Far from being a season of welcome mid-table mediocrity in which Evertonians could take in Goodison Park in her final campaign before moving to pastures new on the banks of the royal blue Mersey, 2024-25 has been a miserable slog to amass a paltry 10 points.

The Blues sit just three points above the drop zone and there is a nervousness among the fans that, if Sean Dyche and his team don’t take full advantage of two relatively favourable home games against Brentford and Wolves in the next 11 days, the Club could find itself plunged back into a relegation scrap by the end of the year given that December features games against each of the current top four teams in the Premier League.

If there has been one bright spot amid the gloom, it has been the silky skills and invention of Iliman Ndiaye, the Toffees’ £17m summer signing from Marseille. The Grand Old Lady has played host to some of the most gifted stars to ever grace the game but it’s been a long time since Everton supporters had a player capable of getting them off their seats when he has the ball at his feet.

Ndiaye has that wonderful quality but, after making an explosive start, the Senegalese’s impact on matches has waned in recent weeks. Part of that is down to the extra attention being paid to him by opposition managers — when Fulham visited Merseyside last month, for example, Marco Silva made sure to double- and sometimes triple-up on Ndiaye, suffocating his effectiveness — but a lot of it is down to what is all too often a one-dimensional approach under Dyche, a reliance on long balls and launched diagonals, and Everton’s inability to consistently and effectively move the ball through the lines to open up the play.

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As such, Ndiaye, without question Everton’s best forward player, is either routinely isolated on the left flank or pinned to it by opponents, and it has led to increasing calls for Dyche to move him inside to a central striking or No 10 position he occupied so effectively at Sheffield United. (That argument is seemingly strengthened by the belief in France that Ndiaye struggled to make his mark at Marseille because he was being played out of position on the wing.)

Dyche was asked about Ndiaye’s best position before this weekend’s clash with Brentford, first by BBC Merseyside’s Giulia Bould in the open media session at Finch Farm, and then by the print journalists, and he insisted that the 24-year-old is not ready for a role that the Gaffer says has changed considerably.

“In the Premier League, playing as a No 10 is a very defensive-minded role, now. It wasn't 10 years ago; it was almost like, ‘we will play a No 10 and they will just wait for us to do the job’. Speak to all managers now, they will say a No 10 is not just standing there.

“A No 10 is getting into the passing lanes, breaking up the play, working off the bits like when the centre-half heads it, being alive, working in transition, driving in the box.

“It is coming out the box, getting between the two centre midfield players and getting the ball, linking the play. There's a lot going on with a modern No 10. I think that's his learning curve. It's not just a case of just throwing him in as a Number 10. It is not as easy as that. I wish it was.”

The issue here, though, is that Ndiaye has shown himself to have all of those qualities already and, in many ways, looks far more suited to the role from a defensive standpoint than Dwight McNeil, who has very much been thrown in as a No 10 this season, with mixed results — some excellent in terms of chance creation and goals; others not so much in terms of the gaping holes that open up in Dyche’s midfield. (See Alex Iwobi’s goal for Fulham at Goodison Park for reference!)

Ndiaye’s defensive work up and down the left is tireless — Dyche admits that he has a “great attitude” and he “works hard” — and it’s notable that Everton have conceded important goals and dropped vital points late in matches after he has left the field. He leads the team in interceptions (13 to McNeil’s 5) and has won the fourth-most tackles (20 to McNeil’s 8), metrics that would seem to indicate he could handle the defensive responsibilities that Dyche ascribes to a No 10 quite handily.

If the Blues were winning games or simply picking up enough points to stay clear of the dogfight at the bottom, this would be a redundant argument. Unfortunately, the reverse is true and there is a strong argument that Iliman Ndiaye should be central to everything the team does going forward. Instead, he is too often a peripheral figure, drifting in and out of games, his ability to beat a man, shimmy past defenders, create openings and score goals frustratingly restricted.

At the same time, Everton aren’t delivering as many crosses as last season with their chief line of supply, McNeil, operating in the more central role. He has still delivered almost double the number of centres than the next team-mate but, with Ndiaye averaging just one cross a game from the left flank, it’s no wonder that the team, one so reliant on scoring from set-pieces (many of which come from deflected or blocked crosses), is battling not only to score goals but simply create enough chances to do so.

