Liverpool vs Everton

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Carlo Ancelotti is the only manager to have beaten Liverpool and prevented them from winning at home so far this season

A month after going down to the defeat that proved to be the final nail in the proverbial coffin of Marco Silva's tenure, Everton are back at Anfield in the FA Cup.

The Blues were carved open by an under-strength reds side on 4th December and beaten 5-2, a result that was the catalyst for change that ushered in the Carlo Ancelotti era and the Italian has the task of becoming the first manager to beat Liverpool on their own turf this season.

Ancelotti has already masterminded one victory over Jürgen Klopp's side, a 2-0 win as Napoli boss in the Champions League in September, and he is also the only manager to have stopped the reds from winning at home so far this season. He says that Everton have to rise to the occasion to beat the league leaders and is hopeful his team can put on a “perfect” display.

"Everyone knows how Liverpool play,” Ancelotti said in his pre-match press conference. “It's fantastic [on the] counter-attack, in transition, recovering the ball. You have to [have] a perfect game to beat them. You cannot defend for 90 minutes. We have to play our football.”

Asked how to beat Jürgen Klopp's juggernaut, Ancelotti said: “Just score more goals. Jurgen is my friend. I had the luck to beat him last season (with Napoli), also. We were able to do a great performance. That is what you have to do. Normal is not enough.”

Everton will have Morgan Schneiderlin available after the Frenchman recovered from a calf strain. He was believed to have been passed fit for the trip to Manchester City on New Year's Day but didn't make the squad but could be included this time.

Bernard will be assessed after picking up a heavy knock prior to kick-off at the Etihad Stadium in a collision with Yerry Mina while Fabian Delph is a doubt after picking up a knee problem in the defeat to City. A scan on the midfielder's knee revealed no significant damage, however, and it is hoped he can play.

Klopp, meanwhile, will be without midfielder Naby Keita who picked up a groin problem on New Year's Day but the German could field Takumi Minamino in a line-up that may again feature a number of changes as a result of the reds' hectic fixture calendar.

While Everton's league record against Liverpool has been a source of frustration for Blues fans over the past couple of decades, they also have a mixed record in the FA Cup that dates back to two painful defeats at Wembley in the 1980s and a 2-1 reverse in the 2012 semi-final.

The defeat they suffered under Sam Allardyce two years ago was their first in the cup at Anfield, however, and they were also victorious in dramatic circumstances in the replay following that famous 4-4 draw in 1991 and Dan Gosling's extra-time winner in 2009.

The drama and uniqueness of a one-off cup derby should hopefully provide the impetus for Everton to go out and give Liverpool a game under the tutelage of their new boss, even with the injuries and fatigue that are currently blighting the squad.

Kick-off: 4.01pm, Sunday 5 January, 2019
Referee: Jon Moss
Last Time: Liverpool 2 - 1 Everton

Predicted Line-up: Pickford, Coleman, Mina, Holgate, Digne, Delph, Schneiderlin, Bernard, Richarlison, Walcott, Calvert-Lewin

 

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Colin Glassar
1 Posted 03/01/2020 at 21:46:47
They’ll play their kids in a win-win situation for them. Win and they absolutely slaughter us. Lose and they have a ready made excuse.

I say, unleash the kraken. Those snotty nosed kids will never have faced a beast like Niasse. He’ll run them ragged, batter them then fall on his arse to fumble the ball over the line.

Give Tosun a farewell game as well. He might not score but he’ll scare the hell out of them.

Lossl
Coleman
Keane
Mina
Bainsey
Walcott
Schneiderlin
Sigurdsson
Bernard (if fit)
Niasse
Tosun

Brian Wilkinson
2 Posted 03/01/2020 at 21:56:11
No way will a Klopp play the kids against Everton, he may rest a couple at most but will be established fringe players that come in.
Jim Bennings
3 Posted 03/01/2020 at 22:01:11
Trying to be optimistic but it’s just impossible to see us beating them on Sunday at Anfield.

The very best we can hope for is a replay but a win doesn’t seem likely given the way they are playing over the last 18 months, a team that no matter what players it has sent out it never seems to tire.

One day we will end the hoodoo but it won’t be with this current crop of players at Everton, they simply aren’t brave enough to take chances against the very best teams and be trusted defensively to not make any mistakes.

Colin Glassar
4 Posted 03/01/2020 at 22:09:06
I think klopp has his eyes firmly fixed on the league title and CL. There’s no way he’s going to risk injury to any of his star players, all who need to rest.

Jim, do you think Klopp is repeating the German tactics used in the 1954 World Cup final against Hungary? They never seemed to tire either.

Tom Bowers
5 Posted 03/01/2020 at 22:15:02
I think we can all expect RS to have many 2nd. stringers starting the game but it will still be a tough one to win given that Everton are still in a transition phase under the new gaffer.
Jerome Shields
6 Posted 03/01/2020 at 22:20:13
I think that Ancelotti has to bend to a more Big Dunc style of play to beat liverpool. Hopefully he has learn't from the Man City not to play them on their own terms.

The team have to out Everton them.

Christy Ring
7 Posted 03/01/2020 at 22:48:44
We have to play the Dunc way, in their faces, no nicey nicey, take the smile of Klopp’s smug pus
David Cooper
8 Posted 03/01/2020 at 22:54:19
Pretty sure there are no replays! I guess penalties after extra time!
Steve Shave
9 Posted 03/01/2020 at 22:57:22
Colin (1) why would you want to play such a shit team selection in one of our biggest games of the season? why are we dropping Pickford (who was good against Newcastle btw) and WHY are we playing Tosun and Niasse???? DCL is one of our first names on the team sheet at the moment? With respect to your opinion and views, I don't get it?
Kim Vivian
10 Posted 03/01/2020 at 23:01:35
Replays 3rd and 4th rounds, David.
Kevin Naylor
11 Posted 03/01/2020 at 23:06:29
Liverpool 5/4 on Betfair indicates half a team being put out by Klopp.
Eddie Dunn
12 Posted 03/01/2020 at 23:08:28
I would play our kids with a few old heads. We won't beat their B team with our A team, so why encourage ridicule? Just send out our second string and who knows?
Then the Koppites will have nothing to crow about and our first team will have some much needed rest to recharge the very low batteries for our charge up the PL.
John Boon
13 Posted 03/01/2020 at 23:13:03
I will not see us lose. In order to do this I will watch the game after it is over. If we lose I won't watch it at all. Done to maintain my sanity. Why torture myself ? Yes I am a "Wimp" and a very old eighty year old Evertonian, who only likes to win.
Colin Glassar
14 Posted 03/01/2020 at 23:18:05
Steve 9, we also need to rotate. Give some of our second string no-hopers a chance to shine and give our first teamers a rest.
Anthony Murphy
15 Posted 03/01/2020 at 23:19:24
We’ll beat them!

Christy Ring
16 Posted 03/01/2020 at 23:23:08
Eddie if they’re B team doesn’t play Van Dijk, Mane and Salah our A team would have a lot easier task
Dick Fearon
17 Posted 03/01/2020 at 23:31:28
Our mid field and back line must not play pass the parcel as they did against 'City' or I would go berserk.
I cannot understand why Blue match goers accept without voicing dismay at such negative stupidity
particularly against fast counter attacking sides like 'City' and the RS.
We must take the bull by the horns and attack them with pace.
Mike Gaynes
18 Posted 03/01/2020 at 23:38:31
Eddie #12, not sure you're gonna get much agreement on that one. For many here, a win at Anfield would make the entire season -- nothing else would matter. I think most will advocate putting out our best 11 and going balls to the wall. There'll be time for the regulars to rest afterwards.
David Cooper
19 Posted 03/01/2020 at 23:40:29
Thanks for the correction! I guess I saw that there are no 5th round replays and thought it extended to the 3rd and 4th rounds. Let’s hope we are still involved!
Mark Andersson
20 Posted 03/01/2020 at 23:45:37
Carlo playing mind games... the shite will be complacent and think they have won before a ball is kicked...

But then again Klopp is to proffessional to slip up..

I can only realistically see another heavy defeat...

Our season begins after Sunday...

Brian Wilkinson
21 Posted 03/01/2020 at 23:54:38
A win on Sunday, ground approved a week before the Goodison Derby followed by a win and ending their invincible tag, they may well win the war, but we can still come out smelling of roses f we get things going for us in the coming Months.
Jerome Shields
22 Posted 04/01/2020 at 00:20:42
Klopp will put out a team similar to Man City, with a bench of Stars. He will be extremely happy if Everton play as they did against Man City. He will also incorporate the ball over the top to force our Defenders to defend on the turn, as he did a Goodison.
Andy McNabb
23 Posted 04/01/2020 at 00:32:26
Listen to us. We would all call it realism based on years of traumatic experiences but if we thought the players were having a similar conversation in the changing room prior to kick off we would accuse them of cowardice.

I am most definitely a glass half empty character but we have to go in with a direct approach in an effort to at least unsettle them.

4-4-2 reads as more aggressive but I think a part time sweeper is also necessary to counter those diagnoal long balls.

