Everton have confirmed Carlo Ancelotti as the club's new manager following Marco Silva's dismissal from the role on 6th December and the Italian's departure from Napoli.
Ancelotti has signed a four-and-a-half-year contract and becomes the third permanent appointee under Farhad Moshiri's reign at Goodison Park following the high-profile capture of Ronald Koeman in 2016 and the protracted pursuit of Silva that began the following year that led to the Portuguese being hired in May 2018. Controversial coach, Sam Allardyce, was installed on an interim basis after Koeman was sacked less 18 months into the job having achieved Moshiri's goal of avoiding relegation in 2017-18.
Ancelotti, meanwhile, was sacked by Napoli 10 days ago despite leading them to the second place in the Italian top flight last season and securing their passage to the knockout phase of the Champions League this month. It ended a difficult relationship with the Serie A club's chairman, Aurelio De Laurentiis, one that had made a parting of the ways at Stadio San Paolo seem inevitable.
The 60-year-old coach, who was infamously fired by Chelsea in a corridor at Goodison following a league game against Everton in 2011, began talks with Everton's hierarchy last Monday and reports, initially played down by the Blues, that Ancelotti had agreed a deal in principle emerged that evening.
Negotiations continued amid rumours that Everton were prepared to make Ancelotti one of the highest-paid coaches in Europe and reports that he was seeking assurances from Moshiri and his board that there was scope for investment to upgrade the team.
He will officially take charge on Boxing Day when the Toffees face Burnley at home which will left the reins in Duncan Ferguson's hands for the Carabao Cup quarter-final against Leicester City and today's Premier League clash with Arsenal, also at Goodison Park.
Ferguson, meanwhile, will stay on at the club as one of the new man's assistants alongside Ancelotti's son, Davide.
Ancelotti is one of the most decorated managers in the game and, as such, his appointment represents an impressive acquisition for Everton and another statement of intent by Moshiri. The Reggiolo-born manager assumes his 10th managerial role having helmed some of the biggest names in European football, including Juventus, AC Milan, Paris Saint- Germain, Real Madrid and Bayern Munich.
He has won 15 major trophies in his 24-year career, is one of a select few to have won the Champions League three times and has won league titles in four different countries.
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1 Posted 21/12/2019 at 11:30:26
2 Posted 21/12/2019 at 11:36:42
3 Posted 21/12/2019 at 11:39:09
4 Posted 21/12/2019 at 11:41:06
5 Posted 21/12/2019 at 11:43:13
6 Posted 21/12/2019 at 11:45:08
7 Posted 21/12/2019 at 11:45:18
8 Posted 21/12/2019 at 11:48:01
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10 Posted 21/12/2019 at 11:49:52
11 Posted 21/12/2019 at 11:51:01
12 Posted 21/12/2019 at 11:51:05
13 Posted 21/12/2019 at 11:56:55
14 Posted 21/12/2019 at 11:59:30
15 Posted 21/12/2019 at 12:00:04
“Great men are not born great, they grow great. . . ”
16 Posted 21/12/2019 at 12:00:23
Could be a game changer! Hes not come here without promise of big money to spend too!
17 Posted 21/12/2019 at 12:01:12
18 Posted 21/12/2019 at 12:01:33
19 Posted 21/12/2019 at 12:02:10
What a coup. A world class manager in the Goodison dug out. Wow!
And to think we thought Moyes would be coming back just a week or two ago.
Rumours that first signing will be Ibrahimovic!
This club is on the up.
20 Posted 21/12/2019 at 12:02:46
21 Posted 21/12/2019 at 12:03:32
COYB & Well done Big man, you are a true blue legend - FOR REAL 💙 we never doubted you ;-) it was just the absolute $hite you've had to sit next to over the lasy few years but no more & you're time is to come. See you on our touchline again in our state of the art Bramley Moore Dock Stadium in just +3 years time.
22 Posted 21/12/2019 at 12:04:09
23 Posted 21/12/2019 at 12:07:10
24 Posted 21/12/2019 at 12:08:27
Welcome aboard Carlo, let's hope we can kick on from here.
