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Time to do something about it then!
By Lewis Morrison : 24/01/2011 : 
Comments (67) :
I think the time has definitely come for us Evertonians to stand up, speak out and let Bill Kenwright know that his time as Everton chairman and owner is well and truly up!
Comments (67) : I'm not talking about boos at the final whistle or ranting on the radio or having our say on the internet, it has to be much more serious and louder than that for the 'biggest Evertonian on the planet' to take notice. It has to be some sort of protest and the number of supporters need to be in their thousands... a few chants and boos are not going to work.
I know everyone looks for a leader or leaders in times like these so all those influential Evertonians, shareholders, supporters groups and campaign groups who have had enough of the lies, silent treatment, piss taking, playing up to the madia, lack of ambition, lack of investment and being alienated from our club, I'm calling on you to get the ball rolling, rally the troops and get all the fans together as one to force the people who are killing our club, OUT!!!
Us fans need to remember just how powerful and important we are. We are Everton and without us there is no Everton! Our club needs change and it is our duty to change it.
NIL SATIS NISI OPTIMUM
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Craig Taylor
2 Posted 24/01/2011 at 15:40:59
2 Posted 24/01/2011 at 15:40:59
I totally agree, Lewis. I posted something similar before Christmas and there have been similar posts since.
However, there needs to be someone with the ability, time and voice to be able to start the sort of protest that is required. I wish it was, but that person isn't me.
We need to be like the Villa fans that eventually forced Doug Ellis out.
I feel that it will not happen as the general opinion is that it isn't the Everton Way. But then perhaps that is why we are in this mess... Time moves on. Maybe things need to change in more ways than one.
However, there needs to be someone with the ability, time and voice to be able to start the sort of protest that is required. I wish it was, but that person isn't me.
We need to be like the Villa fans that eventually forced Doug Ellis out.
I feel that it will not happen as the general opinion is that it isn't the Everton Way. But then perhaps that is why we are in this mess... Time moves on. Maybe things need to change in more ways than one.
Shaun Kinnair
3 Posted 24/01/2011 at 15:55:36
3 Posted 24/01/2011 at 15:55:36
Well I can certainly create a facebook group campaign. As an internet marketer, I have the tools to create a big group of fans on facebook within a week?
But what will the campaign's name be? And what do we stand for? Any Ideas.....
If people are up for this then I'll do it.
But what will the campaign's name be? And what do we stand for? Any Ideas.....
If people are up for this then I'll do it.
James Hollister
4 Posted 24/01/2011 at 15:52:09
4 Posted 24/01/2011 at 15:52:09
Ok we get the board out, but then the real question is, who takes over?
If there is someone with money and the will, I am all for getting these corrupt bastards out of office, but until someone steps forward with the money and the intelligence, I just think it's a wasted effort.
And that's why Fat Kenwright and Co are happy being able to do all the things you say they do because they know they are untouchable.
Besides, I am not so sure you can just force out the shareholders of the club legally?
If there is someone with money and the will, I am all for getting these corrupt bastards out of office, but until someone steps forward with the money and the intelligence, I just think it's a wasted effort.
And that's why Fat Kenwright and Co are happy being able to do all the things you say they do because they know they are untouchable.
Besides, I am not so sure you can just force out the shareholders of the club legally?
Shaun Kinnair
5 Posted 24/01/2011 at 16:07:39
5 Posted 24/01/2011 at 16:07:39
But by doing nothing, then nothing gets done.
See Moyes has had no money for sometime so I dont blame him, he's been a good manager on the money he's been given....the only reason moyes has been able to buy is off the sale of other players (i.e. Rooney/Lescott)... but since then if you've noticed were not in the market for anybody, so therefore we go backwards instead of forwards.
If you love the club, and you care then shouldn't we start the ball rolling. It only takes a few to start something big.
See Moyes has had no money for sometime so I dont blame him, he's been a good manager on the money he's been given....the only reason moyes has been able to buy is off the sale of other players (i.e. Rooney/Lescott)... but since then if you've noticed were not in the market for anybody, so therefore we go backwards instead of forwards.
If you love the club, and you care then shouldn't we start the ball rolling. It only takes a few to start something big.
Chris Keightley
6 Posted 24/01/2011 at 16:15:31
6 Posted 24/01/2011 at 16:15:31
As mentioned this is not the Everton way - However you can bet the board is feeling the pinch, as negativity spreads fast and they are not immune give it time!!
David Israel
7 Posted 24/01/2011 at 16:16:00
7 Posted 24/01/2011 at 16:16:00
I feel sure that BK hasn't sold yet because he's not interested in doing so. So many clubs below our status have found decent new owners in recent years (which automatically excludes clubs like Portsmouth) that I cannot believe no serious offer from serious people has ever been made.
