Veteran trio released by Everton

by | 10/06/2016  165 Comments  [Jump to last]
Leon Osman, Steven Pienaar and Tony Hibbert are set to leave Everton following years of respective service after they were included on the club's list of players who will be released this summer.

The trio will wind down their contracts, which officially expire on 30th June, and have not been offered new terms.

The move comes as a natural end to the Blues career of all three players as age and injury catch up with three stalwarts of Goodison Park. Osman and Hibbert, two members of the 1998 FA Youth Cup winning team that went on to enjoy lasting careers at Goodison Park while the likes of Francis Jeffers and Danny Cadamarteri moved on, have made over 650 appearances for Everton's senior side between them.

Persistent injury has restricted Hibbert, 35, to just eight Premier League starts in the past four seasons, however, although he got to enjoy a swansong last month with one final appearance.

Osman, also 35, has been more fortunate with injuries and had, until this past season, been a reliable option for the now-departed Roberto Martinez, making 29 appearances in 2014-15 but only 16 in all competitions in 2015-16.

Pienaar, 34, who returned to Everton in 2012 after an ill-advised and largely fruitless spell at Tottenham Hotspur, has also been plagued by niggling injuries for most of the last two years and it was expected that he, too, would be let go this summer as the Blues plan a new season under a new manager.

One of the best players Goodison has witnessed in the Premier League era, Pienaar struck up a magical partnership with Leighton Baines down the left flank that was one of the cornerstones of the team's relative success under David Moyes. In all, the South African played 229 times for Everton, scoring 24 goals.

Also leaving Everton this summer will be Brazilian fullback Felipe Mattioni and reserve goalkeeper Jindrich Stanek.

Jordan Thorniley, James Graham, Jamie Mellen, Spencer Myers and Ciaran O'Loughlin will be departing from the Finch Farm Academy.  


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James Carroll
1 Posted 10/06/2016 at 17:15:45
Good luck - and great thanks to all.
Jon Withey
2 Posted 10/06/2016 at 17:17:35
All contributed a lot.
Liam Reilly
3 Posted 10/06/2016 at 17:18:19
No real surprise there; although I'd expect Pienaar will be mouthing off again in the papers as to how he was fit but overlooked. Didn't look like that when he was on the field at the tail end of the season.

I suspect Osman will get another deal elsewhere in the lower premier league but the only way we'll be seeing Hibbo coming back to Goodison is in the stands as a spectator.

Shane Corcoran
4 Posted 10/06/2016 at 17:25:10
I wish them all well and thanks for their efforts but Pienaar kept falling over, Osman looked like he was running in quicksand and Hibbert just can't stay fit.

They'll point at Gibson and wonder but at least he's a bit younger.

Paul Thompson
5 Posted 10/06/2016 at 17:25:20
Some sadness at this news. Hibbert a great servant and solid defender. Pienaar at the height of his left flank link-up with Baines, was a tremendous player. Osman has always had his detractors on this site, but was an underrated, clever player who produced some great goals and assists. Nevertheless, the right decision to let them go. We and they need to move on.
Jackie Barry
6 Posted 10/06/2016 at 17:25:21
While sad this shows the club is moving in the right direction. You can bet that if Morshiri was not here all 3 would still be here.
Paul Conway
7 Posted 10/06/2016 at 17:27:01
I have no doubt when Koeman arrives, there will be others leaving on the ' Deadwood ' train!
John Pierce
8 Posted 10/06/2016 at 17:27:17
I salute all three, Pienaar was undoubted class act of the trio, able to sit inside and let his full back go beyond him, I regard him as the heartbeat of the side which contained Arteta and Cahill. Continually able to protect the ball was kicked until his body gave out. Excellent player!

Brothers in arms almost, Ossie and Hibbo have been the local link that dragged us from obscurity in the dying embers of the millenium to respectiblity through the 'noughties. True Evertonians, both limited footballers who often made up for things with sheer will power, Vert Everton that!

Remember Ossies' header against City? One of the best headed goals I've seen at Goodsion

Good luck to all the lads, NSNO

Jeff Armstrong
9 Posted 10/06/2016 at 17:29:56
This should free up about 80 grand a week in wages, even it's for only 1 player l would hope he would contribute more than these 3 did last season.

Great servants and players on their day, but they where well paid for every minute of their contract. Thanks, but we move on.
Tony Hill
10 Posted 10/06/2016 at 17:30:56
Fine players. Pienaar should never have gone to Tottenham but he was lovely to watch at his best. I think Osman and Hibbert can look back on their careers with enormous pride and if they may have stayed on for a couple of years too long, that means nothing in the context of their fantastic service. It was great to see Hibbo get one last run out when I thought he was excellent.
Don Alexander
11 Posted 10/06/2016 at 17:32:46
Although they should have sufficient money to live a rich life without ever having to work again I wouldn't be surprised if all three are a little rueful about reaching the end of their careers just as, hopefully, we are about to get shut of our BK-designed "Plucky Little Everton" tag courtesy of the new regime.

........That said, good as they were at their best I hope to soon see better players than them in team, even at their best.

Charlie Burnett
12 Posted 10/06/2016 at 17:34:27
To be fair last two years they have just collected a wage I don't even think Hibbert used to train, did he?
Kristian Boyce
13 Posted 10/06/2016 at 17:36:10
Thanks for your service and memories.

Now who's going to take the "It's _____________ Fault!" mantel?

Gareth Clark
14 Posted 10/06/2016 at 17:36:58
Sad day for loyal servants to Everton, but one that was needed!

I'm very very excited about what is happening at Everton!

Things seems to be heading in the right direction, and a very positive direction at that!

James Morgan
15 Posted 10/06/2016 at 17:48:10
Thanks to these players but now is the dawn of a new era. They have been good squad members in their pomp but even at their best wouldn't have got in to any top four sides, which is what we are aiming to be. We now need players who when coming off the bench are as good as the players they replace.
Ste Traverse
16 Posted 10/06/2016 at 17:49:40
Good luck to all three lads. Been superb servants to our club.

Can we release Kenwright as well?

Mike Keating
17 Posted 10/06/2016 at 17:52:42
But Gibson gets (another) extension and Mcgeady still drawing a wage as is Kone. Hopefully Koeman will have something to say about this ...when he eventually returns from his holidays!
Jamie Barlow
18 Posted 10/06/2016 at 17:53:04
Kone's still here Kristian.

A sad day for all three I would imagine. Especially Hibbo and Ossie.

To me it's just another sign that this club is moving forward. No doubt if Bill Was still in charge, he'd have found some way of keeping them at the club.

All decent players though.

