De Boer tipped to get the best out of Stones

by | 26/05/2016  97 Comments  [Jump to last]

Ronald de Boer says that his brother would be an ideal manager to oversee the continuing development of John Stones, a defender very much in Frank's mould.

Having endured a chequered season in a defence that leaked a damaging number of goals under ex-boss Roberto Martinez, Stones has been the subject of plenty of speculation linking him with a move away from Goodison Park this summer.

Jose Mourinho hasn't even got his feet under the table of his Old Trafford office but there is already talk of him making a renewed effort to sign the England international after failing to land him last August.

New Manchester City manager, Pep Guardiola, meanwhile, has also been mentioned as a potential suitor as he seeks to make changes to the unusually porous defence he has inherited from Manuel Pellegrini.

Barcelona, too, could still be interested in the 21-year-old given his very Continental playing style but the elder of the two De Boer brothers has been trumpeting Frank de Boer as the ideal candidate to succeed Martinez at Goodison, particularly if the Blues want to keep hold of Stones.

The departing Ajax boss was a centre-half by trade, was capped 112 times for the Netherlands and played over 150 games for Barcelona in a glittering career.

"Frank was a type like Stones," Ronald says. "My brother never kicked the ball in the stands, never did it in his life. He was always trying to have a solution. Stones is the same and that is why he sometimes makes mistakes but that is also why people like him Frank can ever help him to get better. With his 112 caps and so many trophies, of course he can.

"Stones has to realise when to take risks or not, but you must never take away his qualities. If he now changes his game, he wouldn't be that special, because he can defend, but what makes him so exciting is that he can play from the back.

"Pep Guardiola would probably love him, a player like that. They want players like that. I know Frank likes players like that. Frank gets crazy if somebody kicks the ball out.

"Frank would never choose a player who's just defending, he would like to have a guy like Stones."

Meanwhile, another media outlet has been reporting the claim that Everton are interested in bringing Marc Overmars to Goodison in the director of football role he currently fulfils at Ajax.

The former Arsenal winger has worked alongside De Boer in Amsterdam since 2012 during which time the Dutch club twice won the Eredivisie title and finished runners-up to PSV Eindhoven in the last two seasons.

The Mirror report that Farhad Moshiri wants to create a sporting director position at Everton as part of a backroom shake-up and sees Overmars as part of that change.  


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Kev Johnson
1 Posted 26/05/2016 at 23:18:40
Come on Everton, we want a statement, what's happening.
Gerry Quinn
2 Posted 26/05/2016 at 23:23:54
Does more talking than Lukaku, does our Ronald! Have we interviewed his bro yet?
Peter Larkin
3 Posted 26/05/2016 at 23:29:56
FFS, stop begging, Frank. Makes me wonder if Mr De Boer was any good, his brother wouldn't have to big him up every 5 minutes!!

Anyhow... rumours are that we have been in talks with Emrey according to Twitter. He is my Number 1.

Dan Davies
4 Posted 26/05/2016 at 23:32:41
These De Boer boys seem very keen, does Ronald know something we don't?
Garry Corgan
5 Posted 26/05/2016 at 23:34:53
We all become amateur journalists at times like this but what the hell...

Why would Ronald be bigging-up his brother so much if a deal was already in the bag? Therefore, I take away from this that Frank and his brother don't yet believe they've got the job.

Oscar Huglin
6 Posted 26/05/2016 at 23:43:48
Mr Lukaku eat your heart out, looks like we're inheriting an even more loud-mouthed relative.
Colin Glassar
7 Posted 26/05/2016 at 23:45:42
Maybe Ronald will get the job.
James Flynn
8 Posted 26/05/2016 at 00:04:06
Well, "Frank", will need to realize that Stones has never received coaching on how to play the CB position; hoofball or playing it out. Nothing.

Stones can dribble it well and pick a nice pass in stride. Then what?

After playing all these games, he's clueless on the basics of his position.

Stones didn't come up thru a system as "Frank" did. OFM just ran him out there to get picked on by opponents.

So, if DeBoer is the one coming, he has his work cut out for him regarding young CB John Stones.