25 Posted 21/12/2019 at 12:09:54
26 Posted 21/12/2019 at 12:10:32
27 Posted 21/12/2019 at 12:14:19
Have Everton appointed him because Liverpool have Klopp ?
28 Posted 21/12/2019 at 12:14:27
29 Posted 21/12/2019 at 12:16:04
30 Posted 21/12/2019 at 12:16:29
31 Posted 21/12/2019 at 12:17:31
32 Posted 21/12/2019 at 12:25:50
He mustve taken some convincing because he's not going to put his reputation on the line if the funds are not there to build a team from.
33 Posted 21/12/2019 at 12:29:34
34 Posted 21/12/2019 at 12:29:39
On the club site, Marcel Brands is quoted as saying:
"Following a rigorous process conducted by all of our Directors, it is a pleasure to now welcome Carlo Ancelotti to Everton. He is one of the finest managers in world football and a proven winner, having achieved a remarkable level of success in each of Europes major leagues.
“He is the perfect appointment for us. He embraces our vision for the Club and we are sure that his enthusiasm to take the helm at Goodison together with his tactical abilities and well-renowned man-management will make him successful in this role.
"This was a clear and exciting decision for the Board to make. It was a unanimous choice and one we were all fully united behind throughout.
"Carlo has proven time and again, he knows how to build a trophy-winning side and we share the excitement of our fans at the prospect of him leading our team in the years ahead. Were all greatly looking forward to working with him."
35 Posted 21/12/2019 at 12:31:11
Enjoy the ride.
36 Posted 21/12/2019 at 12:31:13
I expect big Dunc to be offered quite a few roles as manager in the next few seasons and we would have to say more power to him
He for me has not put a foot wrong has turned the club on its head and has been a breath of fresh air although in a Cameo role and I would argue has laid the foundations for Carlo to walk into
Onwards and Upwards hopefully our club are finally going to have that winning mentality again so that when the likes of Big Nev states that we should start each and every season trying to win the PL else whats the point, He wont be getting funny looks
Saying that for the money I expect European football by end of next season
37 Posted 21/12/2019 at 12:31:42
I also think it's an impressively ambitious choice by Ancelotti himself. If he wanted an easy, lucrative, semi-retirement gig then he could have found that. Instead, he's chosen to take a risk himself, and challenge himself as a manager to really build something with us.
I think that's admirable - one of the best managers in the world wants to be part of our "project".
38 Posted 21/12/2019 at 12:32:06
Well done Moshiri.
39 Posted 21/12/2019 at 12:48:45
40 Posted 21/12/2019 at 12:50:31
41 Posted 21/12/2019 at 13:06:04
42 Posted 21/12/2019 at 13:21:50
43 Posted 21/12/2019 at 13:27:18
But that is not yet to be so it's welcome to Carlo and best of luck.
Nice to see BK giving him some pointers and advice during the game!!!
44 Posted 21/12/2019 at 13:32:38
45 Posted 21/12/2019 at 13:34:06
46 Posted 21/12/2019 at 14:14:31
47 Posted 21/12/2019 at 14:39:28
48 Posted 21/12/2019 at 14:42:53
49 Posted 21/12/2019 at 14:44:01
50 Posted 21/12/2019 at 14:50:51
51 Posted 21/12/2019 at 14:53:45
Me. I'm an old romantic, and Dunc or Mikel would have warmed the cockles of my heart, but Ancelotti is a different league. How long did it take before Man City finally became a big club after the cash injection? It scares me in a way. School of Science and all that. I wonder who's on the way in player-wise?
52 Posted 21/12/2019 at 14:57:09
53 Posted 21/12/2019 at 14:59:41
54 Posted 21/12/2019 at 15:30:15
55 Posted 21/12/2019 at 15:33:37
So average today all over the park. We need our injured midfielders back, our confidence back and a goal scorer. But well done Moshiri.
56 Posted 21/12/2019 at 15:38:57
57 Posted 21/12/2019 at 15:47:31
58 Posted 21/12/2019 at 15:55:16
We're left hoping yet again, for a genuine goalscorer in the January transfer window, I can't remember one decent effort on the Arsenal goal in the whole match, it was totally devoid of any entertainment. Thank goodness we got a point, all credit to Duncan for steadying the ship after Silva's nightmare start to the season.
