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Amadou Onana and Jarrad Branthwaite will both be assessed before Sean Dyche decides on his starting XI

Everton head south this weekend for a third successive Premier League away game in the Capital as they take on Crystal Palace.

The Blues beat Brentford in September, vanquished West Ham a fortnight ago and would notch a hat-trick of wins over London clubs if they can win at Selhurst Park for the first time since September 2020.

Then, under Carlo Ancelotti when departed stars Richarlison and with James Rodriguez wearing Everton jerseys, they won 2-1, with Dominic Calvert-Lewin opening the scoring. They lost twice there the following season under Rafael Benitez and Frank Lampard but ground out a goalless draw with Dyche at the helm last April.

The Toffees' No.9 bagged the winner at the London Stadium but didn't register in either the Carabao Cup win over Burnley or the draw with Brighton last time out so he will, no doubt, be itching to get back among the goals.

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Sean Dyche will see how both Amadou Onana and Jarrad Branthwaite fare in training on Friday before deciding on his starting XI. 

The Belgium international was forced to sit out of last weekend's 1-1 draw with Brighton having played the last few matches with a tight calf but has returned to full training.

Branthwaite, meanwhile, picked up what the manager described as a "knock", presumably against the Seagulls, and will also be assessed during the final training session at Finch Farm while Abdoulaye Doucouré is hoping to shake off a bout of illness.

"We have a couple of knocks with Amadou and Jarrad's got a  bit of a knock," Dyche said in his press conference today. "But we're not expecting too many problems. Doucs had a bit of sickness but they've all been on the grass today so we're hopeful on them.    

"[Onana] has managed that well. He's done well to get through the games that he [has done]. Hopefully we've managed that well as well and [the injury] has calmed down. 

Seamus Coleman came through another hour of reserve team action earlier this week and is not yet sufficiently match-fit to start but he will be hoping that a place on the bench could be imminent. 

Roy Hodgson, meanwhile, will be without forward Michael Olise who isn't likely to return until after the international break because of a thigh problem; likewise James Tomkinson who has a calf issue. Jesurun Rak-Sakyi and goalkeeper Dean Henderson, who also have thigh injuries, are also ruled out with no projected return date.

Usually a difficult proposition in front of their rowdy home fans, Palace have only won once at home so far this season, that a 3-2 win over Wolves in early September. Two of their main danger men were on the scoresheet that day – Odsonne Edouard scored a brace and Eberechi Eze, who this week signed a new contract with the Eagles, nabbed what proved to be the winner.

They sat in 7th place that day but, having been held to goalless draws by Fulham and Nottingham Forest and then beaten by Tottenham on their home patch, Palace have slipped to 11th. 

Having seen how his charges performed in their last two games on the road, Dyche will be confident Everton can get something out of this game to take back to Merseyside, particularly if he can name a full-strength side with Onana and Branthwaite included.

Kick-off: 3 pm, Saturday 11 November 2023
Referee: Sam Barrott
Andy Madley
Last Time:  
Crystal Palace 0 - 0 Everton

Predicted Line-up: Pickford, Young, Tarkowski, Branthwaite, Mykolenko, Onana, Garner, Harrison, McNeil, Doucouré, Calvert-Lewin


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Joe McMahon
1 Posted 09/11/2023 at 21:25:01
We need them both fit, and that's not an understatement.
Lee Courtliff
2 Posted 09/11/2023 at 21:43:29
That's a lot of height to lose against a team like Palace, let's hope they're all fit.
Paul Birmingham
3 Posted 09/11/2023 at 22:16:09
Agreed, we need these players able to start, v Palace.

If they do, I fancy Everton to beat Palace, and continue the good away form.


John Raftery
4 Posted 09/11/2023 at 22:29:32
There was an inevitable price for prioritising the League Cup. Losing Onana for one game may have cost us 2 points last Saturday. Arguably that was a price worth paying. It sounds like he will feature on Saturday but it would hardly be a surprise if he is replaced after 70 minutes.

I noticed Branthwaite limping towards the end of the Brighton game. He would be a bigger loss at Palace. So far, Dyche has been keen to keep what he regards as his strongest XI on the park. With 8 games in 28 days in December, the need to rotate players will be obvious. Otherwise, we can expect injuries to take their toll as they already are at several other clubs.