John Hughes
9 Posted 26/05/2016 at 00:05:05
He may be a loudmouth but he is not slagging Everton off our Ronald, not like the Lukaku double act are.
Phil Jeffries
10 Posted 27/05/2016 at 00:06:16
I wouldn't mind a defender that could 'defend' to be honest Mr. R. De Boer. Row Z is fine with me if you have Aguero or Sturrdige sniffing around.
Gavin Johnson
11 Posted 27/05/2016 at 00:13:43
I can't see it being anyone else now other than FdB or Pellegrini. If we're looking at Overmars it all points towards FdB being our manager next season. Embarrassing the way his brother keeps talking if FdB doesn't get the job.

I really hope we hold onto John Stones and make him captain.

Steve Ferns
12 Posted 27/05/2016 at 00:38:57
Don't forget Ronald will be part of the back room staff. He's always with his brother.
David Israel
13 Posted 27/05/2016 at 01:43:27
Does Pellegrini have a brother?
John Hughes
16 Posted 27/05/2016 at 03:05:14
If Unsie gets the job, on the other hand....................
Kristian Boyce
17 Posted 27/05/2016 at 03:10:54
Wasn't Ronald the better player out of the two?
Chris Wilson
18 Posted 27/05/2016 at 03:46:53
Is it me or do the De Boer brothers seem a little too eager for the position? Don't get me wrong; I like enthusiasm, and it's nice to see somebody wanting the job. But I don't recall too many managers (or in this case his twin brother) campaigning for a vacant position like they have.
Helen Mallon
19 Posted 27/05/2016 at 06:27:16
Gris Wilson it's a breath of fresh air. Oh and when Everton sign someone else and fans complain THEY can say we never even got asked and we wanted the job
Tony Draper
20 Posted 27/05/2016 at 06:57:06
I like Ronald. OK he talks a lot. Talking a lot of sense isn't irritating.
Tony Abrahams
21 Posted 27/05/2016 at 07:15:04
I think that it's a good thing Chris. They must be amongst the most opinionated people on the planet, these Cloggies. Very strong minded, and the fact that one of them wants to manage Everton, must be seen as a big positive.

His he good enough? who knows? But he's got a very strong pedigree, and for a relative newcomer, he's already got a very Decent CV!

Darryl Ritchie
22 Posted 27/05/2016 at 07:19:33
I get the feeling the DeBoer is not top of the list. I think the board is waiting for someone else to make a decision, before it makes a move, one way or another. The list of candidates is shrinking by the day, so something should happen soon you'd think.

Or maybe FDB is the man, and he's just taking a bit of a holiday before he takes over.

Tim Locke
23 Posted 27/05/2016 at 07:26:33
The frustration lies in the Everton board. Everyone has known Bobby should go; so when the board sacked him they must have had people lined up. How long does it take, if it was FDB then I am surprised he is not there already; give he has made it public well he wants to come. This situation is no different to the one at Man U, manager states he wants to manger the club, manger is sacked, said manager comes in. So although I would love FDB I am not convinced he is going to get it.

My only hope is Bill is saying we are nuts going for a high profile manager and putting Eddie H forward or Moyes. Which is causing board tentision as everyone else tells Bill he is mad as a box of frogs.

Iain Latchford
24 Posted 27/05/2016 at 07:27:19
He also said his brother would make Lukaku play in the reserves after what he said. He gets brownie points for that.
Liam Reilly
25 Posted 27/05/2016 at 07:34:03
Moshiri's no fool, so I'd be surprised if no dialogue has been initiated to date with potential candidates or their representatives.

I suspect he's identified who he wants and negotiations may be slow if it is De Boer or someone similar with lack of PL experience, because I would argue that there'll be a number of performance related clauses entered into any contracts.

Thomas Surgenor
26 Posted 27/05/2016 at 07:34:15
I also get the feeling that he knows he isn't number one choice with the board. It's like he is desperately trying to get the fan base to influence the board. Ie: if we're all on his side and he is the man we want, it might sway the board.
Barry Pearce
27 Posted 27/05/2016 at 07:57:33
Mr De boer's philosophy is sounding very similar to that of Bobby brown shoes.

