Cannon fodder for the new Champions

Words genuinely fail me.

Made up for Leicester, shows it can be done.

We do not have cover at right back and this has been the case for years.So Lukaku and Niassie are both starting ????

Don't think Leiecester read the script!

I always had confidence against virtually every side we met a season or so ago, but now I would be apprehensive about facing any team from any division.

Can someone remind me what number Lukaku is so I can spot him on the pitch.

I can't wait for the season to end, I feel sorry for all the blue supporters who have gone. Just blew for half time and you can hear the boos.

This man, his abilities and his tactics are absolutely useless. Totally absolutely useless.

I don't think the players have any idea what it is all about the way they seem to be stretched around the field. Bring on some of the kids. They might not have learned how to tippy tap and keep kicking the ball back to our goalie.

If dickhead is still the manager next season then I won't be watching anymore .

Sure hope the board are pro-active and have the new manager lined up already complete with new backroom staff.

By the way is it possible to transfer Lukaku like this coming week a complete waste of space.

Completely embarrassed, but, who cares "Ching-Ching" another packet in the bank account, and I think I'll pull a sickie - the old "feeling' me hamstring Boss' works every time. TWATS!!

Why bother. Asked my wife to hurry up our meal so I don't have to watch to the end....The end came months ago when Martinez escaped the madhouse and no one told Bill not that it would make any difference

GET THE CLOWN OUT NOW!!!!

I'm ashamed to say it, but I bought some of this man's snake oil.

I no longer want Martinez at the club, but these are well paid professional footballers for heavens sake. Have some pride.

Can't see it being much better next term as the majority of this squad will still be here and they are simply not good enough to wear the shirt.

Strange bringing on Gibson and Osman hasn't transformed things. At least he brought a couple of our youngsters to find out what an away bench is like. Bloody hell!!!

Somebidy wrote on the live feed how disturbing it is at how shit we are.....how right he is!!

It is there for all to see, that this team has had enough of Martinez and we, as Evertonians certainly have! Well said, Andy Crooks (#53).

1) We were awful again. Yet again. And again

2) I keep posting. Nothing offensive or inappropriate, but rarely are they put up. Perhaps I am to posting what Lukaku and Niasse are to striking... invisible

Deulofeu and Mirallas are the only two exciting players that id keep and they rarely see 45 mins...

Niasse... WTF...he looked like a Plymouth argyle player ffs... McCarthy...wtf does he do????? What does he do????GRRRRRRRR

I feel I know what it was like for Judas. If anyone asks me if I'm an Evertonian I reckon I'd deny it and say no. Have I really fallen this low?

Spurs must be distraught that they didn't win the title this season.

We are a complete shambles of a club from top to bottom. Everton are nothing without the fans so somebody on the board better take action, and fast.

The problem with EVERTON is and always has been BIll Kenwright. People on here talk about the media not bothering with us, why would they? We have had the same manager for 10 years and were just happy with being also-rans for the top 4 not the league. Who can blame them? We then have a real chance of pushing on when he decides to walk ('walk' I said; not 'sacked') and we bring in a relegated manager with an FA Cup win under his belt.

The stats from his time at Wigan told the truth of anyone at the club could be bothered to read it up. They could of got a person in with a bit of pc knowledge to look it up for about 𧴜 or less and presented it to them but No! Bill Kenwright knows best. Where is the team now? Absolutely hopeless and exactly where they should be with the manager at the helm.

People on here talk about Duncan Ferguson, David Unsworth, Eddie Howe taking over but absolutely are against the idea of the likes of Martin O'Neill taking over, WHY? What has the former mentioned done that warrants there chance of getting such a prestigious job and I say Prestigious because in my mind it is.

What have people got against Martin O'Neill? won everything with Celtic when Rangers still mattered, got to Europa final and brought Villa within an inch of champions league. What makes Eddie Howe such an attractive proposition? He brought Bournemouth to the premier league and that's it, Oh, he's an Everton fan, so what? David Unsworth? Duncan Ferguson please get a grip.

The problem with Everton is Bill Kenwright and the poison he lets filter down through the fanbase with fans putting forward people who have done f.a. in the game worth note when you are looking at being the best and Everton's badge is a joke because from what we have been served it is nothing but the best so in a way it kinda is true. So don't blame the media, they only go by what they see, even Leicester showed ambition by taking on Ranieri who is a well respected coach throughout Europe.

I am so annoyed by the lack of ambition shown from the club it beggers belief. The fact that Martinez still in a job after the 4-0 drubbing at Anfield was the lowest of the low and all dignity left that night. Until Everton show ambition then this place was not change. Rant over.

Is Bullshit Bill's so called illness Dementia by any chance, because there has to be a reason for standing by this Catalonian halfwit. I have loads of Geordie mates who are clinging on to the hope we can help them. I am so fucking embarrassed with this dross.

As for manager selection, I would accept Coco the Clown before this cunt.

The next question should have been, "are you considering your position here?" or "when are you leaving?"

A total joke of a 'manager'.

If I was the new manager then those fuckers would be first out the door.

They're being paid (handsomely) to do a job, perform professionally and represent the club. Whether or not they like or respect the manager, or think he's a bigger nob jockey than Noel Edmonds, is neither here or there. Any Everton player who intentionally refuses to put in their full effort and doesn't give a flying fuck about rolling over and being humiliated, week after week, while match going fans are forking out their hard earned wages to watch such shameful shite, deserves even more scorn than the one sending them out on the pitch. In fact, if it were true, it might explain a few things and, simply on that basis alone, I'd even be tempted to say give Martinez another year just to teach the weak, yellow, backstabbing, wankers a bit of a lesson.

How anyone can say "I'm all for it" is beyond me but, then again, maybe it's just me because "cheering the opposition on for months" would make feel like something of a cunt as well.

Now listen carefully 'oh what a manager'. NO. WE. WEREN'T. We were affected by your stupid team selection, tactics & fitness levels (if you can call it fitness). We have been playing like this for over 2 years. Now fuck off out of our club. NOW!!

Our club is a fucking walking calamity under this regime.

