Kean's future remains unclear despite PSG interest

Everton couldn't possibly agree to a season long loan, what would be gained by that? Either agree a transfer fee now or have him report back for preseason training.
The only question is how big should the fee be and/or do PSG have any players we might be interested in and that doesn't mean anybody we've had before. And with all the talk of somebody getting in DCL's ear in the England camp or Richarlison following Ancelotti to Real we might need all the strikers we can get.

Another Loan is surely out of th question.

If that is the only choice, it must come with an obligation to buy at a set price, a price higher than what they would pay now - say €50million.

If PSG won't agree to purchasing him, then tough beans lad, they obviously don't rate you too highly.

Offer them Iwobi instead and sell Kean to Juventus.

Whatever you think of Kean as a either man or a footballer, and I, like everyone, was excited and hoped to see him as prolific for us as he has been for PSG, I think Duncan finished it for him at Everton. We'll never see him back here.

No way- Yell them to piss off!!!

There is no chance of a loan, how can than that benefit any party other than the player and PSG.
Everton want a fee to reinvest in team building, by the sale of a player who will never wants to return.

PSG aren't stupid. Moise Kean still has three years left on his contract, and as each year passes by, his valuation will decrease. What could be £50M - £55M today could be £35M - £40M in twelve months time. Haven't we been paying a percentage of his salary for the last year, something PSG could easily afford to do on their own, along with the required transfer fee. If he wants to remain in Paris, then so be it, at a cost of £50M - £55M, payable to EFC anytime after the transfer window opens tomorrow.

My message to PSG would be: Buy him or send him back.

I am frustrated that we haven't appointed a manager yet. Until we do, we are likely to be in a transfer limbo.

I like the job that Nuno did at Wolves and, given what I believe is a potentially stronger squad, I would have no trouble with him coming in. He has made some shrewd signings and shown good tactical nous. He struggled this year with key injuries.

Once we have a manager we can really start targeting players. If he arrives with Traore in tow, all the better.

As for Moise Kean. Only if we get manager who can be bothered to massage his huge ego would he want to play for Everton. I think £50M spent on the current squad would have made us more competitive this past season. So I would put a big price ticket on him and say to interested clubs "Come and get him!" We can't let another club or any player hold us to ransom. If Kean is not scoring goals for us next season, we have to cash in.

Brands should speak to Kean's agent and make it crystal clear, Kean is going out on loan again, if Kean wants to leave, a club must meet our valuation of him at £45 to 50 million. If these figures aren't meet, Everton expect Kean back for the first day of pre-season...

if Kean wants out, his agent can get his finger out and source a sale somewhere... Everton should also insist that they have a clause of buy-back and 20% sell-on fee. We need to become more business savvy...

When footballers don't want to play for you anymore, it's easy to just say “If we are paid the right money, then they can leave”.

However, such pacifism is no good for us, and it's no good for the game. The second the new manager is appointed, he should state in his first press conference “with a front 3 of Richarlison, Calvert-Lewin and Kean I believe we have one of the best young forward lines in the world. It's my job to bring in the players to complement them”.

This sends a message to Kean that he's wanted, Raiola that we ain't rolling over (let's face it, it's his pay day that's likely both the catalyst and the current blocker to a move), and everyone else that we are building again.

If he hadn't come near this club, we'd all be excited if we were bidding on PSG's successful loanee. We don't need to bid, we already OWN him! Keep the boy if we have to. If he wants to sulk in the reserves all year or two then that's sad for everyone, but at least it'll show others that our contracts mean something.

Ambition means signing players the PSGs and Juves of the world want… let's start getting some ambition back?

No way are we getting £50M for Kean. Pretty clear already that prices have slumped a little post pandemic.

Soumare going for £20M. Edouard going for under £20M (though both have short contracts). Dortmund now apprently open to selling Sancho for £80m rather than £100M.

I think at best we may get £35-40M from Kean with a sell-on clause.

Perhaps if they give us a £7M loan fee with a future purchase price of £30M, it could make sense? Plus one or two of their players? Rafinha, Gueye, Paredes, Dagba, Pembele, Navas could all be surplus to requirement there but prove very useful to us.

Or we get a new manager who will play him and get the best out of him. What would be crazy would be keeping him here for another year to sit on our bench and decrease in value, he's one of our most sellable assets.

We won't be getting big bucks for him that is for sure. I was expecting Nuno announcement yesterday as I understand we have offered him the job. I can only think the delay is sorting out contracts and shape of his backroom team as I'm sure Everton will insist Dunc remains part of the set up.

If we lose Nuno over Duncan position, it further underpins we are little old Everton and just jobs for the boys

Trouble is if no one else is genuinely interested the idea of this guy being the next big thing doesn't stack up. Scoring a few in France can't disguise the fundamental issues this lad has playing football at the level he purportedly represents. It's time to get real, take it on the chin and admit he was a punt that just never worked out.

Offer him around at £20 million to drum up interest and do a deal at £25 mil. Losing 5 mil ain't great but at least he's gone.