59 Posted 21/12/2019 at 16:05:41
Good luck Carl Ancellotti, and please can you get us our Everton back!
60 Posted 21/12/2019 at 16:07:38
CARLO, BENVENUTO IN EVERTON FC
61 Posted 21/12/2019 at 16:18:48
62 Posted 21/12/2019 at 16:43:42
63 Posted 21/12/2019 at 17:20:10
I think Ancelotti when approached, made some ridiculous demands which he didn't think realistic or acceptable, yet somehow they did. Time will tell, but I don't think he is the right fit and will leave the club inside of 2 years in worse shape than it's in.
64 Posted 21/12/2019 at 17:27:21
You may be right but Ancelotti held the cards in the situation. Everton are not close to the level he has been used to. They've wooed him hoping he can get us there. It would have been a hard sell if we said "we really want you but you only get 2 years because realistically you'll probably quit or be sacked or quit by then." Every contract is too long and too lucrative but that's the nature of the beast in football these days.
65 Posted 21/12/2019 at 17:31:01
I saw an article on ESPN last week saying Everton fans were "ungrateful" and "Moyes is the best they can hope for." You can't win really. When we got Silva people said he was unproven, risky, no track record. When we got Sam they said he was desperation. When we got Howard III they said it was a lazy choice going back to square one. Now Carlo is too good of a manager to manage a bad team.
66 Posted 21/12/2019 at 17:31:32
67 Posted 21/12/2019 at 17:33:52
Don't give up. You could be the Eddie The Eagle of ToffeeWeb
68 Posted 21/12/2019 at 17:34:44
Its a money driven bun fight. The contract is commercial cover for Carlos payout if it goes tits up.
The appointment isnt some gradual, tangible improvement bullshit. Id expect its clear he has funds and cart Blanche to change the squad. The FA cup will be taken seriously and the league position should be focused on European qualification.
Brands will be a busy lad.
Its the appointment that Moshiri should have made first up. He now has two incredibly successful people at the top end of the football operation. There are zero excuses.
Watching the footage from the stands that was the most talkative Ive ever seen Farhad. Time to make it happen folks.
This genuinely could be shit or bust for Everton if this doubling down on this monster gambit doesnt work I think we are fooked.
69 Posted 21/12/2019 at 17:41:58
Carlo "You need better stewards, those fans standing around on the pitch getting in the way of the play."
Mosh "That's Gylfi Sigurdsson and Cenk Tosun. They play for us."
Carlo "Pull the other one, let me guess Brands is going to sign Dele Alli's "brother" in Janaury too."
70 Posted 21/12/2019 at 17:59:15
If you don't have time to read it all, the summary related to Ancelotti:
Carlo Ancelotti has squandered resources. Although he has led the team with the best players in its league in eight of his past 12 seasons, he has won only three titles in that time. A top-league player who fared so poorly would have lost his job. But the market for coaches is inefficient. Mr Ancelotti keeps getting hired—perhaps because employers over-weight his three Champions League trophies, which required a much smaller number of wins.
71 Posted 21/12/2019 at 18:06:40
72 Posted 21/12/2019 at 18:07:36
This is a massive statement of intent from Moshiri and he should be praised for it.
He now needs to back the manager in January and start bringing quality in.
73 Posted 21/12/2019 at 18:08:38
We were linked with Mark Hughes and David Moyes last week!
We simply have to support this 100%.
74 Posted 21/12/2019 at 18:22:48
The fundamental flaw with that article is that cost is the sole criteria of judging whether a player is good or bad. Ancelotti has only managed the "big clubs" and PSG, Madrid, Juventus etc pay a premium because they are "big clubs." Case in point, Thomas Graveson. At Everton he was a 2.5 million pound no name player in a mediocre club. Suddenly he's at Real Madrid earning a mint. Based on his earnings, Madrid Graveson is better than Everton Graveson. Likewise Aaron Ramsey on 400,000 a week at Juve is better than Ramsey at Arsenal on 80,000 a week. Even if Graveson and Ramsey perform to the exact same level at both clubs, the club paying them more is "wasting money" by this analysis.
