2011 Philadelphia and Washington DC
Philadelphia Union, Wednesday 20 July, 7:30pm (Tickets on sale)
DC United, Saturday 23 July, 7:30pm (Tickets on sale)
Current table for the MLS Eastern Conference
Previous USA Tours
This will be the 6th time in 8 years that Everton will have played pre-season in the USA. Is it a "team-building jolly" that can be justified – or will the usual ToffeeWeb shouts of "poor build-up, poor start to season" be muted? For the record, here are the pre-season matches played in North America, along with the resulting season for you to judge. Looking at those records, it seems to be that since 2008 our season starts have been poor:
2004 — Houston
Pachuca (Mexico) W 5-2
Everton finished season in 4th place - W 18, D 7, L 13, F 45, A 46, Pts 61
2006 — Ohio and Dallas
Everton finished season in 6th place - W 15, D 13, L 10, F 52, A 36, Pts 58
2007 Salt Lake City and Los Angeles
Real Salt Lake — L 0-2
Everton finished season in 5th place - W 19, D 8, L 11, F 55, A 33, Pts 65
2008 — Chicago and Denver
Everton finished season in 5th place - W 17, D 12, L 9, F 55, A 37, Pts 63
2009 — Edmonton, Canada and Salt Lake City
Everton finished season in 8th place - W 16, D 13, L 9, F 60, A 49, Pts 61
Philadelphia Union v Everton
Philadelphia was awarded Major League Soccer's 16th team on 28 February 2008. Led by the ownership group of Keystone Sports and Entertainment, LLC, the club operated under the name MLS Philadelphia 2010 for most of 2008 and the early portion of 2009.
After thorough historical and fan research, the club announced its name, crest and colors on May 11th, 2009 at Philadelphia's City Hall. The club’s name and crest incorporate Philadelphia’s rich colonial history and vital role in the creation of our nation – the Union. The team's name was chosen following a 'Fan Vote' held between 19 January 2009 and 6 February 2009.
Philadelphia Union's primary colors are navy blue and gold, representing the Continental Army's uniforms during the American Revolutionary War.
Peter Nowak was introduced as the first ever Team Manager of Philadelphia Union on 29 May 2009. The club's first players were then acquired on 25 November via the MLS Expansion Draft
On 25 March 2010, Philadelphia played its first ever match, a 2-0 loss to Seattle Sounders FC. On April 10th, 2010, the club's Inaugural Home Opener, Philadelphia notched the first victory in team history beating D.C. United 3-2 in front of 34,870 fans.
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DC United v Everton
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United is four-time MLS Cup Champions (1996, 1997, 1999 and 2004) and winners of the 1996 and 2008 US Open Cup, the 1998 CONCACAF Champions Cup, the 1998 Inter-American Cup and the 1997, 1999, 2006 and 2007 MLS Supporters Shield.
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1 Posted 17/05/2011 at 18:58:56
2 Posted 17/05/2011 at 20:00:33
Would it be possible to start trying to arrange a pub meet the night before and for after each match?
Are you a local to either area? If so, where would be the best place to meet for a "sherbet or two"?
Does either club have seating arrangements organised for Everton fans?
Whatever information you can forward would help to make the "family gathering" more friendly.
I will only be taking in the Washington game, but would like to play a round of golf somewhere hilly (flat as fuck here in Houston!) on the Sunday after the match.....any takers?
Over to you...............
3 Posted 17/05/2011 at 20:06:49
4 Posted 17/05/2011 at 20:08:30
There is a place called Fado on Locust St downtown. I've never been inside but It's a soccer/rugby place and I hear it has a great atmosphere.
I don't think there are Everton supporters' sections at either game.
I'm an avid golfer but I'm planning on taking 3 subways and Amtrak to get to DC so I don't think I'll be bringing my clubs.
5 Posted 17/05/2011 at 21:22:00
6 Posted 17/05/2011 at 21:23:44
With EvertonUSA going defunct we've lost our "voice-piece". I think it best that a "local resident" would be the easiest person to arrange with the pub. However, if you are not comfortable with that, Pat, I can call them up like I did with the Salt Lake City hostelry and take it from there.
I've got your suggestion, let's sit back and see if there are any other suggestions/arrangements coming through.
7 Posted 17/05/2011 at 21:38:41
Look out for the story of Everton's visit to the US Capital city after the tour.
