Could John Stones make a dramatic Everton return?

Stones has got the breaking strain of a Kitkat.

Hopefully the days of buying this type of player are behind us.

Someone might take a punt on a pay-per-play loan arrangement contributing part of his wages.

Unless we are obligated to keep the physios in work, it's "Thanks… but no thanks."

Nah, a definite non-starter!

I would rather take a punt on a lower league player. Moyes generally gets it right with his defenders, Per Krøldrup aside!

On Stones, he's a class act – and although he's not managed lots of league games he has still played a reasonable number in all competitions:

2024-25: 20 games (11 league games)
2023-23: 28 games (16 league games)
2022/23: 34 games (22 league games)

Yes it's a declining number of games which is a worrying trajectory so I'm not advocating we buy. I'm just saying for balance.

Whatever the case, I'd be amazed if he signed with us. Hard to see how he, Man City and Everton could structure something that worked for all parties from a transfer fee and wages perspective.

The much more logical thing to do is to hunt around for U21 players or teenagers who could go on to become our next John Stones.

Just imagine the volume of comments we would have about Stones!

Stop it — try another one, this one is a non-starter.

As far as Branthwaite is concerned, unless a team offers ridiculous money, he will stay with us for another year… and then we will see depending on how well we do.

I don't see a deal for John Stones.

No. Nothing to see here. Move along...

If we did have to sell, then surely we should be looking at the Burnley players, or the equivalent to that.

I think a loan deal next season with Man City paying 50% of his wages would suit both clubs and player. It deals with the final year of his contract, he is a top quality player and he wants regular football in the season before the World Cup.

Simply because the article above links the arrival of Stones with the departure of Branthwaite doesn't mean the two are related, or that one would follow the other.

And let's have it right – if he stayed fit, he would definitely play. Stones alongside Branthwaite for a season? I'd like to see it. It also would give us more time to scout for a quality young defender as his successor.

Of course, if Man City demand a transfer fee, then no dice.

He was confident from the off, and his "calm down, calm down" gestures to the Gwladys Street end when they wanted him to hoof to Row Z and he played calmly out.

You could tell straight away he was class; those are treasured memories… happy to keep it that way now.

What we do with Branthwaite will go a long way in determining the ambition of our new owners. Yes, selling him would bring in a hefty fee (which I agree, should be no less than £75M), but keeping him would solidify our back line for years to come.

At best, Stones is a 1- or 2-year rental. I've always liked him, but we'll be looking for his replacement almost as soon as he arrives.

Keep Branthwaite, O'Brien, and Pickford, and get to work shoring up areas of actual need. For context, I'd rather see an injury-prone Richarlison return than Stones… and I'm not really excited by that either.

Oh for a young Kevin Ratcliffe, but a definite No on Stones. Look for the next Jake O'Brien and keep Jarrad Branthwaite at all costs.

Over rated.

A bored reporter creating an imaginary story.

He doesn't put enough last-ditch tackles in.

I can't see any Man City player with a name like that, or similar. Sure you don't mean Haaland? 😁😁

A few have left Man City recently with a point to prove and pushed on. Palmer, Delap, Rogers etc.

Everything depends on Branthwaite; if they sell him at the right price, then we need a really good replacement — but surely not Stones.

“I'd only take him on a pay as you play etc…”

Then you don't take him, simple as that. The power is with the player and they will just sign elsewhere. No modern footballer would entertain a 'pay as you play' deal. So let's all move on and stop thinking it's a smart bargaining tool. It's not. Even if it did exist, the player and his agent would laugh at the notion.

I'm not saying I want to sign Stones, by the way. But the idea a five times Premier League Champion player would sign a 'pay as you play' deal is fucking bonkers.

Only 76 days to go before the next season starts.

I don't believe this “rumour” one bit.

Don't know the strength of it but, at 22, he could be the midfielder that we need. Very pleased with the Blues just now.

Liam ~£20M was quoted.

Rob, Come on, Makati, McAtee? Not much difference if you say it quick.