The other thing to take into account is that Ancelotti is a manager and not a director of football. He doesn't make all the decisions about transfers. Indeed, at real Madrid it's often the club president who signs players not the coach. So you can't really hold Ancelotti accountable for the fact Perez decides to spend a hundred million on a player who is famous enough to be classed a "Galatico."
75 Posted 21/12/2019 at 18:50:32
76 Posted 21/12/2019 at 19:44:55
77 Posted 21/12/2019 at 19:58:41
78 Posted 21/12/2019 at 20:03:54
79 Posted 21/12/2019 at 20:04:20
80 Posted 21/12/2019 at 20:13:02
81 Posted 21/12/2019 at 20:16:00
82 Posted 21/12/2019 at 20:18:21
If Carlo cannot get Everton going in the right direction and up where we belong no one can. Good luck, Carlo, I for one am glad you are here.
83 Posted 21/12/2019 at 20:22:01
84 Posted 21/12/2019 at 20:26:20
Scratched record time for me on this site, however.
Ferguson, Wenger, Mourino, Pelligrini, Mancini, Ancelotti, Klopp
Never successful in the Premier League.. until their first appointment in the Premier League.
This is actually Anceloti's second appearance for those for what that matters. He's no Sam Allardyce, I'll agree, but his CV reads well to me.
85 Posted 21/12/2019 at 21:11:05
86 Posted 21/12/2019 at 21:56:52
I'm delighted and those questioning his appointment please never buy a lottery ticket. Today is hopefully the start of a positive journey.
A well done to Duncan. Got the players battling for the jersey. Brought pride to a difficult situation.. Now learn from the master about man management of players. Yes subbing the sub may work with average and young players but experienced talented players will not tolerate it.
87 Posted 21/12/2019 at 21:59:11
88 Posted 21/12/2019 at 22:03:09
For me, this was the wrong choice of manager. I'd have gone for a Chris Wilder type manager on the way up rather than a 60-year-old looking for maybe one last big pay-day.
Ancelotti has been successful at big clubs. Sadly, Everton haven't been a big club for over 30 years.
89 Posted 21/12/2019 at 22:09:06
90 Posted 21/12/2019 at 22:29:06
91 Posted 21/12/2019 at 22:30:11
92 Posted 21/12/2019 at 22:32:22
I think Carlo Ancelotti is a good appointment. His past record speaks for itself. He certainly raises the profile of the club which is important these days. How long he stays is a 'who knows' but it would be great if, in the meantime, he brings some respect back to the club.
He may also feel he has something to prove to the Premier League, having been sacked by Chelsea having won the Double. Let's hope, in the season and a half you think he'll stay with us for, he delivers the double for us. :)
93 Posted 21/12/2019 at 22:37:08
94 Posted 21/12/2019 at 22:39:52
95 Posted 21/12/2019 at 22:40:31
Chris Wilder is not some one season wonder. He has been promoted twice at Sheffield United and also at Oxford and Northampton. Management is about making the best of the resources available and he has done an amazing job. Everton would have done well to attract him.
Chelsea and Man City have both been taken over by some of the richest people in the world. Moshiri isnt in that league financially. His first years at Everton dont bode well.
96 Posted 21/12/2019 at 22:50:59
However, my main concern is the preservation of our Premier League status – lose that and Ancelotti will be off in a flash and I think, will be promptly followed by Moshiri. I dread to think what would happen then.
I can't understand why Duncan wasn't allowed longer at the helm just to get the vital points to ensure safety which I think he was perfectly capable of achieving.
97 Posted 21/12/2019 at 22:51:01
98 Posted 21/12/2019 at 22:53:42
99 Posted 21/12/2019 at 23:00:37
100 Posted 21/12/2019 at 23:12:07
From Sam Allardyce to this in 585 days. God! This club is indestructible.
