The League has considered submissions from the club regarding the Iranian-born billionaire's proposed investment and have now given the deal the go-ahead.
Moshiri sold a 15% holding in rivals Arsenal to his long-time business partner Alisher Usmanov last month to pave the way to becoming Everton's largest shareholder.
His arrival sees Chairman Bill Kenwright and Jon Woods each sell a 13% stake in the club.
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1 Posted 08/03/2016 at 16:58:18
2 Posted 08/03/2016 at 17:00:49
3 Posted 08/03/2016 at 17:02:09
4 Posted 08/03/2016 at 17:19:02
5 Posted 08/03/2016 at 17:21:17
6 Posted 08/03/2016 at 17:35:15
New investment for players, and the stadium issue will be in our minds.
I think it is going to be an exciting future, even if our season comes to a premature end come Saturday.
7 Posted 08/03/2016 at 17:46:27
8 Posted 08/03/2016 at 17:49:18
9 Posted 08/03/2016 at 17:50:32
This club needs to move away from the 'nicey nicey' approach and become ruthless. If you can't perform then you are out it's that simple. There is no room for being a sentimental club any longer.
10 Posted 08/03/2016 at 17:57:11
But Duncan Ferguson as temporary boss? Are our options that limited?
11 Posted 08/03/2016 at 18:00:10
12 Posted 08/03/2016 at 18:06:35
13 Posted 08/03/2016 at 18:18:03
14 Posted 08/03/2016 at 18:18:43
I don't there will be any quick changes, Mr Moshiri will now take stock of what he has purchased no doubt.
15 Posted 08/03/2016 at 18:21:22
The appointment of Ferguson to any role would be a backward step.
16 Posted 08/03/2016 at 18:28:26
Remember when he was out injured or suspended (as usual) and we got beat by Newcastle on Sky's Monday night footie. Next day he asked one of the players how "we'd got on last night"?
17 Posted 08/03/2016 at 18:36:39
18 Posted 08/03/2016 at 18:38:06
19 Posted 08/03/2016 at 18:45:56
20 Posted 08/03/2016 at 18:49:26
I don't see anything major happening until the end of the season even if we win or lose on Saturday. If this guy is serious about making us a force in football then he has several issues to contend with.
1) Keeping our young stars
2) Atracting 2-3 top notch players in the summer
3) Announcing his stadium plans
4) Improving our commercial deals
5) Future investments in the club
6) Decide on manager
Points 1 and 2 may well depend on who the manager is. I can't wait to see what he has to say.
21 Posted 08/03/2016 at 18:51:30
I actually think he will focus his attentions on sorting out the sham of a "business" we have become.
The playing side will follow when the business isn't hemorrhaging money à la BVI, Kitbag, other operating costs etc.
22 Posted 08/03/2016 at 18:57:38
23 Posted 08/03/2016 at 19:09:16
24 Posted 08/03/2016 at 19:15:56
25 Posted 08/03/2016 at 19:30:40
26 Posted 08/03/2016 at 19:34:01
In fact, I can't believe Moshiri wouldn't have already looked at this over the 18 months of discussions to date. I can't see him as being happy with the performance, and therefore...
He's coming in with no historical or emotional ties to Roberto, so...
27 Posted 08/03/2016 at 19:40:53
I don't trust Kenwright and just knew the Americans wouldn't buy Everton. If, Moshri puts money into Everton then we can look to a brighter future only if Martinez is sacked, would you want transfer funds given to him?
No matter who Martinez brought in the team would still be playing the way we all know is wrong.
28 Posted 08/03/2016 at 20:01:09
29 Posted 08/03/2016 at 20:01:17
30 Posted 08/03/2016 at 20:02:50
Not what we all want to hear but can't see him being sacked just yet. Billy boy will persuade him to give him more time.
31 Posted 08/03/2016 at 20:05:15
If we win on Saturday then we are stuck with Martinez until next season at least. My view is that we will win the cup and have another poor season next year in the league with Martinez's reign extended by cup success.
32 Posted 08/03/2016 at 20:06:22
The Echo have confirmed it in tonight's live blog, I don't suppose it's particularly interesting to those who don't support Everton as it's only a technical process.
33 Posted 08/03/2016 at 20:08:34
34 Posted 08/03/2016 at 20:11:54
Are Bolton a bigger club than us now, more important to Sky than us?
35 Posted 08/03/2016 at 20:18:51
That Newcastle game you refer to was in 2003 when Yobo got sent off and Shearer scored that worldy. It was Sunday afternoon game and he asked how we got on the next morning in training.
The Sky Monday night game when he was sold was against Sunderland about 3 years earlier
36 Posted 08/03/2016 at 20:20:31
It will be very interesting to see what the new guy's plans are and what are his intentions. Don't rule out him wanting to make money on the TV deal and just to let Everton drift as we have done for years now.
Hopefully he has big plans aligned with what we want (stadium, players, new manager etc) but it's yet to be seen.