Sandra Williams
19 Posted 10/06/2016 at 17:56:20
End of an era.......start of a new one. But good luck to all three in their respective futures. Once Everton has touched you........
Jon Bentley
20 Posted 10/06/2016 at 17:56:37
Kristian (13)...... Niasse
James Stewart
21 Posted 10/06/2016 at 17:58:53
Pienaar along with Arteta and Cahill at their peak was the best midfield I have seen ever have. A fine little player who we still haven't replaced.
Brent Stephens
22 Posted 10/06/2016 at 17:59:11
They've all been valuable players in their different ways. Best wishes to all.
Ken Buckley
23 Posted 10/06/2016 at 18:00:28
The end of an era.
Good luck lads in whatever you do next.
I have seen almost every game they have played in and no matter how they did on the day you always knew you were watching as big Everton fans as any of us.

Thanks lads.

Dominic Tonge
24 Posted 10/06/2016 at 18:04:14
I blame Kone and Niasse for this!

Seriously though, three great servants, and two of my favourite Goodison goals were scored by two of these players. Osman v larissa, and tony hibbert's free kick against Athens. Cheers boys, good effort and good luck.

Peter Morris
25 Posted 10/06/2016 at 18:05:21
The reality is in retrospect the deals they got last time was one deal too many. Loved Hibbo's little cameo in the last but one home game, and Ossie got a much deserved England cap to show off to his grandkids. If you are going back to SA Steven, make sure you steer clear of the street muggers. They like picking on little people.
God Bless all three of you.
Brin Williams
26 Posted 10/06/2016 at 18:07:53
When Father Time catches up with you - it's time to go.

Thanks lads - enjoy life!

Duncan McDine
27 Posted 10/06/2016 at 18:08:35
All good things come to an end. Makes me feel very old that I remember watching Ossie and Hibbo play under 18's football like it was yesterday! It was clear back then that they'd both be good first teamers, especially Leon (Tony generally played centre-mid in the youth games I saw).

I imagine we'll see them back at Everton in one way or another in the future.

As for Pienaar, he was my favourite player for most of his first spell here, so also wish him the best.

As others have mentioned, I'm staggered that Gibbo isn't joining them.

Christopher Timmins
28 Posted 10/06/2016 at 18:15:50
Best of luck boys you were all great servants and hopefully you can all represent the club in some other capacity in the future.

For what its worth I reckon that Koeman is calling the shots, there is no way Gibson would have got a deal unless he approved it.

Paul Kossoff
29 Posted 10/06/2016 at 18:17:48
Kone and McGeady should be next out the door.

I wonder if these three will be replaced by players from the Under-21s?

Mike Gaynes
30 Posted 10/06/2016 at 18:18:56
Three brilliant competitors who have honored their Everton shirts in every way possible. Gentlemen, it's been a pleasure... thanks for everything.

I wouldn't be surprised to see Hibbo and Ossie back with us at some point as coaches for the youngsters... they'd be great examples. As for Pienaar, can't see him hanging up his boots yet... he won't want to end his career after three years of chronic injury. Maybe home to the South African league?

Mike Gaynes
31 Posted 10/06/2016 at 18:21:11
As for Gibbo, he's only 28 and showed late in the season that he can still take a place in the side when needed. I doubt he came expensive, and with Besic a chronic crock and none of the youngsters coming up being a defensive mid, his signing seems a reasonable precaution.
Bob Hannigan
32 Posted 10/06/2016 at 18:22:19
On the one hand, too bad. On the other hand, it is time for the separation.
All 3 provided some great memories.
Jon Hirshman
33 Posted 10/06/2016 at 18:31:44
I feel no need like a lot of others on this site to comment on their abilities, just offer thanks to all 3 for all their outstanding dedication to the cause over the last few years.
Minik Hansen
34 Posted 10/06/2016 at 18:33:11
I feel a bit sad like many are.. When it's time, it's time. I started to support Everton in 2007 and my first full attention of a whole season in 08/09, Pienaar, Hibbert and Osman shined through. Thanks for being part of my good start of supporting Everton. COYB.
Dick Brady
35 Posted 10/06/2016 at 18:33:26
Three really good servants to the club. Hibbert and Osman were home grown players who showed real loyalty to Everton. Many other youngsters (Jeffers, Ball, Dunne, Rodwell and Rooney) would be seduced away by the lure of money but Hibbert and Osman were a constant at Everton.

In many ways the foundation of the team. Sad to see them go and I think personally I would have offered Osman a one year deal.
Steve Bingham
36 Posted 10/06/2016 at 18:38:04
My thanks, respect and very best wishes for the future to all.
Peter McCann
37 Posted 10/06/2016 at 18:38:15
Three great players in their time. I wish them all well. Osman and Hibbert especially were real Evertonians but time waits for no man. Good luck and thanks for the memories
Dean Edwards
38 Posted 10/06/2016 at 18:41:25
Finally! Should have been let go after the 2009 cup final when Hibbo and Ossie were torn a new one!
Tommy Coleman
39 Posted 10/06/2016 at 18:43:17
All the best lads!

Thanks.

Matt Garen
40 Posted 10/06/2016 at 18:50:26
As has been said, Pienaar was a very good footballer and going to Spurs was a terrible career move for him. The other 2 deserve credit for carving out their respective careers in the premier league. They should be wished well in whatever they move on to do and I'm sure will always be welcome at the amazing new waterfront stadium :-)
William Cartwright
41 Posted 10/06/2016 at 18:50:51
True Blues who will be remembered with appreciation. Ossie on his day one of the cleverest players on the ball I have ever seen. Hibbo one of the best tacklers, and Pienaar simply one of the best.
Jay Harris
42 Posted 10/06/2016 at 18:53:03
All three wore the shirt with pride and I am sure we all wish them well for the future and thank them for their sterling service.

I wouldnt mind Hibbo and Ossie helping out with coaching the kids and I am sure Peanuts will want to see out his time back home.

Thanks and good luck lads.

Colin Glassar
43 Posted 10/06/2016 at 18:57:19
Hardly the Holy Trinity but great servants all the same. Good luck in the future lads.
Jay Wood
44 Posted 10/06/2016 at 18:59:17
Three top players, with Hibbo and Ossie two great stalwarts of the club.

Although they played through trophyless years at the club, each contributed to many happy memories in their own way.

A few holes for the new manager to fill in the squad.

Chelsea have a few they probably don't need ... an astonishing EIGHTY-TWO players retained by the pensioners. Absurd.

Andrew Gaule
45 Posted 10/06/2016 at 19:03:06
All three were great players although all, like most players, had limitations.

Osman always got a bad rap on this site. God only knows why.

Hibbert was a great tackler. Not such a good crosser.

Pienaar was a lovely intricate passer of the ball and overall link player but lacked pace which especially hindered him when tracking back.

Although it's the end of their PL career I am sad to see them go.

End of an Era.

Paul Smith
46 Posted 10/06/2016 at 19:05:03
Must echo much of what has already been said. 3 great servants. In all honesty they probably stayed a year too long but thanks for the memories.

Wish all released good luck in their futures.
Peter Gorman
47 Posted 10/06/2016 at 19:06:51
Wish them all the best where they go and what they do; very fond memories of all three.

