Seasons2020-21Rumour Mill
Everton back in for Zaha
That's according to Goal who say that the winger could be available for £40m this summer, a 50% discount on the £80m Palace were asking two years ago when Everton were rebuffed in their attempts to sign him.
"I feel like I can have another shot at the top teams, because my dream is to win things," Zaha said to . "I'm good enough to go out there and compete with the best.
"If the opportunity came, I wouldn't turn it down, because I feel like I deserve it. It's so I can show my kids: 'this is what daddy won'."
Insert "not much chance of that at Everton" joke here...
Original Source: Goal via MailSport
Reader Comments (125)
Note: the following content is not moderated or vetted by the site owners at the time of submission. Comments are the responsibility of the poster. Disclaimer
2 Posted 25/05/2021 at 17:46:33
At 28, Zaha has already reached his peak and his form is only going to go one way. We need young hungry players like Diaby, Toney and Aarons.
The only older player I'd take this summer is Koulibaly cos he has the leadership and quality to sort the defence out. He'd cost around €40M but you offset a chunk of that by selling Holgate to Newcastle, if they still want him.
3 Posted 25/05/2021 at 17:52:45
Not what we need.
4 Posted 25/05/2021 at 18:09:41
5 Posted 25/05/2021 at 18:12:53
6 Posted 25/05/2021 at 18:23:26
7 Posted 25/05/2021 at 18:35:23
Gavin's @4 suggestion works for me; otherwise, I can't see it happening.
If the Groundhog Day theme continues, no-one will pay the asking price, their new manager will convince him to stay, and next June, the same rumour will be out and about again.
8 Posted 25/05/2021 at 18:45:49
Zaha incidentally, rates Bolasie as the best player he's ever played with.
9 Posted 25/05/2021 at 18:51:13
10 Posted 25/05/2021 at 19:15:26
11 Posted 25/05/2021 at 19:18:24
Zaha ain't it, imo.
12 Posted 25/05/2021 at 19:19:07
He's 28, and will be 29 in November. And we simply can't be buying more players at top value and top wages when their values will only fall.
Sometimes it is worthwhile: Allan for example is a player who I think is worth buying. But they need to be exceptions to the rule.
More Ben Godfreys, less Gylfi Sigurdssons. That has to be the way forward.
Dwight McNeill, Pedro Neto, Ismaïla Sarr are 3 examples of players we could probably get for similar money but who fit much better the profile that we need going forward. This is what Brands was brought to do.
13 Posted 25/05/2021 at 19:21:30
14 Posted 25/05/2021 at 19:22:14
Can someone explain to me how it is being reported that PSG only want to pay between €25M and €30M for a young striker who has scored goals in the Italian, French and English top divisions? Yet Crystal Palace want £40 million for Zaha??
Mind, if they know we are interested, put another £15 million on the true asking price as we paid Swansea £45 million for Sigurdsson when most thought he was worth £25 million tops.
15 Posted 25/05/2021 at 19:25:40
16 Posted 25/05/2021 at 19:31:40
£40M is certainly better value than the ridiculous £70M we were last quoted and, as a circa 10-goal-a-season man now, he would make a difference – for up to about 3 seasons before the athleticism wanes.
But to me, it's probably along the lines of a Sigurdsson type player. A big fish in a small pond who already failed once at a big club and isn't of any interest to actual Champions League clubs.
Even at a mere £40M (not a lot these days), it'll be us, Spurs and Arsenal looking at him – the three big-spending under-performing mugs of the Premier League. That probably says it all.
17 Posted 25/05/2021 at 19:39:26
Iwobi currently is worth about 20p so that's a non-starter. I'd take Zaha but I'd prefer Saint Maximin from Newcastle. What a player he is.
18 Posted 25/05/2021 at 19:41:24
This lad has shat on Palace since he got back, so in no way has the personality we need – let Spurs have him, alongside Gareth "in that order" Bale.
We need hungry players, not yet more expensive "established" players who feign a cross / pass so they can check their image in the mirror... we've got enough of them!
