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Everton back in for Zaha

| Tuesday, 25 May 2021 125comments  |  Jump to last
Everton are ready to reignite their interest in Wilfried Zaha but face competition from Tottenham after the Ivorian signalled his desire to play for one of the "top teams".

That's according to Goal who say that the winger could be available for £40m this summer, a 50% discount on the £80m Palace were asking two years ago when Everton were rebuffed in their attempts to sign him.

"I feel like I can have another shot at the top teams, because my dream is to win things," Zaha said to The Face. "I'm good enough to go out there and compete with the best.

"If the opportunity came, I wouldn't turn it down, because I feel like I deserve it. It's so I can show my kids: 'this is what daddy won'."

Insert "not much chance of that at Everton" joke here...

Original Source: Goal via MailSport  

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Phil Malone Jnr
1 Posted 25/05/2021 at 17:38:42
Have we not learned from bolasie? Good player, don’t get me wrong. But, not the profile of player I’d like at the club. He’s in a bit of a pickle, he thinks he’s top 6 worthy (and he possibly is) but clubs are looking for young diamonds in the rough for less money now. Especially us
Gavin Johnson
2 Posted 25/05/2021 at 17:46:33
Sounds like Lazy journalism when the manager as already said we want a right sided attacker. If we could offload some deadwood like Iwobi or Gomes as part of the deal then it would be a yes for me cos Zaha would definitely improve us. Otherwise, this makes no sense and is the kind of deal we need to get away from.

At 28, Zaha has already reached his peak and his form is only going to go one way. We need young hungry players like Diaby, Toney and Aarons.

The only older player I'd take this summer is Koulibaly cos he has the leadership and quality to sort the defence out. He'd cost around €40M but you offset a chunk of that by selling Holgate to Newcastle, if they still want him.

Jay Harris
3 Posted 25/05/2021 at 17:52:45
There is no doubt Zaha is a good player but, for me, he has a questionable personality and there is enough disharmony in the squad right now.

Not what we need.

Gavin Johnson
4 Posted 25/05/2021 at 18:09:41
Offer them £20m and Iwobi. Deal or no deal!
Kunal Desai
5 Posted 25/05/2021 at 18:12:53
No thanks. Zaha is the new Riquelme.
Michael Lynch
6 Posted 25/05/2021 at 18:23:26
We've got Iwobi, why would we want Zaha?
Tony Everan
7 Posted 25/05/2021 at 18:35:23
It's like Groundhog Day this rumour, he's been coming to us since he was 25!

Gavin's @4 suggestion works for me; otherwise, I can't see it happening.

If the Groundhog Day theme continues, no-one will pay the asking price, their new manager will convince him to stay, and next June, the same rumour will be out and about again.

Will Mabon
8 Posted 25/05/2021 at 18:45:49
I've waited several years, hoping to see what all the fuss is about, and still haven't seen it.

Zaha incidentally, rates Bolasie as the best player he's ever played with.

Iakovos Iasonidis
9 Posted 25/05/2021 at 18:51:13
Please no. There are much better wingers in the market, younger, better and cheaper.
Bill Gienapp
10 Posted 25/05/2021 at 19:15:26
I agree with Jay (3) - my impression of Zaha is that he won't hesitate to check out if things go south, and for a team that blows hot and cold (to say the least), that's not a good combination.
Dennis Stevens
11 Posted 25/05/2021 at 19:18:24
We need a latter day Tricky Trev.

Zaha ain't it, imo.

Fran Mitchell
12 Posted 25/05/2021 at 19:19:07
He's a quality player. He really is. We should have been in for him after he failed to make it at Man Utd. But now, it's too late.

He's 28, and will be 29 in November. And we simply can't be buying more players at top value and top wages when their values will only fall.

Sometimes it is worthwhile: Allan for example is a player who I think is worth buying. But they need to be exceptions to the rule.

More Ben Godfreys, less Gylfi Sigurdssons. That has to be the way forward.

Dwight McNeill, Pedro Neto, Ismaïla Sarr are 3 examples of players we could probably get for similar money but who fit much better the profile that we need going forward. This is what Brands was brought to do.

Kieran Kinsella
13 Posted 25/05/2021 at 19:21:30
I am going up to the roof. Call me before deadline day if this turns out to be another fake rumor.
Brian Harrison
14 Posted 25/05/2021 at 19:22:14
I would have taken his team mate Eze before Zaha but sadly the lad has suffered a bad injury so will be out for many months.

Can someone explain to me how it is being reported that PSG only want to pay between €25M and €30M for a young striker who has scored goals in the Italian, French and English top divisions? Yet Crystal Palace want £40 million for Zaha??

Mind, if they know we are interested, put another £15 million on the true asking price as we paid Swansea £45 million for Sigurdsson when most thought he was worth £25 million tops.

David Currie
15 Posted 25/05/2021 at 19:25:40
No, No, McNneil, Diaby, Bailey and Traore are all better and younger. We need Godfrey-type players from now on – young, hungry and fast. I hope Carlo is not going to get players like Bale, Isco, or Ramos.
Robert Tressell
16 Posted 25/05/2021 at 19:31:40
I generally drone on about focussing on high quality youth with the ability to play Champions League. I do strongly feel that's the best way to go.

