run together, start scoring, and prove his injury crisis was unlucky and not the norm. Either way, he plays.

Great in the air, fast and hard as nails – come on, Dom!

Mark Murphy
41 Posted 08/10/2022 at 08:48:31
Christy – “anti-ToffeeWeb Coleman fans shows you haven't a clue.”

Sorry but are you saying Coleman fans who are anti-ToffeeWeb haven't a clue and Coleman was shite?

I'm a Coleman fan and thought he had a poor first half but decent second. I also think Patterson is the future.

But I'll never slag off Seamus as long as he breathes. Best Blue since Tiny Tim! UTFT

Ray Roche
42 Posted 08/10/2022 at 08:57:08
Mark, I think Christy was being critical of the World Class coaches that infest TW who are continually slagging Coleman off as ‘finished' or ‘useless'. The same World Class coaches who spend the afternoon sat in their pants scratching their balls as they type, one-fingered, their latest pearls of wisdom. Only a cruel twist of fate has prevented them from being sat at Pep's right elbow.

Coleman had a good game last week and showed that he's still got something left in the tank.

Ray Roche
43 Posted 08/10/2022 at 08:58:44
Sorry if that post contains some positive vibes. I really should have put a warning on it.
John Keating
44 Posted 08/10/2022 at 09:05:24
Great news that Calvert-Lewin back in contention

Unlike most comments, I would actually start him with Maupay up front. If he's fit, the more game time, the better; whenever he's knackered, bring him off and revert to the 4-3-3.

I'd also like to see Garner start; hopefully, he'll have a point to prove against his former employers.

Joe Digney
45 Posted 08/10/2022 at 09:05:33
Managed to grab 2 tickets together off the Everton resale site. First game in 6 years... safe to say I'm absolutely buzzing.

Last time I was home on holiday, we won every home match I managed to go to, so hopefully that's a good omen going into this one. 🤞

2-1 to the Blues, Onana and Gueye to bully their midfield while the Goodison atmosphere carries us to the 3 points.


Danny O’Neill
46 Posted 08/10/2022 at 09:09:33
No player will avoid criticism, just as much as any player will deserve praise.

No player walks on water. Apart from Kevin Sheedy and (for those older than me) Alan Ball.

Seamus Coleman had a decent and steady game last week. Yes, he made a few mistakes but so did a lot of players.

But Coleman didn't let us down and still has a lot to offer this squad providing we use him sparingly as back-up to the ever-improving Patterson. I wish we'd have done that with Allan, but that ship has sailed.

Seamus has given his all for this club and I have no doubt he will continue to do so until he can't run anymore. The supporters recognise that and it was telling that "60 grand, Seamus Coleman" was belted out on quite a few occasions at St Mary's last Saturday.

He is forever in our hearts. We are forever in his.

Danny O’Neill
47 Posted 08/10/2022 at 09:14:48
Go and enjoy, Joe.

Bring the points home.

Joe Digney
48 Posted 08/10/2022 at 09:21:05
Will do Danny! 👍🏻🍻
Mark Murphy
49 Posted 08/10/2022 at 09:24:08
Fingers crossed for a great win for you, Joe.

Best regards to Walt!

James Marshall
50 Posted 08/10/2022 at 09:24:17
Just to be completely clear on this, Calvert-Lewin never actually wore a skirt – they were culottes.

And on the same subject, he's a 25-year-old footballer and sometime model so obviously he's going to wear clothes that some people feel challenged by. Live and let live.

To quote Eddie Izzard when asked by a journalist why he wears women's clothes? His response: "These aren't women's clothes, they're my clothes."

James Marshall
51 Posted 08/10/2022 at 09:33:58
Also, players get injured, it's a physical game. I never understand why supporters lay into players who get injured, like they do it on purpose. It's such an odd way of thinking in my view.

Speaking from personal experience playing football, cycling a ton, and climbing a ton too – when you get injuries, they very often follow one another. Not being able to exercise and then taking it up again after injury almost always led to further small, niggly injuries. Even more so now I turn 50 next year!

I happened to watch a TV show about Alan Shearer last night and he talked about when he did his ACL and then kept picking up more injuries as he tried to return, and it made me think of Calvert-Lewin and how his situation is similar. Okay, he isn't going to score goals like Shearer but the injury issue is much the same.