So, I totally agree with the thrust of Lewis' article: only if he's made to realize that he has outstayed his welcome will BK finally agree to sell. In the immortal words of Leo Amery (actually quoting Oliver Cromwell) to Neville Chamberlain in the House of Commons in 1940:
"You have sat too long here for any good you have been doing. Depart, I say, and let us have done with you. In the name of God, go!"
So, I totally agree with the thrust of Lewis' article: only if he's made to realize that he has outstayed his welcome will BK finally agree to sell. In the immortal words of Leo Amery (actually quoting Oliver Cromwell) to Neville Chamberlain in the House of Commons in 1940:
"You have sat too long here for any good you have been doing. Depart, I say, and let us have done with you. In the name of God, go!"
David Israel
8 Posted 24/01/2011 at 16:28:26
8 Posted 24/01/2011 at 16:28:26
James, you're right, you can't legally force out shareholders, but still, Agent Johnson was made to go, wasn't he?;-)
Tony Waring
9 Posted 24/01/2011 at 17:13:36
9 Posted 24/01/2011 at 17:13:36
Well Shaun how about "Restore Everton Pride" or "Give us our team back"". I'll happily join a Facebook campaign if it will do any good but as someone else has pointed out, who's going to replace the present lot of muppets ?
Jay Harris
10 Posted 24/01/2011 at 17:13:56
10 Posted 24/01/2011 at 17:13:56
David quite right Johnson was forced out and we need rid of this lying snake of a followon too.
Shaun, that's a very positive suggestion.
Cant we call it "Everton for change" or "The Everton supporter''s way" or "Toffees gone sour" etc.
I am sure by the end of the day some of our brighter wits will suggest something appropriate.
Anyway just tell us what we need to do and lets get it around the Everton websites before it's too late to salvage anything from the carnage that Kenwright is creating.
Shaun, that's a very positive suggestion.
Cant we call it "Everton for change" or "The Everton supporter''s way" or "Toffees gone sour" etc.
I am sure by the end of the day some of our brighter wits will suggest something appropriate.
Anyway just tell us what we need to do and lets get it around the Everton websites before it's too late to salvage anything from the carnage that Kenwright is creating.
Alan Clarke
11 Posted 24/01/2011 at 17:20:49
11 Posted 24/01/2011 at 17:20:49
People need to realise they're not in the minority when calling for Kenwright to go. Some fans last Saturday were labelled 'kopites' for shouting at Kenwright. It needs press coverage. Other fans will see it and hear it and join in. The fans who shout 'kopite' at the protestors will then keep their mouths shut because they'll feel like the minority.
A couple of big banners off the upper bullens balcony would be a good start. It is our duty as Evertonians to make sure our club survives and future generations will still have a club to support.
There are already KEIOC and Evertonians For Change starting or continuing campaigns. What are Colin Fitz's thoughts?
A couple of big banners off the upper bullens balcony would be a good start. It is our duty as Evertonians to make sure our club survives and future generations will still have a club to support.
There are already KEIOC and Evertonians For Change starting or continuing campaigns. What are Colin Fitz's thoughts?
Shaun Kinnair
12 Posted 24/01/2011 at 17:24:56
12 Posted 24/01/2011 at 17:24:56
Okay Guys, I'll start the ball rolling without going into detail my facebook tool will grab all peoples id's who have something on there facebook page which suggests they like Everton Football Club, then its just a case of sending a join our group request which I'll do wednesday sometime.
We need a name, so far we have "Everton for change", "Give us our team back", "Restore Everton Pride", "Toffees gone sour".... anymore.... maybe all so a vote on what we feel is the best...
We need a name, so far we have "Everton for change", "Give us our team back", "Restore Everton Pride", "Toffees gone sour".... anymore.... maybe all so a vote on what we feel is the best...
Luke Berry
13 Posted 24/01/2011 at 17:53:11
13 Posted 24/01/2011 at 17:53:11
Everton For Change.....has a good ring to it as it has the initials 'E-F-C'.....It could be something along those lines:
Evertonians For Change maybe?
I fully support this idea and will sign up.
Evertonians For Change maybe?
I fully support this idea and will sign up.
Steve Woods
14 Posted 24/01/2011 at 18:14:00
14 Posted 24/01/2011 at 18:14:00
@ Shaun 12
FYI over on NSNO they have started a facebook page "Evertonians for change" i.e. Kenwright out. They have over 1,000 votes to date.
Maybe worth getting in touch with them?
The facebook page is
http://www.facebook.com/EvertoniansforChange
FYI over on NSNO they have started a facebook page "Evertonians for change" i.e. Kenwright out. They have over 1,000 votes to date.
Maybe worth getting in touch with them?
The facebook page is
http://www.facebook.com/EvertoniansforChange
Shaun Kinnair
15 Posted 24/01/2011 at 18:40:44
15 Posted 24/01/2011 at 18:40:44
What I will do.... is grab all the NSNO and Evertonians for change id's from there facebook page and add it to a new group.... I'll go look for the Id's tonight and tomorrow. It takes quite a few scans of facebook to start. I'll take a look at this page tomorrow and decide on a facebook group. We may be able to nab a few converted fans from LA galaxy as well... :-) The more the better.
