Barry's ludicrous missed chance costs Everton the win

Same old line-up except Beto out and Barry in.

Bloody hell, Moyes... can you not change things around?

Starting to look like Dyche Mk 2.

I do not see anything positive from this game.

The only change I think he should have made was Alcaraz for Barry. (Beto or Barry)

When is Moyes gonna realize significant change is needed to get a different result???

Hopefully we don't let him breathe tonight. A big game tonight we need a performance.

Moyes must photostat the teamsheet and get the Tippex out to change Beto to Barry and vice versa every game!

Isolated up front with a ponderous midfield behind him.

I just hope, if things aren't going to Plan Z, he makes early changes!

For his sake, I hope we get a result today.

Dewsbury-Hall just sits on Garner's and Gueye's knees and the centre-forward is isolated upfront.

Grealish slows everything down.

Remember, this is supposed to be fun. A diversion from the shite of daily life. We've got Grealish on one wing and Ndiaye on the other.

I'd have gone Garner at right-back, O'Brien and Tarkowski centre-backs, and Alcaraz at Number 10.

Dewsbury-Hall, Obrien at right back, and flip-flopping on Beto vs Barry isn't working.

I would have liked to have seen Röhl start as well. UTFT

I've got no problem with the line-up. It's the result I'm interested in.

So if it's going well, great; but if not, please can we see some changes.

Dyche certainly never had the quality of players on the bench that Moyes has today. That might explain his reluctance to change... but Moyes cannot say that today. Why would he think the same team with Barry for Beto that lost 0-3 v the poor Spuds team?

It must come down to that, no matter what happens in training, Moyes has a list of the players he trusts. Those appear week by week on the team sheet to start and the rest are there to be shuffled on when we are losing.

Has Moyes 2.0 lost his way? Has what used to happen doesn't work any more?

Now, having said all that, I would love to be proved wrong with a win! Any less and we will soon be in the Bottom 6 again. I thought we had had enough of that in the last 4 years!

Experienced managers fade when unable to face the truth in using a Number 9 that can't score puts you at the wrong end of the table.

No doubt comparisons drawn to the non-appearances of our somewhat older and less visible Chairman.

Gana needs a rest.

But let's not worry, Dibling is really impressive in training and I'm sure, with 5 minutes left, Moyes will ring the changes.

Another night of drudgery awaits.

We have 2 shit full-backs from an attacking point of view. I don't get the obsession with playing Dewsbury-Hall.

I know we haven't got a lot to analyse, or talk about, but it is our time in the limelight!

I think Barry will score and I believe it will kick-start his career with us.

The graphic earlier about Premier League managers moving to “big teams” and Spurs are deemed to be one of them, so too were Newcastle.

I'm hoping it works, but if not, he has to make 4/5 changes going forward, or he's in bother?

Last 10 minutes we look a bit dodgy ourselves. Hope we don't regret not scoring more.

These biffs we have up front are killing us!

We've played well overall but we've been down this road so many times it's hard not to fear the worst.

Feel for Barry, he's done a good job tonight but his confidence must be shot after that miss. Hopefully Beto will get a chance on a breakaway in the second half.

COYB.

Last 15 minutes, we retreated and we were holding on for half-time.

First 15 minutes in the second half is critical, Dewsbury-Hall needs to stop giving the ball away.

Barry? No words.

Instead, we missed our chances and allowed them to come right back at us... incredible it took them 35 minutes!

All to play for in Part 2: how will Moyes ensure we leave with all 3 points?

I'm thinking the same as you about Barry, still on his own up front mostly, yes he should have scored but I can see little things in him, some are not coming off but if, there”s that word again, he gets a goal I'm hoping it will revitalise his time with us.

We started off very well and kept it up and really should have come off with a bigger lead which we deserve, but those last ten minutes or so we relinquished our hold on the game, hopefully with a few subs on in the second half we can go again and get the three points.

If he doesn't improve, get Alcaraz on.

We've spent £100M on players that Moyes doesn't think can improve that team.

We spend £30M on a striker who can't dislodge Beto.

We spend £40M on a winger who can't get in ahead of McNeil.

We spend £20M on a midfielder who's not started a game

And £12M on a full back who can't get in ahead of Coleman.

Oh, and what the fuck was Alcaraz doing not playing in Beto at the end? Or is the answer too obvious?