8 Posted 17/05/2011 at 22:55:12
9 Posted 17/05/2011 at 23:03:02
Similarly, at the opposite extreme we have the nonsense directly above, spouted by Chris Butler: "we play shite teams, beat them and then think we're world beaters."
Here's a though for you: neither of these theories carry any weight. The fact that the team has in recent seasons been slower and slower out of the blocks is yet another failing that needs to be laid fair and square at the door of our manager, whose staleness and lack of motivation for his players is really starting to stink the place out.
10 Posted 17/05/2011 at 23:11:11
11 Posted 17/05/2011 at 23:44:55
I have never considered them world beaters, and neither have the majority of fans here or back home. I consider that you exagerrate and criticise unfairly!
IF you had watched any of those US matches you would see that we are NOT fully match fit (training has just started) playing against MORE THAN reasonable opposition who are FULLY match fit half way through their league season. The 2 matches we did win were not exactly deserved, we were lucky (Pachuca, maybe not).
Everton's biggest failing, as far as I am concerned, lies in the fact that when they return to the UK they FAIL to build up on that match-fitness against the opposition they need to be playing.
It will be interesting to see who they end up playing against in August - as the majority of teams they play out here in July are not as bad as you think - yes, certainly not EPL standard, but Chelsea, Man Utd and Tottenham will agree with coming here too!
12 Posted 18/05/2011 at 01:17:18
So for all the English-base fans, please consider that this is a good way to build awareness of the team. Who knows, maybe some DC fans or Philly fans will walk away thinking, "I think I'll support that English team."
Or better yet, some rich guy who sees the news on TV might say, "I think I'll buy that rather than that NBA team."
Can someone make a FaceBook group to make it easier to follow?
13 Posted 18/05/2011 at 01:08:54
I do have to call into question the sense in these trips though. They are clearly not hugely beneficial to our playing squad on recent evidence. I also can't see how this could benefit us financially. Again, there is no evidence of a huge surge in income following our previous trips to the USA.
And finally, this year in particular, our boys don't deserve to be jetted around the world. I say keep them on Merseyside, call them back for pre-season training early ? get them playing friendlies against teams which are likely to park the bus (something we clearly struggle to deal with), and make sure that, come the first game of the season, there isn't one member of our playing squad that isn't at the absolute peak of fitness. No excuses.
Maybe let Baines and Distin have a pamper day at a spa somewhere to recognise that they at least came close to the kind of sustained levels of performance we expect from our players. Send the others to boot camp.
14 Posted 18/05/2011 at 01:32:44
I only wish we had found Hernandez instead of United ? the fan base would certainly have grown tremendously....and as far as I'm concerned, any one who supports Everton based on what they have seen is a TRUE football fan, not a success grabbing mutant!!!!
Nuff said; starting to get sentimental ? Brothers-in-arms and all that....
15 Posted 18/05/2011 at 01:40:30
Me too, IF I were living back home in Crosby again.
16 Posted 18/05/2011 at 04:07:02
17 Posted 18/05/2011 at 04:29:00
The pre-season tournament in Bangkok in 2005 (Man City, Bolton and Thai U23), whilst great for the Asian-based Blues, was obviously not on the same level. Not just cos of the oppressive heat/humidity, but the facilities. Great PR with Chang etc, but still not good preparation.
The trips are usually at the earlier stage, and clubs are back in Europe/UK for the final warm up games. If the players are not in good condition, that is a failure of the preparations, not the location.
Also, new players not coming in till the TV money is paid doesn't help.
18 Posted 18/05/2011 at 05:55:28
SKY changed their broadcast package this past season, and as such took on even more matches from the now defunct Setanta and half of ESPN's live Premier league coverage. The new deal that was secured now pays clubs throughout the season as opposed to the end. Our share of the TV money as obviously already gone on servicing debts and at the end of the season we'll be awarded the last pay check.
We also get the money from the Premier League for our position finish as well.
19 Posted 18/05/2011 at 07:45:40
But I don't and my honest opinion is that, from the point of view next season, Everton should be flying no further than 2 hours away and (after a couple of muscle-stretching games against Austrian alehouse sides) should be playing against teams in Europe's better leagues.
I mean why not France or Germany? A couple of hours away, plenty of support, decent opposition.
