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1 Posted 28/01/2020 at 22:02:20
a) Find buyers for unwanted players, who are on high wages, selling at their remaining amortisation value or higher (to not impact the accounts negatively);
b) Develop youth to fill gaps in the squad, with the longer-term aim of selling to ease the stress on the accounts (or better yet, find a couple of Rooneys);
c) Potentially sell one of our ‘better' players way above their remaining amortisation value, so profits can be reinvested;
d) Scout and buy up and coming talent to develop and increase in value.
Alas, as always, we missed the boat when Moshiri came in and we wasted huge money on crap like Bolasie, Schneiderlin, Walcott, Tosun, Sigurdsson etc...
Who the fuck advised the inexperienced Moshiri? Was it our greatest fan, ever? Was it a bunch of self-serving turds? I guess it doesn't matter now! We must learn. We must trust that Brands – and now, Ancelotti – have a plan to rectify the direction of the club's recruitment policies...
2 Posted 28/01/2020 at 22:07:23
How on earth did the early millions get wasted at what was a critical window of opportunity and now leaves us navigating the rocks and whirlpools?
Was it other people currently still serving the club in any capacity? If so, they should be named, shamed, and shown the door.
3 Posted 28/01/2020 at 22:10:42
4 Posted 28/01/2020 at 22:21:16
I'm guessing Richarlison is one of those, Dave.
5 Posted 28/01/2020 at 22:43:14
Dave / Brian, it'd better not be Richarlison.
I would be very surprised if we sold Schneiderlin and Sigurdsson! Does that count?
Also, wouldn't selling the cheap players like Calvert-Lewin, Holgate or Davies make the most profit for the balance sheet and so give us more room on FFP?
And I hope we retain all three of them.
6 Posted 29/01/2020 at 00:08:55
7 Posted 29/01/2020 at 00:35:19
8 Posted 29/01/2020 at 01:08:13
Obviously profit would be higher on selling say Holgate, but what about wages? Calvert-Lewin, Holgate etc earn a lot less than most. If we sold them, we'd struggle to find anyone as good or better for a lesser wage.
9 Posted 29/01/2020 at 03:02:00
I believe the biggest problem we have is that the book value of our players is some considerable distance away from reality. I think many of our fans have an unrealistic idea of what our players could fetch.
Pickford: For me, bucks the trend. Although many an Evertonian would like to see the back of him, he is England's goalkeeper and that fact alone will inflate his true value – we'd make a profit.
Coleman: he wouldn't fetch anything. He's been a fantastic servant and we are not entitled to expect a profit. I thought Jonjoe Kenny had already gone past him this season, and it was a mistake to let him go to Germany.
Keane and Mina: they have been exposed, and I mean proper exposed. Every time Everton are mentioned, our inability to defend simple balls into the box is highlighted. That would scare most potential suitors off. I don't believe for one minute we'd get any club to pay £30M for either one of them. We'd have to take a hit.
Digne: we would have made a tidy profit if we had sold him last season when his free-kicks and excellent crossing were being highlighted; however, his defensive frailties have been laid bare this season. He's been abject. Unless he can rediscover his attacking prowess... maybe a small profit.
Sigurdsson and Schneiderlin: they wouldn't fetch a third of what we paid for
them – both losses.
Gbamin and Gomes: they have been unlucky and, in their particular cases, so has Brands. However, both have suffered the sort of injury which would force people to monitor their recovery before being remotely interested. Let's not forget, we didn't have to fight off fierce opposition for their signatures when they were fit. As it stands, Loss.
Bernard: future deadwood. Not quite consistent enough to make a huge difference, he earns big due to the fact that we got him for nothing. Attracting a buyer for him would be no problem... but getting him to move on would be. Nobody would pay him the wages he gets now; no profit.
Walcott and Iwobi: Arsenal have had us off big time... finding somebody mug enough to pay what we paid would be impossible - another loss.
Richarlison: if the clubs at the very top wanted him, we'd have heard about it by now. We can all see he has great talent and huge potential... but, as of yet, he doesn't rate with so many top players in terms of goals, creativity, or street smarts. We'd have no problem selling him, but we won't get the sort of money you see being paid to top drawer world superstars – some profit.
