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The BBC is reporting that Jack Grealish's preference would be to return to Everton should he leave Manchester City in the remaining days of the transfer window.
Everton have invested a huge amount into his extended recovery since sustaining a stress fracture in January, and he remained in this environment right through much of the summer, before eventually returning to Manchester City after Pep Guardiola had finally left.
Grealish made a great start on loan at Everton last season, scoring twice and providing 6 assists in his early games for the club. But he became increasingly less effective as defenders seemed to know exactly what he would try to do as the game slowed to a crawl when he would get the ball wide left, and be double- or triple-teamed by stalwart defenders.
Everton had the chance to convert his loan deal into a permanent one for the cool sum of £50M that would have made him the most expensive incoming player in the club's history. But that opportunity, and presumably the prospect of having to match his incredible £300k weekly wages, was ultimately declined by the club, and he returned to Manchester City in time for pre-season training under Enzo Maresca.
It's unclear just how much Maresca values him as part of the City squad, as he said on Thursday: "Jack is here. Until the day he is, it my duty to try and help him to give us the best. In the next four, five days, we will see what happens. I speak with Jack almost every day."
The 30-year-old winger has appeared as a substitute in City's opening two games of the season, but it is believed that Maresca is open to letting the Englishman leave the club before Monday night's transfer deadline.
Read more at BBC Sport: Grealish keen on Everton, Man City look at Ndiaye
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Jim Bennings
2 Posted 27/08/2026 at 12:09:29
2 Posted 27/08/2026 at 12:09:29
Seems like something that could really happen on deadline day if anything now.
I can't see City wanting to keep him just hanging around much more and paying the wages so they'd probably be wanting to move Jack on.
I hope it happens but somehow now I can't really envisage anymore incomings, what with the Delap prospect off the table and no real progress on a right back, there's only Grealish really left now to do a deal for.
I can't see City wanting to keep him just hanging around much more and paying the wages so they'd probably be wanting to move Jack on.
I hope it happens but somehow now I can't really envisage anymore incomings, what with the Delap prospect off the table and no real progress on a right back, there's only Grealish really left now to do a deal for.
Eric Myles
3 Posted 27/08/2026 at 12:30:05
3 Posted 27/08/2026 at 12:30:05
Given up on a right back Jim?
Andrew Ellams
4 Posted 27/08/2026 at 12:35:11
4 Posted 27/08/2026 at 12:35:11
Why though? We have two experienced but younger wide players in N'Diaye and Johnson and two younger players we need to develop in George and Dibling. Why do we need a fifth who's on his way down?
Terry Downes
5 Posted 27/08/2026 at 12:42:49
5 Posted 27/08/2026 at 12:42:49
If we have him he could be used behind Barry as a 10 he doesn’t have to be on the wing, I’m sure with his passing ability he would be a bonus more than a negative one ?
Still think we need another forward though maybe Richy would fit in on a cheaper scale ?
Still think we need another forward though maybe Richy would fit in on a cheaper scale ?
Andy Meighan
6 Posted 27/08/2026 at 12:43:28
6 Posted 27/08/2026 at 12:43:28
5 days to go and still no right back.
The clock is ticking Kinnear, you promised us a right back, you still haven't delivered on your promise.
As for Grealish id take him back in a heartbeat, and as Steve says loan Dibling out, the lad looks weak on the ball and short of confidence.
The clock is ticking Kinnear, you promised us a right back, you still haven't delivered on your promise.
As for Grealish id take him back in a heartbeat, and as Steve says loan Dibling out, the lad looks weak on the ball and short of confidence.
Bill Gall
7 Posted 27/08/2026 at 12:52:25
7 Posted 27/08/2026 at 12:52:25
Do we really need him, would it not be better to throw everything we have at a position that is needed and that is a right back. We have wingers and backups why waste money on a position we do not need.
I think signing Grealish, even though he is a good player, we are starting to get into the wrong market. Everton are starting to look like they are on track in the rebuilding program and signing Grealish is a miss use of any transfer money we have while still using other players at right back that would be better in the positions they where bought for. Even though he scored last night I still believe we need a more consistent #9 than what we have, so do not waste money on positions we have coverage for GET A RIGHT BACK.
I think signing Grealish, even though he is a good player, we are starting to get into the wrong market. Everton are starting to look like they are on track in the rebuilding program and signing Grealish is a miss use of any transfer money we have while still using other players at right back that would be better in the positions they where bought for. Even though he scored last night I still believe we need a more consistent #9 than what we have, so do not waste money on positions we have coverage for GET A RIGHT BACK.
Steve Brown
8 Posted 27/08/2026 at 12:53:34
8 Posted 27/08/2026 at 12:53:34
Andrew @ 4,
2 goals and 6 assists in 20 appearances for us. We don’t have that productivity elsewhere in the squad.
Only Illy came close to those numbers, and played 14 games more to get there.
2 goals and 6 assists in 20 appearances for us. We don’t have that productivity elsewhere in the squad.
Only Illy came close to those numbers, and played 14 games more to get there.
Peter Gorman
9 Posted 27/08/2026 at 12:54:35
9 Posted 27/08/2026 at 12:54:35
Before the summer I'd have said absolutely yes to signing a player of Grealish's quality.
How often do you get a player of his ability so keen to come?
But now, having seen the boy George in his form and the signing of Johnson, I'm thinking maybe not, I prefer the pace of our current play and don't want it to slow back down.
I'd be happy either way
How often do you get a player of his ability so keen to come?
But now, having seen the boy George in his form and the signing of Johnson, I'm thinking maybe not, I prefer the pace of our current play and don't want it to slow back down.
I'd be happy either way
Jimmy Salt
10 Posted 27/08/2026 at 13:09:17
10 Posted 27/08/2026 at 13:09:17
Talkshite saying city are in for Illiman; I can smell a swap-type deal here and considering we value him at 80 mil, I wouldnt be suprised if city try to have our pants down on Grealish's valuation.
Lee Courtliff
11 Posted 27/08/2026 at 13:09:30
11 Posted 27/08/2026 at 13:09:30
Happy either way on this. Great player to have, but we have plenty of options if he doesn't come.
Andrew Ellams
12 Posted 27/08/2026 at 13:20:29
12 Posted 27/08/2026 at 13:20:29
Steve, 4 of those assists came in August so after that 4 goal involvements. Brennan Johnson managed 2 last night.
Josh Horne
13 Posted 27/08/2026 at 13:47:25
13 Posted 27/08/2026 at 13:47:25
Not for me anymore. George needs to be given a proper opportunity that will be removed if we bring back Grealish, presumably on astronomic wages.
John Collins
14 Posted 27/08/2026 at 13:53:46
14 Posted 27/08/2026 at 13:53:46
Ndiyae going the other way as part of the deal?
Si Cooper
15 Posted 27/08/2026 at 13:57:01
15 Posted 27/08/2026 at 13:57:01
Very much on the fence about this. Can see benefits, but also some potential pitfalls.
I don’t think going on loan really set Jarrad up the same way it has done for other players so I wouldn’t use him as a shining example of what is likely to happen with another on the same path.
I don’t think going on loan really set Jarrad up the same way it has done for other players so I wouldn’t use him as a shining example of what is likely to happen with another on the same path.
Keith Gleave
16 Posted 27/08/2026 at 13:57:01
16 Posted 27/08/2026 at 13:57:01
It doesn’t surprise me that this would be a last minute thing. When you look at his wages, nobody was going to pay them during close season.
More interesting, generally when a player has a significant injury, they recuperate with their owning club. This was not the case here, he was at finch farm. So,it got me to thinking about the loan contracts. If players go back to recuperate, are wages paid by the owning club. Interesting to see what is in contracts.
More interesting, generally when a player has a significant injury, they recuperate with their owning club. This was not the case here, he was at finch farm. So,it got me to thinking about the loan contracts. If players go back to recuperate, are wages paid by the owning club. Interesting to see what is in contracts.
Ian Wilkins
17 Posted 27/08/2026 at 13:57:56
17 Posted 27/08/2026 at 13:57:56
A fit Grealish adds quality, it also slows us down as a team at a time that, with the likes of George, we are starting to move quicker.
If Grealish comes I guess Ndiaye leaves, which for me is a shame.
Given both City and Arsenal fancy Ndiaye, and give current transfer prices then his price must rise.
If Grealish comes I guess Ndiaye leaves, which for me is a shame.
Given both City and Arsenal fancy Ndiaye, and give current transfer prices then his price must rise.
Jonathan Oppenheimer
18 Posted 27/08/2026 at 13:59:37
18 Posted 27/08/2026 at 13:59:37
I don’t want this, because as many others have said, I think it stunts George’s development.
At this point, I think it will likely happen because we’ll need someone to replace Ndiaye now that City are calling. I assume that means moving George to the right.
If it happens, but we get in £70-plus million to bring in Doue, plus another strong young player or two, it could prove savvy. The key is finding the next Ndiaye at £15-20 million, which isn’t impossible, but requires smart recruitment.
Still big questions on O’Brien, Beto, Alcaraz, Iroebugnam and Patterson, which could influence all of these decisions if we’re hard up for money.
At this point, I think it will likely happen because we’ll need someone to replace Ndiaye now that City are calling. I assume that means moving George to the right.
If it happens, but we get in £70-plus million to bring in Doue, plus another strong young player or two, it could prove savvy. The key is finding the next Ndiaye at £15-20 million, which isn’t impossible, but requires smart recruitment.
Still big questions on O’Brien, Beto, Alcaraz, Iroebugnam and Patterson, which could influence all of these decisions if we’re hard up for money.
Frank Knight
19 Posted 27/08/2026 at 14:14:27
19 Posted 27/08/2026 at 14:14:27
John 14 that’s how I read it too
Mark Ryan
20 Posted 27/08/2026 at 14:17:35
20 Posted 27/08/2026 at 14:17:35
Could Grealish be swapped with Illiman but that we play him as a 10 ?
Mark Taylor
21 Posted 27/08/2026 at 14:18:08
21 Posted 27/08/2026 at 14:18:08
Definitely no to losing Ndiaye and getting Grealish.
Bringing him in if we think Dibling would benefit from a loan would make a bit more sense but I see risk in doing that. Dibling is clearly immature for his age and finds settling anywhere quite hard, so giving him a gypsy life would maybe compound the problem. And Grealish would need a wage cut and minimal transfer fee.
If we have to sell Ndiaye in order to get a RB (and presumably for a lot less money) then that would not reflect well on the owners.
I don't think we the fans are the only ones who should be nervous about what happens in the coming days..
Bringing him in if we think Dibling would benefit from a loan would make a bit more sense but I see risk in doing that. Dibling is clearly immature for his age and finds settling anywhere quite hard, so giving him a gypsy life would maybe compound the problem. And Grealish would need a wage cut and minimal transfer fee.
If we have to sell Ndiaye in order to get a RB (and presumably for a lot less money) then that would not reflect well on the owners.
I don't think we the fans are the only ones who should be nervous about what happens in the coming days..
Mark Steers
22 Posted 27/08/2026 at 14:23:51
22 Posted 27/08/2026 at 14:23:51
It's funny how times are changing for Everton from say 3 years ago. I think the recruitment team are amazing and TFG must be buzzing. We've pulled in Johnson, Rohl, Hackney and Norgaard for the same price Forest are paying for Delap --truly amazing!!