I wouldn't mind so much if someone could point to evidence of how these US trips (or Australia for that matter) improved anything, but...
20 Posted 18/05/2011 at 09:01:51
The thing about us having a poor start to the season is clear. However, there may be a flip-side to this.
Is there something about the way we prepare for the season that allows us to kick on after Christmas?
Still, I hope he's got something up his sleeve that enables us to be quicker out the blocks next season...
21 Posted 18/05/2011 at 12:23:11
? The lack of funds which causes Moyes to go into his preseason sulk.
? No new players coming into training and the managers bad attitude/sulking results in the squad getting disenchanted.
? Cue the sky money coming in and the last minute rushed bargain buys.
Hence we start the season with bad morale, an unsettled squad, new players unfamiliar with our set up/style, an unsettled first 11 and a manager with a full mard lip.
22 Posted 18/05/2011 at 13:40:00
The problem is when the team returns to the UK and plays weakened opposition like Cambridge and Preston before signing off against a mid-table Spanish side.
Not good enough.
23 Posted 18/05/2011 at 17:34:03
I agree with Liam though that once we get back we should really be testing ourselves more competitively. Why not organise something like the Emirates Cup? Boost revenue and give the team a decent competition to aim at... might even win some (admittedly irrelevant) silverware!!
24 Posted 18/05/2011 at 17:59:28
25 Posted 18/05/2011 at 17:53:12
I've lived In LA in a majority Mexican Barrio and I agree they are mad about a lot of things in general: guns, basketball, food and music. Generally it's only the latino community in America that are interested in football in America I found out during my six months there. I wouldn't have a problem if we played an LA team as I guarantee you we'd have a lot of US fans.
But our last summer jolly to Aussieland was pathetic really. On a selfish not though as I've pointed out to numerous people. We took 2000 fans to Anderlecht once for a freindly. As I never get tickets for Euro away games usually I'd love the chance to watch Everton in Amsterdam or Madrid. I went to Liege in 2008 but didn't get a ticket in the away end. Most fans just want to go to somewhere that's interesting and affordable to go to.
26 Posted 18/05/2011 at 20:32:34
I am just relieved (for selfish reasons) that they are coming back here to the USA, but I also believe that it is good for them and their team-building.
I actually had the opportunity to question Moysie about this on their last visit here and he stated very strongly that the facilities offered them around the matches were second to none, quote "hard to find anywhere but here" unquote. When you actually know and have seen what is on offer here for the team, in these brand new stadiums, his comments make sense. Huge fitness rooms along with the monitoring and medical facilities, including physios, etc., make it a damn sight easier to organise training/fitness regimes to build up their bodies.
I was hoping this thread would open up into trying to organise ourselves in the same way we managed to get together for SLC and Denver! I hope we get some suggestions or else we will all be attending a pre-season wake together, where we can all moan and whinge...... :)
Lighten up, guys ? let's party.
27 Posted 18/05/2011 at 22:38:52
Boys' night out, hope to bring a small crew of the lads I play with including another blue who lives here and plays on the same team as me (we bumped into each other watching a match at Fado Austin).
Let me know if you're going and I might also be able to get you a good seat at a fair (but not necessarily cheap) price but without fees. Need to know this week if you need a ticket or two.
Not sure if we're staying over or not, but I hope so. Would be nice to meet up.
j f w a i t (at) the g m a i l thingy ma jiggy or Austin 5 6 5 9 0 6 7
28 Posted 18/05/2011 at 23:33:34
Don't know what you've been smoking/snorting but I think the give away for you would be READ THE ARTICLE above - it gives every game we've played season by season!
I'm sure Werder Bremen was the final game pre-season (someone correct me if I am wrong). The concurrent and recurring theme appears to be that, yes, we need DECENT games against STRONGER teams before the season starts. The US games are all about build-up for those games.
29 Posted 19/05/2011 at 07:01:39
? Domestic TV rights ? equal share, currently almost £14 million, payable end August and January
? Merit payments ? league placing, around £750k/place, payable at season end
? "Facility Fee" ? £485k per live appearance, with guaranteed minimum of 10 appearances (even if you appear in less)
Sorry for going off-thread. The only change in payment schedule has been with the re-negotiation of the overseas rights, whereby the Premier League decided to disburse monthly to assist clubs with budgeting.
