Jack Harrison eying up his future at Everton

On an appropriate deal the likes of Harrison could make for a useful squad player, always professional and reliable but I think for the starting XI we need a level above.

“when you're doing absolutely everything you can and it's still not coming off…”

That's called reaching your ceiling.

Everton are now performing at an upper mid table level and unfortunately Jack is discovering that he's simply not got enough to offer that. He is suited to the fuzzy zone of bottom 5 Premier League and top 5 Championship and will not be part of Everton s upward trajectory.

Lovely bloke, nice hair, tries hard and gives his all but no longer good enough for what we want or need. No shame in that, just reality.

On a free, he might have been a boring but reasonably sensible move. For a fee and relatively high wage, it makes no sense.

There will be much better available.

Now he might just regret it. The manager and DoF who signed him to that deal are long gone and he clearly no longer has a place with them -- or with us.

We need better players.

His main contribution to the team seems to have been as Alcaraz's translator. £90,000 a week to speak Spanish.

If I read about that one more time, my head is going to explode.

The same to a degree with Lindstrom, though I believe there is a talented player there, also given that he is not a winger, yet gets used as one!

Lmao… sad but accurate.

I don't know if you are aware of it, but he was acting as a translator for Charly Alcaraz! :-)

Same goes with Lindstrom. Both these players are getting games but are unable to impact games consistently.

Sorry Jack that's not you. Thanks for your hard-working efforts.

Maybe Kinnear's two transfer recruits from Leeds can reassess his worth for £90,000 a week – surely Leeds are making a contribution to these wages in his current loan deal?

Everton could not afford his wages, especially for what they got in return on his first loan, never mind the second.

Since Moyes has arrived and he's on the left, performances have improved slightly. I do think a full season under Moyes and he would start to show his Leeds form.

Sadly I don't think he will be here next season.

Sorry but midfielders who neither assist nor score seem to be a thing with Everton these days. Lindstrom is another one.
Unless we find another Lukaku, we need midfielders who can contribute to the attack, not just work hard and cover the full backs.

A non-goal scoring, non-creating forward is no use to anyone. He's more likely to be in the Championship next season, than getting an England call-up.

Everton have paid him £9M in wages for frankly little in return. He can be added to Maupay as a poor signing by Thewell, with little in return.

Don't give me the old chestnut that he works hard or get sucked in by his kind words. For a Premier League footballer and football stats, that's a given.

The case for the Prosecution. Very little return from a player, who should be contributing more in the opposition half. His quality on the ball is poor far too often. There is no consistency in his performances.

So I judge guilty my Lord. It's a no from me.

What are the chances of him going back to Leeds, scoring against us and getting man of the match now?!!

If we sign Carlos on a permanent deal, Lindstrom could be cover and also cover our new wingers. But Harrison looks like a workhorse with no real flair.

Living in West Yorkshire, I know a lot of Leeds fans. None think he is a vital player.

Reading this thread, it would appear we will have half the squad replaced, not so, we will do well to have three maybe four new players in the squad.

Clearly, a number of the players out of contract in June
will still be with us for the 2025-26 season.

There's an argument that Dyche's role for him was perfect. Hard working, defensive winger. I'm not sure he's got anything more to offer than that at this level. You certainly wouldn't free him up for his attacking output - he can't create and he can't retain the ball. In fact his ability to lose an unloseable ball is incredible.

I really like the guy. You won't see many harder working players and especially not wingers. His attitude seems spot on.

Just not at this level. I could see him heading to a lower level top tier. The US, Australia, maybe Japan... though he might not even be up to that level.

As you say you can see how hard Jack works and how frustrated he gets when hardly anything comes off for him and his attitude is excellent but the end product is just not good enough even his defending.

His wages should enable us to get a younger, quicker and better winger in his place.

We have loanees and injuries that may be kept but others playing but not up to snuff have to be on the chopping block.

Harrison is a useful player but not a starter.

Doucoure is neither a great midfielder or striker but now may be his time to go.

With Chermiti, Broja, and Beto along with Calvert-Lewin it's a question of any two from four but I may be wrong.

Some have to go to maybe free up some cash for new additions.

Would certainly revisit Philogene for the right wing, should Ipswich go down, quick and skilful and a decent shot on him.

Hopefully the start of a rebuild, the likes of Harrison, Doucoure, Young will get a handshake and thanks at the end of the season.

I will give James Garner the benifit of the doubt, can pick a pass out but on many occasions seems to play a side or back pass, I would personally rather have Guaye and Iroegbunam in midfield, whether Garner slots in at right back, possibly, but I am still undecided on Garner, chances are Harrison Armstrong will be back from a loan spell and pushing for the midfield spot.

Beto and Calvert-Lewin let go as well, for £30 million do not see value in paying that for Beto, Chermiti looks a better prospect, big risk Broja staying fit but looks decent and if all the speculation about Tami Abraham are true, would take a punt on him rather than Beto.

Could be a very interesting summer and transfer window.

Players like Harrison and Lindstrom do a job. They might not take players on or score goals but they are important to a small average squad like ours.

We have steadily decreased quality and replaced it with work rate for a reason. The likes of Harrison and Lindstrom have been played to stop the opposition rather than create.

Both have the remaining games to prove to Moyes that they are worthy of a squad place as Ndiaye and McNeil are ahead of both.

It's easy saying "Just get rid", "Not good enough" etc. You don't get a lot of player for £20M in this day and age. We still aren't in a position to go out and spend loads on players. I wouldn't be surprised if Moyes gave them both contracts.

So whether Everton are looking for a loan there is certainly an option there for a loan to buy, with his parent club being owned by The Friedkin Group.

