
The new Everton Stadium at Bramley-Moore Dock has been confirmed as one of the three venues hosting an England v Australia Rugby League test match this autumn.
The Kangaroos will take on Shaun Wane’s side in three matches at Wembley, Bramley-Moore Dock and Headingley on 25 October, 1 November and 8 November, respectively.
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2 Posted 26/03/2025 at 12:14:49
If TFG had been in charge when BMD was being built, I'm sure it would have been built to suit.
3 Posted 26/03/2025 at 12:30:58
With so many rugby league fans attending from around the country, it might make the council get their finger out for better transport links to and from the stadium.
If this is a success, I can see the rugby magic weekend moving to our stadium next season, instead of Newcastle.
Better start swatting up on your rugby league, Danny! :-)
4 Posted 26/03/2025 at 12:32:01
5 Posted 26/03/2025 at 12:34:17
There'll be a huge influx of meaty 11 fingered guys in polyester, eating pies, all buying their own individual pints and impressing the ladies that weekend.
6 Posted 26/03/2025 at 12:42:20
Everton first for me everytime, but I do enjoy watching rugby league.
7 Posted 26/03/2025 at 12:52:23
Totally agree. It's in the perfect place for the magic weekend for all the teams. Except Catalan.
8 Posted 26/03/2025 at 13:37:18
9 Posted 26/03/2025 at 13:41:12
What next? The Coopers Hill cheese rolling and wake?
10 Posted 26/03/2025 at 13:54:29
I think it's great tbh. More stuff like this will raise our profile.
11 Posted 26/03/2025 at 14:10:46
There was a nice looking empty bar behind us and we ventured in to be told it was for Liverpool supporters only. I tried to explain it's a rugby match but the steward said it don't matter it's for Liverpool fans only. Even the bar staff were telling him to let us in!
12 Posted 26/03/2025 at 14:24:15
On my memory, it was a dump.
13 Posted 26/03/2025 at 14:26:02
14 Posted 26/03/2025 at 14:39:01
Not that I've followed the sport too much, but my closest team would be Widnes.
Noughton Park, I remember it (from the outside). Now the Halton Stadium, described as a purpose built rugby league, football and American football stadium.
Paul that's so French-ist. Or is it Catalan-is?!!
I think we could host NFL. Tottenham has just shy of 10,000 capacity on us.
I'm not sure whether safe standing can increase the capacity like it does in some European football stadiums.
Either way, it's great that we are going to use the stadium for other events outside of Everton and generate revenue. This and the Euros. Hopefully it's just the start.
15 Posted 26/03/2025 at 14:47:26
I should've asked for a fucking stepladder let alone their autographs!
16 Posted 26/03/2025 at 14:49:31
His car was recognisable by the words "Be a flyer with Martin Offiah" appearing on the sides!!
17 Posted 26/03/2025 at 14:53:38
Been to all the old grounds like Knowsley Road, Naughton Park, Fartown and the magnificent Central Park now sadly a Tesco. Never watch rugby now of either code.
But I will make an exception for games at Everton, of course.
18 Posted 26/03/2025 at 14:54:28
He was dissing BMD on Saturday night before I went to the test. He'll change his mind when he sees it for real. He'll probably change his colours again as well!) And I'll make him wipe his feet before he goes in.
Danny, England RL play in white and red, but most RL fans go in their own club colours, so in your case, Black and White for Widnes. Wigan play in a horrible, dirty cherry and unwashed white rag that looks like a used sannypad!🤢
I used to enjoy the GB Lions v the Kangaroos – they were massive games often played to full houses at Wembley. I don't like the new “home countries” teams but I suppose there are less Welsh greats in League now than in those days.
“ be a flyer with Martin Offiah" appearing on the sides!!.”
Didn't Roger Hunt have similar on his car?? “Be a cunt like Roger Hunt”
ps: The Saints – now there's a proper marching song!!!
19 Posted 26/03/2025 at 15:18:37
20 Posted 26/03/2025 at 15:37:51
21 Posted 26/03/2025 at 15:40:08
"Well, there won't be any players rolling round in agony as if struck by a 10-ton truck when they're accidentally touched by an opponent's finger nail."
Oh so they're playing rugby union then? I thought the OP said it was rugby league.