So let's all enjoy watching our team march up the Premier League table. We've got a look of the '80s and we have Thierno Barry -- what more do you want?
If Grealish comes, great; if not, I'm sure we will find some more players by Deadline Day. Oh, and leave Dibling alone -- he will be okay, just like Barry.
So let's all enjoy watching our team march up the Premier League table. We've got a look of the '80s and we have Thierno Barry -- what more do you want?
If Grealish comes, great; if not, I'm sure we will find some more players by Deadline Day. Oh, and leave Dibling alone -- he will be okay, just like Barry.
Steve Brown
23 Posted 27/08/2026 at 14:31:07
23 Posted 27/08/2026 at 14:31:07
Andrew @ 12, do assists in August not count? If that is the case, no need to cite Brennan's goal and assist as they happened in the same month.
Last season, Johnson delivered 2 goals and 1 assist in 26 games so let's not get too excited just yet.
I doubt Ndiaye will go to Man City but good luck to him if he secures the move. £75M plus Grealish will do it.
Last season, Johnson delivered 2 goals and 1 assist in 26 games so let's not get too excited just yet.
I doubt Ndiaye will go to Man City but good luck to him if he secures the move. £75M plus Grealish will do it.
Liam Mogan
24 Posted 27/08/2026 at 14:43:05
24 Posted 27/08/2026 at 14:43:05
Grealish would struggle in No.10 position imo. Just doesn't have the legs anymore
Mark Murphy
25 Posted 27/08/2026 at 14:43:52
25 Posted 27/08/2026 at 14:43:52
No way we’ll get £75m plus Grealish for Ndiaye.
I really wouldn’t be surprised if it’s a straight swap in the McNeil Johnson mould.
And yes, theoretically, we could insist Ndiaye honours his 3 years contract and stays. But look what happened when we tried that with Jolean Lescott!
I really wouldn’t be surprised if it’s a straight swap in the McNeil Johnson mould.
And yes, theoretically, we could insist Ndiaye honours his 3 years contract and stays. But look what happened when we tried that with Jolean Lescott!
Nicolas Piñon
26 Posted 27/08/2026 at 14:58:12
26 Posted 27/08/2026 at 14:58:12
Grealish is worse than george an ndiaye on the wing and 30 years or more and has a ridiculous wage
He wouldnt be progress apart
Moyes doesnt play that kind of 10 on top
Tic, tac, tic, tac…
He wouldnt be progress apart
Moyes doesnt play that kind of 10 on top
Tic, tac, tic, tac…
Andrew Merrick
27 Posted 27/08/2026 at 15:02:43
27 Posted 27/08/2026 at 15:02:43
As much as I enjoyed watching Jack in our shirt, he would be a very expensive older luxury player, I think that moment has passed.
We have wide players now with pace, we have more energy and movement in our mid, spending now has to focus on defense, and it has to be NOW
We have wide players now with pace, we have more energy and movement in our mid, spending now has to focus on defense, and it has to be NOW
Jay Harris
28 Posted 27/08/2026 at 15:04:39
28 Posted 27/08/2026 at 15:04:39
I have a number of issues with this.
As players get to 30 their lifestyle has a big effect on their fitness and just like Rooney Jack likes a drink.
Also Ndiaye has lit up the start of the season and all of a sudden we have pace and purpose in the team.
Letting Ndiaye go would be a disaster. Tell him if we don't get into Europe this season we will let him go at the end of the season but not before.
As for Jack our need is different now. We need goalscorers more than players who hold the play up and sit on the ball.
Ndiaye also seems to be close to Barry and developing an understanding with him so a swap would definitely be off the table for me even if we get a huge sum.
If we want to be a big team again we will not let Ndiaye go.
As players get to 30 their lifestyle has a big effect on their fitness and just like Rooney Jack likes a drink.
Also Ndiaye has lit up the start of the season and all of a sudden we have pace and purpose in the team.
Letting Ndiaye go would be a disaster. Tell him if we don't get into Europe this season we will let him go at the end of the season but not before.
As for Jack our need is different now. We need goalscorers more than players who hold the play up and sit on the ball.
Ndiaye also seems to be close to Barry and developing an understanding with him so a swap would definitely be off the table for me even if we get a huge sum.
If we want to be a big team again we will not let Ndiaye go.
Ray Jacques
29 Posted 27/08/2026 at 15:10:46
29 Posted 27/08/2026 at 15:10:46
There is not a cat in hells chance that Ndiaye stays if an offer comes in. This is Everton.
Derek Knox
30 Posted 27/08/2026 at 15:16:20
30 Posted 27/08/2026 at 15:16:20
Jay, at the end of the day, we fans have little or no say in how events unfold, or know what the individuals involved feel about a move. I'm afraid that precious commodity called loyalty doesn't exist any longer, that is if it ever did.
The immoral amounts of money involved and what can come the player's way, means they can be easily swayed. Like who wouldn't want to win the Lottery ?
The annoying thing for us, are false hopes, and belief that a player who is a favourite, wanting to jump ship if the money is enough !
The immoral amounts of money involved and what can come the player's way, means they can be easily swayed. Like who wouldn't want to win the Lottery ?
The annoying thing for us, are false hopes, and belief that a player who is a favourite, wanting to jump ship if the money is enough !
Mark Ryan
31 Posted 27/08/2026 at 15:44:25
31 Posted 27/08/2026 at 15:44:25
Well we know that Moyes loves Grealish. Jack has gone public on where he wants to preferably be.
If this doesn't t happen I can see a pram and toys being strewn everywhere. An interesting few days ahead...
If this doesn't t happen I can see a pram and toys being strewn everywhere. An interesting few days ahead...
Mike Gaynes
32 Posted 27/08/2026 at 15:50:57
32 Posted 27/08/2026 at 15:50:57
The equation for me on Grealish is simple. He's a gamewinner. We will win more games and score more goals with him than without him. His individual creativity is crucial in a squad largely bereft of it except for Ndiaye (who according to The Bobble is now the subject of talks with City) because every team needs somebody who can put a pass in like Grealish can.
Yes, there are complications like George's minutes and balancing salaries and loaning out Dibling, but I'll leave those details to management to figure out. I'm just a dumb fan and all I care about is winning. If Grealish stays at City, we leave points on the pitch, simple as that.
And he WANTS to be here.
Yes, there are complications like George's minutes and balancing salaries and loaning out Dibling, but I'll leave those details to management to figure out. I'm just a dumb fan and all I care about is winning. If Grealish stays at City, we leave points on the pitch, simple as that.
And he WANTS to be here.
Ian Burns
33 Posted 27/08/2026 at 15:53:55
33 Posted 27/08/2026 at 15:53:55
Unless Grealish can play right-back -- it is a huge No Thanks from me. He has passed his sell by date along with Tarks and Keane.
Boy George is doing Okay; Johnson could be Okay; Ndiaye is doing Okay, what would Grealish bring that takes us noticeably forward?
We need 3 positions filling and a slow winger is not one of them. At least at his speed he won't spill his beer!
Boy George is doing Okay; Johnson could be Okay; Ndiaye is doing Okay, what would Grealish bring that takes us noticeably forward?
We need 3 positions filling and a slow winger is not one of them. At least at his speed he won't spill his beer!
Scott Hamilton
34 Posted 27/08/2026 at 15:57:24
34 Posted 27/08/2026 at 15:57:24
In isolation, I'd have Grealish back in a heartbeat. His ability is beyond question, he wins fouls in key areas, and he showed last season that he's able to get assists aplenty.
My concern is that his return would be precipitated by the departure of Ndiaye, a player I think we should keep at all costs -- certainly for this season.
If we can have both players then I'll carry Jack to Finch Farm myself. If it's an either or scenario then, as much as it pains me, I'd opt for Ndiaye.
My concern is that his return would be precipitated by the departure of Ndiaye, a player I think we should keep at all costs -- certainly for this season.
If we can have both players then I'll carry Jack to Finch Farm myself. If it's an either or scenario then, as much as it pains me, I'd opt for Ndiaye.
Joe McMahon
35 Posted 27/08/2026 at 16:08:40
35 Posted 27/08/2026 at 16:08:40
Ian @33, agree with every word.
Jack's a really nice guy, but he's past his best after a serious injury. I'd rather keep Ndiaye and develop George (who has pace).
Jack's a really nice guy, but he's past his best after a serious injury. I'd rather keep Ndiaye and develop George (who has pace).
Steve Jones
36 Posted 27/08/2026 at 16:12:52
36 Posted 27/08/2026 at 16:12:52
Guys, I agree with the sentiment on keeping Ndiaye; however...
Illy goes down blind alleys, is not direct, lacks real pace, and is a bad finisher with a low return in terms of goals, assists and big chances created. The odd screamer does not make up for this.
We can easily get a replacement that in some respects is an upgrade in terms of pace, assists and goals.
His name is Baris Alper Yilmaz:
2024-25: 12 goals 3 Assists
2025-26: 8 goals 11 assists
Ndiaye:
2024-25: 9 goals 0 Assists
2025-26: 6 goals 3 assists
Illy's goals include penalties
Yilmaz works his bollocks off - Bags of pace and can stretch defences good recovery and can be very direct.
He would be the fifth fastest recorded last year against all players in Premier League.
BTW we have already put two bids in for him and Galatasaray are looking to bring in Sarr to replace him.
We just need to up the bid and we would be across the line.
Illy goes down blind alleys, is not direct, lacks real pace, and is a bad finisher with a low return in terms of goals, assists and big chances created. The odd screamer does not make up for this.
We can easily get a replacement that in some respects is an upgrade in terms of pace, assists and goals.
His name is Baris Alper Yilmaz:
2024-25: 12 goals 3 Assists
2025-26: 8 goals 11 assists
Ndiaye:
2024-25: 9 goals 0 Assists
2025-26: 6 goals 3 assists
Illy's goals include penalties
Yilmaz works his bollocks off - Bags of pace and can stretch defences good recovery and can be very direct.
He would be the fifth fastest recorded last year against all players in Premier League.
BTW we have already put two bids in for him and Galatasaray are looking to bring in Sarr to replace him.
We just need to up the bid and we would be across the line.
Stan Grace
37 Posted 27/08/2026 at 16:17:15
37 Posted 27/08/2026 at 16:17:15
Scott #34,
"If we can have both players then I'll carry Jack to Finch Farm myself."
I'll sponsor you.
"If we can have both players then I'll carry Jack to Finch Farm myself."
I'll sponsor you.
Scott Hamilton
38 Posted 27/08/2026 at 16:18:37
38 Posted 27/08/2026 at 16:18:37
Cheers Stan. I’ll do it full-on Speedo Mick plus diving goggles and a snorkel!
Stan Grace
39 Posted 27/08/2026 at 16:20:23
39 Posted 27/08/2026 at 16:20:23
On second thoughts...
Christy Ring
40 Posted 27/08/2026 at 16:29:33
40 Posted 27/08/2026 at 16:29:33
I think Grealish would be a great addition, he creates, seldom looses possession, and makes space for other players...
But not at the expense of losing Ndiaye, and we still need a fullback.
But not at the expense of losing Ndiaye, and we still need a fullback.
Terry Downes
41 Posted 27/08/2026 at 16:38:38
41 Posted 27/08/2026 at 16:38:38
Okay, lads, which is worse:
Being linked with every Tom, Dick and Harry all the time?
Or the silence we have now???
Being linked with every Tom, Dick and Harry all the time?
