Mina joins injury list

Tuesday, 2 June, 2020 70comments  |  Jump to last

Yerry Mina is facing "several weeks" on the sidelines after partially tearing a quad muscle in training.

The Colombian joins Jean-Philippe Gbamin on the new list of injuries that could grow bigger as players work their way back from a three-month hiatus away from action due to the COVID-19 pandemic.

Everton's players have been back at Finch Farm for the past two weeks after Premier League clubs voted to resume training ahead of a projected restart date of 17 June for the 2019-20 season.  


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Dave Abrahams
1 Posted 02/06/2020 at 17:31:14
Any news of injuries at other clubs?
John Raftery
3 Posted 02/06/2020 at 17:47:23
A partial tear, depending on how partial it is, might require two or three weeks recovery time in which case we might see him playing before the end of the season. On the other hand, it might require a much longer recovery period, which would virtually rule him out until the start of the new season, at best.

Mina has been injury-prone since we signed him. It is not a complete surprise he has broken down after three months of inaction.

Bill Gall
4 Posted 02/06/2020 at 18:10:33
What kind of training is going on at Finch Farm? Players have been self-training under directions from the club on their own, come back to Finch Farm, and get injured.

Sounds like they have not been training very hard on their own, and the club are pushing them hard to be fit for the proposed start.

Mike Gaynes
5 Posted 02/06/2020 at 18:14:37
Argggh.
Jay Harris
6 Posted 02/06/2020 at 18:17:56
I think some players stay fitter than others Bill.

As John says, Mina has been prone to injury so it appears he is not that strong for such a big unit and he doesn't keep himself at the peak of fitness.

But as usual, we seem to suffer more injuries than most teams. It's the Everton way.

Ian Bennett
7 Posted 02/06/2020 at 18:22:39
Absolute joke. I have never known a club pick up so many injuries.
Mike Benjamin
8 Posted 02/06/2020 at 18:28:19
So that is 2 players crocked badly within a couple of days of contact training. Surely the players are being worked as though it is pre-season? Let's see what happens in the next couple of weeks.
Jack Convery
9 Posted 02/06/2020 at 18:36:05
Any good news?
Bill Gienapp
10 Posted 02/06/2020 at 18:43:21
In spite of the players saying all the right things in terms of pushing for European football and whatnot, I think we all know in our heart of hearts these last nine matches are likely going to be a shitshow. Let's just do our best to get to the end of the "season" and focus on the future.
Brian Williams
11 Posted 02/06/2020 at 19:13:09
Players from other clubs get injured as well. We just don't hear about them or take much notice.

There's no curse, no conspiracy, it's just hard luck.

Simon Dalzell
12 Posted 02/06/2020 at 19:24:33
Yes, Jack (9),

His other leg is okay.

Dave Southword
13 Posted 02/06/2020 at 19:29:27
Indeed Brian #11. 95% of those who support other clubs would not know we even have Gbamin, never mind that he's injured. I couldn't name a single player from another club who is injured, doesn't mean there aren't any.
Pete Gunby
14 Posted 02/06/2020 at 19:49:41
Very good, Simon.
Rob Halligan
15 Posted 02/06/2020 at 19:51:05
Regarding injured players from other clubs, according to this link, every single club in the Premier League has players out injured. This was updated as of yesterday, so I would say it's pretty much bang up to date, apart from not listing Yerry Mina. According to the table, there are clubs with more injuries than us:

https://www.premierinjuries.com/injury-table.php

Brian Wilkinson
16 Posted 02/06/2020 at 19:59:46
Our luck has gone downhill ever since that bloody Black cat strode onto the pitch.

We did not have much before then but damned if I see that cat within a hundred yards of Goodison.

All tongue-in-cheek, of course.

John McFarlane Snr
17 Posted 02/06/2020 at 19:59:50
Hi Brian [11], I have no doubt that the players of today are fitter than those of earlier eras, but I have to say that I can't remember any player, prior to recent years, suffering injuries in the warm-up. It may seem a bit foolish, but I believe that some players are what I term as 'over-trained'.

