Ancelotti talks of his short-term goals and long-term ambitions for Everton

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Carlo Ancelotti held his first press conference as manager of Everton at Goodison Park this morning and he spoke of what drew him to take the role and what his plans are, both in the immediate term but also for the future.

Much has been made of the Italian's decision to take a job at a comparatively smaller club to some of the Continental giants he has managed before like Real Madrid, AC Milan, Paris Saint-Germain and Bayern Munich but Ancelotti reiterated that he is attracted to clubs with ambition and a plan.

“The attraction is the history and the tradition of the club,” he explained. “This is one of the biggest teams in England. It's true that I've managed top teams but when I was at Paris Saint-Germain, the project was really good and that is what attracted me. So the ambition of the club is the same here.

“It's not true that I only managed top teams; in Italy, at the beginning, I managed Parma and that was not a top team. I like teams that have ambition and a clear idea of how to reach their success.

“So, looking here, I went to the training ground yesterday and it's a fantastic training ground. The fact that the club wants to be at a new stadium means that they have a clear idea of how to have success.

“Of course, it would be good for me to be here when the new stadium is opened so this is what attracted me.

“Today, I started work with a lot of commitment. I am really excited. I want to start, to try my best to help the team to be better, to help the club to be competitive, and give happiness to the supporters because it's been a lot of time since we won anything.

“This takes time. It won't be overnight but we have to be patient but with a clear idea and a clear focus and I'm sure we're going to improve quickly.

“I think the squad is good — there is a good mix of experienced players where you can see a sense of belonging with players like Coleman and Baines.

“Of course, we have to improve but the first thing is we have a lot of games in this period and we have to be focused there and after that we can talk with the board and Marcel to talk about how we can improve this team.

“We're focused on putting the best team on the pitch and to try to win games because the most important thing right now is the result and after that we can talk about everything."

Asked what he felt was still achievable this season, Ancelotti replied:

“To improve our [position in the] table and try to be closer to the top than the bottom — that's it. Our goal is try to play better football, I think, because these players have the quality to play better.

“I saw the last four games and I think Duncan [did] a fantastic job because the team showed fantastic spirit and after that I think we have to try to play attractive football.

“I saw also how the supporters push the team forward and I think this is good — they want to see an offensive [brand of] football and I would like to put a good style of football into the team.

“The long-term goal is to be competitive in the Premier League, of course, but we want to be ambitious and to be competitive in Europe would be good.

“I love to train, I love to manage and I'm really passionate about my job. My dream now that I work for Everton, which is a fantastic club, is to bring Everton to the top positions as quickly as possible."

 

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Bobby Mallon
1 Posted 23/12/2019 at 17:08:26
I love his enthusiasm. He'll do for me.
Jim Bennings
2 Posted 23/12/2019 at 17:19:40
The man is immense.

I said it the other day, if you are a footballer and you can't get driven and enthusiastic about learning from and working with Carlo Ancelotti then I really don't think they should playing football.

Our players should be absolutely overjoyed that a man of Carlo Ancelotti's stature is working at this club, passing on the knowledge hes had for decades across numerous countries and trophy successes.

My advice to Everton players, sit up, listen and learn, then you might just find out how to become a better player and have a stronger positive mentality.

Jimmy Hogan
3 Posted 23/12/2019 at 17:21:35
It was exciting under Dunc, but a bit high altitude at times for my liking, so it's good to hear Ancelotti reference the style of football.
Kevin Molloy
4 Posted 23/12/2019 at 17:22:03
it's so great hearing Simon Stone at the national broadcaster asking in Ancelotti's first press conference repeatedly why such a great manager would come to a little tinpot club like Everton.
Peter Mills
5 Posted 23/12/2019 at 17:23:27
I was a bit taken aback when Carlo said he “wants to give a penis to the supporters”.

I'm grateful to Lyndon in his article for explaining that our new manager wants to give us ‘appiness.

Brent Stephens
6 Posted 23/12/2019 at 17:25:16
Jim #2 "I said it the other day, if you are a footballer and you can't get driven and enthusiastic about learning from and working with Carlo Ancelotti then I really don't think they should playing football".

Yes, and I can't imagine them saying "shit, I'd have prepared Unsie of Fergie or Howe".

Dave Evans
7 Posted 23/12/2019 at 17:27:56
Another dawn. This time it appears like the real deal.

The players have a great opportunity with Ancelotti and his staff.

Brent Stephens
8 Posted 23/12/2019 at 17:28:02
Ah, Peter, the old variation on the Ken Dodd song.
Peter Mills
9 Posted 23/12/2019 at 17:28:57
He did say it though, Brent!
Dale Rose
10 Posted 23/12/2019 at 17:41:30
Do for me
Jay Wood
[BRZ]

11 Posted 23/12/2019 at 17:44:32
I was thinking first thing today, if you were an Everton player going into training this morning, what a buzz, how curious you would have been with the knowledge in your head:

"I'm going to be trained and managed by Carlo Ancelotti today and for the foreseeable future!"

If that doesn't motivate you as a professional footballer, then you are literally in the wrong game.

Christy Ring
12 Posted 23/12/2019 at 18:02:25
You can see he's a class act, and Moshiri has shown his ambition, bringing a winner to the club.
John Davies
13 Posted 23/12/2019 at 18:14:37
Great interview. Real drive & some decent humour thrown in for good measure. Just chuffed to bits to have him at the helm. If our players can't learn from this guy then they'll never learn anything. Good times to come under Ancelotti I'm sure. COYB!
Robin Gomme
14 Posted 23/12/2019 at 18:23:28
Am I the only one who keeps logging on to TW to see which world class players we are now rumoured to be signing, only to be disconcerted by the fact that the third rumour under the Rumour Mill is Moyes to return to Everton.
Is there something they're not telling us?
David Doran
15 Posted 23/12/2019 at 18:28:02
Absolutely made up with this signing, this will do me. Three weeks ago I was thinking relegation. Now the sky is the limit.

Anyone know when they are going to start on the stadium? What a Christmas present. Can't believe all this stuff is happening.
Joe McMahon
16 Posted 23/12/2019 at 18:31:07
The man is class. We have manager who has managed Real, Bayern and an unbelievable Millan team. So refreshing from Preston, Wigan and Watford.

Ladies and Gentlemen we finally have a winner!

Colin Glassar
17 Posted 23/12/2019 at 18:32:19
Can we now, once and for all, bury the myth/legend that is David Moyes? May his name never be mentioned in the same breath as Everton.
Michael Barrett
18 Posted 23/12/2019 at 18:33:29
Here fucking here colin
Paul Tran
19 Posted 23/12/2019 at 18:36:21
I'd love that, Colin!
Joe McMahon
20 Posted 23/12/2019 at 18:39:41
Colin, absolutely, you speak for many of us. We endured 11 bloody years of him!
Ray Jacques
21 Posted 23/12/2019 at 19:00:09
Our gob shite players wont be able to down tools on this man.
They will be thrown out the door in a flash.
Martin Mason
22 Posted 23/12/2019 at 19:04:08
The really frightening thing is if this man can't make us good again. We must be patient whatever we do, he won't have an easy job. We look a bit too heavy with coaches and managers though.
John Boon
23 Posted 23/12/2019 at 19:07:23
Like all the posts I have read I am more than delighted by the appointment of Ancelotti. However I also think it is time to forget about David Moyes. I think he did far more good than harm during his tenure here. He certainly does not deserve the venom directed toward him.

I certainly would not want him to return any more than most fans. Personally I often did not approve of certain managers we have had in the past but no manager deseves hatred and vitriol directed toward them. I have seen many managers since the time of Cliff Britain. I am sure that they ALL wanted to be successful.Those that did succeed are celebrated as they should be. However those who were not good managers could have also been fine people.