He go's mad if someone just kicks the ball out of play.

Sorry there's sometime's when
Row Z is the best option.

Brin Williams
28 Posted 27/05/2016 at 08:37:40
I think Ronald is being quite frank about his brother Frank's ambition to become the next Everton manager. Quite frankly I would welcome him to the fold - Frank I mean not Ronald.
John Louis Jones
29 Posted 27/05/2016 at 08:46:44
Several reports coming out of Holland that Overmars and De Boer are going to be named at Everton.

These rumours that he plays the same as Martinez are not that true, his teams do not concede goals. Apart from the BS that came out of his mouth after every game if Martinez's teams could have defended he would have won games at a canter. this was his biggest problem scoring goals wasn't Martinez's problem it was at the other end. If De Boer can do both I would be happy.

Les Martin
30 Posted 27/05/2016 at 08:54:20
Cant see this happening as Stones won't be in an Everton shirt much longer!!

The clamour for him to move will be immense when the Manchester jousters take their seats. How much is what I am interested in...

Brian Harrison
31 Posted 27/05/2016 at 08:59:26
I think if those making the decision had wanted FDB he would already be here. His brother seems desperate for us to sign him, even suggesting he is the right man to coach Stones, I think maybe Guardiola may think otherwise.
The Liverpool Echo were suggesting yesterday that it would take an offer of £6 million a year to lure Koeman, if that is the case then offer him £7 million.
John Louis Jones
32 Posted 27/05/2016 at 09:02:20
this was taken of SSN Twitter : Sky Sports News HQ ‏@SSN401 20h20 hours ago

JUST IN: The De Boer's, Jaap Stam & Dennis Bergkamp were 'Snapped' at Everton's Finch Farm today #SSNHQ #EFC #DeBoer

Martin Nicholls
33 Posted 27/05/2016 at 09:07:31
For those who think they know more about defending than Frank de Boer, take a look at Eredevisie table. Only 21 conceded in 34 games - 11 fewer than anyone else. And not at the expense of attack - 81 scored, the 2nd highest in the division.
Sam Hoare
34 Posted 27/05/2016 at 09:10:44
I agree with Darryl @22, it feels to me like the board is waiting for someone. If De Boer was first pick it would have been done by now.

My (totally speculative) guess is that Emery is first pick but proving hard to extract from Sevilla and that Pellegrini and/or De Boer are the fallback options.

I would be pretty happy with any of these options, especially if De Boer brings Bergkamp and Staam, two Premiership legends.

There's no rush, its important to get the right man, so long as we have someone in by time the Euros kick off.

John Louis Jones
35 Posted 27/05/2016 at 09:12:53
The thing has been with de Boer Sam that he has been on a contractual Tour with Ajax, so we could not speak to him.

I would love Emery.

Tony Draper
36 Posted 27/05/2016 at 09:14:04
Everton Skype conference:

BPB "Langford, oh ! Those Titian locks !"
Elstone: "Well.... looks like Benitez.."
BPB "Ball ! Simply magnificent !"
Elstone "The red headed dynamo called Alan ?"
BPB (head shaking) " Gracious, No ! Michael, dearest Michael !"

Elstone "The Scouse left back ?"

BPB "Heaven forfend !"


Elstone "Mr Chairman, to return to the current issue of the managerial shortlist ? "
BPB (flutters fan distractedly) "Well if we MUST !"
Elstone "Supporters social media has thrown up a very interesting...."
BPB "Supporters dearest Robert ? Soap ! Mouth ! Away ! Away Robert ! "

Meanwhile in a boardroom far far away.....

FM "Alisher ? Box of frogs here comrade ! Utter bloody wendyhouse !"

(Several hours later)
Elstone (bubbles emerging from one nostril) " Madame Chairman, to return to the 'Managerial Agenda' ? "
BPB "David, sweetest David, bring him to me Robert ! Is he near ? Oh ! Those sweet Titian locks ! David .....?"
(Curtains).