He played for a draw from the minute they scored.

I still don't know which is the least bad option up front.

You just knew when Barry missed from 2 yards that we'd regret it. I was pleased to get 1-1 in the end because I thought a Sunderland penalty was looking increasingly likely.

Fans, Teams, Managers X 2 = 6. Five out of 6 probably see it as 2 points lost -- except one, who will see it as a point gained.

Beto and Barry, a pair of useless interchangeable big Galoots.

Should've been out of sight after 30 mins.

Could've been won at the death.

Keane my MotM.

After that and the second half, I'm relieved with a draw.

Get a centre-forward on 1 January. I don't care who. He cannot be worse than the two puddings we have.

Beto awful. McNeil a disgrace. Dewsbury-Hall should have been hooked. Getting overwhelmed in the 2nd half and Moyes did fuck-all until too late. Beginning to despair of him. Relegation performance 2nd half.

Keane outstanding. What a turn around for him this season but we should have been out of sight and, when we weren't, Moyes should have acted. Hating watching us at the moment.

Such a fine line.

We have poor strikers and once again it cost us.

Trying to play defence for too long always backfires for Everton but they got away with it. Still we are what we are and that is a mid-table team until the strike force improves and Moyes changes -- which we all know he will not.

He clearly does not rate Dibling or Barry. That's a lot of money.
Which begs the question. Why isn't he happy? What the fuck went on over the summer???

Typical shite from Moyes. Trying to change things with 7 minutes to go.

I have only been looking up the table this season. Sadly it's back to looking below us and how many points we are off the Bottom 3.

There's a reason we've held onto most during the PSR crises. It's because most are shite.

The subbing of McNeil for Ndiaye was a dreadful decision. Barry with a yellow was too much of a risk for Moyes.

I actually expected more from Moyes, but he will be content with a draw.

Moyes remains the biggest problem.

The two full-backs were very poor for both halves. Once Ndiaye went off, I expected little going forward.

Very happy with the point -- it was deserved for a very dominant performance in those first 35 minutes.

The dugout looked like “The Last Of The Summer Wine” with Moyes talking to himself and Irvine and the fella who was at West Ham with Moyes just looking at him and offering nothing. I never saw Baines — maybe they sent him to the cafe to get the teas ready.

Dibling still on the bench with the two fellas in green jerseys and the young German kid along for the ride.

We all know how poor he's been, yet he gets in ahead of our star signing.

I expect that they'll massively drop off second half of season and finish nowhere near their current position.

He looks old and clueless on the sideline.

Then, on 20 minutes, Moyes is making "slow it down" gestures... and we let them back into it.

2 points lost.

Moyes told the players to start walking on 20 minutes. It's there for everyone to see.

I have heard that Dibling is very poor in training and, if that's the case, you don't put him on the pitch unless you are desperate.

In the second half, I thought Grealish and Dewsbury-Hall were very poor.

I also think Sunderland are not any great shakes, they will start falling down the Premier League, with displays like that.

David Moyes is a seasoned professional who believes a mid-table position as successful.

I've praised Moyes to the hilt... not no more. I'd love to know how the likes of Bournemouth, Brighton, Brentford, and now Sunderland identify these progressive young managers, yet we employ dinosaurs like Moyes, Dyche, Allardyce and Benitez. We are a laughing stock -- a complete joke of a club.

We are out of the League Cup, not going to trouble the European places, definitely not going to win the FA Cup. All we are going to do is languish in mid-table to near the relegation zone.

What a fucking miserable club this is to support, that game was there for the taking tonight because, let's face it, they were poor. But no -- we let them back in and lo and behold hang on for a point.

And please... what was the McNeil sub about? Ahead of Alcaraz who at least looks interested when he gets his customary 7 or 8 minutes. I just hope Ndiaye is nothing serious cos, without him... well.

Fulham will come at us full tilt and we'll be looking over our shoulder a-fuckin-gain!

Different positions, but if you're going to have ‘project players' then don't go spending £60M on them. Develop the ones you already have.

How is there not a young striker at the club that can come in and do a job? Why bother having a youth team and academy?

And then Moyes got involved with McNeil substitution. A monumental cock up. Röhl and Iroegbunam should have been on to strengthen the middle.

