Season › 2024-25 › News James Tarkowski could also miss the initial stages of the 2025-26 season Anjishnu Roy 28/04/2025 75comments | Jump to last Everton could miss James Tarkowski for the start of the 2025-26 campaign following a devastating hamstring injury to the centre-back, according to Pete O’Rourke of Football Insider. Tarkoswki had already been ruled out for the rest of the current campaign as well as the Blues’ pre-season preparations but his absence could be longer. The 32-year-old was forced off the pitch in the 2-0 loss at home to Manchester City on April 19. Tarkowski will undergo surgery and his recovery and rehabilitation could extend into the new season. He had been ever-present as captain following David Moyes’ return and Tarkowski hadn’t missed a league game since joining Everton in July 2022. His injury means he falls two games short of equalling Wayne Bridge's Premier League record of 113 consecutive starts for an outfield player. Moyes described losing the senior defender for the current season as a “big blow”. "Tarky plays such a huge part in how we've done so well in this period," he added. Tarkowski scored the famous last-gasp equaliser against Liverpool in the 2-2 draw at Goodison Park. He was replaced by Jake O’Brien at the heart of the defence against Chelsea at Stamford Bridge while Nathan Patterson was deployed at right-back. While Everton had already planned on acquiring a centre-back in the upcoming transfer market, Football Insider sources report that those plans are only likely to be accelerated. Reader Comments (75) Note: the following content is not moderated or vetted by the site owners at the time of submission. Comments are the responsibility of the poster. Disclaimer () Mike Hayes 1 Posted 28/04/2025 at 15:01:35 Need a big reset in the summer but what money does the club have to spend to recruit new players? Tarkowski has formed a great partnership with Branthwaite but, given his injury, we need a replacement before the start of the season. We will expect to hit the new ground running after the crappy starts we've had in the past. Let's hope he's ready for the start of the season but definitely need a solid replacement. Mike Gaynes 2 Posted 28/04/2025 at 15:20:14 This is what I was afraid of when we heard he was headed for surgery. We will likely need to sign two experienced centre-backs this summer to backstop the two young 'uns. Nigel Scowen 3 Posted 28/04/2025 at 15:24:10 Mike and Mike,I think Moyes said he is hopeful of having him back for pre-season. 🤞 Andrew Merrick 4 Posted 28/04/2025 at 15:27:05 Okay, but if we spend big on 2 centre-backs, does that limit other (more) urgent incoming?We need a right-back, maybe a left-back too (preferably fast wingbacks).Absolutely need a striker, Premier League quality, aproven finisher.At least one winger, and a younger Gana too. We will need an enormous cash injection for this, Toyota or whoever with deep pockets and belief in our brand. Alan McGuffog 5 Posted 28/04/2025 at 16:10:17 Sorry but past experience has shown us that you can add 3 months onto an initial, provisional, return date.Anyone know, roughly, how much we can spend this summer? I can see another struggle in 2025-26, sadly. Paul Kossoff 6 Posted 28/04/2025 at 16:28:03 Could this injury be linked to the Merseyside derby tackle? He tackles with so much force that an accumulation of impacts surely would have some effect on his body. And Tarkowski is not going to let slight injuries or knocks let him miss games. In other words, he would not let on he was carrying an injury. Paul Kossoff 7 Posted 28/04/2025 at 16:33:13 I've just had a nasty thought. Moyes offers new contracts to Keane and Holgate… Nooooo!