Keane: nobody would pay anywhere near as much as we paid for him. Best keep him here, work on his development, and hope he can justify the price we paid.
Worrying. as you say, Paul. Not much wriggle room. Ancelotti is going to have to do it with the tools he has inherited.
Whilst I agree with your point about the importance of having a Director of Football present at board meetings, I'm not sure we have the right man in Brands. Hopefully he will prove me wrong.
10 Posted 29/01/2020 at 07:27:04
I wonder how restricted he has been to date by the changes in management, the board itself, and the involvement of Moshiri in some transfers?
11 Posted 29/01/2020 at 07:55:11
DCL, Davies, Holgate, and Jonjoe Kenny, are players I would be trying to incorporate into the team going forward. 4 English kids, 2 of them scousers, and although people might think that these lads are not good enough, Id like to see them play alongside better footballers, before such a decision was made.
Holgate, still lacks concentration at times, Davies, is possibly having his worst spell at the club, Kenny, must be made-up to be away from the mad-house, and DCL, is improving rapidly, although he still has a fair-way to go.
Put good players with heart, next to these kids, who all possess this vital ingredient, and Im sure they will help push Everton on, because the only “real leaders” I see at Everton, are actually in this group. (Richarlison aside possibly?)
12 Posted 29/01/2020 at 08:01:53
13 Posted 29/01/2020 at 08:30:44
Four top class players would have sorted the spine of the team and we should also have told Lukaku he was staying put for one final season until we bought a suitable replacement for him.
We bought players for too much money that were questionable even at the time.
Why sign Klaassen £24 million, Michael Keane £22 million, Schneiderlin at £24 million was never needed when we already had Gana Gueye.
£27 million on Tosun mental, a player not suited to our play.
Last summer we paid a ridiculous amount for Iwobi after the failure to bring in Zaha.
The money we have had to spend since 2016 and we are still sitting here now in 12th place, havent had a meaningful Cup run.
We should have been where the likes of Leicester are now, a club upwardly moving in the right direction on a yearly basis.
This summer is a monumental one for this club under Ancelotti.
How can we really afford yet another campaign in the 2020-21 season to be written off by the first week in January again?
14 Posted 29/01/2020 at 08:53:08
I was annoyed in the past when we bought Neville, Barry and Gomes but they did ok. I dont blame the DOF, more the club for the lack of stability in changing meh managers for so-so managers who cant get the best out of what they have to work with. Hopefully Carlo will be the missing cog if we can persevere for longer than 2 seasons without winning the league or CL.
15 Posted 29/01/2020 at 09:39:07
As always a well researched and well written piece, but I fundamentally disagree with your preface that it is important the DOF should be on the board. So in that case we should have appointed Steve Walsh to the board, which may have signaled the death knell for this club had he continued in his post. As for the value that Brands has brought to the club, I am yet to be convinced. I assume he was the prime mover in the sale of Gueye to PSG selling your best and most important player was grossly negligible. I am not overly impressed with some of his purchases either.
Your main reason for arguing for the DOF to be part of the board, is it is vitally important with FFP that someone understands the implications. Well I think you may have forgotten that our owner is an accountant of a couple of multi billion pound companies. So he will understand the FFP rules far more than Brands.
I question the role of how we use a DOF, he should deal only with players surplus to requirements and moving them on. He should also work closely with the managers of all the teams below the first team, to make sure that we have a steady flow of quality youngsters. But in my opinion the identifying of new purchases should be solely left to the first team manager.
16 Posted 29/01/2020 at 10:08:42
17 Posted 29/01/2020 at 10:25:21
I think the lack of understanding of the role within the club is still a major issue both at board and owner levels. Ancelotti clearly understands the relationship and how it should work, but the rest I am not sure.
Whether Brands is the right person to fuse together our needs and Ancelotti's needs on the football front, work within our financial constraints, and also work with the peculiar corporate beast that is Everton with its factions and lack of structure I don't know.
