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Everton eye Reid as cover for Funes Mori

| Sunday, 30 July 2017  64 Comments  [Jump to last]
Everton are weighing up a £9m bid for Winston Reid to bolster the back line following Ramiro Funea Mori's latest injury setback.

The Argentine is out of action for at least the next six months after undergoing a second knee surgery to repair a torn meniscus, leaving Ronald Koeman short in defence.

The Blues were linked with West Ham's Reid last year before they bought Ashley Williams from Swansea.

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Christy Ring
1 Posted 29/07/2017 at 23:29:26
I can't see the Hammers selling Reid... but, for that price, I'd be delighted.
Tanvir Akram
2 Posted 29/07/2017 at 23:32:20
If we bought him... West Ham would go mental! They hate us enough already; good defender.
Christy Ring
3 Posted 29/07/2017 at 23:37:43
Hate Sullivan and Gold, ever since the abuse over McCarthy's tackle on Payet, a great tackle.
Sam Hoare
4 Posted 29/07/2017 at 23:55:13
No chance they'll give us one of their first choice centre-backs for that amount if at all. Imagine it would be at least double. Useful player.
Gavin Johnson
5 Posted 30/07/2017 at 00:08:04
Never mind cover. Winston Reid would be an upgrade on Funes Mori, and, for that reason, I can't see this being more than a story. West Ham won't sell him for £9m... No chance!
Frank Payne
6 Posted 30/07/2017 at 00:21:22
Solid centre-back. But I agree, I think that Everton will need more money to pry him away. This summer seem to be a seller's market, anyway.
Jack Convery
7 Posted 30/07/2017 at 00:23:13
Better rumour than bloody Collins and a much better defender too. I would be happy with his signing. I wonder how long he's got on his contract.
Drew O'Neall
8 Posted 30/07/2017 at 00:37:01
I've always thought Collins to be an excellent defender.
Fran Mitchell
9 Posted 30/07/2017 at 01:09:09
What about Sakho from the darkside?

The lad is a beast, is young, and has great potential. Fallen out there, but alongside Keane we'd have two big and classy centre-halves that no striker would look forward to playing .

Offer £20 million and we may get a £50 Million player.

Danny Broderick
10 Posted 30/07/2017 at 01:31:45
I agree, Fran. There aren't too many left-sided centre-halves out there. Sakho ticks a lot of boxes...
Mike Gaynes
11 Posted 30/07/2017 at 01:38:37
Hauling out my old rusty drum again to beat the same message.

Steve Cook from Bournemouth.

David Munro
12 Posted 30/07/2017 at 02:11:41
As a fellow Kiw, let me just say that, if this is true, it will be the greatest day of my life. Come on lads, get this one done!
John Pierce
13 Posted 30/07/2017 at 02:33:12
He is very decent, and I'd go as far as to say better than what we have currently in the shape of Williams as a defender, however the lad from Wales edges it on organization, that was clear from last season.

I'd take him and at that price, excellent depth signing who I think would push for first XI action.

Piss the Hammers fans off too, I'd pay them an extra £5m on top to make that happen.

Ajay Gopal
14 Posted 30/07/2017 at 04:39:49
Good call, Fran (#8), I was about to suggest that myself. The only concern I would have with Sakho would be the investigation (later dropped) into alleged usage of banned drugs.

I agree, he and Keane would be a deadly combination – and he should be available for about £20 million.

Nigel Gregson
15 Posted 30/07/2017 at 05:08:44
Reid for that much? And as Funes Mori cover? You're having a laugh.

If Reid comes, Funes Mori will be the cover – and Reid won't be cheap.

Si Cooper
16 Posted 30/07/2017 at 05:12:36
My impression of both Sahko and Collins is that they are no-nonsense defenders but not very cultured on the ball. Considering our crowd's tendency to have kittens whenever a defender misplaces a pass or comes under pressure when playing the ball out, I can't see either of them becoming fans favourites.

I haven't seen enough of Reid to decide whether he would be any sort of upgrade on what we have. I think most of the defenders around are much of a muchness and Funes Mori or Williams wouldn't compare too badly to the actuality of some of these names that are being bandied about appearing in an Everton shirt. Funes Mori has the advantage of decent pace at least.