£40M is certainly better value than the ridiculous £70M we were last quoted and, as a circa 10-goal-a-season man now, he would make a difference – for up to about 3 seasons before the athleticism wanes.

But to me, it's probably along the lines of a Sigurdsson type player. A big fish in a small pond who already failed once at a big club and isn't of any interest to actual Champions League clubs.

Even at a mere £40M (not a lot these days), it'll be us, Spurs and Arsenal looking at him – the three big-spending under-performing mugs of the Premier League. That probably says it all.

Colin Glassar
17 Posted 25/05/2021 at 19:39:26
Gavin 4,

Iwobi currently is worth about 20p so that's a non-starter. I'd take Zaha but I'd prefer Saint Maximin from Newcastle. What a player he is.

Michael Boardman
18 Posted 25/05/2021 at 19:41:24
No, no, no, no, no... I can't remember the rest of the words to the song, but do think there was a 'No' in there.

This lad has shat on Palace since he got back, so in no way has the personality we need – let Spurs have him, alongside Gareth "in that order" Bale.

We need hungry players, not yet more expensive "established" players who feign a cross / pass so they can check their image in the mirror... we've got enough of them!

Derek Knox
19 Posted 25/05/2021 at 19:42:00
So he wants to win things? I know the feeling, all too well. I believe they have a cracking Raffle at Finch Farm every week, so WE may just be his preferred choice!

Not averse to Zaha coming, he is certainly a game changer on his day, it's just how many times does he have his day? Also how much are we talking about Transfer Fee wise?

He is the wrong side of 29 and soon to be 30 (November), so will he still be available week-in & week-out? And will he really still be able to make a massive difference?

Paul A Smith
20 Posted 25/05/2021 at 19:47:19
David 15, McNeil can't run. He admits this himself and haven't we learned from buying from relegation battling sides.

We done this under Koeman and they all know too much about losing.

Keep buying from the bottom half and that is where the quality will guide us to.

Michael Boardman
21 Posted 25/05/2021 at 19:50:58
Paul #20, no doubt we enquired about Kane, Ronaldo, Mason Mount, Mane, the whole Bayern team, and Pele, but they won't return our calls.
Michael Boardman
22 Posted 25/05/2021 at 19:54:27
Oh, and Alan Smith, in 16,000 monthly instalments of £450 / month... if we win the league
Fran Mitchell
23 Posted 25/05/2021 at 19:57:07
Yes Colin, Saint-Maximim would be a quality signing. And Joe Willock too.

Paul Swan
24 Posted 25/05/2021 at 19:57:22
No. He doesn’t even look good against us. That’s how bad he is.
Dale Self
25 Posted 25/05/2021 at 19:59:56
Maximin not Zaha. I agree he would be a personality at odds with Everton and could possibly test the locker room in ways we're not ready for. If we had someone consistently sharper than him maybe but we don't have the mettle to deal with his type right now.
Robert Tressell
26 Posted 25/05/2021 at 20:06:09
Really it's about finding best value by getting the next Saint-Maximin. He was bought for £18m after 11 goal contributions for Nice in Ligue 1. This season only 8 goal contributions and he'd cost upwards of £40m.

Diaby at Leverkusen has 16 goal contributions and would cost about the same. Neres has scored at the Bernebeu in the Champions League and would probably be cheaper.

Fran Mitchell
27 Posted 25/05/2021 at 20:11:36
Robert, only 8 but missed a long spell of the season with Long-Covid. Since returning to fitness he's been immense.

Diaby looks good too and would be happy with him.

But sometimes a young player who has had his 'breaking in period' at another club is worth it - like Mane at them.

Maximim is 24, and and has proven himself in the PL, but still has much more development.

Len Hawkins
28 Posted 25/05/2021 at 20:19:05
Riquelme... there's a name from the past. Has he been found sleeping in Niasse's binbag?
Dale Self
29 Posted 25/05/2021 at 20:24:22
I get the preference in finding the next one for maximum asset appreciation but to be fair Ligue 1 is and has been shit for a while. I believe St Maximin is still on a value-creating upward trajectory. Perhaps Diaby and Neres would be better transfer value but I get the feeling St Maximin would be a good fit for this club and roster.
Robert Tressell
30 Posted 25/05/2021 at 20:39:01
Thing is Fran, Mane got 18 goal contributions (11 goals) for Saints the year before moving to the RS. St Maximin is good but he just isn't in that league - if he was, we wouldn't be able to afford to buy him and he'd have better offers anyway.
Nick Page
31 Posted 25/05/2021 at 20:45:44
Absolutely 100% no. No again. And no some more. We need young hungry players, from lower divisions, SPL, Ligue 1 with something to prove that can even add value and possibly be sold on. And recycle. This would be about as typical an Everton signing as you could get - chased him for a few years but keep coming back for more. Infuriating. £40m no chance.
Gavin Johnson
32 Posted 25/05/2021 at 20:45:52
Colin, to be honest I'd be shocked if any club would take Iwobi off us. And to think we paid up to £35m for this guy when all he does is cut inside every time he gets the ball and then either loses the it, or makes a stray pass.