22 Posted 26/03/2025 at 15:42:45
23 Posted 26/03/2025 at 15:46:21
There was also that famous car 'be an absolutely horrible Genesis punching bell end with no redeeming features, like Steven Gerard'
24 Posted 26/03/2025 at 16:06:17
25 Posted 26/03/2025 at 16:24:12
The GB v Australia tests in the '80s and '90s were brutal. Great days.
26 Posted 26/03/2025 at 16:28:30
What a place! It's Stone Age… but when the Tigers have a chance of a win, it is fabulous.
27 Posted 26/03/2025 at 16:32:58
They can host the World Tiddly Winks Final™ there for all I care, as long as it's a sell-out and we make loads of dosh to spend on players.
28 Posted 26/03/2025 at 16:39:03
Pitch will be a right state.
For the paltry income, fuck it right off.
29 Posted 26/03/2025 at 16:42:26
Quote from the interim CEO, soon to transition to overseeing stadium development, Colin Chong:
“As well as being home to Everton, our new stadium was built to also host world-class sporting and entertainment events. Securing an international fixture of this magnitude demonstrates Everton Stadium's status as one of the UK's leading venues. “The rivalry between England and Australia in rugby league has a rich history, and we are excited to welcome fans of the sport to our city and our stadium which will offer an unforgettable experience in a state-of-the-art setting on the banks of the River Mersey.”
It seems we finally have marketing objectives to make the most out of the new stadium.
In terms of concerts, I'd like to see a further re-union of the Stone Roses play there. And if the Beatles are good enough for Manchester City, to hear Mersey Paradise being sung at the stadium would be something. I actually wouldn't object to it being played in the build-up. Very apt for the setting.
30 Posted 26/03/2025 at 16:44:45
Spurs host a couple of NFL games in October each year and it has no effect on the pitch (but plenty on their bottom line).
But, hey, nothing like ‘bloke in the pub' logic when it comes to these things…
31 Posted 26/03/2025 at 16:51:32
We won't know who we're playing until the fixtures are released, probably in July? We could be away the week after. Who knows?
For me, this is a positive, even though I have no clue about Rugby.
The pitch will be recovered and maintained. Like other venues used for events other than football, they seem to manage it. I don't remember Goodison having problems when Bellew fought there with fans ringside on the pitch watching with a boxing ring parked in the middle.
32 Posted 26/03/2025 at 16:52:11
I hear it all the time down here from the chinless Home Counties boys and their fags.
33 Posted 26/03/2025 at 16:57:09
34 Posted 26/03/2025 at 17:01:23
Stanley was a dreadful team – unfortunately always bottom of the league.
35 Posted 26/03/2025 at 17:29:38
So the footy pitch wouldnt be affected at all in that case?
36 Posted 26/03/2025 at 17:31:20
37 Posted 26/03/2025 at 17:35:20
38 Posted 26/03/2025 at 17:43:38
We want The Killers playing on the pitch on a Saturday and us playing European football the following week. All that cash equals new players and no points deductions!
39 Posted 26/03/2025 at 17:59:44
More importantly, is another revenue generator. Maybe we can entice a few England football international matches up there too. After all, they've played many at smaller much less impressive grounds in recent years.
40 Posted 26/03/2025 at 18:03:57
41 Posted 26/03/2025 at 18:39:19
There's been Rugby League games at Old Trafford for years with no discernible impact.
42 Posted 26/03/2025 at 19:37:56
It is a good sport, I was a season ticket holder at Cas before I emigrated, but at an international level it is no contest. The Rugby League World Cup format is that every team plays each other then Australia beat England or New Zealand in the final.
43 Posted 26/03/2025 at 19:53:40
Its all a great Day out, them Aussies are big buggers and can certainly play rugby, be a few sore limbs coming off the pitch at full time.
Whether you like rugby or not Danny, the Day will be great with a mixture of fans from all over, without any trouble and plenty of banter.
44 Posted 26/03/2025 at 20:05:35
So would he be Antonia de Sancha to your David Mellor, Brian??
45 Posted 26/03/2025 at 20:22:13
47 Posted 26/03/2025 at 20:48:42
48 Posted 26/03/2025 at 21:41:28
49 Posted 26/03/2025 at 21:57:38
Why Bristol City?
Have I missed something?