101 Posted 21/12/2019 at 23:19:19
Relagation is a possibility with whoever we get as manager but we have stability now. The owner has got the best available and credit to him. The hard work starts now. I wish Mr Ancelotti every success.
102 Posted 21/12/2019 at 23:37:53
103 Posted 22/12/2019 at 00:07:27
104 Posted 22/12/2019 at 00:08:47
Next season, we should see a great improvement on the playing staff, a Europa League run (semi-final would do), a cup, and a top 4 standing (I'll acept 3 out of the 4).
And the following season... You know it! I know it! And Carlo knows it... It has to be...
105 Posted 22/12/2019 at 00:14:42
106 Posted 22/12/2019 at 00:20:52
Just for once, it would be a good thing if the board took the rose-tinted glasses off and actually put in place a plan with a proper succession plan that takes us from bottom half of the table to consistently challenging for 5th/6th place and then on to 4th or higher, instead of selecting fantasy footbll managers.
107 Posted 22/12/2019 at 00:23:09
108 Posted 22/12/2019 at 01:32:49
109 Posted 22/12/2019 at 01:38:26
110 Posted 22/12/2019 at 01:44:21
If we have the ambition to convince Carlo to get on board we have to break the bank again and get a lethal frontman. Don Carlo and a massive cheque must attract this player or it's going to remain one long slog till the summer.
111 Posted 22/12/2019 at 01:44:35
112 Posted 22/12/2019 at 02:03:29
113 Posted 22/12/2019 at 05:30:09
"How the Fuck Are We Affording This?"
Usmanov has to be behind this. Either that or we're pullin' a Leeds U.
Don't get me wrong, I'm thrilled with this, and still can't believe we've signed Carlo Ancelotti. It's other-worldly! Pinch me. Actually don't, but you get my drift.
But.. . . who is paying for Carlo himself, our still slightly bloated roster, and the incomings Carlo will surely want?? We don't have Monopoly money!
Fuck it, let's win some trophies while we financially rape and pillage!
114 Posted 22/12/2019 at 05:30:31
115 Posted 22/12/2019 at 07:12:55
What does Usmanov get out of this without getting on the Board of Directors, you may ask? Well, he gets to build (supply) a large part of Bramley-Moore Dock and then probably gets naming rights – USM – for the new stadium.
When Paul Merson said, “Oh, that's not good” when Moshiri's takeover was announced on Sky, he wasn't talking about the bookkeeper but the money man.
116 Posted 22/12/2019 at 07:47:38
For many of us life-long Blues who have seen major success, this is a game changer as it might enable us to climb back to the level that we believe we belong rightfully. I am delighted you are amazed and, like Colin, believe that Usmanov has agreed to underwrite our expansion.
I've heard from so many ex-red shite pundits and ex-players from clubs like Arsenal and Man Utd that Ancelotti won't be a fit for what Everton need – that is because they are rattled. Same for their fan club on the media and press. Carlo isn't a fit right now as he is a winner and we are a bunch of losers, but he will change that.
The reality is that they are terrified that we really mean business this time. We must keep stability and commit to giving our new manager the time and resources he needs. There will be setbacks and our response as fans has to be to hold our nerve and back the team.
117 Posted 22/12/2019 at 08:09:21
This is Everton, mate, so it's probably both.
118 Posted 22/12/2019 at 08:27:23
The media obsession with them is both nauseating and worrisome. I just hope one day we can knock them off their fucking perch!
ps: Will they be having a parade?
119 Posted 22/12/2019 at 09:04:44
There really is a Father Christmas after all, better than any of us could have dreamed of.
120 Posted 22/12/2019 at 10:02:21
Hopefully Ancelotti will have the desire to stick around and really build something special. He will give us a far better chance at getting that top-quality player then his predecessors.
I just feel sometimes that us Evertonians are cursed, we've spent loads of money and the players just don't perform.
Liverpool don't spend big like we've been doing and they keep getting absolute class players at a snip.
Let's just hope our fortunes improve because every summer lately since Moshiri has come on board and started splashing the cash I've expected great things from our team for just to see them massively under-perform and actually get worse each year.