Years ago, torn hamstrings were unheard of, which suggests to me that today's training regimes may in some cases be too intense. Just a theory of an old man with no medical or therapeutic experience.

Tony Abrahams
18 Posted 02/06/2020 at 20:03:57
Yes John Mc, it’s all about speed and intensity nowadays, and you just don’t see a slow pitch anywhere, anymore.
Brent Stephens
19 Posted 02/06/2020 at 20:04:58
Rob #15 “According to the table there are clubs with more injuries than us”.

We’re an absolute joke. Typical Everton. Why can’t we have the most injuries?

John McFarlane Snr
20 Posted 02/06/2020 at 20:13:20
Hi Tony [18], first off, I was looking forward to celebrating your dad's 80th in the Excelsior in August, but that seems unlikely now. Of course football is played at a much greater pace today, but don't you think that getting injured during the warm-up suggests that something is not quite right?
Joe McMahon
21 Posted 02/06/2020 at 20:23:27
It's incredible. It's not paranoia, but honestly we do seem to have so many injuries to key players constantly. If LFC had our injury luck they wouldn't be winning so much silverware.

I cannot remember the last time we fielded the first choice 11 for two consecutive matches. Probably the last time was with Dixie playing with a flat cap on.

Andy Crooks
22 Posted 02/06/2020 at 20:26:32
Dave's 80th, John?
Sam Hoare
23 Posted 02/06/2020 at 20:30:14
Not ideal. That leaves us with only Holgate and Keane for a concentrated run of games. What happens if one of those gets injured or suspended?

Branthwaite and Gibson would possibly be the next in but neither of those are Premier League ready from what I've seen.

I wouldn't be surprised to see someone like Schneiderlin drafted in as an emergency centre-back.

Colin Glassar
24 Posted 02/06/2020 at 20:34:04
The Everton sickness strikes again! What the hell goes on in these training sessions? Get the bloody SAS in to toughen them up a bit.
Rob Halligan
25 Posted 02/06/2020 at 20:35:45
Sam, let's hope not, as Schneiderlin has a long-term injury, torn meniscus, with an unknown return date.
John McFarlane Snr
26 Posted 02/06/2020 at 20:39:29
Hi Andy [22], it's sometime in August but I don't expect him to be pleased that I've let the world know, I hope that he catches up with me, but not any time in the near future, and although I'm losing my enthusiasm I would love to be one of the first in the Bramley-Moore Dock stadium.
Pat Kelly
27 Posted 02/06/2020 at 20:53:01
Mina is another sick note. But wasn't he injured when we bought him? Can we only get crocks?

In Brands we trust!

Tony Abrahams
28 Posted 02/06/2020 at 20:56:55
It sounds like your enthusiasm is coming back there John Mc!

Injuries in the warm-up, doesn’t happen often, and I had no idea my dad was going to be 80 in August, so I better start saving up!

Jeff Armstrong
29 Posted 02/06/2020 at 21:34:18
No big loss though is he, he's been average at best when fit and that's about 50% of the time he's been here.

Brands's record is beginning to rival Walsh's for duds once you factor in Delph, Iwobi, Sidibé, Kean, and arguably Gbamin. We've only had Richarlison and Digne (he's been gash all this season too) that Brands has had any modicum of success with!

Kieran Kinsella
30 Posted 02/06/2020 at 21:34:36
John McFarlane,

Didn't Richard Wright get injured in a warm up once by clattering into a hording or a ladder or something suitably comical?

Years ago, we seemed to have less injuries in part because butchers injected pain killers directly into Michael Ball's knee, or because players were expected play with "minor" knocks such as broken toes or groin strains. When someone did get "injured", eg, Bracewell, Snodin etc, they'd be out for a good two years before they returned and some never returned at all, eg, Williamson.

I'd say it's like cars. In the old days, you'd keep an old banger on the road until it rusted to dust. Now, the wifi is patchy and you take it to get repaired. Ditto with players, more injuries because we're actually more focused on their overall health and not just "patch 'em up and send them out".