Conor Skelly
48 Posted 10/06/2016 at 19:10:57
Really is the end of an Era. Three players who were all instrumental to the change the team went through under Moyes and for the better I think most will agree.

Hibbo was a great right back in his day. He could really defend one-on-one as good as anyone and could also cross the ball, which is more than I can say for Coleman.

As for the other two. Pienaar, Ossie & Arteta could actually play a bit. I think it was with these players that we switched from being dogs of war/shite to something a little more sophisticated.

Ian Brandes
49 Posted 10/06/2016 at 19:16:08
Goodbye, lads, and thanks for everything. Best of luck in all you do next.

Sad that Ossie is not moving to the coaching side. He could teach kids how to read a game, and how to pass to your own side, which was woefully lacking last season.

Great blues, all three.

Mike Green
50 Posted 10/06/2016 at 19:19:01
All three frustrated me for different reasons but as a whole they all worked their socks off for the shirt, got their heads down and delivered to the best of their ability. I don't think you can ask for more than that. The were all extremely good players without that extra bit to make them great, but not for the want of trying.

Two of them were one club men, true Evertonians, and I wish all three of them well for the future.

Les Martin
51 Posted 10/06/2016 at 19:19:20
Excellent players who never let us down. I wish them luck wherever they move onto.
When the Manager is installed I feel there will be others moving too, so it going to an interesting squad come August
David Chait
52 Posted 10/06/2016 at 19:25:29
Nothing but respect for all 3!
I remember osman seemed to be in the score sheet every reserve game and eventually got his chance.
Hibbert was defensively was superb
And my fellow Saffa Piebaar brought awesome footwork and touch to probably the best partnership this club has had in many years with Baines.

I always wanted to see Pienaar in behind the striker pulling the strings as he did for Bafana bafana and I think we missed that opportunity.

Will miss all 3! Great servants!

Trevor Lynes
53 Posted 10/06/2016 at 19:25:44
These three real professionals have served our club brilliantly. I will never forget how well Pienaar stepped up to the plate when Arteta was out injured.

All three can hold their heads up as they have always given 100%.

Raymond Fox
54 Posted 10/06/2016 at 19:26:49
Osman, was/is a very underrated in my eyes, always had a soft spot for him as a player. The club know him better than I, but I thought he would end up on the coaching staff.

Maybe he wants to carry on playing for a season or two in a lower League, or even for a club like Burnley, he'd still be an asset for them.

All the best to all three of them.

Ian Bennett
55 Posted 10/06/2016 at 19:29:19
Best of luck to all 3, loyal servants to our club. Great service over the years, I hope we see some back in other capacity with youth or just a half time waive.
Colin Hughes
56 Posted 10/06/2016 at 19:29:55
Now for Kone , Niasse, Mcgeady and Jagielka to be shown the door, three not good enough and one too old and slow to be expected to win you things.No room for sentiment anymore, Baines may have one more season at best.
Paul Conway
57 Posted 10/06/2016 at 19:31:24
Sorry folks, my apologies. My comment @ 7 didn't mean any disrespect to the three leaving, who deserve all the credit for their efforts over the years.

My comment was a reference to some players who are still with us, yet have contributed nothing and are paid silly money!

Tim Greeley
58 Posted 10/06/2016 at 19:32:37
Similar to Minrik above I came into the Everton fold late in the noughties (thanks FIFA '08!) and these three have been the stalwarts (other than Pienaar's ill advised Kid Icarus flight with Spurs).

Plus Tim Howard of course. I actually kind of loved Ossie some of the time, great balls skills, played with heart but still had a laugh. Tim Cahill was/is my main man out of that bunch though. Where was I?

Oh yeah. I think Moshri caught wind of all of the "Hibbo scores, we riot" vibe and decided quickly to send him back to the carp farm. Good times. Wait, are we sure Hibbo is not on the England Euro team?
Ray Robinson
59 Posted 10/06/2016 at 19:32:45
All the best to all three of them! Osman will still do a job for a Premiership side, provided the rest of the team has the legs to do his running. If he'd been bigger, faster and more physical he'd have been a truly class player because he possesses genuine football intelligence. Might have done even better abroad in a less physical league.

Colin #56. Jagielka?!! Really? Our (still) best defender by a country mile!!

Chris Owens
60 Posted 10/06/2016 at 19:38:20
Many thanks to all 3 players for their years of service to our club. Best wishes to Steven Pienaar if he does return to South Africa. I hope Tony Hibbert and Leon Osman can come to a suitable arrangement with the new management to stay on in a coaching capacity (if that's what they want). They are Everton through and through; something we need to hang onto in this time of change.
Joe McMahon
61 Posted 10/06/2016 at 19:40:36
Dick (35) as far as im aware no one has tried to sign Osman or Hibbert during all their time at Everton, so yes they were loyal. SP was a fantastic player in his prime, one of my fave Everton Midfield players.
Colin Malone
62 Posted 10/06/2016 at 19:44:56
A fit Gibson is a Koeman type player, fast passer of the ball for runners up top, with excellent vision. He knows where to pass before the ball comes to him, never dwells on the ball, which suits RK fast game. Right decision.
Guy Hastings
64 Posted 10/06/2016 at 19:53:27
When Hibbo scores... probably for Rotherham against us in the Cup when Stubbs signs him up. He could do worse than taking Ossie, too. Loved all three of them. Always will.
Steve Guy
65 Posted 10/06/2016 at 19:56:19
Great memories from all three. Pienaar and Baines were lethal combo in their prime. Ossie ? Class. Hibbo ? Legend.

Thanks guys and best of luck in whatever you choose to do next.

Andy Walker
66 Posted 10/06/2016 at 19:56:38
Fair enough, they were great in their day but their day is past. Just keep the players that are worth something to another club, like Gibbo.
Antony Matthews
67 Posted 10/06/2016 at 19:58:28
Shit...there was me hoping for a riot. Good luck Boys.
Doug Harris
68 Posted 10/06/2016 at 20:04:01
Leon Osman, great little player; Tony Hibbert, all heart; and Steven Pienaar, trickery at its best. All three have played their part. Time moves on for all of us. Thank you.

I will always remember that goal of Ossie's at Macclesfield, FA Cup 3rd Round, 2009. We won 1-0... We are in white:

www.youtube.com/watch?v=o-Q6b2l92oo

Mike Allison
69 Posted 10/06/2016 at 20:04:54
I remember watching the Hibbert/Osman central midfield partnership in the Youth Cup in 1998.

They should be kept at the club to develop as coaches within our youth system.

Michael Polley
70 Posted 10/06/2016 at 20:41:34
Great servants to the club over the years. Good luck guys. Now for Kone to be offloaded.
Damian Wilde
71 Posted 10/06/2016 at 20:44:43
In his day I never understood why many on here consistently bashed Osman. Very good player.
Jack Convery
72 Posted 10/06/2016 at 21:01:27
Hibbo old style Right back and a great Evertonian - tight lines Hibbo.