Why waste time and energy by hating anyone who has ever been associated with our fine club.

Jeff Spiers
24 Posted 23/12/2019 at 19:14:02
Ray@21. Well said. And I hope those players who sulk are on their bikes.
Ray Said
25 Posted 23/12/2019 at 19:16:56
John Boon (23) a great post-thanks
Jack Convery
26 Posted 23/12/2019 at 19:17:30
Welcome Carlo - Happy Xmas and a great 2020 for you and our great club. and a happy xmas to all you TWers wherever you are. Jack C.
Francis van Lierop
27 Posted 23/12/2019 at 19:28:31
He even made Dutch tv with his press conference.
Ok, it was about his reaction to the racist incident at the Spurs.
But it shows we are increasing our footprint.
This is progress already.
Barry Rathbone
28 Posted 23/12/2019 at 19:29:10
Please God he can make it work I'm sure the mediocrity of this club has made me borderline manic depressive these past few decades
John Pickles
29 Posted 23/12/2019 at 19:32:46
Davie Moyes blue and white army!

Hope that really pisses you off Colin!

Mike Price
30 Posted 23/12/2019 at 19:41:36
The manager is in place but it doesn't make it any easier to get rid of our deadwood. You couldn't give away some of our 20 million plus players for free because their contracts are insane and no other team would pay 20 percent of their salaries!!
The next wave of incoming transfers are critical, we can't get it so wrong again.
John Atkins
31 Posted 23/12/2019 at 19:45:03
Love the positivity from the majority of tofffeewebbers no wonder we have an inferiority complex and struggle with a winning mentality- let's just hope Carlo can install this into the players far more easier than installing into most of you lot
Mark Andersson
32 Posted 23/12/2019 at 20:05:19
I love the way toffee web gets easily side tracked. David Moyes ?

Shaun Laycock
33 Posted 23/12/2019 at 20:07:18
Can anyone do a Fernsesque synopsis of Don Carlo's philosophy, tactical preference and preferred formation(s)…?
I would like to know a bit more about him. I am just purely excited at this appointment and want to know what to expect!
Steve Ferns
34 Posted 23/12/2019 at 20:26:01
Shaun, how about this: Link

Note that Carlo Ancelotti does not have a set formation or style. His strength is his ability to adapt. He is fluid and moves with the times which is why he has had 17 seasons at the top. Most great managers find themselves left behind as they have great tactics, then everyone catches up and they get left behind. Something people suspect has happened to Mourinho. Ancelotti in adapting has avoided this.

He is a student of the great Arrigo Saachi, having played in his great AC Milan side and so his early days where spent recreating this with some initial success but then finding himself out of date and from then, he found the ability to adapt.

The video above will show you how he adapted Sarri's 433 into a 442, but it does not explain that Napoli lost Jorginho who was crucial to the 433 as the pivotal player. This was a major headache that he had to overcome and I think led to the change in formation. Anyway, it's an enlightening video.

Steavey Buckley
35 Posted 23/12/2019 at 20:35:28
I hope Ancelotti does not embark on a spending spree that includes paying over the odds for players in their late 20's to achieve results in the short term. Everton have gone down this root already with expensive failures such as Bolasie, Walcott and Sigurdsson.
Dennis Stevens
36 Posted 23/12/2019 at 20:39:32
Aye, Steve #34 - But is there any formation that'll consistently get the best out of our bunch of misfits?
Steve Ferns
37 Posted 23/12/2019 at 20:43:48
Dennis, I would say 4231!! Carlo Ancelotti is more likely to use the new version of 442, the double 6 formation:

CF CF
AM AM
DM DM
LB CB CB RB
GK

Very narrow through the middle. It allows the fullbacks to get forwards, which is a problem with wide midfielders in the traditional rigid 442, they simply get cut off. It also prevents being outnumbered by a 5 man midfield in the middle of the park. If Carlo goes for this formation it allows Richarlison to play up top but pull left like he likes to. It would also allow Sigurdsson and Iwobi to play centrally together, presumably with Iwobi free to pull wide and find space.

You'd then have two of Delph, Schneiderlin, Davies, Gbamin and Gomes in the deeper positions to hold and launch the long passes that underpin the formation.

Dennis Stevens
38 Posted 23/12/2019 at 20:57:51
4231, Steve?! I'm sure many will have had enough of that for a while! If what you say about Ancellotti being pragmatic about these matters is the case then I suspect he may well be just the man we need for the next few seasons as, hopefully, the squad quality is steadily improved.
Steve Ferns
39 Posted 23/12/2019 at 21:11:58
Dennis, I would like to see Cruyff tactics, but we don't have the players Link

So much depends on two players, Gbamin and Gomes. Gbamin I don't know enough about. I liked his ability to read the play and intercept like Gueye. He seemed faster, and more able on the ball, but most of the videos of him had him making poor passes immediately afterwards. Regardless, I read that his quad muscle "exploded" or something and it's a really nasty injury and he may never be 100% in his leg again. So that's a serious concern.

Gomes had an ankle injury, and with the ankle you can never be sure the ligaments recover 100% and if he loses movement, will he be the same player? So much of his game is based on his ability to turn and use his strength to hold people off. Regardless of that, he's had 3 or 4 injuries now, he had injuries at Barcelona and seems forever one to be injured.

Delph is always injured. Schneiderlin needs to be sold, unless Ancelotti can use his magic to make him into a player again. So by my calculations we are 3 midfield players short of a 433! We can cobble together a competent 4231 and rely on the attacking players to score. But we need a holding midfielder who is what Gbamin is meant to be, fast, powerful, good reading of the game, and able to bring the ball forward to speed up transitions, and can pass. Those players are not cheap. Alongside him, we need a fit Gomes preferably one with more pace and less injuries. The other position can be filled by Davies or Delph for now.

Niall McIlhone
40 Posted 23/12/2019 at 21:16:30
Steve@37. The Iwobi / Sigurdsson axis in AM is an interesting prospect, however, that is pretty much the end of Walcott and Bernard as first picks? I, personally would like to see Bernard as a try out in AM as he has the guile to pick a pass in tight areas, but the absolute priority for me is keeping Richalison central as he is our proven goal scorer as things stand. All in all, w should take huge encouragement as the manager's appointment, one can only hope that the squad are as enthused as the supporters are.
Steve Ferns
41 Posted 23/12/2019 at 21:23:26
Niall, Bernard could easily play there. The problem with Bernard is he is too lightweight to play centrally. He can get easily marked as a 10 in a 4231. The 10 is boxed in. It's hard to find space, unless he's quick. With the double 6, the two 10s are encouraged to pull wide, so Bernard would actually play exactly where he already plays, as he's hardly on the touchline and is drifting inside into the Pienaar positions to pick up space. This formation would let him do that.

Walcott would be deputy to Richarlison. If you have Calvert-Lewin as striker he can be the other centre-forward and drift right to create space for the AM behind him. He would again play more or less where he likes to play now.

I think it's this kind of formation we will see next year from Ancelotti. He likes two strikers, and Richarlison, Kean, Walcott and even Calvert-Lewin all seem to play better in a two man attack. So he will look to make that work.

An old fashioned rigid 442 would require wide midfielders, ie not Richarlison or Bernard or Walcott, so we'd need to play Digne and Sidibe there to really make a 442 stick. And I just think it limits us going forwards. You end up with too few in attack, and too few in defence.

Dennis Stevens
42 Posted 23/12/2019 at 21:23:53
Aye, Steve. Perhaps Holgate may find himself in Midfield instead of defence for a while. After all it's probably easier to find an additional Centre-back than a Defensive Midfielder.
Colin Glassar
43 Posted 23/12/2019 at 21:26:08
Just to clear up one thing regarding my many posts dissing Billy Kenwright and David Moyes. I. Don't. Hate. Either. Of. Them!