Dick Fearon
31 Posted 02/06/2020 at 22:11:42
I think Richard Wright was retrieving something from his attic when he fell off the ladder. but wasn't it he who was also injured in a pre-match warm up when tripping over a sign that said no warm up in this area?

Then again, all that could be my memory playing tricks again.

Bobby Mallon
32 Posted 02/06/2020 at 22:14:07
He's another sick note. Why do we always buy injury-prone players for top dollar? I'm at a loss...
Mike Gaynes
33 Posted 02/06/2020 at 22:15:31
Tony #28, you forgot his birthday? Not good. It better be an awesome gift.

Pat and Jeff, Mina hasn't missed a game this season due to injury. Not exactly a sick note.

Sam #23, you've seen Gibson and I haven't, but I think it would be great if he got a chance. And it's not like there's a lot at stake. We're mid-table and that's where we're gonna end up.

Sam Hoare
34 Posted 02/06/2020 at 22:30:16
Mike, he’s no worse than Antolin Alcaraz was! It could be useful for him and Branthwaite to get some minutes but it could also be slightly traumatic given the lack of protection that will be afforded them by our midfield.
John McFarlane Snr
35 Posted 02/06/2020 at 22:34:40
Hi Kieran [30] Richard Wright ignored a notice warning him not to practise in the goalmouth and fell over it, it was a 4th round FA Cup replay against Chelsea in 2006, as Dick rightly points out.
Tom Bowers
36 Posted 02/06/2020 at 23:03:32
So this miserable season continues with the usual disappointing weekly news bulletin. Will it ever end. Can't wait for a new one to start.
Andy McNabb
37 Posted 02/06/2020 at 23:06:01
Is it going to reach the point where we consider news articles which share details about players who are actually fit?

There are still 2 weeks to go. At this rate, I should wait by the phone and make sure my boots are clean.

Justin Doone
38 Posted 02/06/2020 at 23:08:10
Could someone at the club just release a statement along the lines of several players have tested positive for Covid 19 and prevent any further embarrassment and humiliation whilst trying to get the season stopped for good?

Forget reporting injuries, I'm only interested in serious illnesses.

We have nothing to play for other than pride and to be honest I've seen very little evidence of that at Goodison for decades baring Duncan's stint as manager.

It sometimes appears the whole country actually believes what the government tells them despite them not giving a flying numchuck whilst disregarding their own rules when it suits with several poor excuses.

Actually thinking about it, it sounds very much like our own Billy Blue Bullshit has another job.

John Keating
39 Posted 02/06/2020 at 23:09:47
To be honest, we could have a fully fit squad for all the remaining games and I doubt we'd do much. Without a crowd getting them up for it, I very much doubt they could do it themselves.

When I read the Dennis Stevens article and think of those players – my personal favourite period in our history – and look at this shower, apart from young Calvert-Lewin, Holgate and Richarlison, I could cry.

Brian Wilkinson
40 Posted 02/06/2020 at 23:17:50
Dick @31, Wright had just come back from an injury may have been the one, where he fell over the sign in his goalmouth warm-up. He was putting his suitcases away in his loft, and fell off his ladder, landing on his shoulder. I kid you not it was on Friday 13th
Justin Doone
41 Posted 02/06/2020 at 23:24:13
Some players are more lucky than others with injuries but some players are just missing a few sandwiches from the picnic basket.

We have a buffet or two missing from our club.

Graham Williams
42 Posted 02/06/2020 at 23:33:36
If League One carries on playing (decision pending), wouldn't Lewis Gibson still be required by Fleetwood – who methinks have had a very good record since he went there.

Mo Besic could be available - didn't somebody once say he could play centre-back if necessary (possibly Mo himself)?

Brian Wilkinson
43 Posted 02/06/2020 at 23:35:15
Joe @21, come on, mate, our neighbour's goalkeeper got injured just before the season stopped. He's back to full fitness now.