37 Posted 08/03/2016 at 20:20:35
38 Posted 08/03/2016 at 20:23:56
Totally agree on this weird fascination with DF.
Why ask a man to manage Everton, when he clearly can't even manage his own money.
39 Posted 08/03/2016 at 20:30:05
40 Posted 08/03/2016 at 20:32:07
I think the deal was completed during the game by Peter Johnson. Walter Smith was completely in the dark and became aware only at full time â€“ as a consequence he almost resigned immediately.
41 Posted 08/03/2016 at 20:33:51
42 Posted 08/03/2016 at 20:36:44
43 Posted 08/03/2016 at 20:42:21
We don't need major investment in our squad, to be honest; it's got plenty of quality already! Just Martinez cannot get the best out of it.
44 Posted 08/03/2016 at 21:17:13
Trevor, when Merson muttered "worrying" the other day when asked about Moshiri leaving Arsenal for Everton apparently it was because Moshiri was pushing for a change of management at the club and his leaving left Wenger even stronger.
45 Posted 08/03/2016 at 21:44:05
Bally scored a Don Hutchison won penalty in the Park End.
Let's hope Mr Moshiri is a hard headed businessman eh! Walter was sacked after the Quarterfinal loss to Boro away.
46 Posted 08/03/2016 at 22:07:59
We need someone who's a proven winner, who's not used to failure. I don't want to be nice Everton anymore, I want to be nasty horrible Everton who everyone hates cause we're twatting them every week.
I don't know who this is but I wouldn't mind having a go for Ronald Koeman, I remember him cheating England out of a place at the Euros I think it was. He'd do for me.
47 Posted 08/03/2016 at 22:58:45
Everton Football Club has today received notification that the proposed investment into the Club by Farhad Moshiri has been approved by the Premier League.
48 Posted 08/03/2016 at 23:05:37
To then denigrate into snide remarks about Duncan in my opinion is extremely childish. I would hate to have been in the trenches with some of the guys on here!
49 Posted 08/03/2016 at 23:25:03
I hope the crowd gets going like it did in the first tie of the semis against Man City. Of course it's a two-way street so fingers crossed the players come out fighting.
51 Posted 08/03/2016 at 00:06:00
I still wait to see absolute confirmation of which previous shareholders have sold up all, or part, of their shares and the new roles of remaining shareholders.
I hope Mr Moshri will soon become a regular figure at games and before much longer that we will hear a 'mission statement' from him as to just what his vision and plans are for the club.
As for existing employees at the club more specifically, the current CEO and manager a new gaffer will no doubt be evaluating their performance and making decisions on whether to continue with them or not.
Interesting times ahead, methinks...
52 Posted 09/03/2016 at 00:10:28
On the subject of big Duncan,Duncan is a great blue, that said so am I, there is no way on this planet he can be given the job on a permanent basis.
We could give anyone the job to see out the season as we won't go anywhere with Martinez in charge.
If the manager we want is currently unemployed, then we could get him in as soon as, but if not anyone will get the blues fans an players alike up more than Martinez.
He has well and truly run his course.
53 Posted 09/03/2016 at 02:10:15
Duncan Ferguson massively damaged every club employing him as a player. His decade long "career" with us resulted in only 6 goals a season on average. "Legend"? Are you drinking from the same pot as Martinez?
Having squandered his vast, undeserved income within a few years of it ending he begged the soft touch that is, now hopefully was, the EFC board and got a job as a totally unproven trainer.
Money aside, the guy has achieved zero in his life, unless his pigeon fascination has been worthwhile, but I can never forgive the fact that his playing ability, which was awesome when he rarely chose to show it, was ruined by his constant wilful thuggery.
Bankrupt as he now Is he'll have to do whatever it takes to preserve Duncan, and bollocks to the club he's at.
Plus ça change!
54 Posted 09/03/2016 at 02:45:57
What a statement it would send if we went for Jose? if our new owner is serious then why not? I also think Everton would be of interest to Mourinho...
55 Posted 09/03/2016 at 03:11:53
Rudi Garcia is another name thrown around, and some of the current EPL managers are good targets for "signed for next season".
56 Posted 09/03/2016 at 03:17:50
57 Posted 09/03/2016 at 03:52:11
If our new man is present then he needs to know how the majority feel.
What is the point in letting Martinez stay, he has failed the evidence is there.
I am not bothered if we win lose or draw against Chelsea we will not win the cup. The sooner the Spanish mackerel is shipped out the better for all us fans.
Sadly though I predict same shite different game.
58 Posted 09/03/2016 at 04:02:16
I don't think his potential appointment would be met by every Evertonian with universal acceptance. He is though, exactly the type of manager we need and probably if we do have a chance, an opportunity to good to turn down.
59 Posted 09/03/2016 at 05:18:37
Koeman, Garcia look like better gambles. Short term fixes might even be LVG, Wenger (if he does get fired). Also Hiidink, he's a good fixer.