Osman with pace would have been brill yet he still managed to carve out a decent career – an England Cap and I'll always remember that Euro League Goal. Great servant who hopefully will get another season somewhere else.

Pienaar – great player for us and South Africa. He and Baines had one of the great understandings of Everton. Badly advised when he went to Spurs. Redknapp just wanted to fuck up the link up with Baines as EFC were a threat to Spurs at the time – how many times did he play for them ? If memory serves me he tried for Baines too. Pienaar always reliable in a derby – never shirked a tackle – ask Carragher. Good luck Steven a privilege to see you in blue shirt.

Jamie Crowley
73 Posted 10/06/2016 at 21:03:24
God this is weird... this is like "the beginning" of Everton finding me... and now those guys who were starting then are moving on.

I always thought, but never said it too loudly, that Osman was our most gifted technical player and was completely wasted out wide by Moyes. I also thought, again none too loudly, Pienaar should have always played in the middle and not out wide.

I honestly think Pienaar, Osman, and Arteta should have been our triangle of death midfield, with Arteta in the holding role.

Yes, it would have been light weight, but Jesus the technical skill would have been sublime to watch.

Dave Abrahams
74 Posted 10/06/2016 at 21:08:26
Guy (64) I think Stubbsy will take Ossie then maybe think about Tony Hibbert, there must be doubts about his fitness considering the few times he has played over the lat few years,

Good luck to them, decent player for the Blues, but not in the same class as Pienaar who was top notch in my opinion, think he might get a deal at his former club Ajax.

Jamie Crowley
75 Posted 10/06/2016 at 21:08:52
One other thought... When Hibbo was in this last game - and people were just baying for Roberto's head because of it - and the dark, dark clouds were above all things Everton as it was all SO shit...

I so desperately wanted someone fouled in the box, and Hibbo to step up, take the pen, and just hammer it home.

I would have literally lost my shit.

Some things were just not meant to happen.

Denis Richardson
76 Posted 10/06/2016 at 21:18:22
Served us well in the past but I can't help but think of the millions we paid them in wages for the last two seasons, when the three combined hardly even played.

Not having a go at the players but we really are a club that wastes money left, right and centre on aged players that hardly play. Why can't we do what clubs like Arsenal and Chelsea do and only offer 1 year rolling contracts to players over 32 or 33. At least it would keep them hungry to earn another contract.

Gibson is another example - still in disbelief we gave him a two year contract!

Jose Walsh
77 Posted 10/06/2016 at 21:25:27
Three hard working genuine Evertonians.

Apart from Pienaar's move they gave many good year's loyal service. They shame the likes of mercenary Lukaku.

Now what about Kone, McGeady and Robles?

Sadly, I think we are stuck with Niasse for some time because no other club in world football will pay even half of what we did and we can't write of £13 million.

Chris Sinnott
78 Posted 10/06/2016 at 22:00:58
Denis (#76) – you can only play 11 men at a time so if they are not playing that doesn't mean they don't want to. Reading Osman's book, you can tell he is not interested in the money. We have hardly thrown money away by rewarding loyal players.
Eric Holland
79 Posted 10/06/2016 at 22:05:12
No riot then.....
James Flynn
80 Posted 10/06/2016 at 22:16:13
Jamie (75) - You saw the old indestructible one himself, Gordie Howe passed away?
Dave Lynch
81 Posted 10/06/2016 at 22:18:13
They've earned a lot of money over the past 2-3 seasons for doing little.

Truth is... 2 of them have stayed 2 seasons to long and the other should never have been re- signed.

They don't need our wishes, just a good accountant and a few decent investments, rich enough to retire at 35ish.

What a dream.

Dave Pritchard
82 Posted 10/06/2016 at 22:21:02
Dean 38, you are a miserable so-and-so. That phrase you use is overused on here and is my least favourite.

Agree with the majority that it is the right decision to let them go. Ossie will get a game at a lower Premier League team or a decent Championship side. Hibbo probably retiring from playing and Pienaar also unless he can prove his fitness.

Mark Cooper
83 Posted 10/06/2016 at 22:23:56
Three good lads, served the club well. Hopefully they can play out their remaining careers at a more suitable level. Always be welcome back as fans.
Patrick Murphy
84 Posted 10/06/2016 at 22:31:18
Hopefully in this so called brave new world we won't have to retain these types of players for so long, as mentioned earlier all three were in and around the team in 2009 and yet they along with others remained on our books for another 7 years, they all gave of their best and gave us some pretty good memories, but ultimately if Everton are to improve they can't have so many who contribute so little for so long.

That's not a slur on any of the three lads, it's more a comment of the standards that have to be set if we are to achieve more in the near future than we have in the recent past. Good luck to all three but remember each of them will have pretty healthy bank-balances to ease their pain.

Timothy Blanshard
85 Posted 10/06/2016 at 22:36:15
I've always thought it's a nice idea to have local lads in the side, obviously they have to be good enough, thankfully we have some brilliant young lads coming through to carry on their legacy.

I wish all three the best of luck in anything they pursue next. Having supported the Blues for 45 years, I can honestly say I keep thinking I'm dreaming because the future looks so brilliant.

Tony Doran
86 Posted 10/06/2016 at 22:36:40
A bronze statue of Hibbo doing one of his sliding tackles would look nice. Preferably with creasehead the resipient.
Trevor Lynes
87 Posted 10/06/2016 at 22:45:58
How can anyone see Gibson as class? He had a poor game for his country a few days ago and makes Heitinga look quick. Barry is streets ahead of him in ability and Man Utd must have been absolutely delighted to see the back of him.

Gibson should never have had a contract extension, he has shown himself as unprofessional and has hardly played a full game in all the time he has been with us. He and McGeady should be emptied out along with a few other nonentities.

Osman, Hibbert and Pienaar were different class compared to those wasters.

James Flynn
88 Posted 10/06/2016 at 23:01:56
Mike (30) - I'd like to see Pienaar over here in MLS.

You saw Old Indestructible, Gordie Howe, passed away?

Paddy Howlin
89 Posted 10/06/2016 at 23:09:06
All 3 players where good servants to the club. Pienaar during 2009-10 when Arteta was injured was absolute class and stepped up his game to a different level and carried our team creatively at the time.

I could understand why he opted to leave the first time around, when Arteta was given a club record contract a year later and he wasn't offered a similar deal or terms. Some good flashes the 2nd time round (particularly when on loan), but sadly he never reached the peak or consistency of his first spell. I hope he gets a last payday in China or MLS where he may still have something to offer in a less demanding league.

Osman was undervalued as a player and if we had signed him rather than developed him, I'm sure he would have been appreciated. Delighted he got his England cap. Can't really see him or Hibbo playing anywhere else, but you never know they may end up with Stubbs at Rotherham. Hopefully they will be given a chance in the future to coach our youngsters in the academy. Both players gave their all for Everton over 20 years as kids and men. A quality in the modern game lacking so much.