Snatching a draw from the jaws of a win. Disappointing.

The Barry for Beto switch on 53 minutes made little sense. And then he changed nothing despite us having zero possession in their half.

McNeil only came on because of injury. So was Moyes content with what he was watching? I just do not get it.

Clueless all round.

When they normally do, he makes changes with a few minutes to go.

Two for one and null their contracts... Fuck Off, B & B!!!

How many did you ask? Ridiculous comment.

Nobody wants to keep changing managers but eventually results will mean, much like Dyche this time last year, a position is simply untenable.

If we don't beat Fulham on Saturday, we have another break with internationals then another Monday night away game at Old Trafford, a graveyard of a venue against a resurgent Man Utd side.

December could be looking very bleak for us if we don't start to change this spiralling season.

Choosing McNeil instead of Dibling to replace Ndiaye can only be described by the same adjective that Michael correctly described Barry's miss: ludicrous.

I said before the game I'd take a point and, to be honest, I'm not massively disappointed. We could have lost that easily. We're looking decidedly more mid-table with each passing week. It's frustrating but it's better than being relegation fodder.

If Moyes is not picking players because he doesn't fancy them, why did he authorise the signings? I think it's more likely that he's convinced he's got his best eleven on the pitch, regardless of what the fans think his best eleven is.

He's nothing if not stubborn. We move on.

Sad to be proven right.

Looks like he's got the weight of the world on his shoulders. Please Moyes don't flip-flop again and put Beto in at the start against Fulham.

Apart from that, they really get feck all to play off.

A load of players not ready.

Not ready, not ready, that's all we ever fucking hear with our signings, how come other clubs signings are always ready?

Why didn't we try to sign Kubo then instead of Dibling?

Why didn't we try to sign a more experienced striker instead of Barry?

Why didn't we keep Ashley Young instead of playing a 6'6 right back, or even better, sign a proper right back?

Our recruitment absolutely dreadful and we are now suffering from it, feels like Moyes bringing McNeil on too was him spitting his dummy out and making that exact point. about the recruitment in summer

You must admit the McNeil substitution was genius as was the Tweedledee for Tweedledumb.

Time to start with O’Brien and Keane at centre-half and give Coleman a start.

I rest my case.

We've played essentially 4-5-1 now since 2004... it is the most turgid depressing soul destroying formation ever invented. The only way we improve is a new manager with a totally different philosophy.

We are the worst watch by a country mile in this league.

Woke up. Dialed in at 40 mins, 1-0. Glad to see it... but if we get to half time, we could lose this.

Moyes will try to defend that for 45 minutes. He'll fail. Our heads will go down and we will lose. Close.

I thought Moyes had improved. Still cautious to a fault but not as bad as he used to be.

Beto and Barry should not play in blue ever again. I like Betto BTW. He should be the attitude coach for the kids.

We may be in the shit here. Marco won't be feeling sorry for us.

It was also blatantly obvious that we were being overrun in midfield in the second half, yet it took the Manager so long to realize it and too late.

As for the striker situation, it's Groundhog Day every match.
The striker who starts is then subbed and replaced, the replacement in turn will start next match and be replaced by the man he replaced in the previous match. Confused? Nnot really.

At the end of the day, we're creating chances thanks to improved attacking play. The hysteria about Moyes, the negativity etc is just the usual 'ludicrous' ToffeeWeb bollocks. Encouraged by the site itself of course.

TFG have a big decision to make in the summer, they're unlikey to get rid of a CEO and newly formed recruitment team and therefore, if they can't get on the same page sharpish, then it'll be the manager that'll need replacing come the summer.

Hilarious and sad at the same time, Dave A.

Blues waiting for a striker to appear is starting to feel like we're Waiting for Godot.

We are reliant on magic from the wingers or set pieces. That means it doesn't take a genius to figure out how to stifle our gameplan.

Lightweight midfield that is incapable of imposing itself on a match for anything beyond 20-minute bursts. Full-backs that offer nothing whatsoever going forward, and the slowest centre-back pairing in the Premier League, which forces us to play ridiculously deep.

Awful miss from Barry. He clearly knows it though. At what point will Moyes question whether persistently substituting strikers at half-time might be part of the problem?

Barry and Beto are in a team that creates next to nothing for strikers, they are on a hiding to nothing. Other than the chance Barry missed, was there another decent cross into the box?