Their players are outstanding and it could leave gaps around the back but we really need to play higher up the pitch to stop those long balls being delivered.

Tony Mace
24 Posted 04/01/2020 at 01:13:16
As per Mcmanaman shout all game against City on BT Sport

Why don’t Everton players incorporate the ball over the top and turn their defenders

Never happened once against City even when the opportunity was there.

Instead taking 5 minutes to win the ball and 5 seconds to either give it back to City By trying to play through them or turn potential attack into a long back pass to Pickford who invariably puts the ball

1. Out
2. Back to City
3. To an Everton player in a worse position and under more pressure than the one who passed it back to Pickford

Hopefully we start to improve this aspect of the game against the shite

COYB

Terence Leong
25 Posted 04/01/2020 at 01:27:31
Our season starts every game we play, not after this game or that game.
Why go into any game not wanting to win?
I can understand being realistic of our chances.
But if we don't even hope to win, whether we blitz the opposition or keep it tight and nick one, then why bother turning up.

I cannot understand how we can say that "nothing else matters except beating the Reds". Perhaps from a hyperbolic mood, but if that's all that matters, then we have become the Man City of old.
That's all they were concerned about, defining themselves by being concerned about their red neighbours.

Yes, I see the value of giving players exposure etc.
We don't have the luxury of this at the moment.
Even then, the best managers don't do it indiscriminately.
This though is our last chance of silverware this season.

Play to win.

Bob Parrington
27 Posted 04/01/2020 at 06:27:28
Terence@25 - Quite profound. I happen to agree with your sentiments.

We should go in to each game thinking we can win it. I am sure this is what Klipperty has pounded in to the RS players.

I agree also with Carlo - we will have to be at our best to beat them . but anything is possible. Keep the faith.
NSNO

Terry Farrell
28 Posted 04/01/2020 at 07:22:27
Predicted line up for RS is not one player who started against sheff utd. We need to thrash them and yes get the ball forward early and play in their half not on the edge of our box!!!!
Rudi Coote
29 Posted 04/01/2020 at 08:39:16
The title is in the bag. Klopp will field a strong team against us. Hard to swallow, but they will win everything this season. I can't see anyone stopping them. Hope is all we have.

Carlo says we have to be perfect to beat Liverpool. Everton are far from perfect and haven't been for years.

COYB!

Eugene Kearney
30 Posted 04/01/2020 at 08:58:01
1 - 2 to Everton.
Tony Twist
31 Posted 04/01/2020 at 09:08:08
Just do your jobs blues, with more leaning towards marking the man than zonal and ball watching. Sick of seeing Holgate and Mina losing their men especially Mina, the sight of him doing a last ditch sliding block and failing is wearing thin.
Lenny Kingman
32 Posted 04/01/2020 at 09:12:17
Just to note that at the beginning of the week the reds were odds on and the Blues were out at 5/1. Now they are odds against and Everton are best price a shade under 5/2.

So the Klopp changes to his number one battalion will have something to do with that. Also the Carlo factor. I am thinking the reds are not to keen on this tie and if a tight game, Klopp would rather lose than go down the replay route!

Like Eugene the 2-1 to the Blues looks a possibility at 11/1.

Dave Abrahams
33 Posted 04/01/2020 at 09:24:34
I think if Moyes had been the manager versus City the other night he would have come in for loads of stick, and rightly so, that game on Wednesday was a replica of the
“ Knife to a gunfight” game a few years ago, we never really gave City a fight, went for a draw and never attacked with any real substance until we were 2-0 down, and then surprise, surprise, realised City were vulnerable when we, at last attacked them.

Against Liverpool, if Michael Keane is selected, we have to play deep, play like we did a few weeks ago and we could be in for something like the same result. Attack, and down the middle, as against Burnley and sometimes v Newcastle. Liverpool are a very good team but have conceded against nearly every team, even if VAR have saved them a couple of times. Oh, and try to keep possession of the ball for more than three or four seconds without giving it back to the opposition.

Derek Knox
34 Posted 04/01/2020 at 09:25:05
It's encouraging to see the positivity with most posters on here, such is the difference to what Duncan and Carlo have achieved in a month. This won't be an easy game and remember they have Old Horny and most probably the ref too on their side.

However having said that, it's not impossible either, with the run that they are on, can't remember when they last lost at Anfield, almost as far back as when we last won there.

If they go out with the right attitude and self belief, anything is possible, go out believing that they have little chance, they are on the route to a defeat straightaway. Come on you Blues remember this is the FA Cup where upsets are common, let's make sure we cause the biggest one.

Ray Roche
35 Posted 04/01/2020 at 09:47:55
Dave@33,

True Dave, or Silva, Martinez etc., how much stick would they have taken? We were totally outgunned in midfield so why not play OVER midfield and use DCL against their relatively suspect defence.? It was as, as you say, only when we took the game to them that we looked as if we might have scraped a point from the game.
I hope Carlo has done his homework better for Sunday.

Rob Halligan
36 Posted 04/01/2020 at 09:48:36
Derek, Jon Moss is the referee tomorrow. Probably one of the worst referees in the premier league. He could give ridiculous decisions in an U11 match and lose control in a kindergarten! We will definitely be playing against twelve men as he always favours one of the so called big six teams.
Mike Kehoe
37 Posted 04/01/2020 at 09:51:00
Credit where it’s due they are very good but they are not going invincible and Carlo has beaten them before. I am not so much a glass half empty person, more a who got a glass twice as big as needed, but if Carlo and Duncan can get the most out of what they have available a shock could very much be possible. This is our biggest game of the season and we need to go all out, I would be horrified to see the likes of Niasse and Tosun casting their utterly ineffective forlorn shadows around before getting subbed when we are three down. Klopp is a supremely vain man, you only have to look at his ridiculous teeth to evidence this, and he will play his b team with the big guns on the bench: as such the kind of Moyes era approach of going looking for a draw is unrealistic but if we have a proper go from the off, with wingers ready to break to keep their full backs in their own half, we can do this.
I would rather have a go and accept whatever comes than have to sit in work listening to smug fuckers who haven’t been to a game since King Kenny with my headphones on.
If there is such a thing a Karma, change is going to come.
Derek Knox
38 Posted 04/01/2020 at 10:05:31
Rob @ 36, that's even worse news, I have never seen amore unfit ref in the Prem, he rarely keeps up to the pace of the game and makes 'calls' without looking at his linesmen and from 40 yards away. (WTF)

How many times have MoD or whatever Media is covering the game proved he has 'erred again'? It is almost inconceivable that Sky or whoever, have more Camera angles than the officials have access to!

Kase Chow
39 Posted 04/01/2020 at 10:05:59
I would love to beat them but our mentality is so weak, so fragile that I just can see it

It’s too soon for Carlo to have changed the mentality. And instead players like Kean seem to have bought into it

Unless/until we can get mentally stronger we’ll never win at Anfield and that because a) we don’t believe and b) we are too scared

Origi isn’t better than DCL or Ritchie or other we have. But he has bought into their mentality and the result is he’s a champs Lge winner. We are just too fragile

Such a shame cos I can’t stand that lot

Tony Abrahams
40 Posted 04/01/2020 at 10:10:50
I would love to turn up with someone in authority and do a proper test on Jon Moss’s fitness, because I honestly don’t think he would pass this type of test.

He gives fouls to gain a rest imo, and once you start blowing for tugs, the first thing that goes is the brain, and this is the reason that I think he’s not good enough to be refereeing at this level.

He’s the worst type of ref imo, because he definitely sides with certain teams, and I’ve witnessed him send players off, but not even book others for the same offence, in the same game, such is this mans incompetence.

The richest league in the world, also has some of the poorest officials, and you only have to see some of the decisions, even with the help of instant replays, to understand this. Some of which are that bad, that loads of spectators are actually questioning the integrity of certain officials, which I just hope is not the case tomorrow.

We all want to win tomorrow, because as Ancelloti says, that would be perfect, but the most important thing is having a proper good go at Liverpool, especially if they disrespect us.

