David Moyes slams “poor” penalties in the shootout against Sunderland

Penalties were pathetic and abysmal but we shouldn't have even been there. We were dreadful throughout and our penalty never was. Well beaten over 90 minutes.

Beto missed one against West Ham a couple of seasons back which was as bad as that miserable effort yesterday. Barry can't strike a ball so whoever put them on penalties wants choking.

McNeil, Tarkowski and Aznou were all available so let them take one -- not them two who haven't got an ounce of confidence in them.

The sooner we get our missing players back, the better, cos their replacements just aren't up to it.

Poor excuses from Moyes... yet again!!

Right. And this is in the first month of his second year in charge. His first year delivered a 60-point season, from a team which, when he took over, had scored 2 goals in 10 games.

When did we (you) become so hysterical and unreasonable?

Spoken like a true loser.

I thought that's what we are all saying, they were poor penalty attempts.

You say here and elsewhere there were 11 players out…

I wonder if you can name them all?

My other selection would have been Tarkowski because you can be certain he'd have absolutely wellied it.

Or did he, in true managerial fashion, just call for volunteers?

Still, given the injuries, he probably thought the others just represented 10 pressed men.

It's almost as if they knew this was a likely scenario and prepared for it... the cheating bastards.

By the finish, we had kids all over the place.

It could have been the coaching staff's order for the chippy after the game.

Little wonder the team also did.

Many don't have the same loyalty to the club as many supporters do, they are here for the money. They will move on to another club, kiss the badge and bank the money.

The game is so different to the older days, when players arrived in this area, played for the club, and settled down and stayed in the area after their footballing days were over.

It's a different footballing era; sadly, we can only accept it.

I would certainly play players in their proper positions.

And have given Aznou more game time.

Barry and Beto may be shite but they aren't injured.

Four months in the crucible of a Championship playoff race will season him into a top professional much better than sitting on our bench watching Garner, Gana and maybe Dewsbury-Hall or Iroegbunam play his position.

I think he would come back to us starter-ready for next season.

Did we not practice penalties in training? Obviously not; otherwise, surely they would have been better. That is a question that should have been asked.

We also need a set-piece coach because we don't know how to defend or score from them; our record at this time is awful.

But given our plight and The Friedkin Group's priority in initially stabilising their investment, I can see a logic in their actions. I think those of us whose vision is not clouded by their historical prejudices can admit that, despite it being less than palatable for some of us, it appears they've achieved their goal and David Moyes is doing precisely what he was brought in to do?

As for yesterday (and other recent performances), who among us doubts that most of those results would have been reversed with a full strength squad, and we'd been sitting where Brentford currently are (even despite two expensively acquired strikers who seemingly can't kick a ball, but that's for another thread).

How this goes on to unfold in the future, who knows, because I don't, although I fear those prejudices that clearly still exist will continue to surface.

Well, you could start from the beginning of the season and look at the Brighton and Crystal Palace games and see we were very lucky to get those 6 points.

Sunderland away, after starting the game very well, we were lucky to get a point. Same with the two home games vs West Ham and Aston Villa; after relinquishing the lead were very lucky to keep the point vs West Ham and in the Villa game, they looked more likely to get the winner.

In fact, if you look at nearly every home game, I doubt if there has been an outstanding performance... possibly Fulham, where the score flattered Fulham but even they were allowed to get back in the game.

I'm happy we have got those 29 points at this stage. If there are no newcomers, which looks very likely, then there could be some very shaky moments to come before the end of the season.

Another hop, skip and jumper, made our 3 look good….

Are you saying that Moyes didn't see that as important enough to give his full attention? As they say, the devil is in the detail.

Sunderland also had plenty of players unavailable. Macclesfield dumped a nearly full-strength Premier League team out of the FA Cup; we went out with a whimper yet again. Just like we always do, at home in the 3rd round.

We lose shoot-outs, most of the time. The RS win shoot-outs, most of the time. Penalties are a microcosm of being an Everton fan; optimism turns to despair within minutes.

You would think, knowing our record, that our team and manager would have pushed for a winner in extra time.

They might as well be injured for all the difference they make,

Two of yours got crocked on the pitch. Not really the same, is it?