It happens all the time – Calvert-Lewin is no special case in that regard. Support the kid, don't beat him up over it. He's an Everton player, after all.

Tony Abrahams
52 Posted 08/10/2022 at 09:41:06
Mark @41,

I thought the same about Coleman, who was very rusty during the first half against Southampton, but I thought he got so much better the longer the game went on.

Do stats show how many times a player takes a bad touch, which puts him on the back foot, instead of driving forward, Christy?

Anyway, the more positivity there is before a game, the worse we seem to play. I know this is just another contradiction from someone who wants a united fan base, but tomorrow is a massive test, and if Everton can come through it, then maybe it will be time to sit up and become more excited, and “united” – especially if we can beat these Mancs!

Dave Abrahams
53 Posted 08/10/2022 at 10:28:54
Neil (37),

I think if Iwobi had been an apostle of Jesus, after 2½ years even Jesus would have swerved him!.

Raymond Fox
54 Posted 08/10/2022 at 11:19:42
I don't think DCL will start the game, these injuries are bound to affect him mentaly above anything else.
He must know though, if he is to be picked for the world cup he needs to be playing and playing very well asap but another injury will mean he wont go. I know your saying sod the world cup but he will be very keen to go.

Utd should be well up for this game, we always seem to play teams who have had a large kick up the ass from the previous results.
Nevertheless I can see us getting something out of the game, whether its a win I'm not too sure.

Christopher Timmins
55 Posted 08/10/2022 at 12:01:59
The same eleven that started against Southampton with the possible exception of Gordon coming back in.

This team is starting to pick itself and, with a greater level of consistency in the choice of the first 11, performances will get better; those who are left out will have to work that bit harder and take whatever minutes they get to impress.

Calvert-Lewin to get his first minutes of the season and hopefully he opens his account with the match-winning goal.

Brian Murray
56 Posted 08/10/2022 at 12:14:07
As for Seamus, it's asking a lot for him to start all this month without us coming unstuck sooner or later. His character may get him over the line but I'd rather not find out. I'm sure Frank has alternatives if it gets a bit too much.

I see Man Utd's Anthony has been warned over Everton. Not sure if that means on the pitch or our crowd or both. Good to know people are getting wary of us. No cheap goals and we can have these tomorrow.

Steve Cotton
57 Posted 08/10/2022 at 12:29:31
Good to have him back, I seem to recall that 2 seasons back he got booked for jumping so high his feet were the same height as the defenders head...

Weve missed that I think...


Brian Cleveland
58 Posted 08/10/2022 at 13:31:23
Steve #57,

That was an England game if memory serves me right. It was an incredible leap. While the defender didn't jump, he certainly didn't duck either.

Would be good to see that salmon leap again.

Tony Hill
59 Posted 08/10/2022 at 13:41:55
The really cheering thing at the moment is that I feel we are going to achieve our aims as a team, even if we suffer the inevitable setbacks.

The people in charge of the playing side are ambitious and hard-headed. We're no longer drifting hopelessly and that makes it much easier to be patient and to have a sense of perspective.

Don't we all feel that this is the most promising time for the team for many years? Much work to be done but we can be confident that it will be done.

Jamie Crowley
60 Posted 08/10/2022 at 13:45:33
Lev @ 28 -

DCL may roll around in a skirt on his free time for all I care.

It's a kilt Lev, a kilt. Just a quick change of word and BANG! Masculinity restored for DCL.

Dominic is cut like a Greek god. He's a damn handsome bugger. If fashion is his thing, who freaking cares??? Kid looks to me like he was born for it.

He was also born to play footy, and we should be thrilled he's back and pray for his continued health.

Man Utd is a big game. We either seriously announce "we're back" by taking 3 points and nearing the Euro spots, against a team who will be incredibly motivated coming off their bare bottom spanking to their rivals, or we lose to that motivated team and take our place in the middle of the pack – that dark void of "meh".

Up the table contenders or middle of the pack average? Sunday will be a barometer of that question, in my opinion.

Robert Tressell
61 Posted 08/10/2022 at 13:50:32
Man Utd still have some v good players but our fully fit First XI compares OK.