Eddie Dunn
41 Posted 04/01/2020 at 10:29:08
The team is tired and Schneiderlin's possible return isn't exactly like seeing the cavalry coming over the hill. Delph has a sore knee, Digne has been carrying a groin problem for weeks and Richie is mourning the loss of his mentor.
And Jon Moss is ref.
This group failed to save Silva's head just a few weeks ago,yet I'm sure they all tried their very best. Perhaps Carlo can give them some confidence.
I hope a change in attitude can create a different result.
Hope is all I have, as my head says it will turn out just the same as last time. We simply need some better players.
Tony Abrahams
42 Posted 04/01/2020 at 10:41:33
Freshness is an obvious worry Eddie, but sometimes adrenaline can get you through, which is something we are all hoping happens tomorrow.
Dave Williams
43 Posted 04/01/2020 at 11:19:41
Dave#33 I agree- Moyes would have been murdered for that performance and we cannot repeat it tomorrow. We need a real dogs of war showing, don’t allow them time, tackle HARD, and attack them. Carlo should have done his homework about how they like to play and hopefully will devise a way to cope with the long balls they play into their front three.
We must not get distracted by talk of them resting players. We will no doubt be missing half a team in Gomes,Gbamin, Iwobi and possibly Bernard,Delph and heaven knows who else- how much stronger would our team be with those guys fit?
Like Colin I’d be tempted to give Omar a start to run them around a bit and I’d maybe leave Richi on the bench to give him a rest. If Gordon is the type to relish the atmosphere he could be a starter but not if he might be overawed. Centre midfield is the hard one as our quality players are injured- we need Bernard to start as he has been looking useful in the last few games.
Can’t see us getting a result but I hope Carlo gets Duncan involved in firing them up and at least give us a performance to be proud of.
Steve Brown
44 Posted 04/01/2020 at 11:22:20
It's very appropriate that the year that Liverpool win the league is the Chinese Year of the Rat.
Jeff Spiers
45 Posted 04/01/2020 at 11:59:26
One thing guaranteed tomorrow. A rampant, rabid Blue Army support. COYB
Conor McCourt
46 Posted 04/01/2020 at 12:25:04
This was a worrying press conference for me.

Firstly, unlike his previous ones where he gave the calm assurance that he had a plan and was confident of victory, today's seemed about his adulation for his opponents and how tough a task.

Secondly and more worryingly was the remarks about the fitness of the team. He argued that he was happy and surprised with the fitness levels he encountered. This totally goes against what we have seen all season and doesn't fill me with hope that it's an area he wants to address.

Jim Bennings
47 Posted 04/01/2020 at 12:44:43
Kase 39

It’s all about belief and mentality to achieve things.

As you point out, our players are far too mentally fragile and confidence is and always has been very frail and limited amongst Everton’s players for years now.

A prime example was the City game on New Years Day, the amount of times we passed the ball back playing safety instead of playing with risk and believing we can beat them.

For too long at this club the fear of losing is greater than the will to win.

Ancelotti will hopefully sign better more self confident players as time goes on but sadly I think with the majority of this group of players you will never be able to get inside their heads enough to alter that.

David Milner
48 Posted 04/01/2020 at 12:45:20
Colin @1 I can't see why you have been so negative with your team list.

This is the only trophy we can win this season so we need to make a statement of intent & pick a side accordingly.

I think Pickford must start in goal with Sidibe, Keane, Mina & Baines in defense.

Then play Holgate & Davies in centre midfield with Richarlison & Walcott as the wide men.

A must is Kean & DCL up front with speed & aggressiveness.

The bench will be dictated by whoever else is fit. Please no Sigi or Schneids unless as subs.

Ray Roche
49 Posted 04/01/2020 at 12:52:31
Conor@46
I thought he might be keeping his cards close to his chest.
He’s not going to say that we’re going to batter them is he?
Robert Tressell
50 Posted 04/01/2020 at 13:05:19
Totally agree with the suggestion of Niasse and Tosun - but go further. Also vital we play Cuco Martina and Lossl, but the latter as a false 9 not GK. Stekelenburg would be in nets with Pickford as the regista but only passing by way of rabona. Or alternatively we could just pick our best players who, the City game aside, have been doing pretty well since Silva got the boot. We can win this if we do that and they play a weakened side.
Tony Abrahams
51 Posted 04/01/2020 at 13:14:30
Do you seriously think Everton lack fitness Conor? A bit of quality and a bit of leadership definitely, but once confidence comes, I’m not sure they lack real fitness.
Darren Hind
52 Posted 04/01/2020 at 13:35:44
I'm with Ray on this Conor.

"We have to be perfect to win" smacks a little of knives to a gunfight, but I think this is a bit of kidology from our man. He more than anybody knows that isn't true. He has already seen them off this season and his team were far from perfect when they did it.

What his players DID do was compete all over the park, Made absolutely sure they would win their personal battles. He was brave enough to tell his wide players to force their full backs to retreat, thus nullifying, their devastating service. He ensured his defenders sat very deep leaving very little grass for Mane or Salah to get in behind.
He basically let the Liverpool midfield players to have possession and simply asked them if they were good enough or have enough flair to find the pass to open up his team. They weren't. They didnt.
He hit them with their own break in numbers at the point of transition tactic.

I've made no secret of the fact that I worry about Ancelotti being able to work with the calibre of player we have here, but he will have devised a game plan and if the players can adhere to it, we have a chance.

There may be a few who will be let down by their Anal nerve tomorrow. Ancelotti will not be be one of them

John Zapa
53 Posted 04/01/2020 at 13:43:14
Liverpool's line up will probably consist of a young defender recalled from loan from the German 2nd division, a 16 year old winger, a youth team striker who will be dispatched to the championship after the game, a couple 17 year old Dutch defenders among other youth and squad players. If Ancelotti and the team can't beat them, they should just tie heavy weights to their ankles and jump in the mersey, no need for further misery.
Jamie Crowley
54 Posted 04/01/2020 at 13:53:07
Dave Abrahams at 33 -

I was going to say the exact same thing as you, with a bit of a twist.

I don't care who we play at CB. Keane or no Keane, it doesn't matter. We need to play deep. Really, really deep. No looking for offside, don't get sucked forward, barely cross the center line.

And that goes for the entire back four, for me. Klopp is a master at exploiting space. They'll give up space out wide for our fullbacks to think they can get into the attack, and then cause a turnover and exploit the shit out of that vacated space.

All four defenders need to stay home, in their positions, and defend.

Let Rich, DCL, and Bernard (or whomever) provide the attack.

I'd also try to clog midfield.

For me:

Picks
Sidibe Keane Mina Digne
Holgate
Davies Sigurdsson
Rich DCL Bernard

Rich and Bernard will need to run their nuts off, as they'll have to drop to clog midfield.


I usually prefer a more attacking approach. But let's be honest, the rs, as much as this is painful to say, are the best team in world football, and dangerous as fuck. We need to stay deep at the back, clog midfield, and take the opportunities as they come to us, not forcing them.

As long as Origi doesn't play, we'll win. That guy seemingly is our Grim Reaper.

Effort, prudence, intelligence and opportunism. Easy.

John G Davies
55 Posted 04/01/2020 at 13:56:37
Liverpool's line-up (if the text I got this morning with their team is correct) will give us the best chance we have of beating them for a long time.
Barry Rathbone
56 Posted 04/01/2020 at 14:05:03
Be a day off from footy as per most derby days over the past 30+ years.

For mental well being a quick glance at the inevitable on the web then back to the film or documentary as though nothing had happened is where it's at for me.

Heartily recommend it

Tony Abrahams
57 Posted 04/01/2020 at 14:06:13
John@53, whilst I wouldn’t say your post is wrong, I would say it is only something that should be said after the event, because every Evertonian should only be thinking of getting behind our team tomorrow, because surely it’s the best way to avoid the unthinkable.
John Keating
58 Posted 04/01/2020 at 14:14:48
To best our neighbours every player has to be 100% motivated to win their individual battles
One player underperforming and we are out
It’s a derby and if one player does not understand what that means he should not be allowed to put the shirt on
Mark Tanton
59 Posted 04/01/2020 at 14:16:50
I don't think it matters who they play, we'll still be up against it. They're so much better in all areas and the Anfield factor sadly seems an enormous hurdle.

Even if we do win, which will be brilliant, the headlines will be 'second string Liverpool exit cup in derby defeat.'

Paul Tran
60 Posted 04/01/2020 at 14:27:38
The team is fit. It isn't used to playing with intensity for 90 mins. It isn't used to playing with confidence against better-quality sides. We've finished plenty of games strongly this season.

Ancelotti is right. Everyone has to be on it. Everyone has to do their jobs and more. He knows how to beat Liverpool. Do the players believe they can?

Conor McCourt
61 Posted 04/01/2020 at 14:40:58
Darren 52- It wasn't necessarily what he said it was more that he didn't exude confidence. I don't doubt he will have a plan and news conferences generally mean nothing but just not what I expected based on previous ones.

Tony 51-How many games have we won in the last ten minutes? Even under Dunc when he tried to increase our intensity we were out on our feet against Utd in the last twenty minutes and against Arsenal. It was one of the big problems I had with Silva and I was hoping this will improve under the new regime. He will get time over the next few weeks but doesn't seem a priority and his chief concern seems to be our lack of quality on the ball.

Tony Abrahams
62 Posted 04/01/2020 at 15:06:38
We came from two goals down against Leicester in the cup Conor, and Arsenal was our third game in 8 days with the players being asked to play in a much more physically demanding system. I’m also sure DCL, scored late in the Chelsea game, but that’s splitting hair really, because I understand what you are saying, but I think like Paul T, when he says we are just not used to playing with intensity.

We looked physically okay against Burnley, I presume we done okay at Newcastle? (never watched) but this took its toll, and we were absolutely shattered against a weakened but much fresher City team.

That’s my worry tomorrow because if Liverpool use some of their younger players, you can guarantee they will be fresher, but hopefully the extra days rest we have had since New Year’s Day will help, because we are going to be seriously fucked if it doesn’t.