Onto Booby; this is his 7th season as a PL manager, his teams have conceded 416 goals, which is 1.58 goals a game or 3 conceded every 2. That means we'd (or any team Booby manages) would have to have a front line of the Barca 3 and Ronaldo to score enough to stop the leaks at the back.

A bit pissed off at the mo.

A clear new direction from a new manager that can excite the players, combined with early doors player investment, is vital. If not, the decisions that lead to a player exodus will be cut and dried by July.

I think Koeman, de Boer etc were reasonable solutions had we replaced Martinez last year. But we're past that stage now, with our young, experienced backbone, encouraged by El Clown's consistently OTT hyperbole, all seeking experiences worthy of their 'phenomenal talent'.

Instead, we need a manager who has more than mere 'potential' - we need a winner who's reputation preceedes him. Only such a headline grabber can possibly hope to re-fire the confidence of these players to remain at Goodison whilst building a winning platform for future seasons.

For my money we should push for either Löw or , sorry to say it, Benitez; both holding the reputation, experience and x-factor that might just pull together this talented bunch back into a team, once more.

Everton have embarrassed themselves again. I hope Lukaku goes in the summer for big money for him. We need the egos out and some quality team players in. He clearly doesn't want to be at the club and doesn't want to play for the manager anymore.

Koeman and realism in the same sentence whilst BK is in charge?

I have my doubts.

BK being BK, at this moment the man is probably fondling his genitals at the following thought:

Link

Benitez - Couldn't manage a win against Aston Villa today in a do or die fixture. Almost certainly getting relegated.

They both sound ideal. Maybe we could have two managers like the RS did in the 90's with Houllier and Evans? :P

1-3 down to Leicester, worthy Champions, and we bring on Gibson and Osman. Honestly, it's not even funny any more.

I said on a previous thread a couple of weeks ago that Kenwright has become an embarrassment to this club, irrespective of any previous input. If he really believes that Martinez is the man to take this club forward then we are well and truly fucked.

The silence from the board is an arrogant dismissal of the fans feelings, BK should do the honourable thing for his "beloved club", resign, hand over the power,whatever is needed and take the idiotic Spaniard with him.

Humiliated doesn't even come close to how the VAST majority of fans feel. Someone, do something for fucks sake before we become a phenomenal Championship side in a good moment because we avoided relegation again.

The squad of players assembled between 2006-2009 was indeed the best in terms of variety, heart and passion.

Players like Lee Carsley, Tommy Gravesen, Mikel Arteta, Tim Cahill, even cult figures like Marouane Fellaini....where are those type of players now??

Look at the striking options we once had??

Yakubu, reserve strikers like a sublimely talented Louis Saha, even useful squad player's who would put a shift in like Andy Johnson, James Vaughan, James McFadden..

The defence always had leaders of men in it like Stubbs, Weir, Joey Yobo, a young athletic man mountain that was Joleon Lescott..

This squad now is pansy like lightweight shite.

Where are the options, what midfielder creates anything, what midfielder has a brain or pace, what midfielder could score a header like Tim Cahill???

Its a grossly overrated squad overseen by a totally inept shite pile of bullshit in charge of it.

Sack Martinez and sell any of them.

We need a massive wholesale clean sweep..

Awful.

Everton last 2 away games:
12 shots for
68 shots against

We are an absolute shambles, disorganised,and disinterested as the season ends.

I predict two more defeats, playing as we are, as we will get nowt at Sunderland, and I expect Norwich to beat us at home. Then the boos will tear the roof off at Goodison.

At one point we had a free kick on the half way line and the player went up faced our own goal and played the ball back towards goal and we were 3 nil down!

When Rooney left, I was heartbroken but when Lukaku goes I will simply want to know what we got for him.

We all know Sunderland will beat us on Wednesday and that says so much about how far we have fallen. I have said before the next appointment so critical as it will sum up where we are going for next decade.

"sublimely talented Louis Saha"...
"cult figures like Marouane Fellaini"...
"James McFadden"...
"young athletic man mountain that was Joleon Lescott"

You are waxing lyrical are Moyes' Boys like our very own RM!

Maybe you didn't watch that team then mate!!

Saha was held back only through injury but the man was international class and Lescott was truly immense for three seasons at Everton which resulted in a 24 million pound move to City.

McFadden and James Vaughan and Andy Johnson were all superior to Niasse and Kone, who offer absolutely nothing other than a good joke.

And yes cult figures like Fellaini who Evertonians idolized for four years because he offered something different and compare the shite McCarthy, Barkley and sideways Cleverley and Besic offer now...??

I'd take Fellaini any day mate!!

Barkley was as anonymous as ever. I'm sorry but I simply just don't see it. The lad barely moves!! And the only time he ran with the ball he did was he always does.... pass it to the opposition!! Don't give me all that "Ross is a blue" nonsense. We're all blues but none of us are good enough to be 1st choice at a premier league side!! If city or whoever come calling in the summer with a big fat cheque I'd back their hand off before they realise what an overhyped overweight luxury we can ill afford to carry week in week out!! "A diamond"???? Don't make me laugh!!

Lukaku looked like he was already on the beach and barely broke sweat!!

Robles given vardy stick for missing a penalty was embarrassing!! FFS we were THREE NIL down!!!

Finally Roberto....deluded nonsense every time someone puts a mic in front of him. If he thinks today's performance was so poor because (in his words) "we lacked the intensity and performance levels of last week" then god help us. Last week our performance was anything but intense!!! It was like an end of season testimonial. If he stays as manger we can kiss goodbye to any of our better players and get ready for the championship. Our Champions League away form is not much better than our Championship home form. Enough of the bullshit....

Somos mierda no fenomenal ........ That sums him/us up!!!

On the way home from the King Power after hopefully watching the last away performance, if you can call it that, under this totally demented and delusional losers management.

Roberto Martinez, get out of our club.

There's no lasting positives to take into next season aside from Moshiri's place on the board but his input when it's released will be interesting.

I'm actually glad the league was settled before we went to Leicester today, would have been awful on any other team chasing the league to have to rely on our shambolic team.

