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Everton consider Vieira as replacement for Allardyce

| Monday, 07 May 2018 58comments  |  Jump to last
One of the Sunday tabloid stories suggested that Patrick Vieira is being lined by Everton to be their next manager.

Metro claim that the former Arsenal midfielder, who is cutting his managerial teeth at MLS club New York City FC, is on the shortlist of candidates to replace Sam Allardyce should he part company with the Blues this summer.

The former French international has a good reputation in the game and is being groomed for management in one of Europe's top five leagues but his minimal coaching experience and lack of ties to Everton make him an unlikely fit for the Goodison Park role.

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Jim Bennings
1 Posted 07/05/2018 at 16:59:25
Yeah right and I'm considering caviar for breakfast every morning starting tomorrow!
Clarence Yurcan
2 Posted 07/05/2018 at 17:04:30
My local Red Bulls just tonked his NYCFC this weekend 4-0, and we seem to own them, but otherwise he has been pretty good since taking over their club. I don't know how big the degree of difficultly entails jumping from managing MLS to the Prem if that might be a bridge too far, but he didn't he also coach Man city's reserves before this, no?
Joe O'Brien
3 Posted 07/05/2018 at 17:05:13
No thanks.
Brian Cleveland
4 Posted 07/05/2018 at 17:11:58
Didn't he also rule himself out of the Arsenal job as he feels he doesn't have the experience yet? He would be unlikely to do that and then come to us...
Derek Knox
5 Posted 07/05/2018 at 17:29:21
Clarence @2, I dare say Bob Bradley had experience of both MLS and National Team, yet he failed miserably at Swansea, and was dispatched before the ink had dried properly on his contract.

While we all want to get rid of Allardyce, I fail to see either this one happening, or it being a good move for the Club.

Next please!

Joe O'Brien
6 Posted 07/05/2018 at 17:30:27
Brian or maybe he would, and that would be even more worrying.. for us. Seeing us as a trial. If it didn't work out, ah well. He'd get another job no bother.
God only knows what state we'd be in at that point.
Miles too risky, no thanks.. again.
Jay Harris
7 Posted 07/05/2018 at 17:37:02
Only if he came with Wenger as DOF but thereagain I would sooner have Arteta/wenger.

My first choice would be Monchi/Emery.

Dont know why the top 6 are always linked with the top managers and we are always linked with the up and coming or up and going as the case usually is.

Paul Tran
8 Posted 07/05/2018 at 17:39:59
If he's still fit, he'd walk into our midfield. Think he'd sort them out as well!
Gavin Johnson
9 Posted 07/05/2018 at 18:31:29
Monchi won't come Jay. He's at Roma now. But yes, Monchi/Emery would be my first choice.

It's a no from me for Vieira. If we have to make a leftfield appointment in someone with no, or little experience I'd prefer Arteta.

Matthew Williams
10 Posted 07/05/2018 at 18:46:18
I saw that yesterday on Footy 365,thought I share it,no chance of it happening though & wouldn't want it neither.

For me a Championship Manager beckons,bring it on I say as the top Coaches simply won't come...fuck 'em I say,we need a young progressive Gaffer who makes our current crop better players with real belief & confidence & won't belittle them in public.

Matthew Williams
11 Posted 07/05/2018 at 18:53:28
Let me be the ONLY Blue that calls it...the next Gaffer should be Alex Neil of Preston N.E.

Being the ONLY Blue that called for Tosun back in September...I'm going for 2 for 2 !.

Darren Hind
12 Posted 07/05/2018 at 19:05:29
The bookies don't close anymore Mathew. New online betting means you can lose your money on daft bets 24/7 . .You'll get massive odds though
Matthew Williams
13 Posted 07/05/2018 at 19:24:21
Lol Darren...a Jock from Preston !?, maybe lightning strikes twice,his side plays good football & with a tiny budget too,12 points better off than last season & just missed out on play-off glory,not too shabby like.

I'm the lone voice,i know he has no chance as Mosh loves his foreigners,so be it, but I will not change my mind as I believe he would be perfect for us as we stand,I can take the mockery,jeez I keep reading Blues talking top four & C.L...just being realistic at this point in our history.

Matthew Williams
14 Posted 07/05/2018 at 19:55:10
If by some miracle I'm proved right Darren then am expecting at least a pint in the Winslow off yer.

I'll be easy to spot, I'll be the bloke at the bar wearing a doppy smile wearing a retro shirt ok. Lol

Good shout on Rodriguez at the Baggies btw.

Paul Tran
15 Posted 07/05/2018 at 20:13:24
Matthew, if you put that bet on, haggle with them on the price. I got someone from Paddy Power to give me evens on us staying up straight after the Southampton away game (was apparently 4/6). When they paid out last month they closed my account.
Darren Hind
16 Posted 07/05/2018 at 20:22:31

I would be delighted to cough up if you were right. I have to admit, I didn't realise it meant taking another Scot from Preston that makes me uneasy, but I would rather hear suggestions from people like you who are thinking outside the box. Nothing wrong with that Mate.