I'd like us to buy Moussa Diaby, Leon Bailey or Mateus Pereira

Ray Said
33 Posted 25/05/2021 at 20:49:55
Zaha himself said he could not settle in the NorthWest when playing for Man Utd and could not wait to get back down south to his support system. That puts me right off the prospect of even considering him

I know a lot of people don't like the idea of buying from a relegated club BUT Matheus Pereira would be a great buy for me. 30 starts, 11 goals, 6 assists and I never saw his head drop even when he knew West Brom were going down.

The other player who really impressed me was Bissuma. He could transform the midfield beyond recognition.

Ralph Basnett
34 Posted 25/05/2021 at 20:59:04
Gavin Johnson
35 Posted 25/05/2021 at 21:01:57
Ray, I think Periera would be a really clever signing. The right age and with 11 goals and 6 assists he's shown he can do it in the Premier League. A few people are naming St Maximin but he'd cost closer to £40m when Pereira has done more and would cost around half the price.

Imagine Pereira teaming up with Aarons down the right side. Aarons pace getting down the flank with Pereira's trickery and ability to cut in and score goals

Tony Everan
36 Posted 25/05/2021 at 21:05:58
Pereira has to be under consideration, very talented footballer, and end product too!, we could do with a bit of that. I think there will be a lot of demand for him, but with our Brazil connection we could get him in.

Who we want and who we can get will be two different things. Most of these players like Bailey and Diaby will have European football options too. Brands, Ancelotti and Farhad’s chequebook will have to do the sweet talking and financial business to get someone of that calibre signed.

Jason Li
37 Posted 25/05/2021 at 21:06:25
Loan out Iwobi for 2 seasons, straight swap for Zaha for 2 years. Put Gordon on the bench to learn off Zaha as also a right footed player. Job done.
Ray Said
38 Posted 25/05/2021 at 21:06:36
Gavin (35) you are right about the value being Periera based on the fact he has done well in a poor team and would address a key failing of the team which is goals from the wide players and the creative ability to assist the strikers.
Paul A Smith
39 Posted 25/05/2021 at 21:10:50
Michael 22 I didnt expect us to be buying the best players in the world but there are clubs all over europe our size with players they can't afford to keep.

I think Robert Tressell has the right idea with CL potential signings..

As easy as it sounds.

Dale Self
40 Posted 25/05/2021 at 21:18:40
Yes Tony and Ray with the Pereira push. Seems he has the ability on the ball to play through the middle as well as right wing skills. Might be a bit more of a risk on the team tranquility thing (has made noise on social media about non-selection early in career). Overall, I think he might have some leadership skills over Maximin but that may be Bruce's effect.
Winston Williamson
41 Posted 25/05/2021 at 21:23:16
Zaha is a huge no. Wrong profile altogether. We sign anymore players in the sig and Walcott market and I will not be watching. I’m not paying to watch shite, I can do that with my local team in league two (hopefully league one soon)...
Dan Nulty
42 Posted 25/05/2021 at 21:25:25
If Chelsea sign Hazard we need to go all out for Hudson Odoi. Not Zaha, within 12 months he will be down at Walcott style impact in games.
Jack Convery
43 Posted 25/05/2021 at 21:34:48
If our scouting system cannot identify better players than what we already have, why the fack to we employ them.

Kean and Holgate are our cash cows this transfer window. Aaons from Norwich with Holgate going the other way. The money for Kean should be enough to get us a right winger / midfielder, with a bit left over for the wages of an out of contract buy. If we are then not prepared or able to then spend £30m - £40m on Koulibaly why do we exist ?

Dale Self
44 Posted 25/05/2021 at 21:39:26
who you supporting in league two Winston? Oh and I left out Gavin on the good words for Pereira. UTFT!
James Flynn
45 Posted 25/05/2021 at 21:57:16

He's a fine footballer, for sure.

Palace locked him in for 5 years at 130 per week a couple years ago. If he wanted to "move up" at the time, he could have played out his contract and accepted offers.

He didn't. "It's so I can show my kids: 'this is what daddy won'." Seriously dude?

My view is that he's perfectly happy where he is these next 2 seasons.

Joe McMahon
46 Posted 25/05/2021 at 22:22:03
Top Teams - Spurs?, I think he means stay in London. It's 4 years too late should have gone for him when Palace did. No sell on value either just like Sigurdsson and many others.
Kieran Kinsella
47 Posted 25/05/2021 at 22:40:54
Daily Star reporting a UK cryptozoologist has found a big foot. Might be worth a punt, free agent, tall, strong, can run for weeks.
Mike Gaynes
48 Posted 25/05/2021 at 23:02:35
Everybody here has it right, but Iakovos #9 sums it up best for me.

