Premier League — Matchweek 12
By Michael Kenrick 11/11/2023
Only four games from the weekend's Premier League fixtures will be televised in the UK:
Saturday 11 November 2023
12:30 Wolves v Tottenham Hotspur — TNT Sports 1
17:30 Bournemouth v Newcastle Utd — Sky Sports
Sunday 12 November 2023
14:00 West Ham Utd v Nottingham Forest — Sky Sports
16:30 Chelsea v Manchester City — Sky Sports
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Posted
11/11/2023 at
13:29:17
What does the VAR do if they score from a corner that shouldn't have been a corner? Can't get more clear and obvious than the 'wrong' player putting it behind but a corner being given by the on-field ref when it really should have been a goal kick.
Just seen that in the Wolves v Spurs game, but no attempt by the VAR to intervene and correct the wrong decision by the ref in giving the corner. They didn't score but surely this is equally as egregious as a clearly wrong offside decision?
Posted
11/11/2023 at
13:53:29
AI will sort it out in the end. At the moment we're suffering with NFI!
Posted
11/11/2023 at
14:26:14
Absolutely brilliant Wolves goal to level it with Spurs at the death.
Exquisite control and finish — the ball never touched the ground.
Posted
11/11/2023 at
14:31:35
And Wolves win it
Posted
11/11/2023 at
14:33:01
And Wolves win it in added time after losing for 88 minutes. Looks like a jammy finish this time, but maybe Lemina knew just what sort of a touch it needed.
Almost makes ya fall in love with the Premier League all over again!
Most precious sight of all: Son in tears!
Posted
11/11/2023 at
18:52:37
And N'Castle go a goal down.
Posted
11/11/2023 at
18:55:22
A Doucourésian pass into the box by a rather expensive Newcastle defender
Posted
11/11/2023 at
19:04:45
N'Castle 2 down!
Posted
11/11/2023 at
19:06:19
Barcodes at the checkout
Posted
11/11/2023 at
19:07:53
It really has been a decent weekend thus far. I hope it continues tomorrow.
Posted
11/11/2023 at
19:32:16
Michael @1,
I was watching Sunderland v Birmingham earlier today, and Sunderland scored a goal from a corner that shouldn't have been awarded as the ball clearly crossed the goal-line after it bounced out off a Sunderland player.
As you say, all these micro-management techniques for offside and apparent hand-balls, yet for the awards of corners no such scrutiny.
Posted
11/11/2023 at
19:39:02
Topsy turvy day today! I think today is the day that it is becoming apparent that the promoted three are all going down.
How brilliant was Tarkowski today (except for their second!).
Posted
11/11/2023 at
19:50:05
I hate Newcastle almost as much as I hate the RS, their plastic fans are unbearable, fat fuckers with their bellies out thinking they're hard as fuck, not won anything since1969 or whatever, been relegated about 10 times since then and think their chomping at the top table now.
Well they're nowhere near the top table,
Howe disrespected his old club tonight by picking at least 4 Newcastle second string players, Hall, Anderson, Miley?.Willock, no striker, got what they deserved,..fuck all
I absolutely despise NUFC
I'm sorry Bournemouth won from our perspective,
but they deserved it
Newcastle where shite.
Posted
11/11/2023 at
19:51:59
He had three kids who had not played a game between them on the bench, Jeff, and two keepers.
I hate the Skunks but I like Howe!!!
Posted
11/11/2023 at
19:58:01
Paul,
Howe thought he could pick any 11 from 23 and win, he should've known better, he was naive tonight and thought he could manage his squad in a Champions League week and an easy trip to Bournemouth.
He got his eye wiped, and I'm glad he did, he was disrespectful and got his just deserts.
Posted
11/11/2023 at
19:59:03
They have injuries and a couple of banned players, in honesty.
Awful though. Looked nothing like a good team.
Posted
11/11/2023 at
20:02:23
They got schooled by Dortmund. Still think 'disrespectful' is harsh, Jeff, I don't think he had that many options.
But as Will says you still would have expected a better performance.
