Evertonians await confirmation of Rodriguez move

Sunday, 6 September, 2020 349comments  |  Jump to last

With all indications suggesting the deal has been agreed and his contract has been inked, Everton are expected to imminently unveil James Rodriguez as their latest signing.

Having flown to England on Wednesday and spent the night in London, the 29-year-old flew to Merseyside the following morning and underwent a medical ahead of completing a reported €21m (~£19m) switch from Real Madrid that will likely involve further add-ons based on appearances.

It was hoped that Rodriguez might be revealed in a triple announcement alongside Allan and Abdoulaye Doucouré, either on Friday evening or yesterday, but in the end it was just the Brazilian midfielder whose transfer was confirmed prior to the pre-season friendly with Preston North End.

Doucouré looks set to be announced on Monday after putting pen to paper on a four-year deal but, as Marca ponder, why the wait for confirmation of Rodriguez's transfer, which the Spanish outlet describes as “common knowledge” at this point?

They suggest that, while there were a couple of late wrinkles to iron out with Real which have now been resolved, Everton “seem to building up a crescendo” of anticipation around their marquee acquisition.

In the meantime, the Colombian star's movements have been tracked on social media, with Evertonian sleuth work correctly identifying the floor of the Titanic hotel's gym in one of James's Instagram posts before two separate rumours that he had jumped into a taxi bound for the airport were quashed when he turned up for lunch at San Carlo restaurant on Castle Street one day and then swapped the docks for the Hilton hotel in the city centre the next.

In between, the former Porto and Monaco midfielder dined with Ancelotti and Doucouré at the Titanic and at some point signed a three-year contract that ends his six-year association with Madrid, presumably leaving it up to Everton when to release the news once all the formalities and media preparations are complete.


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Mike Gaynes
1 Posted 06/09/2020 at 07:47:20
I first saw him as a teenager in the U-20 World Cup, and then later that year debut for Colombia's senior side in World Cup qualifiers; I've watched him (irregularly) ever since, and this is a level of talent we have not seen in Blue in a generation.

To be clear, I don't know if James's knee is fully healthy. I don't know what his attitude is like after his career setbacks at Real Madrid and Bayern Munich. I don't know what kind of shape he's in (although his recent Cristiano-like gym photos show a carved physique). I don't know how long it will take for him to fit into the side, the Everton culture, and the Premier League pace.

What I do know is that he is now playing for the manager he loves, in a side that will feature him, and that he is desperate to resurrect his career before Qatar – and that, even at less than his best, he makes us better. Over the past three seasons, even with all the injuries and uncertainty and being in and out of line-ups, Rodriguez has played about 5,000 minutes in 81 games for Madrid and Bayern, compiling 16 goals and 22 assists. That means he has been involved in a goal, either scoring or creating, every 133 minutes, or every game and a half. That is massively better than anyone we have.

And that's been while off-form.

But if Carlo can help him regain his best, or something close to it, look out. He will change the whole world's perceptions of slow, boring Everton. The fans at Goodison, whose butts will be lifted off the seats by his touches. Opposing defenders, who have had little to fear from our attack until now. The supporters and kids, who (as Bobby Mallon posted last week) will be ordering "James" Everton shirts. The world football press, which now has reason to pay more attention to our side of Stanley Park. And Richarlison, who will become a 20-goal scorer with James's slicing passes to put him through on goal.

Finally, there's no downside here. Even if James can't regain his previous heights, he's still gonna score a couple of 25-yard screamers and chip some elegant crosses onto Calvert-Lewin's eager forehead and get roars from the Park End with his one-touch, left-foot magic. And he's costing us a hell of a lot less than some of our previous ill-fated signings.

So relax and enjoy, boys and girls. One way or another, this will be SO much fun.

Stuart Gray
2 Posted 06/09/2020 at 07:48:11
Can't wait for this one. If he can get anywhere near his best, it could be the signing of the summer.

However, of the 3 big signings, I think Doucouré might be the best. I've seen him a few times and he is just what we need, imo.