I wonder if the loan is an attempt to manage FFP - a bit like the Mbappe deal. In that case there was an obligation to buy at a certain price which is obviously the main thing. Sam, you're right, it's a terrific opportunity to pick up some of their talent in return. They have Kalimuendo doing very well on loan with Lens, Dagba would be a really good fit and others like Ruiz-Atil, Fadiga and Pembele whom you mention.

They've always seemed to let home grown talent go so easily like Tianzou, Nkunku, Zagadou, Ikone, Edouard and even Rabiot. Maybe we can pick up one coming in the other direction.

I'd like to see big Dunc go out 'on loan' and get his managerial experience (and badges if he needs) - and later come back once we are in our new home.
As for Kean - I have never liked his egoistic attitude and if that doesn't change we need to get rid and invest in players who want to be here and improve and fight.

£30mil plus Dagbe, or £50mil.

He’s useful, if DCL does well at the Euros he’ll be linked then we’re left with Kean up top anyway.

Colin G @ 3, " Offer them Iwobi instead and sell Kean to Juventus. "

Come on Colin, you would miss him, really! :-)

Yep, he had a fine season at PSG by any measure, but I watched replays of the goals he scored, and there was nothing particularly special about them. He played in a dominant attack and finished his chances -- almost all of which were created by other people. We currently have nobody to create those chances for him. And besides, he doesn't want to be here.

I say if we can get a big profit on our £25 million investment, sell him -- and (US bias alert!) buy the huge Yank Daryl Dike, who has gone back to MLS after nearly pulling Barnsley up into the Premier League with 9 in 19 appearances.

We need young, strong, fast players with potential and here's one already under contract.

Bring him back to camp, tell him he ain't leaving, and see if he's going to put in the effort or do a "Lookman".

A player swap deal would work best in this cash-strapped environment. For example, do a straight swap deal with Napoli – Kean going to them and Koulibaly coming in the other direction. I would then swap Holgate for Perreira at WBA – both players are roughly at the same valuation, throw in Delph for good measure to sweeten the deal, if necessary. This fantasy football thing is fun!

Simple: Sell him to Juventus or PSG asap. They can pay £50M+ plus asap, no loans, no staggered payments and always on our terms.

These are two clubs in the so-called stratosphere of European football finances and Kean has said he would play for either! Play them off against each other!

This lad has an even more sulky schoolboy attitude than Lukaku when he is not getting his own way. He has not seemed to learn that his own hard work will determine his future!

Think what we can get for £50m? Two Ben Godfreys, young, hungry and dynamic.

EFC: do not screw this up, we have the upper hand in this deal – Do not fall for the player plus cash deal!

Mike(#20); You've certainly whetted my interest there, Mike, imagining Denzel Dumfries dodging down the wing to deliver the cross for Daryl Dike to despatch past the keeper. If only Dwayne Dibley wasn't on the Red Dwarf.

Colin Glassar @ 3

Is that Iwobi to join their domestic staff? To polish boots and wash kits etc?

I can't see how else he'd make a contribution?

Everton have history of selling younger players below their market value - we sold Lookman and Vlasic for a combined 30 million when they would be with considerably more now.

If Kean is worth 50 million then we hold out for that fee or he returns to Goodison.

Alan J, you've certainly done your DD (due diligence) on that idea!

Steve, the problem is your value is only as good as yesterdays performance, Kean couldn't cut it when I saw him, in fact he looked woeful and if we'd have sold him last season we'd have been lucky to get our money back.

After a good season at PSG his stock will have risen, and we can certainly demand more than we paid, but if we set the bar too high, there's no takers and we insist he comes back to us, what do we do with him next season?

If we play him and he performs like he did in his first season we're back to where we were last season being lucky to recoup what we paid.

I'd love us to get as much as we can and we certainly shouldnt be rolling over for a club like PSG, though equally I think there are plenty of back up strikers they could sign beyond a player who couldnt make it into the Italy squad.

On a completely unrelated post, does anyone know what happened to Steve Ferns? He seems to have ghosted this forum...

Andrew @ 27, I think the loan spell was to give him playing time, further his development and retain his valuation.

As you say, he has done very well - 14 goals in 26 league games and 3 goals in the Champions League. In total, 17 goals in 41 games despite starting from the bench on a number of occasions.

I think we should sell him provided our valuation is met, but we shouldn't compromise too far. We rolled over on Gueye and vastly undervalued him.

Andrew, Steve is alive and kicking and has been posting his views on the new manager on various threads recently. Very welcome, too.

Rumble rumble.. one for deadline day.

IMO he's not as good as I thought he was. He looks clumsy on the ball rather than skilful and potent.

He's young, certainly does have time to improve and some talent but I don't think he's goings to improve Everton next season.

Therefore happy to let go. Realistic sales price £35-40M plus add ons
or Season long loan for £5M upfront and we pay no wages.

Otherwise if our new manager thinks he can get him playing in a more attacking line up then keep him.

4-3-3 sound's great, but our defence and midfield is to slow, static and not good enough to keep possession or play long passes.

Kean is the least of our worries. Get players in, get an experienced and demanding manager then worry about player sales. Other clubs are in a much worse financial position so stay strong, get players in ASAP.

No Euros so less likely to get injured and fresh start for next season.

Get rid of him, he's shite