Pickford or DeGea
Patterson or Dalot
Mykolenko or Malacia
Coady or Martinez
Tarkowski or Varane
Gueye or Casemiro
Onana or Eriksen
Iwobi or Fernandes
Gordon or Sancho
McNeil or Anthony
DCL or Rashford

Patterson's absence is a blow, of course, and Maupay might start ahead of DCL, but even so. We should be confident going into this game.

Jamie Crowley
62 Posted 08/10/2022 at 13:56:49
James @ 51 -

Yes, Calvert-Lewin is injured and has been, and we should be patient and not hold it against him.

Wait for it... BUT!

I completely understand the frustration. Calvert-Lewin hasn't gone down with a leg-breaker or some really obvious injury. It's been the little niggly things keeping him out of the lineup. And frankly it's been a fucking eternity. Yes, the diving header game wasn't too terribly long ago, but he was in and out of the lineup at the end of the relegation-threatening run last year.

Everyone's seen it – that dude who is seemingly always injured, and the injuries never really look too damn awful. You wonder is the fella crying off, or simply lacking toughness?

Why is this guy injured? Then think, "Toughen up man. I'd go if I was in your position! You found the courage to get out there end of last season, find that courage again, Sally."

I don't fault anyone for thinking the above, or getting frustrated with the situation. When the niggly injuries go on ad infinitum, it's not a cardinal sin to start to question.

All that being said, I think Calvert-Lewin clearly hasn't been fit, has been injured, and we need him back. Patience with his return would be proper. I can't wait to have him back frankly.

But I won't shit on anyone who's impatient and questions his lengthy layoff. It's a normal human reaction, if you ask me.

Kieran Kinsella
63 Posted 08/10/2022 at 14:04:58

I'd say our midfield is better than theirs and our defense more solid but they have a huge advantage in attacking resources. Irresistible force versus immovable object?

Phil Bickerstaff
64 Posted 08/10/2022 at 15:17:24
Drop Iwobi and give Garner a start. He's been training really well according to Frank, and Iwobi was shite against Southampton.
Christy Ring
65 Posted 08/10/2022 at 15:19:45
I was watching Soccer Saturday and looking forward to see what Tim Sherwood had to say about Everton, considering he never has a good word to say about us, and thinks we're going to be in another relegation scrap... Is he jealous of Frank, or what's his problem?

I couldn't believe after discussing Man Utd for 8 minutes, they never said one word about Everton, and moved on to discuss Steve Bruce. Let's be honest, unbelievable Jeff.

I also read Garth Crooks saying if Lampard doesn't get us in the Top 6, he'll be sacked, another pundit who thinks he's God's gift to football.

Hope to see Calvert-Lewin on the bench tomorrow and getting a run out, hopefully when we're winning comfortably, and also like to see Garner getting game time. I know some would like to see Garner in from the start, but who would we drop in midfield?

Colin Malone
66 Posted 08/10/2022 at 15:21:44
7pm Sunday night. Great for the neutral.
Kieran Kinsella
67 Posted 08/10/2022 at 16:12:36

Tim Sherwood, what a player he was. Prolific scorer (?) great tackler (?) sensational passer (?) incredible dribbler (?). Then he was hailed as Brain of Britain when he led Spurs to unparalleled success (?) and completely turned around Villa (?). Absolute legend.

Francis van Lierop
68 Posted 08/10/2022 at 16:23:19
Let's thrash them!
Although I'll be very pleased with any win.
Peter Mills
69 Posted 08/10/2022 at 16:35:41
Colin #66,

It's good for me. Hoping to get back from Italy to Bristol Airport and up the M5, M6, M62 and M57 in time for kick-off.

David Hallwood
71 Posted 08/10/2022 at 17:50:21
Speaking of old timers, this is where I miss the old Central League. It would allow Calvert-Lewin and Gbamin etc to play some proper football to build up match fitness.

Onto the game; and intriguing match-up with us having a better defence & midfield IMHO, whereas they've got better players that can do damage in the final 3rd. But I'll be disappointed if we don't get anything out of the game.