😭 Danny O'Neill 8 Posted 28/04/2025 at 16:51:26 A hamstring injury isn't usually caused by impact, Paul, and he would have felt it at the time. You can't hide from a hamstring once it goes.I don't know if you watched the recent West Brom v Derby County match. Holgate had an absolute shocker. Mike Gaynes 9 Posted 28/04/2025 at 16:53:04 Nigel, yep, fingers crossed, but I have a hard time believing that a surgically repaired 32-year-old hamstring will be ready for duty before autumn. Alan, I'd be astonished if our new owners revealed their budget publicly. Danny, the mere mention of Holgate's name caused me to halt my consumption of breakfast. Alan McGuffog 10 Posted 28/04/2025 at 17:32:33 Mike, I guess I meant not so much how much our owners have to spend but how much we might be allowed to spend. Mike Gaynes 11 Posted 28/04/2025 at 17:46:48 Alan, yes, that's what I meant also. They'll have been apprised of the new FFP rules for the upcoming season and determined Everton's regulatory spending limit. I just think they'll keep that number to themselves. BTW, I was just reading that the new FFP includes different limits for clubs competing in Europe and clubs that aren't. Colin Crooks 12 Posted 28/04/2025 at 17:58:19 Tarkowski's form during the first quarter of the season was as bad as bad gets. He was costing us goals, left, right and centre. Match after matchYeah, I've heard all the nonsensical excuses about him playing 15 games "carrying an injury"; the fact is – he wasn't. He was simply shite and was showing form which had us languishing down the bottom. Form which would have seen Michael Keane hung, drawn and quartered.He did settle down... eventually, but it's taking longer and longer for his engine to get warmed up with each passing season. We can't afford to wait until Chrimbo next season. Get Jake and Jarrad developing a partnership during whatever remains of this season and bring in someone younger and more reliable than the guy embarrassingly still labeled "Mr dependable".An injury following a body-on-the-line type of career does not bode well for what will be a 33-year-old centre back.Good servant in the past, but he ain't the future. John Chambers 13 Posted 28/04/2025 at 18:43:37 Alan, it will be difficult guessing how much we have to spend this year. We will still have to comply with PSR at the end of this and the next financial years. Obviously we will have the additional income (and costs) of the new stadium that can be factored into July 2025 to June 2026. I'm sure the accountants have done all sorts of modelling on the new match day revenues but there will still be a bunch of unknowns, eg, will there be a stadium naming rights deal? John Chambers 14 Posted 28/04/2025 at 18:50:05 Mike, sorry I missed your comment before replying to Alan. The clubs have decided not to implement the new squad-based costing next season and are sticking with PSR, hence my comments to Alan. Premier League spending rules set to stay next seasonYou are right about the potential for a difference between the Premier League and Europe. The level of squad cost to revenue for clubs in Europe is 70% from next season whilst the proposal for the Premier League was 85%. Jim Bennings 15 Posted 28/04/2025 at 19:16:50 Tarkowski's been super fit for years. He's 32 now; sooner or later, this was always going to happen. I'm just hoping it's not something that becomes reccuring.Nothing new to learn, we need 10 new players this summer. Mike Gaynes 16 Posted 28/04/2025 at 19:24:05 John, thanks for that correction... much appreciated.Colin, of course he's not the future, and of course he'd lost a step even before the injury. But he'll be staying through next season because he's under contract, Moyes is comfortable with him and we need experienced depth behind Jake and Jarrad. The problem is that, if he's unavailable well into next season, we may need not only a replacement for Keane but one for Tarkowski as well. Gotta have four centre-backs. Robert Tressell 17 Posted 28/04/2025 at 19:27:34 Shame. The Branthwaite - Tarkowski partnership is probably our only functioning partnership in the first XI. Fortunately, O'Brien has now acclimatised and is doing great — but where is the centre-back cover from the bench? Paul Kossoff 18 Posted 28/04/2025 at 19:31:08 Danny 8. medical explanation of hamstring injuries.Causes:Sudden, powerful movements: Sprinting, lunging, or jumping can overstretch the hamstring. Inadequate warm-up: Not preparing the muscles properly before exercise can increase the risk of injury. Direct impact: A blow to the back of the thigh can also cause a hamstring strain. The unnatural positioning of his leg when he went in for that tackle, I was surprised he wasn't injured himself. An accumulation of his gung ho attitude is what I was suggesting. By the way, Danny, how did you sit In a pub with reds when the game was on? I would rather have sat in a field of shitting cows than sat with that herd.