Yeah, you're right, we are cursed with injuries, while our neighbours across the Park very rarely pick up a season-ending injury. Either they are doing something right on the training ground, or, as others might think, they are blessed with the devil.

Brian Wilkinson
44 Posted 02/06/2020 at 00:02:47
If you go back to 1963: Everton Champions, Tony Kay gets banned from Football. 1970: Champions again, following season Labone picks up an injury that ends his career. 1985: Champions again, that season Heath picks up a long-term injury when playing his best football. 1986: nice lead in the league, Southall picks up a season-ending injury – before I get jumped on, yes, Mimms came in and did a job.

1987: Champions again, Mountfield suffers a fit at home, a few weeks later he is let go and Watson comes in.

Then you have Ian Snodin, again picks up a long term injury.

We then win the FA Cup in 1995, Joe Parkinson picks up an injury that eventually ends his career.

Surely that must be it, nope you then have Jagielka just before the 2009 FA Cup Final, followed by Oviedo, James McCarthy, Coleman, Gomes, Bolasie, Gomes... there are others, we never got to really see Bolasie.

But for all the other players, they were players who were on top of their game at the time, and badly missed.

We even had two world wars that brought two Championship winning teams to an end, and yet some say we are not cursed.


Brian Cleveland
45 Posted 02/06/2020 at 00:06:29
Graham #42, yes indeed, Gibson goes back to Fleetwood, think he has already agreed to extending the loan, before Mina got injured. And yes, Besic has been rumoured to play centre-back, but unless he has a Cahill spring he won't even reach the chin of most attackers.

Maybe Rhino still has his boots tucked away somewhere...

Mike Gaynes
46 Posted 03/06/2020 at 00:59:55
Sam #34, no worse than Alcaraz? That might be the grimmest review of a young player I've ever seen (laughing).

Graham #42 and Brian #45, loans can only be extended past the June 30 end date with the agreement of the player and both clubs. That hasn't happened yet with either Gibson or Matthew Pennington at Hull City, who would be a more-than-decent emergency cover in my opinion.

I would point out that. at least for the moment, we do have one more CB on the roster. Cuco Martina is a starter at the position for Curacao (I saw him play superbly during last summer's Gold Cup, his country's best-ever international tournament performance), and he started four times at CB last season for Feyenoord, with a yield of only two goals. His contract runs out at the end of June.

If I were Marcel or Carlo, I'd have Cuco on the bench for the June games and then bring back Pennington on June 30 to provide cover for July.

Steve Barr
47 Posted 03/06/2020 at 01:50:37
Brian #44... then the club bought shares in a boneyard and people stopped dying!
Kieran Kinsella
48 Posted 03/06/2020 at 04:48:08
Dick, John & Brian,

Thanks for the reminders. I knew ladders and signs were somehow involved. “Future England number one” wasn't he? More like the next Frank Spencer.

Alan J Thompson
49 Posted 03/06/2020 at 06:52:20
Being just about 2 weeks until the first game back, why tell the world who won't be playing, or is it just a cunning stunt? And that is not just a typo about the sort of injury.
Phillip Warrington
50 Posted 03/06/2020 at 07:56:02
I don't believe we have continual bad luck when it comes to players we buy, either they have a history of niggling injuries... or we have really shit physios, or crap rehabilitation programs. Because most of the injuries our team get are during training (except for the Gomes and Coleman incidents).
Bob Parrington
51 Posted 03/06/2020 at 09:00:34
Anybody know what kind of turf they train on at Finch Farm?
Ray Roche
52 Posted 03/06/2020 at 09:15:31
Brian @44,

FA Cup Final 2009, Yakubu and Arteta both missing along with Jags. The spine of the team.

Brian Williams
53 Posted 03/06/2020 at 09:19:52
Bob @51.

Yeh, lino!

John Pickles
54 Posted 03/06/2020 at 09:35:38
Everton are the only club whose physio department has a triage area.
Jerome Shields
55 Posted 03/06/2020 at 10:12:39
Everton have been living dangerously for all this season, with a lack of dependent depth in defence. One or two injuries will cause problems, given the age profile and injury record of the defensive squad.