John Keating
72 Posted 08/10/2022 at 17:57:19

Regarding midfield, I'd like to see a complete change:

Coleman Tarkowski Coady Mykolenko
Gana Onana Garner
Maupay Calvert-Lewin

Any width with Maupay and Iwobi

Once Calvert-Lewin is knackered, revert to Gray and Gordon in 4-3-3.

Martin Mason
73 Posted 08/10/2022 at 18:12:58
Jamie @62,

It's because he's Championship level.

Tony Hill
74 Posted 08/10/2022 at 18:34:36
We need to be aware of their counter-attacking.

I would trust to our own pace on the counter.

Martial and Fernandes are bogeymen and we must hope that the gods are with us.

Colin Malone
75 Posted 08/10/2022 at 18:54:05
Peter #69.

Quiet Sunday night. All shops closed, buses every hour, most not running on a Sunday, trains on Sunday service, younger supporters have school on Monday. Traffic wardens, like flies around shite.

Both sets of supporters drinking from 12 noon onwards. Do BT and the FA give a fuck? No they don't.

Tony Hill
76 Posted 08/10/2022 at 19:12:22
Quite right, Colin@75, it's a disgrace. And yet we will all troop along. We have supped with the devil.
Andy Crooks
77 Posted 08/10/2022 at 19:14:02
Joe @45, hope you have a great day.

Thanks to the brilliant Abrahams family, I was at the Easter Sunday thrashing of Man Utd – one of the best days I have ever had!!

You do realise, Joe, that (no pressure) the outcome of this match depends on you! Bring us a win.

David West
78 Posted 08/10/2022 at 20:09:45
Robert @61,

Yes, put them on paper and we look comparable, what you can't put on paper is spirt, desire to play for each other, or the shirt.

In years gone by, if you listed our team against Man Utd's, you would say we'd be nowhere near them, but we haven't struggled, we've beat them even, as a team can be so much more than the sum of its parts.

That is what I'm seeing this season – a team is so much more than throwing big names together… ask Man Utd fans.

It won't be easy after they took a hiding last week, they will be up for it, but the good thing is we know our lads will be up for it. We don't have the same shirkers or missing-in-action mercenaries anymore.

We have some options now: Calvert-Lewin or Maupay. Gray, Gordon or McNeil. Garner or Doucouré if we need fresh legs.


Garth Crooks never had time for us if ever there was a pundit who loved the "Big 6", it's him absolute weapon that man.

As for Sherwood, are we really arsed what he says? Probably only watches the 4 minutes they give Everton on MotD.

I'd be more arsed if the pisshead old fella in my local thought we were going down — and he's still thinking Des Lynam is on Match of the Day!!!

It will taste sweeter when we prove them wrong!!

Duncan McDine
79 Posted 08/10/2022 at 20:10:52
Very surprised about the kick-off time. Usually any game involving Mancs vs Sousers would be an early kick-off to avoid it ‘kicking off'.

I remember I was at a game at Goodison (vs Man Utd) some time around 2000 ish when things went a bit mental outside… let's hope tomorrow stays friendly. I'd love it if we beat them! COYB.

Andy Meighan
80 Posted 08/10/2022 at 21:02:20
Tony Hill @59.

I couldn't have put it better myself. Absolutely spot on, yes you're right, there'll be setbacks, of course there will, but me personally, I haven't been this optimistic about a manager for years.

Well okay, Martinez's first season.

I've learned with age not to get carried away when we go on a run but I've got a real good feeling for Frank and his staff. And believe me when I tell you I am the eternal pessimist. 4 seasons, Frank, that's all I'm asking of you.

Joe Digney
81 Posted 08/10/2022 at 21:53:59
Thanks Andy! Hoping my omen can summon a similar day to the one you had, what a result that was… no pressure on me then. 😂
Paul Kernot
82 Posted 09/10/2022 at 00:53:34
Steve #57.

That must have been Maguire. After all, his head is up his arse so not difficult for Dom to jump that high.

Nicolas Piñon
83 Posted 09/10/2022 at 02:07:31
Won't be easy, but they played on Thursday and won't have much legs. Gordon's back and that's good. I trust these players and staff. And good to see Dom back as well. It will only make good on Maupay.
Bernie Quinn
84 Posted 09/10/2022 at 07:49:22
Danny at 46,

And for us real old Evertonians, there's Dave Hickson!