When you look how we finished last season with Moyes in charge, the squad were not that far off getting in the Top 10 if he had started the season with us.

Three more wins and we are 9th; yes, that's easier said than done, I know… but it was possible.

Have we discarded or are about to, too many players? That's the question.

Whilst I am not suggesting for one minute that any of our youngsters will ever reach the level of the PSG kids, how will we know if we continually send them out on loan?

I would hope some of our brightest stars get a run out in pre season before deciding to loan them out.

It would be nice to see them givesome sort of a chance to show they belong with the first team squad.

I don't read too much into rumours, but this sounds like lazy journalism to me, if you can call it journalism.

There will be lots of this over the summer.

Rob @9 calls it for me. With Tarkowski, Branthwaite and O'Brien, I doubt we would pay those wages for back up. I would think there is more chance of Michael Keane being offered a new contract.

But we don't hold the purse strings.

Let's get Rooney & Big Dunc back – let's all wallow in nostalgia while we sell off our best players! Completely insane idea. Branthwaite, please stay – Stones… stay away!

I do feel strongly that a club should exist to represent its community and give a chance to the kids who come from that community.

By giving a chance, I mean giving them access to the best coaching and facilities from a very young age - the reason why Mendes, Hakimi, Joao Neves, Vitinha, Doue, Barcola, Zaire-Emery and Mayulu are so good. Only the latter two came through the PSG academy system too.

We have a lot of catching up to do in our academy - highlighted by how poorly represented we are in the England youth set up, and also how few Championship standard loans our players are able to secure. We loan out very, very few players compared with most other Premier League clubs - including some that have been relegated.

You can’t beat youth, but there’s nothing better than having a bit of experience in the middle of your defence and John Stones, is one of the best footballing central defenders I’ve ever had the pleasure to watch.

If he could stay free from injury he would be a massive asset and would also make Everton, a lot more flexible if they wanted to change formation from time to time.

I understand what people are saying about learning our lesson after the last few years of total mismanagement, but it still makes me smile when I see so many people turning their noses up at such quality!

Academies aren't free. It costs money to run them.

We haven't been producing that many for years. Given where we are located, as well as bringing in kids from elsewhere, there is enough talent on our doorstep.

Just as an aside, I don't know if he is ready, but the young centre back Reece Welch caught the eye at the test event against Bolton. I think he's already played for the first team?

As always, with academies, you don't see the benefit for years after the foundations are put in place. Hopefully we will benefit from what Thelwell put in place before he left.

he’s best days are gone

Keep buying inteligent Everton

Darrel 43 you summed it perfectly up

Spot on

The young Stones reminded me very much of Alan Hansen, the player. A centre back, comfortable on the ball but knew when it had the ball had to go.

Stones was similar. Calm and composed on the ball, which panicked the Park End.

Bravery comes in different ways and when Stones, told the crowd to calm down, my immediate impression was that the kid had some balls!

He was too good for us, or rather too much of a luxury, because we didn’t need/want a footballing central defender taking chances with the ball, but what class he showed in some games, when he was literally streets ahead of the game.

It's like that recent series MobLand. What appeared on paper to have a fantastic cast was possibly the biggest piece of crap I've ever seen. Never laughed so much and I don't think it's meant to be a comedy.

Branthwaite oozes quality. He is going to win trophies and that should be with Everton.

Not that it bothers me, but how he was put in the England U21s rather than the senior squad and then didn't even start surprised me.

A star in the making, if he isn't already. And we have O'Brien closely following him as his partner in defence. What a positive position to be in.

Stones isn’t old for a central defender and has never relied on speed or brawn.

Stones has never been the bravest of central defenders.

When the chips are down would you want to go into the trenches with Stones?

If you was a midfielder trying to get on the ball and play football, which type of defender would you like playing it out to you from the back?

People talk about formations and tactics but the best formation and tactics are always the ones that suit your team!

Everyone wants to watch a young and hungry team, just like the PSG team that mesmerised everyone last night.

Could Stones have played and been an asset for PSG last night? I’d say definitely, but would Stones have been an asset for a Milan team that was on the ropes?