Best of luck to the three of them.

Mark Dunford
90 Posted 10/06/2016 at 23:12:16
Really nice to see so many tributes to three great servants. No shock in Hibbert and Pienaar going, though I was slightly surprised to see Osman depart - felt he could possibly have offered something off the bench in the new era, and possibly more than the talented by usually crocked Gibson. Always thought Osman was too often underrated – a consistent goalscorer who had the real guile that too few of his contemporaries possessed. Good luck to all of them.

This really does feel like a change. Unlike the start of the Martinez era.

Tony Draper
91 Posted 10/06/2016 at 23:12:55
Hibbo, Ossie and 'Nuts all good lads in their time.

Hibbo could defend and is a proper Blue.

Ossie, definately squeezed out just about all he could from his gifts and physique. EVERYONE who has met this guy will attest that he's immensely likeable.

'Nuts, utterly sublime and his partnership with Baines was a sheer joy in a fairly workmanlike side.

Thanks lads, whatever you do next, I sincerely hope that you enjoy every minute of it.

Ernie Baywood
92 Posted 10/06/2016 at 23:18:34
Agree with what's been said above. It feels quite saddening for them to be released, even if we know it's the right call. In fact, they should have gone years ago but were not replaced.

Obviously the local lads get a lot of deserved praise for their service, but I loved Pienaar as a player.

In a team that didn't always play great passing football he was the one prepared to be brave and hold onto the ball. I always remember us getting battered by Arsenal at Goodison after the Lescott debacle - eventually the heads went down and the effort slowed... except for Pienaar who chased and harried right across midfield. The partnership he formed with Baines was incredible and even in his later years he looked one of our better players when he came into the side. Such a smart, hard working player.

Gerry Quinn
93 Posted 10/06/2016 at 23:21:24
I blame Moshiri.
Sam Hoare
94 Posted 10/06/2016 at 23:25:25
Some happy memories of all 3. Hibbo was a stalwart, Ossie a perennially underrated playmaker and Pienaar one of the best players here over the last decade.

Stevie P in his prime was a joy to behold and has never been replaced in my mind on that left wing.

Kieran Kinsella
95 Posted 10/06/2016 at 23:27:06
Koeman ain't got time to write his name on an Everton contract but he's got time to write a column in tomorrow's Mirror.
Peter Bell
96 Posted 10/06/2016 at 23:29:33
What's even more sad is that two of the lads have been with Everton since they were kids, and yet never got the send-off that our incompetent keeper got after 10 years of costing us points.
Mark Ryan
97 Posted 10/06/2016 at 23:32:59
Correct decision made. All three gave of their best and hopefully will find employment elsewhere. As for the rest of the squad, I'm sure we have not seen the last of the proposed summer departures just yet and of course we have not seen any of Mr Koemans wish list arrive either. Exciting times.

I'm enjoying the moment. I am not remotely concerned about the delayed unveiling of RK and I am finding it really refreshing that the press are really struggling to make stories up. Man Utd have not properly unveiled Mourinho to the worlds press and won't do until after the Euros have finished. Whats wrong with us doing that?

Make a statement next week and then simply crack on with a summer of stripping out the dead wood and bringing in the new players that we can now easily afford. I am very at peace with the whole situation. Moyes, ancient history, Martinez, best forgotten. Moving forward. Happy days...

Anthony Dwyer
98 Posted 10/06/2016 at 23:44:41
All decent servants but about time.

I'd have done Gibson too myself, and look to sell Oviedo, McGeady and Kone.

They certainly wouldn't gain us a big amount of money, but saving there wages alone would put us in a stronger position.

We've had a bit of a shake up, but a big shake up would be better.

David Donnellan
100 Posted 10/06/2016 at 00:14:48
I noticed that as well Keiran #95

Best of luck & many thanks for the memories to the 3 of them. It really is an end of an era, I think I am right in saying that Hibbo was the last remaining player in the squad to have played first team football under Walter Smith, incredible! Maybe he can get the early morning talksport spot at the weekends hosting fisherman's blues now.

All three good Everton players in their own way, hopefully see them back in the future in some capacity.

Dan Davies
102 Posted 11/06/2016 at 00:39:54
Kieran and David, don't wanna come across as a know it all or anything but a lot of columns written by sports people have what they call 'ghost writers'.

Koeman could just give his opinion on certain things down the phone line and a column gets written under his name.

Sports people also have something similar when writing autobiographies. If however I'm wrong I will eat humble pie and apologise.

James Flynn
103 Posted 11/06/2016 at 01:03:33
All the best to the three of them.

Genuine professionals.

Ron Marr
104 Posted 11/06/2016 at 01:08:25
Best wishes to all three.
Timothy Blanshard
105 Posted 11/06/2016 at 03:53:33
Great servants to our club, I remember when Stevie P came back to us on loan and was asked to say a few words at the end of the last game of the season, he was asked what he thought of the club and was in tears when asked if he would like to come back to us from Spurs, he said yes.

We took him to our hearts and he certainly loved playing for us. All the best or the future lads.
Mark Siddons
106 Posted 11/06/2016 at 03:58:07
There is talk here in SA that Steven may be joining Orlando Pirates, one of the better teams in the country. If true, a good move for him. Best wishes to all three.
David Donnellan
107 Posted 11/06/2016 at 05:13:59
You're probably right Dan #102, I was just browsing through the mirror's sports pages yesterday and read that Koeman was going to do a column for them as Keiran alluded to. Nothing wrong with that, as long as he doesn't spend his summer analysing the euro's, ala Martinez 2014 world cup, when I would like to see more of his time devoted to getting us up & running for the coming season.
Anto Byrne
108 Posted 11/06/2016 at 05:27:04
Hibbo can retire into comfort and go fishing, maybe do some scouting or be an ambassador for the club. Osman has a couple of years playing as does Pienaar so why not over in the US? It is not like they are skint and have to sign on the dole? So what about the likes of Kone and McGeady? Will Koeman have a role for them?
Dave Ganley
109 Posted 11/06/2016 at 05:45:20
Just to reiterate what most others have said. Great servants to the club and go with my good wishes. They understood Everton through and through and Pienaar's partnership with Baines was a joy to watch.

Ossie, much maligned. Guess he was an easy target for the boo boys but put everything into his performances. Sometimes not good enough, other times excellent. Goals against Man City and Larissa were a treat.

Hibby, well what can you say. Really good full back. Not many got the better of him but unfortunately the final at Wembley 2009 completely highlighted his deficiencies, namely his pace or lack thereof. But he was a great servant as they all were. Good luck boys

Jim Hardin
110 Posted 11/06/2016 at 06:29:06
Three class players in their day. Wish injuries had not played such a large part over the last 3-4 years for them, but age and wear and tear catch up. Thanks for the memories and the service to Everton. I wish each of them the best for the future.