Fran Mitchell
3 Posted 06/09/2020 at 08:13:32
This type of signing will help Richarlison, as there will be another 'star player' to occupy the opposition's mind.

I expect him to play more as a striker than a midfielder, with Richarlison and Calvert-Lewin (and Kean if he can progress) making a front 3.

It is an exciting signing, and if anyone can't admit that excitement and only 'pragmatism', then you've lost your love for football.

At 29, he is far from the days we signed Eto'o, or even Rooney. And compared to any other signing we've made in the last 30 years, this guy is on another level.

There are reasons he's coming here, let's not be mistaken. But if he can rekindle his magic, then we are in for a treat.

And in terms of pragmatism, there is more chances of a fit and regularly playing James being one of the Premier League's standout performers than there is of us signing an unknown 20-year-old turning out to be the next Cryuff.

Rob Dolby
4 Posted 06/09/2020 at 08:23:12
Mike #1 love your enthusiasm. The lad is a genuine talent.

He has undoubted ability I just hope he still has that fire in his belly.

Will Ancelotti build his team around him or will he fit into a system?

Carlo gave players a chance last season to prove themselves and has not hesitated in addressing our disjointed midfield. Credit where it is due to him, Brands and Moshiri.

Tony Abrahams
5 Posted 06/09/2020 at 08:23:24
Another thing to look at is the game is played differently in England. These foreign players are used to a more thoughtful less physically demanding style of football, and also usually tend to look after themselves a lot better.

The biggest problem is not age – it's adapting – and this is something having more experience should help them with?

Faster football is more exhilarating to play, just as long as they can adapt!

Len Hawkins
6 Posted 06/09/2020 at 08:31:31
As we speak, 5 Royal Trumpeters from The Household Cavalry are on their way to Goodison Park to signal the procession of King Bill and the three Princes into the press conference.

My sauce informs me they are currently at Keele Services having a bit of scran and wagering a couple of bob on Ladbrokes slots.

Keep your eyes peeled for a Dacia Duster with 5 occupants exiting the M62 and calling off at Picton Clock on the way to lay a wreath in memory of the unknown Ostler.

Mike Gaynes
7 Posted 06/09/2020 at 08:41:17
Len, I didn't understand a word of that, but it sounded pretty funny when I read it out loud.
Joe McMahon
8 Posted 06/09/2020 at 08:45:47
Len, that had me in stitches!
Dan Nulty
9 Posted 06/09/2020 at 08:47:43
Len, have you some sort of mystic ketchup?
Chris Mason
10 Posted 06/09/2020 at 08:47:48
What Mike said.
Kim Vivian
11 Posted 06/09/2020 at 08:56:54
Sunday morning laff, Len - best for a while. Nice one.
John Wilson
12 Posted 06/09/2020 at 08:56:59
Say what you want about Moshiri, this that and the other... One thing you cannot say is, even though he doesn't have a Chelsea pit full of money, he clearly loves Everton and has backed us to the hilt (or the Hilton hotel, where Rodriguez is staying).

I had never heard of this wonder-kid – not properly anyway – except for the 2014 World Cup. With the caveat aside that we could remotely as a fan base believe Niasse was good (thou YouTube, thou causeth to sin), just watch YouTube – many YouTubes to see how he pirouettes across the pitch so gracefully. It as though the laws of gravity and the 3-dimensional world does not apply, or his 96 million followers around the world for support on his many social media platforms. Goodison will have seen nothing like it.

Rodriguez – assuming Lyndon et al are right and he is ours – will be our Liverpool version of Messi & Ronaldo rolled into one. He is the type of player who needs the right type of manager, such as Ancelloti for Rodriguez's functionality, maintenance and repairs.

Some of the red lot and mainstream sports media laughed when it was said 'The Ev' could get an Ancelloti type – or Ancelloti himself; laughed even more when we were linked with a Rodriguez type – even the said media then began to denigrate this superstar simply because it was not a signing linked with the Premier League elite.

