A Disgrace to the Shirt

By Lyndon Lloyd 05/01/2020 378comments  |  Jump to last
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Gutless. Spineless. Witless. Hapless. Choose your adjective. Everton’s long-suffering fans have witnessed some pathetic performances at Anfield in recent years but this one, against a Liverpool team featuring nine changes and stuffed with inexperienced kids, takes the biscuit.

Everton turned in a second-half display so bereft of fight, quality, spirit and urgency that it left you wishing half the players could all be thrown out the club tomorrow. Sadly, as the imminent financial accounts will show, the club is counting the significant cost of almost four years of horrendously expensive and just plain horrendous recruitment that will no doubt ensure that Carlo Ancelotti will need all of the four-and-a-half years of his contract to fix it.

The second 45 minutes in particular was indescribably bad from a group of players who, you felt, couldn't get much worse than some of the dross they have served up already this season but whether through fatigue or a simple sense of the futility that has embodied this fixture for Everton for two decades, they appeared to just give up.

No doubt due to the knock the veteran picked up against at Manchester City on New Year’s Day, Fabian Delph was only named among the substitutes but in his stead, Ancelotti might as well not have fielded a midfield at all given the black hole that existed there for much of this contest.

Against such youthful opposition, Gylfi Sigurdsson — has a player ever suffered such a precipitous drop-off in production and form from one season to the next? — and Morgan Schneiderlin should have bossed this game from start to finish; instead, they turned in two of their worst performances in an Everton jersey which, based on everything that has gone on already this season, is quite something. Both are on massive six-figures-per-week salaries but neither are deserving of another minute in an Everton jersey. Sadly, though, unless there will be incoming personnel this month, the manager will have little option.

They were deployed in the most important area of the pitch but they weren’t alone in their ineptitude, their lack of strength, passion and effectiveness. Djibril Sidibé, first as a wing back and then as full-back after the equally terrible Seamus Coleman had been withdrawn, was shocking for 90 minutes. His compatriot on the other flank, Lucas Digne, a pale shadow of the player who was deservedly named player of the season last year, wasn’t much better.

The remainder of a jittery defence that looked scared of its own shadow in front of Jordan Pickford and his awful distribution embarrassed itself trying to play through Klopp’s high press and was frequently forced to whack it aimlessly long or give possession away by giving to the duo in midfield who either weren’t showing for the ball or who proved similarly incapable of consistently finding a blue shirt with a pass.

For so much of this increasingly dejecting match, the team full of kids was the one playing with all the composure while the one with four players 30 or older and stuffed with internationals was struggling just to do the basics. And it was a reliance on the basic, later abandoned, that had served them so well in the first half hour of the game, one which they looked capable of winning, either through a moment of superior quality or simply attrition.

One of Sigurdsson’s only meaningful contributions, a sublime ball into the box for Theo Walcott, set up Everton’s first chance, a low drive from around the penalty spot from Dominic Calvert-Lewin that was perhaps too accurate in that he put it down the middle and Adrian was able to save with his feet.

Then, after Calvert-Lewin had been fouled in a dangerous area, Holgate latched onto a whipped free-kick from Sigurdsson but he planted a free header straight at the goalkeeper.

Everton’s strategy of going direct and bypassing midfield was proving productive at times and they picked Walcott out down the right flank in the 27th minute where the winger was able to the ball back from the byline for Richarlison but he, too, was denied by Adrian’s foot.

Four minutes after that, Walcott came within an inch or so of connecting with Calvert-Lewin but his cross was just too far ahead for the striker’s diving header to connect and steer goal-wards.

Apart from Yerry Mina’s glancing header off a corner and a Calvert-Lewin effort from the edge of the area that he dragged wide with Sidibé calling for it in space to his right, the Blues didn’t really threaten for the remainder of the first half. But with Liverpool failing to unduly trouble Pickford, it felt as though it was only a matter of time before Ancelotti’s men made the breakthrough.

The very early stages of the second period followed the pattern of the first and Sidibé’s neat chested layoff from a corner to Schneiderlin gave the French midfielder an opportunity to find the target but he swept his shot disappointingly over the crossbar.

Then the tide started turning and Everton gradually disappeared from the contest. Neco Williams tested Pickford with a powerful drive and Pickford was forced to push a bouncing, speculative effort from Divock Origi before Curtis Jones produced the moment of magic that the match had been sorely missing, particularly from those in blue jerseys.

The 18-year-old collected Origi’s pass after good hold-up play by the Belgian and he sized up a shot from the edge of the area that he curled over Pickford’s despairing fingertips and in off the underside of the bar.

The effect on Everton, with all the experience in its ranks playing in front 8,000 expectant supporters, was utterly demoralising because Ancelotti’s men appeared to lose all belief and any remaining ability to string together a series of passes.

Bernard came on for Walcott, whose promising first-half display had been ruined by a truly abysmal second, and offered a couple of flourishes, Moise Kean, introduced for Coleman in the 63rd minute, ran around like a headless chicken for the last half hour before despatching a sliced stoppage-time volley into the Kop, and Delph was thrown on in a vain attempt to add some nous in the middle but none of the manager’s substitutions made much of an impact.

Instead, it was a Klopp change, Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain, who forced the last save of the game in the 74th minute, shooting low towards Pickford’s near post but the England international was equal to it.

Ultimately, Everton’s failure to put a single effort on target in the final hour of the match was a damning indictment of the performance and the players who plumbed new depths of awfulness in a season that will almost certainly be defined by it if things don’t change markedly over the remainder of another lost season.

