Funes Mori not fazed by possible first Mersey derby

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As he prepares for a possible bow in his first Merseyside derby, Ramiro Funes Mori says his baptism in the cauldron of River PlateBoca Juniors clashes in Buenos Aires will have provided him with the experience he'll need on Sunday.

Everton's new 9.5m signing has already made three appearances since arriving from Argentina before the transfer deadline, including Monday's stirring 3-2 win over West Bromwich Albion, and he could be called upon again on Sunday if John Stones does not recover from a knee injury.

Stones picked up the knock against Swansea 10 days ago but was deemed fit enough to play against Reading the following Tuesday, only to be brought off early in the second half after aggravating the injury. He was absent from the match at The Hawthorns but, like team-mate Seamus Coleman, was described by Roberto Martinez as being "very close" to being passed fit that evening.

That has raised hopes that the Blues' first-choice central defensive pairing of Stones and Phil Jagielka will be restored for the clash with Liverpool this Sunday. If not, Funes Mori says he will be ready.

I played in lots of derbies [in Argentina], the 24-year-old says in the Liverpool Echo. I scored in one and we won the game.

The atmosphere of those games is very intense, the people are cheering and screaming and its crazy.

You feel the adrenaline when you play in those games. People are singing the whole 90 minutes and cheering for their team, you are very nervous and excited and its very intense at all times.

Playing in the River-Boca games means I will maybe be more comfortable playing in the derby.

Itll prepare me for them. Id expect its going to be intense and the adrenaline will be high.

More quotes at the Liverpool Echo


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Ajay Gopal
1 Posted 30/09/2015 at 18:32:42
I like the sound of this guy - he is confident, eager to play (not content to be on the bench) and not afraid. All good qualities in a CB. If we can deliver good corners consistently, I am pretty sure Stones and Funes Mori and Jags will be bundling more of them into the opposition net.

Although, I think FM will do alright if called upon in the derby, I would still prefer to see Stones (and Coleman) back.

Howard
Coleman Jagielka Stones Galloway
McCarthy Barry
Deulofeu Barkley Kone
Lukaku

Wow! On paper, it looks a real formidable line-up.

It has to be said, on paper, the best RS side also is not too shabby:

Mignolet
Clyne Skrtel Sakho Moreno
Can Henderson Milner
Coutinho
Sturridge Benteke

Interesting game, I think.

Colin Glassar
2 Posted 30/09/2015 at 18:41:42
Benteke and Henderson won't be fit in time Ajay. Also, don't they have to play on Thursday? Coutinho and/or Sturridge might pick up a knock as well.

As for Funes Mori, I thought he was very dodgy in the 1st half against WBA but settled down and played well in the 2nd half.

Les Martin
3 Posted 30/09/2015 at 18:51:49
Martinez teams of the past had a reputation of conceding goals which we still do; however, it is impressive that he has brought in young talent through the ranks and outside to strengthen the defence immediately whilst looking in the future.

I think Funes Mori will be the business and I have every confidence in him, he has a very powerful header and shot on him. It's only a matter of time before he finds his way onto the score sheet, ideally in this week's derby, please, if Stones doesn't make it.

If we can keep Sturridge quiet then we will be in for a great afternoon as their defence is a mess.
Peter Cummings
4 Posted 30/09/2015 at 18:52:05
He seems to be fitting in pretty well so far and doing a good job in defence, anyone who can survive derbies in South American cauldrons where no prisoners are taken is a definite asset in the EPL.

As for Sunday, although we are supposed to be favourites because of 'their' poor start to the season and a Europa League game tomorrow night, I for one am taking nothing for granted; the reds are not as bad as they have been painted. I just hope no-one at Goodison thinks it's a no-brainer either.

Andrew James
5 Posted 30/09/2015 at 18:55:15
We can get at them, the Orc will probably do something stupid as well so I think this could be the best opportunity to beat them since the 3-3 two seasons back.

The ones who worry me are Coutinho and Sturridge but isn't it nice knowing one Stevie Me isn't playing. He carried them through so many of our defeats by either cheating or being imperious (when he wasn't doing that he was getting sent off) so without him and their other on-field leader Henderson I wonder if they'll be very different from what we're used to being up against.

It's worth noting we haven't won a Derby since Cahill left.

Another thing I will be fascinated to see is Ross Barkley. Local lad, now gradually becoming the main man in the middle. Could this be the game where he stamps his mark on the Derbies? He's got the physique and the talent to do it...

Craig Fletcher
6 Posted 30/09/2015 at 18:59:02
Colin, so Benteke won't be back for Sunday? According to physioroom.com, Lovren, Firmino and Henderson are the only first-teamers for the RS who are definitely out. I know that website isn't gospel, but Benteke is scheduled to return for October 4.
Aidan Wade
8 Posted 30/09/2015 at 19:20:24
I had the good fortune to catch a River-Boca match (In La Boca) whilst on holiday in Argentina and as amped as the atmosphere can get in the Old Lady come Derby time, it really is Sunday League compared to the insanity of "El Classico".

The concrete upper deck undulates in waves as the whole crowd jump up and down, corner takers have two riot police holding their shields aloft to deflect the barrage of missiles thrown at opposition players (and the teams need a covered tunnet to be extended to enter/exit the pitch).

So, I don't think the crowd will bother Ramiro, Sturridge on the other hand....

Paul Avery
9 Posted 30/09/2015 at 19:52:22
I thought Funes Mori looked a bit out of his depth when asked to play the Martinez way out from the back but looked like a good get stuck in old school defender in that second half against WBA hope he learns the system quickly I reckon he will be a good signing in time.

Colin Glassar
10 Posted 30/09/2015 at 19:53:05
Sounds like he won't make it Craig. Tbh, Sturridge worries me more than Benteke.
Paul Jeronovich
11 Posted 30/09/2015 at 19:55:08
Let's do them, Blues, it's been far too long. Go at them from the first minute, no caution please, Roberto!!!!!
Michael Polley
12 Posted 30/09/2015 at 20:06:06
Derby matches against the RS are always 'touch & go' affairs, and sometimes the occasion can affect the quality of the game, but the RS are vulnerable and we need to exploit that.

Goodison will be bouncing, and I hope the players put in a shift and get a result. Eagerly awaiting the game with the usual nerves. COYB - Get stuck in!!!

Steve Jenkins
13 Posted 30/09/2015 at 20:25:16
If Stones is fit and no other injuries, there's nothing to fear with RS.

I like the look of Ajay's team, one thing that has now become pretty blatant is we need to have Kone starting; he gives us that balance, he holds the ball up with strength and a great touch, it allows us to build momentum to attack. Without him well, we get little momentum to build, West Bromwich 1st half, then after Kone came on perfect example.

Del Boy brings that magic and creates where no other player has the same danger or kind of ability that his pace and delivery out wide brings.

Ross driving from midfield with Rom ready to play off the shoulder or get on the end of anything from out wide.

We really need Rom up for this one aggressive and using his size to bully their back 4, he can be unplayable when he wants to be.