Or the silence we have now???
Sean O\\\'Hanlon
42 Posted 27/08/2026 at 16:53:22
42 Posted 27/08/2026 at 16:53:22
Sell Ndiaye for £100M and get Grealish thrown in. Dewsbury-Hall and Grealish work well together.
We've got plenty of great young talent on the pitch, as shown last night -- Ndiaye is not irreplaceable.
Besides, Man City got £85M off Spurs for Savinho, so they can afford it!
We've got plenty of great young talent on the pitch, as shown last night -- Ndiaye is not irreplaceable.
Besides, Man City got £85M off Spurs for Savinho, so they can afford it!
Andrew Ellams
43 Posted 27/08/2026 at 16:59:53
43 Posted 27/08/2026 at 16:59:53
If we replace Ndiaye for a man whose career is on a downward spiral, then this club deserves everything it gets.
The owners seem to be on a buy-to-sell mission now, so we can just give up and go home.
The owners seem to be on a buy-to-sell mission now, so we can just give up and go home.
Sean Kearns
44 Posted 27/08/2026 at 17:03:07
44 Posted 27/08/2026 at 17:03:07
His Instagram still says “Everton & England”... he also attracts a lot of media attention etc.
I read somewhere that we apparently had 7-9 extra televised games last season because he played for us, and we get around £1M for every primetime televised game.
So that's over half his wages paid for… just something I seen online a while ago, and for money grabber owners like we have, that sounds about right.
I read somewhere that we apparently had 7-9 extra televised games last season because he played for us, and we get around £1M for every primetime televised game.
So that's over half his wages paid for… just something I seen online a while ago, and for money grabber owners like we have, that sounds about right.
Mark Taylor
45 Posted 27/08/2026 at 17:14:05
45 Posted 27/08/2026 at 17:14:05
SCR makes Grealish a lot less appealing at £300k a week. He's 31 next week and I'd say he is an 'old' 31, especially after the last serious injury, and has lost whatever pace he had. I like what I have been seeing with fast transition and much more pace in the side. That doesn't play to his strengths. Most of all, it is one of the few positions that is (relatively) well stocked and so he's not a priority to add.
Just because he likes us doesn't mean he's worth £300k especially if there is any transfer fee involved. Surely we don't need to sell Ndiaye to get a decent right back?
Just because he likes us doesn't mean he's worth £300k especially if there is any transfer fee involved. Surely we don't need to sell Ndiaye to get a decent right back?
Bill Hawker
46 Posted 27/08/2026 at 17:17:11
46 Posted 27/08/2026 at 17:17:11
If he comes back, it won't be for £50M and he won't be on £300k a week. I think he knows he'd have to take a cut too.
I still think he has something to add to the club, but if he were willing to take a cut down to £75k to £125k a week, that might be doable. I couldn't see us buying him from City for more than £20-25M at the most.
I still think he has something to add to the club, but if he were willing to take a cut down to £75k to £125k a week, that might be doable. I couldn't see us buying him from City for more than £20-25M at the most.
Andrew Ellams
47 Posted 27/08/2026 at 17:23:45
47 Posted 27/08/2026 at 17:23:45
Grealish is done, Mark.
We're heading back to the bad old days of selling our best players and replacing them with has-beens.
We're heading back to the bad old days of selling our best players and replacing them with has-beens.
Stu Darlington
48 Posted 27/08/2026 at 17:29:04
48 Posted 27/08/2026 at 17:29:04
Mike @32, I agree totally.
Grealish has more talent and creativity than anyone we have got and you can't have too much of that in any team.
Sure, tactics, formations etc would have to be adapted to include George in the team, but from what I have seen George is quite capable of playing across the frontline.
I agree with Steve @36 about Ndiaye's limitations and, although his behaviour has been totally professional, he wants to play Champions League football, so I would surmise his heart and his head are not at Everton. For the player's own development, I think we should let him go if a satisfactory offer comes in.
Grealish has more talent and creativity than anyone we have got and you can't have too much of that in any team.
Sure, tactics, formations etc would have to be adapted to include George in the team, but from what I have seen George is quite capable of playing across the frontline.
I agree with Steve @36 about Ndiaye's limitations and, although his behaviour has been totally professional, he wants to play Champions League football, so I would surmise his heart and his head are not at Everton. For the player's own development, I think we should let him go if a satisfactory offer comes in.
Tom Bowers
49 Posted 27/08/2026 at 17:45:06
49 Posted 27/08/2026 at 17:45:06
Grealish will see less and less time at Man City and it's likely he will move but I don't think it's to be Everton.
We have some wide players now and if Ndiaye stays we will have options.
Grealish could be a help from midfield as he is built like Dewsbury-Hall and has possession and running ability as well as experience but it remains to be seen if Moyes wants him and how much money is involved. We will see.
We have some wide players now and if Ndiaye stays we will have options.
Grealish could be a help from midfield as he is built like Dewsbury-Hall and has possession and running ability as well as experience but it remains to be seen if Moyes wants him and how much money is involved. We will see.
Rocco Bugaj
50 Posted 27/08/2026 at 18:10:34
50 Posted 27/08/2026 at 18:10:34
As always, it all comes down to money. We probably don't have any left...
So, if we sign Grealish for a good price and on lower wages, we can invest the remainder of the fee earmarked for Iliman into a right-back. That would be fine by me.
So, if we sign Grealish for a good price and on lower wages, we can invest the remainder of the fee earmarked for Iliman into a right-back. That would be fine by me.
Sean Kearns
51 Posted 27/08/2026 at 18:30:51
51 Posted 27/08/2026 at 18:30:51
Rocco sounds like a club mole 🧐
Just saying… Queue the pitchforks!
Just saying… Queue the pitchforks!
Clive Rogers
52 Posted 27/08/2026 at 18:43:16
52 Posted 27/08/2026 at 18:43:16
I think we have to be carefull with Grealish. A year older after a long injury. Likes the occasional bender...
Another loan season with Man City paying a chunk of his wages would be the best option; I can't see City agreeing.
Another loan season with Man City paying a chunk of his wages would be the best option; I can't see City agreeing.
Stu Darlington
53 Posted 27/08/2026 at 18:55:40
53 Posted 27/08/2026 at 18:55:40
Andrew @47,
It's not often that I disagree with the points you make on TW, but I disagree with this one.
What evidence do you have that Grealish is done other than his age? Was Gareth Barry done? Phil Neville? Both added significantly to the team, and I believe Grealish can add a lot more than just on the pitch.
That being said, I accept that it all depends on the sums being favourable to Everton.
You seem to imply that we should not become a selling club, but can you name me a club in the world that is not a selling club apart from Real Madrid and PSG if the price is right?
Grealish is better than anything we've got at the moment and I can't see how that is a return to the bad old days.
It's not often that I disagree with the points you make on TW, but I disagree with this one.
What evidence do you have that Grealish is done other than his age? Was Gareth Barry done? Phil Neville? Both added significantly to the team, and I believe Grealish can add a lot more than just on the pitch.
That being said, I accept that it all depends on the sums being favourable to Everton.
You seem to imply that we should not become a selling club, but can you name me a club in the world that is not a selling club apart from Real Madrid and PSG if the price is right?
Grealish is better than anything we've got at the moment and I can't see how that is a return to the bad old days.
Andrew Ellams
54 Posted 27/08/2026 at 19:16:54
54 Posted 27/08/2026 at 19:16:54
Stu, Gareth Barry was the ultimate professional. No way would he have been lying unconscious drunk in bars if he was out injured.
Grealish is a liability and even without that he's barely had a preseason and is coming back from a foot injury which is a huge risk for a player who draws fouls the way he does.
Of course we sell if the price is right... but go out and invest that the way Brighton or Bournemouth would.
Grealish is a liability and even without that he's barely had a preseason and is coming back from a foot injury which is a huge risk for a player who draws fouls the way he does.
Of course we sell if the price is right... but go out and invest that the way Brighton or Bournemouth would.
Joe McMahon
55 Posted 27/08/2026 at 19:26:49
55 Posted 27/08/2026 at 19:26:49
Andrew @54, RE Gareth Barry, TBF I was surprised about this:
The 2018 Barcelona Incident - The Curfew Break: Barry, along with Jonny Evans, Jake Livermore, and Boaz Myhill, broke a team midnight curfew during their stay in Spain.
The Stolen Taxi: At around 5:30 am, the intoxicated players could not get food at a restaurant. They asked a taxi driver to go inside for them, and one of the players then drove the taxi away.
The Apology: The club launched an investigation, and the players later released a public apology for breaking the curfew and causing negative publicity.
The 2018 Barcelona Incident - The Curfew Break: Barry, along with Jonny Evans, Jake Livermore, and Boaz Myhill, broke a team midnight curfew during their stay in Spain.
The Stolen Taxi: At around 5:30 am, the intoxicated players could not get food at a restaurant. They asked a taxi driver to go inside for them, and one of the players then drove the taxi away.
The Apology: The club launched an investigation, and the players later released a public apology for breaking the curfew and causing negative publicity.
David West
56 Posted 27/08/2026 at 20:10:28
56 Posted 27/08/2026 at 20:10:28
It's still a possibility, but does it affect our other bussiness?
I'd rather see a RB & CF come and keep Ndiaye.
Think we may involved in few last minute deals myself, in and out.
I'd rather see a RB & CF come and keep Ndiaye.
Think we may involved in few last minute deals myself, in and out.
Paul Griffiths
57 Posted 27/08/2026 at 20:52:09
57 Posted 27/08/2026 at 20:52:09
An intrusion. Sorry. What lovely news that Spit Carragher is about to be declared bankrupt. Gordon does not just look right in a Barca shirt.
Jamie Gentry
58 Posted 27/08/2026 at 20:58:55
58 Posted 27/08/2026 at 20:58:55
Jamie Gentry
59 Posted 27/08/2026 at 21:03:00
59 Posted 27/08/2026 at 21:03:00
He is pure class, attracts more fouls than any other player and very rarely loses the ball unless fouled. He also does have other teams double up on him which creates space for the rest of the team. He loves our club and us fans. It’s a no brainer. Get it done. UTFT!
Rocco Bugaj
60 Posted 27/08/2026 at 21:10:01
60 Posted 27/08/2026 at 21:10:01
Dear Sean #51
I'm probably further away from the club than you are. More than 1,500 km.
I'm probably further away from the club than you are. More than 1,500 km.
Stu Darlington
61 Posted 27/08/2026 at 21:20:52
61 Posted 27/08/2026 at 21:20:52
Bit harsh that Andrew.You really don’t like him do you?
I thought his contribution before he was injured was quite impressive for a has been.
Thanks Joe for presenting Gareth Barry’s rap sheet,saves me raising it.
Just goes to show even the best sometimes have feet of clay!
I thought his contribution before he was injured was quite impressive for a has been.
Thanks Joe for presenting Gareth Barry’s rap sheet,saves me raising it.
Just goes to show even the best sometimes have feet of clay!
Brian Cleveland
62 Posted 27/08/2026 at 21:42:22
62 Posted 27/08/2026 at 21:42:22
I'm really surprised, but nobody has yet asked if Grealish can play RB...
Brendan McLaughlin
63 Posted 27/08/2026 at 21:48:31
63 Posted 27/08/2026 at 21:48:31
The WCRC probably have Brian #62
Stan Grace
64 Posted 27/08/2026 at 22:09:49
64 Posted 27/08/2026 at 22:09:49
Brendan,
I sent a reminder in the "Moyes bristles" article, but I'll post it here instead. Your 'homework" as you called it.