Posted
11/11/2023 at
20:06:24
I'm hoping that the Bournemouth result opens the door for us to get at those top nine or ten places, we are only six points behind the Barcodes, who travel to Goodison next month, ya just never know do ya? I'll put the hooch back in the cupboard, honest!
Posted
12/11/2023 at
14:00:02
Bubbles damn it. I want to see some bubbles Davo.
Posted
12/11/2023 at
14:06:20
I WILL have a Paqueta. Thank you! 1-0 Hammers
Posted
12/11/2023 at
14:13:12
Brighton one up as well.
Posted
12/11/2023 at
14:18:14
There was a question a few weeks back, ‘what other club can blow a three on one break?'': Hammers
Posted
12/11/2023 at
14:19:57
When is the last time all three promoted teams were relegated?
I can't remember it happening recently?
Posted
12/11/2023 at
14:28:52
Nunez with two goals chalked off due to offside. Love it.
Posted
12/11/2023 at
14:36:11
Don't worry Jamie. They will get lucky third time around
Posted
12/11/2023 at
14:45:23
To be fair Rob, the first offside was a fantastic bit of play by the shite. Nunez barely offside - barely!
The second was clearly offside, but another good run of play and a sick finish by Nunez.
Liverpool will get their "third time around" based upon what I've seen so far, quite unfortunately.
Posted
12/11/2023 at
14:46:29
Great second Villa goal by McGinn. Little drop of his left shoulder to leave a Fulham defender flat footed, then stroked home into the corner from the edge of the area.
Posted
12/11/2023 at
14:49:48
I go the John, come back, 1-0. Saw that one coming...
Posted
12/11/2023 at
14:49:55
Fucking Soucek gets knocked over and Hammers out of shape in back, one pass into the box blocked into Akonwiyi's path. 1-1
Posted
12/11/2023 at
15:18:28
West Ham did an Everton and dropped deep after taking the lead.
They look a lot better second half but so do Forest.
Don't know whether I would want a draw to keep them both around us or a West Hsm win to keep Forest below us.
Posted
12/11/2023 at
15:26:23
Nice goal by Elanga for Forest.
Came after an interesting ref moment at the other end, Bowen getting dragged back before the Forest player nips the ball off his toe, and Bowen goes flying into the area. No foul says the ref.
And now Bowen has his revenge! One of those classic headed goals defenders hate. Bowen in exactly the right spot, jumping very high, with three defenders jumping with him.
Posted
12/11/2023 at
15:32:24
Damn, Hammers fans were rather disappointed with Soucek before today. He could have made some friends back if that had gone in.
Posted
12/11/2023 at
15:38:14
Sheffield united equalise, and Brighton down to ten men. Webster sent off.
Posted
12/11/2023 at
15:41:09
Will Brighton develop eurosclerosis? Hope so.
Oh man, Soucek will get slated for that Two big misses from the six yard box.
Posted
12/11/2023 at
15:48:30
Ollie Watkins, about two yards from goal, right in the middle, puts a header wide. How he managed that, god knows?
Posted
12/11/2023 at
15:49:36
Finally. Good for him, you could see the relief on his face. Soucek. Hammers 3-2
Posted
12/11/2023 at
16:00:11
Noice weekend o' footy, it's bin.
Posted
12/11/2023 at
16:02:43
We'll finish Top 10 at this rate!
Posted
12/11/2023 at
16:12:58
Lurvely. You know, it has been so good I think I'll have a cup of coffee and hate on Chelsea for a couple.
Posted
12/11/2023 at
16:55:18
Nice wrestling VAR decision for City and a penalty.
Posted
12/11/2023 at
17:00:51
Both holding each other but Curacella a bit daft continuing to hold the shirt when Haaland is attacking the ball. Ref will probably even it up in a bit.
Posted
12/11/2023 at
17:05:02
Oh that was so close to brilliant by City. The dribble and cross were electric.
Posted
12/11/2023 at
17:09:09
Job opening at left-back for City. Turned and toasted.
Posted
12/11/2023 at
17:15:24
It's a good game, both attacking with electric pace. A few more goals in this one.