Forget about this guy already.

Jerome Shields
49 Posted 25/05/2021 at 23:06:19
God, The Circus is in town. already.
Kevin Molloy
50 Posted 25/05/2021 at 23:23:26
i really think we could get him
Darryl Ritchie
51 Posted 25/05/2021 at 23:33:41
Can be good, when he's in the mood. Goes missing way to often. A bit of a primadonna.

A gamble we can't afford.
Winston Williamson
52 Posted 26/05/2021 at 00:02:06
Dale, Sunny Morecambe
Jim Harrison
53 Posted 26/05/2021 at 00:27:25
If they would take Iwobi in part exchange then it’s a yes from me.

A front line of Zaha, Richarlison and DCL would get goals, plus getting rid of Iwobi would be ace!

Paul Swan
54 Posted 26/05/2021 at 07:30:41
I wouldn’t take Iwobi in part exchange for a 20 year old Renault Clio
Brendan McLaughlin
55 Posted 26/05/2021 at 07:39:34
"Ouch papa"
Steve Brown
56 Posted 26/05/2021 at 08:16:46
Bailey, Pereira or Sarr represent better value.
Tony Abrahams
57 Posted 26/05/2021 at 08:27:09
Are you going to Wembley next Monday, Winston?
Mal van Schaick
58 Posted 26/05/2021 at 08:44:18
Zaha and Richarlison can have lie down sulk together in the penalty area.

Please don’t buy players for reputation sake, buy players with a hard working mentality and build a team to take us to the next level.

Craig Walker
59 Posted 26/05/2021 at 09:03:45
"Daddy signed for a club that had just won a North West Football Award for the best marketing campaign for one of its kit launches and it had won a prestigious award for the best new player announcement by lighting up a building in Colombia. It was obvious, the club was going places when I joined..."
Christopher Timmins
60 Posted 26/05/2021 at 09:05:52
Zaha is a million miles better than Iwobi but he is not what we require at this point in time. We need someone in their early to mid 20's who has a better fitness record.

As regards Iwobi, I doubt that he would be part of any potential deal should one occur. He, like so many at the club are going to be impossible to offload. There is no team in the Premiership with as many unwanted players as us.

At the start of Siva's second season we failed to sign Zaha, lost Gana and Kurt and acquired Sidibe, Kean, Gbamin and Iwobi. What a disaster and the rest as they say is history!

Mark Ryan
61 Posted 26/05/2021 at 09:14:11
Shouldn't the person who signed Iwobi be told to leave the club immediately ? A shocking footballer who would look great in League 1. Who signed him, really ? They need their head testing. £35 million pounds ? Not worth £3.5 million. Anyway, back to should we or shouldn't we with Zaha. No ta
Pete Jeffries
62 Posted 26/05/2021 at 09:22:27
No matter how much we love Everton the fact is we and the EPL is part of a global business marketplace run by foreign owners, managers and agents dealing mainly in foreign players.

These people have our game all stitched up between themselves, a merry go round of making money.

No wonder local kids hardly ever make it to the top.

The photos posted by James R lounging in a private jet say it all. Where was he at Goodison v Wolves meeting the fans, or v Man C supporting his team mates ??

Credit where its due to the Man U fans for trying to salvage some respect for their club but we are really just the pawns in the game these days

Mark Dunford
63 Posted 26/05/2021 at 09:46:50
Well, as someone who lives very near to Crystal Palace and knows a lot of their fans, I'd say we should go for Zaha. He can play across the from three, scores goals, provides assists and is a clear fan favourite with pedigree in this league. Primary position is on right where we sorely need someone with proven record. I suspect he'll remain in London. However, as others say, a deal which swapped say Iwobi and a fee would be good for Everton, Zaha and probably Iwobi who certainly needs to move on.

Having lost the long term manager, Palace are in for a strange time and must be most people's favourites to go down next season. Zaha will leave, Eze is injured and will stay till Jan at least

Denis Hignett
64 Posted 26/05/2021 at 10:20:17
The only player in the Premier league that spends more time on the floor than Richarlison. No thanks.
Jim Bennings
65 Posted 26/05/2021 at 10:27:36
Big impact player but you wonder why nobody like Spurs or Arsenal has pushed on for him in the last three years?

I think the Zaha ship has sailed for us now, he's a player that would have fitted the bill in Silva's first summer of 2018.

I think we need players now that are more consistent and we need players on that pitch more often, that's why to some extent even the like of Allan and James are not the profile we need right now.

Ajay Gopal
66 Posted 26/05/2021 at 11:01:08
Paul (20), McNeil is a good, goal-scoring, hard-working, speedy mid-field player with lots of room for further development. I see him in the mould of Mason Mount, James Madisson, etc. Where did you read that McNeil has himself admitted that he can't run? That would be a very strange comment to make for a football player. Maybe he was referring to a temporary injury or illness? I believe he will be available for an affordable 15-20 million fee.