We do need to watch Courthino and Sturridge, keep them quiet, give them some extra attention – close them down, double up etc.

We do that and I fancy us strongly, we owe big time, let's go and make a statement.

Tony Hill
14 Posted 30/09/2015 at 20:27:43
I thought he did very well indeed against West Brom and looks like the type of powerful defender we've lacked. Of course, he'll take time to settle fully but I've no worries that he will be overawed on Sunday.
Dave Pritchard
15 Posted 30/09/2015 at 21:00:50
Too early to judge Funes Mori but if he plays it will be a bit of a worry as he must still be getting acclimatised to the Premier League.

All reports I've seen indicate that Benteke will not be ready for Sunday. Also Sturridge is being rested on Thursday.

Colin Williams
16 Posted 30/09/2015 at 21:02:59
Funes Mori and Galloway were the best players against the Baggies. Funes Mori should definitely play against the RedShite! This lad is pacey, physical; mentally strong, good technically; brave, great in the air and can score important goals with his aerial ability! The guy's a must for the derby! We've been waiting a while for this type of defender!

People who have slagged him off know feck all about players with ability! How can anyone say "Not sure about this guy"? Great performance. Fantastic promise from the lad. Great leadership qualities, leading by example! Top man! He put Jags in the shade against the Baggies.

Steve Jenkins
17 Posted 30/09/2015 at 21:12:22
I like the look of Funes Mori but would rather not start him yet, all players being fit. He needs time to get used to the pace of the Premier League, but looks to have the qualities.

He'd prob be fine if has to start due to injuries, but I would rather he came off the bench, if required as he was against Chelsea.

Give him to analyse and get feel for the game from the bench first. It'll be 6 months or so before he's used to the pace of the Premier League. Besic said it was the same for him.

Helen Mallon
18 Posted 30/09/2015 at 22:10:14
I would love a starting 11 in a 3-5-2 formation of:

Howard
Stones
Jagielka
Funes Mori
Coleman
McCarthy
Barkley
Barry
Galloway
Deulofeu
Lukaku.

I can dream...

Gerard Carey
19 Posted 30/09/2015 at 22:35:43
Lets just win the game, I don't care how we do it. It can be the fluke of the season still don't care. All I want to see on Monday morn is Everton: P 8, W 4, D 3, L 1, Pts 15!!!!
Craig Fletcher
20 Posted 30/09/2015 at 23:45:01
OK fingers crossed Colin (9). You're right, Sturridge is more of a threat.... but also the idea of Sturridge and Benteke up front with Coutinho just behind, I hate to say it but that's a threatening front three.
Gerry Quinn
21 Posted 01/10/2015 at 00:14:22
Everton: P 8, W 4, D 3, L 1, Pts 15!!!!!!.

Gerard #18, you missed out the GD...

A GD of +9 on Sunday lunchtime will do for me

Andrew James
23 Posted 01/10/2015 at 00:29:32
Craig - and I hope I don't regret this, but you've got Sturridge coming back from long term injury and Benteke potentially not even playing because he's further back. Yes, as a front two they are scary when switched on but both are made of glass.

Our midfield should swamp theirs and that makes me think it could hinge on defences. Our is inexperienced but doing well, theirs is suspect. So if Lukaku and Deulofeu can pick up from Monday night we are done.

But it's a derby. It'll probably be a nil-nil.

Darryl Ritchie
24 Posted 01/10/2015 at 03:41:34
I think Funes Mori, if he does get the nod, will do just fine. A local TV channel picked up a few Argentina league games a couple of years ago. The atmosphere in those games was incredibly bizarre. The stands were completely fenced off from the pitch. Because of the fencing, the teams looked like they were playing in a huge cage.

Anyone coming out that environment, is not going to be put off by anything the kopites can throw at him.

That said, If they're good to go, I want Stones and Coleman back in.

Brian Porter
25 Posted 01/10/2015 at 06:05:17
Funes Mori is okay for me. The big difference between him and Besic, Steve Jenkins #16, is that this guy is older, more experienced and is a full Argentine international! He shouldnÂ’t need 6 months to acclimatize to the PL. HeÂ’s come from a league where almost every game is played in a hostile atmosphere, and mistakes are pounced on ruthlessly, so is well placed to know what is required of him over here.

At long last, I think Martinez has actually made a very shrewd signing. Funes Mori has kind of come in under the radar of some of the big clubs, who have been paying silly money for defenders with far less ability.

I have no worries about him starting if needs must. I think he knows whatÂ’s expected of him and he had a very good game against West Brom, in my opinion. HeÂ’s going to be a very good signing, I think.

James Hughes
26 Posted 01/10/2015 at 06:56:24
Funes Mori looked calm and assured to me on Monday night; hopefully not a one off performance.

With that lot playing tonight, we need the curse of the Europa League to strike on Sunday, and we play them off the park.

Everton: P 8, W 4, D 3, L 1, Pts 15 — Looks great to me!!!

Øystein Heggelund
27 Posted 01/10/2015 at 07:34:49
Am I the only one who thought he had a bit of a shocker in that first half against the Baggies? His one big mistake aside, the decision-making was highly suspect, with too much hesitation every time he got the ball. A couple of his cross passes in the direction of Deulofeu were very poor.

In addition, there was at least one more occasion where he lost the ball in a very dangerous area, and one where he ended up the wrong side of McClean who could put in a dangerous cross.

I'm probably overly critical here. Anyway, it was good to see him toughen up in the second half and play a more direct, incisive game. He does seem to have a sweet, left foot which should be used with more confidence.

I, too, have faith in him becoming a top-class player for us, but would definitely prefer Stones back in for the derby.

Duncan McDine
28 Posted 01/10/2015 at 07:43:20
I'd go along with Ajay's lineup. That is the best player for every position on current form. However, I always fancy Nessi to score against the redshite.

As far as Funes Mori goes, I'd like him to keep things simple until he settles a bit more. Hopefully Stones will be back anyway to partner Jags (who's been back to his best lately).

On paper and form, I'd say we should beat them, but despite losing some of its intensity in recent seasons, it's still the derby!

James Marshall
29 Posted 01/10/2015 at 07:58:59
This is the most confident I've been for a derby in years. Our form is good, we don't seem to mind coming from behind (oo-er) and the RS' form is patchy at best.

They have injuries, no Henderson, Benteke on the bench at best, Sturridge not long back and obviously made of glass, Firmino has a broken bone in his back, Lovren is touch & go depending on what you read (and shit anyway) and their defence is extremely suspect. Oh and no Stevie refshite.

We should have Coleman and Stones back (fingers crossed) and it's at home so we have every reason to feel confident.

I don't make predictions but I do think we'll win this one.

