NBA legend Jason Kidd joins Everton ownership group

I take one extract from that. "Winning Menality".

Beaten out of us for far to long. Fortunately some of us refused to accept no matter how much we were labelled.

More positive news.

To cite Bob Dylan. The times they are a changin'.

Playing 2 young CBs is not something you see often, but if the alternative is the hapless Mick Kegger, then I don't think there's any other alternative.

Providing he doesn’t opt for Keane and keep O’Brian at right back 🤨

ToffeeWeb will be ToffeeWeb Neil. As entertaining as much as it can be educational.

I have no concerns of Kidd’s background in other sports. He’s here to invest and advise.

Whisper it quietly but we are starting to lay the foundations of being professionally run. Hopefully that will trickle down onto the pitch in time.

As long as he doesn't start singing "Grand Old Team"

They will learn and respect our heritage, but be looking to capitalise on our potential and future.

It’s going to make a few uncomfortable but no more cosy little Everton is fine by me.

Joe, that song should be scrapped off our playlist.

RB is the biggest question.

Do you take a chance on Patterson (09 Cup final? That was where they won it) or go safe with Young as I do not think Seamus is fit.
But what message does that give to Nathan?

Glad that is DM's decision and we will slag him off anyway.

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I will be be even more excited when we bring sports leaders in with a winning track record in football.

Obrien I think is predominantly right footed.

Could be wrong, but I think they can play together. They lack leadership experience, but it's the way it is with Tarkowski out for the season and having an op.

Can see Young or Coleman starting ahead of Patterson. Moyes won't want 3 young players at the back, away from home at Chelsea. Tbh neither do i.

Kidd is loved and respected across the NBA -- great player, decent coach -- and locally in Dallas for his charity work. Not divisive at all. And he has always loved soccer, second only to basketball. Played the game as a youngster and has an ownership stake in a girls soccer program in his hometown of Oakland.

Personally he's had some issues -- reputed violence in his first marriage and a DUI about 13 years ago. But he cleaned up his act.

I went looking for clarity on what happened with the domestic violence issue and found the article below, which is certainly overblown, but a journalist felt compelled to write an entire article about how “divisive” he is.

https://www.espn.com/blog/new-york/brooklyn-nets/post/_/id/19596/history-of-jason-kidds-past-incidents

I’m sure he’s beloved by many, and his athletic accomplishments speak for themselves, but let’s be clear about what happened.

The root cause of the ensuing ban was swept under the carpet from 10PM on the 29th May 1985, although it doesn’t stop a lot of Liverpool fans disputing Everton’s chances of winning that cup, and they have even flown flags on the kop, celebrating Steau Bukarest’s victory.

This doesn’t stop the media fawning over our neighbours, and has never stopped our neighbours from believing they are the greatest team, with the greatest supporters in the land.

It’s going to get even worse over the coming weeks mate, and it wouldn’t surprise me if something with an Everton connection was defaced in the celebrations.

I don’t know much about Jason Kidd, but I’m now aware he his a double Olympian? Okay he might have been playing for the team with the best players, but he has also been a successful coach and it’s a very long time since Everton employed real winners.

I’m hoping Kidd’s expertise will bring wisdom, because I believe you can’t have enough wise men🤞

(This probably explains why Ancellotti, knew he had to get away from Everton)

He's not for me I'm afraid, not that it matters of course.

I did like Brian Kidd( no relation, just thought I'd mention him) back in the day, he had a bit of swagger about him too, but this guy seems to be a bit of a twat tbh.

But I was only 10 and my language has slightly improved since then!

Is this other Kidd related to captain Kidd, the Scottish pirate? I'm not kidding.

In 2012 he got a misdemeanor DUI.

You are welcome to consider those and his well-documented gamesmanship and conflicts with coaches to be "divisive"... but I doubt you would find anyone in the NBA who agrees with you. His coaching results are the source of considerably more controversy than his past conduct.

I would be very surprised if his buy-in to Everton creates any controversy within the fan base.

I was simply making the point that I've made a couple times that I'd rather the people in leadership positions of clubs/organizations/etc that I'm a part of not be people who admit to beating their wives.

Also, as a casual NBA fan, but someone who follows American sports pretty closely, I've never thought of Kidd as any sort of hero to anyone in this country. Just an odd choice as a person to bring on board for, what, £15-20M? He doesn't move the needle for me, nor do I think for anyone else.