Coming to Zaha, the guy is an intelligent footballer. In the present Everton forward line, we have players who have ability, but lack intelligence (DCL, Richarlison), or those that have the intelligence but lack the ability (Gomes, Siggy) and those that lack both (Iwobi, Bernard, Delph, etc). Zaha is a smart footballer with loads of ability. Yes, 40 million for a (soon to be ) 29 year old player is a lot. But, if Brands can work his negotiating skills and bring that down to 25-30 million, then it would be worth going for him.

And to those waving the Perreira flag, YES please! I have already mentioned on a few threads the past couple of months - this guy will improve Everton immeasurably. He is talented, hard-working, aggressive, unselfish, and scores lots of goals. I would rather pay 40 million for Perreira than Zaha.

And Paul "haven't we learned from buying from relegation battling sides?" Two words - Ben, Godfrey.

Thomas Richards
67 Posted 26/05/2021 at 11:02:45
Nearly man.
No thanks
Danny O’Neill
68 Posted 26/05/2021 at 11:40:12
Always been curious on this one. And I'll be honest, not sure where I sit. Very undecided.

Part of me thinks yes. Pace, direct the goal scoring wide player that Carlo himself has been talking about. Does he actually score that often by the way? I know he impacts games but without looking, not sure on his actual goal scoring record. Will leave that to the stattos.

But then I also see big fish in small pond. I'll excuse the fact he was young when he made the jump to United, but he came back relatively quickly with his tail between his legs to sit in his comfort zone.

As others have said above, that could suggest another Sigurdsson who looked a world beater at Swansea, but didn't cut it at Tottenham and has frustrated at Everton.

Stage fright?

Sam Hoare
69 Posted 26/05/2021 at 11:41:23
Perreira would be an excellent purchase I agree. Though he's not the quickest. Other young talented wingers of interest might include: Bailey, Tsygankov, Faivre, Madueke, Sulemana, Wamangituka, Ikone, Diaby, Olise, Danjuma, Tzolis, Noa Lang, Goncalo Guedes, Stengs, Chukwueze, Neres, Lookman, Brooks, Antony, Kvaratskhelia, Kang-in Lee, Trincao, Buendia, Neto, Thuram, Cunha, Bryan Gil, Kulusevski, Hudson Odoi, Mcneil, Doku, Rashica etc. Plenty of interesting options!!

In other news I see Leicester are buying Soumare for £20m. Once again I am jealous of how well they do business. Soumare is quite raw but looks very talented and crucially is very good at actually moving the ball forwards, whilst being highly athletic. Anyone else sound like they could use a player like that?!

Sam Hoare
70 Posted 26/05/2021 at 12:14:33
While I'm here, Danny@68 was Sigurdsson a world-beater at Swansea? I think he averaged around 17 goals or assists in his three seasons there. Which is very useful but the large majority of them were from set pieces and penalties. They were a team well set up to revolve around his free kick prowess and long range shooting abilities.

The only season we actually played Sigurdsson mostly in his favoured position he got 13 goals and 6 assists. Which again is pretty reasonable, but there's a reason he has never really helped us push on, or been courted by 'bigger' clubs.

The trouble is he is fairly limited to good set pieces (though yet to score a single free kick for us in the league) and shooting from outside the box. His passing is pretty decent but he struggles to beat a man and does not show for the ball as much as he might. In a team that wants to have more of the ball that makes him a pretty limited number 10, he doesn't create enough from open play and he doesn't find space so drifts out of games. I would say this was pretty evident in his time at Swansea too but for some reason we decided to overpay vastly for him.

The reason I say this is that he is a perfect example of our struggles. Poor recruitment, overpaying for a set piece specialist in a team that wanted to start playing better possession football. At £20-25m and on 70k p/w he might have made sense as an option to have up our sleeve, but at £45m and on 100k+p/w we wasted a huge amount of money on a player probably better suited to a scrapping lower half team who we can not get rid of because no-one would dream of matching his transfer fee or wage. Very poor judgement, the sort we need to move away from.

It's not about buying good players its about buying the right players. If we are to play some better football like Carlo claims to want then we need to buy some players who actually want the ball, who are comfortable on it and have the desire and athleticism to move into space and receive it. Zaha could be that player but at his age you might think that both his desire and athleticism may begin to wane in the near future.

John Kavanagh
71 Posted 26/05/2021 at 12:22:51
I've advocated Pereira on other threads. He is younger and more committed than Zaha, who would follow the by now familiar Everton tradition of starting OK for half a dozen games before disappearing apart from to collect his wages. Not for me.

Kieran @47. It's true a UK crypto zoologist has found Bigfoot. He is a tall lumbering beast that brings chaos and terrifies the locals every time they see him where he is known as 'Iwobi'. Just for good measure he also located Bigfoot's close relative Bighead, who often appears right and centre behind him.

Declan Campbell
72 Posted 26/05/2021 at 12:26:31
Sam Hoare, was that you in an endeavour episode?
Danny O’Neill
73 Posted 26/05/2021 at 12:26:49
Fair point Sam and my terminology was probably overstated.