😀 Danny O'Neill 19 Posted 28/04/2025 at 19:57:41 I've only ever done my hamstring in a sprint, Paul. I thought it was okay after about 4 weeks but it pulled again on my first light run. No science or investigation, just my own experience. Over the years, I broke both legs and both ankles with ligament damage fortunately not the knees. As I've mentioned, the quad tear was a difficult one to come back from.I doubt he would have continued had he done it in that challenge. I like to go out to watch the football, even when not drinking. No escaping them down here. Brian Wilkinson 20 Posted 28/04/2025 at 20:25:12 Alan @5, it was said the turnaround in Revenue could increase to around £60M a season at the new stadium, and that is before naming rights taken into account.Once we get past end of June, the new accounts will kick into place, so, roughly speaking, Everton could sign 4 top quality players for say £30M to £40M each, but over a 5-year deal, it could work out as spending around £8M each season per player.So Everton could go big if they really wanted to, and not worry if the total is even say £180M, that would get amortized over the 5-year term. I know wages would also have to be taken into account, but the £105M a season over the 3-year threshold could be tweaked, with smart thinking and 5-year contracts, to spread the costs.I think you will see the signings coming in after the end of June cut-off.That's the way I see it… but I could be wrong. John Raftery 21 Posted 28/04/2025 at 20:37:27 Danny (19), I tore a hamstring 30 years ago towards the end of a 5-mile race in Croxteth Park. It felt like I had been shot in the back of the leg. It was 3 months before I was back running properly.Hamstring injuries are often associated with lower back, pelvic, gluteal or hip problems. At the start of the season, Tarkowski had a gluteal problem which he played through. I don't know, but it is possible that issue was contributory to this hamstring injury. The fact he requires an operation, which is usually the last resort, suggests it is a really serious injury. Danny O'Neill 22 Posted 28/04/2025 at 20:57:38 I'd say so, John. It appears his injury is way beyond the power of Deep Heat, Tiger Balm (lethal stuff if you don't wash your hands before going for a pre-match pee or you rub your eyes). When your hamstring goes, it's like having a knife stuck into the back of your upper leg.Talking lower back… Sciatica. Excruciating pain all the way down your leg to your ankle, causing enforced Tourettes when you stand up! John Raftery 23 Posted 28/04/2025 at 21:07:21 Brian (20), Yes, I have read we will have around £45M to spend in the summer, assuming the naming rights deal is not settled before the start of the new season, and that we don't make a big sale. As you say, the extra money can be split among several big signings… but that calibre of player will inevitably come with significant wage demands. I suspect we will end up bringing in a couple of experienced, proven players who can hit the ground running and a couple of young, hungry lads who have the potential to develop. Nothing will happen until after 30 June but I would hope we will sign the main targets before the start of pre-season so that the squad is better prepared than it has been for the last three seasons.On top of that, we will plug some gaps with three or four loanees. Almost inevitably, they will not arrive until the latter stages of the transfer window. Rob Halligan 24 Posted 28/04/2025 at 21:19:26 Danny, Sciatica is a right pain in the arse!! Jerome Shields 25 Posted 28/04/2025 at 21:53:16 O'Brien and Branchwaite looked a good partnership against Chelsea.Wishing Tarkowski a good recovery. Mike Gaynes 26 Posted 28/04/2025 at 22:08:39 Tiger Balm. Some bad memories with that stuff, Danny. Rob, amen. You know I've been through some stuff, but a sciatic injury 25 years ago was the worst pain ever. Paul Kossoff 27 Posted 29/04/2025 at 00:37:49 Mike, I had sciatica, right from my hip to my ankle. Made worse when I was playing in the Manx league. Scored three and a big bastard twat when I went up for a header he was right under me, I must have been 10 feet in the air, came right down on my back on a semi frozen pitch. Carried off, couldn't walk properly for months. Even remember the team we played St Mary's. Happy days. 