With players emerging from a three-month layoff in June following the Covid-19 shutdown and the clubs' remaining games shoe-horned into a compressed six-week schedule, a rule was introduced which would expand the number of permitted subs during matches to five from three.
Initially, the League's members opted to continue with that option for the new season but they voted against it at a meeting today.
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1 Posted 03/09/2020 at 19:29:17
2 Posted 03/09/2020 at 19:36:03
3 Posted 03/09/2020 at 19:43:22
Could have agreed to go back to 3 for next season.
We seem to have this fascination with not meddling with football. I don't understand it.
4 Posted 03/09/2020 at 20:00:21
The top teams wanted five subs, the rest didn't. The reason being that Man City could switch out half their team or even their entire team and bring players with equally ability. Sheffield United or Brighton could not.
So they'd struggle on with a best but tired 11 or bring on fresh but not as good players to battle City's endless supply of fresh quality players. That worry apart, I am against more subs as it is often just another time-wasting device that breaks up the game.
5 Posted 03/09/2020 at 20:35:53
There is a really easy way for it to stop being a time-wasting device. I have absolutely no idea why they do not have the stadium clock stopped at the same points the referee stops their watch. Stop it for injuries, subs, having to stop the game to sort a situation out etc.
I really, really do not understand why they do that. Blow the whistle at 90, everyone knows exactly how long is left, no-one can complain about whether it should have been 3 or 7 minutes added on.
6 Posted 03/09/2020 at 20:40:37
In an ideal world, they could do extra subs as they used to in rugby in the event of an injury. But I think that came to an end when someone put fake blood over his face to get subbed. I see your point and it's a tough call either way.
7 Posted 03/09/2020 at 20:46:35
Dan, I like your idea about the clock stopping so time-wasting through substitutions or whatever is futile. It's a blight on the game and needs stamping out, it would sort it.
8 Posted 03/09/2020 at 20:59:03
Bloodgate was horrendous for rugby; when sport becomes a business, people will cheat to get an advantage sadly.
As I said, I understand the squad depth argument. For me, you can afford muscle injuries less in small or poor squads, as we well know, so, if we can minimise workload, then we should take it.
Interesting as upsides and downsides either way. It would also help our teams playing in Europe, interesting that other European leagues try and help their clubs in those competitions whereas we seem to have the attitude: 'Tough shit, you did well and have to suffer the consequences'.
9 Posted 03/09/2020 at 21:10:37
10 Posted 03/09/2020 at 21:28:47
I would have thought that their season tickets would already have sold out. Their den of iniquity isn't massive.
11 Posted 03/09/2020 at 21:39:53
(I fully expect this post to be removed by the editors.)
12 Posted 03/09/2020 at 21:40:13
13 Posted 03/09/2020 at 21:49:47
14 Posted 03/09/2020 at 21:57:21
15 Posted 03/09/2020 at 22:09:10
However, it had its usefulness and I'm sure the Qatar World Cup will see it reintroduced. I'd have no issue with that either as long as the time keeping is improved around it.
16 Posted 03/09/2020 at 22:27:25
17 Posted 03/09/2020 at 22:32:24
18 Posted 03/09/2020 at 22:57:03
Football is a cut-throat business now. You don't get anywhere by assisting other clubs in becoming ever more strong in their resources.
19 Posted 03/09/2020 at 23:04:21
20 Posted 03/09/2020 at 23:41:09
Also, the time would need to be reduced to about 65 mins of playing time to account for how long the ball is actually in play.
21 Posted 04/09/2020 at 05:32:50
22 Posted 04/09/2020 at 06:50:41
The sub can take as long as he wants to get off. The player can roll around for 5 minutes if he so chooses, pretending to be injured, and it has zero effect on time. Makes no sense to me not to do that. Stops a lot of the gamesmanship straight away.
23 Posted 04/09/2020 at 06:54:32
24 Posted 04/09/2020 at 06:54:36
But it's okay, you have the option of added crowd noise so it's like being there.
Fans back ASAP please, Everton.
25 Posted 04/09/2020 at 07:15:21
The problem with introducing rules to help clubs in Europe is that it further maintains their monopoly on the Champion's League places and stops other teams from breaking the cycle other.
The system is already rigged against anyone being able to break the monopoly on a regular basis because of so-called ‘Financial Fair Play' which in reality is anything but what its name suggests.
Five subs benefits those teams who are in the Champion's League already and can effectively rest their players and keep their bigger squads happier and rotated.
Under the guise of progress, it is in fact perpetuating the status quo.
26 Posted 04/09/2020 at 08:35:32
I do wonder about our training or medical staff and what it is that seems to make us the most injury-prone club out there.
27 Posted 04/09/2020 at 08:36:00
On the plus side for Everton, if we don't manage to shift them, it limits the amount of time we have to see Davies, Delph, Bolasie, Besic, etc etc. I'd imagine Davies will get his loan move because he's gonna need it. He's not gonna play here.
The other 3 plus Sandro and possibly Sigurdsson, Bernard, Walcott and Tosun, I'd be suprised if the majority of them are still here come the close of the transfer window.
28 Posted 04/09/2020 at 09:11:12
I'm sick of seeing two or three subs being made to “run the clock down “ at the end of each game, disrupting the flow and killing the excitement. Apart from killing the game, how does a substitute entering the fray 3 minutes into 4 minutes of added time achieve anything other than that?
And don't get me started on players feigning injury!! Lying there slapping the pitch due to the pain? WTF? Drag the twat off and break both of his legs so he'll know what real pain is like. 😡
29 Posted 04/09/2020 at 14:32:47
This site lists the most expensive bench by each club, and it aligns fairly well with the overall Premier League position. Man City's bench at Aston Villa cost £368 million.
30 Posted 05/09/2020 at 19:10:40
“Yes [Im in favour]. I know the discussion will then go again of whether it is an advantage for the bigger clubs,” he said post-game.
“Look, I dont discuss it from that point of view, I dont want to have an advantage in the competition or whatever. We have 38 Premier League games in a four-week-shorter season, that says it all.
“All the other competitions will be pretty much the same as far as I know, so that means that these things will help.”
32 Posted 05/09/2020 at 20:19:04
I suppose that means that the more ordinary, less well-heeled souls will have to wait a little longer? Who said the Premier League was all about money?
33 Posted 05/09/2020 at 20:29:07
34 Posted 05/09/2020 at 20:41:33
It's possibly that there certainly is more space both inside and outside the ground compared to our Victorian Archibald Leitch cramped seats and pillars.
I personally don't see it about certain clubs, just their stadiums. Had we already been in Kings Dock, we would be joining them.
35 Posted 05/09/2020 at 20:56:12
It will have to be approved by the local authority and or government agencies before any supporters are allowed into any stadium.
36 Posted 09/09/2020 at 19:14:33
No substitutions. Keepers playing with broken necks. Fekin snowflakes...
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