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Conor Grant caught in aborted loan fiasco
Under-23s midfielder Conor Grant has seen a proposed loan move to Plymouth Argyle fall through due to an oversight by Everton.
Grant was due to make the temporary switch to the southwest last week, with Argyle manager Derek Adams expecting him to be available for their match against Oldham.
It was discovered that Grant is ineligible to play for Plymouth, having already turned out of Crewe Alexandra, where he was on loan earlier this season, and Everton's U23s side.
FIFA rules prohibit players from representing more than two clubs per season and, after making 18 appearances for Crewe and playing a solitary game for the Blues in the Checkatrade Trophy in August against Notts County (despite being an U23s fixture, it counted under FIFA rules as a first-team match because of the Football League opposition), Grant cannot join a third team.
Adams admitted Plymouth's role in the mix-up but was critical of Everton's mistake which deprived him of a player he was hoping to sign.
“It was an oversight and the football management team have got to take full responsibility," Adams said. “Ourselves and Everton. They obviously knew he had played in the Checkatrade Trophy and had been out on loan.
“We knew the rules, but we didn't know he had played that one game in the Checkatrade Trophy.”
Grant, 22, is out of contract at Everton in the summer.
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2 Posted 28/01/2018 at 18:01:04
3 Posted 28/01/2018 at 19:01:31
https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/everton-criticised-role-bizarre-transfer-14212597
4 Posted 28/01/2018 at 19:07:36
5 Posted 28/01/2018 at 19:13:32
6 Posted 28/01/2018 at 19:20:19
Absolutely bizarre to consider representing the U23s in a tin-pot trophy counts as an appearance for 'the first team' but surely the club should have been aware of the rules.
7 Posted 28/01/2018 at 19:20:58
8 Posted 28/01/2018 at 19:29:42
As I recall, there was a big stink kicked up by the Football League sides in the first year of this competition last season. I need to root around and find some links, as I can't remember the details.
In a way it's a pity because it goes to the heart of the efforts to make the old 'reserves' football – now called "Development" football – more competitive for the up-and-coming mostly English young players on the books of clubs like Everton. This was meant to pit them against real first-team professionals in a full-blown first-team competition – think Barcelona B team.
Obviously up for debate as to how successful that is, especially with so many of our U23s going out on loan anyway... to supposedly play in lower-league first teams.
9 Posted 28/01/2018 at 19:33:18
10 Posted 28/01/2018 at 19:42:12
Sites such as Soccerbase and Transfermarkt both count up these appearances, and when our players are on the field, it's the only time I believe that they wear their full squad numbers, as we list on our Squad page.
11 Posted 28/01/2018 at 19:44:41
Seems farcical; are Notts County now claiming the Everton scalp?
I hope he didn't also appear in the Liverpool Senior Cup or FIFA will come down on us like a ton of bricks.
12 Posted 28/01/2018 at 19:57:59
However, given that Gosling was allowed to exploit a contract loophole some years ago and now this happens, one must wonder if, whoever is responsible for these matters at EFC, is truly up to the job?
Surely, someone knows and understands these rules, if not, I am sure the members of this board will be more than happy to develop a flow chart for them.
13 Posted 28/01/2018 at 19:58:50
14 Posted 28/01/2018 at 20:00:42
15 Posted 28/01/2018 at 20:14:10
16 Posted 28/01/2018 at 20:21:25
17 Posted 28/01/2018 at 20:31:49
However, and I have seen it in companies I have worked in, people have to justify their position/job and salaries by changing things that do not need changing.
18 Posted 28/01/2018 at 20:35:00
19 Posted 28/01/2018 at 21:07:38
22 Posted 28/01/2018 at 22:16:38
Kenwright, Elstone, Woods out!
When do we want it?
Fuckin' right now.
23 Posted 28/01/2018 at 22:20:51
24 Posted 28/01/2018 at 22:50:10
25 Posted 28/01/2018 at 22:54:56
26 Posted 28/01/2018 at 23:29:41
29 Posted 29/01/2018 at 00:12:28
30 Posted 29/01/2018 at 00:30:01
We pay too much for players because we have no idea how to negotiate. The players we do end up buying have been, by and large a disaster, especially given the fees involved.
Any other board would have sacked Walsh for gross incompetence but not us. No, we even asked Walsh who he would recommend as Manager. I wouldn't have asked him to recruit a cleaner for Finch Farms toilets as he'd fuck that up as well.
Then there's the Stadium Saga. As any self respecting Norwegian RS fan would tell you Sagas are long drawn out stories with an ending. This saga has never had an ending. Arsenal have a new stadium; Spurs are getting one built as we speak; United have added extra capacity and so have the RS. Sunderland ffs have a new stadium!
We don't have a brick laid yet and how long have EFC said they wanted a new stadium? Too bloody long without getting one built. I remember voting eons ago for a new stadium. I'm not going to hold my breath on it being built in the near future as I can't hold my breath that long.
Then there's marketing it's a joke. Recruitment of a manager, again a joke. I imagined Unsworth's missus saying to him, after every game "Are you doing it again next week, David?" and him replying, "How the fuck would I know?"
EFC Everton Forever Crap (at everything).
I appeal to all season ticket holders don't renew your tickets until something is done to rid us of the ineptitude ruining the club we all love.
34 Posted 29/01/2018 at 04:26:10
35 Posted 29/01/2018 at 04:49:59
36 Posted 29/01/2018 at 06:35:59
37 Posted 29/01/2018 at 07:02:07
39 Posted 29/01/2018 at 09:10:34
Are you not going to renew yours?
41 Posted 29/01/2018 at 09:58:29
Admittedly, there were cock-ups before he arrived, but they seem to have multiplied since his appointment, and when we at last got every Club supporter's wish, the money has been mainly proliferated.
42 Posted 29/01/2018 at 12:08:04
43 Posted 29/01/2018 at 12:45:34
Surely the Plymouth Argyle team must take 50% of the blame, if not more?
It's them who have asked for the player on loan (unless we have put his name out there for loan deals) and haven't done their homework correctly.
44 Posted 29/01/2018 at 13:25:37
46 Posted 29/01/2018 at 13:31:40
47 Posted 29/01/2018 at 13:34:05
Really? Did you not bother to actually read what happened? Plymouth knew he had been on loan, but weren't aware that he had played a match in the Checkatrade Trophy. In what world do you expect another club to know every detail about one of Everton's youngsters? Also, Plymouth said they accept some of the blame, but Everton should be more aware of whether one of their players is eligible before offering him to another club.
Here is how that conversation should have gone if Everton weren't run like a third rate business.
Plymouth: “We'd be interested in taking Connor Grant on loan for the second half of the season after his loan spell is up.â€
Everton : “Sorry, he's not eligible to go to another club for the rest of the season after playing in the Checkatrade Trophy and then being out on loan.â€
Plymouth: “Oh, didn't know he had played in the Checkatrade, that's too bad. Thanks.â€
With any successful organization or person, it's not how you do the big things that is all that matters. It's the little details, how you do the little things. How much attention you pay to every detail is what adds up to being successful at the difficult things. This fiasco isn't irrelevant when analyzing how this club is run.
48 Posted 29/01/2018 at 14:57:12
49 Posted 29/01/2018 at 15:50:13
I would have thought the Club Secretary is the one who should know each and every player's availability.
50 Posted 29/01/2018 at 17:39:47
52 Posted 29/01/2018 at 17:53:44
Next, our Manager will be telling us we don't need a new left-back.
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1 Posted 28/01/2018 at 17:03:39
You really couldn't make this stuff up. What, on earth, does our very highly paid Director of Football actually do?