At the very least, it would serve Dyche well to begin by rotating the two players in and out of the role behind the centre-forward more during matches, if only to keep opposition defences guessing and, perhaps, quell the discontented murmurings from a restless fanbase and the journalists taking those concerns to his press conferences!


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Mike Gaynes
1 Posted 23/11/2024 at 01:10:23
As I mentioned on the other thread, this was a dumb statement by Dyche because it boxes him in from eventually playing Ndiaye at the #10.

But I happen to like McNeil in that position. He's one of the top players in the Premier League at creating chances, in a team that creates damn few of them -- in fact, Dwight is credited with 8 Big Chances Created, exactly half Everton's total -- and that is a #10's biggest responsibility. I would suggest that his defensive deficiencies in that area are because he's new to marking a zone rather than a man, because, out on the flank, he is a tigerish defender. As is Ndiaye.

As James Flynn pointed out on the other thread -- and with all due respect to Pete Mills and his Blades sons-in-law -- Ndiaye at Sheffield United is listed on Transfermarkt as playing much more often at centre-forward or second striker than attacking midfielder (#10) and producing significantly more goals and assists from those more advanced positions.

I believe Dyche is probably playing Ndiaye wide simply because of our absolute absence of pace in the side and our need for speed out there. Personally, I'd love to see him go to an old-fashioned 4-4-2 with Ndiaye playing just off Calvert-Lewin or Beto -- he could do a lot with those knockdowns.

But as long as Dyche sticks with 4-2-3-1, I slightly prefer McNeil to Ndiaye in that central role.

Lyndon Lloyd
2 Posted 23/11/2024 at 04:04:16
Mike, I like McNeil in the role as well for the reasons you state, but only when it works, which I don't think it has for the past few games.

I'd like Dyche to make proactive moves aimed at getting Ndiaye consistently involved and I think having some fluidity that allows for McNeil and Ndiaye to rotate during the 90 minutes would help.

We're probably getting hung up on the strict notion of a "No 10" here when we're (well I am, anyway) probably thinking more along the lines of whoever plays off the centre-forward as you describe at the end there.

But if the conversation is about a more traditional, playmaking No 10 (which Dyche contends no longer exists in the Premier League) then I think Ndiaye has what it takes.

Let's see what happens against Brentford. Hopefully it'll be an open game for us going forward.

Danny O'Neill
3 Posted 23/11/2024 at 05:19:44
Good points, Mike and Lyndon.

If we're playing with three behind the striker with two behind them protecting the back four, there is no reason they can't rotate.

Be unpredictable and not so rigid.

Lior Losinsky
4 Posted 23/11/2024 at 05:52:37
Our manager talks with the tactical authority of a top-half-of-the-league manager – while showing consistent results of a bottom-half manager. You've got to commend his blind confidence in himself.

The issue we have with Dyche right now is that, without a contract extension in sight, and new owners coming in who will either replace him before January or in the new season, he's only managing for himself and his reputation, and not the team anymore.

You can see it from the change in tone of his press conferences and his attitude this season.

Every single tactical approach, whether it's Ndiaye at No 10 or out wide, or which striker is best etc, is all about his short-term motivations to secure his reputation and next job.

Our club's situation has created this difficult situation, where we can't really make any changes until the ownership changes, so as fans we are stuck with sharing logical tactical ideas that Dyche has no intention of looking into.

We will just have to be patient until the new owners come in and hope he hasn't dragged the club into a difficult situation before then.

Neil Gribbin
5 Posted 23/11/2024 at 06:00:23
The problem being, Danny, that is Dyche.

Predictable and rigid.

Paul Birmingham
6 Posted 23/11/2024 at 06:26:52
Seems to me Sean Dyche sticks to his tried and trusted and his proven favourites, regardless.

Loyalty is a good trait in the context of life but, in football, agility and scope to adapt and change is always needed throughout the 96 minutes of play.

