Dyche sees ‘no evidence’ to suggest Ndiaye should be in No 10 role

With the setup Dyche plays, there are 4 defenders and 2 defensive midfielders. 6 players should be enough. We'd be better off allowing our attacking players to attack.

With our current lineup, he is best used as an outman in our half and cutting into the No 10 space from the wing.

I actually believe, although limited we have a few decent players in the squad, but he refuses to either play them together, or play them in their best positions. The sooner this takeover is complete, the better.

Apologies to any Neanderthals who may have been offended by this post!

Ndiaye works very hard off the ball, so the idea that he can't press high up the pitch and defend like McNeil is ridiculous.

Yeah, sure, Sean. If you had bothered to check yourself you would see he plays international football successfully as a Number 10 and played there previously.

McNeil can throw crosses in from the left wing which is his strength not running across the pitch with the ball in midfield.

I appreciate what you did for the last 2 years but now you are taking the squad backwards not forwards.

You are the weakest link — bye.

Because you have so many clear deficiencies and that I would trust more than a few on here to pick the team and set up rather than you, even though they have not been out there 'on the grass'.

His tone here and in Jay's post for someone who has had a poor season so far borders on unforgivable. 'Evidence', oh special one? Go back to Ndiaye's interviews around the time he joined us and his reflections on his dismal time on the French coast because he was played out wide where he was unhappy because No 10 was his preferred position.

What an arrogant knob this limited Dyche is. Don't tell me what to do. I'm the gaffer right, and I know what to do, I've seen Kes.

I wonder if the players all truly feel like Billy Caspers.

I could fucking scream in fucking pain that we are the club of Dave Thomas (he started in Burnley, right), Kevin Sheedy, and Royle the Lionhearted, and listen to the latest stream of shite out of gravel-gob's curry stained lips/mouth - let's have no veggie side-plates boys, more poppadoms love.

I know that we have stayed up in deeply troubled times. I'm grateful. But that long painful winless stream from mid-December 2023 on was far longer than the April recovery.

In other words, the hard-boiled eggs with the North Wharf Road Pyongyang patriots put us in the very position from which Pachycephalosauria-Dyche gets medals and bonuses for 'saving' us from.

Dyche saved us from Dyche,

Kes is a truly great British film, btw.

We also today have a lower unemployment rate and higher business rating than nearly every other northern city, but sit back and wait for the December 'feed the scousers. ' in a high-intelligence and contemporary awareness mix with 'Sign on. '

When all you are concerned about is how well your most creative player defends, you know attacking play and goals are of no importance…

Dyche loves a relegation battle, even when his squad should be nowhere near one…

Thank god he wasn't manager when Rooney came through… he'd've had him playing right back for a few seasons to get an ‘education'.

Dyche saved us from Dyche

Spot on, love this

In my opinion, you have held back players this season, for whatever reason, and shackled them. This has been painfully obvious in the recent Southampton and West Ham games. Six points were there for the taking but you're stubbornness and rigid so-called Plan A meant we got 2 points, which would have been one point if not for a great save by Pickford.

Put some guile and forward thinking into the team's tactics or is it, you are just not capable or do not have the imagination to do so?

Play this team against Brentford — I dare you:

Pickford;
Dixon, Tarkowski, Branthwaite, Mykolenko;
Gueye, Mangala;
Lindstrøm, Ndiaye, McNeil;
Calvert-Lewin

Remember, Mr Dyche, Brentford have done sod all on the road, so far this season: P5 L5. That's a clue as to how you should approach the game.

“Everybody kept saying to me “No Sean, no, you're absolutely crazy son. You can't be bringing along a Betamax version of Revenge of the Nerds to a 4K French New Wave night”.

Well. I'll tell you now, that's exactly what I did, because what people fail to understand is that ‘films is films' and it doesn't matter if people come to see something Cahiers du Cinema creamed their keks over or not, they'll still get a kick out of a group of speccy 36-year-old fraternity kids sniggering at some fannies.

“There's no innate reason people who like the French stuff like Chabrol, Francois Truffle and Allo Allo can't adapt, broaden their horizons and learn to like better films in the right language. It just takes patience.