They are probably two, thoroughly good, decent people. I hated the years of drift and mediocrity under the stewardship of BK. I also hated the lack of ambition I felt Moyes showed during his reign.

I have nothing personal against either of them. Moyes is dead, long live the Carlo!! That's my attitude from now on until facts prove otherwise.

Steve Ferns
44 Posted 23/12/2019 at 21:32:57
Colin, when dead Moyes die?
Steve Ferns
45 Posted 23/12/2019 at 21:39:14
Superb interview a few years ago with Carlo Ancelotti in 442. Link

These are my highlights:

Who is the one player you wished you had signed, but missed out on?

I tried to sign Steven Gerrard from Liverpool when I was at Milan, but it just wasn't possible. I was close to taking Roberto Baggio to Parma, but I didn't because he wanted to play in a different position than the one I wanted him for. Today I can say it was a mistake, but back then I didn't want to change my system. Now, with more experience, I could say, ‘OK, no problem – we will try to find a position for him.' In Italy I would also have loved to manage Francesco Totti. It would have been interesting to manage Wayne Rooney, too.

You're known as a calm character. Do you ever lose your temper? What happened when you lost your temper the most?

It was when I was at PSG in 2013. We went out of the Coupe de France on penalties against Evian, and we had played really, really badly. I was very angry – so much so that I broke a door. I also kicked a box and it landed on Ibrahimovic's head. He didn't react. If I ever lose my temper, I need to leave the dressing room and sometimes go and have a quick cigarette and then I'm fine again, although I am trying to give them up.

I also like the fact he told Ronaldo he was on the bench, and the fact he was an extra in the star trek film Link

Shaun Laycock
46 Posted 23/12/2019 at 21:40:14
Thanks Steve. Strikes me as flexibility is key to Ancelotti's style. We don't have the players to look after the ball well enough. We have players who were bought for a 4321/433. Don Carlo is going to have his work cut out to get a tune out of our decimated squad.
Shaun Laycock
47 Posted 23/12/2019 at 21:48:09
It strikes me a diamond may fit.
JP
SC/DS. YM. MK. LB/LD

MH

TD. FD

GS/B

DCL. R

Shaun Laycock
48 Posted 23/12/2019 at 21:53:50
Sorry, formatting didn't work.
Bobby Mallon
49 Posted 23/12/2019 at 21:56:23
For Christ sake all this talk of formations and we don't have DMs or AMs. We have midfielders who have been categorised by fans, but they are midfielders who should and will do any of the above mentioned DM AM jobs. Some play left some right some center but they are midfielders who should follow instructions, when we don't have the ball get back and tackle. When we do have it show for it and get it forward
Steve Ferns
50 Posted 23/12/2019 at 22:03:47
Shaun, I think Ancelotti remains a disciple of Sacchi. The fact that tactics evolved and Sacchi's philosophy got left behind doesn't mean it is dead. Ancelotti is likely to draw on the key components of that for Everton.

High Line is essential. Silva wanted it. Brands failed to get the quick Zouma style centre-back we needed. If Everton have not already signed a centre-back to come in at the start of January I will be thoroughly surprised. I expect Brands has finalised a deal that needs only rubberstamping once the window opens and that said centre-back will be quick.

Compact lines. Sacchi loved the compact lines, 25m from attack to defence. This makes it impossible to play through, yet you can aggressively press in the modern way.

Counter-pressing. Another modern concept, discussed with reference to Klopp's Liverpool, but something Sacchi's Milan were doing in the 80s. If you don't know what counter-pressing is, and let's be honest, these are just buzz words, you will do, you'll just call it something else. For example, I remember discussing pressing with my Dad: "We called it closing down, son!". Counter-pressing is simply fighting to win the ball back as soon as you lose it. Like Liverpool and City do, swarming the player who won possession and forcing him to cough it up, knowing the opposition can concede in a dangerous position and having been in attack, they might have started to run up the pitch and so be completely exposed to the counter-counter-attack. An Achilles heel of Silva's Everton for sure.

Quick direct passing - moving the ball quickly from front to back to beat the modern pressing game. One touch vertical passing was a big component of Sacchi's Milan.

The thing that Ancelotti inherited from Saachi though is his in game management. Ancelotti is second to no one in the game at making changes mid-match to win a game. Which is why he has a terrific record in the cups.~

Arrigo Sacchi: Link

Bobby Mallon
51 Posted 23/12/2019 at 22:05:02
My team,

Pickford
Sidibé
Kean
Mina
Baines ( only because someone has said Deign wants to leave)
Iwobi
Davies
Holgate
Bernard
Richarlison
DCL

Steve Ferns
52 Posted 23/12/2019 at 22:08:31
Bobby, why can't we discuss tactics and formations and yet you can give a team, and even omit Digne on the basis of some bogus rumour (As if he is leaving Everton for 12th placed Lyon who cannot afford his wages, never mind his transfer fee).
Tony Everan
53 Posted 23/12/2019 at 22:18:03
Steve 50, Counter pressing or whatever name it goes by.

Did you watch Tottenham vs Chelsea on Sunday. Chelsea were right at it, absolutely fantastic 'counter-pressing' to win the ball back as fast as possible. Mourhino's Tottenham were shell shocked with it in the first half. I was well impressed with their work-rate and attitude. Liverpool and Man City set the standard for it. Barcelona's success has been built on it.

I thought our midfield last season from Jan were on to it with Gana the main component. I am sure there will be at least one Gana-Kante esque midfielder bought in the next few weeks.

Les Murray
54 Posted 23/12/2019 at 22:27:03
Not fair to slag Moyes off now. He did what he could with the funds available but agree that for the club to move forward we have to have a winning manager
I think we have one now
Steve Ferns
55 Posted 23/12/2019 at 22:27:51
Tony, I saw only the highlights I'm afraid. It's something Lampard will have picked up off Ancelotti who in turn was drilled in it by Sacchi in the 80s. Of course, everyone else thinks it was invented by Klopp. And yes, I expect Ancelotti to be demanding a quick energetic midfielder.
Jim Harrison
56 Posted 23/12/2019 at 23:14:09
Les 54

I agree with you. And Colin!

It's should be time we moved on. He left ages ago and has all but washed away from top flight football as a active participant. If he was up to it he would have a job. Plenty have been available.

But to disparage his work is a tad harsh. Not perfect by any means, but given what he had and what he brought in I think we can give a fair amount of credit. But yeah, he's long gone.

John McGimpsey
57 Posted 23/12/2019 at 23:29:43
I need a Phd to keep up with this. I can tell you one thing Carlo will have seen Kean and what his strengths are. So if Zlatan does come there is your starting two and that's without a million dvd's pattens, 3421+1 or LGBT+☆《●♡
Bobby Mallon
58 Posted 23/12/2019 at 23:32:47
Steve Ferns, it wasn't meant to have a go at you or anyone else. I just think that a modern-day midfielder should be able to both defend and attack and just be called a midfielder. Merry Christmas
Bobby Mallon
59 Posted 23/12/2019 at 23:42:38
I think our 2013-14 squad was a better squad than today's.
Colin Riley
60 Posted 23/12/2019 at 23:50:03
I'll bet the first day today with the players, Carlo looked at Duncan and said,

"Fuckin 'el, you done well this past month, lad. You had a job getting a tune out of this lot!"

And Dunc says, "Aye boss, like trying to play Led Zepp's Stairway to Heaven with a banjo."

John Boon
61 Posted 23/12/2019 at 00:20:59
Steve Ferns, I am out of breath trying to follow all of your posts. Not critical about any of them on an individual basis. I am a lot older than you are but I still find my mind and body exhausted after putting together just one post (@123). Even then I reread it to make sure it is relevant, reflects my own personal perspective and opens up for others to be critical of my particular point of view.