My dream catch is Simeone. Hey, Hiidink's 16/1, pretty good chance of getting him I guess.
Ideally whoever comes in should have a long term plan (and relatively young), a good enough track record and a good enough profile. Everyone will know Poch in a few years. I just hate that we missed out on Poch and Klopp.
61 Posted 09/03/2016 at 07:52:58
Could do worse though than demanding that RM work with a defensive coach for the rest of this season.
62 Posted 09/03/2016 at 08:18:39
63 Posted 09/03/2016 at 08:37:28
64 Posted 09/03/2016 at 08:49:13
The scouting team appear to be pretty good. Likewise the academy coaches. With a squad depleted by the many loan placements, David Unsworth is doing a mighty job with his U21s and I hope he stays with us when the multi-millionaire, 2nd division, philosophy upstart gets the chop.
65 Posted 09/03/2016 at 09:02:54
That's the trouble with forums, rumour tends to become fact over time, and if enough people repeat it!
66 Posted 09/03/2016 at 09:08:11
A) There isn't anyone available who we would want to takeover available until the summer. My preferences being Pellegrini, Hiddink or Koeman in that order. Please don't touch the circus act Mourinho with a barge pole.
B) Some of the caretakers suggested are only qualified to be exactly that, ie locking up Goodison of a night. I don't like the Duncan hating but some of the points above are correct he has zero qualifications for the job and is only classed as a "legend" on the back of his antics not his amazing play or goals return. Joe Royle honestly are people being serious? As far as I can tell he currently acts like a granddad for some of the academy players, which probably totals him telling them to work harder and offering them a Werther's Original.
The first three years after the takeover are going to be critical as to what direction we go on and off the pitch. Getting in a proven Premier League manager is preferable. It would suit us to have Pellegrini a safe pair of hands who isn't gonna rock the boat and is eager to stay in England, how hungry is he to prove Man City wrong and he has an air of class about him, no talking garbage in the papers or to Sky and certainly non of the Mourinho self interested crap that comes with him.
67 Posted 09/03/2016 at 09:41:29
68 Posted 09/03/2016 at 10:17:10
69 Posted 09/03/2016 at 10:18:50
But Albelda, the club captain, was still a fine player. Just to give a flavour of what Albelda thinks of him, last year he said: "I hope Koeman becomes the BarÃ§a manager. That way the league would be a more level playing field." After Koeman was sacked, Albelda played on for years.
For me, thereÃ¢Â€Â™s no barge pole big enough. His predecessor at Valencia and now the Watford manager, Quique Sanchez Flores, would be a better bet, although his style of play is much more conservative than MartinezÃ¢Â€Â™s.
70 Posted 09/03/2016 at 10:32:06
71 Posted 09/03/2016 at 10:34:16
72 Posted 09/03/2016 at 10:36:35
73 Posted 09/03/2016 at 10:39:37
74 Posted 09/03/2016 at 10:54:58
75 Posted 09/03/2016 at 11:06:36
I would rule out a British manager straight away they just aren't good enough. Just look at the top eight clubs in the Premier League not one of them has a British manager.
What we need is a man with a proven track record. From a country where in order to succeed tactical awareness is a priority.
I don't want Mourinho (now no good without ridiculous money) or Pellegrini (too old). They are out there in Spain, Germany, Italy, Portugal and beyond.
76 Posted 09/03/2016 at 11:08:51
We could also get a professional spokesman to do pre and post game interviews.
77 Posted 09/03/2016 at 11:30:04
Stubbs?... erm, no ta. We've just had a billionaire takeover and who better to lead us into a new era than Alan Stubbs, seriously? I've actually heard and that he is almost nailed on for Celtic in the summer.
78 Posted 09/03/2016 at 11:33:00
No self-respecting manager would have staff inflicted on him so a total change it has to be.
79 Posted 09/03/2016 at 11:33:39
Martinez would walk rather than have his philosophy undermined with a new coaching staff they might just practice defensive formations and how to defend now that wouldn't please El Boss Bob and would never be entertained.
He is here for at least the first few months of next season, he has been sucking up for weeks on end to BK and now Mr. Moshiri making sure his job is safe.
80 Posted 09/03/2016 at 11:44:20
81 Posted 09/03/2016 at 12:00:05
He either takes on board the results at Goodison (and some away results) as a flaw in his appproach, or he carries on with what he's doing now.
I don't see the point of having an interim Manager then us looking for a new Manager to start at the season end. Well, perhaps it would remove a source of angst away from those fans who couldn't bear Roberto's presence any longer.
I could have seen Kenwright persisting with him next season, if we hadn't had the new shareholder come in, as Kenwright would not have had the funds to do much about getting a top class manager in.
I think, if he hasn't already made up his mind, Mr Moshiri will inetrview Martinez and make his mind up after the interview as to whether we bring in a new manager.
It's going to be the most important decision he is going to make; because if we keep a Manager who doesn't improve results, then I think two things will happen. Any chance of us keeping our better young players will go: and there will be further alienation of the supporters.