Mike Gaynes
5 Posted 09/11/2023 at 23:30:05
Hope they're both ready to go, but we do have adequate cover if necessary in Gana and Keane.

Against a faster club they'd be vulnerable, but Palace doesn't have much pace up top. Mark Édouard tightly in the box, keep Eze out of the middle, and we should be fine.

Derek Knox
6 Posted 09/11/2023 at 23:52:32
It always seems to happen when we appear to be getting somewhere with results, we pick up injuries to the most valuable players. Especially in positions where we have cover (but hope they won't be used). No names, no pack drill!

Palace are a strange team in many ways, and capable of almost beating anyone on their day. So we need to turn up with our best 11, and hope everyone is 'at the races' for hopefully 3 points.

If this leaked information is true, we only get 6 points deducted instead of 12, albeit not till the season after next, we must try and finish as high as we can. I watched Luton against the RS and they look no mugs either. So treat every game as a must-win or draw at the very least.

Bill Watson
7 Posted 10/11/2023 at 00:09:19
Derek #6,

If any part of a points deduction is suspended, that means that, if no other indiscretions occur within the suspension period, then the deduction will be wiped off.

Karl Masters
8 Posted 10/11/2023 at 06:52:31
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Karl Masters
9 Posted 10/11/2023 at 09:22:23
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Derek Knox
10 Posted 10/11/2023 at 10:39:58
Bill W @7, thanks for that, Bill, you are obviously better informed than most of us. I like many others, petitioned the Premier League on several issues, one being the alleged leak of any decision, and also any profligacy and total waste of money, had nothing whatsoever to do with the fans.

Yet ultimately any sanctions would be penalising the ones that care, and not the incompetent Board and Owner. Hopefully, like in Mythology and the Phoenix (not Peter Kay's Club) we will rise from the ashes better and stronger!

Nurse, Nurse, I am hallucinating again! :-)

Jim Bennings
11 Posted 10/11/2023 at 10:51:21
Hopefully a good positive result tomorrow heading off into what is yet another pointless international break at a key stage of the season.

Palace are a strange side, they don't score many goals but at the same time they seem to be a really hard team to score against, especially at Selhurst Park and more so since Roy has come back to the fore.

This is a game we can win and should be targeting three points in however, albeit they will say the same but that's not our problem.

We need to go there and be compact but start posing more of a threat in games and would be nice to see if Dyche starts trusting the likes of Beto to offer more by giving him a bit longer when fresh legs are often required.

Kevin Edward
12 Posted 10/11/2023 at 11:01:43
I'm hoping that our run of successful away days in London continues. Palace have been very good at home but this season they are very much beatable if we play well.

So for me, it's up to the team: put in a shift and be clinical in front of goal, keep it tight at the back with no stupid mistakes, and the points are in the bag.

We are improving, the Manager needs to be smart with team selection if injuries are becoming an issue. More ‘new improved' Everton please.

Up the Toffees!

David Bromwell
13 Posted 10/11/2023 at 11:52:28
I didn't realise that we have 8 games in 28 days during December, John @4. With our small squad and with suspensions and injuries, likely we will find that a struggle.

So, as others have said, I believe it's important to begin giving some of the fringe players meaningful game time, not the odd 5 minutes at the end of a game. And for this game, I would start Patterson, and give Young a break.

Although Young has had a mixed season so far, his ability to play in either full-back position and on the wing makes him very useful.

And hopefully this will be the game when we finally give Calvert-Lewin better service – wingers and Pickford, please note.

Jimmy Salt
16 Posted 10/11/2023 at 12:59:25
I can't help wondering if late or no substitutions will be contributing to injuries and indeed results.

Hope in wrong.

Jay Harris
19 Posted 10/11/2023 at 14:28:56
Disappointed to see Eze and Olise are available now. That gives our RB position even more importance.

I thought the Young - Patterson combo worked better than the Young - Harrison combo the other week so I would consider that. Harrison has not impressed me that much and I would feel more confident with Young and Patterson ganging up on Eze.

Left flank looks more solid and if Onana is fit midfield looks good.

Difficult to predict but hopeful of 3 points.

