- I thought that Robert Earl was American ? he has the quietest speaking voice you will ever hear. Was asked to introduce himself by the shareholders prior to the vote to elect him and he did a very good job. Took a few questions thereafter about image rights / naming new stadium and dealt with these pretty well.
- A VERY smart move by the Board to have the 3rd party stadium consultant (Chris) attending. He gave a very good presentation as to why the Loop was a no-goer. In terms of overall common sense arguments his appeared to be one of the few to have been thought out.
- There is massive passion from those who don't want to go the Kirkby and an obvious quiet resignation from those who have thus far gone along with it.
- The anti-move block really needs to sort itself out as currently there is a clear "we don't want to leave and therefore you must redevelop Goodison" and those who simply don't want "the Kirkby option". Kenwright and Buster were (to me) obviously using this split as a divide and conquer option.
- The cost reasons for the Loop would appear to make it a non-starter
- I still have not heard a good reason against looking at the redevelop Goodison option. Suggestion of doing it piecemeal appears to have been discounted ? why?
- Too many anti - Kirkby voices are simply becoming emotional, verging on rude and thus are distancing themselves from and then losing the centre ground.
- Bill Kenwright may be a good orator etc but he is no businessman. Between him and Buster the figures of cost, capacity required, timeline etc kept moving. The overly emotional voices I referred to in 7 failed to pin either of them down on this.
- Despite what various reports may say, both Bill and Buster stated clearly that there never has been a plan B or plan C. These will only even be considered should Kirkby fall through.
- And finally, it was an AGM for a football club. David Moyes gave the last presentation and you wish that his clarity of thinking and level of planning was mirrored by the Board. He gave a very fair summation of where he wants to be come the end of the season ?basically the target is a trophy and a top 6 finish.
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1 Posted 05/12/2007 at 14:14:12
That’s a different story than "finishing in the top 10 is the same as finishing in the top 4 last year"....
2 Posted 05/12/2007 at 14:03:31
3 Posted 05/12/2007 at 14:31:33
Erik, I, like a lot of other people did say in a post the other day that what he says to the press should be taken with a pinch of salt. He has done that since day one, talks low but aims high. Its just his way.
4 Posted 05/12/2007 at 15:01:49
5 Posted 05/12/2007 at 14:58:04
6 Posted 05/12/2007 at 15:37:50
Just one thing that hasnt been mentioned - could the covering of part of the roads not be paid for by EU grants or similar?
7 Posted 05/12/2007 at 15:35:14
8 Posted 05/12/2007 at 15:26:51
9 Posted 05/12/2007 at 15:40:51
1] Purchase the available land.
2] Contribute the bulk of the cost towards the building of the new stadium.
3] The ongoing cost of redeveloping the existing road network (perhaps we could divert the mersey tunnel).
4] Who are Everton?s partners going to be and what?s in it for them?
The silence is deafening.
10 Posted 05/12/2007 at 16:10:31
11 Posted 05/12/2007 at 16:44:11
This is self-made, multi-millionaire, theatre impresario Bill Kenwright we are talking about here.
He knows more about turning a shekel than anyone on here.
He is a businessman working within his means. He could have done a Covenrty City on us and how delighted would we all be. We’re starting to sound like Skunks fans. "Dear Bill, bankrupt yourself and the club, for the chance, mind you, chance, that we might get to join the G14"
12 Posted 05/12/2007 at 16:50:42
13 Posted 05/12/2007 at 17:12:27
£30m for the best stadium in the UK and he mucked it up.
14 Posted 05/12/2007 at 17:19:11
A) How much would redeveloping Goodison cost?
B) Can we extend the footprint?
15 Posted 05/12/2007 at 17:13:51
16 Posted 05/12/2007 at 17:41:18
17 Posted 05/12/2007 at 17:19:29
18 Posted 05/12/2007 at 17:19:08
19 Posted 05/12/2007 at 17:51:55
I think what you meant to say was that other true Evertonians who you don’t happen to agree with voted differently from you.
20 Posted 05/12/2007 at 18:10:56
WILLIT also I apologise i’m not calling people from Kirkby woolyback’s coz they’re not it’s just the whole stadium move issue makes my blood boil. It’s the sheer principle of the matter that we are leaving the city that i can’t get my head round.