I do know that to move forward the DoF model is the right way to build a consistent and identifiable footballing strategy across the club and ultimately to provide Ancelotti with what he requires to weave his own undoubted magic.
Brands is very highly thought of by many, time will tell if he's the right man for Everton, whether we hold our nerve with this model or allow Ancelotti or (ridiculously) Moshiri to operate in a less structured environment
18 Posted 29/01/2020 at 10:26:56
I dont think it was the individual signings that were the problem. It was the fact we signed Sigurdsson, Klassen and Rooney all to play the same position. I couldnt believe it when I first saw Sandro in an Everton shirt...he too seemed to fancy himself as a deep lying forward.
Of course all of this was compounded by the fact that the manager had no clue how to use one number 10, never mind a hat full.
19 Posted 29/01/2020 at 10:48:27
We are a business and we must spend the resources we have wisely in order that we do not get into a mess, like we are in now!
Spending £20-30m+ or more on older players with little or no re-sale value must not be done unless their significant impact on the team and its success is a sure fire thing or near enough. The transfers of Schneiderlin, Walcott, Sigurdsson, Bolasie etc have set us back considerably. People arguing we should spend £20m+ on Vecino don't seem to see this.
Spurs have really shown the way and in this window alone they have secured Fernandes and Bergwijn, two young players with big reputations who will be worth alot of money if they come good and probably still trade at a small loss even if they don't. This is the way we should be going.
I think Brands has been doing this for the most part and I disagree with some of Darren@9's evaluations. I believe the likes of Digne, Richarlison, Bernard would go for good profit and that the Mina and Gomes would still be worth near what we bought them for. Kean, Gbamin and Iwobi have not played enough but all are young and I think will prove good purchases in time.
I don't think Brands nailed the last window but certainly he has done a better job than Walsh. It will be interesting to see our next raft of signings this summer with the Ancelotti pull now in play and the stadium looking closer.
20 Posted 29/01/2020 at 10:55:43
it's like something from The Hangover, with Koeman and Walsh waking up amongst all the debris. Finding a signed contract for £45 million and asking what the hell happened here.
Agree about Klassen, thought we had a decent player on our hands. He's a regular starter for Werder Bremmen at present, did we sell him or is it a loan ?
21 Posted 29/01/2020 at 10:57:50
22 Posted 29/01/2020 at 11:03:47
23 Posted 29/01/2020 at 11:53:19
If you keep Brands off the board, then you are giving the final word on football matters to Kenwright, DBB, and Moshiris Russian (Sasha R). So would you really want Kenwright and his yes-lady running wild like they did under Walsh, or would you prefer Brands in the boardroom banging heads together?
And how do you know that the board didnt force Brands to sell Gueye? Youre making an assumption there.
24 Posted 29/01/2020 at 11:57:48
Hindsight is a wonderful thing. At the time Bolasie, Williams, Schneiderlin, Klassen, Tosun even Sigurdsson were all legitimate purchases. We can all come on here 3 season later and say gee what a waste of money.
At the time how many genuinely bulked at the prospect of those joining us?
The problem we had back then at the start of the Koeman regime was the calibre of player we wanted to attract just didn't want to join Everton FC. We ultimately went for mid level players hoping they would improve us and we tempted them to come with big wages.
Its okay saying build a spine with 4 genuine world class players but those players don't want to join EFC especially when we have nothing to offer but high wages and a fight for a top 6 spot.
The likes of kean, DCL, Davies and JJk are the players that will propel us up the league not a Robinho type who accidentally signs on the dotted line.
25 Posted 29/01/2020 at 12:29:42
Possibly a rush to judgement on him needs to take this into account. Hes already shifted out over 30 players permanently and there are over a dozen out on loan too. Thats before considering the merits of Schneiderlin, Sigurdsson, Walcott etc. None of these players is he responsible for, just their disposal.
Whether he is a Board Director or not does not make any difference to his status, as an employee, he can be fired either way if he doesnt perform. He doesnt ‘report to himself as has been said on here from time to time, he reports to the Board, as all of them do.
It does make a difference in how the Board is able to go about its business of running the club. As Steve pointed out its important to have someone there with Director status, who is not Kenwright or his mini me. Particularly with only four directors.