19 Posted 25/05/2021 at 19:42:00
Not averse to Zaha coming, he is certainly a game changer on his day, it's just how many times does he have his day? Also how much are we talking about Transfer Fee wise?
He is the wrong side of 29 and soon to be 30 (November), so will he still be available week-in & week-out? And will he really still be able to make a massive difference?
20 Posted 25/05/2021 at 19:47:19
We done this under Koeman and they all know too much about losing.
Keep buying from the bottom half and that is where the quality will guide us to.
21 Posted 25/05/2021 at 19:50:58
22 Posted 25/05/2021 at 19:54:27
23 Posted 25/05/2021 at 19:57:07
24 Posted 25/05/2021 at 19:57:22
25 Posted 25/05/2021 at 19:59:56
26 Posted 25/05/2021 at 20:06:09
Diaby at Leverkusen has 16 goal contributions and would cost about the same. Neres has scored at the Bernebeu in the Champions League and would probably be cheaper.
27 Posted 25/05/2021 at 20:11:36
Diaby looks good too and would be happy with him.
But sometimes a young player who has had his 'breaking in period' at another club is worth it - like Mane at them.
Maximim is 24, and and has proven himself in the PL, but still has much more development.
28 Posted 25/05/2021 at 20:19:05
29 Posted 25/05/2021 at 20:24:22
30 Posted 25/05/2021 at 20:39:01
31 Posted 25/05/2021 at 20:45:44
32 Posted 25/05/2021 at 20:45:52
I'd like us to buy Moussa Diaby, Leon Bailey or Mateus Pereira
33 Posted 25/05/2021 at 20:49:55
I know a lot of people don't like the idea of buying from a relegated club BUT Matheus Pereira would be a great buy for me. 30 starts, 11 goals, 6 assists and I never saw his head drop even when he knew West Brom were going down.
The other player who really impressed me was Bissuma. He could transform the midfield beyond recognition.
34 Posted 25/05/2021 at 20:59:04
35 Posted 25/05/2021 at 21:01:57
Imagine Pereira teaming up with Aarons down the right side. Aarons pace getting down the flank with Pereira's trickery and ability to cut in and score goals
36 Posted 25/05/2021 at 21:05:58
Who we want and who we can get will be two different things. Most of these players like Bailey and Diaby will have European football options too. Brands, Ancelotti and Farhad's chequebook will have to do the sweet talking and financial business to get someone of that calibre signed.
37 Posted 25/05/2021 at 21:06:25
38 Posted 25/05/2021 at 21:06:36
39 Posted 25/05/2021 at 21:10:50
I think Robert Tressell has the right idea with CL potential signings..
As easy as it sounds.
40 Posted 25/05/2021 at 21:18:40
41 Posted 25/05/2021 at 21:23:16
42 Posted 25/05/2021 at 21:25:25
43 Posted 25/05/2021 at 21:34:48
Kean and Holgate are our cash cows this transfer window. Aaons from Norwich with Holgate going the other way. The money for Kean should be enough to get us a right winger / midfielder, with a bit left over for the wages of an out of contract buy. If we are then not prepared or able to then spend £30m - £40m on Koulibaly why do we exist ?
44 Posted 25/05/2021 at 21:39:26
45 Posted 25/05/2021 at 21:57:16
He's a fine footballer, for sure.
Palace locked him in for 5 years at 130 per week a couple years ago. If he wanted to "move up" at the time, he could have played out his contract and accepted offers.
He didn't. "It's so I can show my kids: 'this is what daddy won'." Seriously dude?
My view is that he's perfectly happy where he is these next 2 seasons.
46 Posted 25/05/2021 at 22:22:03
47 Posted 25/05/2021 at 22:40:54
48 Posted 25/05/2021 at 23:02:35
Forget about this guy already.
49 Posted 25/05/2021 at 23:06:19
50 Posted 25/05/2021 at 23:23:26
51 Posted 25/05/2021 at 23:33:41
A gamble we can't afford.