Posted
12/11/2023 at
17:29:07
Is it only me that thinks that that West Ham goalie sounds like a bit of a tit??
Posted
12/11/2023 at
17:29:15
The PL has had some fantastic matches from clubs at both ends and it is just past the quarter mark.
Posted
12/11/2023 at
17:34:01
Michael (42) but no wrestling VAR decision for Chelsea's equaliser with the same fullback holding the City defender and making space for Silva to score,weak refereeing after the penalty wth three free kicks for Chelsea and an identical foul refused for City.
A good game and more goals to come, I doubt if Cty's No.3 will last long in the second half.
Posted
12/11/2023 at
17:35:54
Mark, which bit?
Posted
12/11/2023 at
17:42:36
Haaland, in with his crotch!
Or would that be 'Dick-ball'???
Sorry.
Posted
12/11/2023 at
17:42:47
Just noticed that was Gvardiol that let the pass into the box unchallenged for Chelsea's goal
Posted
12/11/2023 at
17:44:29
Scored with his scrote, VAR disallowed for ball ball?
Posted
12/11/2023 at
17:48:14
Dive by Gvardiol. Just an outstretched leg.
I mean, that was not sufficient contact, Shirley?
Posted
12/11/2023 at
17:51:11
Will, the pinky bit around the nipple
Tough crowd in here tonight…
Posted
12/11/2023 at
17:52:18
Brighton failed to beat Sheff Utd at home. Not won in 6 games going back two months.
And we were scared shitless of them at home. Two points thrown away.
Posted
12/11/2023 at
17:53:55
Doku booked for a dive. No contact at all.
And he was very selfish taking the shot with 3 citizens storming in.
Now pulled by Pep.
Posted
12/11/2023 at
18:02:57
Hand? Head obviously on replay. Sorry, i hate Chelsea
Oh and late on the Haaland goal but I'll go with a Tip-in.
Posted
12/11/2023 at
18:04:14
Last two goals ; Jackson, Bollock.
Posted
12/11/2023 at
18:10:06
Wasn't Jackson Bollock a painter?
Posted
12/11/2023 at
18:10:45
I highly recommend Steve Naifeh and Greg Smith's biography of Jackson Pollock, what a fecking life and brilliant reproductions
Posted
12/11/2023 at
18:11:30
Oh dear, that was a bad miss
Posted
12/11/2023 at
18:16:13
Jackson Bollock did dick-painting. The true automatism technique was him running off his penis and taking a dip shaking it around. Is that covered in the book?
Posted
12/11/2023 at
18:19:57
It's all in there mate
Posted
12/11/2023 at
18:20:42
3-4. What a game. Carragher despondent.
Posted
12/11/2023 at
18:20:49
Rodri!
Posted
12/11/2023 at
18:21:21
That deflection was gross.
Posted
12/11/2023 at
18:22:40
Michael @ 54 -
Yes I am. And don't call me Shirley.
Posted
12/11/2023 at
18:23:46
Cruel way to lose a great game
Posted
12/11/2023 at
18:23:57
Silva has had a rocky day/game
Posted
12/11/2023 at
18:25:39
Absolutely gorgeous day here
Posted
12/11/2023 at
18:27:05
Big pen there! Chelsea surely to tie? What a game!
Posted
12/11/2023 at
18:27:33
Smart play by Broja.
Posted
12/11/2023 at
18:28:46
Wow
Posted
12/11/2023 at
18:29:16
What a great pen by Palmer. What a game jeez.
Posted
12/11/2023 at
18:29:27
Carragher comes alive again.
Posted
12/11/2023 at
18:29:55
Step up Mr Palmer
Posted
12/11/2023 at
18:30:14
Carragher is so excited
Posted
12/11/2023 at
18:30:16
Cool pen from the boy, under pressure.
Posted
12/11/2023 at
18:30:22
Really good match even considering Chelsea may get a point.
Posted
12/11/2023 at
18:30:45
Chelsea don't half get the pens
Posted
12/11/2023 at
18:31:21
He needs a new face Cole Palmer
Posted
12/11/2023 at
18:31:54
How is that not a red on Sterling? Went all the way through the Foden. Looked a red to me.