Steve Woods
16 Posted 24/01/2011 at 18:47:55
16 Posted 24/01/2011 at 18:47:55
@ Shaun 15
Well done pal. There is also a poll running on Blue Kipper which has been notoriously pro "establishment" in the past. The poll question is "Would you join in a protest against the current board of Everton Football Club to try and force them out of our club" To date 81% are saying that yes they would.
Times are a changing?
http://host1.easypolls.net/poll.html?p=38780
Well done pal. There is also a poll running on Blue Kipper which has been notoriously pro "establishment" in the past. The poll question is "Would you join in a protest against the current board of Everton Football Club to try and force them out of our club" To date 81% are saying that yes they would.
Times are a changing?
http://host1.easypolls.net/poll.html?p=38780
David Israel
18 Posted 24/01/2011 at 18:47:13
18 Posted 24/01/2011 at 18:47:13
I'm not on Facebook as I don't much go for this social network stuff, but I find it a good idea to popularise the movement in that fashion. How about setting up a blog as well?
Jamie Sweet
19 Posted 24/01/2011 at 19:23:53
19 Posted 24/01/2011 at 19:23:53
Tell me where to sign up! Now is the time to strike.
Our relatively decent run of form over the last few years has helped to mask what is essentially one of the poorest run clubs in the Premier League. Something has to change, and I think BK is still sitting a little too comfortably at the head of our beloved club and needs a bit of a wake up call. The lack of investment in our squad is criminal!
Our relatively decent run of form over the last few years has helped to mask what is essentially one of the poorest run clubs in the Premier League. Something has to change, and I think BK is still sitting a little too comfortably at the head of our beloved club and needs a bit of a wake up call. The lack of investment in our squad is criminal!
Karl Masters
20 Posted 24/01/2011 at 19:42:41
20 Posted 24/01/2011 at 19:42:41
Thin line between sucess and failure.
6 more goals turning six of those draws ( Wolves, Wigan, West Ham twice, Blackpool and Fulham ? ) into wins and we would have another 12 points and be fourth.
You'd all be cheering then.
6 more goals turning six of those draws ( Wolves, Wigan, West Ham twice, Blackpool and Fulham ? ) into wins and we would have another 12 points and be fourth.
You'd all be cheering then.
Chris Hockenhull
21 Posted 24/01/2011 at 19:43:15
21 Posted 24/01/2011 at 19:43:15
Shaun-add me too. Its been on my mind all day. I'm tired of hearing this 'not the Everton' way. Yeah too right its the Everton way - the Everton way is moaning behind the bosses back but no action. One only has to look across the park and see the result of our lovable red cousin's action and protest. They got it in the end. Nothing in the world has changed things more than people taking it up in protest. The time has come so 'Let's See Action'. It has to happen. The Times They HAVE To Change
David O'Keefe
22 Posted 24/01/2011 at 19:58:00
22 Posted 24/01/2011 at 19:58:00
Karl thats irrelevant. As for the discontent that is starting to rear its head, its been brewing since destination Kirkby was thrust upon us. Its taken a poor season to start to bring it the fore, but even if the team were performing well, it would still exist.
Gavin Ramejkis
23 Posted 24/01/2011 at 19:51:56
23 Posted 24/01/2011 at 19:51:56
Karl, you keep posting that on as many items as you can find, why not add if your auntie had bollocks she'd be your uncle, we didn't so it's past news and in many games we have barely deserved a draw.
Saturday live on ESPN with a global audience would be a great time to show plenty of folk what you think about Kenshite irrespective of the game we need banners calling for his arse out of the club.
Saturday live on ESPN with a global audience would be a great time to show plenty of folk what you think about Kenshite irrespective of the game we need banners calling for his arse out of the club.
Craig Taylor
24 Posted 24/01/2011 at 21:33:41
24 Posted 24/01/2011 at 21:33:41
Evertonians for Change is taking great shape on facebook. Eveyone sign up!
Mike Elbey
25 Posted 24/01/2011 at 21:31:04
25 Posted 24/01/2011 at 21:31:04
How about KEIOC ie Kenwright Exit Its Our Club (not your little toy).
Incidently, where as Bill been since the 2009 cup final ?
I get wound up about moyes negative tactics but the truth is he has worked wonders with NO support from Kenwright at all.
Incidently, where as Bill been since the 2009 cup final ?
I get wound up about moyes negative tactics but the truth is he has worked wonders with NO support from Kenwright at all.
John Shaw
26 Posted 24/01/2011 at 21:46:54
26 Posted 24/01/2011 at 21:46:54
Shaun (15) - good idea, let's see how quick the snowball effect kicks in, quite quick I reckon.