Peter Gorman
17 Posted 30/07/2017 at 05:16:59
Reid is a solid pro and whatever his talents, a fighter. You can't have enough of those in a team.
Derek Knox
18 Posted 30/07/2017 at 05:45:40
Sounds good to me, but as fellow posters have mentioned, is this just a story, or is there any mileage?

Also Sakho , a no nonsense defender, but would the dark side negotiate with us?

Like someone else mentioned about Collins, good defender, but think he is too old to even consider, we should be looking at quality younger players, if we are serious about progressing, not stop-gap, nearing retirement players, though I would put Gareth Barry outside that, he is pure class, and seems to keep going, defying the years, maybe not as quick, but mentally above most.

James Watts
19 Posted 30/07/2017 at 06:16:46
Reid for £9m? Absolutely no chance. Paper nonsense. Would easily fetch £20m+ in today's market. Sakho? Garbage at Liverpool. Decent at Palace. At £30m (that was the price quoted to Palace if I remember correctly)? Nope, not for me. As many have said about Sig for £50m, there is better out there for that price.

Fran (#8): "Offer £20 million and we may get a £50 Million player." Sakho a £50m player? I'll have what ever you're drinking, must be strong stuff!!!!!

However, I fear Williams is one of Koeman's favourites and will play most games regardless, so chances are we will end up with some one like Collins for cover, even though we should be looking for a player that goes straight into the team. And just as important, we need a left back of some kind but hopefully better than the 'cover' we've recently acquired for right back!

Colin Glassar
20 Posted 30/07/2017 at 07:59:50
Derek, they wanted £30m from Palace (rejected), I'm sure they'd add on another £10m if we asked.

Reid would be great but there's not a snowballs they'd sell him for that price.

Derek Knox
21 Posted 30/07/2017 at 08:20:54
Hi Colin, thanks for that info, if we are going to spend silly money, why not get Van Dijk?

I know no-one is 'worth that sort of money', but our net spend is roughly about zero at this moment in time, taking the Lukaku fee, Deulofeu etc, and other outgoings into consideration.

It would not only signal proper intention, but would really upset those across the Park, and I'm all for that, too many years being the underdog, and treated with contempt by the darkside!

Still not sure about the Sigurdsson saga, and we definitely need an out-and-out target man, not to mention left-back/centre cover.

I am pleased with the player's we have brought in, with one exception (Cuco Martina) – it must be like winning the lottery, and the irony being, he hasn't even bought a ticket!

I know It's early days, but it's his game plan and team selection combined that baffle me, and I don't think I am alone on that one.

Daniel Lawrence
22 Posted 30/07/2017 at 08:24:31
£9 millions these days just about pays for Peter Reid!
Bob Parrington
23 Posted 30/07/2017 at 08:54:36
Fran, as they say in the parly, you're suggesting Sakho might cross the floor. Oooo! Wouldn't that be irksome for Hermann the German? :) :)

Reid and Cook have been suggested and each would be a good coach, too!

Ian Bennett
24 Posted 30/07/2017 at 08:57:42
I don't think we would get him, but Khoulibally from Napoli all day long. He's the best left sided defender I've seen in ages. The guy is a man mountain, fast, reads the game well and would excel in the Premier league. I like watching Napoli, and he stands out.

I think we will sign Bruno Martins Indi. He's available, played for Koeman previously and at a pinch could fill in at left back. I didn't see enough of him at Stoke to form an opinion.

Liam Reilly
25 Posted 30/07/2017 at 08:58:11
They'd never sell Sakho to Everton on the cheap. If there was an enquiry then I suspect they may enquire about Ross going in the other direction.

That would be a bitter pill.

Bob Parrington
26 Posted 30/07/2017 at 09:06:56
Derek, it seems the whole football world is goin' "cuckoo" on transfer prices in the same way as the various stock markets and governments around the world are about money in general.

I wonder how many ToffeeWeb subscribers are on £100,000 per year, never mind the multiples of that per week that lots of players are on. The world has gone freakin' crazy.

How do we benchmark transfer fees and wages in this crazy football world? For example, what would Georgie Best or even Gazza fetch in today's market?

Brendan Fox
27 Posted 30/07/2017 at 09:29:37
Ian @ 23 agree with you that Khoulibally would be the best choice option as a left sided centre back but don't see Napoli parting with him for less than £60m+ in the current market.