I honestly don’t think I can think of anyone who would have been a defensive asset for Milan, last night, but it’s intriguing to think of Stones, coming back to Everton, because when you look at it positively then there’s no denying his obvious class.

Look at it negatively then? I know, but it’s not just about one or two players, (remembering when we had Stones and Lukaku in the same team) but it’s about building a really competitive squad!

I watched the National League play off final this afternoon and a thoroughly enjoyable game it was. The tactics were miles away from the CL, but were perfectly suited to the players on show.

Sorry I should have left it and went to bed! but before I do a massive point that is often overlooked, is how often do Everton use tactics that really suit our crowd?

Goodnight 👍 I’ve just remembered what I read in one of the papers, a few hours before Everton played Rapid Vienna, when a few people were interviewed and asked the score and a top European delegate said Everton, would win 5-0 because they just simply steamroll the opposition💙

Without making direct comparisons, it drew me to thoughts of one of the world's true greats, and I don't say that about many players. Probably only 6 off the top of my head.

Der Kaiser, Franz Beckenbauer.

He actually started out as as centre forward, but became renowned for being a football playing, forward thinking centre back, comfortable on the ball.

Obviously a legend at Bayern, but he grew up supporting 1860 Munchen, the other team in the city.

A shame that his reputation got tainted by FIFA corruption. Same as another great player, Michel Platini.

But it’s not a position of urgent need with Tarkowski, JB and JOB being three of our better players. Ideally we’d be bringing in a talented youngster for that 4th spot.

Like us the underdogs in a football mad city, as you probably know, relegated for finances in the mid eighties, to the Bayernliga.

They used to take 10,000 to local clubs, imagine Everton playing Southport, Chorley, etc on a regular basis. Taking 15,000 to runcorn…

Sign Branthwaite on a long term contract. Look forward, not back.

That's why, for me, the likes of Stones and Richarlison should not be considered.
Questionable fitness records and top wages are not going to make us more competitive.

Stick to looking for young talented players with potential. Some won't make it,but we just might unearth another diamond or two like we did with Branthwaite and before him of course Stones.

Like some others have suggested, I like McAtee from Man City. he could be available at the right price and fits the perfect profile for me. I also agree with you about Reece Welsh, still young yet for a centre back, but it will be interesting to watch his development.

I injured my hand breaking a KitKat in half once.

Stones on a free, half his Man city wage, based on games played, could be an asset to us in a few positions. Hopefully he would keep clear from injuries and be a good signing for us. But would he come back to Everton? If he says yes, and we sell J B then sign him, oh, and let Kean go, that pays the wage of J S, and I think he's only just 31.

Taking a risk on an injury prone player on high wages to disrupt that would seem like madness.

I'm pretty sure it's a non starter. Forget Stones and find a right-back instead.

He couldn't get away quick enough and now we have to give him a last hurrah pay day? - GTF.

Find more young players like O'Brien & Alcarazs

Brownhill - 28
Hamer - 28
Walker Peters - 28 with regular injuries.

Current clubs all want around £20M for them. Too old, no sell-on value?

Next.

We need to keep Branthwaite if we are to have any ambition. And then probably the last place to consider is more centre-backs given we have Tarkowski, O'Brien (who looks very good to me) and if you want a 4th choice, Keane on much reduced wages.

RB and fast wide players who can put a ball in and bag a few goals are the critical positions. We are alarmingly short there.

Walker-Peters is out of contract end of June, so he's available on a free.

Same for Brownhill.

I agree wholeheartedly with Mal #66.

It was too late when Wayne returned and it would probably be similar if Stonesy came back,

Let's move forward. Keep Branthwaite, O'Brien and Tarkowski with Keane as a back-up. If Keane does move on, promote or buy a younger, upward moving player, who could, in time, become a good fit as a starter.

Sure he has had injuries in the last 2 seasons, but he is pure class.

If we do sell Jarrad in the summer, it wouldn't be because of this signing.

Probably pie in the sky anyway.

Please, Everton, don't bite the dust again. We're slowly progressing…
keep it that way.