"Brendan, can you explain why we did so well in the cups and managed to finish 5th, 6th or 7th the same season? And why, if Moyes takes the cups seriously as he said in the interview, in 21 out of 25 cup campaigns his Everton teams didn't get beyond the 5th round?"
I sent a reminder in the "Moyes bristles" article, but I'll post it here instead. Your 'homework" as you called it.
"Brendan, can you explain why we did so well in the cups and managed to finish 5th, 6th or 7th the same season? And why, if Moyes takes the cups seriously as he said in the interview, in 21 out of 25 cup campaigns his Everton teams didn't get beyond the 5th round?"
Nathan Ford
65 Posted 27/08/2026 at 22:13:23
65 Posted 27/08/2026 at 22:13:23
Ndiaye and Beto to be sold for 85/90 million replaced with grealish, a decent right back and franculino dju and id be reasonably happy. Ndiaye seem's to want out to a top european club., he's not playing with a smile on his face so we need to get the best deal for the club.
Brendan McLaughlin
66 Posted 27/08/2026 at 22:30:29
66 Posted 27/08/2026 at 22:30:29
Saw it Stan #64
We mind the grand kids Monday through to Friday... so I only do the deep dives at the weekend.
However I did actually google to see if I could get a list of Moyes league and cup finishes but nothing... at least in an easily comparable format.
You didn't answer my, much more easier, teacher question either mate?
I wonder why?
We mind the grand kids Monday through to Friday... so I only do the deep dives at the weekend.
However I did actually google to see if I could get a list of Moyes league and cup finishes but nothing... at least in an easily comparable format.
You didn't answer my, much more easier, teacher question either mate?
I wonder why?
Mike Gaynes
67 Posted 27/08/2026 at 23:09:48
67 Posted 27/08/2026 at 23:09:48
Joe 55, well in on the Gareth Barry history. It’s funny what some folks don’t know.
Steve 36, great shout on Yilmaz, he would be an explosively exciting addition with his remarkable speed. He showed in the World Cup how he can get the butts off the seats. But it’s important to note he’s a completely different player from Ndiaye. He lacks the skill to beat anybody off the dribble except using sheer pace. And he is not at all interested in defense, whereas Ili was second on the club in tackles and the leader in recoveries. So in my view, Yilmaz is not a replacement for Illy at all. Certainly not without a strong right back behind him.
Steve 36, great shout on Yilmaz, he would be an explosively exciting addition with his remarkable speed. He showed in the World Cup how he can get the butts off the seats. But it’s important to note he’s a completely different player from Ndiaye. He lacks the skill to beat anybody off the dribble except using sheer pace. And he is not at all interested in defense, whereas Ili was second on the club in tackles and the leader in recoveries. So in my view, Yilmaz is not a replacement for Illy at all. Certainly not without a strong right back behind him.
Ian Wilkins
68 Posted 27/08/2026 at 23:11:59
68 Posted 27/08/2026 at 23:11:59
The next few days will be telling for TFG and the views of Everton fans towards them.
We put in place a supposedly best in class Transfer team to better position the club.
Our CEO talking about TFG investing every permissible pound on the team. Moving us forward every transfer window.
Will we end up with a better squad come 1st September or one that only equips us to limp through another season?
Mr Moyes is hinting the latter, that Owners won’t back him and invest. I really hope he’s wrong.
I also hope we’re not set to sell our better players putting last minute unused funds in the coffers.
We put in place a supposedly best in class Transfer team to better position the club.
Our CEO talking about TFG investing every permissible pound on the team. Moving us forward every transfer window.
Will we end up with a better squad come 1st September or one that only equips us to limp through another season?
Mr Moyes is hinting the latter, that Owners won’t back him and invest. I really hope he’s wrong.
I also hope we’re not set to sell our better players putting last minute unused funds in the coffers.
Stan Grace
69 Posted 27/08/2026 at 23:16:48
69 Posted 27/08/2026 at 23:16:48
I didn't think you were asking in seriousness, Brendan. You weren't far away. I'm a teacher trainer.
As you're busy with the grandkids, here's the info you need.
Moyes' seasons at Everton
2002–03
7th PL
3rd FA
4th LC
2003–04
17th PL
4th FA
4th LC
2004–05
4th PL
5th FA
4th LC
2005–06
11th PL
4th FA
3rd LC
2006–07
6th PL
3rd FA
4th LC
2007–08
5th PL
3rd FA
SF LC
2008–09
5th PL
Final FA
3rd LC
2009–10
8th PL
4th FA
4th LC
2010–11
7th PL
5th FA
3rd LC
2011–12
7th PL
SF FA
4th LC
2012–13
6th PL
QF FA
3rd LC
2024–25
13th PL (after taking over from Dyche)
4th FA (after taking over from Dyche)
N/A LC (Dyche still in charge)
2025–26
13th PL
3rd FA
3rd LC
As you're busy with the grandkids, here's the info you need.
Moyes' seasons at Everton
2002–03
7th PL
3rd FA
4th LC
2003–04
17th PL
4th FA
4th LC
2004–05
4th PL
5th FA
4th LC
2005–06
11th PL
4th FA
3rd LC
2006–07
6th PL
3rd FA
4th LC
2007–08
5th PL
3rd FA
SF LC
2008–09
5th PL
Final FA
3rd LC
2009–10
8th PL
4th FA
4th LC
2010–11
7th PL
5th FA
3rd LC
2011–12
7th PL
SF FA
4th LC
2012–13
6th PL
QF FA
3rd LC
2024–25
13th PL (after taking over from Dyche)
4th FA (after taking over from Dyche)
N/A LC (Dyche still in charge)
2025–26
13th PL
3rd FA
3rd LC
Brendan McLaughlin
70 Posted 27/08/2026 at 23:32:10
70 Posted 27/08/2026 at 23:32:10
Stan mate #69
That's no more easily comparable than the stuff I've googled but I'll work with it.
Teacher thing... I've got a 6th sense Stan
That's no more easily comparable than the stuff I've googled but I'll work with it.
Teacher thing... I've got a 6th sense Stan
Derek Thomas
71 Posted 27/08/2026 at 23:53:02
71 Posted 27/08/2026 at 23:53:02
Of course he would like to come here, especially on a big money, long term pension top-up, oops sorry contract.
He wouldn't want to waste the 48 grand he paid out for the fancy box either.
He seems a nice enough lad who likes a the odd late night on the pop, but hey we've all (mostly) been there.
Too old too expensive.
So for that read - I'm out.
There's always a potential bright side though.
Given TFG have already 'let Dyche go' for defeatist attitudes.
if the whole window turns into a total Dogs Breakfast...this is Everton after all...is theres an outside chance that Moyes / The 3 Amigos / TFG all see their collective arses and blame each other - a full on toys out the pram job resulting in harsh words and no going back?
I'm visualising 3 guys on 3 crosses all whistling for some reason
We can but hope.
He wouldn't want to waste the 48 grand he paid out for the fancy box either.
He seems a nice enough lad who likes a the odd late night on the pop, but hey we've all (mostly) been there.
Too old too expensive.
So for that read - I'm out.
There's always a potential bright side though.
Given TFG have already 'let Dyche go' for defeatist attitudes.
if the whole window turns into a total Dogs Breakfast...this is Everton after all...is theres an outside chance that Moyes / The 3 Amigos / TFG all see their collective arses and blame each other - a full on toys out the pram job resulting in harsh words and no going back?
I'm visualising 3 guys on 3 crosses all whistling for some reason
We can but hope.
Paul Kossoff
72 Posted 27/08/2026 at 00:20:57
72 Posted 27/08/2026 at 00:20:57
Iliman Ndiaye to Manchester city £40 million, Grealish to Everton free. Any takers?
Rocco Bugaj
73 Posted 27/08/2026 at 00:27:18
73 Posted 27/08/2026 at 00:27:18
Paul#72
That would make the price for Grealish too high. I think we could get him for £25–30 million. Ndiaye is worth £75–80 million. So, there should be at least £45 million left over.
That would make the price for Grealish too high. I think we could get him for £25–30 million. Ndiaye is worth £75–80 million. So, there should be at least £45 million left over.
Tom Bowers
74 Posted 27/08/2026 at 00:35:20
74 Posted 27/08/2026 at 00:35:20
Big mistake letting Ndiaye go unless he wants to go.
Sure the money is needed but not for Grealish who may not be as useful as a year ago and the flair of Ndiaye would be missed.
Any good money should be used for another striker but maybe Moyes will settle for Barry and Beto again unfortunately.
Sure the money is needed but not for Grealish who may not be as useful as a year ago and the flair of Ndiaye would be missed.
Any good money should be used for another striker but maybe Moyes will settle for Barry and Beto again unfortunately.
Derek Thomas
75 Posted 28/08/2026 at 01:05:30
75 Posted 28/08/2026 at 01:05:30
Paul @ 72; Only if he doesn't want wages as well.
Tom @ 74; being on 'only' £45,000 a week and having turned down 2 or 3 offers to double or triple his wages, I think we can safely say he might not be adverse to a move.
Tom @ 74; being on 'only' £45,000 a week and having turned down 2 or 3 offers to double or triple his wages, I think we can safely say he might not be adverse to a move.
Don Alexander
76 Posted 28/08/2026 at 01:25:37
76 Posted 28/08/2026 at 01:25:37
Grealish throughout his now long career has always been a piss-head, unarguably, even to him. Now all but 30 his condition re injury resistance is much more diminished as a result.
His reported salary is a no-no to a club thus far unable to sign a right full-back despite the allegedly fabulous wealth of the utterly silent owner we have, nonetheless extolled to the heavens by his/our US based agent MG.
Grealish with us to me seemed diminishingly arsed the longer we played him. Ndiaye much the same.
If you didn't know better you'd almost assume so-called professionals at every level of 21st century football just spout shite whilst exhibiting nothing like the commitment fans have, and massively pay for.
His reported salary is a no-no to a club thus far unable to sign a right full-back despite the allegedly fabulous wealth of the utterly silent owner we have, nonetheless extolled to the heavens by his/our US based agent MG.
Grealish with us to me seemed diminishingly arsed the longer we played him. Ndiaye much the same.
If you didn't know better you'd almost assume so-called professionals at every level of 21st century football just spout shite whilst exhibiting nothing like the commitment fans have, and massively pay for.
Steve Brown
77 Posted 28/08/2026 at 02:06:27
77 Posted 28/08/2026 at 02:06:27
Paul @ 72, pop another £20 million on that for Ndiaye. £60 million plus Grealish.
I think this is why there has been relatively little new business this summer. Kinnear has been waiting to sell an asset to finance deals.
£62.9m spent this summer to be covered by the transfer fee for Ndiaye. Net spend almost zero.
No wonder Moyes is looking pissed - the club won't even spend £40m in Doue at right-back despite earning £265m in commercial revenue last season.
I think this is why there has been relatively little new business this summer. Kinnear has been waiting to sell an asset to finance deals.
£62.9m spent this summer to be covered by the transfer fee for Ndiaye. Net spend almost zero.
No wonder Moyes is looking pissed - the club won't even spend £40m in Doue at right-back despite earning £265m in commercial revenue last season.