The training and rehabilitation programmes have not got a good record and Mina has never taken his training seriously enough, hence his injury record, when about to be called on after a break in play.

Jim Bennings
56 Posted 03/06/2020 at 10:17:39
No real surprise Mina is goosed again – he's never seemed to be fully fit since we signed him. He comes across when I've seen him play as the type who holds back and often appears to grimace when he's made challenges or exerted energy.

I can't say from a football perspective I'm overjoyed about the prospect of the season resumption in two weeks time because, let's face it, it's the Liverpool show and will be potentially dangerous when they win the league with scores of pissed up blurts hanging off the top of bus stops and the like.

As for Everton, well the Chelsea debacle on March 9th hit home that we still harbour too many weak-spined wimps in the team... and the form all season was pretty shite – let's be truthful.

Maybe a couple of unconvincing wins against Brighton, Palace and Watford but all else was just as per Everton normal over this last five years.

Jerome Shields
57 Posted 03/06/2020 at 10:20:26
Yerry Mina injury Record

18/19 Hamstring Injury Mar 26, 2019 May 12, 2019 47 days 7Everton FC


18/19 Foot Injury Sep 28, 2018 Oct 19, 2018 21 days 3Everton FC

18/19 Foot Injury Jul 30, 2018 Sep 23, 2018 55 days 15FC BarcelonaEverton FC

17/18 Metatarsal Fracture Aug 11, 2017 Oct 20, 2017 70 days 10Sociedade Esportiva Palmeiras

16/17 Hamstring Injury Nov 11, 2016 Dec 5, 2016 24 days 3Sociedade Esportiva Palmeiras

16/17 Hamstring Injury Jul 14, 2016 Aug 21, 2016 38 days 7Sociedade Esportiva Palmeiras<

Brian Harrison
58 Posted 03/06/2020 at 10:28:10
I remember Bob Paisley saying the first thing he checked before signing a player, was how many games he had played in the previous 2 seasons. His rationale was he could be a brilliant player but, if for large sections of the season he was out injured, then he was absolutely no help to the team. Maybe we should adopt the same policy before signing players?
Steve Ferns
59 Posted 03/06/2020 at 11:22:00
Mina is 6’5”. He is bound to get injuries. All players of that height, particularly those built like basketballers rather than wrestlers, seem to have an above average propensity to get injured. His injury record stands up better than Big Dunc’s.
Michael Lynch
60 Posted 03/06/2020 at 11:41:44
Jim @56 - couldn't have put it better myself: "it's the Liverpool show". Every day since the restart was announced, the lead story on the BBC website's football pages has been about The Shite. Either Klopp bollocking on about some bollocks that makes him look like a top fella, or one of the players talking about how fit they are, or some nonsense about them ending racism in the world by posting a photo of themselves kneeling in the centre circle (nobody mention the Suarez scandal of course...)

In fact, the only interesting thing about finishing the Premier League season is the relegation issue. The title race was over months ago, so why are we being force-fed RS stories on a fucking loop?

As for our club, we'll limp to the end of the season in the bottom half of the table after embarrassing ourselves "at home" to the RS.

Fuck me, I hate football.

Brian Williams
61 Posted 03/06/2020 at 11:50:49
Steve @59.

Ah but time's on Mina's side with regard to his injury record vs Ferguson's. ;-)

Jim Bennings
62 Posted 03/06/2020 at 12:21:11
Suppose I would have to agree with you, Michael.

Whilst a small part of me has missed some sides of the football, I haven't missed our piss-weak no-shows against the big boys, I haven't missed the VAR debacle sideshow circus that football has become, and I haven't missed not seeing the Reds win pretty much every game prior to March.

I've been kept quite happy with the reruns of the World Cup matches or the fabulous Euro 96 coverage on ITV4, amazing how simple and so much more enjoyable football was before the stop-start barely any contact sport we watch now.

Tony McNulty
63 Posted 03/06/2020 at 12:38:26
When he was involved with the management of the Irish team, Roy Keane made a comment about Everton.