After that, I leave the computer for at least two hours in order to relax. I also have my wife of over 52 years who helps me to relax by saying such things as, "Are you on that bloody ToffeeWeb again?"

I sometimes use you as an excuse by trying to tell her what Steve Ferns just said. She really is behind the times because she then told me that she has never heard of you. I tried to remind her that Steve is the guy who knows more about Everton than Moshiri, Kenwright and now Ancelotti rolled together. Just shows you how much she knows as she said "Who are they?"

Steve. Just how do you do it?

Jerome Shields
62 Posted 24/12/2019 at 00:53:02
Gosh, I am really impressed with this press conference. No bullshit, just cutting to the chase, so much better than we have had to listen to for so long.

I now think he sees Everton as a challenge with real potential. What's more, he sees the potential that we all have known has existed, only to see Manager after Manager piss about trying to utilise it.

He comes across as someone who has the measure of Everton and knows what to do.

I was wrong to say that he was the Italian Big Sam with an attacking option. He is not a mercenary, but the real McCoy, a Manager who wants to win something.

I'm really looking forward to the Ancelotti era. .

Jason Davenport
66 Posted 24/12/2019 at 01:03:42
Steve Ferns, please keep up your knowledgeable posting. I always look forward to reading them. Thank you.
Bob Parrington
67 Posted 24/12/2019 at 01:08:37
Welcome to Everton Carlo!
Bob Parrington
68 Posted 24/12/2019 at 01:12:28
Bobby @51- Who said Lucas Digne wants to leave? I doubt it is true.
Billy Dawber
70 Posted 24/12/2019 at 05:33:05
I can understand everyone getting excited for our new manager but, in reality, our last game was nothing but embarrasing to say the least. If I was an Everton player, I would be shitting myself not to be pulled aside and told to do one as that was just not acceptable.

There was not a single player you could honestly say deserved to wear the shirt, and to think the new guy was watching the dross being served up. I would be sacking at least 6 of them straight away.

On a good note, at least he now knows how bad we are and what he needs to do sooner rather than later. There are some good players we've got but, on the whole, we need another big clear out before we can even start challenging for anything.

Hopefully there will be some changes for the Burnley game and we'll see how it goes. Could be an eventful January, one thinks. Merry Christmas one and all. COYB.

Colin Glassar
71 Posted 24/12/2019 at 06:55:10
Gosh, I didn't know people still said gosh. So that's a golly gosh from me to you, Jerome. Jolly good post though. Merry Xmas to one and all.
Peter Warren
72 Posted 24/12/2019 at 07:58:11
I'm a big fan of Gosh as well as Geez not to be confused with Jees.

Forgetting Ancelotti's achievements which mean nothing to us, I'm glad we have a manager who appears confident in his own ability, a good man manager and is flexible on tactics. I don't mind stubborn managers but found Martinez and Silva infuriating that they would never change when we didn't have the best players! Koeman and Allardyce I just didnt rate.

I also get the impression that Ancellotti wants to play attacking football and I think he will play bravely when he can.

I'm very much looking forward to seeing how it all pans out.

Merry Christmas to all and as always, massive thanks to the editors of the site.

Frank Sheppard
73 Posted 24/12/2019 at 08:25:33
Got to be excited by this appointment, relegation does not seem in the frame anymore. Two serious points I would like to make-
1- I hope he does not commit us to lots of expensive Euro stars in January, that don't fit in, and cost us a fortune.
2- His immediate targets make sense, and dare I say it, will get us back to where we were under David Moyes most of the time.
Ray Smith
74 Posted 24/12/2019 at 08:49:08
Billy 70

Totally agree with your comments.

It's the nearest I've come to leaving before the final whistle.

It may be a blessing in disguise as Ancelotti can now see what he has let himself in for.

Good job he signed before the match!

Jamie Evans
75 Posted 24/12/2019 at 09:04:04
Watching Carlo's press conference yesterday, I genuinely felt like I was in the presence of greatness.
Shaun Laycock
76 Posted 24/12/2019 at 09:10:42
Steve, I believe it is called gegenpressing. Some interesting articles written about it.
Paul Tran
77 Posted 24/12/2019 at 09:13:05
Steve #50, your arl feller was spot-on. We ruled the roost in the mid 80s by 'closing down', 'earning the right the play', or what is now known as 'counter-pressing'. Imagine that great team with today's fitness levels?
Kevin Molloy
78 Posted 24/12/2019 at 09:13:33
Very impressive first performance. I think we can put to bed the idea this guy has just flitted around the top clubs riding the brilliance of the players. This is a serious heavyweight presence... Like all of the top managers, you wouldn't want to cross him.
Tony Hill
79 Posted 24/12/2019 at 09:15:55
I expect that Ancelotti will be pleased to have the opportunity to develop Holgate as a player. He will have seen the great talent waiting to be honed. At 23 years of age this man is a jewel in the making but needs someone to eliminate his tendency to lose concentration.

Yes, we certainly need to have better players come in but there are a few here who could flourish with the new manager. I was looking at that nugget of quality amid the dross on Saturday when Calvert-Lewin had the shot blocked. The move leading up to it was lovely and Calvert-Lewin was at the heart of it.

Much for Ancelotti to do but he is not without raw materials.

Kim Vivian
80 Posted 24/12/2019 at 09:27:06
Steve - not being funny, but is this all stuff you know, or that you research as soon as a name or topic gets mentioned, and then batter us with detail and stats etc on here? Sometimes it's like trying to read a book in a foreign language.

Whatever it is – I admire you for your acquired knowledge or fortitude in researching.

I shall continue with my speed reading skills.

Erik Dols
81 Posted 24/12/2019 at 09:43:05
Steve Ferns #39 - For Dutch tactics enthusiasts, the Cruyff on the Diamond clip is legendary. Never knew it was subtitled to English and used in teaching other football enthusiasts. Surreal and amazing to come across that video on ToffeeWeb!

It is hard to explain in how much regard I hold Cruyff. I am not an Ajax-fan, never have been, but Cruyff was on another planet tactically. And regularly explained his tactics on Dutch TV so even some nitwit like me could understand it! Or at least think he could understand it. Thanks for your post, made my day.

Sorry to stray away from the subject at hand!

Billy Dawber
82 Posted 24/12/2019 at 09:46:01
I have been watching and supporting the Blues since me dad put me on his shoulders in 1966 to watch the team coming home with the FA Cup down Everton Valley. Then, the glorious '80s when we were the best team on the planet to us Blues.

We have had some good teams and been close on a few occasions of winning something but few and far between have these occasions come to fruition because of one thing or another.

I like to think that it just wasn't our time but I have a niggling thought that we just ain't been good enough be it because the way we have been coached or simply just that being satisfied with mediocre.

I for one am absolutely pissed off with mediocrity now and think that we as fans deserve a lot more. Why the hell we don't walk out a lot more or even stay away, like we used to when things are going tits up, I will never know.

Getting the new man in will hopefully change the mentality of all the supposed-to-be Everton people and give us long-suffering Blues something to finally shout about instead of hoping season after season we will win something. Here's hoping for a long-awaited change in fortunes. NSNO.

Neil Young
83 Posted 24/12/2019 at 09:54:32
It's going to take time to sort out our beloved Blues. There will be rough with the smooth. So we need to get behind Carlo even when it looks dodgy. He is no Silva and will adapt his tactics to the game he is in.

I can't wait but I can't see much happening this season other than establishing some stability. The summer is where Carlo will get to mold the team he wants... and I can't wait! 😊

Derek Taylor
84 Posted 24/12/2019 at 10:12:37
I'm a cantankerous old bugger and can't help saying we should wait a while before crowning Ancelotti as the greatest of all managers to have held the post at Everton.