Martins IndI is also a giod call given he played under Koeman at Feyenord and Koeman has bought in Schneiderlin and Martina recently as former players under him.

Charlie Lloyd
28 Posted 30/07/2017 at 09:49:55

I saw enough of him at RS to say I'd never want to see him in an Everton shirt. Bambi on Ice for me.

Ried for £9m. Unless it's a release clause, the fee would be much more.

Collins. Solid but another defender the wrong side of 30 and quite uninspiring.

Steve Jones
29 Posted 30/07/2017 at 09:51:30
Martins Indi looks like a main battle tank and turns like a calor gas tank. For a big lad, he has no ability in the air. No thanks.
Tim Kells
30 Posted 30/07/2017 at 10:12:03
I can't see the Hammers selling Reid, certainly not for £9m. He's on a long-term contract and in a transfer market where an average player is going for £20m+. Seems we are being linked with anyone.
Fran Mitchell
31 Posted 30/07/2017 at 10:15:59
Liverpool want rid of Sakho, they quoted Palace £30, but they have now moved on.

I'd say Sakho has the potential to be at the same level as van Dyke if given a good run and coached correctly. He suffered at Liverpool due to, firstly being coached by Rodgers who cant organize a defense to save his life (á la Martinez) and then with the drug allegation, which strained his relationship with Klopp.

Yet, It appears they have few potential buyers. Maybe worth investigating closer to the close of the window, but a bid of £20M, maybe £25M, could well tempt them to sell. And at that price, in this market, He'd be worth It.

Sakho, Keane with Gueye in front of them that would be a difficult team for even the best of attacks.

David K Shaw
32 Posted 30/07/2017 at 10:21:45
According to a West Ham fan site, his new contract had a £15 million release clause... but he's also recovering from injury.
Chris James
33 Posted 30/07/2017 at 10:24:25
Not so sure about Sakho; if he's so good, why are Liverpool getting rid when they need a central defender (and are apparently chasing Van Dijk)? I know they want to collect the full set of Southampton players, but seems a bit odd to me.
Paul Ellam
34 Posted 30/07/2017 at 11:29:18
Surely there has to be some excellent German defender we can pick up on the cheap?!
Drew O'Neall
35 Posted 30/07/2017 at 11:47:25
By the way, 'cover for Funes Mori'?

Do you need cover for the bench?

Denis Richardson
36 Posted 30/07/2017 at 12:33:58
Rumours are he has a £15m buy-out clause in his current deal and West Ham want to give him a new deal with an increased clause.

Presume if we bid £15m, we would be able to get him.

Jack Convery
37 Posted 30/07/2017 at 12:39:24
Sakho makes Lukaku's ball control look like Messi. Not for me. Reid is very good and would be a positive addition.

In my opinion if Koemans unsure about Kenny at right back, then we need cover, Having seen Cuco on Thursday we defo need cover.

For left back we should have gone for Van Anholt who went to Palace in January.

Van Dijk, Vardy and Sigurdsson, please, please, please.

Peter Gorman
38 Posted 30/07/2017 at 12:50:10
Paul Ellam, we just missed one in Matthias Ginter who left Dortmund this summer for a mere €17 million .

How did Martins Indi do at Stoke? I wasn't following. I vaguely recall Timmy Cahill knocking him out once.

Rob Dolby
39 Posted 30/07/2017 at 13:27:33
If we want cover for Funes Mori then we have Pennington, Holgate, Browning and Galloway. We have Keane, Williams and Jagielka. We don't need Winston Reid – he wouldn't improve us one bit.

Let's buy a couple of forwards we need to fill the hole left by Lukaku.

Sam Hoare
40 Posted 30/07/2017 at 13:36:11
Peter@37. Yes! Ginter looks a good young player who's already played a lot for Dortmund and Germany. A relative bargain at that price.

The transfer market seems so distorted this Summer with some players going for ludicrous amounts whilst some players seem underpriced.

Derek Knox
41 Posted 30/07/2017 at 13:45:23
Sam @ 39, believe also he's a dab hand with Cornish Pasties... come on – you must have heard of Ginter's Cornish Pasties! :-) :-)
Neil Thomas
42 Posted 30/07/2017 at 14:02:20
Let's be realistic – Van Dijk is not an option, got his heart set on RS. Kouibaly is not an option, yeah we're a club on the up but not there yet so pretty sure if he moved it would be a Champions League club. Winston and Collins no, to me a step backwards.