Tony Everan
20 Posted 10/11/2023 at 14:31:43
Here was the Everton team in our last visit to Palace in April when we drew 0-0;

Jordan Pickford
Michael Keane
Vitaliy Mykolenko
James Tarkowski
James Garner
Mason Holgate
Idrissa Gueye
Dominic Calvert-Lewin
Demarai Gray
Alex Iwobi
Dwight McNeil

I think we are stronger now with a better more balanced team, options off the bench too. We are more settled, getting used to the system and believe in it more. It's a good opportunity for a win so I'm going for a narrow victory:

Palace 1 Everton 2


Rob Halligan
21 Posted 10/11/2023 at 14:32:19
Jim #11……

Whilst we are all peeved off with these international breaks, it's hardly a pointless one, seeing as the games are European Championship qualifying games.

Granted, both England games are against Malta and North Macedonia, games Southgate could probably pick 11 players from League One and still win, but there are also qualifying games all over the world, using players from the Premier League and Championship.

Unfortunately, these games have to be played at some time, unless anyone can come up with a better alternative as to when they should be played?

Tony Abrahams
22 Posted 10/11/2023 at 14:34:52
Nobody really knows what this weekend is going to bring, although 3 points for The Toffees would definitely not go amiss. 🤞
John Raftery
25 Posted 10/11/2023 at 15:44:47
Jay (19) Harrison has started six games in all competitions of which we have won four, lost one and drawn one. While he did not have his best game against Brighton he has made a contribution to a successful run of results compared with those in the period before he played.

Plainly Dyche does not yet fully trust Patterson as a preferred option when we are defending a narrow lead. There is a touch of the headless chicken in his game. That said, I would have brought him on in the closing stages last week, when Harrison was clearly tiring.

Jay Harris
26 Posted 10/11/2023 at 16:08:26
Sorry, John, he just doesn’t do anything for me.

Even when he has played relatively well, his end product is poor. If Danjuma was on form, I would have liked to see him given a run but he doesn't seem to have found his form yet. Against Palace and Eze, I would prefer Young and Patterson.

Mick O'Malley
33 Posted 10/11/2023 at 17:35:21
Selhurst Park is a tough place to go and get a result but we seem to be better away from home so let's hope Onana and Branthhwaite are passed fit and we get a victory UTFT!!
Billy Shears
34 Posted 10/11/2023 at 17:46:22
The Blues to sneak another one away from Home, helped by magnificent away support...1-2.
Rob Hooton
36 Posted 10/11/2023 at 17:56:13
If Onana and Branthwaite are both fit, then I fancy us to win this. If they aren't, then a draw seems more likely. We definitely missed Onana against Brighton and I think many of us may have underestimated what he brings to the team - though he had been improving after some anonymous performances.

Won't be easy, but we seem to be on the up.

If anybody has a ticket and can't make it, then I'll happily buy one! I'm fed up sitting with the home fans when we're away and will wait to join my fellow blues one fine day, sitting on one's hands isn't easy!

I'll keep out of the other talk, or I'll get myself in trouble… I'm here for the football, the stadium will fall silent before the match - as it should.

Stu Darlington
37 Posted 10/11/2023 at 18:43:42
The frustrating thing for me is the number of good chances we create that are not converted into goals.
If we miss our chances against Palace they are quite capable of sneaking a goal particularly if we surrender the majority of possession to them like we have done in recent games.
Especially if Branthwaite is out and Keane plays!
Dominate midfield,take our chances and we come away with 3 points,sit back and watch them attack us and we could struggle!
Christopher Timmins
38 Posted 10/11/2023 at 18:59:36
Given the recent performance of both sides this is a game where we should be expecting to obtain a positive result.

Peter Moore
41 Posted 10/11/2023 at 19:48:58
Here's hoping the recovering lads make it and stay fit, Dom bags one, Beto comes on and bags his first prem goal and we go into the break looking up not down. Don't want much do I?!

It can be done and shall be done, they can overcome, come on you blue boys! Woy is an auld boy with a great career in management, but our Sean is on the up, coming into his managerial prime, we must prevail!

The uncertainty is palpable, but it's there for the taking. Take it Everton. UTFT.

Richard Duff
49 Posted 10/11/2023 at 21:40:58
Normally a fixture that represents a pause in proceedings, nothing really gained, nothing really lost. This time feels different.