Over seventy years of following the club, only Catterick and Kendal Mk 1 could possibly claim to have been 'great' -- and even their lustre faded over time. Personally, I was also a fan of Carey, Lee and, for much of his time here, Moyes, but none of them came anywhere near greatness.

Like all Evertonians, I want to be excited by the coming of the Italian but I will wait to see what he achieves this season before crowning him as our saviour incarnate. Top seven would be a start.

Pat Kelly
85 Posted 24/12/2019 at 10:31:38
So... "to try to be closer to the top than the bottom" — that's it for this season. He's watched videos of the past few games and knows how much needs to be done.

The sooner he has his "talk with Marcel and the board about how to improve this team" the better. Next week would be good.

Brian Harrison
86 Posted 24/12/2019 at 10:55:49
There were quite a few photographs on twitter yesterday of Carlo walking round the city centre. I think it shows an air of confidence that he can mingle with the fans, something Koeman or Silva never did. He spoke about it being a football city and said he liked the respect and kindness he was shown.

I see at least Henry Winter and Martin Samuels don't agree with some of their fellow hacks who have suggested Ancelotti to Everton isn't a good fit. This is a man who has won everything with different teams in different countries. As I have said on other threads, if he had waited till the summer, he could have had his pick of one of the top sides in world football. But I think he sees more of a challenge to taking over at Everton.

While many quote the money he is getting, had he gone to China, he would command 3 times more than we are paying him. I don't think this has anything to do with money, this is a man on a mission. I have complete faith in Ancelotti and yes, it may take a few transfer windows, but he will bring success to Everton.

Steve Carse
87 Posted 24/12/2019 at 11:13:49
Brian (86), I hope on his walkabout he didn't get the impression that most visitors do of Liverpool being a one-club city. If he did (and he could hardly otherwise with the city centre LFC Murals, stalls selling merchandise of which 75% is RS stuff etc), I hope it's something he can find time to address with the Board.
Ray Smith
88 Posted 24/12/2019 at 11:16:27
When was the last time an Everton manager lay down the gauntlet to the Reds?

He has a big job on his hands, but he's being positive rather than negative.

Early days, but with Big Dunc alongside him, the fighting spirit will only get better (last Saturday excluded).

Tony Hill
89 Posted 24/12/2019 at 11:30:21
Brian, @86, Winter likes Everton and his comments on Ancelotti are very interesting. Not least, he says that our new manager is humble by virtue of his beginnings and he tends to get the best out of people around him without being "driven" in a Klopp/Guardiola way.
Derek Knox
90 Posted 24/12/2019 at 11:59:51
Steve @ 39, it's all Dutch to me! 😋

I certainly am looking forward to the game, as always, not that will be massive personnel change, but more to see the change in motivation and desire from the players.

I have said many times that I don't believe the players we currently have are all that bad, but often they have not been utilised as they should have been either.

Depending on other results, 3 points won't make a massive difference to our position in the table, but string a couple together, and the leap would be noticeable.

Such is the middle at the moment, a couple of wins, or losses, can be so dramatic. We have lost a lot of ground, before Duncan got us five unexpected points, which, because of other results around us meant we more or less stagnated.

Lennart Hylen
91 Posted 24/12/2019 at 12:02:57
Oh, what I love to hear the positive words, offensive football, ambitious, competitive etc.

He brings a positive air to our beloved Everton FC.

Very welcome Carlo Ancelotti. 😊

Brent Stephens
92 Posted 24/12/2019 at 12:36:03
Brian #86 "while many quote the money he is getting, had he gone to China he would command 3 times more than we are paying him. I don't think this has anything to do with money".

I sense the same, Brian. And while there's some debate about the size of the pay packet – (and I know there are other new staff we'll be paying for) put that into context – an "average" player costs how much these days? 㾷M for 4½ years for a guy who could turn us around dramatically just pales into insignificance.

Dale Rose
93 Posted 24/12/2019 at 12:58:35
Good article in the i about him.

If Ancelotti builds an engine around Ferguson's fire, Everton can roar again

Feeling very positive now.

On another note, Happy Christmas to all on ToffeeWeb. There may be some who disagree with Happy Christmas. Wouldn't be ToffeeWeb if they didn't. COYB.

Derek Knox
94 Posted 24/12/2019 at 13:06:31
Dale @93, Bah Humbug! 😋🎅
Mark Burton
95 Posted 24/12/2019 at 13:08:52
Happy Christmas to everyone on TW and may Carlo bring us all a prosperous New year.
Nicholas Ryan
96 Posted 24/12/2019 at 13:13:28
Gosh!
Lennart Hylen
97 Posted 24/12/2019 at 13:20:56
The same to you Mark Burton from a Toffee in Sweden.
Robert Tressell
98 Posted 24/12/2019 at 13:42:32
A lot of the transfer activity will depend on Gbamin's fitness. He is the supposed Gueye replacement. Transfermarkt says January but who knows. There will be plenty of silly rumours as there always are. Always exciting to see striker rumours but centre half and possibly goalkeeper more urgent. I could see something like Niakhate of Mainz + some proper competition for Pickford + getting over excited, someone like James Rodriguez on loan.
Clive Rogers
99 Posted 24/12/2019 at 13:53:03
Robert @98, Gbamin's injury is a serious career-threatening one. I doubt whether he will be up to speed this season if at all. In the couple of games he played, he admitted to struggling with the pace. He has previously had thigh-muscle problems.

I expect Carlo to go for a striker as I don't think he will be happy with what we have got. No shots on target on Saturday.

Tony Abrahams
100 Posted 24/12/2019 at 14:03:18
Gbamin had an operation mid-October and was expected to be out for 12 weeks Clive, so I was hoping to see him in a blue shirt by February?
Tony Hill
101 Posted 24/12/2019 at 14:06:18
I fear that we will have to discount Gbamin and Gomes for the indefinite future. It's obviously a major problem for us and I expect us to buy in January.
Michael Williams
102 Posted 24/12/2019 at 14:07:45
I will beg the folks on here and at Goodison for patience regarding our new manager and any players that are brought in. This is a long-term project. If there was an easy fix, one of our previous five managers would have found it. This is a squad with lots of players no-one else would want – certainly not at the price we bought them for and the wages we pay them.

There will be bad losses and ugly performances along the way. Maybe more of these than good ones early on. Now that we have a truly world-class manager, we must support our manager and players during what will probably be a long transition. Think about the relative difficulties of Pep's and Klopp's first years with squads that were miles ahead of what we have now.

Tony Abrahams
103 Posted 24/12/2019 at 14:26:01
Sensible post, Michael, especially because we have a Roman in charge now!
Phil (Kelsall) Roberts
104 Posted 24/12/2019 at 14:51:42
Ray#88 - Last time we threw down the gauntlet to the reds - when a manager walked in and said the streets of the city are filled with people in Everton gear, this is the club of the people in this city

Yup, love the comment, get us back to where Moyes had us for most of his term after sorting things out - top 6. Like even more his desire for Top 4 and eventually Top 1.

Lot of revisionist history with Moyes. Steered us out of very choppy waters in the years after Joe Royle left to touching distance of being at the top. Failed but therefore considered a complete failure, especially because of actions in August 2013. But I think back in March 2002 we would have bitten anyone's arm off for the latter years of his tenure.

So let us drop it. And yup, pity we got Kenwright, we could have still had Peter Johnson as chairman and owner.