As for the young players being released, I have always wondered about spending years as a teenager at an academy only to be released and not being able to leave by choice. I hope it is not as devastating an experience as I imagine it to be. I do not know enough about them but hope they go on to success either at another club or in some other occupation.

Paul Setter
111 Posted 11/06/2016 at 06:58:58
I'm gutted about Osman. In my opinion, he deserved a final season and clearly I mentioned this to him, so he knows what is going on. I expect he has been worried about this a lot recently. The other two are the same but they probably knew the inevitable.

Osman never grumbled about being out of position, scored the odd goal and offered more in half a season being fit than that useless wage thief James McCarthy has in three seasons.

Mike Mulhall
112 Posted 11/06/2016 at 07:02:32
The more I think about it the more this is probably the biggest player overhaul in 20 yrs plus. Koeman has been there before successfully so the jig saw piece fits many respects.

Exciting times ahead, a new team, a new era, nsno, coyb!

Billy McEvoy
113 Posted 11/06/2016 at 07:10:31
Sat next to Hibbert on a plane on Tuesday and he was on crutches then and he's only played half a game.
Andy Walker
114 Posted 11/06/2016 at 07:34:51
Kieran 95, you actually think he sits down and provides the copy for the editor? Heard of ghost writers?

The column will be written by some hack who may, or may not, email the final version for a cursory peer review from the man himself.

Koeman is not in this country, he needs to be in this country to sign the papers but more importantly, be announced to the world at a big press conference at GP. This is the biggest managerial appointment our club has ever made in a global football context. The appointment needs to be launched at a presser that will get seen around the world, bit different to appointing Martinez. We are now a big club again in terms of money and ambition. As fans we need to reset our minds to think big and ditch the parochial tendencies we have all shown in the past.

Tony Cheek
115 Posted 11/06/2016 at 08:01:54
As it should be I suppose if we are to move on. Bit gutted for Ossie as I am sure he could be a good squaddie next season. Absolutely sure the dressing room wont be the same without him either! Thanks for everything Lads, have a good retirement, you all deserve it!
Tony Cheek
116 Posted 11/06/2016 at 08:26:58
And I was just going to say, although Osman and Hibbert have become icons at Everton, they have also had to tolerate tons of abuse (self-included) through the years, a lot of it here on TW. Especially the period when Ossie was grossly mis-used by Moyes as wide right midfield and Hibbo was constantly criticised for keeping an up-and-coming Coleman out of the team.
Brin Williams
117 Posted 11/06/2016 at 08:35:41
These releases show me that the decision making machinery at Everton is still in place, well oiled and running smoothly after the departure of Martinez and despite the fact that the new man has yet to be publicly crowned.

Pretty sure there would have been some referral to the new man prior to these announcements, after all he may have opted for Hibbo if Lukaku goes.

Thomas Surgenor
118 Posted 11/06/2016 at 08:44:32
It really is an end of an era.
Just another point, arteta hung up his boots this summer too. Only really tiny Tim is still going now.

Haven't a bad word to say about that generation. I just hope that Hibbert enjoys his fishing, osman decides he wants to coach and that Pienaar finds his pay day.

Andy Codling
119 Posted 11/06/2016 at 08:56:55
I don't understand this great servant thing. Hibbert and Osman were very average players who have become multi millionaires. Hibbert owns a private fishery in France on the back of being dog average. I do not recall other clubs banging down the door for their services over the years. I have nothing against either player personally but is staying put on thousands of pounds a week really loyal?
I find it amazing that some people think they should stay on to coach the team like we owe them a living! They have both been very lucky individuals and now bye bye!


David Heaton
120 Posted 11/06/2016 at 09:05:49
Football is a business and we all love players that show affinity to the club but those two have not been premiership standard for a few years now and have happily taken their wages not looked for another club for more playing time nor has any other club offered them a deal, They should have been offloaded years ago they have literary stolen money from Everton supporters. Like many others have in the past.
Mark Andrews
121 Posted 11/06/2016 at 09:06:32
Good bye and good luck lads. Thanks for all you did for us.

There are some proper shameful comments on this thread. Show some humility and class and stop moaning for once.

Sam Morrison
122 Posted 11/06/2016 at 09:18:11
Like many have said, feels like the end of an era. Osman under-rated by many and regularly played out of position by Moyes. Someone above mentioned a three-man central midfield of Arteta, Pienaar and Osman - I'd have liked to have seen that.

All three were part of a team that actually played like a one, and always put in a shift despite their often-magnified limitations. I'll miss them.

At the same time, it feels part of the sea change of freshening up the squad and, I hope, elevating us to a level where we are competing for top four, rather than top-half.

John Otway
123 Posted 11/06/2016 at 09:23:24
Andy Codling 119. You're right you don't understand this great servant thing.
Mike Powell
124 Posted 11/06/2016 at 09:36:42
They were good servants to our club, but are past their sell-by date. Good luck to the three of you and thanks for everything. Come on, lads – give them some respect.
Andy Codling
125 Posted 11/06/2016 at 09:46:47
John your right about me being right , I personally didn't want to see either of them again after the 2009 cup final!
Joe Ainsworth
126 Posted 11/06/2016 at 09:58:38
Andy (#119), do you think, when Tony Hibbert was playing footy in the street with his mates as a kid, he was dreaming of owning a French fishery?

Him and Leon Osman are just ordinary lads who fulfilled lifelong ambitions to play professional football for their childhood team.

The fact that they happened to be born at a time when obscene amounts of money have flooded into the game is immaterial. To suggest either of them is 'dog average' when both managed to sustain top flight status throughout their entire careers is ludicrous.

And they weren't lucky either, they were talented, and clearly managed to get the best out of themselves through plenty of hard work and dedication. The phrase that comes to my mind is 'model professionals'.

Why you, and thankfully only a handful of others, would choose to slate two players who have clocked up more than 700 games between them on the day they leave the club is beyond me.

John Graham
127 Posted 11/06/2016 at 10:01:45
Have all been good servants to the club although with Pienaar it was more in his first stint. Don't think any would earn a first team spot so guess they had to go. Can't run a club on sentiment, but it is sad.
Let's hope this will make room for a few incoming, and guess a few more will be heading for the exit door once the new manager gets his feet under the table.
Geoff Trenner
128 Posted 11/06/2016 at 10:21:30
Victor released by West Brom! Sign him up!!
Dave Williams
129 Posted 11/06/2016 at 11:18:36
Andy #119 clearly not a sentimentalist then! I see where you're coming from but nonetheless Ossie and Hibbo were dyed in the wool blues and always gave 100% which is more than can be said for some of their current colleagues.

Sam #122 you sum it all up very nicely for me- great servants and decent players whilst never being superstars but no doubt the pillars of the club. We must move forward and clearing the decks of the over 30s like these three plus Tim is necessary. Kone and McGeady will hopefully go too ( not at the end of their contracts so to release them would mean paying up the full term) and I doubt that there will be many tears shed.