If we think we need big hearts to win tomorrow, then if Liverpool play a weakened team, I personally think we are going to need massive hearts, such will be the pressure on Everton not to lose. Let’s just hope we relish it, and then put the boot back on the other foot!

Paul Smith
63 Posted 04/01/2020 at 15:09:33
Barry Rathbone, I'm going and will enjoy every nerve wracking second, win, lose or draw. Unless we get stuffed then I will enjoy the banter with the RS fans.
Eric Paul
64 Posted 04/01/2020 at 15:13:37
It’s only banter when they win Paul, it gets nasty when they lose
Dave Abrahams
65 Posted 04/01/2020 at 15:31:17
Jamie (54), yes that’s where I would play Holgate, mopping up and bringing the ball out of defence, I think Schneiderlin will be in midfield, hopefully get an hour with Delph and use Sidibe and Davies later in the game, I haven’t forgot Sigurdsson, but I’m trying very hard to, he doesn’t offer a great deal for me, the way he’s played this season, but if he does play I’d love a goal like he scored against them, in the cup, a couple of years ago.
Paul A Smith
66 Posted 04/01/2020 at 15:37:45
I am never scared of facing this lot. Nerves kick in because of the desperation to win but go there with positive derby mentality and we can win.

Our problem there and at home over the last few years has been either negative fear or fiddling with philosophies over believing anyone can win a Derby.

Scandalous decisons have cost us too but I never hold my breath in the hope of a brave ref.

Conor 46 i thought we looked stronger late on in the last few games and once these Italian coaches get into the players we won't have any stamina issues.

Its all down to desire then.

Conor McCourt
67 Posted 04/01/2020 at 15:41:15
Tony with regards to Leicester we didn't do a tap in the first half and the second half was more about attitude. But it's more a general point aimed at how we were under Silva and so far Ferguson and then Ancelotti will have had no time to work on our levels so I thought it would be something he would want to be improving in the winter break.
Mike Gaynes
68 Posted 04/01/2020 at 15:46:46
I want this game to be starting NOW. I can't stand it that I have to wait another day.

Jamie, I like your lineup.

Christy Ring
69 Posted 04/01/2020 at 15:57:29
Just watching a training session from earlier on the website, Bernard seems fine, as does Schneiderlin no sign of Delph, who is doubtful with an injury. Have to say, I said at the time, he was injury prone, played very little last season, and we give him a better contract, than he was on at City,. A steal for £8m by Brands, ye right? We should play Holgate as defensive midfielder tomorrow, need his physical presence, and no point in having Siggy running around, not making a tackle in midfield.
John Keating
70 Posted 04/01/2020 at 16:00:47
Derby games have very little to do with individual quality It has everything to do with balls
We have to compete man to man and equal them in determination

Klopp unfortunately has instilled they are beyond being beaten We have to frighten these arseholes that we
are as good

Paul Tran
71 Posted 04/01/2020 at 16:09:11
Tony #62, we're also mentally very weak. That means we tend to over-think, take too many touches, pass it sideways or backwards. That means we look ponderous, which is different from physically unfit. Of course, many on here will say this shouldn't happen with the money they're all on, but that's how anyone's brain can play tricks - financially rich footballers are no different.
Jay Wood
[BRZ]

72 Posted 04/01/2020 at 16:37:08
Connor @ 46:

'This was a worrying press conference for me.'

Why?

When asked about transfer rumours, there was a long pause and a wry smile before he replied: 'I know it's your job to get me to answer such questions, but I want to talk about the game and the derby. It's a fantastic challenge and a fantastic opportunity. They are the world champions, but it is a fantastic challenge for us. That is my focus, not the transfer market. I want to put all my energy into explaining to the players the game we want to play.'

On explaining his own wide experience as both a player and a manager in derby games, he acknowledged how special and important it is to the supporters, but you never know what will happen.

'We need to play with confidence. Play our best and move forward in this competition. Everyone knows how important this competition is. But the last time I played in it, I won! It can be good luck for us! It's a really exciting game for us and we have confidence to do our best. You can only do that with focus and concentration, without fear.'

When questioned about playing without fear, giving Everton appalling recent record against Liverpool, he replied:

'The best way is to be focussed on what you are going to do on the pitch. And nothing else. Be focused on how to defend and how to attack.'

In referring to the fact that his Napoli team beat Liverpool in the CL not only THIS season, but also last season, he said - very accurately, very honestly (considering they just went through the entire 2019 PL fixtures undefeated):

'To beat Liverpool you need a great performance. A normal performance is not enough. Everything has to be perfect. No mistakes. Work hard. Sacrifice. Intensity. To beat them the game has to be complete.'

On being asked (on the back of DCL's comments that Ancelotti is already imposing his way on the team), he humbly deflects the praise:

'I found a fantastic spirit when I arrived which was an important base to work with, to improve. I know the players need to adapt. I ask them to do new things. I have to be patient as they adapt to the new things I ask of them every game. The fact that they try to do something new on the pitch for me is important. I don't want to change a lot and cause confusion.'

On being asked that DCL also said Carlo's confidence is rubbing off on the players, he replied:

'I am here for this. To improve the squad, the team, the club. This is my goal. This is everyone's goal and I think it will be good for our future.'

On a direct question (which you seem to be primarily basing your opinion about the interview on) how good Liverpool and Klopp are, again, he answers honestly:

'Everyone knows how Liverpool play. It's a fantastic team. Fantastic in counter attack. Fantastic in transition. Fantastic in recovering the ball and quick attack. As I said, you need to do a perfect game to beat them. Defend well. Avoid transition. Attack well because you cannot defend for 90 and we don't want to defend for 90 minutes. When we have the possibility we want to play our football.'

On the question of the congested fixture list and general fitness of his squad, he replied:

'Usually when a new manager arrives he says the physical condition is not good. I found the players' physical condition really good. The fact we didn't get any muscular injuries in this time is really good, that our physical condition is good.'

So, in contrast to your description of the presser that he spoke primarily about 'his adulation for his opponents and how tough a task' it's going to be, I heard it as a very honest appraisal about currently the world's best club side, as unappetising as that statement may be to many Blues. It is the harsh reality of just how well they have been playing for more than 18 months now.

BUT! In the same breath, he also talks up his team by saying what he wants us to do: not to defend for 90 minutes, but also attack, play with confidence, without fear.

Secondly, on the question of fitness. He did NOT express surprise at the fitness levels. He simply stated the fitness levels he found on arrival were good. The energy and effort expended by the team since Silva's demise is evidence of this, including recovering from 2-0 in the league cup to Leicester with an equalising goal in the 94th minute.

That your interpretation of that 'doesn't fill me [YOU, Connor] with hope that it's an area he wants to address' says more about you and the ambiguity you express towards Carlo's appointment than the words he actually did express.

His words equate to nothing like Moyes' 'knife to a gunfight' quote.

Rob Halligan
73 Posted 04/01/2020 at 16:51:11
Don't anyone be fooled into thinking the RS will play a team full of kids tomorrow. They have no need to rest players. It's not as if they have a European game, or anything, in midweek. Their next game after tomorrow is Spurs away next Saturday evening. I doubt either team will fancy a replay, but if there was to be one, the league game for the RS following the replay will be Man Utd at home, and they certainly won't want any injuries for that one.
Darren Hind
74 Posted 04/01/2020 at 17:10:41
Conor

Couldnt agree more. News conferences generally mean nothing, but they are worth their weight in gold to the media. Journo's know there will be enough people hanging on to a managers every word and will take them all quite literally.. Keeps them in a job

Stan Schofield
75 Posted 04/01/2020 at 17:14:14
Last season we competed well against the top-6 sides, including against Liverpool, and could have won at Anfield. It was only a ridiculous last-second error that led to a defeat. This season, now that Silva is gone, we've shown a lot of organisation and heart, despite a massive injury crisis.

We should be able to win this game, so long as we're well organised to do precisely that. And that is Ancelotti's expertise. Which players the opponent selects in their team is of secondary importance. The prime consideration is how well we are organised with a focus on winning, whoever the opponent is.

Ancelotti's focus will be a logical one, on what is required to maximise the chances of winning. He is not concerned with the history of Derby results.

In many of the posts above there is too much attention paid to negative possibilities, and a corresponding defeatist mentality. Fortunately, Ancelotti's approach is a positive one with a winning mentality.

Joe McMahon
76 Posted 04/01/2020 at 17:16:21
The darlings of the BBC and Sky won't rest anyone tomorrow, Rob is correct. Danny Murphy already has his tiny maggot out.
Paul A Smith
77 Posted 04/01/2020 at 17:50:50
Wouldn't mind us signing Under from Roma. Possibly the best natural Left Footer we could entice? I think Havertz is out of reach but would be my preference.
Brent Stephens
78 Posted 04/01/2020 at 18:02:01
A tough one tomorrow. Relative league positions and stats this season are striking but we travel in hope, as ever. In a derby those league positions and stats become less important for us, but it's only weeks since we lost by three goals. I'd be surprised if anybody saw this is a certain victory. We don't bow down to them but it's a big ask.