Ndiaye is in a class of his own at Everton, we will be lucky to keep him until the end of the season.

The miss from 2 yards ended the game for us and gave them all of the momentum. I expected him to get the hook just after the hour and, looking back now, Moyes should have left him on as Beto was anonymous.

We know Beto is shite whereas Barry has potential to be better than shit and hooking him every 45 mins will crush his confidence.

It's got to the point where Moyes should be considering other players as a striker. We are playing with 10 men each game. The current 2 strikers will get him the sack.

The first 30 minutes was as good as we have played against an average team. The following 60 minutes was the worst all season, 2nd to every ball.

Dewsbury-Hall is hopeless off the ball and was again lucky to get 80 minutes.

Alcaraz had a great chance and should have lobbed the keeper early instead of clinging onto the ball.

Grealish must be wondering how he has ended up with us.
Won the lot and now playing with lads who hate the football.

On tonight's showing, a top-half finish is a long way away.
We have 1 player who has scored more than 1 goal all season —says it all.

What a season you're in for... mid to bottom and out of the cup in January. Whoopee-fucking-do!

We're abject, and only an injury to Ndiaye or Grealish away from free fall.

The strikers are laughable but the people who scouted and recruited them are getting paid to work in professional sports and have blown £70M when you include their contracts.

Moyes was needed as a short-term solution… but we'll stay the worst team to watch until he goes.

So you were expecting to push for the Champions League or Europa League this season, were you? Good luck with that one.

Because Jimmy, there's a good chance he had nothing to do with them, we seem to have this set of collective 'Recruitment Group' wallahs running things now.

The fact that Sunderland could go 2nd above Man City if they won seemed to play on their mind, then Garner(?) hit the post more or less from the kick-off fightened them even more.

At 6s & 7s doesn't begin to cover it. They were all over the place like mad woman's shit. They were losing it good style diving in, rolling about. More chances missed, Then a goal down, Barry's miss...

Then, all of a sudden, for some reason, it changes... What the fuck???

I blinked and missed Moyes's 'Slow it down' moment: if true, well, words fail me… but, on second thoughts, why am I suprised?

Wolves, Burnley, Leeds and West Ham are the only other clubs showing such dysfunctional form. West Ham could turn it around and that leaves it a bit close.

I didn't agree with all the subs and the timing of them, but players should be doing better in any case.

We are all over the place too often, rather than seemingly in a rut or on the slippery slope.

I don't doubt he didn't scout them, but he must have signed off on them at some point.

We've got a new stadium, new owners and regressed with the appointment of the second dullest dullard in football after Sean Dyche. We survived in spite of these two — not because of them.

I must take issue with those who say "We are Everton" as if it's a magic charm. Yes, we are Everton… and we are a club on a par with Brentford, Fulham and Bournemouth. In our dreams!
Forty years of mediocrity!

I compare him to Salah. How many times do you see Salah chasing back?

Whilst Moyes may feel he has his best 11 on the field, results are clearly showing he has hit it wrong. The man never changes, it's the same old shit every game.

We need a new, young manager with fresh ideas and a Plan B. Because he will never change his ways, or his lineup.

And Colin wants him to simply drop half of his game.

Are you kidding???

Jim #78, we did try very hard to sign Kubo. So did Bayern, PSG and Arsenal. He hasn't moved yet. We also bid for multiple experienced strikers -- Fofana and Dovbyk to name two -- who chose not to come.

Dewsbury-Hall's level has dropped off a cliff, the full-backs as usual offer nothing coming forward. It's almost embarrassing to watch Mykolenko try and be 'offensive'. McNeil and Beto stank the place out when they came on.

Dibling must be offering nothing in training, nor Aznou, if not deemed better than their alternatives. Rohl also has to be worth a look, maybe instead of Dewsbury-Hall. Something, anything...

I hope Ndiaye is okay — without him, we would be nigh on entirely toothless.

Were some people thinking this bunch of misfits could make Top 10? People say we shouldn't be happy with lower mid-table, and I'm not happy with it, but that is the reality. Let's hope it isn't worse. That second half was one of our worst ever.

An xG in the second half of 0.02 which sums up the display. The manager was going for a draw the moment Sunderland equalised.

