Everton reject Barnsley bid for Joe Williams

I do not think he will be ready for the Premier League any time soon, so why not sell with such a clause, and also negotiate something to ensure we can block any sales, in case someone else tries to buy him if he suddenly becomes as good as Xavi.

Chelsea sell a load of players for under £5m and rake in a lot of transfer revenue despite singing a load of players of 18 or so from abroad.

While I think we have probably got one of the best Academies in the country, being realistic, we can't keep them all.

As can be said for late developers, unless using a Crystal Ball; it is nigh on impossible to predict how every young player will either mature, and improve, or stagnate in his career.

The Insurance, possibly is surely to include these clauses in a sale.

Given what we've paid for youngsters over the last year or two, £7M seems very little even allowing for monies raised by transfers, not least the one just returned on a free.

From what I have seen of him he is a holding midfielder who breaks play up and retains possession well.

We already have a few similar senior players who are struggling to do that in the 1st team.

We don't need to sell him. I would be inclined to offer another season loan to them and judge him on progress then.

Yes, we have competition in that position but, had he not been on loan, I suspect he would have got the selections that Beni Baningime has recently had and may have performed even better - who knows?

If we can transfer out (or even give away!) Schneiderlin and Besic, probably sell Walsh and loan out Baningime, we'll need Williams to work with Dowell in the first team squad. I think we ought to stick on this one.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lsCxfdGRBo0

Joe Williams may or not may not ever be Prem quality but he is a fighter, no doubt. Perhaps it would be better for him to develop away from these shithouses we call players but as others point out, at the very least sell with options - money or buy back. A million is an insult.

He could become the player we all saw when he joined the u18 squad, I certainly hope so. But I think he's behind Dowell, Williams, Baningime and Connolly now.

Liam has come back to Goodison to train and play for the U23's, he may possibly be able to play for the Blues from yesterday as his loan with Birmingham might be over.

I'm hoping if he has come back permanently he will start picking his form up and be noticed by Sam, he is always moving, good ball control, passing is consistently good, takes good free kicks and corners, always involved and looking for the ball, never shirks a tackle, Schniederlin would get tired just watching him.

For those talking about money and players going to Barnsely, don't forget that Barnsley received ٤.78 million from the sell-on fee they negotiated with Everton, and got that figure with Stones's transfer to Manchester City.

That's a shame since we kept Williams and just sold Walsh.

Thats a shame since we kept Williams and just sold Walsh.,,BlueKfrog,1,09:14:29,,110.23.11.243,ok,18950,01/08/2018 09:14:29,EFC_Fan,reader,, 888422,36062,toffeeweb,08/01/2018,Sam Hoare,sam_hoare@hotmail.com,"Rob (#58), the answer to your first question is yes, to a degree. These days even flair players have to do some of the basics too within the requirements of the team.

Eriksen is one of my favourites and works hard for his team. He makes more tackles, more interceptions and more clearances than Dowell per game. He also has a higher pass completion rate. And wins more headers. That's why he is a top player.

Dowell has great talent and i'm a big fan believe me. I really think he has a shot at making it as a regular our first team and hopes he gets a shot but he will need more than just an epic highlights reel. He's still very young and there's no reason he cannot develop his all round game. Many of those things can be taught, unlike his God given left peg.

Did a good job defensively too in a struggling side, kept the highly-rated opposition #10 quiet, wasn't afraid to put his foot in, didn't back down in repeated clashes with the (considerably larger) opposition #9.

I was quietly impressed, but hope he stays there for a full season to get games although that sending off at the weekend had the mark of a frustrated player. Happy if we give him more time – the club seem a bit quick to ship lads out at the minute...