Shaun Kinnair
27 Posted 24/01/2011 at 22:03:30
27 Posted 24/01/2011 at 22:03:30
Hi Guys, my facebook tool has started and currently going through any tom, dick and harry who has had some link with Everton.
I'll let it run overnight currently it getting around 100 id's every 15 mins, so should have a few by wed night.
I'll then create a group, let me know what kinda name you'd like or I just go for the simple "Everton for Change".
I'll let it run overnight currently it getting around 100 id's every 15 mins, so should have a few by wed night.
I'll then create a group, let me know what kinda name you'd like or I just go for the simple "Everton for Change".
Col Noon
28 Posted 24/01/2011 at 22:09:14
28 Posted 24/01/2011 at 22:09:14
I am an avid tweeter and have a solid core of followers that are passionate blues. I will most defintley put a few suggestions out there and see how it goes. My gut feeling is that these guys are as pissed off as me. I will post that "Evertonians For Change" link on my timeline and spread the word about you guys on here.
Something has to be done and together we can make a differenece.
Something has to be done and together we can make a differenece.
Col Noon
29 Posted 24/01/2011 at 22:18:36
29 Posted 24/01/2011 at 22:18:36
In addition to my previous post. If any of you guys are on Twitter then follow me Col_N_EFC and we can gather pace with this. I will follow back and vice versa. I am currently thinking of a private message that I can send to my Twitter folk to get them aware...good thinking this guys, lets use our brains here!!
David Thomas
30 Posted 24/01/2011 at 22:17:44
30 Posted 24/01/2011 at 22:17:44
Guys,
I admire your passion to bring about this change. However, if Kenwright does leave, who is going to step into his shoes? Is their somebody that you all know about waiting in the wings with loads of cash?
I admire your passion to bring about this change. However, if Kenwright does leave, who is going to step into his shoes? Is their somebody that you all know about waiting in the wings with loads of cash?
David O'Keefe
31 Posted 24/01/2011 at 22:24:22
31 Posted 24/01/2011 at 22:24:22
Oh David Thomas has piped up with his concerns about those organising or talking about protests that he has no interest in, thanks for your concern.
Jay Harris
32 Posted 24/01/2011 at 22:40:20
32 Posted 24/01/2011 at 22:40:20
David #29
If you have cancer you try to get rid of it and worry about the recovery afterwards.
IMO nobody could be worse than Kenwright because he has no plan except to lie through his back teeth and is taking us backwards at a rapid pace.
If you have cancer you try to get rid of it and worry about the recovery afterwards.
IMO nobody could be worse than Kenwright because he has no plan except to lie through his back teeth and is taking us backwards at a rapid pace.
Robert Daniels
33 Posted 24/01/2011 at 22:50:06
33 Posted 24/01/2011 at 22:50:06
Dave Thomas,
Give it a rest, it's comments like yours that has stopped protests gaining pace; we're sinking fast, it doesn't matter who comes in.
If you don't want to join in, go and watch Blood Brothers!
Give it a rest, it's comments like yours that has stopped protests gaining pace; we're sinking fast, it doesn't matter who comes in.
If you don't want to join in, go and watch Blood Brothers!
Joe Brennan
34 Posted 24/01/2011 at 22:39:50
34 Posted 24/01/2011 at 22:39:50
I'm an old git! Joined Facebook,,,,,How do I find Evertonians for Change?
Shaun Kinnair
35 Posted 24/01/2011 at 23:08:14
35 Posted 24/01/2011 at 23:08:14
"Evertonians for Change"... will be made on wed night guys, I'm just collecting facebook id's.... so the group wont be anywhere until then.
Currently have 1600 id's and increasing.
Currently have 1600 id's and increasing.
Shaun Kinnair
36 Posted 24/01/2011 at 23:12:03
36 Posted 24/01/2011 at 23:12:03
What do you think the mission statement will be.... what's our cause?? For ownership change or for more money??? Give us a few suggestions!!
Robert Daniels
37 Posted 24/01/2011 at 23:29:23
37 Posted 24/01/2011 at 23:29:23
Shaun,
Think it should be for change,
he,s had 12 years?
Thats long enough, were gonna be relagated this year or next.
Think it should be for change,
he,s had 12 years?
Thats long enough, were gonna be relagated this year or next.
Steve Sweeney
38 Posted 24/01/2011 at 23:42:57
38 Posted 24/01/2011 at 23:42:57
Everton for Change
a few ideas
Everton for Change
To force a change in the ownership of Everton Football Club
In particular the removal as chairman of Bill Kenwright, who is in
Our opinion no longer a fit and proper person to be chairman
Of our football club.
To Publicly highlight the incompetence of the current Boardmembers
Of Everton FC and show how out of touch they are with the loyal fanbase.