Gordon Crawford
37 Posted 27/05/2016 at 09:19:59
I think Koeman is Everton's first choice. But I can't be 100%. He still hasn't ruled himself out of the running. Papers are saying that if we offer big money, he will come.
Have we or haven't we contacted De Bore? Twitter says we have, papers say no.
I think it might be resolved by Monday.
John Louis Jones
38 Posted 27/05/2016 at 09:21:56
Ajax News on twitter are pretty certain that Overmars is going to named of Director of football.
Iain Latchford
39 Posted 27/05/2016 at 09:29:35
John, that appears to be some kind of fake account. The picture below that tweet shows the cast of Anchorman.
John Louis Jones
40 Posted 27/05/2016 at 09:33:59
https://twitter.com/_ajax_nieuws

Yer just seen that. hahaha.

Martin Nicholls
41 Posted 27/05/2016 at 09:34:17
Gordon#37 - agree your comments about the Koeman situation although he has always been third on my own realistic wishlist behind Emery and the de Boer "team" (a very close second!)
Gordon Crawford
42 Posted 27/05/2016 at 09:38:48
I could be completely wrong Martin mate. As long as Everton make the right appointment, I don't care who it is. Well except Moyes, Hughes, Howe etc. Lol
Martin Nicholls
43 Posted 27/05/2016 at 09:41:16
All this talk of Overmars as DofF makes me think that de Boer has maybe always been high on our list but subject to our bringing Overmars in. Maybe the delay is down to waiting for Overmars to make a decision? Who knows!!
Martin Nicholls
44 Posted 27/05/2016 at 09:42:09
Agree with you again Gordon!
Martin Nicholls
45 Posted 27/05/2016 at 09:44:11
de Boer now back as favourite with most bookies! Changes every day!
Ian Burns
46 Posted 27/05/2016 at 09:44:47
How strange is this period of time seeming to stand still at EFC? Most rumours emanating from the tabloids are usually just that - ie baseless rumours - but on occasion SSN or the BBC when quoting their own sources get it right or close to.

Progress on Koeman's contract talks at Southampton to take a case in point.

However we have heard absolutely nothing on EFC that seems to have any basis to even call it a rumour - it is all total conjecture.

Very strange - but only at the end will we know if has been professionally handled or if we have been going through a process of total, typical EFC mishandling and we end up with Moyes.

Terry Hughes
47 Posted 27/05/2016 at 09:53:27
Whoever does come in (and I still have hopes for Koeman) , I'd like to see a cull. Starting with Stones and Barkley, let's rinse as much money as we can get for them and start again.
John Louis Jones
48 Posted 27/05/2016 at 09:55:58
On a different not I think we should appoint Everton Ladies player Laura Merrin as manager how bad the football is it least the touchline would be outstanding.

https://twitter.com/LauraMerrin

Christy Ring
49 Posted 27/05/2016 at 10:16:20
The paper's are saying, Moshiri wants Overmars as director of football, and to change our coaching structure at the club. After looking at the fitness of our squad under Martinez, agree completely.
If Overmars does come, I hope it's a sign, De Boer, Stam and Berkamp are on their way.
David Midgley
50 Posted 27/05/2016 at 10:16:25
Very late last night/early hours of today, SSN had on their moving byline. It only appeared twice: The president of Athletico Madrid has said 'He doesn't think that Diego Simeone will be leaving the club.' Curious.
Denis Richardson
51 Posted 27/05/2016 at 10:21:31
Ronald certainly seems to have a hard on for Merseyside....

Think we'll find out next week who the new man is, believe there is a board meeting on 3rd June.

Christopher Wallace
52 Posted 27/05/2016 at 10:24:35
Kristian 17

No. Frank, the defender, was a much more accomplished player than Ronald, the attacking midfielder.

Frank often played sweeper. I've always found sweepers to be among the most intelligent footballers on the pitch.

Sam Hoare
53 Posted 27/05/2016 at 10:29:39
I agree Christopher. Cough, cough (I was/am a sweeper).

JLJ@35, interesting I didn't know that. Could well explain the delay then.