😁😭😁 Paul Kossoff 28 Posted 29/04/2025 at 00:48:42 Danny, I hope your injuries were caused by some bastard jealous of your superior skills. I played on with a slight hamstring injury but didn't know it until I went the doctor's because it got worse. He said it's the hamstring and I had it for 3 months. Nice big thighs I had though. 😁 Mike Gaynes 29 Posted 29/04/2025 at 00:58:36 PK, crazy coincidence, that's exactly how it happened to me in the over-35 league in San Francisco. Went up for a header, got undercut, and helicoptered. Came down flat on my back on a guy's foot and ruptured a disc that damaged the sciatic nerve. Had discectomy surgery and didn't play for 16 months. Paul Kernot 30 Posted 29/04/2025 at 02:29:55 This thread is turning into a footie version of the Jaws scene on the boat in calm waters. Pull up the leg of your kex, lads! Mike Gaynes 31 Posted 29/04/2025 at 04:16:28 Kex? Colin Crooks 32 Posted 29/04/2025 at 04:54:45 Trousers, MikeOh and post 16 - Agreed Danny O'Neill 33 Posted 29/04/2025 at 05:29:00 Paul @28, one of the ankle breaks, definitely. Having represented at Army level, a high standard, I tended to get singled out and got absolutely smashed.Standard Army medical diagnosis came to the conclusion it was a sprain and the even more standard cure for everything; Tubigrip and Brufen. That one turned out to be a break, which healed itself. It was the ligaments that took a while. Alan J Thompson 34 Posted 29/04/2025 at 06:05:30 Kex, if that's how it's spelt, a truly scouse word. Anyone remember singing on the Gwladdy, "When you're smiling" and after "The whole world smiles with you", "without your kex on"? Happy days… the singing I mean. Alan McGuffog 35 Posted 29/04/2025 at 07:58:52 Sad to say I can't compete with the glamour of some of these footballing back injuries. I did my lower back in the lower reaches of the Manchester Sunday League about 50 years ago. I foolishly allowed a team mate to sit on my shoulders whilst he tied the net to the crossbar. Elite sport eh! Robert Tressell 36 Posted 29/04/2025 at 08:30:18 John # 23,If you're right and the net spend is £45M, that will probably be in the Bottom 5 net spend amounts this summer. As we are seeing after the new manager bounce, our true position in the league is somewhere in the bottom half. We then have the challenge of losing players who play a lot of games to frees and loan expiry.Really difficult rebuild for only £45M. Danny O'Neill 37 Posted 29/04/2025 at 08:31:00 Get in, Alan. Jumpers for goalposts and all that!!!!! I remember a youth team I was coaching once. They scored a beauty and were celebrating. The ref gave a goal kick. The ball had gone under the patched up net and there were only 3 pegs to secure it.My poor wife used to call me and my relationship with football childish. I don't know if she was talking about me playing or following Everton. I think I know the answer. She did used to come and watch me play and told me I was going to get myself injured due to my style of play.She only came to Goodison on 3 occasions. My son's first match on the opening day of the season, fittingly against Aston Villa. A 0 - 0 draw, which maintained the truce. Then another Everton v Villa fixture when they beat us 1 - 0. Sat in the Main Stand and she jumped up cheering when they scored. The other one was when we took my youngest brother to his first match. A 6 - 2 win against Swindon, sat in the lower Gwladys Street. If the memory serves, an unlikely screamer from Stuart Barlow sticks in the mind. My poor brother fell asleep half way through the second half, so missed it and I had to carry him out