To that end, Tony 22, I guess I could get on board if I thought the guy would make even a tiny difference in taking us forward as a sporting enterprise. But I can't see for the life of me how he does that. If someone can explain to me how an American basketball star with no real die-hard supporters stateside and questionable coaching history helps us, I'm all ears.

As a person, as Jonathan states even more so. As a coach? Surprisingly successful but I don't see any correlation between basketball and football that his nous can benefit us.

Seems to me he's like a Mandy Kaling (The Office actress hyped as Swansea owner) type rich person investing in something they don't really know or understand.

Hopefully he's not looking for a quick return on his money.

"I don't see any correlation between basketball and football that his nous can benefit us."

He's going to replace Moyes and be our Ted Lasso.

For those who want to sit on a moral high horse and virtue signal about investor's personal lives or business interests I wonder how precious they were when the funds for our new stadium originated from a certain Uzbek oligarch?

Absolutely Ron, but Mike Gaynes does not think that a guilty wife-beater is “divisive” and in a group of one he tries to defend the guilty wife-beater and drunk driver (come on guys, they were only misdemeanours). I'm lost for words. This is, needless to say, because the wife-beater is a Yank and for MG the more Yanks the merrier at our Texas club.

I’m with Jeff (23), google “Jason Kidd divisive” and you’ll find contrary to Mr. Gaynes’s chirpy view of Kidd’s what “professionalism”, that he has a somewhat spotty record when it comes to one-on-one relations and judgment and his wife-beating and drunk driving don’t even appear. He looks a lot more like the “divisive” or “problematic” figure in Jonathan and Kieran’s words.

Back to my earlier point, I'm glad that this new dawn is stepping away from the sentimental rubbish that “ran” our club for decades.

Now back to them. Once we get the nauseating celebrations out of the way, standby for blue tide and rising red jealousy.

Danny, beware my mate, it could tip too far the other way. How about our Sheeds on the board?

"Hell, yes — where do I sign up? What are they called?"

Errrm… the Everton.

"Never heard of them but, if it makes me money, then great — I am in!!!"

Am I being too cynical?

Who, apart from the supporters isn't in football and sport not to make money?

Sheedy and Souhall as fans' ambassadors Paul. They could work with the FAB.

Which reminds me, I must keep checking as I want to throw my name in. I missed the window last summer.

I offered no defense or "come on, guys" with regards to Kidd, just a simple recitation of the legal facts. Mr Integrity not only considers that a defense but credits it to my nationality. How charming. He even repeats his ongoing pattern of inventing words I did not use ("professionalism" is now filed away with "big club" and "huge club" and other imaginative creations).

All I did was opine that Kidd's past legal issues would not prove divisive or controversial as an Everton investor, with which Jonathan essentially agreed. My only editorial comment on Kidd was, and I quote: "Actually, I have no idea what he brings. Except a little celebrity power. And maybe he can help Alcaraz with his passing."

As to whether Kidd is a respected figure in the professional sports world, you don't have to take my word for it (although I did cover the NBA as a journalist during Kidd's early career). Our executive chairman's statement certainly endorses the idea. And I doubt Friedkin would accept an investment he doesn't financially need from a celebrity he didn't respect.

I eagerly await the next burst of invention from Mr Integrity…

'Obsessive'. Nah lad. I reply to anyone who writes the sort of stuff like it was only misdemeanours guys. It so happens that you do it with some regularity.

Would you care to explain how this your latest nutty rant began when, along with others you called idiots and drunk, I called you out for your nutty claim that DCL had never scored 'a great goal' for us and your bizarre response. Before that it was all 'PF how much did that sandwich cost' and 'PF do they do takeout'.

But now we're back to the touchy transparent can't take criticism corrector-in-chief. People like this called out and on the defensive always lash out. It's obsessive predictable behaviour. Next time you come out with something similar rest assured that I will respond.

Thankfully I'm off for two days to give a lecture and graduate class at Berkeley. I can concentrate on things that really matter for me and not your shite and have an exclusively academic two days. Perhaps by Wednesday you might have cooled down oh King of sensitivity and I can't take it but heck yeah man you bet I'll give it out bro.