Just four games into a tenure he may already be regretting, Ancelotti will have had his eyes opened to the problems that exist in this squad and the amount of work that will be required to turn it around. So early in his reign, this one wasn’t on the manager; this was squarely on a group of players who have largely escaped the worst of the criticism and allowed Marco Silva to carry the can but now have nowhere left to hide. They were handed a route into the fourth round and they bottled it. Put frankly, they were a disgrace to the shirt and the badge.

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Ralph Basnett
1 Posted 05/01/2020 at 20:10:50
Wow, but true. Totally bereft of anything.

Everton, typical.

Geoff Williams
2 Posted 05/01/2020 at 20:16:51
It is going to take sometime for me to get over this debacle. I'm not sure if I'll go to Goodison again this season, I am us disillusioned with the club and the players but I am particularly disappointed with the performance of our Big Name manager, his team selection was wrong, his tactics were awful and his lack of passion was there for all to see.
Martin Mason
3 Posted 05/01/2020 at 20:17:48
Everton had no answer to the way Liverpool pressed them at the back, not just one on one but two on one and all they could do was pass back to Pickford who whacked it upfield from where it immediately came back. Anybody playing further forward than the two traffic bollards in our midfield had no chance. As soon as Liverpool realised how totally hopeless we were they started to play the ball around too for the most embarrassing defeat I've ever seen Everton go down to.
Paul Tran
4 Posted 05/01/2020 at 20:17:59
An appalling second half display.

The good thing is that early on, Ancelotti has seen the mental weakness of these players against City and against a team of Lpool youngsters.

My hope is that he now recognises the need for at least one physically & mentally strong centre mid who can drive the team forwards and teach some nous to our young players, and the older ones who are interested.

We have too many weak players who don't score goals. That must change, I'd like to think Ancelotti knows who we need.

Jerome Shields
5 Posted 05/01/2020 at 20:22:40
It was a disgrace to the shirt. Everton collapsed in that second half. Against a first team at Anfield they could have been beaten 5 nil plus.

Everton now return to normal with extra holidays, as usual, since they are out of FA Cup and League Cup, in addition to the International breaks. God help us.

Ancelotti did not learn from the Man City game and did not consult with Big Dunc regarding best tactics. He has got a right kick in the ass at Anfield as a result, which he deserves.

Everton in that second half where unfit and unprepared.

Daniel A Johnson
6 Posted 05/01/2020 at 20:24:00
In the 2nd half we didn't lay a glove on them.

Say what you like about Liverpool but their players now have a desire to win a pride in the shirt and the club. Effort and application, pride.

We have none of that, from top to bottom Everton FC is riddled with mediocrity, gutless, spineless and disgraceful.

Everton FC left me feeling ashamed tonight. Ashamed.

Steve Hogan
7 Posted 05/01/2020 at 20:25:41
Sounds like a cliche, but certainly a watershed moment for the club and it's players. At least six of that team have now reached the end of their Everton career's.

Whoever gave the massive contracts to Sygi, Schneiderlin, Walcott etc need to hang their heads in shame.

Not just the inflated salaries but the actual length of their contracts is disgusting. They need to leave the club this season, no if's or buts, they simply have nothing left to offer the club as player's.

As soon as were safe from the dreaded R word, Carlo has to give the likes of Anthony Gordon and some of the other highly rated youngsters a run in the team, can they honestly fare any worse than the three above?

I hope the manger is ruthless, he needs to be.

Bill Fairfield
9 Posted 05/01/2020 at 20:26:54
At the next home game I'll only be applauding the shirts onto the pitch not the absolute shite that's inside them
Tony Byrne
10 Posted 05/01/2020 at 20:30:12
Not long back from the match,

Never in all my years watching Everton, have I witnessed a 2nd half display as bad as that, ever.

A midfield so bereft of any idea whatsoever, against a bunch of kids who, "ran rings around them."

That display summed up the disgraceful mis-management of the clubs recruitment policy of the past 4 years.

Carlo genuinely needs a new 11, these spineless fuckers should be replaced by the under 23,s in the league.

Tony Marsh
11 Posted 05/01/2020 at 20:33:04
I don't get it. Surely this one is on Ancelotti? In what other walk of life or business would a new boss stick with the same workforce that got the previous 4 bosses the sack? It's mind-blowing that Ancelotti thought Sigurdsson, Schniderlin, Walcott, Coleman etc could work after all the times they have failed in the past.

Klopp schooled Ancelotti today, starting on Friday by letting it be known he was playing the kids. That saw Everton odds tumble and we became favourites to win the game. Pressure now on us... What Ancelotti should've done is the same thing. Told the press the League was more important and chucked some of our Under-23s in. Best in the country... aren't they?

Anyhow, Ancelotti pressed the same self-destruct button as Koeman, Unsworth, Allardyce and Marco Silva loved to press. Carlo played the duds and we lost. Surely 4 or 5 of our kids could've done better than the walking dead that played today? Ancelotti bottled it and he morphed into Marco Silva today. The buck stops with him.

I wanted Big Duncan to stay in charge until the season end. The top-draw elite players and clubs Ancelotti is used to managing are a different animal altogether, it's a different art form. A different interpretation of the game to where he is now at Everton. Chalk and Cheese. Carlo is not cut out for this type of football.

The intensity Duncan Ferguson brought with him has vanished. Ancelotti appears as clueless as Silva on this showing. This is worse than the 5-2 loss last month. We all know the players that got the other managers the sack. Pity Carlo doesn't recognise a poor player when he sees one. That starting 11 today had Marco and Ronald written all over it.

Charles Barrow
12 Posted 05/01/2020 at 20:33:50
Possibly the worst defeat in recent years. Certainly the most humiliating!