I meant that he looked great in a smaller club, which attracted he attention. The use of world beater overstated that. Once you hit enter it's there in black and white unless you make the edit deadline!

I'm drawing parallels. Big fish in small pond versus having the expectation to deliver on the big stage.

Fran Mitchell
74 Posted 26/05/2021 at 12:27:46
Pereira is a good player and would complement well our attack. Either he or Saint-Maximim would be much preferable to Zaha.

Another is Buendia, who would be ideal as an alternative to James who can't be trusted to be fit for 2 games. So alternatingly between Buendia and James (or playing both when adventurous) would be a huge boost.

But I am confident we will sign 30-year-old Trippier for £30 million, 28-year-old Zaha for £40 million, and new 5-year contracts for Gomes and Sigurdsson.

Derek Thomas
75 Posted 26/05/2021 at 12:41:02
Mark Ryan @ 61; The rumour (Yes, I know) is that Iwobi is all down to Moshiri, when the Zaha deal fell though... if it was ever really on. Moshiri pushed for him, based on what he saw at Arsenal 5 years previous, so make that 7 years ago.

Talk about keeping a dog (Brands) and barking yourself.

It's no wonder we're in a shit state.

Danny O’Neill
76 Posted 26/05/2021 at 12:48:49
With fear of repeating myself.

Not necessarily a wide player, but can come in from the width and is an attacking midfielder who will get and create goals.


No players are quite the same and we should never compare like for like as that is impossible. But in terms of style, think Kanchelskis and, dare I say, De Bruyne.

Andrew Ellams
77 Posted 26/05/2021 at 12:48:58
No, two years too late at least.
Stephen Vincent
78 Posted 26/05/2021 at 12:51:37
No thanks, way too expensive. No to St Maximin either, way too injury prone and not nearly enough goals, 3 in 25 this season and the same last.

Buendia is the guy we should break the bank for probably £10m cheaper than Zaha. 16 goals and almost as many assists in almost 40 games. I know it was the Championship but he managed a whole season.

Nathan Jones
79 Posted 26/05/2021 at 12:55:29
No, No and No. I was living in Cardiff when Zaha went there on loan and I went to the home games. He was terrible. So terrible that he couldn't get into the team. The Team that finished bottom. He is a headless chicken.

The reason that he looks good at Crystal Palace is that the whole team is built to facilitate him and, to be fair, maybe he also gives a bit of his soul as it is his club.

He was garbage at Man Utd; garbage at Cardiff. He is also the wrong age for us especially for a winger. He is coming for a pay day, let's be honest. If he's looking to win something, why would he come here, unless he wants to win by aiming to finish 7th.

Tom Harvey
80 Posted 26/05/2021 at 13:00:17
Derek Thomas @75,

If that's true about Moshiri, I just hope he's learnt a lesson?

I always thought Brands brought him in and was disappointed at Brands for doing so. Too many chefs in this kitchen throwing ingredients into just the one pan!

Drew O’Neall
81 Posted 26/05/2021 at 13:10:18
People have the wrong impression of Zaha. He’s been a talisman for Palace, far from having a questionable attitude, he’s been a leader.

I wanted us to sign him for a while because he’s a match winner and god knows we need one of them. For Zaha it would be a step up, unlike some of our other ‘star signings’ for whom Everton has been a step down with the resulting affect of complacency in the squad.

Now he is 28 and Palace have had his best years I’m not so sure. I think this transfer has already been agreed last year in principle with the player and with Everton.. Our failure to qualify for Europe may have complicated matters.

Paul Davies
82 Posted 26/05/2021 at 13:24:41
Agree with Andrew #77 and he’s become a bit injury prone.
Barry Hesketh
83 Posted 26/05/2021 at 13:31:20
If Derek is correct in his assertion that Moshiri likes to choose some of his preferred players to sign for Everton, based on what Farhad saw in those players a few years ago, it might explain how the club has become so dysfunctional in the transfer market.

I suppose one of the downsides of having a rich benefactor is that due to his financial input he can and sometimes will dictate how his money is spent.

Can somebody please send Farhad an updated Premier League highlights DVD so that he doesn't bring in any more once good but pretty useless players for our current predicament.

Failing that can Carlo and Brands be strong enough to persuade him to trust them to do the jobs that they were hired to do?

As for Zaha, he will want at least a four year contract on very high wages and could prove to be another in the long line of players who prove to be too costly for the club, without contributing what is required for the team on a regular basis.

Barry Rathbone
84 Posted 26/05/2021 at 13:45:52
I like him he has genuine ability goes past defenders and scores. We need more than James, Digne, Richarlison and DCL to occupy minds we really are easily nullified if any are off their game or not playing.

At the right money I'd take a punt.

Joe McMahon
85 Posted 26/05/2021 at 13:57:25
Barry @84, don't forget Farhads Fab 4 was:

Rooneys 160k per week, and the other 3 combined tranfers fees approx 100 million. The piss taking yet again reached another level, as Mo Salah was 9 million cheaper than Sigurdsson and was on 70k per week less than Rooney. The only saving grace is it was pre Brands, that said he brought in Delph and Iwobi.