52 Posted 26/05/2021 at 00:02:06
53 Posted 26/05/2021 at 00:27:25
A front line of Zaha, Richarlison and DCL would get goals, plus getting rid of Iwobi would be ace!
54 Posted 26/05/2021 at 07:30:41
55 Posted 26/05/2021 at 07:41:18
,"Ouch papa"
,,,1,07:39:34,,212.129.86.161,ok,23659,05/26/2021 07:39:34,BrendanMcLaughlin,reader,,,no 1158418,40854,toffeeweb,26/05/2021,Colin Glassar,colinglassar@yahoo.co.uk,"I see Carlo flew back to Italy straight after the game to be with his dying former wife.
People are in quick to criticise without knowing what goes on behind the scenes. COVID, break-ins, having to manage shit players like Iwobi, Davies and Gomes and worrying about the mother of his children.
Moshiri, when he hired Carlo, knew this was a long term rebuild and so it will be. Cry, shout, stomp your feet all you want, Carlo will still be here next season and probably the season after that as well.
56 Posted 26/05/2021 at 08:16:46
57 Posted 26/05/2021 at 08:27:09
58 Posted 26/05/2021 at 08:44:18
Please don't buy players for reputation sake, buy players with a hard working mentality and build a team to take us to the next level.
59 Posted 26/05/2021 at 09:03:45
60 Posted 26/05/2021 at 09:05:52
As regards Iwobi, I doubt that he would be part of any potential deal should one occur. He, like so many at the club are going to be impossible to offload. There is no team in the Premiership with as many unwanted players as us.
At the start of Siva's second season we failed to sign Zaha, lost Gana and Kurt and acquired Sidibe, Kean, Gbamin and Iwobi. What a disaster and the rest as they say is history!
61 Posted 26/05/2021 at 09:14:11
62 Posted 26/05/2021 at 09:22:27
These people have our game all stitched up between themselves, a merry go round of making money.
No wonder local kids hardly ever make it to the top.
The photos posted by James R lounging in a private jet say it all. Where was he at Goodison v Wolves meeting the fans, or v Man C supporting his team mates ??
Credit where its due to the Man U fans for trying to salvage some respect for their club but we are really just the pawns in the game these days
63 Posted 26/05/2021 at 09:46:50
Having lost the long term manager, Palace are in for a strange time and must be most people's favourites to go down next season. Zaha will leave, Eze is injured and will stay till Jan at least
64 Posted 26/05/2021 at 10:20:17
65 Posted 26/05/2021 at 10:27:36
I think the Zaha ship has sailed for us now, he's a player that would have fitted the bill in Silva's first summer of 2018.
I think we need players now that are more consistent and we need players on that pitch more often, that's why to some extent even the like of Allan and James are not the profile we need right now.
66 Posted 26/05/2021 at 11:01:08
Coming to Zaha, the guy is an intelligent footballer. In the present Everton forward line, we have players who have ability, but lack intelligence (DCL, Richarlison), or those that have the intelligence but lack the ability (Gomes, Siggy) and those that lack both (Iwobi, Bernard, Delph, etc). Zaha is a smart footballer with loads of ability. Yes, 40 million for a (soon to be ) 29 year old player is a lot. But, if Brands can work his negotiating skills and bring that down to 25-30 million, then it would be worth going for him.
And to those waving the Perreira flag, YES please! I have already mentioned on a few threads the past couple of months - this guy will improve Everton immeasurably. He is talented, hard-working, aggressive, unselfish, and scores lots of goals. I would rather pay 40 million for Perreira than Zaha.
And Paul "haven't we learned from buying from relegation battling sides?" Two words - Ben, Godfrey.
67 Posted 26/05/2021 at 11:02:45
No thanks
68 Posted 26/05/2021 at 11:40:12
Part of me thinks yes. Pace, direct the goal scoring wide player that Carlo himself has been talking about. Does he actually score that often by the way? I know he impacts games but without looking, not sure on his actual goal scoring record. Will leave that to the stattos.
But then I also see big fish in small pond. I'll excuse the fact he was young when he made the jump to United, but he came back relatively quickly with his tail between his legs to sit in his comfort zone.