To try and reunify the fans in the aftermath that was Destination Kirkby
Which has caused massive divisions within our loyal following,
a few ideas
Everton for Change
To force a change in the ownership of Everton Football Club
In particular the removal as chairman of Bill Kenwright, who is in
Our opinion no longer a fit and proper person to be chairman
Of our football club.
To Publicly highlight the incompetence of the current Boardmembers
Of Everton FC and show how out of touch they are with the loyal fanbase.
To try and reunify the fans in the aftermath that was Destination Kirkby
Which has caused massive divisions within our loyal following,
Shaun Kinnair
39 Posted 25/01/2011 at 00:13:49
39 Posted 25/01/2011 at 00:13:49
3500 ids... and increasing.
mmmm... steve (35)... maybe somthing less harsh... maybe not the removal but maybe new investment or ownership...
anymore thoughts??
mmmm... steve (35)... maybe somthing less harsh... maybe not the removal but maybe new investment or ownership...
anymore thoughts??
Roman Sidey
40 Posted 25/01/2011 at 06:26:51
40 Posted 25/01/2011 at 06:26:51
Karl Masters - yes if we had have won those games we would be in fourth. Do you know why we didn't win those games though?
It's because we either weren't good enough, or the manager didn't feel we had to subs to go on and win the games.
You cannot prove a point on things that might have happened but didn't.
And to anyone who is saying "who else can we get?"
Who fucking cares at this point? It's about letting whoever is running the club know that they have a duty to the club, not the other way around!
It's because we either weren't good enough, or the manager didn't feel we had to subs to go on and win the games.
You cannot prove a point on things that might have happened but didn't.
And to anyone who is saying "who else can we get?"
Who fucking cares at this point? It's about letting whoever is running the club know that they have a duty to the club, not the other way around!
Craig Taylor
41 Posted 25/01/2011 at 07:06:27
41 Posted 25/01/2011 at 07:06:27
Shaun evertonians for change already exists as a group fella!
Dale Hathaway
42 Posted 25/01/2011 at 07:57:34
42 Posted 25/01/2011 at 07:57:34
I would like to say that we as fans have a duty. I am all for removing Kenwright & Moyes from office.
Craig Taylor
43 Posted 25/01/2011 at 08:42:59
43 Posted 25/01/2011 at 08:42:59
One step at a time Dale. Kenwright and the board are the major problem.
Moyes has earnt the right to be given time with proper financial support.
He has batted above his weight for to long.
Moyes has earnt the right to be given time with proper financial support.
He has batted above his weight for to long.
David Thomas
44 Posted 25/01/2011 at 08:48:13
44 Posted 25/01/2011 at 08:48:13
Jay,
But surely if there is not somene waiting in the wings with money for us to compete in the transfer windows, enable us to improve Goodison or build a new stadium etc we are going to be in the same position?
But surely if there is not somene waiting in the wings with money for us to compete in the transfer windows, enable us to improve Goodison or build a new stadium etc we are going to be in the same position?
Gavin Ramejkis
45 Posted 25/01/2011 at 09:49:14
45 Posted 25/01/2011 at 09:49:14
David #42 unless BK is removed the next decision makers will be the whoever is appointed as the receiver. BK has held on far too long, if he loses every penny I no longer give a monkey's toss.
Ray Robinson
46 Posted 25/01/2011 at 10:00:37
46 Posted 25/01/2011 at 10:00:37
I suspect the drop in season ticket renewals in April will achieve far more than the Facebook petition. I think matters will come to a natural head shortly.
Brian Waring
47 Posted 25/01/2011 at 10:16:50
47 Posted 25/01/2011 at 10:16:50
David, at least BK will get the message.
Rod Jarvo
48 Posted 25/01/2011 at 11:13:23
48 Posted 25/01/2011 at 11:13:23
By the left foot of sheedy! How long as it taken Evertonians to get on to "biggest blue on the planet" Kenwright? The man has done no more than Agent Johnson achieved.
Let's face it, if Davie Moyes had not have worked wonders with the squad and budget etc, Kenwright's head would have been on the block years ago. Moyes has kept Kenwright where he is ? in a false position:
No money for transfers;
Mistakes with players contracts;
Failed... sorry, two failed stadium plans;
Investments??????
Spending money we haven't got ? NTL;
I'm pretty sure that you can peel of Kenwright's mask, like in Scooby Doo, and it will reveal "Old Man Johnson". The only difference between our current and former chairman is David Moyes.
In Moyes we trust!
Matthew Mackey
49 Posted 25/01/2011 at 11:59:50
49 Posted 25/01/2011 at 11:59:50
If there is nobody with money to actually take over then what do we gain?