Steve @21 might have an idea though, a 1-year loan after which he'd be a free transfer, a 'try before you buy' deal but still there's the problem of the £250k in wages after the loan is up.

So money wise, a non-starter and a player with no future sell-on value, we'd just be pouring money into a black hole even if he managed to stay injury free and play all games.

If we're looking for ex-players, anyone know what Tony Hibbert is up to these days?

I totally agree. Just thinking the same thing when I read your post. For me, not the profile of player we should be looking at.

One quality player coming to the end of his career who could add leadership and experience to the squad, à la Gareth Barry, would probably be acceptable, but others of that age would have no sell-on value.

Vijay@75,

They may be available on a free but will probably expect big wages, and will be open to the highest bidder.

Andrew Merrick 22:and his "calm down, calm down" gestures to the Gwladys Street end". I think that it was the Park End Andrew. Could be wrong.

Hopefully the days of the prodigal return have gone at Everton.

We must do what it takes to keep Branthwaite and look to other options for other positions. If there is one position we seem to have covered it is central defender with Branthwaite, O'Brien and Tarkowski with possibly Keane and/or Welch, we don't need a fourth central defender on the bench who is also the club's highest overpaid player.

Nil Satis Nisi Optimism doesn't mean putting together a midtable team even if that is an improvement on recent (or should that be including recent) seasons.

If only getting better players was as easy as getting supposedly better DoF's and/or systems.

Tony Hibbert is heavily into carp fishing, he runs/owns some lakes in France.

Our defence should be built around him and Jake O'Brien, another with huge potential. Tarkowski will feature for another couple of seasons, but I've already seen enough of those two young players with my own eyes to know they will be a formidable partnership if we keep them together.

But I won't kid myself. With our new owners, if the right offer comes in they will apply their business heads.

The important thing in those situations, is to do what is best for the club. Get the best deal and reinvest in the team. There are many examples. And although it's only Monday, I'll have to go to confession. Just look at what that lot across the park have done over the years. Torres, Suarez and Coutinho.

Sold their best at significant profit and re-invested.

I'm not saying we should, and I hope we don't, but sometimes it happens.

I can see Branthwaite taking over as captain of Everton. He's already shown signs. I think it was at Fulham away, when I saw the 22 year old organising the defence and barking out orders to the 32 year old Michael Keane.

He's quality and will only get better.

Tony Hibbert. At least we could have a riot Eric!!

If City want Branthwaite then with my business head I'd say 50M plus Stones (that's 12Mpa off their wage bill), Foden or Grealish and whoever their third rated striker is provided they fit into our post Doucoure wage system.

Any chance? Probably not but the Rooney days are gone and wasn't it reported that City's owners once said, in reference to another deal, that Everton's proprietors of the time were not used to high level dealings. Time to explain that there's been a change of owners.

Fortunately Moyes has resurrected O Brien, Tarkowski had been carrying a injury for months.His last injury sidelining him. Mykolenko is playing better under Moyes.Patterson does not appear to be Young's replacement and Keane may be offered a extension.

Grealish may be a better option as part of a deal.But Stones in known.If Kenwright was about he would return.Hopefully those days have gone.

Personally hope for Woltemade, McAtee, a good RB and a speedy right winger.

I always liked Tony and was surprised he wasn't at the Farewell to Goodison being a local lad, but maybe the nature of his departure still leaves bitterness.

For the first time, probably since Sir John Moores, I can see Everton meaning business and not being a pushover. These Texans will drive a hard bargain whether buying or selling. Take it or leave it.

We've seen examples already. They walked away from takeover negotiations until they got the deal they wanted, telling Moshiri to explore other options. He soon came back to the negotiation table.

Similarly, if I believe what I read, they didn't give Dyche the pay-off he was contractually entitled to, once our former manager stated he had taken the club as far as he could. That was basically his resignation. So they came to an agreement in our favour financially.

I am just sensing these guys won't take any prisoners. Silent assassins, springs to mind. They don't say a lot, but they act. And, whilst I think they will respect the traditions, they will be ruthless. They are giving me the right signals so far. All we can do is support the team, as we always do.