This is speculation time and none of us have a Scooby who will come in. Your two penneth is as good as anyone elses

Si Pulford
17 Posted 07/05/2018 at 21:37:04
Can't understand why Sean Dyche isn't mentioned more often. Infinitely more qualified than Vieira. Look at the job he's done at Burnley vs the job Silva did getting hull relegated and getting sacked by Watford?!!

It makes no sense to me how many blues are clamouring for Silva but see Dyche as old fashioned or ‘a dinosaur'

Imagine him with better players?! He's got chris wood and Ashley Barnes playing like Rivaldo and Ronaldinho.

Bobby Mallon
18 Posted 07/05/2018 at 21:48:36
mancini, pelegrine for been here sen it done it. Moshiri go do it
Jay Harris
19 Posted 07/05/2018 at 22:08:44
If we're talking about championship managers the Wolves guy has done very well, espirito Santi or something but I would go for the Fulham man Jokanović who appears to have really sorted them out and maybe he will bring Sessegnon with him.
Soren Moyer
20 Posted 07/05/2018 at 22:34:05
Tom Bowers
21 Posted 07/05/2018 at 22:49:04
If they consider the MLS a good yardstick for managers then why not ''Inchy''? but in all seriousness they need a man with top league experience from the Premier League, Bundesliga, Serie 'A' or La Liga.

These are the most competitive leagues in Europe and the rest just don't cut it for me except maybe a few clubs in France.

Gaute Lie
22 Posted 07/05/2018 at 22:55:18
Arteta with a project like Everton is something worth trying. He was a wise player at Everton, and with all he learned from Wenger and Guardiola he could be the man.

Lets give him three years. See if he could turn our fortunes.

Id rather have an inexperienced Arteta than SA. Do you hear me, Sammy?

Colin Glassar
23 Posted 07/05/2018 at 22:56:28
Right now I'd take Micky bloody Mouse over fat Sam and his crowd.
Fran Mitchell
24 Posted 07/05/2018 at 23:02:36
Don't agree with the 'man needs to be proven' line. What we need is a man with fresh ideas, and man with ambition, a man determined to make his name.

Look at the german manager, 30 odd years of age but turning up trees at hoffenheim. Or how Mainz hired Klopp and Tuchel when both were unproven. Pochettino was totally unproven, never mind Guardiola and Zidane when they were given their chances. Not to mention Wenger when he was hired. Proven could also mean tired, or inflexible. Proven can also lead to someone not ready to risk their reputation (do the expected job mentality).

It seems Vieira is very highly regarded, so is worth an interview, worth see what he has to say. Same with Arteta.

One thing is for certain, if we are to progress to the level we want, there is no 'proven' manager out there who is capable of that and would come to us.

For me that leaves us to going for a left of field choice that could not work out, or play safe, go for someone who will steadily improve us and keep us 7/6th in the league, hope for a cup win, and maybe get a better manager in a few years.

Colin Glassar
25 Posted 07/05/2018 at 23:06:32
Fran, I agree with you regarding experience. It's overrated imo. But hey ho, knowing Everton, and the fools that run us, we will probably end up with Neil Warnock.
Jim Harrison
26 Posted 08/05/2018 at 00:42:11
What is all this about Arteta?? He has two seasons as Peps understudy? A couple of stories about being highly regarded by so and so, and he used to play for us ( didn't he kiss the arsenal badge after scoring against us?)

Someone even said given the choice Arteta over Viera?? One actually has management experience, the others is a vocal coach.

I wouldn't have either. Why take punts after the season we have just had?

Paul Birmingham
27 Posted 08/05/2018 at 01:06:35
Agreed we need a proven successful manager. Not all great players, make good managers.

For me PV, was a great MF. He's not an Everton manager, 10: years time., who knows, as time, would prove.

Pep G, same vista and similar and attention to detail is what we need, to manage the first team. Else we won't catch my view of EFC.

Bill Watson
28 Posted 08/05/2018 at 01:59:33
Thanks but no thanks to both Viera and Arteta.

Colin Glassar
29 Posted 08/05/2018 at 07:22:58
Silva or Fonseca for me. Young, energetic managers who will have a plan to change the clubs DNA not just survive from month to month.
Sam Hoare
30 Posted 08/05/2018 at 08:30:08
Fran@24, good post. ‘Experience' can be a curse as much as a blessing. I'd take a charismatic new manager who knows the modern game inside out and where it's going rather than an ‘old head' with set ideas and rusty philosophies.