Aidan Wade
30 Posted 01/10/2015 at 08:15:50
I just hope Lovren is fit.
James Marshall
31 Posted 01/10/2015 at 08:21:05
This is from some RS fansite

R Firmino – Back Injury – 2 weeks
D Lovren – Ankle/Foot Injury – 3 weeks
C Benteke – Hamstring Injury – 4 days
J Henderson – Metatarsal Fracture – 7 weeks
J Flanagan – Knee Injury – 3 months

John Daley
32 Posted 01/10/2015 at 08:28:40
Oystein @25,

I certainly thought Funes Mori looked tentative in the early part of the game but that's only to be expected when a player is finding his feet with a new team in a makeshift back four. At no time did I ever think he was approaching 'shocker' territory though.

His decision-making seemed decent enough to me. One last-ditch intervention involving a perfectly timed, well disguised, sly shove in the back to stop his opponent getting a clear sight of goal suggests he does possess some defensive nous and an awareness of danger.

As for his attempts at cross-field passes towards Deulofeu that never came off? I spent almost the entirety of the first half screaming for players to look up and switch the ball out to the right, where Deulofeu was stood all alone, in acres of space, like a guy with a slapped arse for a face giving off a future serial killer vibe at a speed dating event. Funes Mori was the only one with the awareness to recognise and attempt to remedy this, so this I'm inclined to give him a pass in regards to the fact that he overhit a couple.

Dave Abrahams
33 Posted 01/10/2015 at 08:47:47
I thought he was very good, especially as it was his first starting game in this league.

Not having a go at Jagielka, who had a good game, but twice he kicked clearances without thinking about them. One went back over his head and luckily went straight to Howard, the other he just kicked straight down the middle of the field right to a WBA player and put them back on the attack.

Funes Mori, two or three times, just whacked it straight into the crowd, giving time to regroup and face the next attack; suited me fine, he knew what he was doing and was for the good of the team at the time.

Nitesh Kanchan
34 Posted 01/10/2015 at 09:21:32
When is Mirallas coming back? Not the biggest fan but I would have loved to see him play in the derby. Mirallas, Barkley, Deulofeu, Lukaku and Kone would have been perfect to start the derby with Naismith, Lennon and Gibson coming in late or early in the second-half depending on the score.
Jim Bennings
35 Posted 01/10/2015 at 09:32:04
5 years since a derby match victory, someone also said that we have won just 4 Merseyside derbies since 1997!! For this reason alone,I will never make us favourites to beat the Redshite no matter who's in form at the time.

Yes there is not as much to fear from them; thank God Gerrard has gone after nearly 15 years of torture from that odious shit but they still have players who can hurt us.

I just hope we can soon shackle this inferiority complex we seem to have carried or rather been burdened with for years against that lot.

Paul Cherrington
36 Posted 01/10/2015 at 10:23:29
I would agree that the derby won't faze him much as the ones he has played in South America would have prepared him fine. They are much more intense and crazy so he will have experience of that type of atmosphere.

Also, he seems a mentally strong, confident character which is just what we need out there in that sort of game. Those are the sort of people who drag the team to wins even when we aren't playing well.

Also. Deulofeu must must must start and play all game — he will terrify them and is able to produce the magic to get us the points.

Patrick Murphy
37 Posted 01/10/2015 at 10:51:55
Jim (32) Haven't you just continued the 'inferiority complex' in part of your post when you write ".... I will never make us favourites to beat the Redshite no matter who's in form at the time"?

Why do we only count from 1997? Why not from the start of the Premier League era which, although not exactly a fantastic record against them, we have only lost one more game than we have won at Goodison with the rest drawn.

What are we afraid of when it comes to the other lot? We are a decent team... they are a decent team; we can score goals, so can they. As ever, what has happened yesterday doesn't matter — it is only what happens during the match at the weekend that matters. If we perform well and have the rub of the green, we have as much chance of beating them as we would playing any other opponent.

John Daley
38 Posted 01/10/2015 at 11:02:13
"What are we afraid of when it comes to the other lot? We are a decent team they are a decent team we can score goals so can they..."

Patrick,

Probably that deal they seemingly struck with Satan.

Jim Bennings
39 Posted 01/10/2015 at 11:18:20
Patrick,

I'm merely making the point that over the last 20 years we have struggled badly for wins against them, I know we had a decent record for a spell but we have witnessed too many years of letdown as Evertonians in Merseyside derbies to generally have anything but a negative outlook.

Sunday is a chance to really banish some recent poor memories such as that semi-final or the Anfield hammering; all we've had is respectful draws but we are long long overdue a proper Blue celebration on derby day.

Trevor Peers
40 Posted 01/10/2015 at 11:35:02
Cautiously optimistic is the best I can muster. If we do batter them maybe it will shift the balance of power to us for the first time since the sixties.

The Sky monies have definitely evened things out, so it's just up to the players to have that winning mentality; 1-0 will do me.

Brian Harrison
41 Posted 01/10/2015 at 11:58:58
For me, this is one of the worst games of the season; I hate it with a passion. Being a season ticket holder, I feel I have to watch the derbies at Goodison, but when we play them at their place, I never watch or listen to anything till the game has finished.

Having watched the Blues for over 60 years, these games seem to be getting to me more now than when I was younger. I think I read a stat last year that said Liverpool have won more derbies at Goodison than we have... no wonder I get paranoid about this result — and our record at Anfield is abysmal

Eugene Ruane
42 Posted 01/10/2015 at 12:04:40
The most frustrating thing (for me) about our recent record and performances against Liverpool is they're not actually 'Liverpool.'

At best they're Spurs (and an injury to Sturridge and they're Villa or Stoke).

The reality is Liverpool haven't been 'Liverpool' for fucking years now.

All the stuff they did (or had) that made them successful for years, they simply don't do (or have) anymore.

They used to do the canny purchasing of the occasional player, carefully introduced who wouldn't rock the boat and would fit in to a very simple but effective system.

Now it's millions of pounds thrown at all sorts of bums and mercenaries who come and go (not to mention the 30 odd out on loan).

There was always a good few local fellers, a few scots and managers who were in touch with the support and understood how to harness the working-class 'vibe' of the place.

That's all gone and the place is now basically a football tourist destination (I have red mates who have all but given up on them because of what they have become).

Consistency - gone.

A kop full of rabid scousers - gone.

Boot room - gone (cheers Souness!).

We should now be taking advantage, we should refer to them as Stoke, we should get over any psychological nonsense about them being 'Liverpool' because they patently aren't.

Up the Toffees!

Jim Bennings
45 Posted 01/10/2015 at 12:17:51
Great post, Eugene.

The most frustrating thing about so many Merseyside derbies of recent years is we have made very average Liverpool teams look good.

Yes, some of it's luck but most of it is down to the mentality. I'm actually embarrassed by our failures over the last 16 year's at Anfield, not to beat what has on more than one occasion we have been there, a poor Liverpool side.