The substitutions were a disaster:

1) McNeil on ahead of Dibling;
2) Dewsbury-Hall not replaced until the 83rd minute;
3) Röhl left on the bench when Gueye was knackered.

On Thierno Barry, as terrible as that miss was, I think he should start against Fulham. He links up play slightly better and looks like he is, on occasion, in control of his legs.

Remember that basketball lad who joined the TFG team, grabbed a scarf, screamed that he couldn't wait to be at The Old Lady in a few weeks? He hasn't got off his arse. Friedkin could not pinpoint the city on a map, but he knows all about the glitzy stadium on the river.

But hey, it's their way. No probs. Well, it isn't our way and if things continue as they have been after that unspeakably ineffective transfer window (again tonight we had to watch the fruits of the ace TFG recruitment team), their way will become a focus of growing complaint.

Grant (41), I completely understand why Alcaraz did not put the ball through to the pitiful one-on-one Beto (and it looks like you do too). As soon as I thought that might happen, I set up the Benny Hill tune. Beto would have stepped over the ball or poked it to one of theirs.

He and Barry are the worst striking pair I have seen at our club in over five decades. At least Alan Biley scored 3 in 19. These two clowns have scored one between them in 10 league games: in effect, 1 in 20.

I feel sorry for Barry in a sort of pathos way, but that miss – that might not have been as bad as ace poacher Beto on international duty – was tragically comical and tragically expected. Beto has drained every drop of sympathy from me.

It's not enough to feel sympathy and offer an excuse or two; these two are supposed to be top division strikers.

Oh, where oh where are you, Mikael Madar, Stuart Barlow, Mick Ferguson, Aurona Kone, Michael Branch, Brett Angell, Oumar Niasse, John Spencer, João Alves de Assis Silva? We need you more than ever now. Would any of you sign a contract for the rest of the season?

Almost as absurd as Barry's howler was the decision to bring useless McNeil on, who hopefully will go in the next window. Preston? Burnley? Accrington? Some mill town or other as he reminds me of Hovis, clogs, and little lads pushing bikes up cobble street slopes. He was shocking. Didn't look like he gave a shit.

Shocking from Moyes to put that mill-town misfit on ahead of Dibling and Alcaraz. I fear that Dibling might be gone over the summer for less than we paid for him. Wouldn't blame him.

I guess that we will just have to hope that our two miserable misfiring B's get better and do better. Seems unlikely at the moment, but let's hope.

Thank Sheedy for Iliman Ndiaye: the one shining light today (Keane was good, yet again). Fingers (everything) crossed that Iliman is able to play at the weekend.

And if we didn't already know it, the Beeb has another to be fair totally justifiable poke:

£160M and counting -- Everton's search for their dream striker continues

Since Lukaku's sale in the summer of 2017, the Blues have scored 358 Premier League goals -- the fewest of any ever-present club.

Leicester City have scored 388 goals -- 30 more than the Toffees during the same period -- despite spending two seasons in the second tier.

Despite having signed 17 strikers in that time, Everton are yet to find a reliable long-term option -- and selection problems persist to this day.

So far this season, Everton's two strikers have scored one goal between them in 19 Premier League appearances.

This lad was sitting on the bench. I am not having it that he is not ready.

Tyler Dibling

A point is decent.

Up to now, I've been believing that there is a plan, and that Moyes has been happy with the recruitment. Last night showed that he didn't trust our top signing with 20 minutes, he'd rather play a desperately out of form, out of position McNeil.

You can only conclude from that, that he's not Moyes's player. And if he's not his player, what about the others, like Barry, and Aznou? This then explains the loss of form, and direction.

Recruitment was absolutely key, I am now fearing we have pissed away £60M-£100M. We signed O'Brien and Ndiaye for £30M between them last year; this year, we've got nobody near their level.

And now, right-back doesn't look like a medium-term plan, it just looks like negligence.

You can forget Europe or cup success. These are a poor group of footballers who, Ndiaye's goal aside, struggle to make 3 decent passes. They don't have 90 minutes in them physically or mentally to play front-foot football. 30 minutes was decent, but they faded into obscurity against a newly promoted side, the second time this season.

Blame Moyes, Dyche, Lampard, Benitez and any other Joe in the dugout. But blame the players. No one showed that they're a better player than Sunderland. No one won their personal battles, no one shone, and no one justified their wage.