On the other hand, if we force Kenwright to be a bit less narrow minded in his search for a predecessor then things may start to happen. And one way of doing this is to start a campaign (and see it through) where we, the fans, target a specific home game where none of us actually turn up. For example, if we broadcast the idea that a silent protest against the boards lack of ambition was going to take place on the day of the Chelsea cup game or the Birmingham midweek home game and that that protest would take the form of "none attendance" then when Kenwright takes his seat at the start and sees a packed away section and just a handful of home supporters then it might make him think. As long as he/they know in advance that we, the fans, will do this and then it actually happens then he might, just might reconsider his approach to Everton football club. And if he just poo poos the idea then we do it again at another targeted home game. Eventually the media will catch onto this and his hand will be forced. You see, we have more powere than we think, as long as we are prepared to stick together and carry it through.
On the other hand, if we force Kenwright to be a bit less narrow minded in his search for a predecessor then things may start to happen. And one way of doing this is to start a campaign (and see it through) where we, the fans, target a specific home game where none of us actually turn up. For example, if we broadcast the idea that a silent protest against the boards lack of ambition was going to take place on the day of the Chelsea cup game or the Birmingham midweek home game and that that protest would take the form of "none attendance" then when Kenwright takes his seat at the start and sees a packed away section and just a handful of home supporters then it might make him think. As long as he/they know in advance that we, the fans, will do this and then it actually happens then he might, just might reconsider his approach to Everton football club. And if he just poo poos the idea then we do it again at another targeted home game. Eventually the media will catch onto this and his hand will be forced. You see, we have more powere than we think, as long as we are prepared to stick together and carry it through.
Craig Taylor
50 Posted 25/01/2011 at 12:15:10
50 Posted 25/01/2011 at 12:15:10
Matthew,
I think that through all of this we must continue to support the team and manager.
All vocall protests should be before and after matches. Banners etc should be used during matches with vocals concentrating on cheers the boys on.
I think that through all of this we must continue to support the team and manager.
All vocall protests should be before and after matches. Banners etc should be used during matches with vocals concentrating on cheers the boys on.
Ray Robinson
51 Posted 25/01/2011 at 13:16:37
51 Posted 25/01/2011 at 13:16:37
Matthew @47. Just how not turning up for a home match is going to help the club, whose finances are in a parlous state, is anyone's guess.
I'd be in favour of turning up and remaining in the ground under the stands for the first 5 - 10 minutes of a match and then coming out to roar the team on.
I'd be in favour of turning up and remaining in the ground under the stands for the first 5 - 10 minutes of a match and then coming out to roar the team on.
Gavin Ramejkis
52 Posted 25/01/2011 at 13:25:16
52 Posted 25/01/2011 at 13:25:16
The not turning up doesn't have any impact on me as an example as I've already coughed for a season ticket which I've had for years, likewise I've autocup tickets so have already paid for that, banners in front of TV and Media, build up a head of steam, have the media asking him the questions when he slides back to his rat's nest in London. BK has a slot on Radio 2, cringeworthy crap, flood their switchboards with questions about him leaving the club, hound him morning noon and night and give him no safe haven to hide from the questions he should be answering for the fuck ups he has caused.
Jay Harris
53 Posted 25/01/2011 at 14:01:44
53 Posted 25/01/2011 at 14:01:44
David #42,
I agree there will be no instant fix unless a new owner pledges millions to reduce the debt and thereby reduce the interest cost.
However the current board has no plan either short or long term and are totally inept at running a football club therefore any one with business acumen would improve the running of the club over time with the added benefit of some honesty to the fans and small shareholders unlike the lying shyster that is our current chairman.
I agree there will be no instant fix unless a new owner pledges millions to reduce the debt and thereby reduce the interest cost.
However the current board has no plan either short or long term and are totally inept at running a football club therefore any one with business acumen would improve the running of the club over time with the added benefit of some honesty to the fans and small shareholders unlike the lying shyster that is our current chairman.
Mark Boulle
54 Posted 25/01/2011 at 14:16:02
54 Posted 25/01/2011 at 14:16:02
Shaun Kinnair - please add my name to your Facebook ID collection.
I'm a London-based Evertonian (lived and worked here all my life) and don't get to GP more than a couple of times per season, but, given the state the club is in at the moment, I would gladly lend my support to moves to get Kenwright and the rest of the Board out, attending more games than I can usually afford / have time for if necessary.
I'm a London-based Evertonian (lived and worked here all my life) and don't get to GP more than a couple of times per season, but, given the state the club is in at the moment, I would gladly lend my support to moves to get Kenwright and the rest of the Board out, attending more games than I can usually afford / have time for if necessary.
Rory Slingo
55 Posted 25/01/2011 at 14:38:32
55 Posted 25/01/2011 at 14:38:32
Joe #32,
Just type "evertonians for change' in the search bar at the top of your Facebook page and you should see it come up in the search result. Click into it and find the button labelled 'Like'. Click that and you're in!
Just type "evertonians for change' in the search bar at the top of your Facebook page and you should see it come up in the search result. Click into it and find the button labelled 'Like'. Click that and you're in!