Neither team wants possession but Palace are at home so will have to attack to satisfy the crowd. We're top 8 on away form and have the counter attack speed and strength and guile to take advantage.

If we score first we win. If we equalise, we also win.

Bill Fairfield
50 Posted 10/11/2023 at 21:58:11
Wonder what will happen if we go 1-0 up. Will it be defend to the end, because Palace are a bit of an outfit?
Paul Kossoff
51 Posted 10/11/2023 at 23:37:00
If we attack them, we will win. If Dyche has us defending a point and trying to nick it, we will lose.

Two-nil to us if we have a go. Coyb 👮👮👮

Paul Ferry
52 Posted 10/11/2023 at 23:46:12
I don't think that we will be set up to attack Paul (51). Nor is it the case that we will lose if we do not.

What is it exactly that makes you think that? What have you seen in Palace so far this season at Selhurst Park to make you think that?

Palace have scored four times in five home games (three of those goals were scored in one game). They have not scored in three of those games.

Kieran Kinsella
53 Posted 11/11/2023 at 02:01:23
Is there still a Seventh Day Adventist Church a few doors down from Selhurst Park?

I remember going there many times in the 90s, Crystal Palace or Wimbledon and for that church their Holy day of obligation was Saturday and they'd always be there exasperated that fans had filled up the parking lot before their service.

Steve Brown
54 Posted 11/11/2023 at 06:35:24
It depends on the gameplan Dyche adopts. If we have 36% possession and counter-attack with intelligence as we did against West Ham, we have a chance.

But, if we have 20% possession and aimlessly hoof long balls to clear defence, then it will be a long afternoon. This was the approach we took in the 2nd half against Brighton and it was a step backwards on the evolution of the team.

The difference between the two approaches could be if Onana plays, as he has done a good job recently of receiving the ball from the defence and initiating forward moves.

Bob Parrington
55 Posted 11/11/2023 at 07:09:40
Looking at the home game with Brighton, it showed (1) that you can have only 20% of the play, counter-attack, and still perhaps get to the end of the game without conceding…

But the further back you go and still allow the opposition to have >80% of the possession and get a little wiser or luckier (as in the case of Brighton), you will concede at least 1 and possibly 2 goals in the dying minutes.

Against Palace, we should high press but maintain the structure at the back that frustrates the crap out of the opposition.

Forecast: Palace 0 - 2 Everton

Mark Murphy
56 Posted 11/11/2023 at 07:14:01
Kieran yes, there is. It’s just before the Prince George where loads of blues go pre match.
Sam Hoare
57 Posted 11/11/2023 at 07:52:13
People seem to still have their knickers in a twist about the Brighton match. Maybe this will help. Dyche's record at Everton when scoring first:

14 games where EFC have scored first under Dyche.

Wins: 10
Draws: 4
Losses: 0

That ranks very highly for a lower-half team so I say he keeps up that tactic.

No doubt we can and should do better with the ball than we did against Brighton but, as someone who is very into statistics, I don't give a stuff about possession by itself. I do care about how many chances each team is creating with the possession they have. If we manage to create (and hopefully convert!) more chances than Palace, I'll be happy enough.

Expect Onana to come back in if fit. Eze is back for Palace which is a shame, he will be instrumental for them.

Colin Glassar
58 Posted 11/11/2023 at 07:54:58
Brent Stephens
59 Posted 11/11/2023 at 08:00:17
As long as there's a possibility of relegation, I want Dyche to continue to play the safe game (as far as necessary), garnering enough points to pull clear and stay clear of the Bottom 3. Premier League survival over attractive football, if there has to be a choice.

When we're clear of the threat of relegation, then and only then will I want to see more attractive football. Whether Dyche can deliver safety and then attractive football remains to be seen. All subject, of course, to any points penalty!

Danny O’Neill
60 Posted 11/11/2023 at 08:20:03
Clear blue skies over London this morning with a bit of frost on the the ground earlier. Getting ready to head in.

This is always a reflective weekend. A pause at 11 am. Remember. The first minute is for those who went to war and conflict. The second minute is for those who didn't come home. Cenotaph tomorrow.

Anyway, see you in southeast London. The 1878 Originals Banners out loud and proud.