21 Posted 05/12/2007 at 18:42:25
The yes men who tell us "were moving" and to "get used to it" need to understand this
We?re Everton, and you may well be happy selling the clubs sole but we are not, we will fight this to the fucking bitter end
YOU GET USED TO THAT !
22 Posted 05/12/2007 at 22:24:03
23 Posted 05/12/2007 at 23:48:57
24 Posted 06/12/2007 at 00:10:33
Those throwing tantrums by threatening never to watch a game if we move to Kirkby are really pathetic. I saw my first game in 1946 and I will always support the Blues even if we move to Inuvik... that IS further than Kirkby for those who are rushing to look at an atlas
25 Posted 06/12/2007 at 00:26:32
The facts of the matter are quite clear. There has been a significant "Moving of goalposts" by Wyness regarding the cost of the move for starters. It started at a reasonably attractive figure and has escalated almost weekly.
There were photographs produced that made the stadium look attractive but these were artists impressions at night !
The latest set of photographs make the new stadium look like an afterthought in a shopping precinct ! The predominant feature in one of these photographs, if I remember correctly, was the bloody great Tesco mega store.
This may be the reason that those who voted Yes may, or may not, be having second thoughts.
26 Posted 06/12/2007 at 03:39:13
27 Posted 06/12/2007 at 05:21:43
i respect your record as an Evertonian, fair play to you, but it isnt about that. I’ve missed one home game and havent missed an single away game this season - cups apart - I dont expect to miss any more, so please, dont sit scouring your atlas trying to find a name you think the rest of us have never heard of, I’d watch EFC on the dark side of the fucking moon if the were drawn to play there on a tuesday night, but for home games, I want my team to play in the city it represents, I dont believe you yes men will ever get that
Call it "pathetic" call it "tantrums" Your disrepect for the people who’s only crime is to reject a move they believe will kill our club is in evey word you write.
Trust me pal, we will never sell out
The fight goes on
28 Posted 06/12/2007 at 09:43:06
I am sure local residents emotional objections to that would make the ?anti-Kirby? lobby look passive. LCC Compulsary purchases to build a football stadium - not a chance.
29 Posted 06/12/2007 at 11:13:54
30 Posted 06/12/2007 at 12:02:49
As ever with these meetings the person who frustrated me most was Bill Kenwright. He is the ownner, leader, boss of the business/club but he never acts like one.
It was clear that the main talking point of the night would be Kirkby and therefore he should have had the courage to stand up, make a statement, inform the shareholders of his decision and that the decision was final. If I am honest I voted for Kirkby because I honestly do not see any other financially viable options. If there is a Liverpool option then of course I would want us to stay. But regardless of that he is the owner and he should have the backbone to explain his decision rather than allow Wyness to take all the flak. As it is, because he wants to be loved by everybody, he did not stand up to the anti- Kirky faction. Instead he made matters worse by not answering any questions. The shareholders opposing Kirkby posed some excellent questions and he just nodded and asked for the next question.
As far as I am concerned, I have never rated or respected him as a leader of EFC because of his lack of stength. Even if I totally disagreed with him on Kirkby I would have more respect for him if he explained he had made his decision and that was that.
31 Posted 06/12/2007 at 12:22:44
Watching his long interview, it is obvious that he is a decent man who still thinks of himself as a fan, and wants to be loved by the fans. His problem is not corruption (still waiting for the evidence from those including the ed who have made these claims) - but weakness. He has created a good cop / bad cop routine with Wyness which is a not very good joke.
Watching Robert Earl’s interview though, who seems impressive and has a good track record, it is possible that he will provide some backbone. Apart from Terry Leahy, who we should thank God is onside for the Kirkby deal, Earl is the only one I have heard talking plain common sense on the move.
32 Posted 06/12/2007 at 13:49:05
Been Bankrupt twice, had great plans to expand worldwide ( over 100 stores - now mostly closed )
Share price reached highof $32 per share on day 1 went down to £1 per share by 1999 .
Not such a great businessman as they’d have you believe !
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