John and James (128 + 135) agree completely. The lack of effort from the players is appalling. Martinez knew Leicester would be on a high going into the game, this was his chance to show that Everton still have some fight, this was his chance to show his supposed flair and managerial skill.

The result and performance showed exactly why we have had such a bad season. Lucky indeed the league season isn't more than 38 games else we would be down on this form.

No new contracts for the likes of Gibson, Pienaar, Osman, Hibbert, get shut of mediocre players who aren't good enough to take the club forward, sell Stones and replace him with a man that can jump, be physically strong and actually DEFEND..

Flog Lukaku and replace him with a striker that will give his all every time he sets foot on that pitch like Vardy does at Leicester.

Cut our losses on Niasse, accept he's not good enough for this league and attempt to sign a lad from the Championship like Andre Gray at Burnley (just an example, I know they came up) but at least it won't take years to settle in and he'd work hard..

We need a whole new blueprint!!

"Kenwright should resign after handing over this shambles. He has sat there for 20 years and I can't think of one single thing he has achieved, just steady decline."

I agree with that completely. The only thing he has achieved in those years has been his recent trousering of how many tens of millions for his shares?

Not a penny or an idea or a vision has he put into the club. For me he can't go soon enough. He has left no legacy beyond the dilapidation under his chairmanship of this once great football club.

The Blues, but for Robles and some poor finishing could have, should have lost by 6 or 7 clear goals!

Bill "What a Manager" Kenwright and Roberto "Phenomenally Incredible" Martinez should both do the honourable thing and resign from their respective positions with immediate effect.

Now is there a rest home out there for retired snake oil salesmen and clowns, anyone?

I really hope he can find a club that will play in a way that his poor first touch, lack of ability in the air and an expectation of doing some work will mean he can continue to just focus on scoring in the area.

What are the Board waiting for?

However the longer this sorry situation goes on, it's clear the manager is only one part of the problem. The players have clearly stopped playing for him and no longer believe in any of his shit. However they should not be excused for the displays of the past 3 months. Pride? Don't make me laugh.

Personally I'd get rid of the majority of this so called 'golden generation' and rebuild from scratch. What is the point of playing Osman, Hibbert, Howard etc? Also time for Kenwright, Woods, Elstone to go. Moshiri needs to take control and usher in a new era. Wipe away the stench of mediocrity that has gripped this club since the early 1970s (84-87 was the only time we bucked this trend for over 40 years now). This mediocrity is basically the so-called 'Everton Way' that Kenwright seeks to cherish so much and has many an Evertonian think that 2nd best (or the shite we are being served year after year of his time as a director, owner or chairman) is acceptable.

Time to being a winning mentality and ruthlessness in to the club. It should start by sacking the most incompetent manager in our clubs history immediately. His P45 should just say NSNO. Please let's apply the club motto for once and actually aspire to deliver what it means. If not, I really fear for next season.

It's a pity for Norwich that they'll already be relegated by the final game because they'd be looking forward to 3 points as well. Shambles.

How are we stronger? How have we progressed? Champions League? You're taking the piss. You've done well for yourself out of the club you say you love now it's time to pass it on to a proper businessman. Step aside Bill and save yourself a lot of grief. You'll be doing us all a favour.

I have felt more depressed as an Evertonian but I've never felt so much frustration. Go Bill, take the two Bobby's with you and let this club be something again.

Whoever takes over from Martinez will get the same inconsistency and disinterest from certain players. The club needs a clear out from Top to bottom.

First Everton game I've missed seeing in about 10 years but I just knew it would be more of the same.

I blame Kenwright who has treated us fans disgracefully, the 'What a manager' tells us everything we need to know, he thinks he's fucking untouchable, and he should be chucked out with Martinez.

I can't think of any of the players on today's showing that I'd be sorry to leave! Stones and Lukaku especially! Their lack of effort and professionalism from so-called world class players is deplorable! If the fees talked about for these two are correct then sell ASAP.

Anyone on here who thinks this will change with a change of manager should think again. Any player who would use the spurious excuse of not respecting the manager for his woeful lack of effort should be discarded.

I could a page with similar and every one of the comments would be accurate. It was never going to be our day, but no coordination, shocking defence and non-existent attack. In fact I could count on one hand how many players turned up for Everton today. I am ashamed that we have a board that lets this happen on their watch and does nothing, says nothing.

I am ashamed that we have a manager who has alienated every supporter, some feat that, just ask ToffeeWeb, its been the only thing we have all agreed on in 7 years. A man who has lost the changing room, lost the fans, lost the plot and still he is there.

Evertonians never protest enough, they vote with their feet. Normally a full house for the last game of the season next week, I suspect it will be half empty. Cancel a lap of honour, we don't want your thanks for supporting you, we love our club but you have let us down. Disgracefully.

The players have lost faith, lost heart and if the idiot of a manager stays we will see a mass exodus no-one wants to play for him.

Lastly, a note to major shareholder. You have been conned by a con man. Clear the decks as quick as you can if you want to stay in the Premier League.

But Kenwright hasn't got an ounce of respect for us. In fact, I'd go as far to say he hates Evertonians. Why else would he let us suffer like this? It's shameful performance after shameful performance and yet they allow it to carry on.

I've said this many many times. Kenwright will not sack Martinez. Not a fucking prayer... the "What a manager" quote after the Chelsea cup tie was two fingers up to every matchgoing Evertonian.

And that one sentence told me everything I need to know about the way this shabby little club is run. Like everyone, I desperately want him gone. But I'm afraid it wont happen.

Teams are putting us to the sword, week-in & week-out, and nothing is changing.

I don't even get mad anymore when we are beaten and that's not right. Please leave, Martinez, and do the right thing.

That, in my view, was the worst performance by a coach I have ever witnessed at any level of football. The fact that we pay this bewildered cretin millions to try and repeat it is...., fuck my anger level has over heated... there really are many more important things to burst a blood vessel over.

Leicester just had to turn up. There was no threat from Everton, they were totally uninterested, some more than others.