Perhaps a newer take might feel more risky but old heads such as Hughes and Pardew look like contributing to at least 2 if not 3 relegated teams between them...

Of course the analysis on the next manager must be careful and deep and that's certainly easier for someone who has at least managed before (this counts against Arteta for me) but our last manager choice was made in fear; let's make the next one in hope.

Martin Reppion
31 Posted 08/05/2018 at 09:23:31
I love these comments.
Football is about opinions. None of us know who is available and who would come to EFC if they were offerd.
In this age of agents and media nobody applies for a football managerial job anymore. Their people either approach a club on the quiet with a "what if.." or they feed a snippet to the press, "X is intersted in Y" and sit back and wait for a call to see if the piece has legs.
We need a decisive move from the board to enable us to move on.
If there is going to be a change, then the board should know by now who is coming in. There are enough people out there who's contract is up by June 1st (Or haven't got one) and with whom we could have an agreement in place. Alternatively (and I hope not), the board should announce that there will be no change in managerial staff and this lot will be here in September come what may.
I take solace from the deafening silence that must mean there is a change planned. The lack of vocal and uneqivocal support for the current team MUST PLEASE mean that there is to be a change. The delay in announcement can only be because of contractual issues.
Whether we get a proven champions league man, or some young pup from league 2, I am beyond caring. I will be supporting the Blues come what may. Anything has got to be better than the last few years and 3 managers. All I ask is that whoever is in charge, he gets the players on the front foot and gives us something to cheer about.
Ultimately, I'd love these pages to be blank every week because we'd have nothing to moan about. It isn't gonna happen. But I can dream.
Iain Johnston
32 Posted 08/05/2018 at 09:41:26
We need experience with a sprinkling of success, someone who coaches as well as someone who stands on the touchline. The weight of expectancy at a club such as ours is huge on the shoulders of young inexperienced managers never mind perennial yoyo club managers such as Allardyce.

Names like Eddie Howe, Dyche even Chris Houghton who's profiles have risen are fine managing teams whose fans don't expect a minimum of top 7.

Marco Silva has won trophies under the harsh glare of the Greek flare tossing, mob chanting masses managing the country's most popular club, a club which has a huge registered fanbase. Their rivalry with Panathinaikos is as legendary as Merseyside, Manchester or Glasgow . The same can be said of Sporting CP.

He is also a hands on manager and coach.

For me Silva ticks the boxes. He'd understand the passions and rivalries and he'd quickly tune in to what we want which again for me is a competitive football team capable of playing with both flair and pragmatism and to be taken seriously again.

Matthew Williams
33 Posted 08/05/2018 at 10:13:21
Will consider it Paul,if our board dither as usual, ta.

Cheers Darren,like most of us on here,picking a new Boss is proving a bit of a tough call,our next Gaffer could be anyone,I just pray we finally get a Winner in.

God help us all if Mosh gives F.S another season !.

John Hammond
34 Posted 08/05/2018 at 10:33:02
Vieiera?! I haven't laughed this hard since I was a little girl
Tony Everan
35 Posted 08/05/2018 at 10:51:46
It will be a different “manager of the day “all this week .

Paddy Vieira was a lazy journos choice whilst sipping pimms at the in laws bank holiday bbq.

BPB wants Eddie Howe is Tuesday's fayre.

Salim Rehman
36 Posted 08/05/2018 at 13:16:20
I'm With Colin on this one it's got to be Silva or Fosenca, not interested in Vieira, Arteta or Howe. For me what exactly has Howe done that he's so highly rated? if it's Vieira or Arteta it should be number 2 along with Guus Hiddink.
Rob Dolby
37 Posted 08/05/2018 at 13:29:15
Would anyone consider Wayne Rooney as player manager?
He is still a massive name in the game who could attract signings, the lad has a wealth of experience playing under one of the best managers in British football.
Eugene Kearney
38 Posted 08/05/2018 at 13:42:01
Maybe Vieira is a risk too far, maybe he'd do well, maybe he'd see us as a stepping stone.

Maybe we should go for Eddie Howe. he's an Everton supporter, I think, and he has experience at top flight management.

My fingers are crossed we get it right this summer.

Kieran Kinsella
39 Posted 08/05/2018 at 13:47:41
Eddie Howe the Great Evertonian Who says he also supported Watford
Martin Reppion
40 Posted 08/05/2018 at 14:24:16
Kieran #38... Perhaps he just likes the Z Cars walk on music.
Andrew Clare
41 Posted 08/05/2018 at 14:38:23
I just want a manager who believes in playing expansive cultured attacking football.Who is passionate about the game and is a tactical genius. That's all.
Matthew Williams
42 Posted 08/05/2018 at 15:43:36
It seems were in for Justin Kluivert folks...on the HITC.COM site now.

More lies ?.