Is it bad that I'm slightly loving the uncertainty?! It feels a little like the days before Xmas. I just hope we don't unwrap our present to find a half eaten ginger nut – if you know what (who) I mean....

Robbie Muldoon
54 Posted 27/05/2016 at 10:32:24
29 John Louis Jones

These rumours that he plays the same as Martinez are not that true, his teams do not concede goals. Apart from the bullshit that came out of his mouth after every game, if Martinez's teams could have defended he would have won games at a canter. this was his biggest problem scoring goals wasn't Martinez's problem it was at the other end. If De Boer can do both I would be happy.

This is spot on.

We leaked too many goals. Especially the soft, late goals which did serious damage to the player's self-belief and confidence in their own talents which in turn manifested as zero trust in the manager's methods and approach.

If De Boer brings his brand of defensive shut outs to Goodison and we kick on with our attacking approach, that would send us right back to heights of the 2013-14 season, which for me, unlucky enough to miss the 80s, is still the high water mark in terms of performances I have witnessed by an Everton side.

Gareth Clark
55 Posted 27/05/2016 at 10:45:21
De Boer also played with wings and two creative midfielders, rather than defensive midfielders (McCarthy)

The full backs do a lot more defensive work and a bit less attacking in De Boer's system (4-3-3)

With our current team:

Robles;
Coleman, Jagielka, Funes Mori, Baines;
Stones, Davies;
Barkley;
Deulofeu, Niasse, Mirallas.

I'd be tempted to play Baines in midfield – and play Garbutt at left-back.

Sam Hoare
56 Posted 27/05/2016 at 10:55:38
I see Mancini's odds have come in a bit over the last few days. Was around 25/30 I think and now at 10. Could be a sensible move...
John Louis Jones
57 Posted 27/05/2016 at 10:56:24
More Twitter Hype:
Futbol Agent ‏@Futbol_Agent_ 11h11 hours ago

Exclusive: We understand Everton held advanced talks with Frank de Boer today. Both parties want a deal in place ASAP. #EFC

James Stewart
58 Posted 27/05/2016 at 11:07:59
@56 Would love Mancini, ticks every box.

De Boer I'm not really not sure about and all this rubbish his brother is constantly spouting sounds desperate. Stones doesn't know when to put it in Row Z, and will be leaving so it won't make a blind bit of difference to him who our new manager is.

Phil Sammon
59 Posted 27/05/2016 at 11:37:57
Gareth Clark 55

So our two central midfielders have the combined experience of ONE Premier League appearance in that position.

Clark OUT

Nigel Munford
60 Posted 27/05/2016 at 13:01:24
Phil, I'm worried Gareth has Niasse in his line up as well, should be Dowell.
Andrew James
61 Posted 27/05/2016 at 13:02:41
Not sure why the assumption both Stones and Lukaku are off.

No manager would want to come in and both of them leave. He might accept Lukaku because he's gradually making his role untenable every time he speaks. No reason why fresh faces and some investment couldn't keep Stones for another season. He didn't exactly have a stellar season so there is work to be done. Why not with us in a place he knows?

We haven't really installed Mirallas as the main man up front before as the likes of Lukaku, Kone and Jelavic have been around. Would be interested to see if that might be a striking solution although we do need back up.

Geoff Williams
62 Posted 27/05/2016 at 13:13:55
Yaap Stam being interviewed for the Reading job so wouldn't be part of de Boer's coaching team should he be appointed. Shame
Paul Kelly
63 Posted 27/05/2016 at 13:17:18
Wouldn't mind seeing Mirallas up top, or just on the pitch more. Lot more effective with him on the pitch than any other player we have on the left. Apart from Niasse, obviously.
Damian Wilde
64 Posted 27/05/2016 at 13:34:18
Iain (24)

"He also said his brother would make Lukaku play in the reserves after what he said. He gets brownie points for that."

Is this made up?

John (29)

"These rumours that he plays the same as Martinez are not that true, his teams do not concede goals. Apart from the BS that came out of his mouth after every game if Martinez's teams could have defended he would have won games at a canter. this was his biggest problem scoring goals wasn't Martinez's problem it was at the other end. If De Boer can do both I would be happy."