The most important question is where the hell is Ronald?????

Hugh Jenkins
130 Posted 11/06/2016 at 11:22:10
Kieran (95). It will only be his name and photo on the byline. In this day and age, he can phone through his "views" on questions raised by a representative from the paper and a "ghost" writer will actually type up the copy based on Koeman's views. It will, take, at most, ten minutes of Koeman's time and will probably have been done whilst he was lying at the poolside.
Tom Bowers
131 Posted 11/06/2016 at 11:31:48
They are all from an era we want to forget.
Yes they were consummate professionals and had their moments but also had deficiencies that contributed to an average consistency record.
Pienaar probably had the class but second time around was always going to be a struggle
Age catches up to all of us, even I had to hang up my boots at 60.
With Tim Howard gone also, I suspect one or two others will be sold off.
We are entering a new era which we all hope will be a big step upwards with new improved blood coming in at all levels.
Tony Abrahams
132 Posted 11/06/2016 at 11:46:59
Victor released? He looked like he could become a good player, especially with his back to goal. Obviously never wanted it enough. I always think what a player he could have been, if he would have had a heart like his mate James Vaughan?

Tom, that first sentence sums it up perfectly. Let's look to the future, and hopefully rejoice!

Sam Brennan
133 Posted 11/06/2016 at 11:59:13
I would like to say a big thanks to all for their efforts of the years, especially Ossie and Hibbo. Ossie was often slated by most of the fans but he was a fantastic footballer with a great footballing brain. Something which our current midfield lacks!
Danny O'Neill
134 Posted 11/06/2016 at 12:41:15
I'll chip in here. I echo the sentiments of all; they have each been great servants to the club through a drawn out and difficult transitional / stabilisation period, particularly Osman and Hibbert who faced a lot of criticism from their own.

Hibbert was a traditional right back operating in an era that demandedattacking full backs. Not his fault, maybe the manager who picked him and tactics.

Osman. Well I'm going to put myself out to be hung but I've said it before. Possibly one of the most technically gifted but least appreciated English players of his generation. But he lived in an English football culture that demands all players must run fast, be powerful, get stuck in, track back and be Messi; all at the same time for 90 minutes every game of the season (primacy focus being on the physical attributes). Ross suffers from it now

Having spent a lot of time abroad I have often wondered how successful a player like Osman would have been had he grown up in somewhere like Germany where his talent would probably have been better appreciated and developed.

English football; that's why it's so successful on the international stage right?

Terry Underwood
135 Posted 11/06/2016 at 12:48:28
Thanks guys
Terry McLavey
136 Posted 11/06/2016 at 12:49:40
Always sad to lose players that are true blues, but what an honour to wear the shirt you actually love!

Great players when at their best, thanks to all three, and thank you for your goals, even Hibbo's one!

Anto Byrne
137 Posted 11/06/2016 at 12:55:14
Have to laugh at saving wages and costing millions. These guys made it to the very top level as footballers. How I would have loved to have been a professional footballer probably like many others here on TW.

We have a new regime, new manager and owner. It looks like the level of professionalism has been raised to level not seen since Littlewoods. It's going to be an interesting summer of coming and goings.

Daniel Joseph
138 Posted 11/06/2016 at 13:32:17
See you in the Brit Ozzie - See you at the lake Hibbo
A r*d who seen the light and a true Blue. Thanks lads
Mike Oates
139 Posted 11/06/2016 at 13:42:48
Just who is running the show at Goodison. Whilst we all agree their time was up, this was not the way to do it. With nearly 40 years service between them, they should have been told before the last game and we could have all have give them a great send off.
Danny O'Neill
140 Posted 11/06/2016 at 14:08:32
Moshiri Mike welcome to the brave new world where he is the saviour from evil Bill who has done nothing but apparently try to destroy the club since he took over. As per one of my previous comments on a different thread, I hope we don't sell our soul as per Chelsea / Man City. Let us never become arrogant or classless
Jamie Crowley
141 Posted 11/06/2016 at 14:35:53
Flynn all the way back at 80 -

Yes I saw Gordie, at 88, passed on. The Iron Man of hockey... That dude was so gifted and so tough.

I think a hell of a lot of footballers would do really well to watch clips of that man playing his respective sport. Tough as nails. It's the one thing I can never wrap my head around - the rolling around in agony due to the slightest of touches in soccer.

Gordie Howe, even if he couldn't drop the gloves were he a footballer, would just shame the shit out of anyone pulling those shenanigans.

Had Howe played soccer, he'd have made Roy Keane look a flower. Soccer needs more of that in my opinion.

Colin Glassar
142 Posted 11/06/2016 at 14:56:37
Just heard about the way they were informed, via text messages from mates, and think it is disgusting the way the club has gone about this (if true). I hope someone at Goodison clears this up and offers them a public apology.
Mike Green
143 Posted 11/06/2016 at 14:57:26
Jamie #141 - it's quite simple really, its called cheating. No more, no less. And unfortunately its ingrained in the game now, which is a real shame but there we are.
Ernie Baywood
144 Posted 11/06/2016 at 15:03:29
Struggling to imagine that could be true, Colin. I mean their contracts ending wouldn't have been a surprise and I'm sure there would have been discussions of some form (despite what Nuts might say).

That said, both clearly deserved an on pitch farewell.

Ray Said
145 Posted 11/06/2016 at 15:06:45
I hope the rumours are not true about how the players were told about their contracts were not to be renewed. If true then the Chief Executive should hang his head in shame and offer the lads an apology. No employee,whether they are the cleaner or a millionaire footballer, should be treated with such disrespect.
Steve Johnson
146 Posted 11/06/2016 at 15:41:05
Now we can move to those we expect a fee for. I expect to see McGeady and others to be moved on.
Loko Sanchez
147 Posted 11/06/2016 at 15:43:40
If the club knew that they would not renew the contracts, why didnt they get a proper send off like Howard did? Disgusting! Has money turned this club into another plastic club like man city. Absolutely disgraceful!
Colin Glassar
148 Posted 11/06/2016 at 16:08:32
It might be rubbish, probably is, Ernie. I'd hope the club would behave in a more professional manner and tell them personally.
Teddy Bertin
149 Posted 11/06/2016 at 16:26:12
Pienaar: made up for his bad attitude with some class performances and his link up with Baines was one of the best pairings in PL. Sad end for a player of his class.

Hibbo: one of the greatest slide tacklers of all time but sadly let down by his lack of pace, stature, attacking instincts, dribbling, crossing and shooting ability. Put in some solid performances and a true servant to Everton. Loved him playing at CB for Moyes in Europe. Great days.

Osman: would have been truly worldclass if he had the body of Christiano Ronaldo. Sadly he didn't and as a result battled away in a very physical league trying to prove his quality at the team he loved. Often crucified by fans, begging for him to be dropped, he really should have gone and played in Spain, Italy or Holland, where he could have made a name for himself. Great lad and should take a lot of credit alongside Hibbo for some of the displays of real team spirit and determination under Moyes.