Hes working with at least one hand tied behind his back, and he is probably going to have to go into the loan market, unless he shifts some of the Dead wood out, or their contracts run out.
Hell probably have to sell some of our younger players and assets, like he did with Lookman, Vlasic and Onyekuru, all of whom we made a profit on.
26 Posted 29/01/2020 at 12:29:48
As now, our problems are more about the type of players we didn't buy - no striker, no dominant centre mid. You could make an argument that solving those two positions would have made a huge difference, as it would right now.
27 Posted 29/01/2020 at 12:33:33
Ffp as already mentioned above was brought in to prevent teams crashing the big boys party. We are nowhere near that level yet but have got ourselves into a right mess.
PSG and Man City have managed to escape sanction but continue to spend big money.
The dof could do worse than ask Carlo about his philosophy and try to put players in place.
7 hard workers with an average goalie and 3 quality players at the top end would be enough to complete for top 6.
Moshiri has been fooled into thinking that paying stupid money for players get rewards. All that he has achieved is filling a squad with mercenaries who don't care if we win or lose.
28 Posted 29/01/2020 at 13:12:34
What is the likelihood that we will see any new faces in before Friday's deadline lapses? Is it absolutely critical to sell before we can buy? Difficult to know who we could offload, especially those on lucrative contracts who won't get what we are paying them.
The jury is still out for me on whether I think Brands is doing a good job. Some of his buys are as bad as Walsh's.
It is a massive disappointment that we have wasted so much money on dross and are in this predicament despite having a billionaire owner and a world-class manager.
29 Posted 29/01/2020 at 13:46:35
Ancelotti and Brands have an opportunity here to slowly turn us around, or conversely, we wither a little further on the branch. Time will tell meanwhile the agony goes on.
30 Posted 29/01/2020 at 14:04:14
31 Posted 29/01/2020 at 14:26:56
Surely if Brands is the DOF to suggest he wasn't the main mover in selling Gueye is a big assumption by you. Brands has been very open that his idea is to buy younger players who will also have resale value, so selling 31 year old Gueye would fit his plan. You suggest a board member forced him to sell Gueye, well no point having a DOF who wont stand up for his opinions.
You give an assessment of the current book value of our present first team, so can I ask how come that both DCL and Davies are missing from your critique.
32 Posted 29/01/2020 at 14:40:13
Brands' plan is to buy young, yes. But this does not equate to keeping everyone young or having to sell someone because they are 30. If a board member sold Gueye, why does it mean that Brands didn't stand up for his opinion? Maybe he fought tooth and nail to keep him and was overruled? Is he then meant to resign over this hypothetical situation?
I think the reality is what always happens in football now. A year ago this month PSG came in for Gueye. Silva and Brands both spoke to him, and he expressed his desire to leave. Both agreed to sell him in the summer if the player gave his all for the rest of the season. Gueye's performances improved and he left as promised. And yes this is an assumption.
It is possible to do deals that do not come into effect until months down the line, so perhaps we rubberstamped a transfer a year ago (January 2019) and it came into effect in July when he then moved on.
The whole point of resale value is not to become a club that buys young and sells all the players for profit, that's the last thing we wish to do, it's about avoiding the situation we have now with Sigurdsson, Schneiderlin, Walcott, and Bolasie. All are over 30, all earn massive money (reportedly over £100k a week, except for Bolasie who earns £70k a week). No one would give us our money back for these guys, and no one wants to pay their overinflated wages.
Instead Brands wants to sign players like Moise Kean who is on £55k a week, so half what the others are on, and even when he hadn't scored for us, even when he was judged a failure, there was a line of clubs wanting to take him back to Italy, who would pay his wages and give us our money back, because he was still very young and there was still plenty of time to get him playing well. This is the difference.
33 Posted 29/01/2020 at 15:22:49
Wasnt Gueye sold because it was a good fee, much higher than his current ‘book value and because of his age?
Brands alluded to this in his presentation at the AGM I think.
But possibly not unconnected to the FFP issues.It may be a scenario that we will see repeated, and maybe this is now considered to be part of his brief?