The big problem for me was that the football (pass x 500) was BORING. It'd be better if we concede less, but if it's boring, no thank you. The sideways pasding drives me nuts.

Martin (33)

"For those who think they know more about defending than Frank de Boer, take a look at Eredevisie table. Only 21 conceded in 34 games - 11 fewer than anyone else. And not at the expense of attack - 81 scored, the 2nd highest in the division."

In the mighty dutch league, yeah?

Are people not worried about the no booting it in defence bit? Jags is for it!

Is Ron his spokesperson?? Getting a bit annoying relatives banging on.

I think if he was first choice, he'd be named. But I don't think we'll get Emery (but would love him) so think FDB will be the next EFC manager. Desperate to find out. Board's silence is fecking annoying!!!

PS John (48) I don't think she is attractive.

Iain Latchford
65 Posted 27/05/2016 at 13:50:25
Damian, no not made up. The de Boer's share a Twitter account. Ronald said he would put Lukaku in the reserves, and so would his brother.

http://www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/football/518547/Frank-de-Boer-Ronald-de-Boer-Everton-Romelu-Lukaku-News-Gossip-Transfer-News-Latest

Ian Burns
66 Posted 27/05/2016 at 13:58:21
Reading sack a manager one day and the next day they are interviewing Jaap Stam. Utd sack a manager and a few days later a new incumbent. Nice sack a manager then Favre is in place. EFC sack a manager and that is the last anyone ever hears of anything - putting baseless rumours to one side of course.
Kieran Kinsella
67 Posted 27/05/2016 at 14:05:28
So Moshiri is trying to get Rom to stay but De Boer says he will stick him in the reserves. Not the best way to impress the owner.
Mark Boulle
68 Posted 27/05/2016 at 14:14:11
I'm trying so, so hard to keep my counsel here. The rational part of me knows things are going on in the background, talks are being had, offers made, interviews arranged etc. The rational part of me prefers it that way, rather than the very public Mourinho negotiation we've witnessed this week. Speaking of which, Jeez, when did appointing a manager become about his image rights? There was me thinking managerial talks were about things like tactics, transfer budget and so on...

But it's just so difficult not to shout and scream from the rooftops "GET ON WITH IT EVERTON", especially when there's nothing else going on to distract the ardent sports fan - the Euros haven't started, the cricket is too one-sided v Sri Lanka etc...!

2 weeks and a day since the sacking and counting...

Jay Wood
69 Posted 27/05/2016 at 14:22:21
Darryl @ 22 and Sam @ 34

"it feels like the board is waiting for someone..."

All to be revealed after Saturday's CL final - Simone or Luis Enrique it is then!

(a fellah can dream, can't he..?).

Jay Harris
70 Posted 27/05/2016 at 14:28:59
Or even Emery, Jay.

There is a rumour that if Zidane fails to win Emery is being lined up to replace him.

If RM do win then Emery may be tempted to us.

Could explain the delay?

All that's certain is nothing is certain.

Paul Kelly
71 Posted 27/05/2016 at 14:33:26
And welcome to another edition of "pimp my bro".

He'll have him in a shop window down Amsterdams red light district wearing nothing but a smile and an Everton hat next.

Tony Draper
72 Posted 27/05/2016 at 14:38:22
Sam @53
Brilliant! And yes, I entirely understand the frisson of anticipation. By parallel, I could relate a teenage encounter etc

You are entirely correct in your fear of the "half-eaten ginger nut".

Your posting was both hilarious and startlingly accurate. My sincere admiration.

Guy Hastings
73 Posted 27/05/2016 at 14:45:01
It may be that for once the EFC publicity people have go it right. Moshiri has got his man/men but won't announce it as not wanting to be submerged in the ocean of Mou Utd hype that's flooding the football pages.
John Davies
74 Posted 27/05/2016 at 14:47:00
Fucking Hell Everton. Enough speculation and supposition. What the fuck are we doing? TIME TO ACT !!!
Christopher Wallace
75 Posted 27/05/2016 at 14:56:38
Kieran 67

Maybe Moshiri wants him to stay so that Frank can put him in the reserves. Same hymn sheet ;)

Christopher Wallace
76 Posted 27/05/2016 at 15:05:24
Sam 53

Nice one! Sometimes the slowest players are dumped at sweeper as well.