Based on the few goals scored this seasom, Ndiaye is easily the most natural and agile skilful player in the team who can finish well and create chances.

But I think Sean Dyche is loath to change and won't gamble even for half a game as he's sticking to tried and trusted with the hope of bringing Calvert-Lewin into play. On his day, with the right service and forward support, Calvert-Lewin is brilliant. But how often does this happen in a season? Carlo days…

For me Jesper Lindstrøm is also more suited to a central attacking role as well: quick feet and an eye for a pass. But Calvert-Lewin is not getting good service from the wings this season.

It would be a good reference to see the stats on corners and crosses from both wings and how many have actually found an Everton player in the box, how many have been converted to a goal, and how many have been ineffective.

There I believe lies an issue and Everton have generally been sussed this season in their attacking and transitional play.

Definitely today is a 6-pointer, as is the Wolves game.

Let's turn the form book, beat Brentford, and Everton get a much-needed victory. Hopefully a very positive and much-needed win and the takeover by TFG edges closer to completion. That would be a nice Christmas present for Evertonians.

Peter Mills
7 Posted 23/11/2024 at 06:57:42
Whatever his precise role, Ndiaye will thrive best by having a teammate or two playing closer to him.

He is excellent at nicking the ball from an opponent or, (occasionally), receiving a pass to feet, and retaining the ball. But far too often he has nobody with whom he can play a one-two, so his ability to twist, turn and accelerate is wasted.

Frank Sheppard
8 Posted 23/11/2024 at 07:02:16
Heartfelt message to Sean Dyche:

Just because he hasn't played in that position for Burnley, doesn't mean he can't play in it for us.

David Bromwell
9 Posted 23/11/2024 at 08:44:55
Unfortunately, I cannot make the game today, visiting my daughter and Brentford supporting son-in-law and grandsons. On their only visit to Goodison Park, Toney got a very young Braithwaite sent off and we lost.

They are all feeling confident and looking forward to the match. I, on the other hand, was just hoping that Dyche would for once just try something a little different and set us up to win the match.

I fear if we sit back and use the usual hoofball to Calvert-Lewin, as has been this season's pattern, we will be in for a difficult game. Surely that much is all too obvious.

Mark Murphy
10 Posted 23/11/2024 at 09:18:08
As Danny says, we set up with three behind the striker with two protecting the defence. So why aren't we more potent going forward?

Is it because those three are just too far behind the striker??
We have to find a way to play closer to Calvert-Lewin. If he's not the clinical striker we hoped for, then at least feed off his hold-up play and nod-ons.

Jimmy Carr
11 Posted 23/11/2024 at 09:18:17
I am generally of the view that the manager will have his reasons for player selection, whether it be Michael Keane instead of Jarrad Branthwaite (which I think he's been vindicated about courtesy of Jarrad's ongoing injury issues) or Calvert-Lewin instead of Beto, what really matters is the result yet I am perplexed by Sean Dyche's comments about Ndiaye.

We're not scoring any goals, we're precariously close to the drop zone, yet our most talented creative player can't get a chance inside? What? What a thing to say! He could have just said, I prefer McNeill in that role but Ndiaye's chance may come.

With every passing week Dyche's limitations as a manager become a little more obvious. I'm not here to call for his head, beating Brentford is far more important for me. But if we lose, statements such as the one about Ndiaye will be thrown back at him. One definition of madness is doing the same thing over and over but expecting a different result. Sean take note.

Lior (4) I disagree with your assessment that Dyche is managing for himself. He deserves respect for his work over the last two seasons but he doesn't have the skills to introduce a more proactive style of play. I think he's a man under pressure and resorting to what he knows best, which oftentimes people do in challenging circumstances.

Lee Courtliff
12 Posted 23/11/2024 at 10:36:10
This is just Dyche in a nutshell, "I know best and won't change for anyone".

Fan pressure may have changed things if he was being kept on but everyone, including Dyche, knows he's on his way in a few months.

And I'm not so sure he deserves a massive amount of respect for the job he's done here as a mere 27 points would have been enough for survival last season and surely any decent manager could muster that with the squad we had.