I never thought that Shankly's boast that the best two teams on Merseyside were Liverpool and Liverpool reserves would actually come true.

Mark Dunford
13 Posted 05/01/2020 at 20:39:40
The second half was as bad as I’ve seen. No threat, a team of internationals outclassed by Liverpool’s C team. Midfield was shocking throughout and - even in the first half - it was only long balls that led to an Everton threat. Sigurdsson, Schneiderlein and Delph should be out at the first serious opportunity to bin them. Unfit to play most of the time and now confirmed as unfit to wear the shirt again. I find Delph’s histrionics especially irritating - he needs to look in the mirror before criticising others. Everyone may well be shit but that includes him.

What happened to Beningme? Always injured. He looked so promising when he was in the first team and the signing of the equally injured Gbamim was baffling. Gordon has to be given a serious chance ahead of Walcott. Other than this, we need to sign players and let youth have a serious chance. Letting Lundström go was clearly a big mistake. Who else will come back to haunt us from the crop of promising youngsters nurtured by Unsworth? We can’t allow more young players to go without them having a chance while the first team squad is crammed full of proven failures.

Oh, and yes, we have an injury list, but this was their C team.

Kevin Prytherch
14 Posted 05/01/2020 at 20:40:09
All those who slate Tom Davies - I can barely remember a forward pass from our central midfield in the second half...

I do think, as fans, we don’t know what we want. We criticise players for losing it when trying something going forward. The result is a midfield who always play safe, and inept performances like this.

Although I’ve slated Sigurdsson, we were instantly poorer when Delph came on.

The only players to come out of this game with any credit were Pickford, Holgate, Mina and DCL - whereas Richalison was ok.

I said after the last game that we’d have been better off with Big Dunc in charge for this game and the City game and I stand by that. Not saying that he’s better than Carlo, but he’s have had the team playing better than that.

Mike Anson
15 Posted 05/01/2020 at 20:43:14
Can't argue with a single word from Lyndon. A great opportunity to progress to the 4th round and to lay the Anfield bogey to rest. But no, the club was let down by a cowardly and spineless set of so called professionals.

If I was Ancellotti I'd be having them in one at a time and leaving them in no uncertain terms that performances like that are totally unacceptable. Can accept a lot of poor things but no pride in the shirt or themselves leaves a bad taste in the mouth.

Schneiderlin and Sigurdsson are far too slow as a midfield pairing, Digne is not the player of last season, Coleman's legs have gone. Tosun, Walcott and others simply not good enough. We need to stop buying other teams rejects ad buy hungry players.

Rant over

Shaun Laycock
16 Posted 05/01/2020 at 20:47:55
Profoundly embarrassed...
Christine Foster
17 Posted 05/01/2020 at 20:51:01
Tonight I am ashamed to be an Evertonian. Over the last 50 years I have seen some pretty poor performances, I have seen bad luck, poor decisions and injuries leave us with a what if perspective of our team.
Not tonight. That was as bad as it could get. No excuses for a heart breaking performance by a team who as you quite rightly say, no longer deserve the right to wear the shirt. In fact going further, I would be happy if many of them are shipped out this month. They deserve it. We don't.
A massive restructure is required and few of the current incumbents should or will survive.
I am tired of looking for others to blame for the mess we are in, but the truth is what we saw tonight was an abject display from the players. Totally unacceptable from pure effort alone.. if I was Ancelotti I would bring in every player and tell them one at a time that they have no future at the club or those who he deems fit, that they have to the end of the season to justify keeping.

I have never, ever seen an Everton team in all my days without the desire to fight. ( Moyes had me think it was poor, but this?)

Make a statement. Sack a few high profile players immediately.

Keep on doing it until the penny drops.

Angry...Upset.. embarrassed.. but most of all ashamed to be a blue. Thats how low I am. Not even relegation hurts as much..

David Thomas
18 Posted 05/01/2020 at 20:51:28
No one can come out of the game with any credit.

That was a disgrace an absolute shambles and probably the most embarrassing defeat of my 60 years supporting this club.

There is not a player in that squad I could give a toss about if we sold tonight.

Brian Williams
19 Posted 05/01/2020 at 20:51:37
Cowardly, no other word for it.
Strong word to use but fitting for several of our players today.
Some players played very badly and sometimes good players do, BUT there's no excuse for cowardice and it can't be forgiven.
Mike Connolly
20 Posted 05/01/2020 at 20:56:13
Geoff 2
I feel like you that I don't want to go the next match. I like most of us, sick the way we are playing. We were getting beat are still trying to play from the back. I feel the players who start playing the ball from the back. are the unfit ones in the team. Just taping the ball to each other, means they don't have to run about. Shankly did say there were two teams in Liverpool. Liverpool and Liverpool Reserves. He got that slightly wrong It should have been the youth team. This is the worse time I have been embarrassed to be an Evertonian. Even when Tranmere beat us it was not as bad as this
John P McFarlane
21 Posted 05/01/2020 at 20:57:02
There is a constant suspicion that those who hold power at the club aren't very often all on the same page. Undoubtedly there are those who would have given Duncan the job for the rest of this campaign and perhaps beyond or they might have turned to a former boss rather than another foreign outsider.

I agree that Everton trying to play the ball around at the back is tantamount to footballing suicide, and it makes no sense that players who already lack confidence and ability need that extra pressure put upon them. Is this due to Moshiri, asking for a certain style of play from his manager(s)? Do the likes of Siggy, Walcott and Snides have to be chosen to play, due to their salaries or because of the instructions of the owner?