Our right flank was exposed to the long, diagonal ball last time. That has to be addressed this time round. No adulation for them but a grudging acknowledgement of what we're up against.

COYB. It's only a month since the last game there but let's not lose by three goals this time, nor two, nor one...

Conor McCourt
79 Posted 04/01/2020 at 18:31:37
Jay 72- It comes down to judgement Jay. I wasn't filled with confidence after that press conference. When asked if his derby record was good he said he won some, he lost some and spoke very highly of the opposition. He wasn't exactly Churchill whereas I found him more authoritative and with a twinkle previously. If your happy that we aren't going to defend for 90 minutes that's your prerogative.

Don't forget I remember you arguing with me that Silva didn't look upset after his press conference this season when he didn't get the players he wanted and we know subsequently how off you were then.

In terms of the fitness levels I used the word surprise as he said normally when you walk into a struggling team you have to address but here he found them good. Yes this worries me because we are far behind the likes of them and City in both intensity and fitness. I'm shocked you have a problem with this as you put down City's win to "they improved and we started looking leggy".

It's strange how you have used the fact that I would have preferred Pochettino and Arteta to Ancelotti as proof that I am misguided here. I really want Carlo to succeed and pointing out what I feel are valid points which I see as being mistakes of previous incumbents should threaten nobody. I have been much more complimentary than negative about Carlos impact but I will not like you bullshit people into thinking we are great when not.

Before the City game we were told "their back four and Bravo can be got at...can we exert enough pressure to exploit them...hopefully Carlo has a cunning plan". Then after as bad a half as we have had, can't string two passes together and fail to do what you hope prior to the game due to our negativity you denounce "that was a good half by us". Thankfully for us Carlo admitted in the presser how poor we were in that first half and doesn't share your analysis.

For a man who is so detailed in deciphering over every word could you please afford me the courtesy of doing the same with my name as I wouldn't expect a wordsmith like yourself to continually be so inaccurate.


Tony Hill
81 Posted 04/01/2020 at 18:52:05
I thought we did better in the 5-2 than that horrible scoreline suggested. They were flapping at the back on several occasions and DCL caused Virgil van Perfect some considerable problems, including the penalty that never was.

I agree with Rob that they'll put a decent side out, as they should do, and I believe we will beat them.

This won't be the reversal of the turn of fortune created in the 1971 semi-final (the moment when Satan began to support them), but it's going to be a step on the way to it. We will start to drive the Forces of Darkness back.

2-0 to us. And no, this is not tempting Fate; let's say it out loud and then make it come true.

Mike Kehoe
82 Posted 04/01/2020 at 18:52:41
Conor
I think you meant to say Carlo’s impact: in the spirit of accuracy.
Filipe Torres
83 Posted 04/01/2020 at 19:05:03
One of the things that made me an evertonian was the fact we never bend to the "kings of europe".
The first game I saw we show them our teeth and bite them.
Two times we went down, and two times we equalised.
That fa cup final will live with me forever.
I am an evertonian because we don't fear them, that's what I feel anyway, I suppose years of mediocrity have changed that...
3-1 to us.
Nsno
Paul Birmingham
84 Posted 04/01/2020 at 19:07:05
Tomorrow as with any game, every player, minimum must give 100% effort, for 98 minutes, play to the whistle, communicate like their lives depend on it, keep their shape and compete., and don’t be intimidated.

I’d like a Moise Kean to start and dish out a bit and make space for our flanks.

Hopefully the players will use all their rations of shooting power tomorrow, and the Anny Road, will do the rest.
These RS, punish teams for Amy mistake, but if you recall the recent Watford match, the RS, whilst winning 2-0, where flattered as Watford had x5 clear opportunities to score, and missed or messed the, all up.

The RS, can be beaten.

He’ll what a day tomorrow could be, with some proper effort and luck.

Peter Neilson
87 Posted 04/01/2020 at 19:21:47
Conor I wouldn’t be too worried about the press conference, they don’t win games, it’s just show business. Stopping their two full backs (if they play) will be the key as like most teams nowadays they appear to lack a midfielder who can unlock a defence. Whether stopping them means attacking them or defending them, over to Carlo who I reckon has forgotten more about the game than I know.
Eric Paul
88 Posted 04/01/2020 at 19:30:53
Fuck them I don’t care what they’re champions of, we should bully the fuckers and leave something on them in every tackle. Either win the game or hurt them trying.
Mike Gaynes
89 Posted 04/01/2020 at 19:31:18
It's the FA Cup. Anything can happen. Like Tranmere coming from 3-0 down in the final 25 minutes to tie Watford. Like United going a whole game without a shot on goal at Wolves. Like a 40-year-old sub earning Rochdale a draw with Newcastle (on an assist from a 16-year-old). Like Fulham scoring two worldies to beat Villa.

Do not write this game off. With an effort like the Derby a year ago, we can win this.

Darren Hind
90 Posted 04/01/2020 at 19:48:38
Get paid Eric
Paul Newton
91 Posted 04/01/2020 at 20:18:01
Not since Kendal or Royle have we gone into a derby with a manager who had a master plan to beat this lot. OK, Kendal had better players and Moyes had occasional victories over them - but not at their place. Have no fear - Carlo will have them sussed. It's just up to the players to deliver... oh dear...
Peter Thistle
92 Posted 04/01/2020 at 20:22:22
Sadly we don't stand a chance. That annoys me more than anything, the Fact that we will lose this game because they are on a different level, one we'll probably never reach.

I hate to be pessimistic about it but I write off every derby game as a certain loss, draw at best. I've ran out of patience with watching derbies, I simply can't watch us lose against them, again. Rips my heart out!

Joe McMahon
93 Posted 04/01/2020 at 20:23:44
Paul@91 I may be wrong but Moyes record of those occasional victories was 4 in 24. This includes an FA cup replay. Even Allardyce got a draw at Anfield with an awful team.

David Hayes
94 Posted 04/01/2020 at 20:25:32
John Moss, we are fucled.
Danny Baily
96 Posted 04/01/2020 at 20:36:48
They'll make a few changes so we've got a good chance tomorrow. We need to be clinical with the chances we get and we can finally get a win at their place.
Jamie Evans
97 Posted 04/01/2020 at 20:48:51
What Eric 88 said.
Mark Burton
98 Posted 04/01/2020 at 21:16:17
I agree with Eric Paul (88). The badge is where the heart is. COYB
Rob Halligan
99 Posted 04/01/2020 at 21:42:27
Anfield is a great stadium, with a great team and fans, having seen league titles!!
Tony Abrahams
100 Posted 04/01/2020 at 21:42:51
Scoring so late against Leicester was more about attitude Jay, so let’s just hope we’ve got the same attitude tomorrow then!
Rob Halligan
101 Posted 04/01/2020 at 21:48:42
Then the landlord decided to increase the rent, so that great team and fans moved out, taking the first league title ever won at anfield and moved to the grand old lady known as Goodison Park.

COYB FTRS!!

Stan Schofield
102 Posted 04/01/2020 at 22:05:20
Peter@92: We do stand a chance. As Ancelotti said recently, in football anything is possible.

Liverpool are a very well organised team that consists of many good players and several exceptional players, like most teams near the top of the Premier League. Similarly, we have many good players and several exceptional players, who shine when they are well organised as a team. That showed, for example, last season at Anfield, and it surprised an awful lot of people. That included the reds I know, who were unusually quiet after that game despite the daft mistake at the end.

So long as we're organised well, we have a good chance of winning. The difference between us and Liverpool is down to organisation. They are not at the level of Man City, they are simply well organised. The reason we've got Ancelotti is his ability, which is beyond that of the likes of Klopp, to organise.

Stay positive and focused.

Mark Andersson
103 Posted 04/01/2020 at 22:25:45
I liked the mini derby between Jay and Connor...

If the players play to Carlos plan then we have a chance...

Its all about bottle and that includes the fans...

Beat them and the next derby at the old lady will have it buzzing...

Keep the faith we can win this game...

Paul Birmingham
104 Posted 04/01/2020 at 22:36:17
Ditto Rob@101 and Stan@102.

Maximum effort and nous, we have a very good chance to beat Old Nick.

They are due to lose a big game soon, and I sense their supporters, know it’s due.

They’ve been too lucky, too long.

Jay Wood
[BRZ]

105 Posted 04/01/2020 at 23:04:08
Conor @ 79.

I find double irony in your posts in this thread. On the one hand you say his press conference 'worried you', but then @ 62 you acknowledge that 'news conferences generally mean nothing'. The latter is a sentiment I concur with. So why 'worry' about such an irrelevance?

The second irony is your pursuit in the belief that it carried less than positive connotations. I've pointed out a number of positive statements he made about his own team. But still, YOUR interpretation of it was that it was negative in its overall tone.

You now come back with another line from the presser about how he replied to the question, having played in and managed teams in many different very big derby games, what was his record.

Again, you put a negative slant on an honest, shrug of the shoulders reply. His actual response was 'I really don't know. I've won some, I've lost some. Which is normal.'