of the stadium.Goodison memories. Alan McGuffog 38 Posted 29/04/2025 at 08:50:54 Danny... was that the game when newly arrived John Collins missed a penalty in the Park End?Was it the start of "disappointed" Walter Smith tenure? I recall the teams coming out to a Scots Piper... took months to uncurl my toes! Graham Mockford 39 Posted 29/04/2025 at 08:53:22 The only positive to the situation is that we are unlikely to accept any offers for Branthwaite. Danny O'Neill 40 Posted 29/04/2025 at 09:45:06 Yes, Alan, that was the one.I was made up when we signed John Collins, I'd followed him for Celtic and when he went to Monaco. A very cultured footballer. That day, I remember the reception he was getting when he went over to take corners.We had other good players at that time, but it didn't work out. A favourite of mine was Olivier Dacourt and Marco Materazzi, who obviously went on to bigger and better things. Not forgetting Nick Barmby, before he saw red and took the Satanic oath. Alan McGuffog 41 Posted 29/04/2025 at 10:45:46 Unless my memory is playing silly buggers, I don't recall Collins pulling up any trees when he played midfield. Then he started being played at left-back and was far more assured. I was delighted that we signed him at the time but it never quite worked out. As with so many things Everton-related. Dave Abrahams 42 Posted 29/04/2025 at 12:07:52 I hurt my wrist playing on the tarmac pitch next to The Great Eastern pub just off Islington. John Bailey used to practice on it before he signed for Blackburn. I carried on playing until the game finished then went in The Goblin and onto a bender and got home late the next day.The pain was really bad when I woke up. I went to the Royal for an X-ray — I'd broken the wrist. Luckily, I was between jobs at the time so the plaster cast didn't interrupt my working career. Paul Kossoff 43 Posted 29/04/2025 at 14:18:16 Dave 42. The day before I started as an apprentice fitter mechanic I had to go in goal for my team, never been in goal before or since. Made a save from the only lad on the pitch who hit the ball harder than Bobby Charlton and my little finger was broke. Strapped it up and I never had it reset. Seeing as I'm a left handed guitarist it took some getting over pain while playing. Again, happy days.😀 Danny O'Neill 44 Posted 29/04/2025 at 14:24:18 Paul, I got put in goal for a hockey match once. I'd never played it in my life. Helmet, face mask, padded gloves and cricket like leg pads aside, the most dangerous sporting position I ever played in. Colin Glassar 45 Posted 29/04/2025 at 14:51:35 Congratulations to Mark Carney. A true Evertonian oh, and Canadian PM Rob Halligan 46 Posted 29/04/2025 at 14:56:48 I thought Kex was spelt…….Kecks!! Danny O'Neill 47 Posted 29/04/2025 at 14:58:47 Im with your spelling Rob. John Keating 48 Posted 29/04/2025 at 15:00:11 Sod the RS and their PL titleWe won the Canada election !!!!!!!!!Pity they play in Red and White? Tony Abrahams 49 Posted 29/04/2025 at 15:04:31 I remember doing my wrist in a central league game, and because I was playing fullback, I had to take all the throw-ins.With twenty minutes left it was fuckn killing me especially because my throws kept getting headed out for another throw to us. We scored and I went to the dugout to ask the physio to strap my wrist up and was met with a big “fuckin get back on the pitch and stop fuckn moaning” from Brian Clough.Went home, never got an ounce of sleep and went for an X-Ray the next morning, and was told it was fractured. Got it put in plaster, and was told to leave it in a sling for the first few days, and went back to the ground, and into the club where everyone had food.One of the first people to see me was Bri, and he flew right over and said, “young Abrahams, what the fuck do you think youre doing with that sling on?”No point answering, especially when he then added and “dont be getting used to that fucking plaster, either, because your teammates fuckin need you”That was about as big as a compliment that I was ever going to get off anyone at Forest, and I should have realised it was too good to be true, although by the end of the next week, he was true to his word, and I had already been fitted with a lighter cast, and was already back playing again.They do anything for you when they need you but when they dont….