He also said we cant afford £60m players.
If it is, it might be evidence of an understanding finally that the Board and specifically Moshiri understand the situation we find ourselves in, and hopefully no more vanity pursuits of the likes of Zaha.
Scant comfort though.
34 Posted 29/01/2020 at 17:04:44
£85m bid for Richarlison rejected
35 Posted 29/01/2020 at 17:04:52
None of the above named players had made a convincing case for their purchase before we signed them. The clubs ambition to make its mark in the transfer market in the summer of 2017 was matched by an impatience to deliver instant success. Patience is what is now required along with steady team building over a period of two to three years.
Brands is ideally placed to support the creation of a proper team comprised of young players with the talent and hunger to improve with Ancelotti driving things on the pitch. It remains to be seen if they can succeed.
36 Posted 29/01/2020 at 17:05:05
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39 Posted 29/01/2020 at 17:18:34
40 Posted 29/01/2020 at 17:20:30
41 Posted 29/01/2020 at 17:29:35
In any case, Im not a fan of this Director of Football model. It has been an unmitigated disaster for Everton. Some of our better performers this season (Holgate and DCL) were signed with no involvement from Walsh and Brands. Compare that to some of the players we have signed under Walsh and Brands for big transfer fees and big salaries. We will struggle to give some of these players away now, never mind sell them! And they were bought under the watch of supposed football ‘experts.
Brands record is patchy at best. For every good player we have sold well (e.g. Lookman), we have sold others cheap (e.g. McCarthy). We still havent replaced Lukaku. And we have bought all of our players from top clubs like Barcelona, Juventus etc. We havent unearthed any gems, weve more often than not paid over the odds for established players. There are big question marks over the character of the players that we have recruited in the last few years also.
The jury is out on Brands at best.
42 Posted 29/01/2020 at 17:34:13
Everton should take it as the lad will now have his head turned, who wouldn't want to go to Barca from a club like Everton.
Cannot see this lad being 100% in his concentration if he stays.
Everton have rejected this offer but that may not be the end of it.
43 Posted 29/01/2020 at 17:35:59
44 Posted 29/01/2020 at 17:38:10
45 Posted 29/01/2020 at 17:42:43
Same when it sold Lukaku, what use is the money when its spent of shite?
Richarlison is a frustrating players but hes also the only real potential game changer that we have in the squad.
£85 million wont score you 13-14 goals, that just sits in the bank until it gets wasted on more defensive minded midfielders.
I expect the transfer request to arrive tomorrow morning, the question is, are Everton going to act big.
46 Posted 29/01/2020 at 17:50:31
47 Posted 29/01/2020 at 17:50:51
48 Posted 29/01/2020 at 17:51:36
49 Posted 29/01/2020 at 17:52:37
His head wasnt turned then.
If we do sell him it will be for more than £100m and that will provide decent funds for Ancellotti to spend and represent good business as far as FFP is concerned.
As far as Evertons ambition is concerned (Jim Bennings), signing Carlo Ancellotti as our manager and building a £1bn stadium tells me everything I need to know about Evertons ambition.
You shouldnt be upset so easily.
50 Posted 29/01/2020 at 17:58:42
It's interesting that it's Barcelona, a club that Brands has good relations with. Maybe he's told them that Richarlison is available for the right price? More than likely this bid has come in now to set the sale up for the summer. That way it doesn't come as a shock to us, Richarlison has time to get his house in order, and Everton can say that they were big enough to reject Barcelona in January but couldn't hold him back from his dream move any longer. Just like they did with Gueye.
51 Posted 29/01/2020 at 18:00:03
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53 Posted 29/01/2020 at 18:01:36
54 Posted 29/01/2020 at 18:07:38
55 Posted 29/01/2020 at 18:14:51
56 Posted 29/01/2020 at 18:16:47
Well, four years ago Farhad Moshiri inherited such a team, already bolted onto some high-performing senior players in their prime.
Only, such is the nature of the fickle football fan, every single one of a genuine 'Fab Four' was constantly lambasted on TW and beyond for what they didn't do (even though their 'failings' were highly exaggerated by some).