Dermot Byrne
43 Posted 08/05/2018 at 16:29:31
Matt #41 if like hitc you run every possible story or rumour, eventually you will be right. But Jesus so many are horse crap trawled from soc media blather
Jay Harris
44 Posted 08/05/2018 at 16:35:49
Yeah Rob and then all the players can enjoy a few beers and a prostitute before and after every game. That will motivate them then.
Tony Everan
45 Posted 08/05/2018 at 16:59:26
Mr Moshiri has already offered up to 15m for Silva, so a gentlemans deal may have already been struck now he is a free agent.

Alternatively, he spoke to Fonseca in October too and more recently by the sounds of it so it could be the Fons.

I don't think Moshiri will gamble with Eddie Howe, even though he has worked wonders with Bournemouth. I wouldn't be disappointed with him in charge but I would be worried that it maybe too much for him to handle.

Moshiri may yet surprise us and bring a big time manager in . Simeone, Emery, Jardim, Conte . Is he willing to bankroll such a manager with massive spending. Don't hold your breath.

Any of them would give me hope for the future and the football would improve.

Mike Andrews
46 Posted 08/05/2018 at 17:15:13
Matthew, Dermot that was also on a couple of Roma fan pages on Facebook yesterday. They were pissed off because they wanted him but he is reported to want the premier amid “strong interest “ from us and united. There was another bit of the report that got me wondering. He has apparently just changed agent to Raiola. Am I right in remembering something on here a few weeks ago saying that Brands has close links to Raiola?
Matthew Williams
47 Posted 08/05/2018 at 18:13:05
Just thought I'd mention it Dermot in case some Blues hadn't caught it.

Think your right Mike,jeez those fucking agents are real leeches,I don't know what's worse them or Large Samuel !?.

All the wild rumours will now start pouring in from everywhere...I need a LONG holiday...maybe Turkey...

Matthew Williams
48 Posted 08/05/2018 at 18:23:00
Sadly Andrew,that particular Gentleman you suggest passed in 2015.

But I do believe we need a new man who captures his love for the beautiful game & can also provide a new legacy for our great club.

I know who,but sadly the fan base & more importantly Mosh would never give him his chance here...sigh.

Dave Abrahams
49 Posted 08/05/2018 at 18:31:25
Mathew(48), that was only three years ago, dig him up and put him in the managers office, he will have better plans than Sam.
Mike Andrews
50 Posted 08/05/2018 at 18:44:13
Matthew. What it got me thinking was Brands coming is done. He is delaying saying anything because we are seeing out the season with our current “manager “ ( for the reasons already spoken of above) and, surely, an announcement of Brands' arrival would be a de facto sacking because I can't see him working with the knuckle dragger.
Matthew Williams
51 Posted 08/05/2018 at 18:46:47
Jeez Dave...very subtle,been a few good shouts on here for the next Gaffer,fuck knows who Mosh will pick,but to many fans he'll still get it WRONG.

Me included.

Ray Said
52 Posted 08/05/2018 at 18:52:34
Style of footy produced is the key factor for me-what type of footy do we want and which reflects our identity (something worthy of a separate debate).

My first choice would be Spaletti at Inter. He always tries to produce teams that stroke the ball around, dominate the midfield, get forward using the wings and has a fast mobile striker or two.

Matthew Williams
53 Posted 08/05/2018 at 18:54:02
Could be bang on there Mike,but unless there is real confirmation on the subject us Blues are still dangling,I'm old school me in truth,I just can't see the point of a D.o.F,I like the Gaffer to rule the roost,decide with his Assistants & Scouts what's needed,but if Brands can improve us then I'm sound with it.

We couldn't get any worse...could we !?.

Clive Rogers
54 Posted 08/05/2018 at 19:09:09
Ray, #52, a fast mobile striker. That's Tosun on his way then.
Matthew Williams
55 Posted 08/05/2018 at 19:21:57
No Clive,just play Walcott alongside him for support...2 Strikers up top, whatever next 3D telly ? jeez.

Tosun WILL score us goals Blues.

Ray Said
56 Posted 08/05/2018 at 19:23:15
Clive (54). Yes, he would be gone. Spaletti would probably stick Walcott up front and have his two widemen pulling in from wide to create a trident type attack using movement and pace to unsettle the central defenders and having the full backs attack more. It does not always come off but I have enjoyed watching Inter play all season and they are still challenging for a CL place.

He would do us a good job.

Paul Ellam
57 Posted 08/05/2018 at 19:41:44
Manuel Pellegrini for a few years, including the stadium move, followed by Eddie Howe (with more experience on board)
That would be my blue print.
Mike Andrews
58 Posted 08/05/2018 at 21:56:28
I like Spalletti's passion. However, two spells at Roma didn't create too much. His Russian odyssey was mixed,, and,frankly, Atalanta are as likely as Inter .

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