50 Posted 26/03/2025 at 22:29:25
51 Posted 26/03/2025 at 22:33:59
Currently7th, perched on the edges of the play-offs, with the same number of points as 6th, The Robins could well make a league appearance at the Dock next season!
52 Posted 26/03/2025 at 22:46:40
53 Posted 26/03/2025 at 23:04:22
The ball has to be passed sideways or backwards, or is it a forward pass and the other team get possession.
If a player knocks on by dropping the ball forward, its a scrum and the opposing team will put the ball in the scrum, which always goes to his team mate.
If a player is injured or play stops, the ref tells timekeeper to stop the clock, then time resumes, once the 80 mins is up on the clock a hooter goes to end the game, then the ref will blow for full time.
None of this 6 minutes added time rubbish like football
There is a sin bin for 10 minutes for a bad tackle, and a red card if one of the players get clothlined with a high shot.
54 Posted 26/03/2025 at 23:17:08
I like Brians more thoughtful explanation but as youre a Yank Ill explain it in US terms. Rugby league is like flag football. Rugby union is like the short lived XFL.
55 Posted 26/03/2025 at 23:33:24
56 Posted 26/03/2025 at 23:33:58
Also Im not sure how a RL scrum can be called a scrum! 6 players of each side stand around gently leaning on one another and the ball is rolled to the one at the back to pick up!
57 Posted 26/03/2025 at 23:41:40
If only football brought in the one captains challenge per team rule, then if unsuccessful, any players surrounding a ref can get penalised.
Bruno reffed the game at Goodison, time he spent in the refs face.
58 Posted 26/03/2025 at 23:51:00
You got me mate sorry I couldnt resist. Honestly Ive never watched rugby league but I grew up with a father who hated it for some reason and tried to force me into rugby union which honestly I never enjoyed playing. I was all about football which my old man also hated.
59 Posted 27/03/2025 at 00:22:35
I, too, never enjoyed rugby at school and did cross country to avoid it and actually got rather good at cross country (erm 4th in Northern Schools championship!),
60 Posted 27/03/2025 at 00:27:21
Not winding you up, I really don't know. The sport never grabbed me except for the rugby sevens at the Olympics and the aforementioned Jonah Lomu, who was one of the most spectacular athletes I ever saw.
61 Posted 27/03/2025 at 00:35:16
62 Posted 26/03/2025 at 00:57:01
Our Dad was a multi-team sport appreciator and so thats what we grew up to be.
Rugby union is the game Ive played the most - front-row tussling suiting my build, temperament, stamina (with lack of major pace and severe lack of general fancy footwork reducing my alternate sporting careers) - football (Everton) is the one I am happiest to watch through thick and thin, and rugby league is one I greatly admire when it is played with the flair it deserves (Saints fan).
Mike Gaynes, if you consider the variety of normal body types rugby union is perhaps the archetypal ‘team sport, with a variety of diverse specialist positions that means ‘fat guys will be helping giants jump directly upwards to catch a pitched ball whilst human battering rams or willothe wisp types are arranging themselves to receive the ball and make their attempt to penetrate the ranks of defenders who will do their utmost to literally stop them in their tracks.
As stated by others, competition for possession of the ball in union (as in football) is constant whilst the ball is in play.
Lineouts and scrums are union ‘specialty restarts were 16 very hefty ‘forwards form phalanxes to melee for possession of the ball and so a union game could easily shred a manicured footballing surface, but rugby league is more of a general athletes game so the pitch should be fine for just one game. The multi-match Magic Weekend could be much more problematic, especially if the surface was soggy.
You can punt the ball to touch for strategic reasons in both codes, but union can devolve into kicking duels where the object is not actually to put it out of play but to induce a mistake and end up playing the game in an improved attacking position.
63 Posted 27/03/2025 at 01:13:35
Yep Hertfordshire. Union stronghold. One “older kid” from the local team I played for made it into the England team during the Dallaglio era. But I was more focused on trying to be the next Trevor Steven. His career plan worked out better than mine.
64 Posted 27/03/2025 at 01:57:29
Not those three but Matt Dawson (England / Lions scrum half- union), Adam Jones (Wales / Lions prop- union) and James Graham (England/ GB prop- league) are recorded as Everton fans.