🤷♂️ Paul Kossoff 50 Posted 29/04/2025 at 15:36:20 Rob I thought it was spelt cecs? No wonder I never knew what the fk that song at Goodison was about.😁 Peter Gorman 51 Posted 29/04/2025 at 15:38:39 Tony, I read that in Cloughies voice, thanks for that. Paul Kossoff 52 Posted 29/04/2025 at 15:40:58 It's a wonder all us ex (Togger) players are still walking.😀 Paul Kossoff 53 Posted 29/04/2025 at 15:43:15 Tony, did you watch that brilliant film about Clough? If so, was he actually like the film and did you like him? Brian Williams 54 Posted 29/04/2025 at 15:59:51 It's 'kecks', for fuck's sake! Always has been, always will be.Fuckin' kex? GTF. 😉Fuckin' cecs? GTFA. 😁 Paul Kossoff 55 Posted 29/04/2025 at 16:05:43 Brian, do you mean go away?😁 Come on, Tony A, give us an insight as to what Clough was really like. Tony Abrahams 56 Posted 29/04/2025 at 16:10:00 Which one Paul? The Dammed United is the only one I can remember watching. There wasn't any real reason for me to dislike Clough, Paul, except for the fact that he was a very authoritarian figure and I've never had much time for authority.I liked his methods because he kept the game very simple, and I also found his bluntness very funny at times, but I always kept my distance and he knew it."Perhaps young Abrahams might even come to my house!" was what he was shouting after he changed his mind and decided to give me a 2-year professional contract instead of the proposed 1 year, but this was because he had seen me suddenly walk the other way, “to get out the fucking way” whenever he wanted a few apprentices to go round to his house and do a bit of gardening work.All the lads used to love going, but I hated authority, although he was funny, especially when he had been drinking, just as long as it wasn't you that was in his firing line! Paul Kossoff 57 Posted 29/04/2025 at 16:19:25 Tony, The dammed United, that's the one, I hate authority. I'm afraid I wouldn't have lasted long with Clough. Even at 5 years of age, I was questioning the teacher's authority at infant's school. Got me a double ruler snack on my legs on the first day of attendance. Brian Williams 58 Posted 29/04/2025 at 16:24:18 Paul #57.Errrr, more or less mate. 😁👍 Mike Gaynes 59 Posted 29/04/2025 at 16:35:17 The Guardian article's specific targeting of our new stadium is unfair because, unlike all the others cited, it has been privately financed.Timms' inarguable main point, which is that new stadia almost never deliver much economic benefit to their host cities -- they frequently turn out to be more boondoggle than boon -- is true of publicly-funded projects in which local bonds and local taxpayers cover much of the nut.That ain't Everton. Dave Abrahams 60 Posted 29/04/2025 at 16:35:32 Tony (58), I only spoke to Clough once, outside Anfield when Forest Reserves were playing Liverpool. I asked him if he had a couple minutes after I introduced myself, then asked what Tony's chances were of getting a professional contract? He told me they were very good but hadn't anyone at Forest already told me that?I said "They hadn't, but that would do me what you had just said."He then invited me to sit in the dug out to watch the game. I told him I was sitting with my other son in the Kop but thanks very much.You told me later that Clough went into you and told you that I had shown more enthusiasm in 5 minutes talking to him than you had showed in the 18 months you had been at Forest! Rob Halligan 61 Posted 29/04/2025 at 16:39:14 I've had me fair share of footie injuries. Stitches in me head, twice, dislocated fingers, hammies, ankle sprains, knee ligaments, groins, thighs, calves, the bloody lot!! Never had an actual break though. Paul Hewitt 62 Posted 29/04/2025 at 16:42:28 I've played rugby and never had that many injuries. Rob Halligan 63 Posted 29/04/2025 at 16:49:44 Yeah, but that was Subbuteo Rugby! Danny O'Neill 64 Posted 29/04/2025 at 16:56:01 Breaks were actually easier, Rob.Different sport, Paul. I