Spirit of the Blues. Forever Everton.

Steve Brown
61 Posted 11/11/2023 at 08:22:58
Sam, we are not getting our knickers in a twist. We simply don't agree with you.

The only time we posed any threat in the second half was when we began to push on after Brighton equalised. They began to fall back to their weak defensive shape and we put them under pressure.

We only drew a game we should have won. If that is the rationale for continuing with those tactics, it explains why we'll probably finish 16th in the league.

Bob Parrington
62 Posted 11/11/2023 at 08:23:37
Don't get me wrong. The majority of Brighton's possession was sideways passing as they regularly could not find a way through our well organised defence. Their main threat was known to be through our left with Mitoma and our perceived weakness in our right-sided defence.

We did well for almost all of the game but lost 2 points in the final minutes and could have been more. Okay, their goal was massively lucky. To get that kind of perfect trajectory from off Young's knee was sheer luck. Football gods saying "Hold on, Everton. Don't get ahead of yourselves" kind of stuff.

I think Dyche is doing well and we will end up mid-table this season. Looking forward to making a trip over to an early game in the new stadium at Bramley-Moore Dock as part of a family holiday. There might be 12 of us. So I hope enough tickets will be available.

Robert Tressell
63 Posted 11/11/2023 at 08:26:48
After Bournemouth, Palace are our closest match in terms of squad quality.

It should be a fairly even game. Whoever scores first will probably win. It might well be a nil-nil draw.

Danny O’Neill
65 Posted 11/11/2023 at 08:30:38
There are people making a 450-mile round trip today. I for once have a mere 30 miles to travel.

Others travelling from other parts of the country and no doubt the globe.

None of us will be going there with a negative attitude. We go to win.

Just like we always have done supporting Everton and playing football.

Sorry. In the zone.

Andrew Clare
66 Posted 11/11/2023 at 08:53:27
Good luck to the blues today and I hope the marvellous travelling fans have a brilliant time. It's always a tough game at Palace but I am sure if we get our tactics right we can win.
Jerome Shields
68 Posted 11/11/2023 at 09:33:22
Good Luck, Everton.
Neil Copeland
69 Posted 11/11/2023 at 09:38:14
Danny #65, hope to see you there, are you meeting at the King George?

Do you know if there is any disruption to the trains in London today?

Jerome Shields
70 Posted 11/11/2023 at 09:44:10
Everton need to keep their shape more and not rely on defending deep. It is very important that the press and a threat are maintained throughout a game to prevent the opposition defensive line pushing forward.
Frank Sheppard
71 Posted 11/11/2023 at 09:51:43
Tricky away fixture. A good test for our improving squad and improving mentality. Should expect at least a point, be nice to give Palace some gloom to mull over in the annoying international break. COYB.
Mark Murphy
72 Posted 11/11/2023 at 10:09:27
Prince George, Neil!


On the high street Thornton Heath.

Neil Copeland
73 Posted 11/11/2023 at 10:11:38
Mark, cheers I knew King George didn’t sound right!

Derek Knox
74 Posted 11/11/2023 at 10:18:12
Neil @ 73, you must have had the 'Madness of King George' on your mind ! :-)

All the very best thoughts for an Everton win today, but will reluctantly accept a draw, also to all you travelling Blues. God Bless You All !

COYB 💙💙👍

Jimmy Carr
75 Posted 11/11/2023 at 10:18:20
Tailor-made for a Dyche hit-and-run. 1-0 to us.

Edit: 3-0 Palace if Keane starts instead of Branthwaite.

Terry Farrell
76 Posted 11/11/2023 at 10:26:29
Same request as last run of games. Patterson in for Young and a ref who treats both teams the same!

I had a great seat on the half-way line for the last two games and Patterson was up against Pacqueta and Kudus and did really well. Young did okay for a while but he is slow… end of!

Dave Abrahams
77 Posted 11/11/2023 at 10:37:59
I've got to agree with Steve's two posts (54-61), we just can't be as passive as we were versus Brighton, especially at home.

We started well, attacking them, and could have been ahead before we scored. Then, when we did shut up shop, we hardly attacked until Brighton scored the equaliser which should have surprised nobody.