The football on offer has been terrible, the performances been shocking. I know we've been unlucky Gbamin not featuring through injury and then Gomes getting taken out but we were underperforming even with Gomes in the team.
Onwards and upwards, hopefully, because at the moment we are a laughing stock for the rest of the league and it's difficult to watch our performances.
The best part of going the game for me lately is the ale!
121 Posted 22/12/2019 at 10:13:55
But the same could be said for the Red Bull clubs on the continent (Salzburg and Leipzig), who are top of their respective leagues. They keep unearthing gems, albeit inevitably selling them on to... well, Liverpool among others.
122 Posted 22/12/2019 at 10:15:38
123 Posted 22/12/2019 at 10:17:37
I did watch some of his 1st training session with Bayern, kindly put up by Steve Fearns, and what struck me immediately was the limited instructions given by the coaches to the players. It was almost as if there was this innate understanding between coach /players of exactly what was required, from the get-go. Seemed to me like a mutual respect between great coaches and great players.
I suppose that's my only concern, where the hell do they start with this bunch of under-achievers? Some are OK and will work, some are just plain idle and here for the money only, many are just rubbish, and some young lads who need coaching properly.
I can only presume and hope that they will concentrate on the worthwhile (we all know who they are), bring some quality in January, stay up and discard the 10 or 11 who are free-loaders. Repeat this in the summer and move out the free-loaders at a huge loss.
I have no illusions of the enormity of the task in front of Ancelotti. This being Everton, I just pray that he is backed fully, proven quality bought, this sentimentality removed, and they don't try to shaft him. All being equal, top 8 in a year and competing for top 6 or top 4 in 2 years.
Deep breath and give them a chance: form is temporary, class is permanent after all.
124 Posted 22/12/2019 at 10:24:40
We have so far:
- manager: Carlo Ancelotti
- fitness: Francesco Mauri
- assistant: Davide Ancelotti
- assistant: Duncan Ferguson
- nutrition: Mino Fulco
Were missing the nuts and bolts guys. At Bayern he had Paul Clement and Hermann Gerland. For this to work, Carlo needs a first class coach to implement coaching tailored to his tactics and the opposition.
125 Posted 22/12/2019 at 10:52:48
126 Posted 22/12/2019 at 11:18:28
From your list, it seems he has a core of go to coaches which would suggest continuity and solid transition from job to job – I like a man with a plan! Still think it will take time though.
Oh, and the fitness coach will earn his money!
127 Posted 22/12/2019 at 11:46:14
128 Posted 22/12/2019 at 12:05:25
So instead of blaming the manager for all our ills as in the past, we will know where to look if we still lack success.
Ancelotti is guaranteed to attract a better class of player, the onus is now on Brands and the club to give him those players.
Exciting times with a capital E.
129 Posted 22/12/2019 at 12:12:12
130 Posted 22/12/2019 at 12:33:53
Surely to God we are due a change of luck as Liverpool keep getting out of jail with late late shows almost every game or something similar. Everton get a late equalizer and still lose the game. Go figure.
Okay they messed up with yet another manager in Silva but surely this man's credentials says he can do something. He saw some of the crap he has to deal with on Saturday and One hopes he has a name or two in his head to bring in to get some chemistry in this team.
The passing against the Gunners was as bad as it has been all season. I still can't understand why Tosun was the one to replace Iwobi but some of Dunc's moves surprised a few of us.
131 Posted 22/12/2019 at 12:43:44
Last season, there were many games where we were in control, with the midfield of Gomes, Gylfi and Gana being particularly impressive, one of the best in the Premier League. But things were undermined by the inability to finish off in front of goal. In other words, things were undermined by not replacing Lukaku, a problem that preceded Brands and Silva.
There was too much reliance on Calvert-Lewin, who had a very difficult task. In defence, Keane and Digne were in very good form, Keane particularly linking well with Zouma, and the defence buttressed by Gana. But of course, there was still a problem with mental resilience, as evidenced by the collapse in form after the Anfield Derby. But we still managed to finish the season well.
This season was immediately undermined by the absence of Zouma and Gana, a drop in form from a number of players including Keane, Digne and Sigurdsson, and some terrible injury problems. Incoming signings were of little help, because of being crocked when they arrived. The rest is history.