I don't know what to think about the club and the players at this moment in time, but for a brief period of a fortnight or so we thought the team was back in shape and ready to fully represent us out on the pitch. But the last two games have shown us all that it was a blip and the reality is what we have witnessed for much of the last five years.

Money hasn't solved the problems it has made things worse, but someone has to take ownership of the issues facing the club and they must think long and hard about what the 'project' actually means.

I'll be happy when I see eleven players on the pitch able to pass a ball correctly more often than misplacing or under/over hitting them, shoot accurately more often than not and eleven players who fall to their knees at the end of a match because they've given their all for the cause - I fear it may be a long time before I feel happy again.


Rick Tarleton
22 Posted 05/01/2020 at 20:59:44
As bad a display as I've ever seen since 53-4. A jittery goalkeeper, a defence that when pressed is so slow and neurotic it just wants to be rid, a midfield without fight or energy and three forwards who never look to link up. I can't think of one player who deserved 3/10 today.
Coleman has gone, whatever combination of central defenders you choose thay totally lack pace and confidence under pressure, Schneiderlin,Sigurdsson and Delph are ravaged by age and injuries, they are useless and Richarlison plays on his own, I've yet to see poor Kean get five touches in the cameos he's played. Ancelotti and Brands will earn their corn if they turn this lot round.
Are Davies, Tosun andBernard really worse than the pathetic lot we put out today.
Liverpool and Liverpool Reserves! He was right.
Jeff Armstrong
23 Posted 05/01/2020 at 21:00:34
How do Holgate, Mina, and maybe Richarlison come out of this game with any credit, non of them can control a ball, non of them can weight a pass to a teammate, non of the above mentioned are decent footballers, they where as dogs hit as the rest of them.
James Stewart
24 Posted 05/01/2020 at 21:02:37
Shameful. The whole lot of them should be fined and transfer listed.
Jamie Evans
25 Posted 05/01/2020 at 21:06:08
Really hope Ancelotti has learnt not to pass it out from the back. We don’t have the players, it’s a recipe for disaster. Easy for other teams to defend against and also put us under pressure through pressing.

Really need to adopt a more direct approach.

Imagine having to vote a player of the year for this lot towards the end of the season...

Tony Everan
26 Posted 05/01/2020 at 21:08:30
Get it off your chest Lyndon lad, let it all hang out. This terrible performance deserved every word of it.

I hope Carlo has some answers where the others failed. This performance reeked of mental weakness and no confidence. The more I watched the more I felt there was no beating heart of this team. We are weak physically, for speed and mentally in the middle of the park. Tom Davies comes in for some stick but he is head and shoulders above Sigurdsson and Schneiderlin who have done absolutely nothing to be starting ahead of him.

Some serious wheeler dealer-ing needs to be done to get some players out that need a fresh start to reignite their careers. Most of all we need to get a quality central midfielder in until our first choices Gomes and Gbamin return. Ancelotti will step up the search from tomorrow, guaranteed.

Sigurdsson, Schneiderlin, Walcott , Bolaise, Tosun, Niasse and one or two more are now journeymen, earning a massive wage, and have not and never will, improve the team. Brands has the impossible/difficult task of selling or trading them. Our immediate future is tied to his success at doing it. Best of luck to him.

Peter Laing
27 Posted 05/01/2020 at 21:09:43
I bet Marco Silva is sat on a sun-lounger somewhere nice and tropical and let out a huge belly laugh when he heard the score. As bad as he was, he was nowhere near as bad as the spineless bastards that cost him his job.
Dave Evans
28 Posted 05/01/2020 at 21:10:51
After consideration of the possibility of hyperbole this is he worst performance I have seen.in 40 years. These were LFC kids. Klopp wanted out of the F.A. cup and we were so spineless we could not deliver a defeat.
Never has there been such a disconnect between Everton fans and the team
Occasionally in the past, Everton may have been a poor team in the eyes of other supporters. This game has made us a laughing stock.
Luke Welch
29 Posted 05/01/2020 at 21:10:58
Agree blame lays with Ancellotti, tactics completely wrong. Should of kept Duncan.
Stephen Waller
30 Posted 05/01/2020 at 21:13:37
I pray that there are 3 worse teams than us at the end of the season in the league but on that performance I just don't see it. This group of players in the main cant handle pressure and they freeze. Klopp out thought Ancellotti by playing the kids who were hungrier, sharper and playing for the shirt. Where do we go from here????
Sandra Bowen
31 Posted 05/01/2020 at 21:14:16
A truly shameful performance from the biggest bunch of losers to ever wear the shirt. To be completely bossed by a team made of kids and reserves and not lay a glove on them all second half is unacceptable.

Absolute bunch of losers. I can understand the manager picking that side and expecting better but completely agree that he isn’t blameless either. But seriously, how can professional footballers, pretty much all Internationals come out and play like that. I’d be fuming if my 3 year old daughter passed like these idiots. I don’t get it.

Bin the lot of them, starting with the dickhead in goal. Most overrated keeper ever and get rid whilst we can still get a decent fee for him. It’s only a matter of time before everyone realises how crap he really is.

I never want to see Sigurdson, Walcott or Schneiderlin in the shirt again. Need a whole new midfield bit if we can’t buy this January, play some kids. They really can’t do any worse.

Keith Gleave
32 Posted 05/01/2020 at 21:15:10
I missed the first 55 mins but was totally embarrassed with what I did see. Players who had no idea, couldn’t string two passes together and could not run ten yards.
I don’t really blame Ancelotti, now knows the dross he has and their complete lack of pride in the shirt and respect for the fans. In 59 years of watching and supporting this club, I have never felt more embarrassed. The only possible positive I can take from this is that you need to reach rock bottom before you can make your way up. I hope this is rock bottom.
Ian Riley
33 Posted 05/01/2020 at 21:16:03
Can we have a transfer window for the fans?