You can't just go ‘BANG' and throw them straight into ‘The Beastmaster', you know what I mean? Some guy in a loincloth controlling a panther, a pigeon and two Neil Maupays with just the power of his mind? WHAT?? Think how mad that would be when you're more used to spending two hours watching someone sat in a cafe stirring coffee and then the climax is them paying the bill.

“They need to be eased in at first with something they're more familiar with… like fannies. That's why Revenge of the Nerds would've gone down a storm if only the tape would have squeezed into that stupid slim slot designed for discs. What's that about?

“You only have to look at Woany. He literally wet himself at that bit where that 50-year-old lad who looks like the love child of Barry Horne and Billy the Fish said “We got bush, we got bush”. Howling he was… and Woany's what I like to call a proper cinephile. Invasion USA, Action Jackson, Buster with Phil Collins, he's seen them all.”

If he was here when Rooney was coming through the ranks, he would never have started him as he doesn't play 'kids' and we would have lost another great talent before he ever donned a blue jersey.

Starting him in the middle reduces our pace in wide areas and allows the opposition to crowd out the Number 10. That said, it might be worth experimenting, but not tomorrow.

We had nothing but we went everywhere, and I genuinely don't believe many other cities, would have survived such an onslaught from their own government.

Keep cash in society because nobody knows what is around the corner. I'm just praying there are better days ahead for Everton, because god knows we need them. 🤞

But you're right, definitely 6 points we should have got, or at least 4, if Dyche had been a bit more adventurous.

And I am glad to see on here this morning that I am not alone. What foolish intransigence!

A clever Number 10 will regain possession quite often by taking up good positions and nicking the ball off his opponent on the blind side, but I suppose if you play Ndiaye inside, then you are taking away his pace out wide.

The lack of pace on both our flanks, both defensively and offensively, is both criminal and absolutely soul-destroying. After nearly a month without a game at Goodison, I'm not even sure that I want to go tomorrow. I know I will still attend but just having feelings like this, isn't normal.

I guess Dyche can't just come out and say this though.

It does not matter if your offensive game suffers, Calvert-Lewin for instance is the perfect example, defending and ensuring he is always behind the ball when the opposition have it.

It is the duty of each player to form a tight defensive unit in our final third of the pitch. Individual forays leaves holes and will not be tolerated.

I can almost hear him say every word in his team talk. Fuckwit.

Our lad might be up to the job but Dyche will never try him there.

Ndiaye mainly played at No 10 and / or second striker in his 77 games for Sheffield United. No evidence indeed.

As for “Dwight McNeil doing very well on the defensive side”, Dwight has ranked 12th last season for losing possession. He is 4th among outfield players for losing possession this season and this has a disproportionate impact when he plays No 10.

As soon as you start to sound stubborn and illogical to fans, support drains away really quickly.

I'm sure we should have a moaning contest on here: who could get the most moans in one post wins.

This football thing is simple!!

Remember, it is only your view that they are moans but they are also valid opinions unless you can show them not to be. Surely the whole point of this site is that people raise opinions?

Can you please give examples of "moaning" rather than just making unsubstantiated sweeping statements.

If he could have got Messi on a free, he definitely wouldn't sign him, because he can't defend.

Mate, that is because he is and how you can argue otherwise is beyond me.

The football on display is awful so could you show me, if possible, where he is positive?

The big sticks with which to beat Dyche are once again left alone while people pick up the ones made of balsa wood and pedantry and furiously batter away.

I'd Love somebody to come on and name a Number 10 playing today who doesn't have defensive duties.

Dyche would leave Messi on the bench citing "lack of Premier League experience".

It does get a bit much though when the same points are made over and over again each day.

I appreciate he had difficult circumstances the previous couple of seasons but good managers show progress, not stagnation, and this season we are well off the form of last season.

Oh, and your statement that: "Sean Dyche has the worst win rate of any Everton manager" is factually incorrect. He's right down there, but there are about half a dozen with a worse win rate.

Lampard
Benitez
Kendall Mk 3
Smith
Walker

All these had worse win ratios.

Dyche has had key pieces taken away without replacement. Only Ndiaye has played consistently of the new ones. There hasn't been enough time for them to gel as a unit.

Also, other teams have strengthened their squads. I am sure that didn't get past you.

Like Branthwaite. Hopefully, we get to see them both tomorrow.

I think we get there by February but Dyche won't be in a hurry to introduce drastic changes. He has likely figured out that his time is up and will just get the job done.