Union isnt the sole preserve of ‘snobs who only love union.
65 Posted 27/03/2025 at 04:28:47
I once bumped into Matthew James Sutherland Dawson in the Mons believe it or not and had a really nice chat. I recognised him not from rugby but QOS though. He was born in Birkenhead, I think.
66 Posted 27/03/2025 at 06:34:08
My dad always said Rugby Union - the only game where the ball spends more time in the crowd than on the pitch!
Tbf that was then - its different now and since professionalism, faster and better. Also tbh I enjoy both codes, as did my dad ironically, he was a BIG fan of the Welsh team of the 70s (who wasnt??)
I prefer League - though thats probably due to my bias thanks to Saints - but really enjoy the six nations. I wouldnt watch a Union club game though.
The issue I have with League is that theyre always trying to speed it up - the emphasis is on entertainment (too much in my view) but its is much faster and dramatic. Union is more a game if chess. My problem with Union is there are far too many complicated rules, including that recent one in the Wales game that outlaws hurdling a tackle!
Both codes have changed and are much more athletic nowadays. I can still remember the days when a Chisnall or other big fat bloke, would trudge up the middle of the pitch with three blokes hanging on to him trying to stop him making 5 yards.
Then the Aussies came…. The fit, fast, skilful Aussies and literally transformed the game of league.
Ive seen St Helens beat Australia on a muddy Knowsley Road before that transformation. I doubt even the best Saints (Or Wigan, or Leeds) team of modern times would get near them.
St Helens is my home town and the Rugby League side is one of the best in history (THE best in Super League) and make me proud, but fail into nothing when I think of my love for Everton. Ive seen Saints win finals and wished I was at Everton.
UTFT and NWOTS
67 Posted 27/03/2025 at 07:02:48
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68 Posted 27/03/2025 at 07:27:01
Trump putting a 25% tariff on car imports will bugger up Toyota, therefore TFG.
Itll be embarrassing if the Japanese car maker cuts back on potential stadium sponsorship and cant afford the full TOYOTA Stadium name and cuts back to just TOY Stadium
69 Posted 27/03/2025 at 08:17:10
Anyway as an honorary Saints man having worked in Sint Hillins for over twenty years I appreciate how the game has improved over the last twenty - thirty years. I still have a fondness for Eddie Waring and Grandstand in the 60's. A load of big lads, some up from the pit, rolling around in the shite. Marvellous !
Now as a league man you've likely seen this, and I can't do links ( although I do like a Cumberland ) but check out Castleford v Wigan Commentary on You Tube. I think you Yanks will love it too. Aaah can't spake !
70 Posted 27/03/2025 at 08:37:28
6 players sent off, Huddersfield had a tall coloured guy Tony Johnson, who went through 3 Wigan players and set up a try, after that he got clothlined around 3 times and eventually got taken off for his own safety, some of those head high shots were brutal, never seen a game like it for a player having a target on his back.
71 Posted 27/03/2025 at 09:02:25
72 Posted 27/03/2025 at 09:06:38
73 Posted 27/03/2025 at 09:15:48
74 Posted 27/03/2025 at 09:24:56
75 Posted 27/03/2025 at 09:34:31
76 Posted 27/03/2025 at 09:35:32
It will impact them. Not just their Toyota business, they also have holdings in Lexus.
But the remainder of their portfolio of 21 companies would seemingly be unaffected, so I am sure the bank account is still healthy.
Ironically, I had to BBC News on this morning and this announcement came a day or two after the South Korean car manufacturer, Hyundai, announced a USD $21BN investment in the US (Louisiana). Now, that could be seen as appeasement, but knowing our Donald, it will justify his actions in his own mind.
77 Posted 27/03/2025 at 09:44:16
Yes, Jonah Lomu, but I guess the joke made more sense at the time he was around and league clubs were poaching union greats. Now its tuther way round! Ex league greats are even coaching the international teams.
I know the video you mean- some darts commentator plagiarised it recently. I googled it as “dirty Wigan” and had to trawl through thousands of vids until I found it…
https://youtu.be/o58stoJJ5No?si=xYNIMTgIv539yEb-
Ah cont spake indeed.
78 Posted 27/03/2025 at 09:46:55
A man with some rather 1970s views. Probably be at home on ToffeeWeb tbh!