I want to go out on loan for two years!

I shall return to a team that can pass, control and the shirt actually means something!

Knowing my luck, my transfer request will be turned down. Morgan schneiderlin will be given a three year contract and Gomes is like a new signing. Everton fans are not chosen. They are handed down by their fathers as punishment. Even friends once made jokes take pity. Carlo must be in shock. Welcome Carlo to our world. The doctor will see you soon.

Joe McMahon
34 Posted 05/01/2020 at 21:20:55
Starting from our last win at Anfield (over 20 years ago) there has been many low points.

Shrewsbury 2 Everton 1 (the year Shrewsbury were relgated to Conference)

Everton 0 Tranmere 3

Everton 0 Wigan 3 (missed opportunity in Cup)

Semi v Liverpool at Wembley (1 up at HT and still lost)

Many thrashings in Europe by not even the top teams and in the league, Blackburn, and WBA scoring 4 at Goodison.

For me the best football on the eye in that time was Martinez first season, and the 2008 season. Even when we finished 4th winning 1- 0 mainly the football was not great to watch.

Todays performance however was shameless and as bad as it's been, but it's also been 20 years in the making. Even when I saw both starting line ups I had a nagging feeling we won't do it with S&S in the team. I was reminded of the FA cup semi v UTD when we could only beat a much weakend UTD team on penalties.

I just don't think Mosh has the money for what is required even now finally we have a manager who has dined at the top table.

Looking at the hight standard of the young Liverpool players of the future, it looks like our B Team, U23s is not fit for purpose. What are they doing that we are not?

Kase Chow
35 Posted 05/01/2020 at 21:22:27
The worst I have ever ever felt as an Evertonian

A complete utter embarrassment.

Lyndon, you write so well but I must disagree with you on 1 thing: this was DEFINITELY on Ancellotti. How could he think we were good enough to play through their press? Especially after seeing the first half?

We should have played longer passes to get them turning OR he should have put an extra midfielder in there to change our 442 to a 433

Dunc’s team wouldn’t have been as disgraceful

What next? If I were Klopp I’d play my 4th choice team against us. And I bet we would fare just as badly

There is NO excuse for that today. Today I hated being an Evertonian. It’s just been disappointment after disappointment

The red lot wanted it more and are a credit to their club. Our lot were pathetic and I will never ever forgive them for today. There is nothing they can realistically do to redeem themselves

Bunch of cretins

Jay Woods
36 Posted 05/01/2020 at 21:23:51
Not a warrior among them; the club should be renamed White Flag Merseyside and play with a huge Ajax-style band up the belly of the shirt, but in the appropriate colour of yellow.

And Ancelotti, for all his credentials, has, like all of his recent predecessors, failed to understand the importance of winning the derby, going by that supine surrender in the second half. What did he say at half time? "Careful now, they're only kids."???

We're at the point now where a derby win is not to be considered a luxurious topping to any season; rather, it's an absolute demand on which any Everton manager's tenure must stands or fall. This run of derby failures is utterly unacceptable.

Dave Evans
37 Posted 05/01/2020 at 21:25:29
To blame Carlo is a Joke. For him it is simply a wake up call; That many players at this cub are freeloaders and need to get the f++k out.
Kevin Prytherch
38 Posted 05/01/2020 at 21:25:52
Do we still think Brands is the way forward? Other than Digne and Bernard (who doesn’t really count as he was a free transfer), how many of his signings have actually increased in value?

One third of the inept midfield was his, both full backs, the headless one who cane off the bench and Bernard - who is becoming more and more invisible every time he plays. Granted Mina didn’t do a lot wrong today, but he’s not exactly been a £30million defender. Our best 4 players today (I’m including Walcott for his first half performance) were Holgate (Martinez), Pickford (Walsh), DCL (widely believed to be Rhino) and Walcott (Allardyce).

Tony Abrahams
39 Posted 05/01/2020 at 21:26:54
Hasn’t anyone watched the history of Everton video where the comedian getting interviewed says there are two great teams in Liverpool, Everton and Everton reserves.

Liverpool took our ground, Shankley robbed our jokes, and now there fans are after our soul?

I saw the 1995 banner I heard the song and watching on my telly I was thinking we haven’t won in Europe since they killed 39.

Horrible thoughts for this ultra, politically correct, phoney,
modern world, but don’t let them take our soul, surely we are made of much stronger stuff than a lot of the cowards who don’t give a fuck for our shirt?

Tony Everan
40 Posted 05/01/2020 at 21:27:26
Being an Evertonian is like living a life chained to the stocks, the key thrown away.

It's a ticket to perpetual embarrassment and dismissive mockery.

Today was the latest rotting cabbage to be hurled at our rotten bonce.

We've got too many career footballers at the club, going through the motions and banking the salary. They don't care about Everton too much, its a job. That kind of detached mentality seeps into the squad at all levels. It shows itself for what it is on match days. We are a bunch of players, and not a team.

Nicholas Ryan
41 Posted 05/01/2020 at 21:28:41
That performance, made me think of Mick McArthy, when he was manager of Ipswich. They had put in a dire performance, and afterwards he said:
'All they have to do, is pull on a blue shirt, and pass the ball to another guy in a blue shirt... but none of them can do it'.

…… well, quite!

Paul Jones
42 Posted 05/01/2020 at 21:29:07
Since the start of 2012/13, there have been 17 Merseyside derbies.