Robert Tressell
105 Posted 24/12/2019 at 15:30:50
Without Gbamin then we really do need midfield reinforcements then. In his position could realistically pick up Sangare, Berge or Roca in January. All good quality. Jan is always trickiest for strikers. Possibly Mariano Diaz or Belotti. At a push Gabigol from Flamengo / Inter. Otherwise you end up scraping an expensive barrel for someone no better than tosun. Summer would be more fruitful.
Shaun Laycock
106 Posted 24/12/2019 at 15:49:51
I would prefer not to do business in January but to promote youth as a sticking plaster. January is a rubbish time to buy. I agree, I would discount any meaningful minutes from Gbamin and Gomes this season.

I would be keeping my powder dry for a well-planned trading window; more out than in.

Robert Tressell
107 Posted 24/12/2019 at 16:01:21
Really sad about Gbamin. He's a class act. Gomes too obviously. Youth is okay if we're talking about Gordon and keeping Davies, Holgate, Calvert-Lewin and Kean in the first team. Not sure we've got much to promote beyond that.

I would love to see us hoover up a bit of young British talent like McNeill and Aarons but we probably need some foreign players to form the foundations first. Quality not quantity will be the key, though.

Mike Gaynes
108 Posted 24/12/2019 at 16:20:27
Dale #93, nobody disagrees. And a Happy Hanukkah right back at ya!
Paul Tran
109 Posted 24/12/2019 at 16:32:28
Michael #102, that is wonderfully sensible and should be the equivalent of a pinned tweet on here!
Francis van Lierop
110 Posted 24/12/2019 at 16:50:55
Thanks Steve Ferns for the posting the Johan Cruijff diamond 'lecture'. I found it hilarious, the way he put the (continuously interrupting) Jan (know it all) Mulder down (If I wanted you to understand, I would have explained it better - lol)

As a player Carlo was no slouch, playing in the golden AC Milan era under Arrigo Sacchi. What a team, with Marco van Basten, Ruud Gullit and Frank Rijkaard, they were just the three Dutch players. Franco Baresi, Paolo Maldini, Roberto Donadoni and of course our Carlo were the pick of the Italians.

I imagine Carlo listened well to what Sacchi would have said; not only did he run the midfield, he has used it to his advantge as a coach.

John Pendleton
111 Posted 24/12/2019 at 19:57:26
Merry Carlo Ancellotti New Year to all.
Albert Perkins
112 Posted 24/12/2019 at 20:20:41
God Jul Lennart, 97. My wife, Karin, is a Swedish Blue also. Just tucking into some Fika. Kransen and coffee and dreams of King Carlo taking us to the promised land.
Richard Mason
113 Posted 24/12/2019 at 22:57:55
Happy Christmas, Blues. May we have a happier New Year.

Really excited for St Stephen's Day, I hope the players are fired up and we hammer Burnley.

Benjamin Dyke
114 Posted 24/12/2019 at 23:05:31
Another toffee in Sweden here. There's a few of us. God jul, happy Christmas everyone!
Tony Hill
115 Posted 24/12/2019 at 23:51:27
That's another difference: our Scandinavian fans are hard core. As far as I can tell, that goes for most of our foreign-based supporters. No dickhead hangers-on.
Anthony Jones
116 Posted 24/12/2019 at 00:01:20
He was on ٣ million/year.

He got paid off to leave Napoli.

We "negotiate" a 㾷.5 million/year contract.

I'm no Actuary but who the Hell decided to offer him that amount?!

God only knows what his son is being paid!

Paul Birmingham
117 Posted 24/12/2019 at 00:06:18
All The Best to All & Far and Evertonians every where, All The Very Best, God Jul, Lykke Til and The Rest.

We are brothers for the cause and our time to get back to former glories, is now, but it will take time,

Merry Christmas & Good Health to All Evertonians.

Time for some new propaganda and shirts to be designed and agreed and made. This is our time, but it's just starting.

“What's Our Name?”

John Cook
118 Posted 25/12/2019 at 02:03:10
Going through some health problems at the moment, my wife in intensive care as I write. Still, like to wish all Evertonians a very Merry Xmas and a great New Year! NSNO
Mike Gaynes
119 Posted 25/12/2019 at 02:45:50
John #118, so sorry that this is such a difficult holiday season for your family. The very best of thoughts and wishes to you and your wife.
Barry Ringrose
120 Posted 25/12/2019 at 03:59:31
I am a first time contributor to the site, I have supported Everton for 60 years, born in Liverpool now living in Canada. I access the site every day and wanted to share my feelings.

The last few years have been very difficult for the supporters of this great club and this has been a very negative period in our history. I watched the Holy Trinity play and win the League, it was amazing.

Like everyone else I have been so disappointed in the club; the past 3 managers have been awful but now we have hope. We have a serial winning international manager, financing from our majority Owner and a new stadium in the plans, this has to be the most exciting period in our current history. Let's embrace it, support the new manager and forget the negativity. COYB.

Ajay Gopal
121 Posted 25/12/2019 at 05:18:08
John, I am sure I speak on behalf of all TWers in wishing your wife a speedy recovery. Stay strong! All the best.

Merry Christmas to all my fellow Everton fans – happy holidays! Thanks, Lyndon and Michael for giving us this wonderful site to share our passions about all things Everton. God bless.

James Hughes
122 Posted 25/12/2019 at 05:29:20
John, best wishes to your wife wishing her a speedy recovery.

Season's greetings to all from Hong Kong, I left London 12 hours ago. Time for a crimbo pint.

John Zapa
123 Posted 25/12/2019 at 05:37:08
Anthony @116, the number I've seen in various media outlets is ٧M per year, which is still ridiculous frankly. I do find it unnecessary to have offered such a large amount and such a long contract, 4½ years. It was well documented that he was on around ٣M at Napoli, would ٤M and a 3-year contract not been enough to entice him?

Ancelotti never stays beyond 2 years at any of his previous clubs (Milan the exception). That means the club will probably have to pay him around 2½ years of compensation at that point, which is close to 㿅m. Moshiri (fool) and his money will soon be parted.

Nev Renshaw
124 Posted 25/12/2019 at 06:18:19
Well. If we don't win something sometime with this fellah then we can forget winning anything ever again. We're in the last chance saloon.
Mike Gaynes
125 Posted 25/12/2019 at 06:18:47
John #123 and Anthony #116, I'm sure Moshiri appreciates your feedback on his financial decisions and negotiating strategy. After all, it's not like he's successful or anything.

The most recent estimate I saw of Moshiri's net worth is $1.9 billion. That's an increase of $500 million in less than a year, and nearly double his listed net worth at the time he first bought into the club. So his businesses are doing really, really, really well.

He can afford to pay Ancelotti out of the change he finds under his car seat.

John Zapa
126 Posted 25/12/2019 at 07:36:40
Mike #125, Moshiri's net worth according to Forbes in 2017 was $2.3B; it's dropped to $1.9B in 2019, so I'm not so sure he is going in the right direction financially as you imply.

His track record of judgement since buying the club has been extremely poor. The multi-million-pound payoffs to sacked managers almost every year is a clear indication of this.

His willingness to hire managers who have completely different styles and different player requirements is also an indicator that he has no clear idea of how to progress the club. In fact, each time he opens his mouth to Jim White, he reveals what a buffoon he is.

It's easy to just ignore these points and say everything is fine since it's his money and he can spend it how he likes; however, we should not forget that he is just a custodian of the club, and we should be concerned about what shape he will leave the club in when he eventually departs.

Tony Hill
127 Posted 25/12/2019 at 08:23:44
John @118, with best wishes to you and your family in such difficult circumstances.
Ray Roche
128 Posted 25/12/2019 at 09:11:09
Merry Christmas to all on TW, have a good peaceful day. And best wishes to your wife John, I hope she is soon on the mend.

Regarding Ancellotti's salary I read that the £11.5m was for him AND his coaching staff which makes a bit more sense.