Dave Pritchard
46 Posted 01/10/2015 at 12:22:47
All very good points, Eugene. I am still not confident of a victory for us though as it is so hard to rid myself of the memories of past matches. Maybe one good win over them can be the start of a period of dominance for us. Let the healing begin this Sunday.
Victor Jones
47 Posted 01/10/2015 at 12:30:04
Sorry Helen, your team of 3-5-2 is IMO unbalanced. No midfield. No real attacking threat. No balance. We don't need so many centre backs and DMFs. We need fire power. We need to take this game to Liverpool. We score a few goals, then we win this match. We can stiffle them with a flat back four and a solid midfield. And Kone alongside Lukaku can cause them problems. And Barkley and Delboy bossing the game.Cannot wait for Sunday. This is our time. Turn our good start into a great start. A bloody great start. COYBs.
Tony J Williams
48 Posted 01/10/2015 at 12:48:21
If Funes Mori plays, I hope he just goes right through Sturridge within 2 minutes then twats Coutinho the next minute.

Gets an obligatory telling off, perhaps a card but the shite are now without the only two players that should cause us any trouble.

Then bring Stones on at half time to stop him being sent off.

Christopher Wallace
49 Posted 01/10/2015 at 12:49:04
Great analysis, Eugene!

Another positive is the young talented players on our side that will hopefully have the fear and respect towards that pathetic excuse for a team that they deserve — NONE!!

We need to hit them early and hit them hard. Get them on the back foot and keep them there. Plenty of quick, incisive passing, like the Chelsea game. Also, lots of crosses — Lovren and Mignolet are calamitous. Skrtel can't always get away with his judo exhibitions in box. Sakho has the agility of a giraffe in quicksand when he's on the ball — get about him as much as possible.

The fans have a huge part to play here, well before the first whistle.

Let's do these bastards, and do them properly!

Tony J Williams
50 Posted 01/10/2015 at 12:50:17
Oh in regards to Funes Mori's performance on Monday, at no time did I think he looked like a liability and I am glad he reverted to safety first on occasion.

They can't score with the ball in Row Z.

No idea where the bizarre idea of him having close to a "shocker" came from!

Victor Jones
51 Posted 01/10/2015 at 12:52:06
Last comment. To all at Everton (should any of you read this). Try not to go a goal behind. Get on the front foot right from the start. Front foot. Front foot. Give them no time to settle. No time to play their game.

No need for us to throw the kitchen sink at them around the 70th minute.(like we usually have to do). Win this game early. They are not that good. And please do not revert to tippy-tappy. Front foot. Front foot. At all times.

And remember also that Gibson can make a forward pass. We have options. Which is good.

Paul Cherrington
52 Posted 01/10/2015 at 12:57:44
Funes Mori is looking a very good player to me and I think this idea that he didn't have a decent game the other night is daft.

You can tell he has quality and is the part just be looking at how he moves round the pitch and the aura he gives off.
John Keating
53 Posted 01/10/2015 at 12:57:52
For years now it's been more of a "mental" thing when we play the RS. Form, league lacings have been immaterial. Hopefully we can start putting this right on Sunday.

On a slightly different topic, I can't remember us having such a big team on the park. Apart from Deulofeu, and in the last few minutes Lennon, all the lads must have been 6 foot plus.

Tony Abrahams
54 Posted 01/10/2015 at 13:07:19
You can talk a lot of sense sometimes Eugene, great post that.

I remember coming out of Goodison when we beat them two-nil, in Hodgson's only derby match. I know it's always great to beat Liverpool, but I honestly couldn't understand the hysterics of Evertonians.

They were fucking shite, and I was fuming that we hadn't gone for the jugular when Arteta scored the second goal. I think it's the only time in my life I've never been overjoyed at beating them and I just kept wishing that we still had a Peter Reid in our team. We would have won five-nil that day if we had, but I will take two-nil on Sunday, if only to keep Rodgers in his job!!!!!

Ray Roche
55 Posted 01/10/2015 at 13:12:39
Eugene (#38)

"The place is now basically a football tourist destination". So true. I read recently that Man Utd and the Shite prefer not to have as many season tickets for real fans as they could because they rely on the tourists who spend money in the club shops.

When you look at the "supporters" on TV, half of them are Japanese wearing bobble hats, scarves and rosettes. It's like us when we were kids in the... er... fifties. You never see a blue wearing a rosette and carrying a rattle these days, do you?

Matt Ostnes
56 Posted 01/10/2015 at 13:17:06
Ramiro never lost a derby match in his career and he plays those matches with insanity levels off the charts. He will provide "winning mentality" but also could receive a red card at 30 minutes in the first half.

In one "Superclasico", Funes Mori was attacked with a homemade pepper spray before the start of the second half so, unless Liverpool fans goes on berserker mode (?), he will be fine.

Christopher Wallace
57 Posted 01/10/2015 at 13:21:05
Tony 45,

I hear ya. I'll settle for 1-0 at the final whistle but not now – they are there for the taking and we have a great opportunity to hammer them into the ground.

RS fans are full of the fear and trepidation that usually percolates amongst our fans coming into these games. We need a wave of optimism and positivity in the stands before the game. We need the players to come out with the same attitude, and let the fans and players play off each other from the get-go... as it should always be.

I'm buzzing for this one!!

Dave Southword
58 Posted 01/10/2015 at 13:23:46
I expect Funes Mori will do just fine if called upon. The WBA will have helped in that regard.

With no Gerrard, Henderson or Carragher, any idea who will be assigned to kick Deulofeu back into the changing rooms in the first 5 mins? It's the only chance they have.

Richard Lyons
59 Posted 01/10/2015 at 13:26:31
Andrew @5 – who is "the Orc"? I'm guessing it's Skrtl?

Personally I'd like to see Gibson again, I thought he was really good against West Brom and I think he'd add the extra dimension we'll need against the RS.

As for Funes Mori – it's great he's settling in so well and won't be fazed by the derby atmosphere, it shows we're building a decent squad... but I'd prefer to see Stones & Jags as the centre halves.

Brin Williams
60 Posted 01/10/2015 at 13:31:38
RR 46 "You never see a blue wearing a rosette and carrying a rattle these days, do you?'

No, but I've seen a couple of dummies up there in the Directors Box!!

Sam Hoare
61 Posted 01/10/2015 at 13:41:20
They still have a very solid team and I think it will be a close match. We will have to want it more than them and show more fight.

A lot will depend on whose strikers are on form and if the good Sturridge and shabby Lukaku show up then we will struggle. Hopefully it's the other way around.

Time to turn a good start to the season into a great one.

Harold Matthews
62 Posted 01/10/2015 at 13:41:59
Sorry Dave A, Jags didn't perform to his usual high standard. Half a yard off the pace and slightly slow in his decision-making throughout. I love the lad but he was either very tired or carrying a knock and not able to take a few days off.

In his two previous games, he made massive last-ditch blocks which left him lying on the floor on a couple of occasions. Unfortunately, with Stones and Coleman out, he had to play even if he wasn't quite 100%, which I don't believe he was. Let's hope he's back to his best for the derby.

Mr Atkinson is not our favourite ref but he might be okay for this one. I've watched him a couple of times this season and his efforts to keep the game flowing handed a big advantage to the more physical side. Personally, I would rough up Sturridge right from the kick-off. He hates it. What we must not do is give him or Courtino half a yard of space around the edge of the box.