Dale Hathaway
56 Posted 25/01/2011 at 15:04:18
56 Posted 25/01/2011 at 15:04:18
Craig, You want to support a successful team? Moyes must be removed, negative dour defense first tactics will not win us silverware!
Brian Waring
57 Posted 25/01/2011 at 15:10:02
57 Posted 25/01/2011 at 15:10:02
Just thought, if BK and Moyes pull a rabbit out of the hat by the end of the week, will all this protest just fade away, or is this the real deal, no matter what?
Tony I'Anson
58 Posted 25/01/2011 at 15:29:47
58 Posted 25/01/2011 at 15:29:47
Shaun (37) I can't understand why you are trying to get up another Facebook page with the same name as the one that exists. Can you please explain?
There are already loads of forums that we are all sruggling to keep up with so I can't see why we need yet another one with the same name. I really don't get it.
Matthew Mackey
59 Posted 25/01/2011 at 16:28:47
59 Posted 25/01/2011 at 16:28:47
Brian #55;- Show me the rabbit and i'll show you a smile !
Maybe you are right, a big signing will dampen the rebellion, but something tells me there ain't gonna be no rabbit this January.
Also if boycotting selective games isn't my best brainwave this year, then why don't we all just chant "KENWRIGHT OUT" from the 1st minute till the 90th. You never know, he might get the message.
Maybe you are right, a big signing will dampen the rebellion, but something tells me there ain't gonna be no rabbit this January.
Also if boycotting selective games isn't my best brainwave this year, then why don't we all just chant "KENWRIGHT OUT" from the 1st minute till the 90th. You never know, he might get the message.
Simon Magner
60 Posted 25/01/2011 at 16:33:14
60 Posted 25/01/2011 at 16:33:14
Hi guys, Evertonians for Change was setup and is ran by myself and a couple of other guys from NSNO. We currently have a facebook group with over 1000 followers, and are setup on twitter too. We will have a website up and running too and hope to have some bits in up and coming Everton related podcasts and maybe get some pieces in the fanzines. Check us out on facebook, or if you aren't part of the social networking revolution, drop me an email with any queries or requests that you have: bigdunc1982@hotmail.com
Hope to hear from you all soon!
Hope to hear from you all soon!
Karl Masters
61 Posted 25/01/2011 at 17:35:22
61 Posted 25/01/2011 at 17:35:22
David, Gavin and all others who object to me mentioning the thin line between success and failure:
Of course it's only ifs, buts and maybes, but it is nevertherless true.
I have no time for Kenwright and this current impotent Board and Moyes has frustrated the life out of me at times this season, although I do also think many very well paid players have only played in patches during games or made key errors that have cost us dear.
But, things can change very quickly with a few good results this season. I am just making the point that not everything is wrong with Everton FC, which demanding heads roll as you are would suggest. Demonstrating at games will get you nowhere.
Starting a campaign persuading BK to either allow a Fans Share Issue to generate capital might be more appropriate and ultimately more constructive as it will get positive media attention, ie Fans want to help, not Fans want a revolution.
It would also perhaps force his hand in revealing just why he seems to operate with one arm tied behind his back... a certain Spurs fan being the controlling influence we hear. Bringing that out into the open would go a long way to getting new Investment into the Club.
Of course it's only ifs, buts and maybes, but it is nevertherless true.
I have no time for Kenwright and this current impotent Board and Moyes has frustrated the life out of me at times this season, although I do also think many very well paid players have only played in patches during games or made key errors that have cost us dear.
But, things can change very quickly with a few good results this season. I am just making the point that not everything is wrong with Everton FC, which demanding heads roll as you are would suggest. Demonstrating at games will get you nowhere.
Starting a campaign persuading BK to either allow a Fans Share Issue to generate capital might be more appropriate and ultimately more constructive as it will get positive media attention, ie Fans want to help, not Fans want a revolution.
It would also perhaps force his hand in revealing just why he seems to operate with one arm tied behind his back... a certain Spurs fan being the controlling influence we hear. Bringing that out into the open would go a long way to getting new Investment into the Club.
Karl Masters
62 Posted 25/01/2011 at 18:13:18
62 Posted 25/01/2011 at 18:13:18
Maybe Andy Gray would take over. He's got lots of money, but not enough to make any real difference.
David Israel
63 Posted 25/01/2011 at 19:31:50
63 Posted 25/01/2011 at 19:31:50
Come to think of it, a more direct name would perhaps attract more attention than "Evertonians for Change" (I suppose currently any Evertonian is for change of one sort or another;-)). Something like "Out with Kenwright! Now!". After all, that is the main purpose of the enterprise.
But well done, anyway.
But well done, anyway.