They should look back on this period in their career with shame. They might not want to play for the inept Martinez, but there are other ways of going about it, like getting together as a team and telling the man his tactics, coaching and fitness regime are rubbish. That should have been done weeks ago when when Baines had a go at the club's 'chemistry'. The whole squad should have backed him up.

We'd have won more games without this manager than with him. I felt sorry for the supporters who went today and I've said that a few times this season. Along with a few more fans on here.

Collectively the side has become the worst in the league and it is only the failings of other teams that have kept us out of the relegation fight.

These supposed athletes are Royally paid to work for 90 minutes a week yet quite a few cannot maintain their efforts and visibly tire at the 60 minute mark.Of late we have started every game abysmally and it is an embarrassment for every supporter who pays to watch this abject show of complete apathy.

I have seen far worse Everton sides when we suffered relegation but the money paid to these preening pansy's is an insult to working people.If Martinez is sacked it cannot excuse the shocking displays by the players.I would empty quite a few out and start a complete overhaul during pre season otherwise we will be in danger.

If football and my love for Everton wasn't so ingrained in my blood then I'd walk away from it this evening.

Everton Football Club you break my fucking heart, fuck you.

It's been a hell of a party for the last 2 and a bit years, if you ask me ...

The only consolation for me is that it is nailed on he is gone in the summer and it makes sense with the possibility of the June severance pay thing and the 'quietly' out the back door scenario with the distraction of the Euros.

I guess we just have to be patient – what are the odds on him gone this summer because it will happen, trust me.

I genuinely fear for us, this is the man that brought in this clown and, being the stubborn arse that he is, won't be doing anything about it, Moshiri is our only hope in steering this rudderless embarrassment from doom.

The club apparently welcome comments so why don't you all do yourselves a favour and tell the nice man what you think of him.

I doubt any will be published but they surely will be read.

I'm not going the Norwich game – I just put my tickets on StubHub... I've had enough. Let's hope the rumours are true.

Surely even from the Boys Pen it should be friggin obvious this is the worst manager and worst performing team in decades, if not all time.

Lukaku actually looked as poor as Niasse which was going some. Midfield non-existent. Defence all over the place.

Robles might be a decent goalie if the other 10 knew what they were doing. Bollocks, bollocks, bollocks.

By the way Vardy is a graceless little rat faced twat. Just sayin.....

He should have walked after the derby – possibly the worst performance I have ever seen from our team.

He is the realistic option to go but the root cause of all our woes is Kenwright. It is agreed that 94% of us believes Martinez needs to go. However, Kenwright creates more of a mixed reaction. I remember on TW some of us on here singing his praises for bringing in Moshiri. Yet all he has done is pull the wool over everybodies' eyes again.

He will never relinquish power of this club. He got an investor not a new owner. That's why it took him 12 years to find somebody!! I wonder how much real and genuine interest we actually had from serious buyers that he turned down because he wanted to keep hold of his train set?

The silence is deafening. Our very own Nero fiddling quietly with his Boys Pen rattle whilst Goodison implodes. WE need to be reminding Kenwright every match day that he needs to go too.

Like a few others commenting here too, the players need to take responsibility. I know Martinez sets up the team and fitness levels etc. However, they have been woeful and are clearly playing to have Martinez sacked. Complete lack of professionalism. I won't shed a tear when Lukaku or others departs. Just watch if we do get a new man in charge the transformation in those remaining players will be dramatic.

The whole club needs an overhaul, from the Board, players, commercial team etc. I was actually gutted Leicester won the league because that is another team along with the so called big 5-6 or whatever it is now and the likes of West Ham, Spurs and Southampton that are way ahead of us in attracting players, fighting for Europe, more money and better stadium.

Whatever it takes ... Tennis balls, handkerchiefs, banners, silence, walkout - let's do it but don't just aim it at Martinez - include the board too.

Surely, they cannot do a lap of "honour" can they? Still, I'll live in hope and check on here hourly as usual to see if he has gone.

Goalkeeper – Robles ok for a No. 2 but we need a proper No. 1, new GK required,
RB – Coleman will do but we have no experienced cover, additional RB required,
CB – Funes Mori not good enough, new CB needed,
CB – Jagielka good enough but not young enough, additional CB needed,
LB – regrettably Baines is no longer fit enough, Oviedo not good enough, new LB needed,
LM – no natural left footed wide midfielder, new LM needed,
CM – Barry ditto Jagielka, additional CM needed,
CM – McCarthy not good enough and hides from the ball, additional CM needed,
RM – Mirallas could do a job but never convinced he's a genuine wide player, new RM needed,
Striker – Niasse, no comment, new Striker needed,
Striker – Lukaku good enough but fear he'll be playing elsewhere next season, therefore new Striker needed.

I know there are other players not mentioned such as Stones, Barkley, Deulofeu, Cleverley etc but they will be needed within the squad so can't step into the 1st 11 without needing replacement.

In all that adds up to a massive investment and, notwithstanding funds from player sales, I'm just not sure that even Moshiri has deep enough pockets.

Conclusion: This shambles won't be fixed in one summer and could well take 2 or 3 seasons of investment and restructuring before we have a truly competitive squad. We better get used to the idea.

I know it's easy to make things look good on you tube but some of this stuff would slaughter what passes for a squad these days.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uRtC5nvIS24

This is humiluating and embarrassing. The board are a disgrace. Sod this do it at the end of the season nonsense, do it now! Kenwright is a joke, he hired him and won't fire him! Worst I have ever felt as a Blue

I'm not going on Sunday, empty seat. Fuck of Roberto.

It could be 2 to 3 years to get back to when El Shithead joined. It will need our patience and support..but the board need to appoint somebody with pedigree and we can believe in non of this potential shite. NSNO

The players have given up on the prick and are stealing a living at the expense of us, the long suffering fans. I think my rage is at the arrogance of the board in their refusal to accept that they are making a massive error in not making the change.

Ah fuck it. Fuck them all...

Now where's that third bottle of Merlot. I've had enough for today.

After the game, keep the carnival atmosphere going by putting Kone, McGeady, Niasse, Kenshite and Woods in the stocks so people can hurl cabbages and tomatoes at them. This probably won't happen cause BK has lost his mind.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/36239490

Please get shut, it will be cringeworthy embarrassing at the end of the Norwich game.