Eric Myles
78 Posted 28/08/2026 at 02:42:07
78 Posted 28/08/2026 at 02:42:07
Stu #48 "For the player's own development, I think we should let him go if a satisfactory offer comes in."
Have yo been re-reading Moyes comments about Baines when he tries to buy him as United manager?
Have yo been re-reading Moyes comments about Baines when he tries to buy him as United manager?
Paul Griffiths
79 Posted 28/08/2026 at 03:13:43
79 Posted 28/08/2026 at 03:13:43
It seems plausible to me that Saints Daniel-the-Absent and Angus-the-Silent believe that we starved fans might see last-day Grealish as some sort of consolation for the failures so far of our crack recruitment team and diagnostics to give us just one signing that we can genuinely put down to crack recruiters and diagnostics.
There are 126 hours to go until the window slams shut. It is disgusting that we are in this position, still scrambling round yet again in the last week, days, day to snatch someone. There is no planning here. No research. No sophisticated diagnostics.
But we brought Grealish back. Phew, some startling recruitment and diagnostics in that one.
Where the fuck is the 'Plan B' you told us about in December Saint Angus-the-Silent? Where is it? What is it?
126
There are 126 hours to go until the window slams shut. It is disgusting that we are in this position, still scrambling round yet again in the last week, days, day to snatch someone. There is no planning here. No research. No sophisticated diagnostics.
But we brought Grealish back. Phew, some startling recruitment and diagnostics in that one.
Where the fuck is the 'Plan B' you told us about in December Saint Angus-the-Silent? Where is it? What is it?
126
Annika Herbert
80 Posted 28/08/2026 at 04:12:53
80 Posted 28/08/2026 at 04:12:53
It's a no to Grealish for me, even though I do like him as a player. But his age, soon to be 31, is against him in my opinion. Given the younger players he may replace.
I just don't see a huge improvement in the team with Grealish in it, as good as he can be on his day.
We are scrambling for a right back and he wouldn't be high on my list of requirements at the moment.
His lack of pace negates any positives for me.
I just don't see a huge improvement in the team with Grealish in it, as good as he can be on his day.
We are scrambling for a right back and he wouldn't be high on my list of requirements at the moment.
His lack of pace negates any positives for me.
Alan J Thompson
81 Posted 28/08/2026 at 05:35:23
81 Posted 28/08/2026 at 05:35:23
If I could find somebody to continue my weekly wage of 300k for a few more years they'd be my preference too, plus I wouldn't have to move house.
We've got George, Ndiaye, Johnson and possibly Dibling so do we really need another who prefers playing wide left or can we see how keen he is on his preference next season when he'll have a lesser negotiating position as I don't see him moving anywhere permanent this year for lesser wages and a dry Saudi lifestyle less than appealing.
We've got George, Ndiaye, Johnson and possibly Dibling so do we really need another who prefers playing wide left or can we see how keen he is on his preference next season when he'll have a lesser negotiating position as I don't see him moving anywhere permanent this year for lesser wages and a dry Saudi lifestyle less than appealing.
Chris James
82 Posted 28/08/2026 at 06:41:43
82 Posted 28/08/2026 at 06:41:43
Ndiaye is a top player who's been incredible for us and I'd hate to lose him, but sounds like his head has been turned for a move... or we're looking to cash in; likely both. Let's face it, he was on his way to Saudi till the 11th hour a week or so back.
Assuming that is the case, then taking Grealish, plus a bag of cash, or Jack, Rico Lewis and a slightly smaller bag of cash, in return for a player we signed for £15M seems smart business.
Clearly we need a right back, and another forward, but the window isn't over yet, and it's not like we've done no transfer business.
We brought in Hackney and Norgaard to strengthen the midfield and Johnson to offer something else upfront, as well as completing the signings of George and Rohl. I'd argue we're stronger and more balanced than we were beforehand.
I'd also point out that we've won our first 2 games to nil and scored 6, plus Barry's starting to look like the player we thought we'd signed!
Assuming that is the case, then taking Grealish, plus a bag of cash, or Jack, Rico Lewis and a slightly smaller bag of cash, in return for a player we signed for £15M seems smart business.
Clearly we need a right back, and another forward, but the window isn't over yet, and it's not like we've done no transfer business.
We brought in Hackney and Norgaard to strengthen the midfield and Johnson to offer something else upfront, as well as completing the signings of George and Rohl. I'd argue we're stronger and more balanced than we were beforehand.
I'd also point out that we've won our first 2 games to nil and scored 6, plus Barry's starting to look like the player we thought we'd signed!
Ian Bennett
83 Posted 28/08/2026 at 06:48:33
83 Posted 28/08/2026 at 06:48:33
Sign Grealish, and sell Alcaraz.
Grealish can win a game, can score goals, create assists and can be the difference by keeping the ball to get the result.
Alcaraz doesn't.
In fact, Alcaraz does very little on the pitch. He will have his admirers on this page hoping he will come good. But that is all it is, hope.
Grealish doesn't need to play 38 Premier League games for the full 90. He can be rotated with the other attacking players.
Fairly easy decision if you want Everton to move forward. Sign effective players, and dump the shite.
Grealish can win a game, can score goals, create assists and can be the difference by keeping the ball to get the result.
Alcaraz doesn't.
In fact, Alcaraz does very little on the pitch. He will have his admirers on this page hoping he will come good. But that is all it is, hope.
Grealish doesn't need to play 38 Premier League games for the full 90. He can be rotated with the other attacking players.
Fairly easy decision if you want Everton to move forward. Sign effective players, and dump the shite.
Paul Griffiths
84 Posted 28/08/2026 at 07:02:34
84 Posted 28/08/2026 at 07:02:34
I have no idea why Man City want Ndiaye. Because they can?
They don't need him and I don't want 'consolation prize' Grealish.
They don't need him and I don't want 'consolation prize' Grealish.
Andrew Ellams
85 Posted 28/08/2026 at 07:04:43
85 Posted 28/08/2026 at 07:04:43
Ian. Grealish scored 2 goals last season and managed 6 assists (only 2 of which came after August).
He's a year older now, just coming back from a long-term foot injury, and we know he didn't exactly look after himself whilst he wasn't playing.
If he wasn't called Jack Grealish and that is what the club were proposing replacing Ndiaye with, this page would be in meltdown.
He's a year older now, just coming back from a long-term foot injury, and we know he didn't exactly look after himself whilst he wasn't playing.
If he wasn't called Jack Grealish and that is what the club were proposing replacing Ndiaye with, this page would be in meltdown.
Ian Jones
86 Posted 28/08/2026 at 07:27:38
86 Posted 28/08/2026 at 07:27:38
Grealish did appear to slow things down last year but I feel that may have been partly to do with a lack of confidence in the players he had around him and especially the forward line.
I got the impression that Grealish, Ndiaye and Dewsbury-Hall were always looking for each other to create a spark but were happy to involve Garner. If no movement ahead, Grealish needed to take safer option, often backwards.
I would take Grealish on loan again. If we can get decent money for Ndiaye, then sell. From what I've seen of George and Johnson, they can be smart replacements for Ndiaye.
It would be great if Dibling also came of age. The only thing that puts me off with Grealish is that players may also look to get the ball out to him first, therefore signposting our intentions, making playing against us easy.
I got the impression that Grealish, Ndiaye and Dewsbury-Hall were always looking for each other to create a spark but were happy to involve Garner. If no movement ahead, Grealish needed to take safer option, often backwards.
I would take Grealish on loan again. If we can get decent money for Ndiaye, then sell. From what I've seen of George and Johnson, they can be smart replacements for Ndiaye.
It would be great if Dibling also came of age. The only thing that puts me off with Grealish is that players may also look to get the ball out to him first, therefore signposting our intentions, making playing against us easy.
Eric Myles
87 Posted 28/08/2026 at 07:32:03
87 Posted 28/08/2026 at 07:32:03
Paul #84, exactly.
If TWers can see Ndiaye's shortcomings surely City can? What can they expect from him that we can't get? And if they're (hopefully) willing to pay the (rumoured) £70+ million asking price, why can't they spend that on a finished article player, or a fraction of it on a development player?
They just don't need Ndiaye and it weakens our team regardless of whether we get Grealish or not.
If TWers can see Ndiaye's shortcomings surely City can? What can they expect from him that we can't get? And if they're (hopefully) willing to pay the (rumoured) £70+ million asking price, why can't they spend that on a finished article player, or a fraction of it on a development player?
They just don't need Ndiaye and it weakens our team regardless of whether we get Grealish or not.
Ian Bennett
88 Posted 28/08/2026 at 08:02:21
88 Posted 28/08/2026 at 08:02:21
Ok, so I am assuming we cant count goals and assists in August now then? Gees, you best tell Thierno Barry, he will be gutted.
Absolute pap Andrew. He created or scored 8 goals from 18 games equivalent minutes - nearly 1 in 2. No other Everton player came anywhere close to that output from wing.
The team needs to be scoring 50-60 goals a season to have a good season, and Jack would contribute to upping the goal output, and necessary control of a game when required.
Ive not advocated selling Ndiaye in that post, ive advocated clearing out Alcaraz. He wont add 8 goal involvements in 18 games equivalent. He doesnt have it in his locker.
Fans come on here and bemoan a lack of trophy success. To win trophies, you need game winners that could make the difference in a semi final or final. Jack gives you that chance. From what ive seen and would expect, he would be in outstanding condition.
I am not against selling Ndiaye for £80m, but it needed to happen at the start of the window and not now. The possibilities with £80m are massive, if you can trust the recruitment team to get deals over the line.
Absolute pap Andrew. He created or scored 8 goals from 18 games equivalent minutes - nearly 1 in 2. No other Everton player came anywhere close to that output from wing.
The team needs to be scoring 50-60 goals a season to have a good season, and Jack would contribute to upping the goal output, and necessary control of a game when required.
Ive not advocated selling Ndiaye in that post, ive advocated clearing out Alcaraz. He wont add 8 goal involvements in 18 games equivalent. He doesnt have it in his locker.
Fans come on here and bemoan a lack of trophy success. To win trophies, you need game winners that could make the difference in a semi final or final. Jack gives you that chance. From what ive seen and would expect, he would be in outstanding condition.
I am not against selling Ndiaye for £80m, but it needed to happen at the start of the window and not now. The possibilities with £80m are massive, if you can trust the recruitment team to get deals over the line.
Andrew Ellams
89 Posted 28/08/2026 at 08:40:53
89 Posted 28/08/2026 at 08:40:53
My point is Ian, after the first few weeks is output dropped right off. Even the two goals he scored were a lucky bounce of his foot against Palace and a huge deflection against Bournemouth.
What you've advocated is irrelevant, the point is it looks like there is a strong chance we will be selling N'Diaye and Grealish could well come the other way as part of that. Yet another backwards step from Dinosaur FC.
What you've advocated is irrelevant, the point is it looks like there is a strong chance we will be selling N'Diaye and Grealish could well come the other way as part of that. Yet another backwards step from Dinosaur FC.
Tony Abrahams
90 Posted 28/08/2026 at 08:42:53
90 Posted 28/08/2026 at 08:42:53
For the good of his career, I think Alcaraz needs to find a place were he is trusted; otherwise, he will never get a chance to become a really good player.
We have got Ndiaye, George, Johnson and Dibling, so my suggestion would be that, if we are going to be bringing in Grealish, then Tyler Dibling needs to leave Everton to go and learn his trade.