Everton have lead for a total of seven minutes.

Tommy Coleman
43 Posted 05/01/2020 at 21:35:05
Schneiderlin in the epitome of the team. Negative back passes, weak, no energy, can't tackle and is so slow that I don't think I've ever seen him sprint.

It really worries me that Carlos put him and Sigs together in the midfield.

Dreadful stuff.

Paul Birmingham
44 Posted 05/01/2020 at 21:35:16
I’ve said plenty about today’s performance on other threads.

A few beers helps sooth the pain but it’s life time pain and embarrassment.

Tony@40, spot on, that’s the way it is as an Evertonian.

It’s like a parable from the Old Testament, but the facts behind the consistent let down, which is EFC, are all true.

And Old Nick rises, and is ascending to greater achievements.

I hope that the board provide Carlo a war chest this summer, as a total overhaul of the squad is needed.

Not many of today’s squad should survive the cull, if and when it comes.

Jason Lloyd
45 Posted 05/01/2020 at 21:35:47
Kevin 38 it's very simple, if you buy players from relegated premier league teams and rejects from top sides you end up with LOSERS man for man.

This is how you get loanees like Sidibe working harder for the shirt than full time contracted players.

Brands is looking increasingly like a phony DoF who buys more duds than winners.

I don't buy that getting a top striker is hard.

Ashamed to say it but a top striker wont touch us with a barge pole, only a mercenary that wants a big payday.

As a club right now we are doomed.

Ray Jacques
47 Posted 05/01/2020 at 21:38:34
How is it down to Ancelotti. Any combination of our first team players should easily beat their youth team.

It is the spineless tossers on the pitch to blame for this.

Senior players such as Coleman, Walcott and Sigurdssen should have been screaming at the players that this was a great chance to beat them, instead they don't lead but hide.

Eric Paul
48 Posted 05/01/2020 at 21:42:16
They will only ever be liverpool fans
We will always be Everton fans, And they know it that’s why they hate us.
Paul Birmingham
49 Posted 05/01/2020 at 21:46:54
Spineless, characterless, leaderless on the pitch, gutless, pathetic excuses for footballers of EFC.

The lack of professionalism and care today, in my view suggests that there’s some thing missing at a Finch Farm. What the hell happened in the second half, ?

No pride and unforgivable today. I hope there’s no, more apologetic remorse stories in the media, from these players.

It won’t wash any more.

Patience is needed but EFC, can’t wait forever.

This defeat today is legend, and increases the pressures on a very daunting job for CA.

Mark Murphy
50 Posted 05/01/2020 at 21:49:17
My son bought us tickets for the Brighton game next week and we’ve got prebooked train tickets.
Any good boozers in the town centre that doesn’t have a telly??
Dave Evans
51 Posted 05/01/2020 at 21:49:41
Eric
I don't give a monkeys f++k what they hate.
I do care that the present team are disconnected with what Everton fans and their team are all about.
Steve Lundberg
52 Posted 05/01/2020 at 22:05:14
Watching that today I was totally shocked. The last couple of weeks I've seen signs of the tide turning. Slowly, but things beginning to change. Individuals looking more confident and composed. Sharper and committing more. But Carlo seriously got it wrong with this one. Wrong players - Wrong shape. A midfield pairing that was never going to work to good effect and with their best days far behind them. Carlo should have seen it clearly for himself now hopefully, and if he's still got it about him he'll steer well clear of trying it again. Tom Davies would have put the shift in required in this game I'm sure and picked up yet another yellow without doubt. He'd have driven with the ball at the rookie back line and linked with DCL effectively fueled with the pride in the shirt he wears.

We mention a lot about playing for the shirt! But very few among the top clubs do so these days. Our shirt represents our history and directly represents those of us who have an immovable passion and love for Everton. Only those who are born into and raised with this club, aside to some very special players who come here and become one of us and embrace the club ( Howard, Bally, Unsy, Sheeds, Sharpy, Duncan, Tim among many others) will truly play for the honour of representing the Everton shirt. As much as we expect it of all of our players it's not the case. They are playing for the benefit of their own career ambitions along with team they are a part of. We need to invest equally in bringing 'our own' through again so that an Everton team has its identity equally as much as it has journeyman outstanding players from around the world.

That lot across the park seem to have got the blueprint!

Brent Stephens
53 Posted 05/01/2020 at 22:06:18
"So early in his reign, this one wasn’t on the manager; this was squarely on a group of players who have largely escaped the worst of the criticism and allowed Marco Silva to carry the can but now have nowhere left to hide. They were handed a route into the fourth round and they bottled it. Put frankly, they were a disgrace to the shirt and the badge".

As brutal and as honest an indictment of the players as I could imagine.

Allan Board
54 Posted 05/01/2020 at 22:08:24
As this is a man's game, supposedly, I will comment in man's terms.
When we were lads growing up, you were judged on your actions and on your loyalty and bravery toward your peers and your own self respect. If you failed to show these, you were ostracised to the extent of becoming irrelevant to your peers and labelled a loser.
There would be no big forgive and forget so you were screwed.
These are the type of losers I saw playing for our club today. In life you must have the 3 D's- desire, discipline and determination to even have half a chance of succeeding.
I did not see anyone in a blue shirt with that today.
I have no respect for anyone who can't show respect to their family, work or performance.
What I saw today were a bunch of expensively assembled, spoilt, childish, disrespectful and work shy men I only have a deep pity for as they are short of moral fibre and heart.
Out muscled by kids, out thought by kids, with not the bravery to run harder, fight more, contest anything and do anything to gain the upper hand.
What I saw today was a team of snowflakes who always melt when the heats on.
They have managed to attain the 3 D's though-unfortunately the 3 know one wants-disrespectful, dire and disloyal.
To question a man's integrity and pride is the ultimate, but tonight I question everyone of theirs.
Good luck Mr Ancelloti, you have been dealt a poisoned hand.
Brent Stephens
55 Posted 05/01/2020 at 22:12:19
I watched our U23s against their U23s at Kirkby not long ago. We lost but it was a far better performance from our U23s than today's lot. Even our Matty Foulds had a better game against their Elliott in that game.
Kase Chow
56 Posted 05/01/2020 at 22:13:25
Eric #48

What an odd and pointless thing to say?