always have the debate with rugby players.Both sports are physical. But different. Rugby is upper body impact, but to me, the full force of a misplaced leg-on-leg challenging tackle can be career threatening. Ask Jim Beglin, David Busst and our own Adrian Heath. Paul Kossoff 65 Posted 29/04/2025 at 18:35:35 Danny. My teachers always called football Togger. The term "togger" is a slang term for playing football, particularly in Northern England, according to Collins Dictionary. It is not the standard or commonly used term for football, and it's not directly related to the sport's name or origins. The term "togger" is used specifically for the act of playing football, while the word "football" refers to the sport itself. I prefer soccer myself.😀 Colin Crooks 66 Posted 29/04/2025 at 18:48:22 How can anybody get injured playing rugby league? Grown men wrestling each other to the ground. Impact? These tackles are more like an affectionate hug than a bone breaker. A tough game? Only the fannies who play it claim that. Mihir Ambardekar 67 Posted 29/04/2025 at 18:53:43 This is the right time to put O'Brien and Branthwaite together as the new young partnership. Hope they click. We will still need another good defender who can be a good back-up. Alan McGuffog 68 Posted 29/04/2025 at 19:06:15 Colin, You may want to look into the witness protection programme after that one! 😀 Paul Ferry 69 Posted 29/04/2025 at 19:27:28 Colin (69), not injuries, I'm afraid mate, but 13 players have died playing rugby league. The last one was in 2015. Chris Sanderson died after a heavy tackle in 1977, choking on his own vomit. Paul Hewitt 70 Posted 29/04/2025 at 20:05:49 Colin @69. I've known rugby players play on with broken jaws, fingers and other body parts. Hardly a game for fannies. Colin Crooks 71 Posted 29/04/2025 at 20:32:08 Never played or watched it to be honest, PF. I just thought I would stick it up there to see if I would get a few bites. It kind of backfired on me. Awful to hear that 13 lads have lost their lives playing a sport they love. Allen Rodgers 72 Posted 29/04/2025 at 20:57:56 Colin, the legendary Alan Prescott of St Helens is best remembered for leading his GB side to victory over Australia at Brisbane in 1958, having broken his arm after just four minutes but continuing to play. The big softie went on the wing though. Liam Mogan 73 Posted 29/04/2025 at 21:05:36 Warrington Wolves player Paul Wood ruptured a testicle 1 minute into the 2nd half of 2012 grand final against Leeds and completed the game. He had to have it removed afterwards.Later that night he tweeted 'just coming out the hospital to go home… Seriously feel like I've left something? Tony Smith (Warrington coach) did say in his pre-match team talk last night "Your balls are on the line here, guys!" I didn't think he meant literally! Paul Ferry 74 Posted 30/04/2025 at 07:35:45 Colin 71, I knew that was your motive – you can be tough and that's fine but not bad – my post was more general. By the way, I fecking hate rugby. I've been lucky enough to meet Paul Hewitt and he's a lovely bloke and a 6 foot / 8 inches gentle giant who puts down mouse-friendly mousetraps. He even went to partner birth preparation talks when his wife was pregnant. Danny O'Neill 75 Posted 30/04/2025 at 07:53:32 Quality team talk that, Liam. On injuries, if you like a good film, watch "The Keeper", the story of Bert Traumann.It's not all about football and is set against the background of him adapting to life in Lancashire as a recently freed German PoW after WW2. He opted to stay in the UK rather than return to Germany and had to live with the animosity and prejudice that came with that decision.And then he infamously broke his neck in the cup final playing for Manchester City, with 20 minutes to go, and he played on. Respect. Add Your Comments In order to post a comment, you need to be logged in as a registered user of the site. » Log in now Or Sign up as a ToffeeWeb Member — it's free, takes just a few minutes and will allow you to post your comments on articles and Talking Points submissions across the site. How to get rid of these ads and support TW © ToffeeWeb