Talking to a mate yesterday, I said that we can become the club we should be again. He corrected me and told me that we will become that club again.

As the words to my favourite chant goes. Get your coat on and get moving. The blue boys are on the rise.

When does the season start?

So they have full autonomy for a couple of seasons to see how things go and TGF only step in if it all goes pear-shaped.

It's what I would do if I was not a hands-on professional, leave it to the experts and evaluate them on their performance.

Yes, bring the average age down should be the aim, but I am one for a bit of experience blended in to complement younger players.

With Ashley Young and Seamus gone, possibly Michael Keane (32) as well, we will only have 3 players over the age of 30. Depending on who we sign, that average age has already come down.

Pickford at 31 is young for a keeper. Tarkowski at 32, has a few seasons left in him, and Gana has been playing like a 25 year old, defying his 35 years.

Loved him as a player, and it was fantastic to watch a lad get rave reviews in newspapers for Barnsley before we signed him. That cheeky penalty in Florida showed he had no fear at an early age.

Could see him going to Italy. A little bit slower and a bit warmer. They'll appreciate a good defender when they see one.

Will be very hard to keep him more than 12 months. And it pains me to say it, as he's class.

He was a very good player then and got even better with City and England has he progressed but now he is not that player and has much as I like roast beef when it is cooked on a Sunday I wouldn’t eat it the next Friday it would have gone off— just like Stones!

Have you not been around long enough to know the score?

It happens EVERY transfer window and the same posters are "worried "

Wise up, ignore them, and stop the dramatic fretting over things which turn out to be utter rubbish 99% of the time.

They're clickbait invented using tenuous links a child could make.

They're written to catch naive news hunters of which there is a plethora on here.

We absolutely have to keep hold of Branthwaite otherwise to me it sends out the message that we arent interested in success, but just balance the books and invest in other areas. You mention the other lot selling Suarez, Torres and Courthino, the difference being those players had been there for a number of years and you could argue that they had the best years of those players. I would add £145m for Courthino back then was a ridiculous amount of money.
Surely the Rooney deal should have taught us if you are ever hoping to win anything selling your best players is the wrong way to go about it. Yes you will get those saying but we finished 4th the year after we sold him, but it didnt last. Everybody is after top players so when you get one keep hold and build round them.

Stones was always going to go onto better things given where we were at the time. That's my fear with Branthwaite.

But I agree, sometimes it just needs to go into row Z, or over the roof and get a new ball. Jarrad is quite good at that. He knows when it has to go.

Around that period, we always panicked when we tried to play football at the back. Understandable, but if we want to get better, we need centre backs who can also play. It is part of the modern game, although

Branthwaite is special and can also play. Looks to go forward, can carry the ball and worries defenders at set pieces. I hope he doesn't go the same way as Stones, but the sharks will be circling. Let's hold our nerve and feed them fish.

Brian, you know I've stated all along that we should Keep Branthwaite. We've all watched him and know he is a jewel and I want him to stay at Everton. I've seen enough to know how good he is and will be.

I'm only saying that if the right offer comes in, we could be tempted. That's not down to me. The club will make that decision, should it be thrown their way.

To be clear, my opinion is keep him. At all costs and make a statement that we don't have to sell our best players.

Liverpool bought Coutinho for about 6 or 8 million. Sold him for over £100m after rejecting Barcelona twice until they got their asking price. I don't think he won anything with Liverpool and left in his mid 20s. Was it the lure of Barcelona, or did the club smell money? No-one is indispensable.

There have been a few spells where we spent decent money but never as much as those consistently winning things.

The last 4 years or so has been our most serious sustained financial position - where we’ve had to operate as though we were relegated at the end of season 2020/21.

Spending £100m net in just one summer is now a fairly unremarkable thing to do for promoted and mid table sides. Let’s see how TFG handle things over the next few windows as our finances stabilise and PSR issues ease off.

It started in 1985 after the event that we shouldn't mention and that they choose to forget.