So I don't think Mr Moshiri would be happy without having the best chance possible of keeping is better players and maximising the chances of bringing more top class players in.
I'm sad to say, that I don't think Roberto is up to the task. There is a flaw in his football outlook, which shows no sign of being eradicated.
I think we need a manager who everyone will be excited about and would be here for the long term. Directors, Players, Shareholders, Fans and players from other clubs who would chose us over other clubs.
A tall order and I wouldn't have a clue about which manager to pick.
82 Posted 09/03/2016 at 12:05:41
"Let's pluck the next manager"
I nominate Glen Hoddle.
83 Posted 09/03/2016 at 12:16:33
"Lost the dressing room"
I must have thought it and not noticed. God, you're clever to have spotted that without me writing it!
84 Posted 09/03/2016 at 12:17:28
85 Posted 09/03/2016 at 12:33:30
86 Posted 09/03/2016 at 12:34:46
87 Posted 09/03/2016 at 12:41:56
88 Posted 09/03/2016 at 12:48:09
I believe he and Satan don't get along to well.
89 Posted 09/03/2016 at 12:54:45
He has not been a manager since 2006.
His win rate at club level is 38% compared to Martinez' 40% and Moyes 44%
90 Posted 09/03/2016 at 12:56:47
What I'm really pleased about, is this investment looks to be real, proper and promises us a bit opf hope. For a while I feared it was going to Fortress Sports mark two!
Being an eternal optimist, as well as daft, I think we're going to finally start to see EFC begin to go back to where we once was. At or around the top consistently
91 Posted 09/03/2016 at 13:05:17
Even looking at the Premier League, the only realistic improvements we might want/attract would be Bilic or Ranieri and I'm not even sure on those potential one season wonders.
I don't think Hiddink could be arsed with full-time management.
92 Posted 09/03/2016 at 13:06:36
You couldn't make them up if you tried. Hoddles win ratio means nothing as it contains his time as England manager.
94 Posted 09/03/2016 at 13:30:27
No doubt opponents of him will remind us Benitez slagged us off once, big deal, don't we slag them off all the time? Let's not be hypocritical.
Whatever happens, change is much needed. The current incumbent has totally lost the plot. Even an FA Cup win shouldn't save him.
95 Posted 09/03/2016 at 13:35:49
Here's some other stats for you to ignore when assessing the suitability of your man. His final league positions when managing in the top flight:
14th, 13th, 14th, 10th, 9th, 10th
So aside from not having managed for 10 years, a poor win rate as a manager, mid to lower league finishes every year as a top flight manager and never winning anything as a manager, I can see no reason why he isn't the ideal man to take us to the next level.
96 Posted 09/03/2016 at 13:36:44
97 Posted 09/03/2016 at 13:44:26
98 Posted 09/03/2016 at 13:58:29
Apologies for the misinterpretation but my suggestion was tongue in cheek.
Rafa is a good shout though, imagine the kopites if we walloped them with their old gaffa... Priceless.
99 Posted 09/03/2016 at 13:59:12
If this Moshiri fella is really serious about taking us to another level then I think he'll be looking for a very high profile manager, with a winning track record. I just hope to god it isn't a Mourinho or Pellegrini who are only interested in having a team of galacticos and untold millions to spend. We need a manager with a long term vision who will promote youth, not some 'Jose will fix it' character.
100 Posted 09/03/2016 at 14:00:36
101 Posted 09/03/2016 at 14:07:26
I personally reckon that would be suicide. Howe is a lovely lad but untried in the pressure cooker.
The only expectation the cherries have of him is to keep them up. I would much rather have a tried and tested European manager, one who knows how to grind out results.
Howe has an attacking philosophy and their defence is as rubbish as ours, they too ship a lot of goals.
Simione may be one option but I think we'd have to kidnap his family for him to come to us.
102 Posted 09/03/2016 at 14:07:40
Rather a mixture of buying good players, as and when necessary, but also getting the best out of the players we have. Yep, the acadamy is also a vital part of the set up, as we want to be encouraging top young talent to play for us, well into the future.
103 Posted 09/03/2016 at 14:16:44
104 Posted 09/03/2016 at 14:22:57
It would be difficult, if not impossible, to get him but, apparently, he has said he'd like to coach in the prem and he's learning English as well. He likes to have complete control of team affairs and he likes to wheel and deal and is not afraid of losing players if he can get better ones in return.
Personally, I don't lke him for getting Beckham sent off in '98 and for being a dirty sod of a player but he doesn't take any crap from his players and gets 110% out of them. If we got Simeone players would be falling over themselves to play for him and that includes Lukaku and Stonesy (not to sure about Gerri though).