Precisely because we managed to control many games last season with this squad, even with the loss of Gana and Zouma, provided Ancelotti is not undermined by not being able to get two or three new signings that he probably considers necessary, I see no reason why we should not start performing much better, subject to injured players returning to fitness. With Ancelotti's expertise, we should expect a chronic problem of Everton, lack of mental resilience, to be finally sorted out.
So, although there are many posts saying it will take two or three years 'to sort this lot out', I cannot see this to be the case; if we don't see a more rapid improvement, I'd be very surprised and disappointed.
132 Posted 22/12/2019 at 12:55:00
Merson talks about us as if we had no right to dream... a 'who do we think we are' attitude because we have Ancelotti. So come on Carlo. Get us back where we belong.
134 Posted 22/12/2019 at 13:39:41
I hope he does what we all want and that this is his kind of job.
135 Posted 22/12/2019 at 14:06:03
136 Posted 22/12/2019 at 14:30:12
137 Posted 22/12/2019 at 15:40:13
138 Posted 22/12/2019 at 15:49:06
139 Posted 22/12/2019 at 15:49:50
What United may probably have to do to a club legend is becoming increasingly inevitable because they made an emotional decision on the back of an initial good run of results and fan nostalgia. Watch the Chelsea space too: lost 3 on the bounce. Emotional decisions very rarely end in success.
140 Posted 22/12/2019 at 15:52:55
Obviously it could go pear-shaped & take a nose-dive or equally we could be at the beginning of a well overdue new dawn. I think the key is for the board to back him 100% both in terms of personnel and his vision for the team.
I am not going to take much heed in what figures in the media are saying about (which I have to say is quite negative) the appointment, as a lot of them commenting are ex-red shite or complete cretins like Merson, who snorted out what meaningful brain cells he ever had.
Reading between the lines, the general narrative from these ‘pundits' is that he is too big for our club and we would have been better off with a Moyes type character to work with the current squad. I just think a lot of them have egg on their faces as they never thought he would come to Everton.
Yes, he will be coming to us no doubt on a king's ransom, but I think it is a lazy argument to just suggest that he is only coming here for the money. With his CV, he could go near enough anywhere. He could easily get a job in China and get double of whatever we are paying him. Benitez and Pereira are two of the highest paid managers in world football on around £25/30 mill a year & both in China. Ancelotti has a better CV than both of them, so I am sure he could attract a similar job offer.
I think he has come with assurances that he will have significant funds to bring in his own players and build a team in his own vision and of course his in-built desire to win trophies. As I said, the key is the board and club buying into this.
Personally I will be happy to fuck off the "plucky little Everton" tag that has been attached to us for too long and bring back the beast of a team that I supported as a kid in the '80s.
Let's get behind him and enjoy the ride! (Hopefully!)
141 Posted 22/12/2019 at 16:04:14
Ancelotti in terms of football is on a whole different planet to Wilder & frankly appointing Wilder would just buy into the "plucky little Everton" narrative.
142 Posted 22/12/2019 at 16:13:47
"Plucky little Everton" has dared to appoint one of football's elite rather than accept we can't win things anymore, and should have appointed one of their mates (Hughes, Moyes etc) or a so-called up-and-coming manager who is good at getting teams promoted and keeping them up / surviving (Howe, Wilder... to be confirmed over time). "Know your place, Everton" is basically what they might as well be saying.
How dare we try to genuinely believe we could possibly take the next step.
Quite a few years ago, they laughed at Man City's ambition but then elevated them once City signalled their intent. They gushed over Leicester for different reasons. I don't know what it is, but it seems the pundits have no time for our footballing history or heritage; it's like it's been airbrushed from history outside of the city of Liverpool and our extended family around the globe. A place we have ended up in, forged over years of Moyes playing to their tune and downplaying expectation. Convincing them as well as a generation of our own supporters that mediocrity and averageness is success.
Maybe this has rattled them, because if we back this guy, he will win trophies and disturb their current darlings. Winning is what he has consistently done as a player and as manager.