We eventually lost our manager and some of our best players and couldn't attract suitable replacements to maintain the momentum due to the lack of the lure of European football.

But. There's always a but. It didn't impact the likes of the perpetrators, Manchester United and Arsenal.

After our last league title in 1987, we rested on our laurels. We're Everton and didn't need to do much seemed to be the attitude at the time. Well, standing still is walking backwards, as everyone passes you by.

And we walked backwards through, in hindsight, poor and ill-judged management of our club.

Hopefully those decades are gone now. With the right investment, we will become the club we are supposed to be and that our supporters deserve.

I think in terms of world football, Everton are quite a big club. However, we don't really feel that way due to the large number of well funded clubs that we have to compete with in the same league.

Since we don’t ( we only have about 11 players without question marks over them) it’s not a great time to sell.

However, if we manage to sign an 18 to 21 year old this summer of genuine talent - it might make more sense next year when the replacement has had a chance to bed in.

Easier said than done of course but it’s rarely a bad strategy to sign up 18 to 21 year olds of genuine talent- and despite the competition many are still very good value

As for some of the other players, much as I love Colin Harvey, he made too many changes when he came in, he replaced better players with ones he thought would take us up a level, Nevin, Cottee, McDonald we’re never good enough to replace Trevor Steven Peter Reid or Adrian Heath.

Trevor Steven stayed at Everton until after the 89 cup final, Gary Stevens moved across to Rangers in 1988.

There has always been a big myth that a lot of Everton players left so they could play in Europe for the likes of Rangers etc, yet at the time I cannot recall a single player asking for a transfer, it is quite easy to use the Euro ban, but for me I put it down to Kendall leaving, then Harvey buying too many players too soon and then letting better players leave.

For my penny’s worth had Kendall chose to stay, we keep Lineker, we keep the players that won the 87 title and like others who seemed to manage after the ban we would have challenged for quite a few years.

That team started to break up the moment Colin Harvey took over and bought his own players.

Not a pop at either Kendall or Harvey, nor you Danny, they both did what they thought was right at the time and did a fantastic job between 84-87.

The moment Kendall left was when everything changed at Everton.

We all know it, whether this story is clickbait or not.

I am now waiting for the “Harry Kane? Not while we’ve got Beto” thread.

I think Peter Reid’s best days were gone through injury and I recall him getting booed in one game near the end of his time at Everton, it might have been the game when we beat QPR 1-0 and if I’m correct Peter scored the only goal of the game!

Dennis @115 you could open up a whole can of worms and separate thread with that one mate.

Dennis, apparently Colin didn't feel up to it in attending the last waltz at Goodison as he didn't think he could make it round the pitch. Joe Royle didn't look good either and was taken to his seat after the match rather than join the lap of appreciation by the former players.

Some would go further back. The sale of Alan Ball, the break up of the 69-70 and Sir John Moores relinquishing his control of Everton in the early 70s.

My memories only go back to about 1974-75 and when I attended my first match at Goodison in 1976, still aged 4, so that's all I can go off apart from reading and listening to those much wiser than me.

I'm sure those who remember the last time we were relegated in the 50s can point to how it is possible to come back from the abyss and rise again. We've nearly been there on several occasions since falling from grace after 1987, but escaped that unthinkable fate. We can and will be back.

Some of Kendall's initial signings turned out to be shocking, apart from the Welsh bin man / hod carrier.

Until I read his memoirs, I never realised that, as a teenager, Neville Southall (MBE), was offered the opportunity to go to Germany with Fortuna Dusseldorf. He turned it down and didn't think he could make it as professional footballer.

Fate.

I am almost sure we came back into the top league after three years in the Second Division with the same squad of players that we were relegated with.

I don't remember who was chairman at that time, I only remember Dick Searle who was on the board — we never bothered with who ran the club in those days, which I think you have mentioned yourself, Danny ,in one of your posts, we only worried and fretted about who was playing for us and, ‘til John Moore's came, we did a lot of worrying and fretting with the players we had then.

I started dying my hair when I was 13½ when it had turned grey with the worry of it all!