Everton to win 3-1 and fondly think of Christine doing her Irish Jig whilst I drink my Tizer – a 7am kick-off is a little early for Irish Whiskey!

In Frank I Trust.

Laurie Hartley
85 Posted 09/10/2022 at 08:16:08
Tough game coming up. My gut feeling is we have more fight in us than them so I am hoping for 3 points.

Up the Blues!!!

Danny O’Neill
86 Posted 09/10/2022 at 08:33:56
Just put your clock on UK time, Bernie, then it's fine!

The kick-off time doesn't take supporters into consideration. I see our fixture away to Newcastle is a midweek evening kick-off as well.


James Hughes
87 Posted 09/10/2022 at 09:11:51
I think we will get the 3 points tonight as we are more of a team now. We beat them last season with a worse squad. For me, it's 3-1 with a goal from Iwobi as well.

Good luck to all those travelling today, I feel for the West Country Blues, they won't get home until 3:00 am at best. As we know, the TV people don't give a fuck about fans.

Let's start the day with England beating the convicts in T20!


Geoff Lambert
88 Posted 09/10/2022 at 10:35:57
Not as confident as most on here, I have got that "been here many times before" feeling.

A win could take us top 7 and above Utd and the RS but when that looks possible it usually goes tits up. Just for once, let's get it done. COYMB.

Danny Baily
89 Posted 09/10/2022 at 10:45:25
A very important game. A loss and, looking at the fixtures, we'll be in or around the bottom three in November. A win and we'll be firmly mid-table.

Whatever the reality of our situation, the outside perception of our season hinges on tonight.

Barry Rathbone
90 Posted 09/10/2022 at 10:56:18
Geoff @88,

Similar feelings but I guess that's down to mostly disappointment having supported for over 60 years. Reached the stage of not expecting a win in any big game during the Moyes era and, bar one season since his departure, it's remained that way.

But fingers crossed…

Christine Foster
91 Posted 09/10/2022 at 11:21:43

It's been a hectic week up here. The highlight was an Irish Comedy Club night where a good Irish comedian started slagging off scousers. He was doing okay till that point, made it worse with a few off-cuff comments about football... about supporting the other lot.

So I heckled him, asked him if he had ever been to Mordor?

"No," he replied, "but I got a tattoo."

So I suggested to him that it was on his backside.. so he asked me if I had even been to Liverpool? Ahhh... fatal mistake. "Born there," I replied, "have you ever been to Ireland?"

"My parents are proud Irish' he said.

"Ahhh, so you're a fake Irishman and a fake RS supporter too!"

He was getting riled at this point... he then retorted, "so what about you, you're no better than me!"

"But the difference is, I'm an Evertonian and you wouldn't exist without us!"

Post performance he was still peeved, trying to knock me by repudiation my own Irish background. So, I asked the band to play a jig... and I smiled.

After I sat down, he came over, gave me a glass of Guinness and said "I hope you beat those Mancs on Sunday!' And his parting words, "Great jig, by the way!"

Steve Shave
92 Posted 09/10/2022 at 11:35:55
I'm feeling confident coming into this game. We are solid at the back, the midfield are looking strong, we need Gordon to step up, and hopefully Calvert-Lewin's return will keep Maupay on his toes and wanting to make an impression.

I am wary however of a Man Utd backlash from last week. Seamus, Tarkowski and Coady are all old heads and may have a lot to do to keep Rashford and Anthony quiet.

I am watching it in the pub tonight with two Man Utd friends, I'd settle for a draw but genuinely feel this is very winnable. I think the crowd will whip the boys up and we will edge a nervy game 2-1. COYB.

Liam Heffernan
93 Posted 09/10/2022 at 11:48:58
Christine (@91),

What you had to listen to your in the Irish pub is, unfortunately, what I have to listen to every day regarding the rs, here in Ireland. But I just don my blue face on and put them in their place and leave them red-faced. COYB.

Rick Tarleton
94 Posted 09/10/2022 at 12:04:18
Hoping Calvert-Lewin is at last fit and can give us some minutes on the pitch without breaking down.