I agree about the anticipation. With new owner/manager, few quid to spend, possibilities of big players leaving/signing, this has to be the most exciting summer I can remember (I'm 29). Could well be underwhelming, but let's complain about that later.

Brin Williams
77 Posted 27/05/2016 at 15:27:23
SH 53 - Nothing wrong with sweepers m8, My granny was a sweeper, my mother was a sweeper and the wife was a sweeper until I got her a Dyson for her birthday/retirement.

TD 36 What are you on sunshine? Sounds like something that flew over the cuckoo's nest! Certainly over my head!!

Brin Williams
78 Posted 27/05/2016 at 15:33:58
I think that this selection of manager thing is something that Everton have down to a fine art. Firstly when you have loads and loads of options, why make your mind up straight away. No, the secret is to wait. Wait until people like Mourinho are taken out of the list, Benitez stays at a Championship side, another silly bugger opts for Nice, and so on, UNTIL that list is so small it becomes manageable, THEN when you only have say two or three left without a club THAT is the time to jump in and grab the one that really wanted to come in the first place.
Easy really, don't know what all the fuss is all about, the board have sussed it all out, no problem.
Damian Wilde
79 Posted 27/05/2016 at 15:35:41
Thanks Iain. Love it!! Can you imagine his face? It'd be fantastiv. Arrogant get.

Jay:

"All that's certain is nothing is certain."

Agree. And humans hate uncertainty!

I'm getting frustrated with the wait, typical Everton.

Martin Nicholls
80 Posted 27/05/2016 at 16:04:00
Damian#64. Everything is relative within a league - you can only score/defend against what is in front of you and 81 goals for, 21 against suggests de Boer did exactly that. Prior to coming to England Ferguson managed in Scotland, Mourinho in Portugal and Wenger in Japan (after France). None of those leagues could be described as "mighty" most are/were on a par with or of lower standard than Eredevisie. Had Ferguson, Mourinho or Wenger been appointed at EFC on arrival in England and achieved the same success, disparaging remarks about where they'd managed previously could leave one with egg on one's face!
Daniel A Johnson
81 Posted 27/05/2016 at 16:08:08
Wish this guy would just shut up.

Its getting embarrassing, imagine if he became manager his brother would be constantly at it in the press saying this saying that.

Christopher Wallace
82 Posted 27/05/2016 at 16:51:40
Anyone else think that this is all Frank with these comments, posing as his twin so as not to look too desperate?!
Damian Wilde
83 Posted 27/05/2016 at 16:51:40
Martin, so you think FDB will be as successful as Ferguson and Wenger?
Bill Griffiths
84 Posted 27/05/2016 at 16:58:14
While FDB would be my own personal choice I really can't see this happening. I'd have thought if Moshiri and The Board were considering him they would have made contact with him by now.

The way things have gone and are going I think it will be Pellegrini. He would not be my choice due to his age but he has the necessary credentials.

Martin Nicholls
85 Posted 27/05/2016 at 17:01:33
Damian - who knows? Like you (I think) my preferred choice of the realistic prospective managers would, and has long been, Emery but even if he were appointed none of us could know how much of a success or failure he might be. I would not be unhappy with de Boer if we could not get Emery. Bottom line of course is that whoever is appointed will be a gamble - we can only hope that that person emulates Ferguson/Wenger but that of course is highly unlikely.
Damian Wilde
86 Posted 27/05/2016 at 18:05:19
Martin, of course with any manager, there is uncertainty
Colin Glassar
87 Posted 27/05/2016 at 18:09:40
I wonder if our new manager will get the same Coronation treatment by the media like Mourinho is getting today? Somehow I doubt it.
Tony Draper
88 Posted 27/05/2016 at 18:36:57
Brin @77
It's called imagination mate.