105 Posted 09/03/2016 at 14:25:54
My favourite is Eddie Howe. Unlike Martinez, he has demonstrated an ability to change his philosophy to survive. He has installed a wonderful style of football and brought in people from the cold when needed. Despite bad injuries he has reinvigorated the side after a poor start, and the form of Stanislas and Smith among others have demonstrated his ability to get the best out of limited players. I'd take him in a minute and he can bring Arter and a fit Wilson with him.
2 years of this rubbish is too long. I'm all for patience, but unless Martinez turns around our home form, wins the vast majority of our last 9 games, and wins the FA Cup, he should go. It's unbelievable that we are so far off the pace in view of our talent, our lack of European football, and the poor standard of the 'big' teams this year.
106 Posted 09/03/2016 at 14:30:36
Should we form the kidnap party next week? I've got a few days off work.
107 Posted 09/03/2016 at 14:33:52
108 Posted 09/03/2016 at 14:35:26
It would also be way too divisive with Kenwright.
He's a successful businessman. He'll weigh it all up whilst getting his feet under the table. He won't be courting controversy on day one. If he did I'd be worried if we had the right guy.
It ain't happening boys.
It will be post season if at all.
And some of the suggestions for the newly annointed saviour truly scare me. If the fans are fractured now - and if he is sacked - I shudder at the fallout coming from these pages at whoever is chosen next.
5% - he was always my first choice.
20% - he was in my top 3.
50% - not my choice at all but I wish him well.
22% - this is a frigging disaster we should have stayed with RM.
1% - I'm off to potting shed. I think I left it loaded.
1% - who is he?
1% - pencils up nose. Check. Undies on head. Check. Dwibble!
..... and so the wheel will turn yet again ...
109 Posted 09/03/2016 at 14:40:32
It shows there are top class managers out there and It would be great if we could get a manager who could bring us up to become a regular top six team.
Yeah, it would be important that our young top players would want to play for him, as well as attracting good players from elsewhere.
I don't think Roberto is the complete manager and I don't think now he ever will be, which is a shame as he has some great points.
Mind you, if we are going to mix it with the best, then we have to live up to our motto in all aspects of the club, starting with the Manager.
I think Beckham was a bit of a tit though, in that match.
110 Posted 09/03/2016 at 14:45:37
If he is learning English, is he already lined up?
111 Posted 09/03/2016 at 14:46:46
112 Posted 09/03/2016 at 14:47:07
If anything he seems to struggle when he has more cash and players are imposed upon him.
He a good shout to steadily take us up the league for the next 3-4 seasons as we improve infrastructure off the pitch.
Moshiri isn't gonna just rock up and we shoot up the league overnight. There's so much wrong off the pitch that having a safe pair of hands on it would make sense for the short term. Or at least until Pep is looking for his next project!
113 Posted 09/03/2016 at 15:09:04
All I'd ask is that we consider managers who have a track record of success. Not potential or what could be. Proven winners. The landscape has changed at Everton. Our next appointment should reflect this new reality.
114 Posted 09/03/2016 at 15:14:37
That's knocking Bournemouth at all, I like their club but I think they will be happy just staying in the Premier League. Above all, I wouldn't like to see us as we are now, in two years time, desperately searching for a manager who can bring us more than we're getting now.
I don't expect that we would get instant results, all I would want to see is that we get more out of the players we have now, while steadily building the quality of the squad up, while the other aspects that need attending to ie the Stadium, our retail and sponsors portfolio and all the rest that needs attending to.
My view is, if we dismiss Martinez we want as much of a guarantee as can be had, in the mad world of football, that the manager is the best we can buy.
I think it would be disastrous if the club replaced Martinez and then found itself no better off than it is now.
115 Posted 09/03/2016 at 15:14:47
I don't want to see an old man coming to the club but a younger manager with dynamism and the ability to change. I'd love Spur's or Southampton's manager but I'm not sure we're big enough a prize to attract them. We must also make sure we get the right calibre of backroom staff even not allowing a clown like RM bring his own performing clowns in. I really fancy us getting Eddie Howe, he has done fantastically well at Bournemouth.
We mustn't go for proven failures that have been around the block like Pardew or McLaren and I believe that we mustn't give any thought to taking Moyes back. We shouldn't promote from within because they are tainted by RM. I'd prefer a British manager too.
116 Posted 09/03/2016 at 15:24:27
Proven names only operate with Champions League teams (with the notable exception of Klopp and he sees Liverpool as a global-brand, sleeping giant ready to be re-awakened). Despite the promise of some investment, we still won't operate in those circles at least not immediately.
So be resigned to looking for a Koeman, Flores, pre-Tottenham Pochettino (the type guy who is successful with a continental club flourishing in one of the lesser leagues). Forget Mourinho (he'd waste our investment anyway by pissing off some of his signings straight away), Simeones Pochettinos(as of today). They have bigger fish to fry for now. I know we're still a big club, but sometimes some of our supporters seem as deluded as Martinez himself!
117 Posted 09/03/2016 at 15:27:38
He must be aware of the fans dissatisfaction with Roberto, if he has been involved in talks with Bill and company for the last 12 months or so. Does he intend to carry on leaving the football side of things to the manager alone?