At the other end, they will be terrified of Deulofeu and Lukaku. Three goals against West Brom is no mean feat and it should have been five or six. Paul Merson reckons it will be a high scoring game and he might well be right. Both teams will have good chances and we'll need to be very clinical.

As for Funes Mori, he trains and plays with Lionel Messi and Kun Aguero and they would soon complain if he wasn't up to scratch. Settling into a new culture, a new football philosophy can't be easy and, all things considered, he did a very good job the other day.

Hugh Jenkins
63 Posted 01/10/2015 at 13:48:58
Eugene (#38), I think you have clearly shown that the factors that were first introduced by Shankly and then used by the RS over the next 50 years to establish their "Brand" have well and truly been swept away in the last five years, or so.

Another factor arising from the emergence of our "Golden Generation", is, few of the players, if any that start for us on Sunday will have experienced the demoralising defeats year on year that some of our other sides have suffered in the past. Because of that, and undoubtedly because of RM's attitude, they are unlikely to emerge from the tunnel on Sunday with a lack of self-belief and expecting to be beaten.

Sam Hoare
64 Posted 01/10/2015 at 14:13:36
I wonder how long it might be till Stones and Funes Mori are our first pick CB pairing? I love Jags but think these two could be the future (if JS sticks around).
Brian Cleveland
65 Posted 01/10/2015 at 14:29:28
Eugene, thanks for putting into words what I have been thinking but too lazy to write!

Yes, the players need to realise this, shatter the illusion that they have some kind of aura, they no longer do. Now get out there blues and show us what you can do from the KO, not just the last half hour!

Matthew Williams
66 Posted 01/10/2015 at 15:01:22
Eugene's nailed it again! The RS are now looking like a mid-table side. We need to get over our mental barrier of beating these bog-standard bastards.

If we can do that the next step is believing we can compete with the best and finally start bagging Cups. I'm sure Kingy will be smiling down on us Sunday. Time to do 'em good and proper like!

COYB
Paul Smith
67 Posted 01/10/2015 at 15:12:06
My team for Sunday is as follows assuming all fit:

Howard
Coleman
Stones
Jagielka
Galloway
Lennon
McCarthy
Barry
Barkley
Deulofeu
Lukaku

Subs: Robles, Funes Mori, Gibson, Osman, Naismith, Kone, Browning.

I feel our best chance is to get down the flanks and attack their centre-backs if as expected they play 3 at the back.

Steve Brown
68 Posted 01/10/2015 at 15:57:22
Eugene, bang on the money and brilliantly articulated. Can we finally put our inferiority complex to bed and do to them what we have done to Chelsea, Man Utd and Arsenal in the last three years — bury them!
Shane Corcoran
69 Posted 01/10/2015 at 16:11:58
Eugene and Ray, I'm not having a go but your posts raise a question in my head that I've put to TW before.

You talk about tourists at Anfield and "real supporters" and I have no problem with that. I'm not from Merseyside and so I wouldn't consider myself as much a fan of Everton as fans from the area are.

I've tried to put myself in the shoes of an Evertonian from Merseyside, i.e. if I supported my local club and then all of a sudden (or gradually) people from all over the globe became fans of "my" club, how would I feel. I reckon I'd probably resent them.

However, the feedback I got previously from TW was that all blues are welcome regardless of where they come from which seems to be at odds with the view on here of Liverpool fans. Norway always gets a mention as well as Japan on this thread.

Sorry for hijacking the thread but would some of you not just tell me that I'm nothing but a blow-in so I can put this to bed?

If I referred to Everton as "we" over here I'd be asked who this "we" is and how I could consider myself part of what is a club I have no actual connection with.

James Marshall
70 Posted 01/10/2015 at 16:17:41
Shane, I'm not from Liverpool either... but, having been a blue for about 35 of my 42 years, I feel just as much (at least to me) part of Everton as anyone from the area.

I've been going to Goodison for 30 years, I have a southern accent and do sometimes get a few looks in pubs, especially when we're playing London teams (home or away). I never let it get in the way, and have met loads of great people home & away (and abroad) who are scousers as well as from other parts of the UK and always felt like part of the family (for want of a better phrase).

I think the difference being pointed out above, is the amount of 'nu-fans' clubs like the RS and Man Utd rely on these days.

We (Everton) don't have that same level of worldwide support, and are very much a British supported team as far as I can tell.

Some of our most loved players have been from various other parts of the UK, including London and the south.

Brin Williams
71 Posted 01/10/2015 at 16:34:09
Shane,

To answer your question: If Everton has touched you – you are an Evertonian – no doubt about that mate.

I live 90 miles away but it doesn't matter if it's 90, 900, or 9,000. If you feel it in your heart – you're one of us.

By the way, I thought that Western they named after you was brilliant – Audy Murphy – must have been Irish!!

John Daley
72 Posted 01/10/2015 at 16:49:11
"...the amount of 'nu-fans' clubs like the RS and Man Utd rely on these days."

Now, now. Some fans take to it like ducks to water or Mancs to... err... glue.

If only everyone made the effort of this fine fellow. He may look like something Doc Brown sent back to the future from the 'Boys From The Black Stuff' era but this guy is actually a Belgian seeking to blend in with his RS brethren... by looking like a slack jawed Deliverance-style mountain man who would sooner make you squeal like a piggy than reveal he couldn't even spell his own name if you wrote it down and asked him to copy it.

Link

John Daley
73 Posted 01/10/2015 at 16:51:44
Link gone haywire. Try again:

Link

Duncan McDine
74 Posted 01/10/2015 at 17:23:04
Thats hilarious, John! Turns into Road Runner at the end... A good advert for Belgian beer though.
Ray Roche
75 Posted 01/10/2015 at 17:24:13
Shane Corcoran (#60),

I think you've misinterpreted my post or my English is so bad I've not explained myself properly. My point was that at Man Utd and Mordor they artificially reduce the number of season tickets for their own fans in order to entice the tourist and corporate sector.

Many of the "one time visitors" are not really fans at all, just there to have the experience of a Premier League match and, just like we might do in, say, the Florida Keys, buy a load of tee shirts etc. to show we've been there. LFC and MUFC will just LOVE all that dosh kerchinging into their tills.

They arrive by bus, watch the match, and then bugger off to Stratford-on-Avon to become Shakespeare fans for rest of the day.

I very much doubt that you're in THAT category. Of course, we have fans all over the world who, for whatever reason, have been touched by Everton and can be as fanatical as any of us but, for one reason or another, will never be able to come to Goodison, sadly. They'll still be one of us though.

Ray Roche
76 Posted 01/10/2015 at 17:29:33
Incidentally, Shane, a couple of years ago I was shopping in town and, before going home (to Wales, by the way) we went for an Italian meal to save cooking at home.

It was about 6 o'clock and minutes after we went in hordes of... yes, Norwegians, flooded in. They'd been to Anfield and were all decked out in the badges and other crap that is so popular across the Park. It was quite funny to see, all with a sort of sing song voice when ordering their snap.