The captain is rash. Positionally all over the place, he uses his pub style approach to cover the cracks of a limited game. There's a reason why he's nowhere near the England squad.

Gana was very quiet. If that's his level, he needs replacing with Röhl now.

Swapping players around will achieve little from the majority of comments. Taking O'Brien off a right-back, bringing on Dibling or McNeil on the right, or Alcaraz for Dewsbury-Hall, doesn't turn this side into match winners. You've still got a lack of passing ability, a low-level technical ability, and a lack of pace.

Not got onto the centre-forwards, but the service is absolutely awful.

A low block, and passing it back to Pickford, is all we've got.

Dewsbury-Hall did some good things first half but nothing in the second half. Alcaraz tried hard but nothing came off for him. Merlin should have come on and Dibling instead of McNeil.

Good point overall. Fulham is now a must-win game.

How a team can go from such dominance for 30-odd minutes to such a pitiful excuse of a second half is not only a disgrace... but scary. Management and players really need to have a look at themselves

Beto and Barry have been given enough chances and alternatives need to be considered short term until the next transfer window.

Thank God we got Keane on another deal; without him this season, we'd be in deep shit.

Xhaka was dictating the 2nd half; Röhl, Alcaraz and Dibling should have been on. Dewsbury-Hall was crap again, and lasted until the last few minutes.

Moyes has to take the blame with his baffling substitutions.

After watching some of his old games for Villarreal, his catalogue of clips (there isn't many and YouTube can make Calvert-Lewin look world class), I said he didn't look up to it.

He looked lost in the pre-season friendly and with Beto being very limited, our strikers wouldn't be good enough this season and we should go after a 3rd option.

Those who shared similar sentiments apparently were mad to do so. To some, Barry is only young at 23 so if we wait a couple years till he enters his prime years at 25, we may have a player.

I doubt it, a couple of decent touches here and there should be the bare minimum to be a professional footballer, not reason to believe there is true potential waiting to explode.

Anyway, the problem with Moyes is that he is old and stale. He's constantly outwitted by younger, more dynamic managers who tweak their teams during games. Moyes stands there looking gormless as his side starts falling apart and he's incapable of reacting.

I had hoped, and still do, that he will keep us up this season before moving on. We need to have a manager lined up for the summer, Glasner and Iraola being the obvious choices but I'm sure there are other bright young things out there chomping at the bit to manage in the Premier League.

It's up to Friedkin and Co now to set a clear path for the future. One that doesn't include Moyes, Coleman, Patterson, McNeil, Beto etc…

Substitutions too late in the game. Negative tactics.

I thought they had forgot about training a long time ago... 😅

Losing by far and away our best player with a third of the contest left didn't help either. Unless people think Moyes has an irrational grudge against young players, there must be a reason behind the McNeil choice as substitute.

I think Alcaraz should have been brought on at the same time as Beto but his brief cameo showed he isn't a magic solution either and just as prone to shit performances as the rest of our extremely average group of players.

Tarkowski is a Sunday league player. Why people rate him and think he marshals the defense well, from about 6 yards behind it, I don't know. He does look deadly in front of goal to be fair to him -- ours.

The transfer window was a disaster. We need two decent attacking full-backs, a pacy young centre-back, a replacement for Gana. A left-sided right winger that can be relied upon and at least one and preferably two strikers before anyone can claim we have a great squad that should be challenging for honors.

Unfortunately, the ludicrous Barry miss (and that is an accurate description) on 28 minutes seemed to affect the whole team. The remainder of the game, we reverted to the Everton with which I am familiar.

From 30 minutes on, I was expecting a defeat, so was okay (not happy) with a draw. Beat Fulham and we will be comfortable; if we don't win, it will be another season looking over our shoulders, especially with the upcoming fixtures before Xmas.

The constant chopping and changing at centre-forward is helping no one. We know Beto is not fit for purpose and won't improve. Barry appears to be just as bad, but is young, raw and may improve. He infuriates me, but with no other current option, he should be told he is starting the next 5 games irrespective of cock-ups and he is to show his team mates what he can do.

If he doesn't perform, then surely a new centre-forward will be walking through the door on 1 January, as they should be scouting and sounding one out now.