As others have said above, that could suggest another Sigurdsson who looked a world beater at Swansea, but didn't cut it at Tottenham and has frustrated at Everton.
Stage fright?
69 Posted 26/05/2021 at 11:41:23
In other news I see Leicester are buying Soumare for £20m. Once again I am jealous of how well they do business. Soumare is quite raw but looks very talented and crucially is very good at actually moving the ball forwards, whilst being highly athletic. Anyone else sound like they could use a player like that?!
70 Posted 26/05/2021 at 12:14:33
The only season we actually played Sigurdsson mostly in his favoured position he got 13 goals and 6 assists. Which again is pretty reasonable, but there's a reason he has never really helped us push on, or been courted by 'bigger' clubs.
The trouble is he is fairly limited to good set pieces (though yet to score a single free kick for us in the league) and shooting from outside the box. His passing is pretty decent but he struggles to beat a man and does not show for the ball as much as he might. In a team that wants to have more of the ball that makes him a pretty limited number 10, he doesn't create enough from open play and he doesn't find space so drifts out of games. I would say this was pretty evident in his time at Swansea too but for some reason we decided to overpay vastly for him.
The reason I say this is that he is a perfect example of our struggles. Poor recruitment, overpaying for a set piece specialist in a team that wanted to start playing better possession football. At £20-25m and on 70k p/w he might have made sense as an option to have up our sleeve, but at £45m and on 100k+p/w we wasted a huge amount of money on a player probably better suited to a scrapping lower half team who we can not get rid of because no-one would dream of matching his transfer fee or wage. Very poor judgement, the sort we need to move away from.
It's not about buying good players its about buying the right players. If we are to play some better football like Carlo claims to want then we need to buy some players who actually want the ball, who are comfortable on it and have the desire and athleticism to move into space and receive it. Zaha could be that player but at his age you might think that both his desire and athleticism may begin to wane in the near future.
71 Posted 26/05/2021 at 12:22:51
Kieran @47. It's true a UK crypto zoologist has found Bigfoot. He is a tall lumbering beast that brings chaos and terrifies the locals every time they see him where he is known as 'Iwobi'. Just for good measure he also located Bigfoot's close relative Bighead, who often appears right and centre behind him.
72 Posted 26/05/2021 at 12:26:31
73 Posted 26/05/2021 at 12:26:49
I meant that he looked great in a smaller club, which attracted he attention. The use of world beater overstated that. Once you hit enter it's there in black and white unless you make the edit deadline!
I'm drawing parallels. Big fish in small pond versus having the expectation to deliver on the big stage.
74 Posted 26/05/2021 at 12:27:46
Another is Buendia, who would be ideal as an alternative to James who can't be trusted to be fit for 2 games. So alternatingly between Buendia and James (or playing both when adventurous) would be a huge boost.
But I am confident we will sign 30-year-old Trippier for £30 million, 28-year-old Zaha for £40 million, and new 5-year contracts for Gomes and Sigurdsson.
75 Posted 26/05/2021 at 12:41:02
Talk about keeping a dog (Brands) and barking yourself.
It's no wonder we're in a shit state.
76 Posted 26/05/2021 at 12:48:49
Not necessarily a wide player, but can come in from the width and is an attacking midfielder who will get and create goals.
Sabitzer.
No players are quite the same and we should never compare like for like as that is impossible. But in terms of style, think Kanchelskis and, dare I say, De Bruyne.
77 Posted 26/05/2021 at 12:48:58
78 Posted 26/05/2021 at 12:51:37
Buendia is the guy we should break the bank for probably £10m cheaper than Zaha. 16 goals and almost as many assists in almost 40 games. I know it was the Championship but he managed a whole season.
79 Posted 26/05/2021 at 12:55:29
The reason that he looks good at Crystal Palace is that the whole team is built to facilitate him and, to be fair, maybe he also gives a bit of his soul as it is his club.