That's it.

I quoted almost verbatim what you describe as him 'speaking very highly of the opposition.' Again, you are being selective on what you chose to highlight and how you personally chose to interpret the words.

He was very honest and not in denial in describing them as they really are: an exceptional team in a long run of good form.

But interspersed with his acknowledgement of how good they are (and they are), he also spoke positively of his own team. Or were you deaf to the following?

'My focus is not the transfer market. I want to put all my energy into explaining to the players the game we want to play.'

'We need to play with confidence. Play our best and move forward in this competition. Everyone knows how important this competition is. But the last time I played in it, I won! It can be good luck for us! It's a really exciting game for us and we have confidence to do our best. You can only do that with focus and concentration, without fear.'

On the 'fear' of playing Liverpool with our poor recent history: 'The best way is to be focussed on what you are going to do on the pitch. And nothing else. Be focused on how to defend and how to attack.'

'To beat Liverpool you need a great performance. A normal performance is not enough. Everything has to be perfect. No mistakes. Work hard. Sacrifice. Intensity. To beat them the game has to be complete.'

'Everyone knows how Liverpool play. It's a fantastic team. Fantastic in counter attack. Fantastic in transition. Fantastic in recovering the ball and quick attack. As I said, you need to do a perfect game to beat them. Defend well. Avoid transition. Attack well because you cannot defend for 90 and we don't want to defend for 90 minutes. When we have the possibility we want to play our football.'

With regard to giving the team confidence:

'I am here for this. To improve the squad, the team, the club. This is my goal. This is everyone's goal and I think it will be good for our future.'

PLENTY of positivity to be heard, but only if you are receptive to it which you apparently are not.

To reply to further points in your latest post, the following is a classic example of someone taking something completely out of context and passing it off as fact, when it's YOU that's putting up nonsense:

'If your happy that we aren't going to defend for 90 minutes that's your prerogative.'

1) I didn't say that AT ALL!
2) Unless you are exceptionally stupid - and I don't think you are - you know full well that when Carlo said we CAN'T ONLY defend for 90 minutes, he is saying that we also have to attack. He is NOT saying as you attempt to imply in your sentence above that we are going to go all gung-ho and neglect defence all together at any time in the game.

Finally, dunno why you reference that you preferred Pochettino and Arteta to Ancelotti. That's done and dusted, surely? I haven't mentioned them AT ALL. Nor have I described you as 'misguided'. I simply put up my own interpretation of the presser to counter your own self-confessed more negative slant of the same.

It is allowed, Conor, as much as you seemingly resent it.

I genuinely have no idea what you are talking about when you haughtily claim that you 'will not like you [ie, me] bullshit people into thinking we are great when not.'

If you think selectively cutting and pasting from my posts from the City live match thread is evidence of me trying to 'bullshit others', then that's pretty limp-wristed of you Conor.

Why? Because you employ exactly the same tactic as you did with Carlo's latest presser. Isolating a few phrases. Take them out of context. Add a negative spin.

The full 11 minutes presser taken as a whole does not equate to submissive negativity as you are attempting to pass it off as, IMO.

Tom Bowers
106 Posted 04/01/2020 at 23:22:11
If they only put out half the team that lost to Villa in the Mickey Mouse cup and Everton play a full strength team then it will still be tough to win.

As many teams are treating the F.A. cup much the same as the other one there would be nothing to shout about except that this is still a derby game and a win is a win.

However, the next 5 Prem. games are winnable and I would love to have a team that has a better chance of beating RS in the next Prem. game if it is the only one they are to lose this season.

Lousy timing for Harry Kane to get injured just as Spurs are to play RS next week.

Karl Masters
107 Posted 04/01/2020 at 23:38:47
Jesus, what a lot of words being spouted... Put another way: Conor - stop worrying about a few words, could all be bluff anyway.

Let’s all, despite our previously battered confidence, remember it’s a simple game football played in the head as much as anywhere else, and concentrate on getting behind our Team and start believing we can win this match. Because we can, but it needs bravery and a positive attitude from every Evertonian!

Eric Myles
108 Posted 04/01/2020 at 23:58:39
Is VAR used in Cup games? We don't want to be playing against a ref AND VAR.
Anthony Murphy
109 Posted 05/01/2020 at 00:46:38
Eric, yes at Premier League grounds it is.

We won’t get beat tomorrow

Bob Parrington
110 Posted 05/01/2020 at 00:46:45
Jay@72 = Carlo is extremely professional. No need to talk about transfers right now, let's just give ourselves the maximum chance tomorrow by being mentally focussed.
Nicholas Ryan
111 Posted 05/01/2020 at 00:49:29
1. We will win 2-1

2. Can we all, please, make a New year's resolution, to do away with the relentless, mind-numbing negativity, that pervades these pages, and makes them [sometimes] such a chore to read. Occasionally it will be justified; but not all-day, every day!

3. Paul [63] … how can you be having banter with the Kopites, when you don't speak Norwegian?!

Chris Hockenhull
112 Posted 05/01/2020 at 01:14:12
Jay Wood 105. Absolutely spot on. There’s been endless comments over Everton’s frail approach to playing the RS and the defeatist mentality etc. Yet we have someone now who has been here mearly 5 mins who’s trying to start addressing the negativity that has held us back for so long so ffs let’s start showing it on these pages ffs. COYB
Bob Parrington
115 Posted 05/01/2020 at 03:39:39
Agreed Chris@112, Jay@105 was spot on! Negativity never wins anything.
Bill Gienapp
117 Posted 05/01/2020 at 07:23:19
Let's be honest - we know damn well that Klopp doesn't want Ancelotti to get the better of him again... especially when he's now the manager of the RS's arch rivals, of all clubs. Of course he could send out a weakened side and have a built-in excuse, but a win in Ancelotti's first Derby would set a dangerous precedent (and we should all be rubbing our hands at the thought). It'll be very interesting to see how this match unfolds.
Darren Hind
118 Posted 05/01/2020 at 07:44:43
I tell you what; This thread is really quite revealing.

I always knew we had a few gullible fan boys within our ranks. They flag themselves up often enough when offering up the contradicting stats they pick up from daft arsed websites as irrefutable proof, but dear me. This is just unadulterated born-yesterday naivety.

For the benefit of the starry eyed, lets just clear one thing up. Ancelotti has done Thousands of Pre-match interviews. He knows how to fob Journos off. He knows how to throw the dog a bone.

Ancelotti doesnt even know what sort of opposition he will face today, He may well face their best eleven, but he also knows'he could be facing a bunch of fringe players and kids - Like Villa did in the mid week cup. So he will give the standard answer and talk up the opposition. They all do that and do for a reason.. And does anybody actually believe that a man as experienced as he is, believes their is such a thing as the "perfect game" ?.. Another bone he is throwing to keep the dogs happy.

I believe those hanging on to his every word will be in the minority. The exception rather than the rule. The answers he gave were pretty much what you would expect. He more than anyone will know that no game was ever won at the press conference. He knows he will ultimately be judged on what he does, rather than what he says.

I don't care what Carlo Ancelotti says. I don't care if he says nothing. I wouldnt care if he Mimed the fucking team talk. This awful shaming record we have at Mordor has been an agony in the hearts of every Evertonian for too long. I just pray he will end it today

Kenn Crawford
119 Posted 05/01/2020 at 07:46:14
We can do this we are better than anyone thinks we are
NSNO WE ARE EVERTON
Paul Tran
120 Posted 05/01/2020 at 07:55:19
First to every ball. First to every second ball. Pester them to distraction. Pass and move with purpose. Break like Usain Bolt And when you get a chance, go for it and bury it.

That's what today's about. Nine out of ten times, they'll beat us. Let's make today the one time. You'll hear me from up here when we do!

Jimmy Hogan
121 Posted 05/01/2020 at 08:40:13
Do we have any fast defenders? We're going to need them...
David Greenwood
122 Posted 05/01/2020 at 08:54:14
Anyone thinking Carlo is telling the players they need to be perfect is off their heads.

All he's doing is playing the press conference game and there is no point in hanging onto his every word.

I think we will win but with James Milners old school teacher in charge this will be tough. We need to overcome them and him to win today, no question.

Klopp will go all out for this, it wont be kids, it will be as close as he can to his best eleven.

The good guys will win. 2-1. DCL and Kean.

Have a great day. COYB


David Greenwood
123 Posted 05/01/2020 at 08:54:14
Anyone thinking Carlo is telling the players they need to be perfect is off their heads.

All he's doing is playing the press conference game and there is no point in hanging onto his every word.

I think we will win but with James Milners old school teacher in charge this will be tough. We need to overcome them and him to win today, no question.

Klopp will go all out for this, it wont be kids, it will be as close as he can to his best eleven.

The good guys will win. 2-1. DCL and Kean.

Have a great day. COYB


Ciarán McGlone
124 Posted 05/01/2020 at 08:59:43
Perfect response to the bunfight over a press conference Mr Hind.

I haven't looked forward to a derby as much as this in a very very long time.