Posted
12/11/2023 at
18:32:46
Foden doesn't deserve an article in front of his name for the record...
Posted
12/11/2023 at
18:33:48
One of those has to be a red
Posted
12/11/2023 at
18:35:30
Brilliant tackle fest at the end.
Posted
12/11/2023 at
18:35:59
Look what Poch has done in his short time at Chelsea. He will turn things around and they'll be a major force again very soon.
Great coach.
Posted
12/11/2023 at
18:36:41
what a tackle that was
Posted
12/11/2023 at
18:38:28
I don't think that Poch has done a lot at Chelsea to be honest. It will be a while before Chelsea can compete at the top, like us that have bought too much, bought some shite, wasted money, and tied players down to massively long contracts
Posted
12/11/2023 at
18:39:05
Oh God, I hate Micah Richards.
Posted
12/11/2023 at
18:39:48
I'd like to know where he got 8 minutes from. There were no injuries or time wasting and Var was pretty quick.
Posted
12/11/2023 at
18:47:30
Mark @ 55 - nice.
Posted
12/11/2023 at
18:51:47
It never was "Shirley". He said surely.
Posted
12/11/2023 at
19:00:34
How come Sky have the Saturday lunch-time match in the next set of fixtures? I thought that was reserved for TNT? I won't mention the fixture, but it could help decide where the title might be heading.
On another subject, just properly looked at the whole table and 'crisis club' Man Utd lie in 6th place, just 7 points off the leaders! It's going to be one of those mad seasons, isn't it?
Posted
12/11/2023 at
19:29:00
Barry, it already is...
Posted
12/11/2023 at
19:30:37
Very true! Will @96
Posted
12/11/2023 at
19:39:49
Nice one, Poch just said fuck on 5Live
Posted
12/11/2023 at
21:24:17
Game currently on TNT 1: Inter Milan v Frosinone.
Just before half-time Dimarco scores a “Wonder goal†— according to the commentators, the best goal they've ever seen. Halfway through the second half, they are still drooling over it. Remind you of anyone, making their debut for Everton?…
https://onefootball.com/en/news/dimarco-segna-da-centrocampo-eurogol-in-inter-frosinone-video-38553143
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=zmSYlZjrDFQ
Posted
12/11/2023 at
22:34:16
An almost forgotten Sigurdsson super strike that, Rob.
Early in the era of the new-owner expectations, that never really happened. Seems a long time back now.
Posted
13/11/2023 at
01:45:49
Michael #1,
I think the VAR is a "terms of reference" issue in that they can only make recommendations for offside, or fouls in the box, not on every decision the ref makes, otherwise a game would last for hours.
But as in this case, it lead to a goal wrongly being scored from a clear and obvious error – so it begs the question as to what use is it then?
Posted
13/11/2023 at
07:50:24
I was too caught up in Everton.
On a separate note, it's Bobby Charlton's funeral today.
A fine servant to the game of football that we all love and follow.
Posted
14/11/2023 at
13:24:05
Ingerlund U17s level it up with a nice one two outside the box. 1-1
Posted
14/11/2023 at
13:51:47
Ndala with a fantastic curling shot over defenders into the side netting just a few feet off the by-line 2-1 England
Posted
15/11/2023 at
19:46:52
Anyone have a link by any chance for the Cray Valley - Charlton match?
Posted
15/11/2023 at
20:37:52
Paul, it's on BBC 2 Wales, I don't know where else though.
Posted
15/11/2023 at
20:59:20
Cheers Ray!
Posted
15/11/2023 at
21:00:07
Ah, pretty much all over, I see, shame
Posted
17/11/2023 at
21:03:59
The England game is exciting.
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1 Posted 11/11/2023 at 13:29:17
Just seen that in the Wolves v Spurs game, but no attempt by the VAR to intervene and correct the wrong decision by the ref in giving the corner. They didn't score but surely this is equally as egregious as a clearly wrong offside decision?