79 Posted 27/03/2025 at 09:57:08
Paul, the difference between then and now is that there were checks and balances around him. This time out, he wields absolute power and has surrounded himself by hypnotised, fawning lapdogs who hang on his every word and agree with everything he says.
I could loosely liken him to a certain despotic 20th Century Dictator, but I won't. We can get away with Trump given the potential impact on Everton's owners, but I don't think 1930s Germany should be discussed here!!!!
Mark, wasn't Jonah Lomu about 18 stone and could run an olympic standard 100m? There's only one thing if that is running towards you. Close your eyes and hope for the best.
80 Posted 27/03/2025 at 09:57:31
81 Posted 27/03/2025 at 10:10:38
Brian - just thuggery from both sides. Shouldve been easily more than 6 sendings off and that “tackle” on the black lad was bare faced assault that the ref saw and ignored.
Just in case anyone missed it, this was a SECOND division match. Thats a trophy Wigan have won that St Helens never will…
Liam, the Wigan number 2, the lad who kept getting ignored when Wigan had the ball, and who notably kept out of all the trouble, is my cousin Barry Williams.
82 Posted 27/03/2025 at 10:34:35
The Rugby league Ashes game against Australia has already demonstrated the pull of our new stadium over Old Trafford who would normally host this event. As many have said no feigning injuries from these guys, a treat to watch compared to the antics of nearly all Premier league players.
I remember in Moyes first reign he allowed St Helens Rugby league side to train at Bellfield, and Moyes commented of how there were no tie ups or bottles of water left on the training ground as the players had picked everything up, and he said the changing rooms were spotless after the players left.
83 Posted 27/03/2025 at 15:07:45
Avoided me having to play rugby, though.
84 Posted 27/03/2025 at 16:25:23
85 Posted 27/03/2025 at 18:08:37
Another totally related matter.
Im in Tier One of the BMD waiting list but havent heard anything yet?? Do the club send us an alert when we qualify???
86 Posted 27/03/2025 at 18:49:38
87 Posted 27/03/2025 at 19:25:41
Mate of mine just got his today, in the North Stand by (his) mistake. He says the only south stands left are right up in the Gods!
A guy next to me last Sunday says it very scary up there!! 🫣
Is there a seat plan to show what seats are still available??
I need to build up to when I tell my missus Im spending her housekeeping on a ST! 😬
88 Posted 27/03/2025 at 20:08:22
89 Posted 27/03/2025 at 20:21:30
But don't quote me. I've given up with the tickets page on the club site. Many members can't get tickets as they're being sold to god knows who. And the cheeky shits are still offering membership for the rest of this season!
I submitted an online note, complaining and highlighting that tickets were appearing on websites at inflated prices. There was one for City within an hour going for £350.
I asked them not to give me a bland response. I got a bland response, advising me not to use those websites and report it to the club.
I just had!!
90 Posted 28/03/2025 at 16:02:33
Didn't your namesake get the "early bath" following a proper fist fight with Sid Hines in the Challenge Cip Final at Wembley many years ago?
91 Posted 28/03/2025 at 20:48:09
92 Posted 29/03/2025 at 10:04:07
Alex Murphy' s skullduggery got Sid Hynes sent off in the Leigh v Leeds Rugby League Final of 1971. The incident also caused Murphy to be stretchered off and allegedly he winked to the cameras en route.
I bumped into Murphy years later at Knowsley Road and mentioned it, he just gave a wry smile.
93 Posted 30/03/2025 at 06:46:27
On another tour for a World Cup down under he was coach of the England team who were to play Wales in Brisbane and he told them, lose this and half the population will be walking around in red jerseys tomorrow, how right he was.
If any of you haven't seen Rugby League before then get tickets for the Australian Kangaroos Test at BMD as the speed of the Australian side will come as a surprise and if you want a preview try watching a replay of any NSW v Queensland State of Origin game but TV doesn't give you the full idea of how fast the game is in Oz.
94 Posted 30/03/2025 at 10:29:14
I plead the headaches!
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1 Posted 26/03/2025 at 11:56:50
Everton hosting the 2nd Rugby League Test Match at BMD
England v Australia on 1 November. See yer, Old Trafford. There's a new kid in town. Now for NFL and some concerts.