James Marshall
77 Posted 01/10/2015 at 17:32:57
I used to work for a Norwegian company, and I can tell you they're genuinely lovely people. They were unfortunately all Chelsea fans though.
Dave Abrahams
78 Posted 01/10/2015 at 17:38:35
Harold (54), so if Stones is fit on Saturday, would you play him instead of Jagielka, or would you put Funes Mori on the bench?.
Duncan McDine
79 Posted 01/10/2015 at 17:39:28
Ray, that sing song from the Norwegians must have made you feel like you were back home in the valleys then!

Lets not kid ourselves, our board would be doing cartwheels if we enticed coach loads of foreigners to spend their hard-earned in one of our two (just two!) shops!

David Torpey
82 Posted 01/10/2015 at 17:49:44
If I were the RedSshite (heaven forbid), I would be soiling myself at prospect of facing us now.
Ray Roche
83 Posted 01/10/2015 at 17:54:46
Duncan (#73), I'm a born and bred scouser, well, from Roby anyway, and I'm here because, in the words of Jimmy Buffet, there's a woman to blame.

James (#71),

I've been to Norway and, yes, they were lovely people with some of the most attractive women I've ever seen. Bloody expensive though!

Eugene Ruane
84 Posted 01/10/2015 at 18:04:01
Shane (60) – The difference is simply between being a 'supporter' (an Evertonian) and being a football tourist (literally a tourist).

For me being an Evertonian doesn't mean being from Liverpool or having a season-ticket, it is simply a state-of-mind (I have many mates who are genuine 100% blues, who aren't from Liverpool).

Can the whole thing be defined?

Probably not....but I'll give it a go.

A football tourist buys a red scarf and goes to Anfield (to the 'world famous Kop'). 'His team' lose 4-0 but it has little effect on his mental state or the pit of his stomach. He's basically over the result in a few minutes and now his mind is on going to The Cavern and/or buying another 250 nicker's-worth of Beatles' tat.

The Evertonian on the other hand, no matter where he's/she's from (or where he/she is), hears we lost 4-0 and doesn't choose to be depressed or have a shitty empty feeling in his/her guts – it just happens... naturally (so to speak).

That's (kind of) the difference.

By the way, much of what I've written has come from red mates, I have four mates who (apart from the occasional game) have knocked it on the head. They genuinely despise what they have become and (to use a bit of Sky bollocks) their 'match-going experience.'

James Marshall
85 Posted 01/10/2015 at 18:08:04
Ray - I never paid for a Norwegian woman so I wouldn't know......the beer, mind...
Ray Roche
86 Posted 01/10/2015 at 18:11:58
Christ, James, I've just realised how my post reads...I don't think I'd have got away with it, though, "er indoors" was watching my every move...
Peter Laing
87 Posted 01/10/2015 at 18:21:58
This is probably one of the worst Liverpool teams in decades, they have a Manager perilously close to the edge and have lost the heartbeat of the team in Gerrard who for all his detestable antics over the years has been a constant thorn in our side.

I am with Eugene on this, we need to get over the inferiority complex that has existed for far too long and begin to treat Liverpool like any other middle of the road team.

If Roberto gets it right, and there is no reason at present to believe that he won't – we could become the dominant force in Liverpool over the next few years. COYBB FTRS!!!!

Hugh Jenkins
88 Posted 01/10/2015 at 19:03:38
Brin (#65). In case you should happen to refer to the film "Shane" at some future time, you may like to know that the star of that particular film and the man who took the title role was Alan Ladd - not Audie Murphy.
Dave Lynch
89 Posted 01/10/2015 at 19:06:12
No good trying to cover your tracks now, Ray.

I hope she was worth every penny...

Brin Williams
90 Posted 01/10/2015 at 19:28:13
Hugh 80 'Ouch'

How could I have said that.

Alan Ladd – boyhood hero – and Audy Murphy the star of 'To Hell and Back' with how many Purple Hearts. How did I get that wrong?

Both legends of course – like Dixie and the Golden Vision.

Peter Mills
91 Posted 01/10/2015 at 19:41:18
I'm sorry, I'm having none of this upbeat nonsense. Whenever I have allowed the faintest hint of optimism into my soul prior to a derby, it has been dashed to pieces come the game.

We are doomed on Sunday.

Shane Corcoran
92 Posted 01/10/2015 at 19:54:56
Interesting replies to the question I posed. But it still doesn't all stack up.

We're constantly complaining about the PR and marketing at Everton. We should have gone to Australia when we had Cahill etc. Wouldn't Everton end up with these tourist fans then? And don't we probably have a few of them already?

Also, I don't mean to offend anyone but the whole "when Everton touches you" can be applied anywhere.

I'd be confident enough that fans of Newcastle, West Ham and Villa all reckon they've been touched by their club and it'll never leave them. Don't get me wrong, I'm massively in to the Blues and I jump and scream at every kick when I'm watching. But hours later when the dust is settled I realise I support them for no logical reason and I could easily have supported.........say it quietly......ok, I won't say, but you know what I mean. Sorry.

Shane Corcoran
93 Posted 01/10/2015 at 19:58:34
Brin, until I read Hugh's post I had no idea what you were on about, even after a google search.

I watched the film recently. Let's say it hasn't aged well. Some funny fighting scenes though. You know real fighting, not like in the EPL when they think they've been hit.

Tony Hill
94 Posted 01/10/2015 at 20:11:13
Dave (52), I'm actually quite concerned that they'll try to nobble Gerry. He needs a minder. Ratboy did it to Mirallas a few years ago in the 2-2 when Kev was causing havoc.
Jay Harris
95 Posted 01/10/2015 at 20:31:06
Tony,

With Henderson, Gerrard, Carra and Moreno out, the only nutters they've got are Skrtl and Lucas. Rom and Macca will take care of them.

The only balancing factor will be the referee; as is usual with them, we will be playing 12 men.

Barry McNally
96 Posted 01/10/2015 at 20:40:47
Anyone see the Monaco v Tottenham game? I see Lacina Traore got 67 odd mins, how did he do?
Harold Matthews
97 Posted 01/10/2015 at 21:59:49
Dave A. Definitely Stones and Jags Dave. In fact, I'm beginning to think Jags is very comfortable on the left side. For starters, his right footed sideways passes to Stones are more easily accomplished and he does have the support of Barry and Galloway.

On the other hand, no matter where he plays his defending at set pieces is not particularly brilliant. By the time he has told everyone where to stand he usually finds himself in no-man's land.

Funes Mori looks a decent old-fashioned CB who is good in the air and likes to give it the boot but I'm not yet ready to face anyone without Jags. Hopefully he just had an off day against the Baggies. We'll see.

I can never be optimistic about Everton. We ship soft goals and miss easy chances. Every win is a shock to my system. Looking at this season's results we really should be sitting on top with the whole world talking about us. Now wouldn't that be something?

We're a quality outfit. No doubt about it, but we do have spells like the first half the other day when the forwards lose possession and the defence goes asleep.