'The Prophet of Doom'...

Time to go.

We will be relegated next season.

Fuck them, the greats words of Alan Ball seem not to matter, I know he lost the dressing room weeks ago but there should be an element of passion however small.

Is this the same season where only a short while ago Goodison was rocking after wins against City and Chelsea in the Cups or have I got that wrong!

Barkley gets it and rightly so but the boy tried tonight (Along with Baines...True Blues) and with the right Manager should be whom we build our team around.

Even through the dire 90s it didn't seem to feel this bad.

Sort it Bill.......

Roberto cannot stay as Everton boss that much is obvious, but the re-building that needs doing is quite frightening because it's a struggle to pick out more than two perhaps three players who have at least given it a bit of a go.

Sad times for Evertonians and it might have to get worse before it improves.

The life has been sucked out of this former team. There's no spirit, no togetherness, no heart, no sense of purpose, an empty shell if you like.

This was like watching England with "The Wally with a brolly" in charge, although in fairness to our soon-to-be-former-manager he did brave the elements.

We need a spiritual (in the football sense) revival. We need a fire and brimstone manager to resuscitate this sorry cadaver of a team. We need a mix of Dr Frankenstein and Billy Graham with a dash of Erwin Rommel thrown in. We need, in other words, a fuvking miracle to get us out of this hole.

I shall start lighting candles to illuminate Moshiri in these testing hours and as for BK and his beloved, ten hail Mary's and four ave Maria's .

He said this performance contrasted with last week's...we were shit last week.

Also, he carted out the great away form line W5 D8 L4 - shit away record.

Clown.

Like the end of the Walter a Smith years, your just hoping for a 6 or 7 to get rid of Martinez.

Robles - did his best. Totally exposed by players not remotely interested
Baines - struggled again. Too many crosses coming in on the left hand side. Just show Mahrez down the line...
Stones - shakey without Jags. Before everyone turns on him, he is a young lad being brutally exposed by a manager with no defensive nous what so ever.
Pennington - I don't think the lad will make top grade. I want to give youth a chance, but I just can't see it, although having Martinez doesn't help his case...
Oviedo - is no right back. I don't understand why you'd play him in that position
McCarthy - offered little...again
Barkley - ditto, clearly disillusioned
Lennon - just not top grade
Cleverly - ditto, lucky to stay on the pitch
Niasse - £13.5m pissed up the wall and £50k a week until 2020... Bakayoko, Kone, John Spencer, Mo Johnstone - welcome to the select group of duds.
Lukaku - out muscled, checked out months ago
Gibson - the only lad who can pass in the squad. Oh for a fit lad who could play 50 games a season
Mirallas - must have worked Martinez out months ago. Plays for himself, but l'd have him ahead of others keeping him out every week.
Osman - another kick in the teeth for giving youth a try

At kick-off today 9th place was theoretically achievable at the end of this shambles of a Martinez season.........again. Tonight we're 12th, £5 million or so worse off IF that's where we end up (double that if we end up 15th).

So, from his point of view what more math is there to do? Does he now want to seize the incredible, phenomenal moment now plainly before him or does he want to risk seeing his money growing in matches against Cardiff, Preston and Bristol City the season after next?

I've been to 1st team league games at Goodison where the crowd was consistently way short of 30k (and way back even then the stadium looked shite as a result).

Mr Moshiri, it's beyond the time you need to wake up and get very active............with respect, for now.

Martinez out.

Go through the list of candidates - Walker, Keeley and several others - and dislike is too harsh on them. They weren't up to it or fate conspired against them. But water under the bridge and all that.

But this guy really pisses me off big time.
He's an incompetent leech, hanging on to his job and sucking the lifeblood out of us.

We have gone horribly backwards since Moyes left and all the spirit, fight and passion is gone. Very sad.

Lukaku waits for the ball instead of moving towards it, Barkley is too slow and only half interested and Stones has been ruined by Martinez, and always plays backwards.

It is well past time for Martinez to go.....Kenwright also.

Sanchez Flores is now favourite to take over.

I look at the board, the manager and most of the players and realise that I quite simply dislike them. We are well and truly in the shit, and it's a long road back to being a decent side again.

I made some enquiries and it turns out we were!

Wedding season is well under way now so you're out of luck until 2017 if you want the boys in blue to make your special day, but lots of Sunday's going after next week for First Holy Communions and weekdays for Bar Mitzvahs, Anniversaries and Funerals.

Saturday's are traditionally the boys days off where you will most likely find them at the races. Somewhere they've not been since 2014...

Niasse never mind match fitness he cant even do the basics, like pass, trap a ball, control the ball, run with the ball. Look at what Leicester paid for Kante and Mahrez and contrast with the 㾹M blown on Niasse. The scout responsible should be sacked.

Look at Ranieri today talking with his coaching staff at all times. Whereas our Captain Ahab just stands there arms folded running his one man show talking to no one he's ARROGANT.

I would like to sit with Kenwright and ask him as a chairmen of a club how can he justify keeping Martinez when every team in the premiership would have jettisoned him long ago? Its the Everton way no doubt, the fact that Martinez still has a job demonstrates what we now are, a small club, a relic, left behind with no ambition, living on borrowed time, and our past history.

I firmly believe Kenwright wants to stick by Martinez so he can say misty eyed when he wins the premiership I told you so, I never doubted etc etc. Unfortunately for us, Martinez lost the players last season and we are now seeing the death knell of his reign except we have an impotent chairmen who is to stubborn and vain to sack "his man".

For all the pros and cons of te Moyes years we had one thing.... self respect. The players put a shift in for the badge. Martinez's biggest failure is how he's robbed the team of pride and effort. There is a resignation of defeat now even prior to kick off eerily similar to Aston Villa.

He's a nice guy apparently.............what a manager.

Don't let your emotions fool you. We have a decent squad. Roberto has philosophised the life out of them. We don't need an entirely new squad. You are hysterical.

No. Enough with the 'manager who's got potential' recruitment policies of old.