Mark Brennnan
125 Posted 05/01/2020 at 10:09:07
I'm off to sit in a cave somewhere until Monday night
Pat Kelly
126 Posted 05/01/2020 at 10:26:15
Another opportunity for Ancelotti to do a bit of stocktaking before the clearance sale.
Jonathan Tasker
127 Posted 05/01/2020 at 10:47:10
Lfc will perhaps only play three genuine first teamers.

Yet even a team picked from their squad of 25 is likely to be stronger than our team.

On top of that we have to beat the media, the rabid crowd, the ref and var.
It will take a major effort to triumph today.
The bookies have lfc as 23/20 favourites

Dale Rose
128 Posted 05/01/2020 at 10:58:56
There are rumours about Klopp going at the end of the season. With this in mind I can see him sending out a third team string today.

I think he is a very arrogant man and does not care about the prestige attached to the Cup.

We are good enough to beat them on the day whoever they field.

Tony Abrahams
129 Posted 05/01/2020 at 11:02:06
I’ve woke up okay, then I thought about the game today and put it to the back of my mind, “AS-IF”.

I have a bad feeling, especially after seeing reports of record losses, even though these losses won’t be on the pitch today. (Some of them will be, I know!)

This just isn’t like me because I’ve never been scared of Liverpool, Infact the only thing that does scare me about Liverpool, is that I might die before beating them in a really massive game.

I want to see those reds suffer, like I’ve suffered myself, and this is where the fear comes in, because if they beat us with a weakened team, then the stick will be absolutely unmerciful, but that doesn’t bother me by itself, because my skin is thicker than a rhino’s, when it comes to Liverpudlians.

I want us to win, but I also want us to hit the bottom of that fucking well, and start becoming the club we used to be again. Playing to win, and not just to exist, my biggest prayer is that we hit the bottom of the well the last time we played at Anfield, and we can beat these sacrilegious bastards today. “Come on you fucking blue boys!”

Derek Knox
130 Posted 05/01/2020 at 11:04:42
Mark @ 12, won't work mate you'll still get The Echo in there! 😋
Tony Twist
131 Posted 05/01/2020 at 11:33:55
We just need to concentrate on us and playing our best, RS generally play the same way. We need to allow them no time on the ball, we need a threat and take our chances. My team would be;
Pickford (unfortunately, there are better keepers out there),
Coleman, Keane, Mina, Digne,
Sidibe, Holgate, Davies, Richarlison,
Kean, DCL.

I think Schneiderlin and especially Siggy shouldn't be anywhere near the first team, no passengers please.
Drew O'Neall
132 Posted 05/01/2020 at 11:39:23
The instructions should be to take out as many of their first XI as possible and see where we are at half time.
Allan Board
133 Posted 05/01/2020 at 11:57:39
A big ask, but we do have a shrewd coach in our dug out nowadays, he knows how to beat these but can this set of player's deliver his plan?
Let's see, I hope the awful record is broken today, seems a bit like a spell over us for so long now.
I look forward to 15 more points on the board over the next 6-8 weeks as the reality is that is the more pressing matter.
For what it's worth, Everton are far too timid against this lot and need to mix it with them physically for the next 6 or so fixtures against them-if nothing else they won't look forward to playing Everton then.
Half the battle I think.
Good luck to all and everything Everton today!
Tom Bowers
134 Posted 05/01/2020 at 12:13:45
We're not expected to win but just sometimes the unexpected happens !!

RS want the title badly and they will rest a few players but we will need a high tempo performance and maybe some decent refereeing decisions although I doubt that will happen.

Mike Keating
135 Posted 05/01/2020 at 12:25:43
What are the odds on Mina to score da Winna?
(95th minute from a corner that everyone could see was a goal kick!).
Conor McCourt
136 Posted 05/01/2020 at 12:29:06
Jay 105- There is no irony at all. As at 46 I said "more worryingly was the remarks about the fitness of the team" and because Lyndon didn't include this point this was the main reason for my post. Of course this worries me because it is an insight into where Carlo feels the problems lie going forward. I didn't come away filled with confidence after the press conference which are supposed to be messages for the fans and made the point but I also know that a totally different message can be given to the players behind close doors.

In terms of me apparently selecting bits from your match thread I was just honing in on your hypocrisy. In your post at 72 the point I took exception to was the "says more about you and the ambiguity you express towards Carlo's appointment" so obviously you haven't put that to bed.

The vast majority of my posts towards Carlo have been positive and supportive in nature but like most fans I will question things I don't like. You linked this critical post to my impartiality. I brought up the City game as you being in favour of Carlo's appointment have continually been gushing over his every move and it seems all objectivity has gone out the window.

As pointed out the result against City was as expected and six points from three games is an excellent return and probably more than we hoped for. I could have taken anyone of your posts from City to highlight your blinkers. You praised Carlo for his handling of the squad over Xmas, over how he set up against City, praised him for how we didn't meekly surrender, praised him for positive subs and so on. Every post marvels at the manager and his decisions on a night where arguably he got his tactics wrong, where we didn't attack weaknesses as previous victors did (Mendy, Fernandinho's pace, Bravo) and where he adopted the better approach of causing an upset when the game was over.

Carlo Ancelotti is certainly walking the walk, I'm not sure he needs Jay Woods to talk the talk.

Sorry to all for ruining this thread on a day we should be positive.

Darren Hind
137 Posted 05/01/2020 at 13:10:00
You havent ruined anyone's day Conor.

Its around about now when we all start climbing onto the same boat

Tony Hill
138 Posted 05/01/2020 at 13:32:10
According to latest reports, Klopp is going to pick a real second string.
Kevin Naylor
139 Posted 05/01/2020 at 13:52:21
Lpool 2/1 on Betfair with Everton 6/4, unbelievable Jeff.
Ray Roche
140 Posted 05/01/2020 at 14:06:00
What Darren says at 118.

Pre and Post Press Conferences are just a manager or player fulfilling the contractual obligations to Sky, BT etc. How often do we hear Goodison, Molyneaux, Hope St etc is a “Tough place to come “ after they’ve just eviscerated the home team? Carlo will say one thing to the bellends from the Sun (spit) and something entirely different to the players. Take no notice.

Mike Powell
141 Posted 05/01/2020 at 14:10:08
I don't care if they play there woman's team, just beat the horrible scummy rats
Paul Tran
142 Posted 05/01/2020 at 14:17:35
Lpool 9/5 on Skybet. That might look huge odds at 6pm.

Just get into them, whatever team they put out. And go there with a bit of conviction for a change.

Christy Ring
143 Posted 05/01/2020 at 14:28:15
Tony @131 I agree with your pick, no frills in midfield, good width and pace upfront, if Kean isn't working, push up Richarlison, and Bernard on the left. We have to be in their faces today, and take that smug false grin off Klopp's face, when have you ever seen a German wth a genuine smile.
Kim Vivian
144 Posted 05/01/2020 at 15:06:31
Not the team I would have liked to see. Walcott, Siggy and Schneid all start No Kean.
Rob Young
145 Posted 05/01/2020 at 15:08:02
They play their kids, now let's get that first win in 20 years!!!
Craig Walker
146 Posted 05/01/2020 at 15:08:34
Klopp makes 9 changes. Origi plays though. Disappointed that Walcott plays.
Mark Tanton
147 Posted 05/01/2020 at 15:08:57
Jesus how little do they worry about us?!
Bill Gall
148 Posted 05/01/2020 at 15:09:06
It makes no difference what kind of team they put out, I want Everton to win every game regardless of the opposition.
If Klippity Klopp puts out the under 18s we want to thrash them and it is up to the F.A.to decide if L/ool are making a mockery of the competition.
Chris Gould
149 Posted 05/01/2020 at 15:09:18
They're playing a very weakened team. If we win, we'll get no credit and they'll have a ready made excuse.
If we lose...glad I don't live in Liverpool.
Stephen Beattie
150 Posted 05/01/2020 at 15:09:44
Bye bye Tosun.
Andrew Ellams
151 Posted 05/01/2020 at 15:09:58
So Klippity has taken away our excuses for this one.
Steavey Buckley
152 Posted 05/01/2020 at 15:11:53

Everton
1Pickford
23Coleman
13Mina
2Holgate
12Digne
19Sidibé
10G Sigurdsson
18Schneiderlin
11Walcott
9Calvert-Lewin
7Richarlison
Substitutes
3Baines
5Keane
8Delph
20Bernard
22Stekelenburg
26Davies
27Kean

Liverpool
13Adrián
76Williams
12Gomez
47Phillips
7Milner
20Lallana
68Chirivella
67Elliott
18Minamino
48Jones
27Origi
Substitutes
10Mané
14Henderson
15Oxlade-Chamberlain
24Brewster
51Hoever
62Kelleher
65Larouci
Referee:
Jonathan Moss

Pat Kelly
153 Posted 05/01/2020 at 15:11:54
They're playing a very weakened team, Everton.
Paul A Smith
154 Posted 05/01/2020 at 15:12:53
They have still put a team out they expect to beat us. We can't take it lightly and can't be shamed by reserves.
Rob Young
155 Posted 05/01/2020 at 15:13:43
Sure we don't fear their kids?
Win, job done, win the cup and we'll play their kids again at Wembley in the Charity Shield.
Charles McCann
156 Posted 05/01/2020 at 15:15:00
Our midfield is horrible. Sneiderlinn and Sigurdsson are far too slow. Walcott is clueless and sidibe is very average. What have we done to deserve this?
Jer Kiernan
157 Posted 05/01/2020 at 15:16:27
I just hope we have enough about us to take advantage, Will be nice if we crush them but equally hard to take should we lose it

Lads stop bickering over Carlo statements in press conferences he is a well seasoned professional who will the give the press exactly what they deserve - Nothing, He will talk while saying nothing ala (insert policticians name here ) COYB

Is a big guage this of the "actual" gap between the clubs we all know it exists, Question is how big it is

COYB

Christy Ring
158 Posted 05/01/2020 at 15:17:23
I don't care about their weakened team, that's Klopp's decision, he rested players, they're not injured, as far as I can see it's contempt, making little of us, we have to beat them, the more the better.
Paul A Smith
159 Posted 05/01/2020 at 15:19:36
Lets see how the line up handles it before we go into it full of negativity.