Gavin Ramejkis
64 Posted 25/01/2011 at 20:08:19
64 Posted 25/01/2011 at 20:08:19
Karl, the share rights issue was raised a very long time ago at the same point Spurs did it, BK refused to discuss it. The DK hearings document in black and white the sheer arrogance of the major shareholders that not one of them are willing to sell or dilute their shares in the club, so again it's a non-starter. BK has skin thicker than a dozen rhinos he literally doesn't give a rat's arse ? remember what he did to his so-called friend that funded his purchase of the club originally (Paul Gregg).
Supposition over your few goals here and there as posted on far too many items still doesn't change the results which actually happened and as reminded many of which could have actually been a whole lot worse... Or, if a similar logic was applied, that the draws were losses then how that would have impacted the table today.
Supposition over your few goals here and there as posted on far too many items still doesn't change the results which actually happened and as reminded many of which could have actually been a whole lot worse... Or, if a similar logic was applied, that the draws were losses then how that would have impacted the table today.
Karl Masters
65 Posted 25/01/2011 at 23:09:43
65 Posted 25/01/2011 at 23:09:43
It is a thin line though Gavin.
Villa have won twice in 3 days and shot up the table and if the Shite beat Fulham tomorrow night and have that same 6 point boost in a few days they'll be 7th, only looking upwards and the talk will be of Europe and not of relegation. ie Doom and Despair, which there has been one hell of a lot of round here over the last few days ( granted the West Ham performance was very poor, but the result was only disappointing ) can very quickly change to a more positive view. Over the last few seasons we have been at this Doom stage before ( Wigan away Nov 2008, Blackburn home FA Cup Jan 2007 , Hull away Nov 2009 for instance) and yet the team has then swung things round 180 degrees. The same could happen this season.
I share all your concerns about where this is leading, but until a viable alternative to BK and his cronies steps forward, I don't see any real change.
Basically Moyes, with his limitations, is still going to be the best man to get us Top 8 finishes and some European action on a budget that would not look out of place in the Championship. We have to suffer the lows with the relative highs and accept perhaps that 5th is about as good as it will get with our resources. It's depressing, but probably the reality of it all.
Villa have won twice in 3 days and shot up the table and if the Shite beat Fulham tomorrow night and have that same 6 point boost in a few days they'll be 7th, only looking upwards and the talk will be of Europe and not of relegation. ie Doom and Despair, which there has been one hell of a lot of round here over the last few days ( granted the West Ham performance was very poor, but the result was only disappointing ) can very quickly change to a more positive view. Over the last few seasons we have been at this Doom stage before ( Wigan away Nov 2008, Blackburn home FA Cup Jan 2007 , Hull away Nov 2009 for instance) and yet the team has then swung things round 180 degrees. The same could happen this season.
I share all your concerns about where this is leading, but until a viable alternative to BK and his cronies steps forward, I don't see any real change.
Basically Moyes, with his limitations, is still going to be the best man to get us Top 8 finishes and some European action on a budget that would not look out of place in the Championship. We have to suffer the lows with the relative highs and accept perhaps that 5th is about as good as it will get with our resources. It's depressing, but probably the reality of it all.
Simon Magner
66 Posted 26/01/2011 at 10:30:53
66 Posted 26/01/2011 at 10:30:53
The problem is Karl, you don't know what is happening at boardroom level. Bill says we're for sale, but Elstone said at the Kirkby appeal that no-one's shares were for sale. There is too much clouding what we know.
I'd love it if Bill came out and put a public price on the club, then we'd all know where we stood. I don't see any harm in making our value public. That way, we know he wants to sell instead of just merely looking for investment.
Gavin Ramejkis
67 Posted 26/01/2011 at 11:04:00
67 Posted 26/01/2011 at 11:04:00
Karl, the West Ham result was more than disappointing it was an abject disaster, a draw at the death only achieved because Picquionne got himself sent off. That's not a disappointment its a true reflection on our state of affairs.
Jamie Rowland
69 Posted 31/01/2011 at 10:03:27
69 Posted 31/01/2011 at 10:03:27
Moronic....no really, it's moronic.
Facebook, the world's most lacklustre protest, twitter comments...
Get a grip. Kenwright and others own Everton FC. you can chant as much shite as you want...he owns his share and chanting won't change that.
I know, why don't you all remortgage your houses, put the money into the 'E-F-C' charitable club fund and then use it to buy out Kenwright...
You won't do it because you will then be in the same position as Kenwright ? potless with a club to run... nice one!
Time to do something about it? ? should say 'time to go and have a think about it'...
Facebook, the world's most lacklustre protest, twitter comments...
Get a grip. Kenwright and others own Everton FC. you can chant as much shite as you want...he owns his share and chanting won't change that.
I know, why don't you all remortgage your houses, put the money into the 'E-F-C' charitable club fund and then use it to buy out Kenwright...
You won't do it because you will then be in the same position as Kenwright ? potless with a club to run... nice one!
Time to do something about it? ? should say 'time to go and have a think about it'...
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