They're a not playing a as team but our squad does have potential. The owner does have cash. The Club has a reputation for treating manager's with respect and giving them time. Put all of that together and we have enough, maybe, to lure a higher class, more rounded, experienced, winning manager; somebody a bit more inspirational than a shouts-screamy type.

At this crossroads, it's all about ambition and inspiration. If we show it, maybe we turn this mess around - and perhaps quicker than some would expect. But if we lack ambition, i.e. by appointing Moyes Mk2, then we just confirm what Stones, Rom', Ross, Seamus etc are allthinking - that we're just a mid-table selling club.

If the new Moshiri regime are determined to take the Randy Lerner route to disaster, they could hardly make a more significant choice.

We can look forward to being decidedly underwhelmed by the brave new world, it seems !

I hope he can get some tips from his cousin, the tv Supervet, on putting new life into old dogs.

Once Martinez's gone we'll be fine. He'll be quietly released like Big Sam was at West Ham last summer.

We'll be bringing in quality players to replace Howard, Osman, Hibbo, Gibson, Pienaar and McGeady. The problem will be replacing Rom and Stones but no player is bigger than the club and tbh the way Rom has been playing since the Chelsea game, I'd be more than happy to bank 㿣-65m.

We'll get a lot of money for the both of them and the new manager will have a huge transfer budget which be the envy of most managers in the league, not to mention the wages that we've showered on Moyes and Martinez. That's why I think we'll bring in a top manager this summer.

Personally I don't blame Martinez. I blame BK for not releasing him after the semi. It was called a defining week for a reason.

Organised but limited. Better than what we have but so what?

We need to take the opportunity for someone who is a winner, not an also ran.

Push the boat out for once.

This would certainly bring the attention of the wider public to this sorry state of affairs at Everton and also send a message perhaps to the Board, manager and his staff and players that the supporters will not have their loyalty, traditions, and support for the club taken for granted and patronised any longer. Genuine support for the club may well mean that it is time for some drastic action by the support base because it is long past the time when the "let's get behind the manager and the players" mantra can be trotted out.

Of course if the manager is dismissed beforehand it may lessen some of the anger. But there is a need for root and branch reform at Everton at every level. I know nothing of the new shareholder but I certainly hope that he can exert enough influence to address this immediate managerial issue, clear out the deadwood on the playing and coaching staff, and get some true professional standards to permeate the club. It is intolerable that this shipwreck of Titanic proportions has been allowed to go on for so long.

De Boer is the only realistic and exciting prospect of all the names I've seen linked that we should consider. However, until we sack the current Baffoon, it will be just a pipe dream.

Enough is enough! He should be released immediately and a new manager installed in time to take over all transfers and pre season training.

I renewed my ST but I'll not go back to GP until Martinez and his favourites are gone.

Why is his joker still in charge? It has been 2 weeks since the derby disaster and the semi yet he is still in charge. Why? Please don't tell me beating Bournemouth was good enough to justify keeping him in the job. We have lost 3 out of the last 4. The expectation is now that we will lose. This is back to Walker / Kendall mark 3 / Smith days. Terrible.

These last 4 games of the season could have been used by the new manager as meaningful games to get the team ready for next season against teams who have something to play for rather than the pre-season experimental games which offer no idea of how a team performs. We have played and beaten many a team pre-season only to then have been properly mullered when the proper games start.

What a joke! We are next season's Aston Villa!

OR I may be having a bad dream and will wake up soon:-
Leicester winning the league
That poor team from across the park in a Euorpean final
Trump becoming US President

But 11,000 people have voted, they want him gone; if you are one of the 11,000, tell everyone around you the game ends on 78 mins, and let's all walk out! Kenwright will shit himself.

In my opinion, he's an arrogant, trainset-hugging, self-centered prig! Who is only in this for his own gratification, but that's just me.

I'll tell you why – because Everton have the most spineless, unambitious, self-satisfied, small-minded, smug board in football. Small club? We'd better get used to it because it's here to stay. What a manager!

"Only in this for his own gratification" – and the matter of shares sold... worth a cool 㿂.75M. I'm not sure many fans have really twigged to this yet, so I'll say it a bit louder:

££££££ TWENTY-TWO AND THREE-QUARTER MILLION

He's made out like a bandit... yet he's STILL calling the shots. And getting a free pass from many of the fans who still think he 'saved' us. Time for a massive demonstration next Sunday, please.

MARTINEZ OUT!!!!!!!

I trust Kenwright with Everton as much as I'd trust Martinez to answer a question with a straight answer

That needs to be said again and again. This is a man who tells everybody about his love for the club but is profiting out of it. Call me old fashioned but that's not love. That's business. Hang Martinez for sure for being an incompetent fool but the anger should be directed towards the man who is responsible for all this.

"All will be revealed after the Norwich game. Be patient, the end is nigh."

What is that all about?

I think his three favourite sexual positions are doggy style, missionary and the pogo stick pastry spread.

He hasn't told me, I haven't spoken to anyone Far's Had and it's not like I've actually witnessed the swordsman at work first hand.

Nevertheless, I just wanted to put it out there and frame my own guesswork in a manner that might give the misleading impression that I actually have some inkling of what's going on, or could be in possession of some insider info/pillow talk (possibly gleaned from going deep 'undercover' at grotty, Salo style, sex parties at geriatric billionaire's gaffs) without expressly saying as much.

Got no idea why really. Bit fucking weird I'll admit.

His secretary probably bins them though.

That's our Bill. Blue to the fucking core.

The bizarre sight of the demo' at the last home game, with only 100-fans venting, along with the failure of the tennis ball protest, shows that the overwhelming majority trust that the right decision will be made at the appropriate time to can El Clown, I.e. after the last game.

If he's here after that point, then fan action may become a factor – but it won't because he'll be canned very soon after Norwich.

One question I should ask though is where all these vehement anti-Martinez out types where last January, when it became obvious he was a busted flush? Seems to me that we fiddled while Rome burnt, only to get all hysterical when it was too late.

You've answered your own question there mate. Better people than myself have been looking for answers for years now. Sending it to an anonymous email address won't help.