Brighton are a decent team but they were in a lean spell when we played them and we treated them with too much respect. Crystal Palace will be well organised defensively as we will be but Everton have to attack them aggressively, at times, not only when we go behind.

We can win there today if we want it badly enough; we are certainly good enough.

Danny O’Neill
78 Posted 11/11/2023 at 10:44:24
Seems okay right now, Neil.

I'm at Wembley (sigh) and yes will be there.

I think it's the Prince George but message me.

Alan J Thompson
79 Posted 11/11/2023 at 10:45:10
It won't surprise me if Young, Keane and Gana start and we sit back, parking the bus, hoping for something from the long hoof.
Sam Hoare
80 Posted 11/11/2023 at 10:54:11
Steve @61,

What chances did Brighton create? Even less than us. I've no issue with making it a low-chance affair once we're in the lead.

Did you read my post? Seems very clear that this rationale has proved highly successful. If we were scoring first and then consistently drawing or losing, that might be different. The proof is in the pudding!

As for finishing 16th, I'd probably take it. Lampard's efforts to retain more possession had us footballing our way straight to the Championship. Of course, I'd love us to be playing better football and controlling matches at some point in the future but it feels like some people want us to run before we can walk.

If we can grind our way to 40-45 points and 15th-16th, that will signify some much-needed progress and some stability.

Tony Byrne
81 Posted 11/11/2023 at 10:58:24
0:1 Everton today, gut feeling all week.
Steve Brown
82 Posted 11/11/2023 at 11:15:23
They only needed one, Sam, and they got it.
Sam Hoare
83 Posted 11/11/2023 at 11:22:45
Steve, that wasn't a chance (I'd define a chance as a shot or opportunity to shoot at goal). It was a cross, that took a cruel (from our perspective) deflection. Can't really legislate for that.

Simply put, I'm happy with any tactic that sees us getting more chances and better chances than the opposition. If that happens over the course of a season, then we'll end up closer to 10th than 20th.

Neil Copeland
84 Posted 11/11/2023 at 11:35:15
Derek #74, ha ha sounds about right mate!

Terry # 76, I hope you and the family are well. Agreed re Patterson v Young

Danny # 78, cheers, on my way!

Brian Hennessy
85 Posted 11/11/2023 at 13:02:29
I think we will win today.

Feeling confident after what I saw last night from the other team in blue in my life - my local Waterford FC. After 9 failed play-off attempts in-a-row, they sealed promotion last night back to the Irish Premier Division with a dramatic extra time win against local rivals Cork City. Maybe former Waterford player Bobby Charlton was looking doing from above!

You could write some book (or Netflix doc) on the goings on at this club over the last decade, not least that the Waterford FC owner Andy Pilley (former Fleetwood Town Chairman) has been jailed for 13 years for mis-selling energy contracts involving three of his companies.

We had a brief stint with former Toffee's Kevin Sheedy and Mike Newell in charge which ended in tears. There was also a 'rebranding' which cost the club it's place in the Europa League.

Waterford qualified for the Europa League by finishing 4th in the 2018 League of Ireland Premier Division, but were ruled by UEFA to have not passed the "3-year rule" as the club were reformed in 2016. As a result, the berth was given to the fifth-placed team of the league, St Patrick's Athletic.

That's just a taste of the goings on, some of which make Everton look well-run by comparison. Anyway. We are back where we belong as of last night which gives me hope that Everton can someday return where we belong – at the top of English football, in the not-too-distant future.

Terry Farrell
86 Posted 11/11/2023 at 13:19:25
Hi Neil, we are mates thanks and same wishes for you and yours.

Enjoy the game today with our fabulous away fans. Don't know if you and Danny have any authority over the song sheets but we need some for Calvert-Lewin, Tarkowski and Branthwaite…

I was born in Carlisle, Cumbria.
I was signed by Everton FC
I was loaned to Holland PSV
I was sold but I didn't want to leave
But it's alright now 'cos Jarrad is back
It's alright, Jarrad Branthwaite is Class Class Class

Mick Davies
87 Posted 11/11/2023 at 13:54:43
I watched a video of yesterday's training at Finch Farm and Jarrad Branthwaite looked okay.
Jim Lloyd
88 Posted 11/11/2023 at 13:55:22
Whatever the team is, they'll have a tremendous 12th man.

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