John Stones, Ross Barkley, Gerard Deulofeu and Romelu Lakuka were exactly the right age, profile and potential of what, presumably, many would now like Marcel Brands to recruit for the exceedingly low fees we paid (or developed) for them.
They were EXACTLY the profile of player we should have worked hard to not only recruit, but to retain. Deulofeu is an exception in that Barcelona triggered the buy-back clause in his contract, but the other three, we allowed to leave. In the case of Ross Barkley the public humiliation and lack of support at Everton effectively drove him out of the club.
Within four months of taking over the club, Moshiri ditched Martinez and installed his man, Ronald Koeman. By the season's end we looked a solid outfit with plenty to build on.
Everton splashing the cash as they did that summer under Koeman and Walsh was heady stuff which Blues definitely enjoyed. But at the same time there was NOT universal approval of all of the signings and disquiet WAS expressed about the 'duplication' of similar type players for single positions whereas other areas were neglected.
That remains the critical transfer window which continues to hamstring us to this day. With the money Moshiri expended in fees and salaries, if there had been a more considered and structured transfer, recruitment AND retainment policy, we would be much further ahead in our development on the footballing side of things than we are.
He is a billionaire accountant. He must really rue signing off and backing the judgement of people who took a scattergun approach with his money.
We have wasted both time and money to basically stand still. Go backwards, even, as we are now saddled with considerable debt as well.
On footballing matters now, we have two highly-respected and wise old heads overseeing things. They need to be trusted to do what is best for the club.
IF there is no interference from the suits, Marcel and Carlo between them can still turn the tanker around. For Marcel, it's been as much about getting players off the books as recruiting them. He has done very well in that regard, middling on recruitment.
Personally, I had hoped to see more of what he became renowned for in Holland: recruiting raw unheard of talent from around the globe, watching them blossom and turning a very tidy profit on them.
Not one of his signings to date falls into that category.
57 Posted 29/01/2020 at 18:22:09
Incidentally, DCL, Holgate and Kenny are the players I wouldnt consider selling. They have a quality lacking in most of our other players: they hate losing
58 Posted 29/01/2020 at 18:34:30
Written about 12 hours too early, that post.
59 Posted 29/01/2020 at 18:40:16
So, if we sell Richarlison and we reinvest, we have to reinvest in a system. This is basically all that Klopp has done, and got incredibly lucky with the actual signings (Salah, for instance). And we stick to that system and put the square pegs in the square holes. That way they develop better, increase in value, the team moves up the league etc etc. Its not rocket science, but clearly it is to some although I actually think there are other agendas at work behind the scenes that hinder any progress we wish to make.
60 Posted 29/01/2020 at 19:43:34
I also agree that there could be influences inside the club that dont want their power and status quo to change. Cushy jobs for under-performers, but that is entirely supposition on my part, admittedly having no insider knowledge on the workings behind the scene
61 Posted 29/01/2020 at 19:48:56
62 Posted 29/01/2020 at 19:51:28
63 Posted 29/01/2020 at 21:17:30
Also, this may give legs to the Everton Soares (LS attacker) story. Sell Richi for £85m, buy Soares for £25m, and keep £60m in the bank to offset the £30m credit we are going to lose in the P&S count for Y3 where we had a £30 credit, rather than debits and losses.
Still leaves us with £30 to spend, and when the players who leave in the summer go, their wages gives us enough wriggle room, to bring in one or two more quality players. Plus, hopefully, we'll have Gomes and Gbamin back to, oh and Beni.
Slowly build the foundations now, for the future.
I wouldn't mind swapping Richi for Soares, and bank some cash for the future.
64 Posted 29/01/2020 at 22:01:31
Depressing looking at the league table when you consider we are 40pts behind first place ans still not far from the relegation places.
Every game will have to soon become a must win game.
65 Posted 30/01/2020 at 09:08:01
But if the Everton Board was of overall sufficient competence, it would not be necessary for the Director of Football to sit on the Board. In a well run Football Club with the correct reporting structures and governance the Director of Football would not sit on the Board.