Personally, I think Martinez is gone already and if it takes £45M to get rid of Kenwright I'd be happy with that.

He describes yesterday's performance as incredibly disappointing, particularly after last week's performance full of character. He really does talk nonsense. We were better against Leicester than we were against Bournemouth despite the scores The football we have been playing every week for some months now has been terrible, but it can't be beyond belief if it happens every week, now can it?

Have you ever read 1984. It's doublespeak.

'Aston Villa on Merseyside' his most profitable production. EVER.

Roberto Martinez, sorry no, Oscar Wilde.

I will continue sending you this email until you wake out of your STUPOR and do something about this BUFFOON Martinez who is DESTROYING Everton.

Dear Mr Kenwright or should I call you Boys Pen Billy,

Strangely I don't recall seeing you in the Boys Pen back in the day when supposedly you and I were both there but then we both probably looked at lot different in those days. But as you can see I like you am a lifelong Evertonian I am now 70 years old having been taken to my first games as a seven year old back in the mid '50's by my Father himself a lifelong Evertonian and my Grandfather ditto.

I have stood on the Gwladys Street end and sat in the stands for hundreds of matches and also on my worldwide travels followed Everton on hard to hear worldservice broadcasts in the Kalahari desert and in the Persian Gulf and all over Asia and now watch when I can here in Bali where I live on the worldwide TV networks that broadcast the Prem live.In all those years I have derived much pleasure at our League, Cup and European triumphs and also of course suffered innumerable disappointments, as is the nature of football, but I have previously had no complaints about it at all knowing that that is the nature of the beast.

But that brings us to YOUR Chairmanship and YOUR choices of Mangers, Moyes and Martinez, both of whom were just not good enough. Moyes was a steady hand but lacked the ambition and drive to take Everton to the next level and the deceitful underhanded backstabbing way he left still leaves a bad taste in my mouth. Now we come to Martinez, who in their right mind would take a Manager that has just seen his team relegated and hand him control of the team he purports to love, its just not logical, and so it has proved to be Martinez has performed exactly as he has done in all his time in the Prem, and his record was there for all to see.

So do the decent thing Mr Kenwright put him and us long suffering Evertonians out of our misery and get rid of him NOW. Before he leads us in to the Championship.

Good on ya mate, heartfelt and sincere. Hope he reads it.

So if the players truly are being shite to get him out the maybe us fans need to do our bit at the Norwich game?

He sees 38,000 people turning up at home matches, seemingly 25,000 (if you believe EFC statistics; I don't) renewing season tickets and a small demonstration by about 100 fans.

He feels no pressure and probably sees no reason to change.

Keyboard warriors, I presume you're talking about supporters who haven't said a word in years or the supporters who stayed behind after Bournemouth.

My view is, if someone has a view they have every right to express it. Behind a keyboard or not. And if they do they shouldn't be shut down for it.

As far as staying behind after the match, I think that was very dignified and if more people knew about it, the numbers would have been larger.

Of course, the opposite view is, we can all sit here and cast judgement and call ourselves customers. With no say in the future direction of the club. My view is, I think you'll be surprised about just how much influence we have.

I do believe you know something so can I just ask – will you be happy if what you have heard does happen?< Is it good news or meh?

Fingers crossed we get someone who at least gets the Derby!

6% of people who voted on this site want RM to stay on as manager.

What fuckin' planet are you on? He is killing our once great club.

GET RID NOW!!!!!!!!!!

Brilliant Michael, and still more people will like him than don't. He's put us in a better place though, they say, but didn't Everton used to exist to win trophies?

The saddest part of Kenwright's interview, when he said "What a manager", was when he turned to Moshiri, and said "Wembley!?" Yes, Bill, but only because the semis are played there now though, mate!

I drove up Winslow St, the other day, and that picture of Kenwright on the timeline "that froze", made me feel sick. Sad but true, this man never saved Everton, he's played loads of people like fucking idiots, and completely lowered expectations in the process.

Yesterday's Champions, a club with very little history when it comes to being successful, have been into administration and won three cups since Everton last won a thing.

Be careful what you wish for? For a club that used to fucking win things, and a set of fans that used to demand a team that played with effort.

Michael, I promise now on ToffeeWeb, that I will give next year's season ticket money to any successful campaign, that finally rids us of a phoney called Kenwright.

It's a euphemism. It's the Kenwright way.

What a bunch of gutless twats we have running our club. Act now or face life in the Championship because without doubt that's where we will end up with this fella. His record proves it. He is utter garbage.

Took you fucking long enough to get up whatever mountain that was given the arguments you and I had over 18 months ago when you were defending the prat.

I guess there's no zealot quite like a born again zealot.

I never wanted him as he is perfectly true to form now with his "philosophy" as he has always been. He had me wavering a bit through his first season, I wavered back after the shambolic first 4-0 hammering ( yes, the FIRST one, like one is not enough for a managerial career). I wanted him out proper when I saw his attitude towards capitulation in the 3-0 Carling Cup against Swansea whenever that was.

The clear reason was that it was absolutely apparent that here was a man who picked and choosed the matches for his own gratification rather than trying to win every game. That's dishonest and disrespectful management, swindling the fans and his true colours have become ever more apparent since.

Some fans seem to think speaking up is disrespectful.

Its YOUR CLUB you put your money in so you have a right to have a fucking say.

KENWRIGHT OUT MARTINEZ OUT

Billy can't confiscate everyone's phone and what an image thousands of fans holding their phones …United with one clear message… even if you're not sure, load it anyway and be prepared. The more of us who show our disapproval, the more Chairman Bill will have to act, make no mistake he is running to the protection of the summer.

This is not a negative, destructive whim of a few disgruntled customers but a realistic, progressive 5 point plan by supporters of our Great club that despair at how it has lost its mojo:

1. This starts with removing Martinez immediately.
2. Install an interim manager for 12 months to stabalise and install discipline, professionalism and fitness in our team.
3. Secure all of our current players of benefit to the club and clear out the rest.
4. Confirm Stadium plans by the end of 2016.
5. Identify and sign a manager of pedigree, someone who is a winner and who will bring back the electric atmosphere to Goodison. This will be our most significant signing yet and we will have to offer a tempting package. Whatever it takes, to stop this slide and restore our club to a position to WIN trophies. We need a winner with a winning mentality.