I'm off to watch Howard's Way again to remind myself what it used to feel like. It could, just could, be on its way back again.
143 Posted 22/12/2019 at 16:14:55
144 Posted 22/12/2019 at 16:20:12
145 Posted 22/12/2019 at 16:25:39
Robson dropped out & Southgate went back to working his way through the coaching ranks to get where he has now. Admittedly within the confines of the Eng-ur-land setup & I'm still not convinced of his club level credentials or ability.
146 Posted 22/12/2019 at 16:26:49
There's no way Carlo comes here without the promise of big money! He can do a great job of attracting the right players. I do worry about offloading some of the deadwood though! Over to you again, Marcel!
147 Posted 22/12/2019 at 16:32:21
"A place we have ended up in, forged over years of Moyes playing to their tune and downplaying expectation. Convincing them as well as a generation of our own supporters that mediocrity and averageness is success."
That encapsulated the grievous pain I felt reading a slew of posts from some of our readers on here — The 15-percenters — who wanted that ginger charlatan back in the saddle. Thankfully their deluded wishes have not been granted, and we now have an elite manager in his seat.
148 Posted 22/12/2019 at 19:25:11
I have to admit that I fall in to the category of "the fifteen percenters" as you classify us, who wanted Moyes back during the Martinez, Koeman and Silva debacles. In his defence, I would argue that without his efforts we may well have been relegated into the Championship [and possibly even further] after the Walter Smith era. I honestly believe that he performed miracles in the context of the financial constraints placed upon him.
My rationale for wanting him back was simply because I felt he would be arguably the most sensible option in the precarious position we currently find ourselves in. I concede that he would not have been a long-term solution for restoring the club to it's rightful position as the pre-eminent club in the city. However, Duncan has performed extremely well in his brief tenure as manager with five priceless points secured which may yet well prove crucial in retention of our Premier League status. Arguably, if he had wanted it, he should have been given longer.
Whether Ancelotti is the answer is very much a moot point. Another long contract that may have to be paid up if things don't work out and we are totally reliant on Moshiri staying on board which is far from guaranteed. As I've already said, notwithstanding the general euphoria over Ancelotti's appointment, the proof of the pudding will be in the eating.
149 Posted 22/12/2019 at 19:39:18
150 Posted 22/12/2019 at 19:39:28
He will not be scared of the RS. He beat them in the Champions League this year and drew at Anfield. His team also beat them 3-0 in a Friendly in July.
151 Posted 22/12/2019 at 20:07:29
Going back to a Moyes appointment, that would also have been a moot point and the proof would have evnentually been in the pudding. But he'd have been even more up against it with the 85% against it. The atmosphere from the onset would have been toxic. Moyes has happened, been and gone. We need to get over that era & put it behind us.
Personally the difference here is I'd rather put my eggs in the basket of someone who is a proven winner & gamble on winning rather than putting them in a perceived basket of safety with someone who promises us stabilisation and mediocrity like we'd already had and got fed up with. Also, does he still even have that in his arsenal? He has consistently failed in every job since leaving Everton, where he led a charmed life on the back of what he "achieved" with one of English football's largest sleeping giants.
Moyes bashing over, let's respect the guy for what he did at the time. But he's not the future.
I'll go for thinking big and going out to win over setting up not to lose and hoping for the best every time and claiming success as being "We didn't lose" or "It could have been worse".
Let's get a winning mentality back into this club and the fan base.
152 Posted 22/12/2019 at 20:27:11
153 Posted 22/12/2019 at 20:57:55
Moyes must very much regret leaving Goodison and the evidence is incontrovertible that certainly he did not achieve success at any of his subsequent appointments. However, I still think he has the ability to resurrect his career and make a positive impact at another top flight club. I wish him well in his future endeavours.
I very much agree we have to get the winning mentality back into the club- we have been struggling in the shadows of our neighbours for far too long.
Although I have reservations about his appointment, I genuinely hope that, now the decision has been made, Ancelotti does succeed.
154 Posted 23/12/2019 at 13:24:54
Not too hopeful mind.
155 Posted 31/12/2019 at 22:10:58
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