United are rather like Everton in the sense that they lack consistency, destroyed last week by Man City (Who would not have been by that first-half display?), yet were excellent against Liverpool. I hope

Everton can get an early breakthrough and dent their confidence quickly.

Dave Cashen
95 Posted 09/10/2022 at 13:23:13
Ah now stop it, Christy.

You've been putting some good stuff up here recently. Especially about Seamus, but you're now telling us you listen to what Crooks and Sherwood have to say?

I'm just going to assume you've been on the lash.

Joe @48.

I've got complete confidence in you.

Christine Foster
96 Posted 09/10/2022 at 13:28:41
Will be interesting to see who comes out of the blocks faster...

If Calvert-Lewin starts, I think Everton will be full on from the off. If Maupay, then I think it will be sit back and hit them on the break.

If Calvert-Lewin is fit, play him; if not sure, don't play him at all.

Tom Bowers
97 Posted 09/10/2022 at 14:11:09
We have to understand that most clubs have a rotation system that changes depending on the opposition.

Calvert-Lewin in form is a big asset although he, like some players, does have limitations. Nobody is perfect.

He will probably come off the bench today which makes sense but hopefully not a desperate move at the time.

We are still a work in progress with a lot to do and hopefully that will continue on the upward slope today.

Alan McGuffog
98 Posted 09/10/2022 at 14:27:17
Danny 89.

Yes, there is, let's face it, a realistic chance of defeat tonight.

The most important thing is how we react to that outcome in the weeks to come. Have we turned the corner? By that I mean would we come out fighting in the next game or go into our shells as we have done so often before.

So, for me, not so much bothered about the result as much as our ability to bounce back.

Alan McGuffog
99 Posted 09/10/2022 at 14:27:18
Danny @89.

Yes, there is, let's face it, a realistic chance of defeat tonight. The most important thing is how we react to that outcome in the weeks to come. Have we turned the corner?

By that I mean would we come out fighting in the next game or go into our shells as we have done so often before? So, for me, not so much bothered about the result as much as our ability to bounce back.

Danny O’Neill
100 Posted 09/10/2022 at 14:44:50
Sherwood and Crooks.

Mark and avoid, delete, move on, Christy. I think those two are only surpassed by Chris Sutton.

What's this talk of defeat? The ball hasn't been kicked yet and the game will last 90-plus minutes.

Brian Murray
101 Posted 09/10/2022 at 14:49:51
Said on a different thread let’s hope we are totally condescended to as usual and our best players can’t possibly stay here after a fine win. Bollox to em.
Tony Abrahams
102 Posted 09/10/2022 at 15:46:03
Good story, Christine. Keep staying one step ahead, girl!
Joe Digney
103 Posted 09/10/2022 at 16:14:40
Couple more pints and I’ll share that confidence with you Dave 👍🏻🍻.
Robert Williams
104 Posted 09/10/2022 at 17:24:24
A M 98 & 99 You can say that again mate.
Pete Clarke
105 Posted 09/10/2022 at 17:29:32
DCL is a professional football player and if he’s playing well for us then he will get the plaudits and nobody will give a shit about his off field lifestyle. Same with any other player really although adversely if they are not playing well then they get stick and they are also open to cynicism.
This goes out the window with Seamus Coleman though because I cannot bring myself to criticize him given how he has put his body on the line for us over the years.
I think the Utd game is a massive test for our new look team. They may have got smashed by City but they can move the ball around at pace so we will need to be right up and alert for this game.
If DCL is fit then id like to see him start to give them something to think about at the back. Gordon also hopefully fit to get some crosses in and a big game for Gana and Iwobi to break up their play and get it forward.
Hoping for battling 1 nil win to us.
Enjoy the game Joe and let the luck you bring continue.
Si Cooper
106 Posted 09/10/2022 at 18:14:44
First game in a big series of games for us. Hope the lads are seeing each as an opportunity to really test their mettle.
Hit them early, hit hard and keep on hitting them for 90 plus minutes. UTFT!
Si Cooper
107 Posted 09/10/2022 at 18:15:47
First game in a big series of games for us. Hope the lads are seeing each as an opportunity to really test their mettle.
Hit them early, hit hard and keep on hitting them for 90 plus minutes. UTFT!

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