You can judge the merits of our performance on that. I loved
the Last Of The Summer Wine comment at first... but the
truth of it then made me angry.

The negative bore who should have been fired years before he snuck off like a thief in the night.

The Friedkin Group are not Kenwright. They want success and will strive to achieve it. We will finish just above the relegation places after another dismal season.

I'm minded of the old Hollies hit... King Midas In Reverse.

But the Barry sitter seemed to change everything; suddenly, you could see the confidence drain away, and it certainly gave their team and supporters a huge lift. I think had Barry scored, he would have grown in confidence and I think we would have won the game.

With them scoring inside the first minute of the second half, the whole game changed. They grew in confidence and we struggled to keep possession. It seemed like we were just happy to sit back and we stopped trying to create, instead just happy to get rid of the ball. No composure, despite having a team full of Internationals.

When Ndiaye went off, I was surprised to see McNeil replace him, while leaving our most expensive signing since The Fiendkin Group's takeover left sitting on the bench.

I really do wonder who is in charge of transfers? Last season, Moyes did get a goal return from Beto but still voiced concerns about his general play.

So, despite his misgivings about his only striker, why would he splash £27M on an unproven young striker, which is proving a very costly error???

Firstly, a wariness of change. We've looked poor for the last few weeks at least and yet we only saw one change to the starting line-up and no discernible significant tweaks to the formation or the tactics. A refusal perhaps from Moyes to admit that things have not been working.

Secondly, a resistance to young players or players who are not Premier League tested. This summer we committed around £80M towards Dibling, Röhl, Alcaraz and Aznou. Last night, not for the first time, there was very limited time for them, with only Alcaraz getting 10 minutes.

I can understand a manager adopting a 'win now' attitude and prioritising senior players but the results have to justify that approach... and they are not. Meanwhile the message sent out to other young potential stars considering Everton as a future possible destination is detrimental.

Thirdly, a hesitancy to react. From about 30 minutes onwards, Sunderland were totally in control of that match. This much was obvious to spectators and data analysts alike. They adjusted to our early control and yet Moyes did nothing other than making a like-for-like change with Beto and Barry that seems to be pre-planned.

We had zero foothold in this match from before half-time and yet Moyes was stagnant -- despite having more options on the bench than any Everton manager has had for a good few years now.

Once again, his substitutions were either too late or poorly thought out -- and why you would put McNeil on the right where he has so often looked terrible, I cannot fathom, especially when the game was crying out for someone like Dibling who could carry the ball in transition.

Will he make tweaks for Fulham? Or will it be the same again? I don't think his job is under pressure yet but it's 1 win in 8 now for a team that could and should be doing a little better. If we don't start to win a match or two soon, we will be dragged into yet another relegation battle and I'm not sure TFG will stand for that.

Happy days... not.

Moyes is simply not getting the full potential out of the squad due to his rigidity of thinking and overdependence on senior players. When supporters can see clearly what the manager refuses to see, then confidence drains away quickly.

I am sure that Moyes has decided that Röhl and Dibling will feature when Gueye and Ndiaye depart for the African Cup of Nations in 2026. It is on his wall planner and those dots ain't moving no matter what.

I couldn't help but reflect on how Regis Le Bris would have handled the game if he was managing us.

I've just finished watching the game and I have to say it demonstrated why we need better players and a manager who can see what is wrong and try something to improve it, rather than his usual just going through the motions.

We took the lead owing to a bit of Ndiaye magic but it seemed like somebody had been reading ToffeeWeb and we played less that usual to Grealish.

In the second half, it was as though we'd gone to sleep thinking we only had to keep them out. Then Tarkowski had one of his usual brainfarts and ran back with their attacker -- has nobody ever told him that when they pass the rest of the back four to stop and let him run offside?

Then he tries his usual blocking position... and we've just given him two more years of this.

And what was the point of the Barry - Beto sub as that wasn't the problem? It was more Gana contributing almost nothing along with most of the midfield.

Well, we got a point through not really doing much... but something has to change.

Perhaps, let's sack the "past his sell-by date" thieving cunt.

He may even fancy the idea of being paid off. Surely he wouldn't do something to the detriment of Everton FC for his own benefit?

Be careful, though, the Moyes boys will get you for such blasphemy!

I've suggested they shut things down until the issues can be resolved...