He was complaining that Everton players always seemed to be unavailable to Ireland owing to injury. He went on to raise a few questions about training methods and intimated that Everton ought to look at this.

At the time, I wondered whether it was nothing more than a petulant sideswipe in the manner of his one-time boss, Ferguson. But it is strange that we do seem to have more than our share of ill-luck with injuries.

Patrick McFarlane
64 Posted 03/06/2020 at 13:11:40
A multi-million pound business is highly unlikely to deliberately pay good money for damaged goods time and time again, but hey ho if only we adopted Bob Paisley's simple adage we wouldn't have to endure any injuries.

It's 2020, guys, not 1975. I tend to believe that the players today are trained to the n-th degree and, similar to race-horses or F1 cars, the slightest fault can lead to other issues.

Please can we stop with the 'only if we had followed the example of our neighbours' [insert topic and name of LFC legend] it's precisely why the Echo can run stories like the link below.

Underdogs

On another note, The Guardian carries a piece about how the English game was changed forever 35 years ago this week.

European Ban


Joe McMahon
65 Posted 03/06/2020 at 13:45:15
Problem is, Patrick, Everton continually disappoint their success starved fans season after season, never once qualifying for the Champions League. We have to sit and watch our neighbours be adored from all over the world for decades. I haven't got the answer, but somehow Everton screwed up big time since 1985, and others haven't.

This is a Premier League club that kept a manager that in 11 years never won once at our neighbours and won diddley squat. It's no wonder we are desperate, is it?

Pat Waine
66 Posted 03/06/2020 at 14:09:28
This guy is beyond a joke. Once I see a player concentrating on his dance routine more than his task on the pitch, I am worried. This looks like yet another mistake by Brands.
Jim Bennings
67 Posted 03/06/2020 at 15:37:17
Joe,

Many mitigating factors on why we have basically been a shit-fest for 30 years more or less.

The European ban did damage the club at a key period but the club never had aspirations of winning things once 1990 came, the mentality has been weak ever since, the only exception was the woefully treated Joe Royle who in one full season with the club finished 6th, signed Andrei Kanchelskis and won the FA Cup.

We've been a glass ceiling club ever since, and that's why our records are so dismal in Cups and against the big teams, its why we can't win a derby, we can't reach the Champions League.

Tony Everan
68 Posted 03/06/2020 at 16:13:36
Maybe we could hire out one of those Nightingale hospitals on the cheap. At this rate of injury, we will need some spare capacity.
Joe McMahon
69 Posted 03/06/2020 at 16:47:10
Jim @ 67, absolutely correct. Heysel did hit us bad, but from 1990 aspirations have been pitiful. I'm 50, and the only highlight (since teenage years) was Joe Royle in 1995 and 96. Limpar and Kanchelskis on the wings and winning with style at Anfield. The FA Cup semi-final v Spurs, wining away at Arsenal – brilliant days! Sadly donkey's years ago.
Eddie Dunn
70 Posted 03/06/2020 at 18:09:54
I imagine that, with the rush to get the season restarted, this injury will be one of many. Players have been keeping "fit" at home and will have had little idea exactly when they needed to step-up their programmes until recently.

I do wonder whether the modern synthetic/mix pitches have a lot to do with the muscle injuries? Is it less forgiving to the joints or tougher to turn on?

I am far from excited at the thought of empty stadiums and neutral venues and I wonder just how inspired a team stranded in mid-table will feel once they drag themselves into action.

If the German restart is anything to go by, we can expect some thrashings, typical preseason friendly fare. I just hope we aren't on the wrong end of them.

Brian Wilkinson
71 Posted 03/06/2020 at 18:16:33
Michael @60, they did do a piece on ourselves and Man City.

They said out of a survey nationwide 76% of Everton fans wanted the season ended but also included a higher figure for City fans wanting the season ended.

If that is not a dig at choosing their neighbours and a team chasing them in the league then I do not know what is.

Finishes by saying 90% of Liverpool fans want the season to continue.

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