He's got obvious ability, but football doesn't wait for anyone and, when I've watched Tyler playing for Everton, he's letting the game pass him by.
I have always had a suspicion we will sell Iliman Ndiaye; if this happens, Everton will be suddenly taking away at least 50% of craft out of our team.
Andrew, Grealish has undoubtedly been a very good player, but by the end of his spell last season, his greatest gift was buying fouls for his team. He played well at Villa, which was his last game I'm sure, but so did the whole team, when the manager was forced to make changes.
Did David Moyes learn when he made those changes? Only he knows that... but he couldn't wait to return to type when he got a few of his players back.
We have got Ndiaye, George, Johnson and Dibling, so my suggestion would be that, if we are going to be bringing in Grealish, then Tyler Dibling needs to leave Everton to go and learn his trade.
He's got obvious ability, but football doesn't wait for anyone and, when I've watched Tyler playing for Everton, he's letting the game pass him by.
I have always had a suspicion we will sell Iliman Ndiaye; if this happens, Everton will be suddenly taking away at least 50% of craft out of our team.
Andrew, Grealish has undoubtedly been a very good player, but by the end of his spell last season, his greatest gift was buying fouls for his team. He played well at Villa, which was his last game I'm sure, but so did the whole team, when the manager was forced to make changes.
Did David Moyes learn when he made those changes? Only he knows that... but he couldn't wait to return to type when he got a few of his players back.
Andrew Ellams
91 Posted 28/08/2026 at 08:54:16
91 Posted 28/08/2026 at 08:54:16
Tony, replacing Ndiaye with Grealish would be a massive step. I do think people are getting over-excited because Grealish is or was a big name. To be honest, that makes us sound like a lower division club bringing in a big name on the way out.
With Alcaraz, he's 23 and has bounced from club to club for 5 years now. It must get to the point where he needs to maybe look in the mirror a bit.
With Alcaraz, he's 23 and has bounced from club to club for 5 years now. It must get to the point where he needs to maybe look in the mirror a bit.
Frank Knight
92 Posted 28/08/2026 at 09:00:21
92 Posted 28/08/2026 at 09:00:21
Were we not interested in Rico Lewis early in the window? Keep an eye out for Man City signing a right-back.
Grealish and Lewis for Ndiaye could work for both parties, I reckon.
Grealish and Lewis for Ndiaye could work for both parties, I reckon.
Dave Abrahams
93 Posted 28/08/2026 at 09:05:11
93 Posted 28/08/2026 at 09:05:11
Eric (87)City can definitely see Grealish’s shortcomings plus the added wages they have to pay him, that’s why they are desperate to get rid of him.
If we are daft enough to spend wages, that could be used elsewhere, then there is plenty wrong with our transfer committee that most of us can see, unless of course they surprise us with the promised right back and a couple of more decent signings.
Meanwhile I’ve heard that the fella we signed from Arsenal is doing a splendid job off the field cheering every player up and boosting their morale— mind you he still hasn’t managed to get a smile out of his manager even with two wins and no goals conceded.
If we are daft enough to spend wages, that could be used elsewhere, then there is plenty wrong with our transfer committee that most of us can see, unless of course they surprise us with the promised right back and a couple of more decent signings.
Meanwhile I’ve heard that the fella we signed from Arsenal is doing a splendid job off the field cheering every player up and boosting their morale— mind you he still hasn’t managed to get a smile out of his manager even with two wins and no goals conceded.
Mark Murphy
94 Posted 28/08/2026 at 09:08:26
94 Posted 28/08/2026 at 09:08:26
Whilst it's hardly an Alan Ball scenario, I'll be gutted if we sell Ndiaye. He's definitely one of very few players that get people off their seats when he gets the ball.
As for his “head being turned”, has he actually made any comment whatsoever agitating for a move? I sincerely hope that, if he does play at Bournemouth, he isn't subjected to any Judas shite.
As for Grealish and his age -- has anyone seen that footage of him in training this summer? The man's a machine! He looks like a lean Captain America! But I'd still prefer to keep Illy if that's the black and white of it.
As for his “head being turned”, has he actually made any comment whatsoever agitating for a move? I sincerely hope that, if he does play at Bournemouth, he isn't subjected to any Judas shite.
As for Grealish and his age -- has anyone seen that footage of him in training this summer? The man's a machine! He looks like a lean Captain America! But I'd still prefer to keep Illy if that's the black and white of it.
Laurie Hartley
95 Posted 28/08/2026 at 09:21:07
95 Posted 28/08/2026 at 09:21:07
Grealish to Everton this time round makes no sense from either a football or financial perspective. We are running at teams now. Grealish who is very good at protecting the ball, would put an end to that approach.
Including Ndiaye in such a deal would make a bad deal even worse. If Ndiaye is going, which will gut me but seems increasingly likely, we have to get top money for him and spend it on the defense and a loan deal for a striker.
Including Ndiaye in such a deal would make a bad deal even worse. If Ndiaye is going, which will gut me but seems increasingly likely, we have to get top money for him and spend it on the defense and a loan deal for a striker.
Andrew Ellams
96 Posted 28/08/2026 at 09:25:22
96 Posted 28/08/2026 at 09:25:22
Actually, Mark, the Alan Ball scenario maybe isn't that far off if you think about the impact and loss to the team here and now.
Paul Griffiths
97 Posted 28/08/2026 at 09:26:50
97 Posted 28/08/2026 at 09:26:50
Spot on, Laurie.
Andrew Ellams
98 Posted 28/08/2026 at 09:29:07
98 Posted 28/08/2026 at 09:29:07
If Ndiaye really is off, then maybe a better move would be to bring in Reiss Nelson who is now available on a free and invest whatever Man City pay in a right-back and a striker.
Maybe even Doue from Strasbourg.
Maybe even Doue from Strasbourg.
Brian Harrison
99 Posted 28/08/2026 at 09:43:55
99 Posted 28/08/2026 at 09:43:55
I read the comments from City supporters after Grealish came on as sub at the weekend and the massive majority were saying just get him gone.
While last season he helped us retain possession in the opponents half he slowed play down and to be honest at his age its ridiculous to even consider this deal. At present we have pace up front in Johnson and George and the one thing defenders hate is players with pace. The rumours are that Ndaiye is going to City and they will give us £35m plus Grealish and Rico Lewis, how adding an ageing winger and another midfield player how does that help our cause. The one area we are overloaded is central midfield, with Iroegbunam, Garner, Armstrong, Alcaraz, Norgaard, Hackney, Dewsbury Hall. We have needed another striker and a fullback, seemed Moyes was keen on Delap and Munoz, Forest have signed Delap and have put an offer in for Munoz.
I really cant see how this massive disconnect between TFG and Moyes can continue, its obvious that Moyes through the few interviews he has done isn't happy with the recruitment team, and who can blame him. I think Ndaiye wants out so why have we waited till the last few days of the window to letting him go. He has turned down new contracts that were offered which is basically saying I want away.
So we are now at the mercy of letting City dictate how they will get maximum leverage out of the Grealish deal. Moyes was asked did he think the club would get in the players he wants and he openly said he didn't think that would happen. TFG have made no overtures to Moyes over his contract that has only got 6 months left. TFG if you don't want Moyes then have the balls to sack him, but to be honest I don't trust TFG or Kinnear to appoint the right man. To those who have always trotted out the Moyes has the final say, do you really believe thats the case.
While last season he helped us retain possession in the opponents half he slowed play down and to be honest at his age its ridiculous to even consider this deal. At present we have pace up front in Johnson and George and the one thing defenders hate is players with pace. The rumours are that Ndaiye is going to City and they will give us £35m plus Grealish and Rico Lewis, how adding an ageing winger and another midfield player how does that help our cause. The one area we are overloaded is central midfield, with Iroegbunam, Garner, Armstrong, Alcaraz, Norgaard, Hackney, Dewsbury Hall. We have needed another striker and a fullback, seemed Moyes was keen on Delap and Munoz, Forest have signed Delap and have put an offer in for Munoz.
I really cant see how this massive disconnect between TFG and Moyes can continue, its obvious that Moyes through the few interviews he has done isn't happy with the recruitment team, and who can blame him. I think Ndaiye wants out so why have we waited till the last few days of the window to letting him go. He has turned down new contracts that were offered which is basically saying I want away.
So we are now at the mercy of letting City dictate how they will get maximum leverage out of the Grealish deal. Moyes was asked did he think the club would get in the players he wants and he openly said he didn't think that would happen. TFG have made no overtures to Moyes over his contract that has only got 6 months left. TFG if you don't want Moyes then have the balls to sack him, but to be honest I don't trust TFG or Kinnear to appoint the right man. To those who have always trotted out the Moyes has the final say, do you really believe thats the case.
Annika Herbert
100 Posted 28/08/2026 at 09:45:08
100 Posted 28/08/2026 at 09:45:08
I keep reading how creative Grealish is and how many goals he will either score, or create for us.
If he is that good, how come he isn't one of the first names on the City team sheet?
I like Grealish and have admired his play over the years. I just don't think he is what's needed now.
There is certainly no guarantee he will produce the same stats for us second time around. Every new player is obviously something of a gamble. I would prefer we gambled on a younger, speedier, player
If he is that good, how come he isn't one of the first names on the City team sheet?
I like Grealish and have admired his play over the years. I just don't think he is what's needed now.
There is certainly no guarantee he will produce the same stats for us second time around. Every new player is obviously something of a gamble. I would prefer we gambled on a younger, speedier, player
Jeff Armstrong
101 Posted 28/08/2026 at 09:55:12
101 Posted 28/08/2026 at 09:55:12
Forest bid £22M for Munoz from Palace.
That ship has now sailed.
That ship has now sailed.
Steve Shave
102 Posted 28/08/2026 at 10:19:18
102 Posted 28/08/2026 at 10:19:18
Let's not rule out the possibility of Lewis coming as part of the deal and a reduced price LOAN for one season of Grealish as a separate deal, with City covering some wages as before. If Illiman wants out I would be happy with that deal if it freed up some cash for us to buy another striker (moving Beto on). That way we have a right back, we cover the outgoing Illiman and we increase our chances of getting a decent striker in, the fella Dju thats been touted looks a good shout.
I agree with many above that Grealish on a perm makes no sense at all but I wouldn't say no to my above mentioned scenario. He could be used intelligently to preserve fitness and as many have already said, we have good young talent on the wings to cover. Jack has strong commercial value too, he certainly helped raise our profile last season when he was playing well.
I agree with many above that Grealish on a perm makes no sense at all but I wouldn't say no to my above mentioned scenario. He could be used intelligently to preserve fitness and as many have already said, we have good young talent on the wings to cover. Jack has strong commercial value too, he certainly helped raise our profile last season when he was playing well.
Ajay Gopal
103 Posted 28/08/2026 at 10:27:41
103 Posted 28/08/2026 at 10:27:41
Frank (92), I watched Rico Lewis closely in their game against Bournemouth, and he was regularly out of position and getting skinned by their winger. In my opinion, he is a worse right-back than Patterson - not that I think Patterson is bad, but that is the reputation he seems to have on TW. Rico was substituted by Maresca at half-time and Nunes came and showed how that position is to be played.
It is going to be an interesting next 4 days, and I will reserve my judgement until then. But getting Grealish in at the expense of the development of Dibling / George -? NO. But if Ndiaye is getting sold and Grealish is his replacement ? Meh..