Gibson or Mee would be great business, realistic,young, and premiership experience. Shame we never had a crack at Kolorov, solid,experienced and versatile.

I understand we've got money and ambition but right now we still have to be realistic but big names want Champions League football which this season we can't offer; hopefully next season will be a different matter.

Trevor Lynes
43 Posted 30/07/2017 at 15:32:00
Collins is too old and Jags is miles better!
James Stewart
44 Posted 30/07/2017 at 15:59:52
Reid would be an upgrade on Williams, never mind Funes Mori: they won't sell him though.

I'm glad people are talking about Sahko, he was exceptional at Palace and is the Dark Side's best defender, if you ask me. I would love us to pinch him.

John Hughes
45 Posted 30/07/2017 at 16:10:52
Derek at (#40) – I'll get you coat!
Jay Harris
46 Posted 30/07/2017 at 16:50:45
I think we should concentrate all our funds on adding more quality up front unless Connolly is going to Swansea as pert of the Sigurdsson deal in which case we may need left sided defensive cover.

I do rate Sahko very highly but he cant cover lefy-back and cant see the RS doing business with us.

We will at some stage need a replacement for Williams too as he is getting up in years so if we do need defensive cover I would prefer younger and quality as opposed to old and experienced.

Derek Knox
47 Posted 30/07/2017 at 16:58:52
John, I think I may need it, it's pissing down here!

My pastie has gone from a Tiddly Oggy, to a Taddy Soggy!

You've got to inject a bit of humour, every now and then; otherwise, ToffeeWeb, would be Suicide Watch. No harm ever meant, just, either, hypercritical or try for a laugh.

Okay, I failed on this occasion but, like Zoro and Arnie, "I will be back".

Derek Knox
48 Posted 30/07/2017 at 17:19:05
Forgot to mention, Jay @ 44, I am still baffled by this one to be honest: are we quibbling over £5M and trading one of our better prospects for the future when allegedly we have already offered £45M, and yet they give Cuco Martina, a three-year contract, which must be somewhere in the region of approaching £5M in wages. I am the only one who thinks this way?

That is the equivalent of winning the lottery but the crazy thing is, he never even bought a ticket!

You may have gathered, I am fuming over him; he's not even a journeyman footballer. Look at the Saints Website and clock what the fans say. Let's face it, they know a lot more than we do!

"One flew into the Everton nest"!

Bernard Dooley
49 Posted 30/07/2017 at 17:19:21
Reid at the right price would be a decent signing.

Interesting that last season we were very keen to sign the lad Kone from Sunderland but their (and our) ex-manager dug his heels in. Now he will ply his trade in the Championship and we appear to have lost all interest. Maybe the name Kone brings us all out in a rash.

Again last season we were strongly linked with Lucas Perez until Arsenal stepped in and he dissed us. Now he is unhappy and wants to go back to Spain. Assume our interest is over, given the Sandro Ramirez signing.

Terry White
50 Posted 30/07/2017 at 17:36:46
Rob (#38), not sure how much cover we have from the names you mention:

Pennington is on loan at Leeds. Browning and Galloway are both on loan at Sunderland. Which leaves Holgate and Jagielka for central defensive cover beyond Keane and Williams.

Derek Knox
51 Posted 30/07/2017 at 17:58:35
Bernard, this is what worries me about Koeman: he was allegedly, willing to pay, £17M for his signature... roll on, as you say, and his fee has dropped to some where around the £6-7M mark, from what I can gather, he is a man mountain, who can be very effective, but, and there's nearly always one of those, his turning circle and speed, are equivalent to one of Fred Dibnah's Steam Engines.

Plus, because of the above mentioned, he tends to give a lot of fouls away, in dangerous areas, I am not having a go at Kone here but rather had the board sanctioned it at the time we would have been, sort of stuck and maybe, just maybe, we wouldn't have got Michael Keane who I think is a diamond.

I suppose, the point I am trying to address is whether Koeman has got the initiative and know how to be solely in charge of the transfer targets? Which, is where I thought Steve Walsh was brought in for his expertise.