Good luck fellas. I know we've shouted you all down many times but we love you really.

Tony Hill
150 Posted 11/06/2016 at 16:26:36
This is the sort of problem I referred to yesterday on another thread. There appears to be no-one at the Club appointed to control what we have learned to call "the narrative". We used to have the former journalist, Ian Ross, who was very good at it. Who, if anyone, does it now?

The problem is that, whether this is true or not, we look messy and uncontrolled. If it is true, of course, then that would be worrying.

The sooner Mr Koeman arrives the better.

Jay Harris
151 Posted 11/06/2016 at 16:52:26
Colin
That story has only been in the Mirror so I would doubt that it is true however it does beg the question who is dealing with these matters since Martinez and his entourage were sent packing.

I cant imagine Unsy, Dunc or big Joe would allow that situation but maybe it was dealt with by Elstone.

Anyway I hope its not the last we have seen of Ossie and Hibbo who could be a big help with the kids.

Brian Cleveland
152 Posted 11/06/2016 at 17:36:53
It's in the mail too... Link

If true, not a nice way to go...

Danny O'Neill
153 Posted 11/06/2016 at 17:49:13
Great analysis Teddy
Steve Woods
154 Posted 11/06/2016 at 17:52:07
The way this has been handled seems the sort of thing our unloved and unlovely CEO would do. The sooner he is shown the door the better it will be for the club.
Paul Kossoff
155 Posted 11/06/2016 at 18:22:16
Utter bs in the Echo about Koeman 'revamping' Everton's attack by... playing Ross Barkley in a more forward role, in fact continuing to play him in the position he plays in.

Koeman hasn't even signed as manager yet, nor met the players nor taken a training session, and probably not talked to Barkley or any other Everton player or been to Goodison Park.

Odds on the Echo have not talked to Koeman either so how can they justify the headline 'Koeman to revamp Everton's attack'?

Mike Gaynes
156 Posted 11/06/2016 at 19:11:49
IF... and I emphasize IF... the reports are true, then it's either an unforgiveable oversight or truly contemptible behavior by the club towards two men who have set the standard for Everton class.

And Ernie is absolutely right... they both deserved a proper Goodison tribute. And a proper notification and handshake.

Dave Williams
157 Posted 11/06/2016 at 19:59:45
I find this hard to believe. I have a lot of business with various agents and they would have been in discussions with the club a while ago about whether or not contract extensions were to be negotiated and would be unlikely to just sit there and allow silence with their client's job about to end.

I would guess that the players knew full well that they were not to be retained but that there has been no ceremonial goodbye ( yet) from the club which is hardly surprising as everyone will be on holiday as is our manager elect.

That said the club has been very quiet in it's communication with us fans for pretty much 12 months now and hopefully they will address this as it must not be allowed to continue. Good communication with fans encourages the right atmosphere at the games- a look at Wales tonight shows how we should be.

Dave Williams
158 Posted 11/06/2016 at 20:02:07
Ps.
Having met Robert Elstone on a few occasions and chatted to him I must say he is a very nice and decent bloke and gets some unfair stick at times.
Ian Riley
159 Posted 12/06/2016 at 00:55:00
Can not believe these players did not know back in April or before. Sad day but they have served us well. All three played there part in our success but all great things come to an end. Osman especially for me personally.

The club is changing and it's what most wanted. Good business sense. Players not playing for months on 25-70000 a week are seeing out contracts. Good luck and good bye. It's not personal but business. Everton fc are entering new heights on and off the pitch.

It's not down to the CEO but higher than him. If these players agent's or themselves haven't asked the question of another contract back in January. I would be amazed if such talks didn't take place. Would anyone on here leave it to the last month to find out about employment?

Mike Gaynes
160 Posted 12/06/2016 at 01:17:47
Ian #159 and Dave #157, I have no doubt that you're correct -- both players probably knew this was coming. But the club still should have notified them officially rather than let it slip out via texts from teammates. There is a right way to do these things, and there's a wrong way. This was wrong. And atypically classless for a usually classy organization.

Assuming it was merely an oversight resulting from the current organizational changes, they are both owed apologies IMO.

Jim Potter
162 Posted 12/06/2016 at 10:28:09
I refuse to believe that the club dumped them like a Phil Collins cast off bride.

Thanks Ossie, Stephen and Hibbo. Good luck.

Matt Muzi
163 Posted 12/06/2016 at 17:47:53
I just can't see Bill Kenwrong not having some sort of chat with the three of them, the way he is with the players.

Howard's comments when he left as well about Hibbert & Ossie, the three old cowboys as he put it, or words to that effect I think it was on the cards then.

That said I am surprised there wasn't some form of announcement at the final game of the season, unless they've taken the time since to consider whether to offer the three of them extensions similar to Gibbo and decided not to.

Best of luck to the three of them, I'd like to see Ossie & Hibbert offered a role at the club if they don't move on to play elsewhere, Pieenar I have no doubt will be off to South Africa.

Mark Ryan
164 Posted 12/06/2016 at 21:45:35
This story is precisely that. It is a story made up by the press. They are making stuff up because we are playing hard ball with them. It's a load of crap and we are swallowing it. Don't believe everything you hear
Stephen Ashton
165 Posted 12/06/2016 at 21:47:12
I have just been reading our released list and wondered who on that list will be playing in the next Euros, given that Dier on Saturday for England and Mustafi tonight for Germany have both scored for their respective teams.

Both play in positions where we desperately need cover and both were released by that great spotter of young talent – David Moyes.

Brian Williams
166 Posted 12/06/2016 at 21:56:33
Lots on here, very naively in my opinion, are taking what the media are saying as "Gospel." I can't see it happening myself, don't believe a word of it.
James Flynn
167 Posted 12/06/2016 at 22:51:35
Jamie - HA!

Hadn't thought of him as a soccer player.

Yes, I could see him shaming them. Always a gent, though.

He'd have helped them back to their feet by sticking two fingers up their nostrils and lifting.

Phil Roberts
168 Posted 13/06/2016 at 00:02:16
Dier was not released by Moyes. He was here on loan from Portugal and at the end of the loan went back. Then 2 years later he was bought by Spurs.

But why let the facts get in the way of a Moyes dig?

And Mustafi was a defender. I don't mind defenders scoring but far prefer to hear about their defending. Why is when Lawrenson is on the BBC to they tell us he scored x goals rather than made y tackles, kept z clean sheets, cleared so many off the line? So why get all excited about Mustafi scoring? Did they concede? No. That is what he is supposed to do.

Mike Allison
169 Posted 14/06/2016 at 22:33:46
Stephen, Moyes signed them, so he obviously did spot young talent.

Phil explains the Dier situation above and Mustafi wouldn't be the first player to make significant improvements only after failing somewhere first.

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