If there is a conflict between the old guard and the new, who has the power to break the deadlock? It wouldn't take much for Mr Moshiri to buy enough shares to tip the balance in his favour.
I tend to agree that very little will happen regarding the manager's position one way or the other until the season has ended, but that doesn't mean that research on possible replacements aren't already underway, apparently Man City are already doing this for Pep's replacement in 2019.
I happen to believe that Mr Moshiri will be in sole charge by the beginning of next season and then it will be his club to do with as he sees fit, hopefully he is a good steward and Everton are successful in all aspects not least on the playing side.
118 Posted 09/03/2016 at 15:27:55
119 Posted 09/03/2016 at 15:28:11
Your not guilty as charged!
120 Posted 09/03/2016 at 15:40:31
The new man/owner will concern himself firstly with the administration and then the on-field and associated problems.
121 Posted 09/03/2016 at 15:42:23
Good lad, bring your bus pass, it'll save on expenses.
122 Posted 09/03/2016 at 15:53:51
If, and it's still a big if, we are to have a new man at the helm, can't we be seeking out the Koemans and the Pochettinos rather than rooting around in the managerial graveyard?
123 Posted 09/03/2016 at 16:05:50
Unless we can get an experienced, proven manager (doubtful), then maybe only way to go is to try for a promising younger manager. Of course for every Koeman and Pochettino, there is a Remi Garde. So it's all a risk - but a lot less of a risk in my opinion than staying with the current incumbent.
124 Posted 09/03/2016 at 16:53:30
Moyes was the 4th highest paid manager in football. Martinez is 14th. This when we were cash strapped. So we can offer the wage.
Our club has a pedigree that few can match and still struggle to match. Of course we aren't viewed as highly as we once were but there is absolutely no reason why that cant change
Clubs with ambition frequently sack managers when they underperform. We invented it. See Carey and taxi. Just why should a club with ambition settle for underachieving?
The clubs motto is not a platitude. If you can afford the best go out and get it. There is nothing delusional about it. Backed by a billionaire investor its ok to dream again or at the very least set the bar a wee bit higher.
125 Posted 09/03/2016 at 17:02:57
He got Leicester up, and once he got his team playing well, look what's happened, oh and he knows how to organise a defence too.
126 Posted 09/03/2016 at 17:17:13
Sanchez Flores and Koeman are two Premier League managers I hold in high esteem as well. We've got no chance as far as Poccetino goes IMO.
As for the likes of Mourinho, Pellegrini, Benitez etc.... I think they are only interested in short term deals where they can spend zillions of pounds on established superstars and then get multi million pound severance deals.
127 Posted 09/03/2016 at 17:32:51
128 Posted 09/03/2016 at 17:43:29
From nipping to Southport on Merseyrail to International Travellin Man, sounds good!
I think that Mr Moshiri will very much, keep a close eye on what happens at GP in the next couple of months. Probably he has already drawn up a short list of managers he would consider good enough for the job.
If Roberto Martinez gets us to the final and the team move up to around 6th place, then who knows, he might see the change of managership as not too pressing.
If, however, we have a few more episodes of late collapses or getting beat when we shouldn't, then I think the crowd would lose it with the current manager and there'd be almost certainly a change of managers before the next season starts.
129 Posted 09/03/2016 at 17:44:45
Greg 69, thanks for the info. I couldn't figure out Koeman's stinker at Valencia but seems that he is doing OK now. Perhaps a few lessons learned?
Colin, I think Poch is a given to stay at Spurs or to go to Barca/Real some day. We definitely missed the chance with him.
130 Posted 09/03/2016 at 18:03:46
The squad we have now has the basis to become a top team and it may not need wholesale stripping and replacing. The most important thing that a club and its manager can do is develop its own players. Man Utd found that once and they're finding it again now.
The burning question is how do you stumble across another Pochetino?
131 Posted 09/03/2016 at 18:07:11
Why would he leave a club second in La Liga for us, a bottom-half Premier League (not 'Premiership') outfit?
You need Champions League football to attract these kind of names.
132 Posted 09/03/2016 at 18:15:43
"The burning question is how do you stumble across another Pochetino?"
Can someone tell me what is the fascination with this guy?
In 7 years as a manager, he has been sacked by Espanyol, won nothing at Southampton, and currently won nothing at Tottenham. He has done as much in 7 years as the clown we have in his 7 years in the Premier League.
And now people are saying he is destined for Barca or Real Madrid.
133 Posted 09/03/2016 at 18:18:06
134 Posted 09/03/2016 at 18:20:53
135 Posted 09/03/2016 at 18:24:44
136 Posted 09/03/2016 at 18:25:11
I would like to see separation of powers with the clubs development including a distinct style of play allied to youth development separated from the first team. This would mean the board have to do a bit of work and set out an identity for the club and its playing style, the juniors then are taught how to play the Everton way and we then recruit a manager/coach who has a proven reputation for playing the style we want.
