Liam Walsh joins Bristol City

This is worse than RB leaving for me as this kid has talent in abundance that we never got to see, cause we always play two defensive midfielders.

He'll probably be back in the Premier League next season, bossing our lot.

What makes you think Allardyce sold the player?

What a day, what a club.

Antonee Robinson;s loan extended, Gethin Jones leaving, Barkley too "Big Sam has no interest in youngsters, developing potential or Everton's future." (Dick Brady) I'm afraid Allardyce is only part of the problem. What is the club's long term strategy ? is it the slow dismantling of the club in readiness for the super European leagues (prior to WC2022) which will only accommodate one club from Liverpool ?

But to be fair, very few of our youngsters have come back to haunt us so one has to assume that we don't think he's of sufficient quality for our ambitions

Big mistake letting Liam go.

Worth noting that during Rhino's time in charge, while giving chances to several youngsters, he did not elevate Walsh to the first team at any point, not even the bench if I recall.

Sell.

The fee seems ridiculously low. I only hope we've got him nailed down to return if he plays well and so turn this transfer into an extended loan and pay Bristol to develop him for us.

Mike Gaines, Walsh was ineligible to play for Everton until 1st January. He was effectively registered with Birmingham City until that date even though he was brought back from loan.

I've never seen the lad play but I've been told he's good. He may just have to take a step back to take two forwards.

I also have no issue with Allardyce wanting to sign players at the 25-30 age bracket. Despite all the wailing and moaning (of which I can be guilty!) we have good young players in and around the first team. To progress, we need to bring in established players who can make an impact in the short to mid term. The problem is finding those players.

20 years old seems a bit young to be completely fed up of U23s / loan moves unless you genuinely believe you have been overlooked in favour of lesser players.

Seems to me that Liam must have wanted to leave and thought that playing in a lower league regularly was the best way to go.

I don't know if he would have proved worthwhile but, at the moment, those youngsters presently playing in the 1st team seem, at least, to be among the more enterprising until some Manager directs them to change their natural game. Davies's goal against Man City being an example until told to concentrate more on defence.

The Dinosaur argument seems to be growing and those asking why people think the current manager is responsible may only be pointing out the discord in the/our club.

If you are given a chance at 18/19 (Davies, Baningime, Holgate, Calvert-Lewin) then I suspect you've demonstrated that you really do have the potential to play in the Premier League.

If you're not loaned or not given a chance in the Premier League team, you are there just to make the numbers up – Henen, Charsley, Donkor and come 22-23 years old then you will just be allowed to leave, and find your own club.

Tough world, particularly for a Premier League Academy graduate who probably has access to the finest facilities, total care packages and I suspect some decent money, then the world collapses and you find yourself in League One, League Two or Non- League on a totally different scale to say Everton. At least Walsh has been given the chance at a Championship Club, but the majority of the list above will be lucky to stay as full time pros.

I saw Liam Walsh on a number of occasions and thought he has everything you need except 6 inches in height which to many managers would be a No-Go unless you had tremendous pace (which he hasn't) or a skill level akin to Willian, Hazard, and Wilshere, which I'm not sure he has.

He does look stronger... obviously time in the weight room... no longer the wispy figure we saw at the U20s.

But the impressive young player for Forest is Brereton, not Dowell.

But, as you say, he does not involve himself enough. I still hope that he can become a serious asset for us, though I am worried about him. It's mental strength again, same as with Rodwell and Barkley.

After moving to City and getting chewed up and spat out, he lacked the desire to rebuild his career at Sunderland. He's already set for life, and perhaps without that bank balance, he could have re-found the form he had for us before injuries got him.

We the fans demand to know? What are you talking about? What on earth do you think gives you/us the right to know the ins & outs of the internal business dealings of a private business like Everton Football Club?

You're just a fan like me, you don't have any such right!

His weaknesses I think are: he doesn't control a game, he flits in and out, he went for really long periods yesterday when he hardly got a kick. He isn't and never will be a grafter (that's not saying that's a bad point), but most managers now days in the Premier League want not just quality, but also a huge workrate.

He reminds me of a Duncan McKenzie, rather than a Kevin Sheedy. The former won nothing but pleased the crowd; the latter won everything and also pleased the crowd.

I am not a fan of players who go out on loan for Championship clubs as they generally return much the same as when they left.

Osman and Barkley are two examples of players who never blossomed as expected and were disappointments although given more than a fair share of opportunities.

Dowell offers nothing more than Calvert-Lewin, Vlasic or Lookman.

Even though he wasn't bad against an Gunners' 2nd eleven, it was the other younger guy (Brereton) who looked the prospect.

Osman was a good player for us. Dowell is a completely different player to those you mention and offers creativity, a good left foot, and goals.

Good footballing side; have a real chance of going up I reckon.

"Talking about his playing style, Walsh said: "I like to get on the ball and I am quite loud on the pitch, I like to tell people what to do and where to go.

"I always want to win games, I hate losing."

No wonder the club sold him.