Colin Harvey was always a coach and a very good one at all levels. We could do with someone like him in the academy now. Happiest on the training ground and in the dugout, focussing on the game, not the management side. That was more Howard's thing.

He would have flourished in today's game with the DoF model.

He had expectations and standards. I can't quote him without looking, but he said that doing it on a Saturday wasn't enough. You have to do it every day.

I don't know if it was the same match Dave, probably not. I remember being sat in the Paddock. I think it was when he was playing for QPR. He got a lot of abuse and came over as a throw in was awarded. Shouted face-to-face to sit the gobshites down!!

I can't choose between Peter Reid and Southall as the 2nd or 3rd best Everton players I've witnessed.

Obviously, there is only one number 1. Or should I say 11?

From stories I read Robson nearly left Ipswich for Everton years before, but news of this was leaked to the 2 brothers that owned Ipswich way before Bobby had chance to speak to them. But all of this is a very long time ago of course.

From what you are saying, that certainly has been the case at times.

My own views are skewed because in my time as a supporter – loosely correlating to the Premier League era – the most obvious issue has been lack of money.

But the two things can be difficult to tease apart, I realise – so hopefully the new owners are not short of either.

Robert, your time will come. Then you won't have to listen to me from the 80s, those from the 60s and the much elder wise supporters.

You and your children will build your own memories and know exactly how it feels.

That's why we bore everyone to death with it!!

Keep going and keep the faith Robert. True blue who has grown up in a difficult period for our club, that soon, we can look back on as history. The future is blue. The city is ours.

And absurdly this finds me on a street in Phuket today, temperature around 40 C, sweat pouring out of me faster than I can drink bottles of water.

So I found this weird, quirky bar, The Mad Hog. Witches' brooms in the window, a front door that was 20 degrees off-true, and inside there is goblins on walls, like a trip to Transylvania... Dark, lit by lanterns and ultraviolet light. Funny, I thought… but sat at a table and ordered a long cool drink.

Sitting, waiting, drinking in this dark wizardry place, the ultraviolet light picked out a white EFC crest coming my way on a shirt bright as day... the guy sat on the next table.

I had to say something to a fellow Blue, didn't I? I never got the chance:

"Do I know you?" was the question he asked.

"Well I am an Evertonian" was my reply.

Laughter, jokes, of all the gin joints etc, middle of bloody Thailand.

But the he said, "I do know you... you're Christine, aren't you?"

Turns out he was in the same class as me in Netherton and his family emigrated to Australia, so Andy Metcalfe, if you're reading this, a shout out to a fellow blue from one who slightly worse for wear and a nod to those who think absurdities never happen!

BTW, great bar too!

Danny (129), I do exaggerate now and again!

Trying to replace the players that left wasn't easy; McDonald and Nevin were only average and the biggest problem I thought was that Reid's best days were gone and Bracewell was crocked sadly, which left a bigger hole in midfield.

Snodin eventually found his best position at full-back after all his hamstring problems and McCall wasn't good enough; we were in decline from then.

If the Club can solve his injury problems, sort out the economics, and it were to go through, then I would welcome him as he is a superb player.

In Everton, I have faith now.

My own feeling is that they are laughing their rocks off at the concept of this move.

He also overpaid for Tony Cottee, which messed us up in having the money for a complete re-build.

And in my totally unscientific system, not that effective. To me, a flat track bully. He didn't score the vital goals but added the "icing on the cake" (2nd and 3rd in a 3-0 win).

I agree. I think it's ludicrous that people believe this could happen, almost as ludicrous as Mitrovic signing for us.

Cue laughter track.

My memories are from my seat in the Upper Bullens, overlooking the penalty box at Gwladys Street end.

This thread may be more suited to the rumour mill, but we take what we can find in the summer months!

Hoping that Moyes and Co are not giving Johnny Stones serious consideration, we have fallen too far behind other clubs with more progressive strategies, we have to buy better, coach better, and develope from this point onwards.

Our recent history does not do us proud, I think we've learnt that much.

Good post. Agree with all of it. Thanks.