He was garbage at Man Utd; garbage at Cardiff. He is also the wrong age for us especially for a winger. He is coming for a pay day, let's be honest. If he's looking to win something, why would he come here, unless he wants to win by aiming to finish 7th.
80 Posted 26/05/2021 at 13:00:17
If that's true about Moshiri, I just hope he's learnt a lesson?
I always thought Brands brought him in and was disappointed at Brands for doing so. Too many chefs in this kitchen throwing ingredients into just the one pan!
81 Posted 26/05/2021 at 13:10:18
I wanted us to sign him for a while because he's a match winner and god knows we need one of them. For Zaha it would be a step up, unlike some of our other ‘star signings' for whom Everton has been a step down with the resulting affect of complacency in the squad.
Now he is 28 and Palace have had his best years I'm not so sure. I think this transfer has already been agreed last year in principle with the player and with Everton.. Our failure to qualify for Europe may have complicated matters.
82 Posted 26/05/2021 at 13:24:41
83 Posted 26/05/2021 at 13:31:20
I suppose one of the downsides of having a rich benefactor is that due to his financial input he can and sometimes will dictate how his money is spent.
Can somebody please send Farhad an updated Premier League highlights DVD so that he doesn't bring in any more once good but pretty useless players for our current predicament.
Failing that can Carlo and Brands be strong enough to persuade him to trust them to do the jobs that they were hired to do?
As for Zaha, he will want at least a four year contract on very high wages and could prove to be another in the long line of players who prove to be too costly for the club, without contributing what is required for the team on a regular basis.
84 Posted 26/05/2021 at 13:45:52
At the right money I'd take a punt.
85 Posted 26/05/2021 at 13:57:25
Rooney
Sigurdsson
Bolasie
Tosun
Rooneys 160k per week, and the other 3 combined tranfers fees approx 100 million. The piss taking yet again reached another level, as Mo Salah was 9 million cheaper than Sigurdsson and was on 70k per week less than Rooney. The only saving grace is it was pre Brands, that said he brought in Delph and Iwobi.
It's enough to make all blues cry!
86 Posted 26/05/2021 at 14:29:49
We surely need younger, hungrier players like his team mate Eze or Ivan Toney at Brentford - I am sure there are plenty of championship and league one players who could be developed rather than throwing 40 million plus around and being saddled with ludicrously lucrative contracts for these wasters.. There are already too many senior pros at the club who see Everton as a place to underachieve and get paid handsomely for it.
87 Posted 26/05/2021 at 14:43:47
The ploy of hitting the high ball to DCL only paid off on rare occasions and the support from ''sulky'' Richarlison was minimal. We do need however, class creative players unless Carlo feels he can make a silk purse from a sow's ear with what he has.
However, Zaha himself can be inconsistent and it appears we have too many in that category already and can't get shut of them.
Quality offensive players come at a high price and somehow I think Zaha will prefer to go to Spurs.
88 Posted 26/05/2021 at 14:45:35
Can players meet fans without breaking the bubble that has been created?
89 Posted 26/05/2021 at 14:53:48
Danny @73, yes, was not meaning to pick on you at all it was just that I thought it raised an interesting point about our recruitment and tendency to go towards 'glamour' players without actually thinking about what team needs and longer-term strategies. Perhaps a result of Moshiri's influence. Sigurdsson, Bolasie, Rooney and possibly Rodriguez may fall into this category. Zaha may too if that comes to pass, though we do at least need a player of that profile (someone who can progress the ball and score/assist goals regularly).
90 Posted 26/05/2021 at 15:43:14
He should have thought of that before he signed a new five year deal with Palace in 2017. He had his chance at Manu and blew it. He'll be 29 in November and I have no doubt he would expect at least as much as the £150,000 pw Palace are paying him. Swerve on this one.
91 Posted 26/05/2021 at 16:16:14
Just wondering about this because we've been linked.
92 Posted 26/05/2021 at 16:17:59
93 Posted 26/05/2021 at 16:20:05
94 Posted 26/05/2021 at 16:24:01
Some media picked up on that but I thought his answer to the following question was more telling. When asked about Kane leaving this summer he said "He's a massive player for us here and everyone wants him to stay." To me that implies Bale expects to be staying
95 Posted 26/05/2021 at 16:49:22
96 Posted 26/05/2021 at 17:01:01
Who knows?