Peter Mills
129 Posted 25/12/2019 at 09:22:22
Best wishes all round, especially to John and family#118.
Kevin Latham
130 Posted 25/12/2019 at 09:35:16
I believe that Don Carlo is a great appointment, we have a world class and truly respected manager at our club. Of course there are no guarantees and it would be unreasonable to expect any, but I just hope to God that we have patience with him.

The toothy character across the park took nearly 3 years to deliver and some of them wanted to get rid on the way. We may well flatten off after the usual new manager ‘bounce' but Carlo will need time like every manager does so let's hope we as fans keep our collective nerve.

On the point of Moshiri and his money, I always have a little smile when people have a go at a billionaire for being a fool with money. Years ago, an electrician mate of mine was working on a multi millionaire's house, he said to me "He's a right knobhead, doesn't know what's going on. I can take him for anything." He was getting 㿀 per day and lasted less than a week and the knobhead who was employing him is now an international businessman. My mate didn't do irony, see?

Anyway, a happy and peaceful Christmas fellow Blues, especially those who are facing adversity - we're all standing beside you.

Francis van Lierop
131 Posted 25/12/2019 at 09:37:50
Merry Christmas and best wishes to all.

In the last year that Steven Pienaar was at our club, Roberto Martinez said to him that he saw a coach in him. They did talk about it in length.
Pienaar is now coaching the Under-16s at his first big club, Ajax, as an internship. He's now living in Amsterdam, and coaches an amateur club (4e klasse – not too high).

Dale Rose
132 Posted 25/12/2019 at 10:27:56
John 118. All the very best mate.
Derek Knox
133 Posted 25/12/2019 at 10:37:23
John Cook, my thoughts are with you and your family.

Looking forward to tomorrow's game, not only the side selected, but to see if there is a renewed belief in the players, whoever is selected must give their all.

John Cook
134 Posted 25/12/2019 at 10:50:20
I want to thank all you Blues for your kind messages. Have been following ToffeeWeb for quite a while now, I don't post too often only when I feel I have something to say or contribute. A Scouser, now living in North Wales, and season ticket holder, I've been watching the blues for 60 years.

Some great guys on here and I know several of you have had upset and sickness in your own families. As Blues, we understand and stick together. I believe it is what separates us from other supporters. Again, many thanks and all the very best for the New Year. NSNO.

Anthony Jones
135 Posted 25/12/2019 at 11:19:27
Mike #125: So all rich men are financially infallible?

Or, perhaps many successful people are very very very good at a few specific things?

And crap at others.

Negotiations with the unemployed lead to the balance of power being in favour of the employer.

I may not be a billionaire but this is an unassailable fact.

Merry Christmas!

David Midgley
136 Posted 25/12/2019 at 11:30:33
John Cook.

May those Blue healing rays shine on you and your family.

David Greenwood
137 Posted 25/12/2019 at 11:42:21
Best wishes, John, and all Blues everywhere.
Paul Jeronovich
138 Posted 25/12/2019 at 12:45:18
Is it okay to get excited about our new manager now?
Stan Schofield
139 Posted 25/12/2019 at 12:49:36
Paul @138: It was always okay.
Dave Abrahams
140 Posted 25/12/2019 at 12:57:05
Echoing the thoughts of many Evertonians with thoughts of John (118) and his wife's health, I hope she makes a good recovery.

Best wishes to John, his family, and all Bluenoses for a good peaceful holiday.

Drew O'Neall
141 Posted 25/12/2019 at 13:04:26
John @ 118

Wishing you and your wife the best.

Merry Christmas to Toffees everywhere.

Nil Satis Chrissy Optimum!

Bill Griffiths
142 Posted 25/12/2019 at 13:25:59
Best wishes, John, hope everything works out all right for you and your wife. Best wishes and all the best for the new year to all ToffeeWebbers.

Looking forward to the next get-together.

Ed Prytherch
143 Posted 25/12/2019 at 14:53:31
A Merry Christmas to everyone in the ToffeeeWeb family from Columbia, South Carolina.
Eamonn McEvoy
144 Posted 25/12/2019 at 15:38:08
Alright lads, just got my gift of an Everton home game for this season from the Mrs and Kids. Which game????
Paul Birmingham
145 Posted 25/12/2019 at 15:42:04
John @ 118, our prayers and thoughts are with you and the family, at this difficult time.
Don Alexander
146 Posted 25/12/2019 at 16:14:51
Best wishes to you and your missus, John. I'm confident no stone will be left unturned in how they look after her. God bless the NHS.
Jay Harris
147 Posted 25/12/2019 at 16:36:14
John Cook
I would like to express my best wishes and thought for your wife to make a full and speedy recovery.

Xmas can be a sad time as well as joyful so we need to keep a sense of perspective and think of those less fortunate.

May I also wish all ToffeeWebbers, Michael & Lyndon and everyone at our club a very Happy Xmas and a more prosperous new year.

Mike Gaynes
148 Posted 25/12/2019 at 16:53:39
Anthony #135, agreed, but I'd say that in this case the formerly-unemployed-now-employee has done very well and the employer has been exceptionally generous.

Hope everyone is having a great day. For me, of course, it's just a Wednesday off... and the day before the Boxing Day fixtures!

Mike Gaynes
149 Posted 25/12/2019 at 17:09:54
John #134, hope you continue to reach out here. The people on this board are amazing. TW helped get me through, will do it for you and yours as well. Don't be shy about keeping us up to date.
Andrew Laird
150 Posted 25/12/2019 at 17:30:22
John 118, best wishes to you and your family. Stay strong.
Aidan Baker
151 Posted 25/12/2019 at 18:49:22
In 1982, when I was 17, I was sent on a cultural exchange with a Roman family. I didn't know it before arriving but the father was a doctor who worked part-time for AS Roma Football Club's youth team.

As with all enthusiastic supporters, he fed me with details of his team. One player he singled out was a young attacker from Emilia who had joined Roma from Parma a couple of seasons earlier, that the Roma manager Liedholm converted into a box-to-box midfielder – Carlo (more commonly known as Carlito) Ancelotti.

That was probably the best Roma team ever assembled (better than the 2000-01 Scudetto team in my opinion) and included a midfield alongside Ancelotti of Agostino Di Bartolomei, Falcao and Bruno Conti.

People here have rightly stated the influence of Sacchi on Ancelotti's approach but I think Liedholm who managed that Roma team was just as important. Sacchi is an intense character with an eye to every detail, the swede Liedholm by contrast was a very laid back individual but a great reader of the game.

I think Ancelotti learned from both and also the national coaches he played and coached under - the World Cup Winner Enzo Bearzot and Cesare Maldini come to mind. Note he also played under Sven Goran Ericcson at Roma before transferring to Milan.

Here in Italy, Ancelotti is a popular character, in part for his comic side and his love of eating (Emilia is known for its cheeses and meats), in part because he takes time to talk and rarely avoids a journalist's question. Reading his match notes, one can sense that Everton may be the perfect club for him. I think we all hope so.

He started in management at a club in a similar position to Everton – Parma, and though he has had lots of success, he has also some 'non-successes' (I wouldn't call them failures as he was nowhere near being relegated) to his name in his time at Juventus and Napoli.

He works well when he has the right people behind him to back up his judgements, at those clubs he didn't get that space as decision making didn't involve him (Moggi at Juve, De Laurentiis at Napoli).

Benvenuto, Carlito

Steve Ferns
152 Posted 25/12/2019 at 19:34:02
John Cook, best of luck mate. I hope your wife pulls through.

Great post, Aiden. I would appreciate more of the view from Italy.