Lots of players come in and make an impact without it. Not just the big names like Haaland etc. Look at the players Brighton have brought through, someone like Kudus at West Ham. It's an easy cop-out by the manager to justify decisions.

If you look at most of the players in our squad with significant Premier League experience (Pickford, Tarkowski, McNeil, Calvert-Lewin, Keane), they have experience, but mostly of losing and playing near the bottom in relegation scraps.

In fact, it's probably only Ashley Young who has anywhere near an overall winning percentage in his Premier League games. (I haven't done the maths so hold my hands up if I'm wrong.)

Does lots of experience getting beat trump ability and experience? elsewhere?

Sorry mate, you are entitled to that view. I had a bad morning.

I would kill to be able to go back to the Friday morning before the Watford final Bernie, setting off with the lads in the car from Crosby for a night of piracy in The Punch and Judy at Covent Garden, the Sussex, and the Cambridge Arms. Seemed like Bronski Beat's Smalltown Boy and Jump by Van Halen were on the radio all the time in my memory.

I was at York Uni 1984-87 (not hard to see why those years are special for me) where, coming from Liverpool, I was quite exotic for posh southerners and my first class honours degree with distinction helped some of them to grasp that scousers are actually not like their stereotypes.

Although I got plenty of flack for heading off to Selby to picket outside the mine there (then I was fucking little Hatton).

I lived it, they lived it. Terrifying, funny, excruciating and heartbreaking. It made me cry tears of anger, heartbreak... but above all, defiance.

I stopped in a local cafe by the bridge for a cuppa and a bit of cake, the old dear who served me just said, "Put your money away, you're a scouser and you stood next to us (on the picket), we'll not forget that."

So thanks for the free cuppa, Paul..

It's not mine, it pains me to watch it, it angers me that we have to because of the years of lost opportunities, of chances, money men and numpties.

That's not Dyche's fault and while his style of football just about kept us alive, it did not move us forward, indeed the sale of what little assets we had has left us with less individual quality. But this is a season of hope and expectation, relegation battles behind us.

Alas it should have been but for the puzzling, frustrating and annoying decision-making that has seen us play so well and so badly at times, when his set-up, decision-making and digs at fans have been blithely glossed over because of the 'credit in the bank'.If there ever was such an amount, it's surely long gone.

I fear December because we could end up starting the New Year with one of our lowest-ever points tallies having failed to kill off games or frankly even be bothered to attack. Like a credit card, it ends up costing you far more in the end; the sooner you get rid of it, the better off you are.

I said on another thread Dyche should go asap, be replaced till the end of the season by a manager who is better tactically, who can get more out of what we have. I haven't changed my mind.

I like McNeil at the #10 spot. He's far and away our best passer -- joint 4th in the league for creating big chances with 8, which is as many as the rest of the team combined. And his lack of pace, a huge disadvantage out wide, isn't nearly such an issue in the middle.

Ndiaye could no doubt play the position, but I love seeing his speed and skills on the wing, and he has proven he can score cutting in on his right foot.

Dyche wants a low-block defensive system first. His only positive move is inverted wingers to add to the attacking options. That is only when Everton are allowed more into the game.

With the weaknesses in application of zonal marking and defenders being too deep, this is not very often and instructions from the sidelines chose the negative option every time.

I've been prattling on about this on these pages since the Bournemouth game. Ndiaye ran amok that day and that performance was one of the best I've seen at Goodison for many a long day.

So what does our guru do? Shoves him out on the wing where he is less of a threat. Magnificent work, Sean, absolute genius!!

Look closely at the lad's body language tomorrow; it will cry out "For fuck's sake, I'm wasted out here, move me inside where I can affect the game!!!"

Will big Sean do that? Answers on a postcard, please.

At Sheffield, he primarily played outright striker or 2nd striker. 10 times at the #10 spot.

At Marseille, most upfront or on the wing. An appearance or two at #10.

So, who knows, Ndiaye might be perfect in the #10 role for us. So far in the pros, his managers have used his attacking skills elsewhere.

Stats for Iliman Ndiaye, Season 22-23

He did us a favour keeping us up a couple of years ago but this season he has served up some horrible shit so it's getting time he went somewhere else.

Roll on The Friedkin Group.

No, it's just one reason in a long list why he needs to go.