Moyes exasperated by defensive blunders

One useful point to come out of performances like yesterday’s is that it shows Moyes what this group of players are like against relatively weaker players. How many times is that this season that they have thrown away a lead?

What people seem to be forgetting is that this is, with one exception, the squad that lost Dyche his job and had us staring down the barrel of relegation. A lot of our squad are either poor players or are not up to it mentally and Moyes has done very well to get us safe at this point in the season.
We will get better as he weeds out the players who aren’t up to it. We need to avoid the trap we’ve fallen into before and not buy players on their way down. We need to get a few young players through into the squad though there doesn’t seem much in that regard apart from Armstrong. We will be restricted by FFP rules and I do wonder whether Branthwaite or Pickford will be sacrificed to increase the transfer kitty?
This will be a slow process - I’d guess two seasons to get to mid table and maybe creep into the top 10 but who knows what will happen? We need to continue to support like we have all season and try to be patient, which isn’t easy but with the new stadium and new owners we are moving in the right direction.

Moyes does give an honest summing up of the games.

We scored 2 goals which makes a change, but thats the thing, play more attack minded players and you run the risk of conceeding more goals. Defence has been our best asset, its swings and roundabouts and of course Tarkowski was missing which probably cost us the match.

Each game Moyes will have a better idea of who he wants to retain and who he doesn't, results are not vital for us now.

We are the home team and Ipswich should have been cannon fodder for a team that should want to win for the home fans, especially as it was the penultimate game at Goodson park, but I didn’t see any constructive pressing and dominating play, just bluster and aimless running around.

A New Stadium and New Owners, fantastic, but realistically the bulk of this squad should be moved on and replaced or else it will be more of the same next season.

A great opportunity to rebuild and have a squad challenging for European places and cups. Please don’t get it wrong.

Dave@2

Spot on.

Its still a turd.

Dyche gave it a go. He got some crud off. Sadly we then added more. Nothing he could do to knock the edges off and make it something its not.

Moyes cleaning kit, being different,gave the same shite a more rounded look but that crap keeps shining through.

He can only do so much.

We need a jet spray to blast away all the shite thats caked itself in over the decades as well as more recent pooh.

Unfortunately Masters and his PGMOL (featuring anti-EFC VAR - for extra non stick points and stubborn decisions) have removed the power supply allowing us to cleanse that nasty past.

So protective wear on for next seasons huge sloppy cow pat that is destined for our fresh new pasture

I don't think the defence can be blamed for Ipswich's first goal. A worldie shot that no keeper could have saved. But the equalizer was entirely down to the defence. Didn't stop the cross and our two 6' 5" young CB's failed to mark up properly.
Our problem is we are still fragile when the opposition ups the pace and runs at us. We scored two good goals but the moment they scored we panicked once again and started trying to hold out as they increased the pressure.
No doubt Moyes knows what is wrong with this squad and will try to rectify as much of it as he can in one window. But I think next season will be more about consolidation within the PL and avoiding any further relegation battle trauma. We are at the start of a new era with a new stadium and a new ownership regime. But we must not get carried away like we did at the start of the Moshiri era. We cannot expect to go from relegation dodgers to challenging for CL places overnight. We need a proper plan and the means to carry it out.

Frank there was no pressure on the ball whatsoever It was a rocket, but he went past Gana too easily and Garner hardly rushed to close him down. I think you can expect better from both.

With Mcneil's and Encisco's it showed you can't leave Premier league players time on the ball to pick their spot.

I did read his comments this morning, but opted not to comment.

His comments on Alcaraz are interesting. Has he been reading the likes of these pages? Regardless of what I or any other supporter thinks, a coach should make decisions on his own instinct and knowledge of the players he sees day in day out.

Given that we’ve endured several seasons of dreadful club management, resulting in having to sell off our better players ( Ritchie, Iwobi, Gordon etc) and replacing them with inferior options and loans, perhaps we should be grateful that we are still in the PL.
Our current predicament will probably take a couple of seasons to fix, but teams like Forest have shown that rapid improvements can be made.

We can improve next season Mike. This season is a write off.

But with a financial backing we seem to have in place, playing it cute in the transfer market, why can't we compete next season? Why should we wait a few seasons? I don't think we have to.

Gees Danny, cmon. The pressures off, and he's playing a side that everyone wanted to see.

Are we really going to pick the bones on that?

Ian, that's the frustration. He may have picked the players everyone wanted (Tarkowski missing). But the tactics were still the same.

We had our moments earlier in the game, but over the course of 99 minutes (45+3 then 45+6), we looked cautious and ordinary against a team that has shipped 76 goals and has a goal difference of minus 41.

This season is over. Time to move on. Even in the depths of despair before and just after Christmas, we could have done much better on the back of the bounce. But we've reverted to type.

I genuinely hope we don't do that next season.

Ok, what tactically did you want to see differently from a side playing a low block?

I saw a side that played a lot higher, and with full backs that got forward. The delivery and movement was poor, and we lacked know how to fashion chances desite possession.

A shame the players didn't put in the same effort that the 1878 fan's club in organising banners and get the stadium ready. But that is a tad simplistic

I am hoping that with the extra capacity and improved match day revenue, Spurs make £700k from hospitality each home game. Stadium naming rights and possibly even getting Finch farm sponsored. That all in alll we might have a few quid to spend.

I think Moyes has had time to implement his system and bring the players up to speed on it.After the initial honeymoon period with a inherited midfield he was able to push forward.Since that has fell apart there is no evidence that Moyes has ideas to implement his system or that the players are on board.

Things will not change if Moyes is just going to bring in players, he has to bring in players to a working system that they can buy into.

It does seem that Moyes dropped Doucoure and Harrison due to fan pressure ,according to his comments , but as Manager he has to have working ideas to bring in replacement Players and change in tactics.

He has to beat Southampton are else he will find himself outside the stadium looking in.

2 - 0 up. We could, with a bit more bravery, have gone for the jugular. We didn't.

I'll be honest, despite all my years of playing, I don't really know what low block means. Sitting back and defending? As good as their first goal, that got them back in the game was, we certainly sat off for it.