It is going to be an interesting next 4 days, and I will reserve my judgement until then. But getting Grealish in at the expense of the development of Dibling / George -? NO. But if Ndiaye is getting sold and Grealish is his replacement ? Meh..
Mark Murphy
104 Posted 28/08/2026 at 10:35:41
104 Posted 28/08/2026 at 10:35:41
..."If he is that good, how come he isn't one of the first names on the City team sheet?"
is that a serious question, Annika?
I doubt N'Diaye will be one of the first names on their team sheet.
is that a serious question, Annika?
I doubt N'Diaye will be one of the first names on their team sheet.
John Collins
105 Posted 28/08/2026 at 10:45:18
105 Posted 28/08/2026 at 10:45:18
Not for me Lewis.
Very good as a kid, gone backwards last couple of seasons imo
Very good as a kid, gone backwards last couple of seasons imo
Mark Steers
106 Posted 28/08/2026 at 11:22:55
106 Posted 28/08/2026 at 11:22:55
Ndiaye has played the game -- no one in the Premier League was going to bid till it got out he was Saudi-bound. Now they all know he's available and wants out, they're going to go for him.
Possibly the best for Everton is make him available and get them bidding... then he might not get Man City who he wants. It could all be speculation and, if it is, I will be first to apologise, no problem.
Everton are well okay this season -- Top 8 is no problem. We have recruited well so far and before anyone mentions the right-back, I've been banging that drum for 3 or 4 seasons, so don't go there.
UTFT -- 3 points at Bournemouth.
Possibly the best for Everton is make him available and get them bidding... then he might not get Man City who he wants. It could all be speculation and, if it is, I will be first to apologise, no problem.
Everton are well okay this season -- Top 8 is no problem. We have recruited well so far and before anyone mentions the right-back, I've been banging that drum for 3 or 4 seasons, so don't go there.
UTFT -- 3 points at Bournemouth.
Mark Ryan
107 Posted 28/08/2026 at 11:39:57
107 Posted 28/08/2026 at 11:39:57
Ndiaye is going nowhere. Get Grealish in by hook or by crook. A better player than anything we have. Get it done but Get us a proper RB
Annika Herbert
108 Posted 28/08/2026 at 11:46:42
108 Posted 28/08/2026 at 11:46:42
Mark @ 104, well is he one of the first names on their team sheet?
No matter how many good players the so called top 6 accrue, the best ones are first on the team sheet. At the moment Grealish isn’t one of them at City.
No matter how many good players the so called top 6 accrue, the best ones are first on the team sheet. At the moment Grealish isn’t one of them at City.
Andrew Ellams
109 Posted 28/08/2026 at 11:47:55
109 Posted 28/08/2026 at 11:47:55
That's very optimistic Mark and I think you are going to be disappointed.
Eric Myles
110 Posted 28/08/2026 at 12:01:07
110 Posted 28/08/2026 at 12:01:07
Dave #93, I was referring to Ndiaye's shortcomings, not Jack's.
And while it's true that Grealish slowed play down and let the defence regroup then played inti the middle I always though that an overlapping left winger (wingback) would have been an advantage.
And while it's true that Grealish slowed play down and let the defence regroup then played inti the middle I always though that an overlapping left winger (wingback) would have been an advantage.
Brian Harrison
111 Posted 28/08/2026 at 12:03:45
111 Posted 28/08/2026 at 12:03:45
Just watched Moyes pre match interview, he said that no offers have been made by any club for Ndaiye, but added that might change. He said he has been impressed by Rohl at right back and on the fitness front Norgaard is struggling with an injury and Hackney rolled his ankle and is touch and go for tomorrow. He said Barry deserved a lot of credit for the work he has put in on his game. He said he is trying to get the best team he can for the Evertonians.
Vinny O'Connor from Sky after the interviews had finished was asked about possible incoming and outgoing transfers and he didnt think we would be busy but will try and bring in a player or two.
I get the impression that TFG have decided not to spend too much despite Kinnear saying they expected to spend more in this window than the one just gone. This window will tell us everything about TFG,s ambitions for the club. So far looks very uninspiring.
Vinny O'Connor from Sky after the interviews had finished was asked about possible incoming and outgoing transfers and he didnt think we would be busy but will try and bring in a player or two.
I get the impression that TFG have decided not to spend too much despite Kinnear saying they expected to spend more in this window than the one just gone. This window will tell us everything about TFG,s ambitions for the club. So far looks very uninspiring.
Eric Myles
112 Posted 28/08/2026 at 12:14:50
112 Posted 28/08/2026 at 12:14:50
Brian #99, Moyes's contract has 12 months left not 6 months, or are you Mystic Meg?
Brian #111, last window was Christmas when TFG played Scrooge and we got no pressies.
Brian #111, last window was Christmas when TFG played Scrooge and we got no pressies.
Steve Johnston
113 Posted 28/08/2026 at 12:15:13
113 Posted 28/08/2026 at 12:15:13
Brian 111
Moyes: "Merlin [Rohl] is thrilled to be starting games, he's desperate to play, desperate to show what he can do. By the way I think he's shown up really well in what he's done, I think that it's made maybe a few people question us talking about bringing in another right back."
That last sentence might be telling.
Moyes: "Merlin [Rohl] is thrilled to be starting games, he's desperate to play, desperate to show what he can do. By the way I think he's shown up really well in what he's done, I think that it's made maybe a few people question us talking about bringing in another right back."
That last sentence might be telling.
Eric Myles
114 Posted 28/08/2026 at 12:20:43
114 Posted 28/08/2026 at 12:20:43
Steve #113, "a few people" being TFG.
Ray Jacques
115 Posted 28/08/2026 at 12:23:11
115 Posted 28/08/2026 at 12:23:11
I will be sat in front of the telly on Tuesday night at 11.15 watching Vinny O Connor getting soaking wet outside Finch Farm, whilst behind him the gates are locked and the lights are all off.
Kevin Molloy
116 Posted 28/08/2026 at 12:26:35
116 Posted 28/08/2026 at 12:26:35
if we want to look at how TFG run things we have Roma as the example. Same spend as us in year one, then nothing for five years. They aren't here to win things, but to pump up the tyres and draw profit.
John Keating
117 Posted 28/08/2026 at 12:27:39
117 Posted 28/08/2026 at 12:27:39
In my opinion the only way we should consider Jack is if Illi goes
Illi, Boy George, Brennan and Dibbling should be enough to cover our season
Illi, Boy George, Brennan and Dibbling should be enough to cover our season
Iain Johnston
118 Posted 28/08/2026 at 12:33:53
118 Posted 28/08/2026 at 12:33:53
Grealish is in the final year of his contract why would or should we consider paying City anything? The lad can sit on his hands until January then sign for who he likes with one final massive signing on fee.
Let City continue to rehabilitate him - 6 months worth of sub appearances and if he's ok then give N'Daiye the move he wants in January then bring JG in?
We don't have to sell so again why should we? if Delap is £50m & Anderson £116m surely a contract protected valuation of N'Diaye is £90m?
Episode 4 Season 6 of the right full back saga...
My gut is telling me Iroegbunam's injury is what has done for us in terms of signing a right full back. The fee Hull were paying would have allowed us to buy... is this now why they're open to offers for JOB? A £30m fee for him gives us 2 x £15m down payments for A# his replacement & B# a decent full back.
Let City continue to rehabilitate him - 6 months worth of sub appearances and if he's ok then give N'Daiye the move he wants in January then bring JG in?
We don't have to sell so again why should we? if Delap is £50m & Anderson £116m surely a contract protected valuation of N'Diaye is £90m?
Episode 4 Season 6 of the right full back saga...
My gut is telling me Iroegbunam's injury is what has done for us in terms of signing a right full back. The fee Hull were paying would have allowed us to buy... is this now why they're open to offers for JOB? A £30m fee for him gives us 2 x £15m down payments for A# his replacement & B# a decent full back.
Mike Corcoran
119 Posted 28/08/2026 at 13:07:34
119 Posted 28/08/2026 at 13:07:34
118 good points
Mark Murphy
120 Posted 28/08/2026 at 13:07:49
120 Posted 28/08/2026 at 13:07:49
Annika there are a lot of very very good players at City who aren’t first names on their team sheet.
Many of them would be first names on ours.
And I don’t think a single one of ours, and I’m including Pickford, would be first names on City’s.
It’s just not a fair comment to say that Jack Grealish isn’t good enough for us as he’s not first choice at City.
Many of them would be first names on ours.
And I don’t think a single one of ours, and I’m including Pickford, would be first names on City’s.
It’s just not a fair comment to say that Jack Grealish isn’t good enough for us as he’s not first choice at City.
Steve Johnston
121 Posted 28/08/2026 at 13:24:15
121 Posted 28/08/2026 at 13:24:15
Indeed Eric!
I'm thinking Moyes downplaying any more signings (RB/FW).
I'm thinking Moyes downplaying any more signings (RB/FW).
Eric Myles
123 Posted 28/08/2026 at 13:30:09
123 Posted 28/08/2026 at 13:30:09
Ian #118, does Grealish's contract with City expire in January? If so, he can sign somewhere else on a free. But if it expires in June he cannot and would be subject to a fee, although reduced.
And the 'signing' (rather agreeing terms to sign) with another club with 6 months left on your contract only applies to other clubs outside your country.
So in all respects, if we want Grealish in January, he'll cost us, so why not wait until June?
And the 'signing' (rather agreeing terms to sign) with another club with 6 months left on your contract only applies to other clubs outside your country.
So in all respects, if we want Grealish in January, he'll cost us, so why not wait until June?
Eric Myles
124 Posted 28/08/2026 at 13:41:05
124 Posted 28/08/2026 at 13:41:05
Looking at it from TFG's perspective...
Jack Grealish: 31 years old, no sell-on value, fee £50M (but could be reduced by half?) £300k a week wages (possible reduction, but how greedy is he?)
Ndiaye: sell value of £70M(-ish) this season 'cos he's 3 years remaining on his contract, maybe £50M next year, £45k a week salary and he's turning down an increase.
Moneyman outcome: keep Ndiaye and forget Grealish.
Worst case: sell Ndiaye, don't replace him and forget Grealish.
Jack Grealish: 31 years old, no sell-on value, fee £50M (but could be reduced by half?) £300k a week wages (possible reduction, but how greedy is he?)
Ndiaye: sell value of £70M(-ish) this season 'cos he's 3 years remaining on his contract, maybe £50M next year, £45k a week salary and he's turning down an increase.
Moneyman outcome: keep Ndiaye and forget Grealish.
Worst case: sell Ndiaye, don't replace him and forget Grealish.
Andrew Ellams
125 Posted 28/08/2026 at 13:43:45
125 Posted 28/08/2026 at 13:43:45
Eric, if his contract ends in June, he can sign an agreement with a non-English team anytime from 1 January that will become effective on 1 July.
Eric Myles
126 Posted 28/08/2026 at 13:48:20
126 Posted 28/08/2026 at 13:48:20
Andrew #125.
Exactly what I said. Glad you agree.
Exactly what I said. Glad you agree.
Iain Johnston
127 Posted 28/08/2026 at 14:01:24
127 Posted 28/08/2026 at 14:01:24
Ah, so that's the caveat, thanks Eric.
In that case, for me, forget Grealish. If we can't afford a full-back, we certainly can't afford him.
In that case, for me, forget Grealish. If we can't afford a full-back, we certainly can't afford him.