This means we don't flip flop the recruitment of players every time we change managers from Moyes with his over recruitment of right backs to Martinez with his over recruitment of attacking mids. I know clubs like Newcastle have tried this although in their usual half arsed way but clubs like Barcelona, A Madrid and Juventus have done it and done it well.
137 Posted 09/03/2016 at 18:32:02
138 Posted 09/03/2016 at 18:55:56
However, I do so hope that the search for the new man is carried out thoroughly and in a professional manner rather than via the 'old boys network' Mr Kenwright has favored in the past.
Moving away from personnel matters, can I expand on that request to plead that henceforth all the Club's dealings are conducted in a manner befitting one of the greatest football institutions in the world and that a way will be found to inform and include all those of us who wish only goodwill towards it.
When (and if) short term and long term plans are put in place, can we please hope that our new 'controller' will be able to convince his boardroom colleagues that sharing these plans and goals honestly with us mere mortals will have only the effect on ensuring old fractures are healed and that the future is a good one.
139 Posted 09/03/2016 at 19:11:38
I believe the Premier League will be the league to manage in with Pep, Jose and Klopp competing with each other plus Wenger and whoever Cheslea get. I don't watch European footie so I have no idea who's out there but there will be top coaches who will see us as a favourable move.
Would the chap from Sevilla fancy us? Or the fella at Dortmund?
140 Posted 09/03/2016 at 19:52:27
If Man Utd don't want him then where else can he go next season as the so-called 'elite' clubs are all boxed-off with managers throughout Europe with the exception of Chelsea and he ain't going back there.
I don't care if he is a tit because he is a successful tit.
66% win rate over his entire career.
8 league titles, 2 Champions Leagues, 1 Europa League, 7 domestic cups and 3 European super cups as a manager.
We can still be nice little Everton with their average run of the mill manager or we can be big-thinking, ambitious Everton who have made a statement of their intent.
141 Posted 09/03/2016 at 20:02:19
The only people who would be shitting themselves would be the doctor and physios and, I suspect a few of less professional professionals.
142 Posted 09/03/2016 at 20:04:10
Show him our ambition and then offer him a big deal and who knows? It's all up to Mr Moshiri anyway but I wouldn't be surprised if he's already made up his mind on who is manager is going to be.
143 Posted 09/03/2016 at 20:09:23
Poor Sky, they've got all their hopes attached to Klopp reviving the stiffs.
144 Posted 09/03/2016 at 20:42:26
Emery led Valencia to three third place finishes and two Europa cup wins with Sevilla. Excellent choice.
Tuchel's record at Dortmund, won 31, drawn 5, lost 5. 75% win ratio. Definitely worth having a look at but considering his short time there, might be hard to get. Regardless these are the type of managers we should be looking at.
145 Posted 09/03/2016 at 20:50:50
146 Posted 09/03/2016 at 21:01:22
147 Posted 09/03/2016 at 21:07:26
148 Posted 09/03/2016 at 21:07:36
Sean Dyche for me.
149 Posted 09/03/2016 at 21:11:52
150 Posted 09/03/2016 at 21:12:06
After the diabolicle sub of removing a midfielder for a forward when 2 nil up and a player down, the sooner Bobby is gone the better.
Happening too often now from winning positions.
151 Posted 09/03/2016 at 21:12:36
153 Posted 09/03/2016 at 21:31:46
154 Posted 09/03/2016 at 21:51:21
155 Posted 09/03/2016 at 22:08:18
Eddy Howe: Besides a brief stint at Burnley. Took Bournemouth out of league two to the premier league. No mean feat. Averaging almost a 50% win ratio. His record is played 366, won 173, drawn 77, lost 116. including his time at Burnley. I can see why people would consider him. He's still unproven at this level but at 38 he has time on his side.
Sean Dyche: After a brief stint at Watford he followed in Eddy Howe's footsteps and took over Burnley and got them promoted to the premier league, setting various club records along the way. Although relegated the following year they currently sit top of the league and look destined to head straight back up. Strange how he had the balls and honor to go down with his club and then the grit and determination to attempt to bring them back up. So for that he gets my kudos. His overall record including his time at Watford is Played 214, Won 85, Drawn 67 and Lost 62. With a win ratio of 39.7 %. Dyche also has time on his side at 44.
157 Posted 09/03/2016 at 22:21:49
The only problem is that BK may be ill at the moment and he may not be in a position to make big decisions like this. I'd say that a move before the season ends is very unlikely. The conundrum is how to register displeasure at the ground without causing players to lose confidence or to make us as fans look ridiculous like airplanes towing banners or like the Arsenal fans up at Hull last night.
We must support the team when they play, we must encourage them and forgive mistakes at the time because we can't influence what is happening, we must be the 12th man we've always been until recently. Afterwards we can analyse and make our feelings known but I think fans now are part of the problem not the solution because they have irrational expectations.