97 Posted 26/05/2021 at 17:17:44
98 Posted 26/05/2021 at 17:20:03
99 Posted 26/05/2021 at 17:22:46
Has this chap got the character of Andy Gray - he was by both the manager and players of the time credited with a lot of the positive feeling that came to pass within that dressing room.
I have seen nothing to date to suggest this guy is the same - unless he is available at a silly price (i.e. direct exchange for Iwobi, Bernard or Delph for example) my instincts say leave well alone - it is somewhat of a poor reflection on Brands if this is what his tenure as DoF is offering in my view
100 Posted 26/05/2021 at 17:22:54
101 Posted 26/05/2021 at 17:24:59
Everton should just set the price and say if it's not me he goes nowhere!
Let's hope young Moise doesn't pay a non-refundable deposit!
102 Posted 26/05/2021 at 17:38:06
103 Posted 26/05/2021 at 17:45:49
Thing is Gray cost us pennies really whereas Zaha will cost most of our transfer budget
Another poseur we can do without
Agree regarding Kean. Set the price and put up or shut up
If he comes back and continues this petted lip shite just put him in the U23's
About time we turned the tables on these halfwits
104 Posted 26/05/2021 at 18:07:23
Meanwhile we'll be seeing if Seamus fancies a new contract and closing Zaha for £50m.
105 Posted 26/05/2021 at 18:08:44
Not surprised at PSG's valuation
106 Posted 26/05/2021 at 18:40:09
107 Posted 26/05/2021 at 19:44:10
Start with players that went down with clubs from the Premier League first,then Championship,League 1 etc...no more foreign Mercenaries looking for a fast buck please.
Stevens
Decordova-Reid
Pereira
108 Posted 26/05/2021 at 19:49:37
Exactly right, we've never had anyone British coming in here, picking up a paycheck and stinking out the place. Look how well Ashley Williams did when we ditched that mercenary Distin. You didn't see Darron Gibson crying off sick all the time like James. Give me Richard Wright any day over Tim Howard. Then you get legends like Simon Davies and James Beattie versus wasters like Pienaar and Saha.
109 Posted 26/05/2021 at 20:04:35
110 Posted 26/05/2021 at 20:29:08
Just saying the "no more foreign Mercenaries" is very small minded. We've had some great posts on ToffeeWeb for example from Blues in Nigeria who possibly supported the club originally as they like most of us were impressed with quality players like Yobo. None of us want "mercenaries" but there's nothing to suggest they are all foreign.
111 Posted 26/05/2021 at 20:35:29
112 Posted 26/05/2021 at 20:35:29
113 Posted 26/05/2021 at 20:38:05
114 Posted 26/05/2021 at 23:12:00
115 Posted 26/05/2021 at 23:17:53
Hope we have learned from past mistakes, but Ancellotti seems to like this type of player, he obviously doesn't trust kids, prefers the “finished “ article.
116 Posted 26/05/2021 at 00:07:03
At least the three players I listed have Premier League experience already, would not cost the earth and imho would improve us, as currently we are a total shambles.
117 Posted 27/05/2021 at 10:40:39
118 Posted 27/05/2021 at 15:00:52
119 Posted 27/05/2021 at 15:28:27
120 Posted 27/05/2021 at 15:52:03
121 Posted 27/05/2021 at 16:27:55
122 Posted 27/05/2021 at 19:11:39
123 Posted 28/05/2021 at 11:03:31
124 Posted 05/06/2021 at 18:16:02
125 Posted 07/06/2021 at 18:26:39
Add Your Comments
In order to post a comment, you need to be logged in as a registered user of the site.
Or Sign up as a ToffeeWeb Member — it's free, takes just a few minutes and will allow you to post your comments on articles and Talking Points submissions across the site.
1 Posted 25/05/2021 at 17:38:42