Wigan have won the cup in recent years so that says it all for both teams chances today. Its a cup tie, anyone can have a one off performance and anyone can score in a derby.

If we are switched on we should have enough to see a win.

David Donnellan
160 Posted 05/01/2020 at 15:20:26
If we put a team of kids & reserves out to face them & we got a beating, you can bet there fans wouldn’t care about that & would just gloat about smashing us. I will be no different if we manage to get the right result!
Ian Edwards
162 Posted 05/01/2020 at 15:23:06
That midfield worries me. Walcott, Schneiderlin, Sigurdsson and Sidibe. All of them are rubbish. Liverpool's midfield is more than capable of dominating that lot.
Dave Abrahams
163 Posted 05/01/2020 at 15:24:09
Klopp has rested his team to help Liverpool, all of his first team players will get a well earned rest, and so help to keep a tight hold on the big points lead they have.

We just have to win this game and carry on winning to the final at Wembley.

Anthony Murphy
164 Posted 05/01/2020 at 15:24:35
Won’t get a better chance to end our horrible run at Anfield.
Karl Jones
165 Posted 05/01/2020 at 15:26:18
Liverpool could put a team of tea ladies out and theyd beat Everton. We are already defeated psychologically I'm afraid.
Clive Rogers
166 Posted 05/01/2020 at 15:27:07
Shneids and Siggy together is a concern. Sicknote Delph missing again.
Ian Edwards
167 Posted 05/01/2020 at 15:27:36
That midfield badly lacks pace particularly away from home. I really really fear for us.
Steve Shave
168 Posted 05/01/2020 at 15:28:33
Fuck them, we can do this! No respect to Everton with that line up (or complete disregard for the FA Cup this year!) if we can't take them now with our strong (ish) line up and some Carlo/Dunc momentum then we never will. Draw your swords boys and fucking charge COYB!!!!!
Paul A Smith
169 Posted 05/01/2020 at 15:28:37
Delph would get injured putting a bandage on.
Darren Hind
170 Posted 05/01/2020 at 15:28:37
Is right David.

Two of our most expensive signings have been ruled out for the season. We have been ravaged by injury, That didnt stop them rubbing it in when they beat us a few weeks back. They did not give a shite.

I don't care who plays for them. We have a miserable run of results at Mordor to end.

Conor McCourt
171 Posted 05/01/2020 at 15:29:35
I agree with Christy that this line up shows his arrogance and contempt for us and his focus is on humiliation rather than resting players. There are subs like Shaqiri and the Ox who could have started but he wants to embarrass us. He did the same in the league and played more of his stars against inferior opponents.

If we get in front I hope we go for the kill and have the media darlings holding him to account.

Gavin Johnson
172 Posted 05/01/2020 at 15:30:33
I've not heard of a few of the RS line up. Logically we should win, but logic doesn't come into it when we play there.
Paul Tran
173 Posted 05/01/2020 at 15:31:04
Just. Bloody. Win.
Paul A Smith
174 Posted 05/01/2020 at 15:31:12
Conor lets be honest he thinks we are shit and this side hes put out will beat us.

Its all down to us to stop it.

Christy Ring
175 Posted 05/01/2020 at 15:34:42
Karl@165 Can't believe your post.
Neal Kernohan
176 Posted 05/01/2020 at 15:35:10
Live forum?
Tom Bowers
177 Posted 05/01/2020 at 15:35:33
Well, is the FA cup also becoming a joke ? RS showing disrespect for Everton by putting out this lineup and sickening as the thought may be they could just win.
Walcott and Schneiderlin back in gives RS an edge.

It's still a derby match but RS have nothing to lose.

Christopher Timmins
178 Posted 05/01/2020 at 15:36:49
We have to put them away today, it will be a huge lift even allowing for their weakened team. Then we can concentrate on moving up the table, a cause which would be helped by a good cup run.

The results over Christmas show that 40 points may well be needed this year in order to survive. The sooner we can pass that total the sooner Carlo and Brands can put the plans in place for another hectic summer.

Alan J Thompson
179 Posted 05/01/2020 at 15:38:25
The moment I see Schneiderlin's name in the starting eleven I wince. What does he do at training that is not seen in a competitive match?
Duncan McDine
180 Posted 05/01/2020 at 15:38:27
Didn’t feel the need for a live forum today? Come on Blue boys let’s have those orrid feckers today
Neal Kernohan
181 Posted 05/01/2020 at 15:40:10
Duncan, we need the forum to celebrate all our goals and the win together!!!!!!!!!
Tom Roberts
182 Posted 05/01/2020 at 15:42:06
We just HAVE to beat these today. I cannot imagine the abuse our fans will get if their reserve team puts us to the sword. We have a much stronger line up on paper so this is all about the mental side of the game. We have to get this particular monkey off our back and will never have a better chance. Don't care about disrespecting us or the FA cup whatsoever just WIN. The history books will say that EFC won at Anfield not that Klopp played his youth team. COYB!!!
Ben Howard
183 Posted 05/01/2020 at 15:42:33
Is there a live forum and any links to the game?
Andrew Laird
184 Posted 05/01/2020 at 15:43:04
Schneiderlin is probably our best, fit, central midfielder. No surprise he starts really is it? Delph is made of paper and got wet last time out.
Neal Kernohan
185 Posted 05/01/2020 at 15:43:32
Ben the match is on BBC 1
Kevin Molloy
186 Posted 05/01/2020 at 15:44:29
Klopp I think has misjudged this. He didn't need to play quite such a weakened team, clearly this is a game he doesn't want, I reckon he didn't want to play a semi good team that might have got beat. He has his excuse ready made now if we win. The Carlo effect.
Andrew Laird
187 Posted 05/01/2020 at 15:45:13
Please just beat these badge buying, flag-waving, red bell whiffs!!! (Or draw, which might just annoy Klopp even more)
Jack Convery
188 Posted 05/01/2020 at 15:47:32
No Live Forum ??
Joseph Elworthy
189 Posted 05/01/2020 at 15:48:31
Any links lads for the Vancouver Blues?
Ben Howard
190 Posted 05/01/2020 at 15:50:15
Thanks Neal, I hadn't realised that! COYB!
Jack Convery
191 Posted 05/01/2020 at 15:53:34
A lot of this team our now playing for their futures at EFC. Lose this and I can see Siggy, Schneids, Walcott not playing for us again bar injuries. Please EFC don't cock this up - PLEASE.
Neal Kernohan
192 Posted 05/01/2020 at 15:54:24
https://www.ToffeeWeb.com/comment/live/
Jer Kiernan
194 Posted 05/01/2020 at 15:59:43
Its about ignoring their selection and focus on getting the job done COYB
Annika Herbert
195 Posted 05/01/2020 at 16:00:33
We are sadly short of pace in that central midfield area. Lets hope Siggy finally finds some form. Still, lets get out there and destroy them!
Don Alexander
196 Posted 05/01/2020 at 16:00:44
To me the Klopp team means our players have absolutely no hiding place unless they at least run them ragged and get three of their better players on the pitch. Regardless of the result a failure to do even that will convince CA, if he doesn't already know it, that he needs a hypnotist at FF more than anything else, or a majorly expensive cull of course.
Colin Glassar
197 Posted 05/01/2020 at 18:11:09
I stand by my team choice at post #1. Niasse and Tosun would’ve at least had a go.
Bill Fairfield
198 Posted 05/01/2020 at 18:32:10
Once again can’t wait for the season to end hard to get up for any game now to support this shower of utter gobshites
Alex Lee
199 Posted 05/01/2020 at 19:54:32
Never felt so Ashamed or disgusted as I do after watching that pathetic performance.

Some of them cowards should never ever be allowed to wear the shirt again - but they will.
The only good thing to come out of today is hopefully MA realises how bad we actually are.

Chins up blues !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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