It's enough to make all blues cry!

Ed Fitzgerald
86 Posted 26/05/2021 at 14:29:49
Zaha’s goals per game ratio for his premier league career is 0.19 goals per game with 26 assists for a forward I don’t think that’s particularly impressive.I don’t see the point in splashing upwards of 40 million. Our much maligned forwards have goals per game ratios of 0.27 goals per game. One of our midfielders has goal per ratio of 0.21 and has 50 assists over the course of his career.

We surely need younger, hungrier players like his team mate Eze or Ivan Toney at Brentford - I am sure there are plenty of championship and league one players who could be developed rather than throwing 40 million plus around and being saddled with ludicrously lucrative contracts for these wasters.. There are already too many senior pros at the club who see Everton as a place to underachieve and get paid handsomely for it.

Tom Bowers
87 Posted 26/05/2021 at 14:43:47
The lad is a live spark and God knows we need a live spark after some of the inept displays offensively.
The ploy of hitting the high ball to DCL only paid off on rare occasions and the support from ''sulky'' Richarlison was minimal. We do need however, class creative players unless Carlo feels he can make a silk purse from a sow's ear with what he has.

However, Zaha himself can be inconsistent and it appears we have too many in that category already and can't get shut of them.

Quality offensive players come at a high price and somehow I think Zaha will prefer to go to Spurs.

Jim Harrison
88 Posted 26/05/2021 at 14:45:35
Pete 62

Can players meet fans without breaking the bubble that has been created?

Sam Hoare
89 Posted 26/05/2021 at 14:53:48
Declan@72, I have been in Endeavour, yes.

Danny @73, yes, was not meaning to pick on you at all it was just that I thought it raised an interesting point about our recruitment and tendency to go towards 'glamour' players without actually thinking about what team needs and longer-term strategies. Perhaps a result of Moshiri's influence. Sigurdsson, Bolasie, Rooney and possibly Rodriguez may fall into this category. Zaha may too if that comes to pass, though we do at least need a player of that profile (someone who can progress the ball and score/assist goals regularly).

Frank Crewe
90 Posted 26/05/2021 at 15:43:14
"feel like I can have another shot at the top teams, because my dream is to win things,"

He should have thought of that before he signed a new five year deal with Palace in 2017. He had his chance at Manu and blew it. He'll be 29 in November and I have no doubt he would expect at least as much as the £150,000 pw Palace are paying him. Swerve on this one.

Alan Johnson
91 Posted 26/05/2021 at 16:16:14
Just been reading Gareth Bale's interview. He said, "I know where I'm going next season, I can't tell you just yet as it will cause some commotion."

Just wondering about this because we've been linked.

Thomas Richards
92 Posted 26/05/2021 at 16:17:59
Andrew Ellams
93 Posted 26/05/2021 at 16:20:05
If you believe stories about Moshiri interfering, didn't he allegedly go for Silva because of a win he had with Olympiakos against Arsenal in the Champions League?
Kieran Kinsella
94 Posted 26/05/2021 at 16:24:01

Some media picked up on that but I thought his answer to the following question was more telling. When asked about Kane leaving this summer he said "He's a massive player for us here and everyone wants him to stay." To me that implies Bale expects to be staying

Simon Dalzell
95 Posted 26/05/2021 at 16:49:22
I 'd still take him. I really hope this happens. Still just 28 yrs old, even though I know generally we need to be signing younger ones.
Pete Jeffries
96 Posted 26/05/2021 at 17:01:01
Zaha same age as Andy Gray when he joined us and we were struggling to win anything...

Who knows?

Kevin Molloy
97 Posted 26/05/2021 at 17:17:44
That's our two worst buys, Iwobi and Tosun, both linked to Moshiri. Oh well, he's only got himself to blame.
Kieran Kinsella
98 Posted 26/05/2021 at 17:20:03
Moyes the half pint empty soul that he is says the clubs are all skint so the media need to stop exciting fans about summer transfers. I do wonder if this year we will see more creative player exchanges rather than big cash signings.
Ken Kneale
99 Posted 26/05/2021 at 17:22:46

Has this chap got the character of Andy Gray - he was by both the manager and players of the time credited with a lot of the positive feeling that came to pass within that dressing room.

I have seen nothing to date to suggest this guy is the same - unless he is available at a silly price (i.e. direct exchange for Iwobi, Bernard or Delph for example) my instincts say leave well alone - it is somewhat of a poor reflection on Brands if this is what his tenure as DoF is offering in my view

Kieran Kinsella
100 Posted 26/05/2021 at 17:22:54
L’Equppe which is pretty reliable say Kean is house hunting in Paris but that PSG value him at 20 million Euros. What’s that about 15 million quid? Half what we signed him for?
Brian Williams
101 Posted 26/05/2021 at 17:24:59
Kieran. Typical PSG shite, IMO.
Everton should just set the price and say if it's not me he goes nowhere!

Let's hope young Moise doesn't pay a non-refundable deposit!