Rob Dolby
52 Posted 30/07/2017 at 19:07:24
Usually loanees can be recalled. I just don't see the point in bringing someone in who isn't any better than the three senior centre-halves that we have available. (Apologies for my 'Holdgate' blunder but I am sure you know who I meant.)
Terry White
53 Posted 30/07/2017 at 19:17:12
Season-long loans, Rob, which usually means that they cannot be recalled except in "emergency" such as injury-crisis rather than when we just feel like it. Your "Holdgate" caused me amusement. It does amaze me that our contributors can correctly spell Stekelenburg (okay, Stek), Schneiderlin or Klaassen but are unable to get right "regulars" such as Roubles (I like that the best), Davis and Barclay.
Mike Gaynes
54 Posted 31/07/2017 at 06:16:58
Agreed, Terry... he's been with Everton since just after birth but some of our folks STILL think he spells his name Barclay. Drives me nuts.
Andrew Ellams
55 Posted 31/07/2017 at 08:44:54
Terry White, I suspect that spelling was the real reason so many people were happy to see Deelofufu leave.
Ray Robinson
56 Posted 31/07/2017 at 09:19:58
Rob (#52) and Terry (#53). Loanees can now only be recalled in transfer windows, not on a whim or in an emergency (goalies might be an exception). So, I suspect a season-long loan probably means exactly that.

I'd wonder why we are supposedly looking to sign Reid when we could have just kept Galloway and / or Browning but they might not have got any serious match practice, so in a perverse sort of way, it sort of makes sense – albeit it's a costly solution.

Peter Mills
57 Posted 31/07/2017 at 09:54:53
Good post from Terry Waite (#53).
Dominic Tonge
58 Posted 31/07/2017 at 10:20:00
No chance we are signing him for nine million pounds. His release fee is more than that, and also, the happy hammers have signed Hernandez, Pab Zab and Captain Dandruff – so their fans think they are going to win the Premier League!

Imagine if the porn baron and Alan Sugar's tea lady came out on Twitter or in her column in that rag and said they were selling Reid.... to Everton..... Absolute scenes!!

As an aside, if we are talking "I wish we could sign X", what about Laporte? Utter class. He's youngish, cultured, and might be available.

Sam Hoare
59 Posted 31/07/2017 at 12:07:24
Jeison Murillo is leaving Inter for a reported £12m. Strong and very fast. He would be good cover and partner for the towering Keane and pretty cheap at that price. I like Chris Smalling as a cheap option too.
Amit Vithlani
60 Posted 31/07/2017 at 12:27:38

I am firmly in the camp that believes Holgate deserves a chance at centre-back. Kenny offers more at right-back and should be given a chance there. Holgate as all the attributes required to be a starter and should be given a crack.

We have Williams, Jagielka and Funes Mori when fit to come in if Holgate does not do the business. Why spend money on Reid? It is not like he has been a model of consistency. Some of his positional play last season was atrocious – the Hammers home drubbing to the Arse comes to mind.

Derek Knox
61 Posted 31/07/2017 at 18:55:21
Amit @ 60.

I couldn't agree more with your comments. I won't even start or carry on with my fury over the Cuco travesty, but those young lads, have just proved themselves on the World stage; okay, it was the Under 20s, but nevertheless they beat all competitors to lift the World Cup.

It must be so disheartening for these lads, to have achieved that and in my book proved themselves against the best only to be not given the chance to integrate into the senior squad; I don't know how these lads are going to gain experience, if not given a chance.

I am not suggesting for one moment that they should be involved in every game but slowly eased in; the rest will come.

I think Kieran Dowell, and Lookman were stand-out performers in the pre-season run-outs; it will be interesting to see how much game time they get in the next six months.

Brian Murray
62 Posted 31/07/2017 at 19:09:47
If he's half as good as his namesake go for it but really what's happened to the new 'think big' Everton? A class left-sided centre-half who can actually pass a ball like Virgil so someone tell Koeman to lay off the Thunderbirds gear and get a proper striker winger and centre half.

Oh and leave the last two manager traits to the past – Subs on too late and worrying about the opposition.

Terry White
63 Posted 31/07/2017 at 20:29:35
Nice one, Peter Molls (#57).
Steve Mink
64 Posted 16/08/2017 at 19:10:34
Would prefer a cheeky bid for Jonny Evans.

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