Maybe Moyes can work some magic and the same with Lindstrom otherwise both will be heading away from Everton in the summer.

I would certainly give Gueye an extra year contract.

Supposedly Leeds, Newcastle and West Ham are all in for him as well.

Also it is frustrating re James Garner but his game doesn't seem to be progressing, although injuries may have hampered him?

Wish I could offer nothing creatively and still make a pass like this at 1:12

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I do like a weekend in the Eternal City. I was once fortunate enough to visit the Vatican on a Sunday and watched the Pope deliver Mass from his balcony. It was John Paul II at the time.

Robert well, tongue in cheek, it sounds like he's a perfect match. Or would have been for Everton of recent old!! I'm probably being unkind. Players do get injured. Sometimes it's luck, but I often wonder if it is also down to the training and recovery at Finch Farm.

Like I say, hopefully, moving forward, we will apply more scrutiny before signing a player.

Garner offers "little"?? I say he's a core piece that we should and will build around in the years to come. He won't score goals but he does everything else. And does it well.

Danny #37, I think I can top ya, mate. I performed with an otherwise all-Catholic chorale in St. Peter's. Not too many Jews have done that. (We also sang in Hebrew in the Sistine Chapel before the guards ran us out.)

If we had loads of money I would agree with you besides your assessment of James Garner.

I think he is a fantastic football who has the potential to play for England and Captain our club. He has quality delivery, reads the game well and plays holding midfield as good as anyone at the club. Keeping him fit is key.

I'm in the fan of Garner club. Will he start every week in an improved squad? Possibly not, but then who will?

But you're right, a healthy Garner is captain material.

Peter, most feel your sentiment, but I don't think there's any need to slate the player in that manner. Like many players, a victim of not being the standard we want or they type of player to get us where we want and being brought in because we were playing a numbers game to stay afloat.

The best description was lower Premier League, upper Championship and if / when he leaves Everton, he could be back at Leeds in the top flight next season.

Not sure it'll shatter the understanding - Pickford, Tarkowski, Branthwaite, Obrien, Mykolenko, Garner, Gana, Alcaraz, Ndiaye.

I've no anxiety over Keane, Holgate, Coleman, Young, Doucoure, Harrison, Broja, Begovic, Lindstrom being replaced.

If we brought in 6 or 7, then that would be fine. It'll be a mixture of signings, loans, frees. With perhaps some more to come in the January window, rather making it 10 from the get go.

Release:-
Doucoure - Alcaraz, Ndiaye, Armstrong, perhaps another
Holgate - not missed
Keane - back up centre back needed
Harrison - not missed, better out there
Broja - not missed, prospect to replace
Calvert-Lewin - new centre forward
Lindstrom - right winger
Young - not missed
Coleman - new right back
Begovic - 3rd keeper
Mangala - replace

The lad was quite shocked but said I'd better not tell any Evertonians that, to which he just laughed.

He's shit anyway, and has been nowhere near good enough.

Tierney, Lamptey, Will Hughes and Norgaard could add genuine Premier League quality and experience, then the money can be spent on wingers and a striker - the match winning positions.

I worry that we'll take the easy option and re-sign players that are too old and on the way down. This is the time to be fairly brutal, start from scratch and sell the dream of the new stadium to bring in players who otherwise wouldn't choose the 16th best team in the Premier League.

We do have a couple who have some of those attributes Pete @52. Ndiaye and Alcaraz spring to mind. McNeil when fit and firing, has goals in him. It all depends on who we surround them with, both in terms of either playing alongside or squad depth and competition.

Robert, I would suggest 4 or 5 is enough in one step as well as retaining some of those out of contract. As said above, too much change too quickly isn't always a good thing.

Mike @51. Sorry mate, "Premier League experience". Pet hate of mine. There's a big wide world of footballers out there too.

I'm saying that we spend money on the non-Premier League players to ensure their quality and make the Bosmans a bit of a safer bet.

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All round he is a poor player, yes he works hard but i'm sure we'd all work hard putting in effort, running up and down given the opportunity but with no real end product.

I think he'll end up at a promoted club next season if it's not at Leeds but he's certainly not what we require if we have aspirations next season to be in the top half.

Perhaps they know what they are doing?

Breath

We have a lot of players out of contract this summer. Moyes needs to wheel and deal because we've still got no money to spend. Hopefully he already has targets.

We still have a spine of a good side... Our back 5 is solid, but could do with Patterson kicking on. Midfield is the worry... Garner and Iroegbunam. Up front: McNeil, Beto, Ndiaye.

I think next season a mid-table finish will be great. Then the next season, the increased revenue from the new stadium can help us build...

Exactly. Moyes was a good choice to get out of the relegation dogfight, but can the new owners handle the baggage.

This summer Keane's contract is up, probably the last of the high earners that Koeman signed, so most of the baggage is gone, and the new owners are a lot more professional at running a football club.

Hopefully new stadium, new era for EFC.

The baggage I am talking about is the backroom baggage, which will be taking part in the transfer blitz (best description imo) that Everton are going to be involved in.

It most likely could be about power and who gets to the fore. With the limited funds due to the constraints on expenditure, that could be the most telling on the club's way forward. It will take know-how and good management to get that right.

Some players (as Iwobi showed) will do a lot better with better players around them.

It is up to Moyes and his assistants how to improve the side in stage 1.

Job done!

I think you are right. They will go for loan extensions and short term contracts. Anyone looking big wages will be gone.

Maybe Moyes will bring on young players. A few hardened professionals to boost the squad may arrive. Everton may be seen as a better career move which may help.

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Oh and pass those on to Lindstrom.

Do them individually jack and that's more passes than you have done all season.😀