They’re siting there rightfully proud of their 1st and 2nd teams and in shoring here (like many blues) totally ashamed of my lot

In the last 20 years they’ve had players that stand up for the shirt and win trophies. And win REPEATEDLY away at Chelsea & Arsenal & Utd. We don’t (we’ve won once at OT)

Eric. What are you talking about man????

My Liverpool mates don’t hate me - they PITY me!!!

‘It must be awful to support a club that never wins trophies, can’t win away at any decent team and always pee the bed against mighty Liverpool’

You know what? It IS awful. I hate it. My club and it’s wretched players are useless. None of it deserves pride. Only some yesteryear brilliance if you’re old enough to have loved it (I’m 40, in not old enough)

So why why why in gods name would they hate us? We are an irrelevance, nay, an easy 3 points to them. Trust me - they don’t hate us. They love us

Tony Abrahams
57 Posted 05/01/2020 at 22:15:34
I’ve always hated Dominic King, but his assessment is so brutally honest. A man who normally digs out Everton, even when having to write something positive, didn’t need a spade tonight, but there are fucking loads of us that are going to need crash helmets for the next few weeks, and if Carlo, was in his home country right now, I’m sure his club would need extra security on the gates of the training ground, after such a humiliating and shameless display?
Jonathan Tasker
58 Posted 05/01/2020 at 22:16:50
January 5th 2020
Everton obituary. Everton FC died today. The body will be cremated and the ashes taken to Anfield.
Mike Dolan
59 Posted 05/01/2020 at 22:19:35
Wow this is a lynching. We have been handicapped the entire season with injuries to the key component of the team the midfield.
Now we are spineless coward mercenaries who don’t really give a shit if we win or lose. We lost a cup tie 1-0 playing a non league side. Wow that’s never happened before has it. Know your history my arse.
Today was not good but is anyone really surprised that we lost today? Is anyone doubting that in spite of today the future is looking brighter at this moment than it has done for a lot of years.
Paul Birmingham
60 Posted 05/01/2020 at 22:21:00
Today’s shit show, warrants if these players have any ethics on work, and morality of what their contracts for Everton mean?

For me a new captain on the park, some one forcefully, firm but fare and narky, must be planned, as we are rudderless and leaderless on the park.

Scary today as well, as if the s are developing their youngsters on this scale, via home grown and international recruitment, then, it looks like we are deeper in the crap, than we realise, in view of the next 5 years.

Surely soon, Everton’s fortunes will change, for the better?

I hope so, as I’m past the half way house, and in reality, it’s not gonna happen soon, bar a miracle.

John P McFarlane
61 Posted 05/01/2020 at 22:25:37
Mike #59 In what way is the future looking brighter? Is it because Usmanov said he 'might' invest in the club / stadium? Which was timed to perfection seeing as the club are about to post record losses and of course could take some of the heat out of the AGM coming soon. Is it because we have a big-name manager? Is it because we have a plethora of world class talent to come back into the side once they recover from their injuries? Is it because we are well clear of the dreaded drop?

I'm sorry but if you can't see today as being on one of the darkest days in our all-time history never mind recent history then you must have experienced some very dark days indeed.


Brent Stephens
62 Posted 05/01/2020 at 22:25:54
I can understand criticism if we play around at the back and get hit by the high press when playing against a premier league side - but against kids? There's no way playing it out from the back should have been countered by kids.

And when we did go long their kids mopped up there as well.

Kids. Who'd have 'em.

James Byrne
63 Posted 05/01/2020 at 22:29:50
Shocking performance today and another derby that leaves us asking ourselves what the fuck is the point in this club! Any other team going to Anfield for this fixture today such as Palace, Watford, Sheff Utd etc would have won this game comfortably, but not us.

One of the worse things we have ever done is come into money under Moshiri and at the same time keep Kenwright at the club pulling strings. The money the club has spent on sacking managers alone is staggering. How Moshiri is even a "billionaire" with his so called business acumen is a mystery.

Joe McMahon
64 Posted 05/01/2020 at 22:33:06
Mike @59 I also like John can't see what positives there is. You saw their Academy players today, you honestly think David Chumpy Unsworths young starlets are gonna kick Arse? Those Liverpool teenagers are light years ahead, Liverpool FC are going to dominate for years. So yes plenty to be happy about!
Ed Fitzgerald
65 Posted 05/01/2020 at 22:33:12
I’m never ashamed to be an Evertonian but I was disgusted by that performance today. I never want to see Schneiderlin, Sigurdsson or Delph in an Everton shirt again. We would have been been better with Davies and Holgate in midfield at least there would have been some energy.

Ancellotti needs to carry some of the blame for defending so deep and inviting the pressing by the Liverpool team of kids. Worse than the semi final, worse than the 86,89 finals, worse than the 5-0 home defeat in 1980’s. I’ve got to go to work tomorrow and listen to a load of armchair kopites dispense their usual banter.