As for the derby. Eugene #40 is spot on. The real Liverpool are long gone. They are now Spurs with a worse defence. I hope we take our chances.

Jamie Crowley
98 Posted 01/10/2015 at 22:12:15
I have to "hear! hear!" Eugene's post at 76!!!

As an American who was "chosen" 9 years ago I (very much inexplicably) live, die, eat, breath, and shit Everton.

So when Eugene says:

For me being an Evertonian doesn't mean being from Liverpool or having a season-ticket, it is simply a state-of-mind (I have many mates who are genuine 100% blues, who aren't from Liverpool).

I say nail meet head.

There are SO many human beings out there that ARE "sporting tourists" and they make me sick.

There are some of us on the periphery who aren't from Liverpool that just love the Club. Again, for whatever reason I'm honestly not sure.

But it is very, very nice to read a post from someone I consider an absolute 100% Blue nail my personal situation spot on.

Also, and I've said this in the past, as an "adopted" Blue I think it's imperative that those of us who are "adopted" listen to and respect all of the opinions of the "dye-in-the-wool" Blues.

A born and bred Blue friend of mine from Liverpool whom I watch games with here in the States recently said, when I banged on about hating Kenwright - "it's a shame these new-found fans don't understand the ethos and make-up of our Club."

Of course I argued my anti-Kenwright stance with him, but...

I completely respect him saying that and he has a RIGHT to. If I listen, I may actually learn a thing or two... from a "lifer".

I think part of the package when you're an "adopted" fan of any team (in it for life mind you) is that you really can't get shitty with the "dye-in-the-wool" fan - read "Blue" in this instance.

They've earned the right to say to me, and any other "adopted" Blue, whatever they want. It's in their DNA and the fabric of their person.

My two cents worth...

Great post Eugene.

Now lets batter those fuckers this weekend.

Jamie Crowley
99 Posted 01/10/2015 at 22:17:02
Oh.. and...

There is absolutely NOTHING wrong whatsoever with a Liverpool based Blue saying that Liverpool isn't "Liverpool" any more.

They aren't Liverpool's team. Norwegians in their masses being "tourists" as Eugene rightly points out, smattered with mis-guided locals...

Any "adopted" or "removed" Blue taking offense to that is missing the point from the perspective of the Liverpool based Blue.

And any "adopted" Blue taking offense to that is, in my opinion, way too sensitive.

Tony McNulty
100 Posted 01/10/2015 at 22:23:37
It's simple: Evertonians are touched by the club. RS fans (exemplified by John Daley's mate on YouTube) are touched in the head.
Colin Glassar
101 Posted 01/10/2015 at 22:33:51
Despite my intense dislike of the RS, I find it a bit sad seeing how quickly they are spiralling down the toilet. I'd rather see them in quicksand or in a mud pool i.e. watch them drown nice and slowly.

I do miss the glory days of the 80s when Merseyside reigned supreme in the football world but that night in Belgium, and their attitude afterwards, changed everything for me, so fuck 'em. I hope they go bust and get relegated!!

Antony Matthews
102 Posted 01/10/2015 at 22:46:15
My team, for what it's worth, is:

Howard, Coleman, Galloway, Jagielka, Stones, Barry, McCarthy, Barkley, Lukaku, Naismith, Lennon.

Subs: Robles, Funes Mori, Deulofeu, Kone, Browning.

Picking Naismith might be controversial but to me he's a big game player and tends to save his best in the big matches. He's also scored before against the dark side which may mean he could be a Timmy in disguise. Put Del on for Barks if he has another off-day.

Brent Stephens
103 Posted 01/10/2015 at 22:46:59
Colin "Despite my intense dislike of the RS, I find it a bit sad seeing how quickly they are spiralling down the toilet. I'd rather see them in quicksand or in a mud pool i.e. watch them drown nice and slowly."

In which case, scrap my thoughts of 4 goals in the first 10 minutes on Sunday – it will have to be one every 20 minutes!

Charles Cook
104 Posted 01/10/2015 at 23:13:57
I see your logic about Nais and big games, Antony, but my memory of him replacing Mirallas at Anfield last season and stinking the place out reminds me of the other distinct possibility with him.

Barkley's off-days are interesting in that they're not anywhere near as off as they once were – his overall levels have improved to thankfully support his on-blob games... He's amongst the last players I'd be thinking of taking off – at least at this point. Build around your best players, is my thought.

Dave Pritchard
105 Posted 01/10/2015 at 23:17:11
If Stones and Coleman are fit, they must surely come back in to the team for Funes Mori and Browning. Not that those two have let us down, far from it, but the other two are better players.

The other change would be Kone for Naismith as I think Kone offers more creativity. Maybe Nais can come on after 5 minutes and get a hat-trick.

Ernie Baywood
106 Posted 01/10/2015 at 23:50:27
My confidence ahead of derbies seems to be inversely related to our actual prospects. I'm feeling nervous. It would be very Everton to get done by the only two decent players they have and fail to punish the rubbish they've assembled.

Call me negative and defeatist by all means.

Minik Hansen
107 Posted 02/10/2015 at 00:19:58
Funes Mori looks to step up in big games like the cameo appearance against Chelsea.

Either him or Stones, I have confidence that they will turn up real good.

Mark Andersson
108 Posted 02/10/2015 at 02:40:09
Brilliant reading guys. I was born a blue and will die a blue and come back a blue.

As for the derby it's all been said and felt. Martinez will win back most his detractors if he masterminds a good win.

We can and will do it.

Laurie Hartley
109 Posted 02/10/2015 at 02:49:34
I hate to admit it but I am really glad Gerrard won't be playing. He made the difference for them in so many derbies.

I would like to see our own local lad Ross Barkley take on that role for Everton. He certainly has the potential. Can you imagine if he scores the first goal on Sunday – Goodison will turn into a mad house – that would rattle them. As Eugene has posted – they are nowhere near the level of the "real" red teams we have to face in bygone years.

Up the Blues!

Phil Sammon
110 Posted 02/10/2015 at 03:04:03
Liverpool are a team in crisis languishing on 11 points after 7 games.

Meanwhile Everton have enjoyed an impressive start to the season flying high on 12 points from 7 games.

Hmm, something's not right.

Paul Kelly
111 Posted 02/10/2015 at 05:04:10
Shane, I think it can be said also, that a lot of people are glory hunting with regards to other teams. You sir, or anyone else who chooses/chosen to be a Blue are 1000% definitely not glory hunting... as 20-odd years with out jack shit to show for it would testify.

So, in essence, you're probably here for the long run but the clowns who visit for the weekend probably go home, throw a dart at a map and see who they are supporting next week.

Ajay Gopal
112 Posted 01/10/2015 at 05:53:33
Thanks for clarifying that, Ray (#66). Hoping to make it to Goodison for my 50th next year (that would be my 1st visit to the holy ground).
Mark Andersson
113 Posted 02/10/2015 at 06:53:43
12 points from 21 is not good. But better than most predicted, The team have improved from last season. Liverpool always spend heavily and are expected to do better than they are.