The problem with Brands on the Board is that he appears to have the same authority as he had when he was not in the Board. Brands Is a Football professional not a Financial Professional. Is he now suddenly going to sprout wings ?
Basically Paul the Esk has been put in the situation of advocating the shoring up of the Board, like myself , by having the Director of Football on it. The right situation would be for incompetent Directors on the Board to take a walk and be replaced by competent ones, something that Paul The Esk I am sure would agree with.
The whole Everton AGM was a shoring up exercise and Professor Smith was technically right. Brands could be being used as a buffer to cover incompetence, something Moshiri did not appoint him to be. As yet Moshiri reasons for Brands appointment are unproven, as the debacle of the Summer Transfer window would suggest.
It's going to be hit or miss whether the whole thing is going to end up as the same Shambles after a New Dawn, as we all have been experiencing for years.
Moshiri has to tackle the Boardroom issue at some stage if Everton are to progress, before he runs out of money and Usmanov decides he has had enough.
66 Posted 30/01/2020 at 12:44:27
On a typical Board you Will have a Chairman, CEO or MD, Finance Director, Marketing Director, and some sort of Operations Director. This last one tends to change depending on the industry the company operates in.
So in Retailing this might be Buying/Supply Chain, or in Financial Services, Business Development or Sales.
In Football it might be Director of Football. How can it be wrong in a football club to have a Director of Football on the Board? In the case of Brands with his reputation and experience as a Football Professional, how can it be wrong?
The FD at Everton is the Russian isnt it?
The sheer fact that he is on the Board with an equal voice means that he has equal authority with the other Directors. This does not mean he has autonomy. No Director does, or should have. They are there to set strategy and run the business as a Board. Part of Brands job is to represent the views of Ancelotti for example.
All major decisions should be debated, and consensus reached. If in what should be a minority of cases this is not possible, a vote is taken, and as such a decision is minuted. If in the event of a tie, the Chairman has a casting vote to break the deadlock. On Evertons Board with three Directors and a Chairman, numerically this should not happen.
I stress this is what should happen, not what is currently happening.
But if there are Corporate governance or professionalism issues at Everton, and none of us really knows(and I share your opinion) it is certainly not because Brands is on the Board.
As it stands, there may well be legal reasons why incompetent Board members cant be removed.
67 Posted 30/01/2020 at 13:17:46
Yes you are right when everything is going well, but expecting Brands a Football man to turn around the financial factors that has contribute to record losses and get Everton back far enough from FFP thresholds is a tall order to expect. Paul Esk and myself are hoping rather than being convinced.
The Everton Board is a funny old Board, where a minority shareholder and Chairman is able run the Club as he has always done and appoint a Chief Executive. At the moment he has control of the Board legally with his casting vote. Though millions have been been wasted and with recent record losses, he is still in situ. The adm management of the Club is not producing and those involved in team are also not producing, but still there, unless Ancelotti can change things.
In the case of Brands there is no sign that his appointment to the Board has resulted in any progress on what has happened previously. The Summer Transfer Window was not all Brands. I actually believe Brands had to resort to sabotage to prevent it turning into a disaster. It was a debacle anyway, because Brands was distracted by the action of others.
Everton are in a worse position than five years ago.
I have never attended a Everton Board meeting, but after the reports on the AGM I know they must be a absolute hoot.
Just 're read your post , you obviously know something about Boards and how they act. I like you think there are legal reasons why things are as they are. In my opinion when Moshiri took over he had to accept A shareholders agreement with Kenwright. It could be that Moshiri was looking at the bigger picture , in that Everton would end up being worth a lot more in the future, but most Investors would have not touched Everton with a barge pole under Kenwrights conditions.
68 Posted 30/01/2020 at 14:01:32
As I said, that was how it should happen. It happened more or less that way on all the Boards I sat on. Not always to the letter. It is more important when things are not going well.
It is not Brands job to turn round the the financial problems, it is his job to work within them and improve them within his brief over time. A major job, which I believe he has started with the sales of Gueye, Onyekuru, Vlasic and Lookman. All of which will have been signed off by the Board, not at Brands whim. His hands are significantly tied by the fact that he cant shift the players that nobody wants. It possibly explains the uninspiring business in the last window and the lack so far this window. Watch out for more sales though.