Apparently he is going to talk to each individual player tomorrow he should invite one of us in with him for some brutal honesty. I hope Usmanov has deep pockets because we need some quality in now. Every time I think we can’t sink any lower this fucking football club breaks my heart. The Samaritans should have a special line just for Blues fans.

Iakovos Iasonidis
66 Posted 05/01/2020 at 22:33:24
I wouldn't change a word. This bunch of losers escaped criticism for far too long. We must get behind the manager now and wish we can afford A LOT of out and ins. More than half of our starting 11 are utter shite and the other half not good enough for starting eleven. To be honest I would only keep pickfort, coleman, davies, holgate, Dcl, kean, digne and bernard for the bench and Richarlison, gomez, for starting 11. All the rest can f... off right now. After the first half I genuine believed we would win this. Our 2nd half display is one of the worst I can remember. Playing against teenagers just make things worse.
David Edwards
67 Posted 05/01/2020 at 22:33:29
I haven't posted for ages. Others have chronicled and commented on our ups and downs much better than I could.

However, I needed to publicly add my support to Lyndon's heartfelt comments and hope those high up in the club can read the shame and embarrassment that second half performance has caused us all in the Everton community. As it was from Lyndon rather than anyone else, I hope it can reach them and make them squirm these next few days.

Disgraceful!

David Thomas
68 Posted 05/01/2020 at 22:34:58
Mike Dolan, I presume you are just on the wind up?
Andrew James
69 Posted 05/01/2020 at 22:43:42
Not quite off Carlo this one.

He played Schneiderlin. Possibly the biggest waste of space I've known in nearly 40 years of supporting the Blues.

Why do all our coaches persist with him? Tom Davies would have given us bite and energy through the middle. Instead the crash test dummy came in and, guess what, another embarrassing defeat came.

At least with Davies we go down fighting rather than this pathetic surrender that Schneiderlin is nearly always culpable for.

Similarly Gylfi. Totally pathetic.

Julian Exshaw
70 Posted 05/01/2020 at 22:43:50
Surely CA with all his experience would know these players well enough, even after just 2 weeks in the job. Surely a member of our coaching staff would have pointed out that those 3 in midfield was a recipe for disaster. The mystery is also what was said at HT to ensure that the following 45 minutes were without doubt the most shameful in recent memory. In other levels of society a full inquiry would be called for. I dare anyone to watch that second half again and tell me what was going on. My only consolation tonight is that I hope this is finally a watershed in the modern era of Everton FC. It can't get worse than what we witnessed today.
Andy McNabb
71 Posted 05/01/2020 at 22:45:36
Here in Australia we have bushfires, some of the scariest creatures in the world and it's difficult to get a decent pork pie. But we also have the opportunity to sleep through dross like that.

Sorry but I will say it again. For all the eyebrow raises and experience winning with the biggest teams in the world, Carlo has never been in a dogfight like this before. I fear he is not the man for this situation. Duncan would simply not have tolerated that performance.

Now I'm off to apologise to my sons for introducing them to Everton. My Kopite brothers have always joked it was a form of child abuse - maybe they have a point.

John P McFarlane
72 Posted 05/01/2020 at 22:45:43
I don't set much store in player ratings but the Echo's list is embarassing for us and hopefully for the players. Some might say the ratings were generous.
Pickford gained a huge 5/10 whilst Siggy scored 2; the rest were either rated 3 or 4.
Jerome Shields
73 Posted 05/01/2020 at 22:46:31
Ancelotti is on a four and half year contract. Progress if any will be slow, with no guarantee of success. Given the legacy he has inherited and his failures tactically today, it is very much up for grabs if he has sufficient cop on, given that the writing was on the wall at Man City regarding his tactics and he failed to see it.

Duncan is probably thinking tonight , 'my hands where tied', because the current Manager won't listen to me, as per usual.

I have no doubt the result would have been different if Duncan had been in charge.

Kunal Desai
74 Posted 05/01/2020 at 22:49:12
AGM next week should be fun. If I were there i'd firing with both barrels numerous questions as to the direction of where this club is actually going. I think the fans really need some transparency here from the likes of Moshiri and not bullshitter Bill who needs complete removal along with his sidekick DBB.
Clearly this board are pulling in different directions and something smells rotten to the core.
Cancel the contracts of the likes of Schneiderlin, Sigurdsson and Walcott. Add the extra millions to the £100 million excess loss already made if it meant not watching those poor excuses of footballers.

Rob Dolby
75 Posted 05/01/2020 at 22:50:02
Ancelotti has to shoulder an equal amount of blame for tonight.

Why introduce that messing around at the back when we can't pass the thing.

Why not go direct to DCL and play to his strengths.

Don't get me wrong the players where pathetic and should shoulder equal blame and be able to take initiative.

Ancelotti will have to learn to play to the players strengths not that they have many.

Get Pickford to smash it up the pitch. Get DCL to win headers. Get Richarleson in the box and tell the others to fight like fuck to get the ball. It's not brain surgery.

Too many shithouses in the squad.

If we don't see a reaction against Brighton we could end up getting dragged back into the relegation battle and this current squad of gobshites don't have any fight in them to get out of it.

Eddie Dunn
76 Posted 05/01/2020 at 22:51:24
A terrible second half. However in the first half the much maligned Walcott burst down the right putting in three wonderful crosses which we didn't score from. The equally malligned Sigurdsson also produced important balls which were not scored from.

We should have converted at least one of our chances, and from the quality of those opportunities, perhaps two or three of them.
If we had then this forum would not be the shitfest I am now witnessing.
You don't take your chances and