Kieran Kinsella
102 Posted 26/05/2021 at 17:38:06
Brian agreed and if PSG are going to cry poor then by comparison I can imagine Sean Dyche will be calling up Sheff Utd offering to exchange Ollie McBurnie for a few Panini stickers
John Keating
103 Posted 26/05/2021 at 17:45:49
Thing is Gray cost us pennies really whereas Zaha will cost most of our transfer budget
Another poseur we can do without
Agree regarding Kean. Set the price and put up or shut up
If he comes back and continues this petted lip shite just put him in the U23’s
About time we turned the tables on these halfwits
Daniel Thomas
104 Posted 26/05/2021 at 18:07:23
I see Leicester are quickly and efficiently wrapping up a cheapish deal for soumare.

Meanwhile we’ll be seeing if Seamus fancies a new contract and closing Zaha for £50m.

Barry Rathbone
105 Posted 26/05/2021 at 18:08:44
Regarding Moise Kean I'd be delighted if we got our money back but not surprised if we didn't. His Juve youtube showreel mystified me he looked a fairly rudimentary footballer benefitting from a dominant team and his stumbling efforts here came as no surprise.

Not surprised at PSG's valuation

Bill Hawker
106 Posted 26/05/2021 at 18:40:09
No thanks. It's time Everton stop looking at retreads (we finally stopped buying United's cast offs.) Zaha may be a decent player but I don't think he's a step up at this point. He'd be another Iwobi or Bernard. Well, we have two of those already. Brands and Ancelotti need to be thinking higher quality WITH more potential.
Matthew Williams
107 Posted 26/05/2021 at 19:44:10
I think this particular ship has sailed.

Start with players that went down with clubs from the Premier League first,then Championship,League 1 more foreign Mercenaries looking for a fast buck please.


Kieran Kinsella
108 Posted 26/05/2021 at 19:49:37

Exactly right, we've never had anyone British coming in here, picking up a paycheck and stinking out the place. Look how well Ashley Williams did when we ditched that mercenary Distin. You didn't see Darron Gibson crying off sick all the time like James. Give me Richard Wright any day over Tim Howard. Then you get legends like Simon Davies and James Beattie versus wasters like Pienaar and Saha.

Matthew Williams
109 Posted 26/05/2021 at 20:04:35
I fucking love T.W...we plod on Blues.
Kieran Kinsella
110 Posted 26/05/2021 at 20:29:08

Just saying the "no more foreign Mercenaries" is very small minded. We've had some great posts on ToffeeWeb for example from Blues in Nigeria who possibly supported the club originally as they like most of us were impressed with quality players like Yobo. None of us want "mercenaries" but there's nothing to suggest they are all foreign.

Anthony Dove
111 Posted 26/05/2021 at 20:35:29
No.Volume by Brian Blessed.
Anthony Dove
112 Posted 26/05/2021 at 20:35:29
No.Volume by Brian Blessed.
Brent Stephens
113 Posted 26/05/2021 at 20:38:05
Yes Kieran, “no more mercenaries” is all that needs to be said.
John Raftery
114 Posted 26/05/2021 at 23:12:00
Wrong age, wrong price.
Jeff Armstrong
115 Posted 26/05/2021 at 23:17:53
Wrong age, wrong price,. nailed on for us then!
Hope we have learned from past mistakes, but Ancellotti seems to like this type of player, he obviously doesn’t trust kids, prefers the “finished “ article.
Matthew Williams
116 Posted 26/05/2021 at 00:07:03
Very true, Keiran, we don't as our wage bill would spiral out of control and more than likely we would still have nowt to show for it neither in terms of silverware.

At least the three players I listed have Premier League experience already, would not cost the earth and imho would improve us, as currently we are a total shambles.

Lester Yip
117 Posted 27/05/2021 at 10:40:39
If PSG uses Gueye as a make weight for Kean, say for $9m, would you take it?
Gaute Lie
118 Posted 27/05/2021 at 15:00:52
Derek Moore
119 Posted 27/05/2021 at 15:28:27
Marcel Brands, in the immortal words of the Streets - "Don't mug yourself."
Mark Ryan
120 Posted 27/05/2021 at 15:52:03
I'd have Gueye back in a heartbeat.
Mike Gaynes
121 Posted 27/05/2021 at 16:27:55
Lerster #117, I see no possibility that Gueye would want to come back... by all accounts he's been happy and successful at PSG.

Daniel Debski
122 Posted 27/05/2021 at 19:11:39
Zaha Is a no-no. Too big fee, he wouldn't be playing for peanuts either. At 28 no much of a resale value, Brands can do better I think.
Dale Rose
123 Posted 28/05/2021 at 11:03:31
One of the big clubs. pity he's not a big club player.
Phil Smith
124 Posted 05/06/2021 at 18:16:02
After all the players who just got released from Palace, they'll wanna sell Zaha to the highest bidder, which is hopefully not us. Next. I'd rather Traore.
Simon Dalzell
125 Posted 07/06/2021 at 18:26:39
Just get it done.

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