30 Posted 19/05/2011 at 19:04:53
Incredibly excited for the boys to come over to the East Coast of the States. I have only seen the Lads live once when I was a young chap. Saw a 5-3 loss at Goodison to QPR.
Fido's bar is OK saw the FA Cup vs Chelski there a few years ago but for the best football pub in Philly I would have to say the Darkhorse is the best choice (http://www.darkhorsepub.com/). Better atmosphere in my opinion and gives the pub feel as opposed to a chain.
I have ordered tickets for section 128 at the Union game and behind the Everton bench for the DC game. Hope some of this information helps and would love to meet up with some fellow Evertonians.
31 Posted 19/05/2011 at 19:57:07
I'll defer to you on the pub suggestion as I'm not really one for pubs... or drinking in general for that matter.
32 Posted 19/05/2011 at 20:20:28
Consequently, I have taken the liberty of setting up a link through DC United so that Everton fans can book tickets on line and print tickets off at home. The link below is created for Everton supporters looking to come out to the DC United vs. Everton match on July 23rd.
The seats will all be located together in section 332, which is in the lower section of the stadium. DC has initially placed around 50 seats on hold for you all, and they are only available by clicking this link. Tickets are $30 (regularly $40). More seats can be allocated should the take up merit it.
Discounted Link: https://oss.ticketmaster.com/html/go.htmI?l=EN&t=dcunited&o=2139931&g=1431
Offer Code: TOFFEES
Should any fans have questions they can contact: Brad Snook - DC United
2400 East Capitol St
Washington, DC 20003
Additionally, there is an Irish pub near the ground called Fados which would be a good meeting place ahead of the KO. It's not walking distance but is on the metro and easy driving distance.
Address is 808 7th Street Northwest
Washington, DC 20001
I will be drinking in my local Irish pub called Ned Devines which is outside DC but an easy 40 minute drive. Address if anyone cares to join me is
2465 Centreville Rd
Herndon, VA 20171
33 Posted 20/05/2011 at 01:58:51
Anyways, up the blues!
p.s. Maybe now that Trump won't buy the White House, he can buy our little club?
34 Posted 20/05/2011 at 14:38:56
We?re also going to the DC match?.actually have a contingent of 32 people going (family and friends?all Blues). We?ll be driving up from my older brother?s place in Virginia that morning and then ?tailgating? all day leading up to kickoff. As we have over 25 people we qualified for a tent. Just look for the tent labeled ?Goodison Car Park? (yes, that?s as creative as I get) in the parking lot and stop on by! Should be a great time!!
Stephen ? cheers for setting up that link, I?d encourage everyone to buy through there so you?re all together! When we purchased our tickets we were told there was no ?Everton section? so we decided to get enough people to create our own ha. I know the ?Boston Evertonians? are planning on going and are sat next to us for the DC match. They?ll have a tent at the match too so there will be plenty of Toffs present?I think they have a contingent of about 35 people coming down from Boston (their tent is just labeled ?Boston Evertonians?. You may want to reach out to them online to see if they?re going anywhere in DC the night before (can just google it or reach out on Facebook). As I said, we?re planning on having a good time ?tailgating?. Make sure you load your car up with plenty of bevvies before you get into the car park though. Hope to see a lot of you there!
35 Posted 21/05/2011 at 19:20:12
Personally, after so may trips back to England to watch the blues, it's great to see them in my back yard.
Nice article, Gerry.
36 Posted 26/05/2011 at 22:01:44
Booked tickets for DC United through the link posted above.
Paul, if you have any "spares" for the training session at Union give me a shout. Have been in conversation with Union about getting tickets and they're getting back to me.
Also, know about the 2 tailgaters at DC, any places to get together before the Union game?
37 Posted 21/06/2011 at 22:19:35
38 Posted 23/06/2011 at 23:49:37
39 Posted 23/06/2011 at 23:54:27
40 Posted 25/06/2011 at 22:32:57
41 Posted 26/06/2011 at 15:03:13
It's a decent boozer, good British and Irish contingent drink there and is opposite a Metro station (Court House). This is on the Orange Line so you would head towards DC, change to the Blue line at Rosslyn. The blue line will then take you direct to RFK Stadium (Stadium Armory is the RFK stop).
Should take 30 mins or so.
Look forward to seeing many Evertonians at the game and pub, and hopefully we'll put on a good show.
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