Aidan Baker
153 Posted 25/12/2019 at 19:56:30
Best of luck to John Cook from me as well.
Julian Exshaw
154 Posted 25/12/2019 at 20:04:41
To John Cook. I truly hope your wife pulls through. Prayers and best wishes. God bless.
Tony Abrahams
155 Posted 25/12/2019 at 20:17:27
It's a very long day Christmas, but I've just sat down and my first thoughts were about going to Goodison tomorrow, then I can't believe we have got Carlo Ancelotti, and after reading this thread that I hope John's wife is hopefully going to pull through.
Brent Stephens
156 Posted 25/12/2019 at 20:19:19
John Cook. All of our hopes are with you.
Mike Gaynes
157 Posted 25/12/2019 at 20:21:17
Aiden #153, absolutely brilliant post. Many thanks.
Andy Meighan
158 Posted 25/12/2019 at 21:04:07
John. I hope you wife is okay, mate.
Kase Chow
159 Posted 25/12/2019 at 21:45:52
Merry Christmas all

Good luck to those in need or suffering

And as I read very recently, football is the most important least important aspect in our lives so let's hope our fortune changes and brings good cheer

Up the toffees - c'mon you blues

Ron Marr
160 Posted 25/12/2019 at 21:55:25
John Cook, best wishes to you and your wife.
Paul Tran
161 Posted 25/12/2019 at 22:00:17
All the best to you and your wife, John. Make sure you look after yourself as well as her.
Brian Williams
162 Posted 25/12/2019 at 22:02:02
John. Believe me when I say mate there is ALWAYS hope. Believe me too when I say you MUST be positive and this time next year you'll be posting on here remembering how things were, and being all the stronger for having faced it, fought it, and defeated it.
Ian Linn
163 Posted 25/12/2019 at 22:05:43
John Boon (23) a great post-thanks
Darren Hind
164 Posted 25/12/2019 at 23:01:29
John Cook.

Your Missus will be in my thoughts and prayers too. So will you mate.

Frank Thomas
165 Posted 25/12/2019 at 00:00:26
I was impressed that Carlo did not accept the job offer straight away. He watched the four games that Duncan was in charged and obviously studied the players, their strengths and weaknesses individually and as a team. At the same time I have no doubt that he negotiated several things before signing a contract.

The first was the absolute right to say when and if a player is sold or bought. He will have noticed the problems Koeman had when we kept our word to Lukaku and allowed him to leave before his contract was up. He will have noticed that effect of losing Gueye on the team, once again keeping our word.

I have no doubt he would state that we kept our word when players have finished their contract here and been paid for every day selected to play or not selected.

Second a guarantee of a 'set amount' of transfer funds delivered from the board for the first two years and then from earning and the board after his second full year.

Thirdly having his son as his assistant manager for the 4 year plus deal.

This is a Win, Win, Win situation for everyone.

It is a Win for the owners. If we get into the Champions Lceague, the difference between 4th place and 5th place is now going to be worth about 㾻M more due to the payment changes in the Champions league (more than Carlo's salary).

It is a win for the fans we will see more entertaining football and more success.

It is a win for Carlo because he can give his son premiership and European football management experience while experiencing a lot less pressure than if they were managing PSG.This also gives us fans another win when we are in the champions league we will have a ready replacement in Carlo's son.

I like the fact that he is taking the time to talk individually with players and staff and has already gone on the offensive against this, 'we cannot beat Liverpool' feeling that seems to pervade some players minds.

Everything about this man seems to ooze honour, class, confidence, planning and ambition. These are the characteristics that he also sees in Everton FC and it's fans.

Thank you Mr Ancelotti for joining and leading Everton. Best wishes to you, your family and your staff.

John Cook
166 Posted 26/12/2019 at 00:11:13
They have moved my wife from ITU to HDU (High Dependency Unit). Thank Christ it looks like she is over the worst. I am humbled by the support you guys on here have given me but not surprised, as this is a great site for not only Evertonians but great human beings.

We are at one and I am humbled and in awe of your compassion and concern. You are the best.. NSNO
Sean Kelly
167 Posted 26/12/2019 at 00:36:20
John Cook, I hope everything turns out okay for your missus and you. Ye are in the the prayers of the ToffeeWeb Family. Best wishes lad.
Jason Davenport
168 Posted 26/12/2019 at 00:38:16
That's great news, John. I am happy for you and your wife. Best of luck going forward.
Kevin Latham
169 Posted 26/12/2019 at 00:42:11
John, so good to hear that, I'm sure it'll be onwards and upwards from here. Your Everton family is firmly in your corner as always for one of our own, please God your lady wife is back to her old self very soon
Kieran Kinsella
170 Posted 26/12/2019 at 00:45:13
Thoughts and prayers to you and your wife John Cook
Chris Hockenhull
171 Posted 26/12/2019 at 01:00:14
We've never met, John, but as I go to bed that is the best thing of hope and optimism I've heard this Christmas Day. Good luck to her and you. Love conquers all!! X
Don Alexander
172 Posted 26/12/2019 at 01:41:31
Sleep well, John, the demand on you will be serious when she gets home, through no fault of hers. Think Labby and you'll win, end of!
Eric Myles
173 Posted 26/12/2019 at 02:24:09
Asked what he felt was still achievable this season, Ancelotti replied:

“To improve our [position in the] table and try to be closer to the top than the bottom — that's it. 

Is that Italian for 'get to 40 points and we'll see where we go from there'?

Derek Knox
174 Posted 26/12/2019 at 03:50:01
Aidan @ 153, " and if you know your history " thanks for that insight into a young Ancelotti, and his roots.

I know it's early days but I truly believe, between him and Duncan we are on the cusp of a revival, which is long overdue, in my humblest of opinions.

I think he has also, very quickly, realised what a Club Everton is with probably the best fan base anywhere. So Aidan please keep your posts coming, and all the very best to you.

Seb Niemand
175 Posted 26/12/2019 at 04:06:25
I'm confident that Ancelotti will be proof of the old adage "If you buy nice, no need to buy twice". This is the best move the club could have made (better by some than Jose, which is no slur on Jose) and they acted swiftly and purposefully. I'm going to keep saying it – only 588 days ago, Sam Allardyce was in charge here. Talk about the ultimate trade-up!
Mike Gaynes
176 Posted 26/12/2019 at 05:30:08
Great news, John, and may it continue. Best wishes for a happier and healthier 2020 for your lady.
Colwyn Harris
177 Posted 26/12/2019 at 06:49:31
Hi, fellow Toffees. This is my first time commenting on the site. What a fantastic coup Carlo is for us.

I'm South African, where the Reds have a HUGE following. People are often surprised when they hear that I'm a Toffee. Hopefully, with Carlo at the helm, great days lie ahead, and the world will take notice of our beloved Everton.

3 more points today!

ETID!

Jerome Shields
178 Posted 26/12/2019 at 17:33:14
John#166

Will have you and your wife in my prayers.

Tony Hill
179 Posted 26/12/2019 at 21:40:43
Great news, John @166. And our team won too.
John Cook
180 Posted 26/12/2019 at 21:51:14
Thanks again for all the support lads.Went to visit my wife after the match and glad to report she is slowly improving,a bit like this team of ours,hopefully, green shoots of recovery under Carlo.I cannot understand some supporters in the street end today slagging Dominic,Richy andthe the Keane kid.From someone who had to watch Bernie Wright,Alan Biley,Ernie Hunt etc.,they don't know how lucky they are seeing these boys having a go.NSNO
Kieran Kinsella
181 Posted 28/12/2019 at 14:24:28
Eddie Howe advocates for the Everton job should immediately resign from posting on ToffeeWeb. RMs English nephew has been found out
Billy Roberts
182 Posted 28/12/2019 at 21:00:32
A belated welcome for you Colwyn @177
You are in good company here mate keep up the good fight in spread the word of Everton across South Africa, I know there is millions there with good taste.

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