It's still anyone's guess who comes out on top of this encounter, but the crowd have a big influence so let's hope they too are in form.

Dave Pritchard
114 Posted 02/10/2015 at 07:19:50
Reality check there from Phil 104. However, I do feel that we have been better than them this season and are better than them. Doesn't always, in fact in derbies rarely does, mean we will win.
Andrew Clare
115 Posted 02/10/2015 at 07:25:29
Phil #104,
It's all about expectations.
James Marshall
116 Posted 02/10/2015 at 09:03:11
I think the issue with the RS isn't their 11 points from 7 games, it's the manner of their play. They're utter shite and got lucky against a poor Villa side last week.

After 8 games they'll still only have 11 points as well.

Tony J Williams
117 Posted 02/10/2015 at 09:48:47
Phil, I don't think anyone really thinks that we are "flying high"

Credible draw against Spurs and good win at Saints & Chelski. The other games, not so great but managed points.

I hate the derby, always have, even when we went on a non-losing streak for a number of seasons. It always seems that no matter how shite they are, they manage to get themselves up for it but our players shit themselves and surrender.

With Stevie Me Laaa (no forehead) gone, hopefully they will be missing that certain something that sparks a team to fight for the bragging rights; hopefully Barkley can take over that mantle now.

Colin Williams
118 Posted 02/10/2015 at 10:02:51
Very difficult game on Sunday... I believe if the spine of the team can perform together (eg 7/10 min per man), we will win. Although I have a bad feeling that won't happen. We have too many central players who are just to inconsistent... especially our goalkeeper who needs to be dominant within the 18-yard box, and his kicking / throwing needs to improve... I can't see that happening!

I believe Jags and Lukaku need more consistency within their bread-and-butter thirds of the pitch (Jags, first third.. Lukaku, Last third). I believe, IF this happens, we will celebrate with a great victory over the mediocre RedShite.

James Martin
119 Posted 02/10/2015 at 10:45:24
If they were still playing 4-3-3 with Benteke upfront, I'd be confident of winning easily. Sturridge and Ings is a trick Rodgers has stumbled on but seems to be having some joy out of. It's turned their defence to rubbish but means they can now score.

They weren't much better than Norwich or Villa but their kick-and-rush style to two quick front men just seems to bewilder opposition defences a bit like they did in 13-14. With our keeper and a potentially makeshift back four that has been conceding it's fair share as well, I'm not massively confident.

Saying that, we have firepower ourselves and should do well if Deulofeu is given time and space against a three-man attack.

Peter Barry
120 Posted 02/10/2015 at 10:49:43
Our problem is that, bad as the RS play, we always seem to play worse.
James Hughes
121 Posted 02/10/2015 at 11:39:45
I am really looking forward to this one, we seem to be slowly getting back to the great football of El Bob's first season and last night the RS again played poorly.

I always look forward to them and they bring back good memories of the abuse and banter of school days in Walton (also at comprehensive). Then finally being able to claim bragging rights after Mr King's amazing goal in '78

Let's give them a 3-goal beating this weekend please and maybe one day they will understand why we call them shite!!

COYB

Eugene Ruane
122 Posted 02/10/2015 at 11:42:25
Just a 'for your consideration'...

Re any us/them comparison, it's fair to say neither side have 'set the football world alight' in recent years, but never forget the difference in money.

In recent years they have carried on like pissed up sailors in a Thai knocking shop. They've thrown hundreds of millions at their 'project' and it has got them fucking nowhere.

We are only a point better off right now and there's a long way to go, but worth remembering that, whatever our 12 points have cost us (transfers, wages agent fees etc), they have spent 4/5 times more... to have a point less.

Sam Hoare
123 Posted 02/10/2015 at 11:43:01
Shame Sturridge is fit. Good movement is something our defence struggles with.

Never feel optimistic about derbies but am feeling relatively calm about this one. RM says Coleman and Stones are still doubts but I reckon if needed Browning and Mori would cope well.

COYB

Helen Walters
124 Posted 02/10/2015 at 12:00:01
There has been talk on here about whether you're a true "blue"
This is my first full season as an Everton supporter (and I'm from the south) and the Sunday game is getting me excited.

I was offered double time overtime on Sunday which I have declined as they wouldn't let me leave at 2 to see the second half.

My poor man has been a nervous wreck since Tuesday.

My next visit to Goodison is for the Villa match with my daughter who has requested this for her 18th birthday present.

COYB

Colin Williams
125 Posted 02/10/2015 at 12:08:24
Great stuff, Helen!! "Luv tha!"
Ian Reed
127 Posted 02/10/2015 at 12:41:41
Atkinson as the ref worries me. If he tries to make himself the star of the show it will inevitably be at our expense. Too many of these derbies have been ruined by the man in the middle in recent years.

That said, Eugene's spot on as usual. They're low on confidence and cohesion and we need to go at them from the whistle. Get the ball forward quickly and let Lukaku and Deulofeu make their back four fill their britches.

Paul Baker
128 Posted 02/10/2015 at 14:04:38
Keeping Coutinho and Sturridge quiet is absolutely key not to lose this one. Sterling and Stevie G are no longer there and apart from the former two, there's no-one in this LFC team who can 'make the difference'. I'm not fazed by Benteke, Ings, Lallana or even Ibe, they're not what you'd call 'game changers' by any means.

As for the formation: I woudn't ever make experiments in a game like this. Let's stick with Roberto's preferred 4-2-3-1, needless to say the personnel picks itself:

Howard
Coleman (Stones), Stones (Jagielka), Jagielka (Funes Mori), Galloway
Barry, McCarthy
Deulofeu (fully deserves a start), Barkley, Koné
Lukaku

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Steve Jenkins
129 Posted 02/10/2015 at 14:22:52
Forget what's gone before in derbies; different sides, different times. A winning mentality needs to change and that includes with the fans; there's jack to fear with the RS this year.

Suarez gone, Sterling gone, Stevie G gone, Carragher gone, their one leader left Henderson injured.

Go out and give it to them, keep their 2/3 danger players quiet, pack up when they're attacking and hit them on the break.

We have enough quality to win this and win it well if our boys turn up with a fearless attitude.

Charles Brewer
130 Posted 02/10/2015 at 17:30:21
Headline: "Rodgers says there is "no more or less pressure".

He's no more comprehensible than Dalgleish was!

Robin Cannon
131 Posted 03/10/2015 at 03:17:54
"Do you want to get up at 7am on Sunday and go to the bar?"

"Sure."

Here in Texas, I think I've found a girl who's a keeper.

Phil Sammon
132 Posted 03/10/2015 at 05:30:35
Kick off is 11:30pm on Sunday night for me now thanks to daylights savings. Anything but a win and Monday won't be pretty.
Eugene Ruane
133 Posted 05/10/2015 at 15:25:27
Been bugging me who he looks like.

Then it hit me.

Link

Link

(specially in the barber and/or low-flow shower head episodes)


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