It's what you can do when you allow your mind to stray beyond the short and narrow, "Moyesian grey lines".

Give it a go, it's a fuckin' blast !

Tony Draper
89 Posted 27/05/2016 at 18:42:21
Colin, the "Echo" has a 20 page full colour supplement planned to celebrate our forthcoming managerial appointment.
Unless a cat/dog runs across Oakfield Road in the meantime.
Roy Steel
90 Posted 27/05/2016 at 19:24:40
Just heard on Sky Sports that Jaap Stam is being interviewed for a job at Reading. He would have done a real job at Everton alongside FdB or somebody else.

I can't stand this deafening silence from Everton. Have we someone lined up or not? This is shit.
Damian Wilde
91 Posted 27/05/2016 at 20:15:43
Jose saying what a great manager he us. Arrogant prick. Would love it if he fails.
Darren Hind
93 Posted 28/05/2016 at 05:48:34
James Flynn

"Stones is clueless on the basics" ? . .Oh the irony

How silly will the worlds leading coaches look when they scramble for his signature this summer. If only they'd asked Jimmy the soccer fan. He'd have put them straight long ago.

De Boers refusal to kick the ball into the stand will not go down well with the Philistines. . .let alone Jagelka and Funes Mori

Peter Barry
94 Posted 28/05/2016 at 05:59:52
Other clubs are signing new Managers signing new players re-confirming old Managers and generally getting on with the job of running a football club. Meanwhile the Everton board sits with their thumbs up their bums and their minds in neutral and that is why we are in the situation we are.
Peter Keefe
95 Posted 28/05/2016 at 07:58:38
Food for thought. Silence from the board. Potentials come and gone. If FdB was the man, he would already be here.

What is the big game tonight? Champions League – that's what. Holding off announcing Simeone until its finished.

Read Neville's article in the Mirror. Simeone is the bad ass we need and I'm sure he would relish getting stuck in against the Manc and RS puppets.

I live in hope.

Peter Keefe
96 Posted 28/05/2016 at 08:13:34
On another note regarding Farhad Moshiri and the board, I believe what is perceived as madness in their method is actually method in their madness. There has to be a reason and I am sure we will all find out when the timing is right. Jeez... the wait is killing.
Damian Wilde
97 Posted 28/05/2016 at 08:55:28
The good thing about getting a new manager in would be so he could comment on the Rom situation e.g. tell him to shut up.
Loko Sanchez
98 Posted 28/05/2016 at 13:38:46
I have to agree with James Flynn. A good defender would not let that many goals in. True defense is a team effort but when the midfield breaks down, the defensive players are there for a reason.

His popularity was fueled by the hype of the first season. When the team functions well, Stones is the best centre-back in the Premier League. When the team fails like this season, Stones is average at best. He has tremendous potential, but as Flynn said, get the fundamentals right and he will be Barça bound in no time.

Martin Mason
99 Posted 28/05/2016 at 19:20:31
I notice that the rigid 4-5-1 is about as popular as herpes now and, as far as I can see, no serious International and club sides are using it now.

It needed a very special boring lone forward who could hold the ball up and a completely negative 2 defensive midfielders, an anti football formation practiced by managers like Moyes with weaker squads and idiots like Martinez who had a squad who could play an alternative way. I hope that we don't get a manager who is wedded to one system and that should be a key interview question.

We should also not have a manager who like RM was blinded by the Barcelona myth of tippy tappy football. They were good not because of tippy tappy but were so good that they could tippy tappy the ball around lesser teams. There is a massive difference. Tippy tappy is idiotic football.

Peter Keefe
100 Posted 29/05/2016 at 11:33:25
Quote from Simeone in the Guardian (so it must be true-ahem..!!) “Simeone, who has won every major trophy with Atlético in his four and a half years in charge apart from the Champions League, cast his future at the club into doubt when asked if he had thought about resigning.

“Do I have to continue with Atlético or is it the end of a cycle? I have to think about that” Simeone told a news conference."

Come on folks, fingers and toes crossed.

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