We should be celebrating every sale as much as every signing, if we are to make progress, but it may not be the sales we want.
We will know just how good he is when this works its way through, but we should not rush to judgement.
The financial issues are also dependent on income from all sources, not just transfers, like sponsorships, corporate partnerships, commercial activities, all of which are nowhere near good enough. Tv income is what it is, and over time will probably diminish. So not all down to Brands? And maybe at least as big an issue?
The Chairmans casting vote only occurs in the event of a tied vote, unlikely on a Board with only three directors, unless one abstains. Otherwise it will always be 2 1 one way or another. So if he is intervening in the way you describe its certainly not legal. The fact that there are two directors who you might consider Moshiri appointments also maybe tells a story.
Votes are usually rarely necessary.
Moshiri certainly seems to involve himself, as with Zaha, last window. But we didnt sign him. Sabotage you may say? Thank Christ anyway.
I think that maybe the penny re FFP may have finally dropped maybe even with Bill. But it seems he now has an ‘enhanced position within the club, which if true shows what a smart political operator he is, and how dangerous, especially to Brands.
That is the major issue, not Brands status on the Board
69 Posted 30/01/2020 at 14:16:15
When a company is sold, an SPA is prepared. This is a legally binding document which covers all aspects of both the sale and purchase. It is typically huge and detailed and includes all the requirements and conditions of both parties.
It is possible that a condition was included covering Bill remaining as Chairman. This should have a time limit on it if any sense was applied. It would also cover the timing and transfer of Bills shares. Bill still retains about 5% from memory. The Purchaser would need to agree it. He may even have asked for it.
The timing may perhaps be tied in to, say, getting planning permission. Once that happens, the value of EFC increases massively.(as happened when LFC got planning permission in Stanley Park). So a nice final payout?
Im only surmising as are we all, and it may be that Moshiri thinks hes brilliant. Maybe he is and were all wrong!
70 Posted 30/01/2020 at 14:22:02
71 Posted 30/01/2020 at 14:31:10
What you say is true reference the Board and Kenwright as Chairman. As you say the situation I have described rarely happens, votes taken accompany a lot of awareness regards legally and where the power lies. Kenwright is a good political operatior and has enriched himself in the process. His remaining shares will go up in value no matter what he does.
Brands has done a good job off loading players via sale and loan, but there must be a feeling that realising value is important, so as not to make Moshiri look a complete idiot.
I have been involved in Clubs, across various sports and without fail the Club that won the Cup had a well run Committee/Board as well as a well run team. A Chairman through a unsuccessful tenure, will never be the Chairman through a successful tenure.
Brands can do his bit and professionally
with Ancelotti. But they are going to be up against it because of the way Everton is currently run.
72 Posted 30/01/2020 at 16:34:31
I think your summation is pretty accurate and the SPA probably also consists of conditions and authority of his continuing tenure as Chairman.
Kenwright was a Director during the Johnson era, Johnson made money on the sale of Everton and Kenwright has topped that. It has occurred to me that Kenwright position is not a bad one. As you say it depends timing and what Moshiris motivation is in buying Everton.
John Woods former Director it was reported on ToffeeWeb said that it would be difficult to sell Everton, because of Kenwrights condition of sale. Moshiri got Everton at a bargain price, though he did have to accept Kenwright conditions. The future potential value of Everton, a front seat on a major Docklands and a Premier League Club of standing where probably the main incentives.
Kenwright can sit back with his 5% shareholder assured that it will be worth something. Brands I believe was brought on to the Board to stop Kenwright &Co hemeraging more money. The money waste on appalling player was a disgrace. The longer Kenwright can hang in the richer he will become and it may cheaper for Moshiri to buy him. off rather than lose now money.
Moshiri/Usmanov is prepared to to!erate Kenwright, because Kenwright does know the authorities and they have seen at Chelsea what happens if a foreign owner puts hishead above the parapet. They are well use to doing business the way they are doing it.
The problem is the result of all of this on Everton on the pitch.
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