It's a shame too because, between September and December last season, I actually thought he might surprise me and turn out to be a decent or even good manager for us. But the last 11 months have been dreadful barring those 6 days in April.

We just need to get through this season and start over in the summer.

Barry Rathbone
13 Posted 23/11/2024 at 11:06:54
Worryingly, Dyche seems to be reading fan forums and reacting to the populist cause of the week. This lad as #10 and his recent defence of Keane being examples.

Next step will be calling the fans out as disruptive, unhelpful and thick – causing the indignant to get around his car. Best keep schtum, accept only results matter, and suck it up.

Lior Losinsky
14 Posted 23/11/2024 at 11:21:47
Jimmy Carr, I see him week-in and week-out subtly throwing our players under the bus to save his reputation and show how well he's doing with a "limited squad".

This season, he's consistently making comments about the limits of the squad, the lack of Premier League experience, lack of "true" fitness, players not ready, working hard on certain deficiencies, Beto this, Ndiaye that, that he can only play his long ball style because of extreme squad and player deficiencies. The squad can have no confidence from his press conferences hearing how limited they are seen by him and his coaching team.

I rarely hear other managers protect themselves so much, unless they are looking for the sack and a payout. The best at that is Mourinho, but Dyche has been digging at this squad all season to save his reputation and show how amazing he is.

Granted he did a difficult job last season under the circumstances, but those circumstances do not give him the excuse for not getting a win in 4 months and competing against 3 of the worst teams in the relegation zone.

Many managers could have done better. I realise very few would have taken on that challenge, but he had no great job options before us, and he won't have many more after us, even with the British Media love-in for him.

Rob Dolby
15 Posted 23/11/2024 at 11:51:52
We do need to shake things up a bit in the final third. Ndiaye, McNeil and whoever he has playing right-midfield could change positions.

Ndiaye is a good carrier of the ball, can he split a defence with a pass or cross with quality after 10 games in? I don't know. He is exciting to watch but is he creating and scoring?

We had Doucoure playing No 10 for 18 months and it worked to a degree.

The problem with the system is, whoever plays No 10 has to play well or the team doesn't function. Why even play a No 10? Why not pack the midfield and create width with McNeil and Ndiaye to get crosses in?

The article does ice the cake a bit with the Ndiaye plaudits imo.

Billy Bradshaw
16 Posted 23/11/2024 at 12:17:49
Lior @ 14,

Brilliant assessment of the conman, who somehow has ended up our manager.

Jimmy Carr
17 Posted 23/11/2024 at 14:03:13
Lior (14)

I'm not defending him, but I've read this idea in other threads that Dyche thinks it's all about him and, as you say, he's managing for himself and not the team.

Not really sure how managing for yourself works to be honest. If Dyche is looking to save his reputation then surely he needs to string a few wins together? The outcome of that will be more points for Everton and presumably everyone's a winner.

The idea that he's throwing players under the bus, or criticising the squad for his own ends has no basis in facts and just reflects the frustration we all have with Everton's current predicament. It's one of the many 'conspiracy theories' you read in this forum.

I've seen enough not to expect much better from this version of Everton under Dyche, we know he's not here for the long term but he is a professional with a job to do. I don't believe for a moment that includes 'managing for himself'.

Raymond Fox
18 Posted 23/11/2024 at 14:09:07
Lets see how many goal scorers have we in the team?

McNeill pops a few in, Ndiaye seems a likely lad, Doucoure one every blue moon, Calvert - Lewin has forgot where the goal is, who else?

Yet its all Dyche's fault, we don't score enough, its no wonder its a struggle.

Thats up to now, I happen to think we will win today even though our midfielders hardly ever score.

If the two or three that are out injured return we will have a few more options.

Si Cooper
19 Posted 23/11/2024 at 15:01:43
Barry (13), I think it is probably the journos asking the (pertinent) question who are plugged in to the fan forums.

Mike G, Dwight McNeil is ‘tigerish'? Enthusiastic and committed but far too physically limited (slow as feck) to be likened to the king of the cats!

Up the Toffee tabbies!


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