The major question that has to be resolved now is that as Clubs have transitioned to PLCs and fans been relegated to customer status what can we do as fans to influence club affairs. Legally we have no right to demand anything especially change of manager.
I think BK stopped any real relationship with fans when he was ambushed in the Car Park and asked "Where's the money gone Bill?"
158 Posted 09/03/2016 at 23:18:49
I'm predicting a win on Saturday and our supporters will put aside any feelings they have for the manager and cheer the team on. I really can't accept we are part of the problem.
159 Posted 10/03/2016 at 00:10:58
Martin, I'm sure BK hears us. He made Moshiri's takeover happen without selling out, even when he is sick, assuming. He is still on the cards and I'm sure Moshiri will remind him if BK's not making any noise about this debacle.
160 Posted 10/03/2016 at 01:42:38
Here's a couple more shout outs from posters.
Marcelo Bielsa: Previously national team manager of Argentina and Chile, domestic league experience includes Athletic Bilbao, who he took to the Europa league finals and Marseilles amongst others. Currently unemployed. Both Guardiola and Pochettino cite the formidable Bielsa as a major influence. With just under a 50% win record for the above mentioned teams, his record is Played 282, Won 137, Drawn 65, Lost 80.
Vitor Pereira: Already interviewed for the Everton job, (who was my choice incidentally before they hired Martinez). Pereira took over Porto after Villas Boas left for Chelsea. Won the Portuguese title at the first attempt and the following year too, as well as domestic cup winners. At Olympiacos he achieved the same feat, winning the double, in 2014-15. Now at Fenerbahïe, his overall record is:
Played 266, Won 158, Drawn 64, Lost 44 with a win ratio of 59.40%.
161 Posted 10/03/2016 at 06:55:17
162 Posted 10/03/2016 at 08:25:36
Unspecified Everton Director paid £360,000. Last financial year.
Who could that be?
163 Posted 10/03/2016 at 09:21:26
Please read my post again and see if you can relay to me, were I called Duncan Ferguson a legend.
You won't find it.
Also I stated clearly he was not suitable for the job of Everton manager long term.
What I did say, and stand by is ANYONE who can gee the players up by raising moral is worth a punt until the end of the season.
If we are to look at a new manager, I'd personally jump in with both feet and offer Mourinho what ever he wanted to manage us.
I've read the pros and cons of this move, but I can't help but feel it may bigger pros than cons.
If we ask him and he says no, then we are proven to be seeking the right standard of manager. This does a number of good things, it shows the players, fans and potential future transfers, that we are a serious force.
If he says yes, it will ensure we can keep our stars, we will have a manager with a proven track record of trophy winning, and it will also allow us as fans to believe in our new regime.
Even if it's only a 3-year deal, that's all that we need, we will probably landed silver wear if his record is continued, we will have massively raised the profile of the club too, it's a no-brainer.
Look around Europe, no big clubs appear to be ready to change manager, and with our new owner, we look like an exciting project.
Let's think big and go for it is my opinion.
164 Posted 10/03/2016 at 15:33:38
And Ste(131); someone beat me to it but it could all be down to "Show me the money"!
165 Posted 10/03/2016 at 16:53:32
Howe? Not a big enough name or experienced enough by a long shot. The Premier League is different beast nowadays even in the last couple of years.
Mourinho? Let Lukaku go, let De Bruyne go, Eva fiasco, plays boring crap, has only worked at money rich clubs already in the top 2 of their league, and really... he took the same players (mainly their prime) from champions to near the bottom of the table and that takes some talent, to lose those players?
However, I doubt RM will be going anywhere so long as he retains the players.
166 Posted 10/03/2016 at 17:14:30
167 Posted 10/03/2016 at 17:34:08
I will have nothing to do with football ever again and will start to follow netball or something.
The ginger one returning is unthinkable in my mind.
168 Posted 10/03/2016 at 17:36:15
Hope Nick Entwistle didn't read that anywhere public (that sentence is a nap to have him spoffing 'tattie-water' into his bills).
169 Posted 10/03/2016 at 18:05:37
170 Posted 10/03/2016 at 18:09:48
171 Posted 10/03/2016 at 19:15:22
172 Posted 10/03/2016 at 19:45:37
173 Posted 10/03/2016 at 20:42:15
174 Posted 10/03/2016 at 20:53:02
It's dreamland, speculation, without foundation, probably nonsense.
175 Posted 11/03/2016 at 05:10:30
I vaguely recall that Elstone had been promoted to the Board of Directors. I'd guess it's his salary.
Accounts for Last Financial Year under Note 7, Particulars of Employees, show Directors' "Emoluments" (Isn't that something you apply for a chest infection?) were 𧸪k in 2014-15..... and 𧸖k in 2013-14.
So no big deal.
176 Posted 11/03/2016 at 05:58:41
I read his profile on the OS there was no mention of it there.
Perhaps it's a recent thing and the profile hasn't been updated.
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