Rocco Bugaj
128 Posted 28/08/2026 at 14:03:22
128 Posted 28/08/2026 at 14:03:22
Iain #116,
Your idea of buying in January is really appealing. But will Man City go for it?
By the way, we're reportedly interested in Trai Hume from Sunderland now. A right-back — exactly what we desperately need.
Your idea of buying in January is really appealing. But will Man City go for it?
By the way, we're reportedly interested in Trai Hume from Sunderland now. A right-back — exactly what we desperately need.
Iain Johnston
129 Posted 28/08/2026 at 14:07:28
129 Posted 28/08/2026 at 14:07:28
Eric, I'd not worry about your worst case, mate.
Moyes will simply play Rohl on the left and play Garner as a right fullback or Aznou in front of Mykolenko.
Moyes will simply play Rohl on the left and play Garner as a right fullback or Aznou in front of Mykolenko.
Eric Myles
130 Posted 28/08/2026 at 14:21:51
130 Posted 28/08/2026 at 14:21:51
Ian #129, what else could he do if TFG don't bring in a right back?
But my post was aimed at the Grealish - Ndiaye situation, not a right back. I think Tim Iroegbunam's injury and lost transfer revenue has scuppered the right-back situation.
But my post was aimed at the Grealish - Ndiaye situation, not a right back. I think Tim Iroegbunam's injury and lost transfer revenue has scuppered the right-back situation.
Ian Bennett
131 Posted 28/08/2026 at 14:44:38
131 Posted 28/08/2026 at 14:44:38
Alan Myers has said that the Hume story is rubbish.
They looked at him 12 months ago.
They looked at him 12 months ago.
Andrew Ellams
132 Posted 28/08/2026 at 15:08:12
132 Posted 28/08/2026 at 15:08:12
Why would Sunderland's vice captain seriously come to Everton when they are playing in Europe this season?
I'm starting to think the club now has somebody just throwing out names so it looks like they're at least trying.
I'm starting to think the club now has somebody just throwing out names so it looks like they're at least trying.
Annika Herbert
133 Posted 28/08/2026 at 18:55:39
133 Posted 28/08/2026 at 18:55:39
Mark @ 120, I never said, nor suggested, Grealish wasn't good enough for us. What I said was he isn't what we need at this moment in time. In my opinion, of course.
But some people were talking as if Grealish would be the second coming of Pele if he signed for us. I just think he would slow down what has, so far, looked quite a pacy attack.
But I never suggested he isn't a good player.
But some people were talking as if Grealish would be the second coming of Pele if he signed for us. I just think he would slow down what has, so far, looked quite a pacy attack.
But I never suggested he isn't a good player.
Rocco Bugaj
134 Posted 28/08/2026 at 19:42:57
134 Posted 28/08/2026 at 19:42:57
Andrew #132,
I think Everton has a list with the names of 462 right-backs. For weeks, names have been crossed off every day. Every now and then, that list gets shown to the press. 😉
I think Everton has a list with the names of 462 right-backs. For weeks, names have been crossed off every day. Every now and then, that list gets shown to the press. 😉
Mike Corcoran
135 Posted 28/08/2026 at 23:54:48
135 Posted 28/08/2026 at 23:54:48
A well known ITK has just told one of my lads that Grealish coming back is a done deal.
Mike Gaynes
136 Posted 28/08/2026 at 00:13:56
136 Posted 28/08/2026 at 00:13:56
Multiple reports have us putting in an offer for Munoz today.
Doue appears to be leaving the table as PSG may bring him in to join his superstar brother -- obviously an offer that would blow all other suitors out of the water.
There are also multiple rumours about a young striker with the fascinating name of Franculino.
Doue appears to be leaving the table as PSG may bring him in to join his superstar brother -- obviously an offer that would blow all other suitors out of the water.
There are also multiple rumours about a young striker with the fascinating name of Franculino.
Paul Griffiths
137 Posted 29/08/2026 at 03:36:18
137 Posted 29/08/2026 at 03:36:18
TFG somehow seem to believe that bringing in 31 in two weeks time Grealish (who will get injured) will be some sort of compensation (pay off) for a failure of a window so far where we have not seen a single scrap of evidence of world class recruiting and diagnostics. Not one.
We were promised 'Plan B'. Where is it Saint Angus-the-Silent?
No deal from today on will be the result of world class recruiting and diagnostics. It will be a late last-minute panic buy that might or might not work out.
For example, as Mike says, Franculino Du from FC Midtjylland of the storied Danish Superliga.
Meanwhile Fulham fork out a lowly looking £34.3 million for twenty-two-year-old Gonzalo Garcia (grandnephew of Rita Hayworth, by the way) from Real Madrid who scored a hat-trick for them in January and can play on either wing, centre forward, and support a la Inchy striker.
e has scored in both of his appearances for Fulham so far. He skips and glides across the pitch; he also has three famous Spanish dancers in the family tree.
We were promised 'Plan B'. Where is it Saint Angus-the-Silent?
No deal from today on will be the result of world class recruiting and diagnostics. It will be a late last-minute panic buy that might or might not work out.
For example, as Mike says, Franculino Du from FC Midtjylland of the storied Danish Superliga.
Meanwhile Fulham fork out a lowly looking £34.3 million for twenty-two-year-old Gonzalo Garcia (grandnephew of Rita Hayworth, by the way) from Real Madrid who scored a hat-trick for them in January and can play on either wing, centre forward, and support a la Inchy striker.
e has scored in both of his appearances for Fulham so far. He skips and glides across the pitch; he also has three famous Spanish dancers in the family tree.
Iain Johnston
138 Posted 29/08/2026 at 04:15:07
138 Posted 29/08/2026 at 04:15:07
Eric#130 we can only spend what we have and that was never a lot with the 11th highest turnover in the league. This is now compounded by having to budget wage deductions from the transfer kitty too. This is why, for me, signing Grealish is foolhardy.
Eric Myles
139 Posted 29/08/2026 at 05:35:35
139 Posted 29/08/2026 at 05:35:35
Paul #137, I'd say Grealish is a Moyes choice, not TFG.
Their MO seems to be get rid of highly paid players and bring in cheap ones.
Their MO seems to be get rid of highly paid players and bring in cheap ones.
Mike Gaynes
140 Posted 29/08/2026 at 06:27:30
140 Posted 29/08/2026 at 06:27:30
Eric #139, that's kinda silly, mate.
If TFG didn't want to pay Grealish, he wouldn't have been brought in last season, and he wouldn't be inbound now.
And if they don't want to pay a player, then Moyes can't sign him. The payor on the paycheck is Everton Football Club, not David Moyes.
If TFG didn't want to pay Grealish, he wouldn't have been brought in last season, and he wouldn't be inbound now.
And if they don't want to pay a player, then Moyes can't sign him. The payor on the paycheck is Everton Football Club, not David Moyes.
Paul Griffiths
141 Posted 29/08/2026 at 07:35:39
141 Posted 29/08/2026 at 07:35:39
Nick Woltemade on loan
Ian Wilkins
142 Posted 29/08/2026 at 08:02:48
142 Posted 29/08/2026 at 08:02:48
It feels like Ndiaye is going last day and Grealish coming last day, scrambling round for another loan or buy at right back is inevitable.
That would represent a poor transfer window imo.
That would represent a poor transfer window imo.
Kevin Molloy
143 Posted 29/08/2026 at 08:08:27
143 Posted 29/08/2026 at 08:08:27
Why are Man City waiting until the last day of the transfer window to get Ndiaye, when he could get injured today and ruin their plans? I wonder whether this is Everton telling them, we'll sell him last day? That way, they have the excuse of not reinvesting.
Normally you wait to last day to get a bargain, to put on maximum pressure and a take-it-or-leave-it scenario. That's not the situation here: Man City are happy to pay, and Everton aren't likely to be bullied like this.
So the only reason I can see for this delay is cos Everton want it this way.
Normally you wait to last day to get a bargain, to put on maximum pressure and a take-it-or-leave-it scenario. That's not the situation here: Man City are happy to pay, and Everton aren't likely to be bullied like this.
So the only reason I can see for this delay is cos Everton want it this way.
Annika Herbert
144 Posted 29/08/2026 at 08:08:57
144 Posted 29/08/2026 at 08:08:57
If the recruitment team we now have in place is elite, thank the gods we didn't get an average one.
Three more days and still no right back. Elite my arse.
Three more days and still no right back. Elite my arse.
Ian Wilkins
145 Posted 29/08/2026 at 08:44:15
145 Posted 29/08/2026 at 08:44:15
Are the recruitment team poor or are they operating with both hands tied behind their back?
Are our owners unwilling to invest all available (as Kinnear said they would) funds? Despite being down on player numbers, but up on revenue, we've spent the price of a an average player in the window thus far?
Is Moyes fully aware of all this, hence being frustrated and telling everyone that the squad is under strength?
Are our owners unwilling to invest all available (as Kinnear said they would) funds? Despite being down on player numbers, but up on revenue, we've spent the price of a an average player in the window thus far?
Is Moyes fully aware of all this, hence being frustrated and telling everyone that the squad is under strength?
Eric Myles
146 Posted 29/08/2026 at 08:56:35
146 Posted 29/08/2026 at 08:56:35
Mike #40, I'd reckon there's a compromise agreement between Moyes and TFG.
Kinnear has a budget to bring in young players for development and Moyes has a budget to bring in experience to win games.
That's why Kinnear's choices didn't get much game time last season. Or do you really think Moyes thought Dibbling is worth £40 million?
Kinnear has a budget to bring in young players for development and Moyes has a budget to bring in experience to win games.
That's why Kinnear's choices didn't get much game time last season. Or do you really think Moyes thought Dibbling is worth £40 million?
Steve Brown
147 Posted 29/08/2026 at 09:12:56
147 Posted 29/08/2026 at 09:12:56
Liverpool are signing Barcola for £123 million.
What is TFG’s fee ceiling per player? £25 to 30 million based on expenditure to date.
We started summer needing a right-back and striker, and 3 days out from the window closing same applies.
What is TFG’s fee ceiling per player? £25 to 30 million based on expenditure to date.
We started summer needing a right-back and striker, and 3 days out from the window closing same applies.
Kevin Molloy
148 Posted 29/08/2026 at 09:42:40
148 Posted 29/08/2026 at 09:42:40
Ornstein no less reckons forest working hard on transfer of Harrison. £40m
Jeff Armstrong
149 Posted 29/08/2026 at 09:50:37
149 Posted 29/08/2026 at 09:50:37
Forest have the Anderson cash to splash, Armstrong at 40 million will prove good business, but there is no way we are selling.Ornstein may hay have a insight on what Forest want, but that’s not a guarantee that it will happen.
I think Moyes would walk if it did.
I think Moyes would walk if it did.
John Collins
150 Posted 29/08/2026 at 09:53:04
150 Posted 29/08/2026 at 09:53:04
Two days left to fill a position every single Evertonian knows we have required for a long time.
Amatuer hour by the looks of it.
If, IF, TFG don't spend every penny allowed under the law we will know what their project is at our club.
Amatuer hour by the looks of it.
If, IF, TFG don't spend every penny allowed under the law we will know what their project is at our club.
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1 Posted 27/08/2026 at 12:02:26
If this happens then Dibling should go out on a season’s loan to a European team to develop.
We did this with Branthwaite and he came back to be a first-team regular.