It's only a plan but at least we have a plan. The board by their lack of action will give Martinez one last chance and we all know deep down that means, a survival campaign… PROTEST!
7 DAYS & COUNTING…….

We have the promise of investment, the core of a good squad and the most patient supporters in the world. Also, I have no time for Kenwright but I imagine he is a good chairman to manage for.

Martinez has wasted years here. They will soon be known as the dark days of Martinez. With the right appointment good times are ahead.

why stop at Martinez mate... surely nothing to show for a 16 year tenure should become known as "barren years Billy" lol.

Jesus and to think they use to talk about the 70's as being our barren years.

Kenwrights period has become a nightmare which until recently I thought we would never wake from. Please Moshiri, do something soon.

For once in your lives, Everton, act swiftly.

There are players who need to be replaced, moved on, signed and retained. Why have someone do that who is only here for the short term?

Identifying a manager is always going to be a gamble. I just think you have to make the call on the best info and advice available. 12 Months doesn't make that much easier.

Why did he leave Villa?

http://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2010/aug/09/martin-oneill-aston-villa.

The owner Lerner never had the same aspiration as O'Neill.

We need to allow Farhad Moshiri to settle in over the next six months, he has a lot to digest and even more issues to solve. I'm sure a change of manager, was not on the top of his list at the time of agreement but things have spiraled out of control.

We are not an attractive proposition to top managers around Europe and accept it or not, we are about to go through a process of change off the field. The fact that we have a weak, directionless playing staff, has now also got to be dealt with in the short term. 12 months is more than long enough, ask Leicester City FC. We are the polar opposite of them of course. No plan B? We have no plan, period.

Everyone of them regardless of who the manager is should be ashamed of the way they have performed or not for the last two seasons. I really feel for the fans who pay the hard-earned money to see this lot.

When a so called athlete can choose whether or not to play to standards with no punishment given to them, as in fines, then something should change in a clubs set up.

Mollycoddled, arrogant, self-centred, over-paid, spoilt, over-rated, any negative name you can come up with can be given to this sorry lot.

At least Martinez has an excuse, he actually believes in himself, deluded or not; the players have no such excuse.

But let's think about it, if the protest is during and after the Norwich game, Billy Liar will not cancel the "lap of honour" he will use it to see Evertonians arguing and fighting with one another over the protest, he thinks only what is best for himself and I doubt very much he will be at the game, he only wants the glory and the limelight, there will be none of that for him next Saturday.

I want a long and loud protest, it might seem hysterical but the future of Everton FC is at stake if the situation doesn't change from NOW. So let there be a protest but let it, if we can, be organised so we all know how, and when it will happen and in what form,

I am getting on a bit and I've still got a voice.

The more I hear, the more I like about Koeman. Although if that was the case, Lukaku would have been dropped for the last two months with half the squad!

If El Clown remains after Norwich, I may support action but only if it is likely that El Clown is getting another season. That said, I just cannot believe he will get another season... nobody in their right mind would allow that.

But, if it makes you feel better: I performed a multivariate analysis of results with and without Mcfadden in the side that featured multiple key performance indicators.

The conclusion: He was shite.

I agree, Dave. I'd like to see:
1. Nobody entering GP until 3.15 on the day (no hankies, tennis balls, placards etc needed; all shown on TV). The only organisation needed would be sufficient friendly persuaders just outside the turnstiles. Our lads would feel like they are playing away so should be 3 up by 3.15.
2. After entry at 3.15 a continuous chant of "Roberto Martinez get out of our club", while still applauding any good football from our lads (35th and 76th minutes).
3. All staying to applaud the players at the end.

I have no evidence but I will bet you a tenner he will not be manager of EFC come the start of the new season. It is only a matter of time.

The best way to protest in my opinion is NOT turning up for the last game. Are you on for the bet?

If he is still here, since you are so confident, you have to appear on Toffee TV in your kecks in August…

We'll try anything to get rid of Martinez. How about it Oliver?

After yesterdays dreadful display how can Martinez keep his job? The players need to be free of his influence also....he is ruining them with his stupid tactics and slow slow build up.

We need to to free of Martinez and Billy the Blue...the real menace!!

What's Our Name?

Next season's EPL will be a totally different competition to this. All the top five or six established clubs will have re organized. Worse still, teams that we considered smaller or perennial bottom half of the table, have overtaken us over the last two years, so we have to re-build. Make no mistake this will take time and is a gradual process and there are no proven managers at this level available.

If one suddenly becomes available over the next few weeks that's different… But are we really an interesting prospect for that calibre of manager?

However, starting to think we might be seeing the end game at last. Martinez's press conference suggested a dead-man walking, with no attempt to support his players after such a bland display. Then, the response of the away fans, along with Greg O'Keeffe's article in the Liverpool Echo - makes me think even Bill and the board can't ignore this now!

If they had any common sense, they would announce Roberto's departure well before the Norwich match - to save everyone the distress of seeing the club torn apart and an embarrassing 'lap of honour' on the day.

However, if the board haven't got the message, then we really have to be 100% solid with our chanting, booing and maybe even a mass turn-up late or leave on 78 minutes. Nothing complicated like hankies or tennis balls - just good old-fashioned protesting. For the first time I believe the clown is going before next season.....but let's face it, this is Everton - so nothing is sure! As we say, it's the hope that kills you!

Roberto is a nice guy, but clearly not he man for the job. It's sad that the board may now let him be thrown to the wolves with the lap of 'honour'!

Like most here, not sure what will happen, but not sure letting this carry on is right for any of us, Roberto included.

In the current climate I am prepared to go through a rebuild programme.

How could it be worse than what we currently have.

Those that want to stay under a new manager (whoever) stay, those who don't, go.

A new dawn may take a couple of years, but there will be hope and expectation, rather than looking over our shoulders avoiding the relegation trap door