The red lot not least are no longer laughing. When Gomes was on form working that midfield like a conductor to his Viennese orchestra, that day at Anfield, the same red lot were clearly panicking. Even Klopp ran onto the Anfield pitch after just winning that game like he had won the Premier League already.

Now we have two of these; but I conclude that Rodriguez is not just on another level to Gomes – he is on another trajectory... or in another galaxy.

Chris Williams
13 Posted 06/09/2020 at 08:57:21
Dan, it’s his sauce probably!
Kim Vivian
14 Posted 06/09/2020 at 08:59:43
Hmm... let me get this clear, John — you're pleased, yeah?
Rob Halligan
15 Posted 06/09/2020 at 09:03:48
Mike # 1. That's probably the longest post I've ever seen you submit!!
Pavel Ivanov
16 Posted 06/09/2020 at 09:05:32
Rodriguez, Gomes and Sigurdsson has to be the most handsome midfield on Earth right now.
John Wilson
17 Posted 06/09/2020 at 09:06:13
Ha Kim. I think not just I but even the biggest critiques or born pessimists in TW land will be, to use your adjective, Happy, assuming Rodriguez can find even 20-30% of his previous form. I think age here is irrelevant using Gareth Barry as the more obvious example.
Peter Mills
18 Posted 06/09/2020 at 09:08:30
Michael, I so hope you are correct. Watching our team has been rather painful over recent times, to see someone with exceptional technique would return a little joy to us. Especially if that is provided with a left foot, which somehow always adds a touch of panache to things.

We had a player in the 80s who could do that, fella by the name of Sheedy, you might remember him.

John Wilson
19 Posted 06/09/2020 at 09:11:57
When I read Mike's post, I was missing the Face book esque 'Like' button at least.
Mike Gaynes
20 Posted 06/09/2020 at 09:12:46
Pete and Rob, the last time I was this excited was hangin' out with you guys.

Pavel #16, have you seen the photos of Allan? Might be the best looking of the bunch. Davies definitely appeals to the younger female fans. And my wife thinks Bernard is adorable. So we've definitely upped our game since guys like Beardsley, Jeffers and The Strac were scaring the Goodison pigeons.

Rob Halligan
21 Posted 06/09/2020 at 09:14:38
Mike, you might want to re-phrase that!!
John Wilson
22 Posted 06/09/2020 at 09:15:11
Imagine if we could have our new version of the 80s glory years. Wouldn't that be something. Allan, by the way, bossed the midfield playing for Napoli against the red lot.
Colin Glassar
23 Posted 06/09/2020 at 09:18:53
I can't wait to see his girlfriend sit in the stands next to a gozzy-eyed Bill Kenwright.

Welcome to Goodison, Shannon. Oh, and you James.

John Wilson
24 Posted 06/09/2020 at 09:22:38
I prefer this one-by-one unveiling by Everton as this keeps all days of the weekend interesting. We have already had the intrigue, the plots of Cluedo and the fine Everton detectives. It has made the last few days interesting.
Eddie Dunn
25 Posted 06/09/2020 at 09:22:59
Great stuff, Mike... and Len, hahah!
John Pickles
26 Posted 06/09/2020 at 09:24:43
Poor Peter Beardsley. I remember the joke, when Beardsley came on the TV, Daleks would hide behind the sofa.
John Wilson
27 Posted 06/09/2020 at 09:26:52
Rodriguez, as does Gomes etc already, will even attract many more females around the world to Everton and well as record sales of Everton merchandise – at least football gear – for a guy with 96 million followers taking all his social media into account and the many millions around the world who are not even on social media.
Billy Roberts
28 Posted 06/09/2020 at 09:27:49
Mike @1,

Great post to start the day, it definitely whets the appetite for a player who can be sublime.

Let's hope he adapts and stays free of injury... God knows we deserve some luck with not only signings but horrific or debilitating injuries to so many players.

I just want the kids and the big kids like us to be entertained, just to see a bit (or lots actually) of magic on the pitch.

We need signings like this to keep us relevant to a young fanbase living in the shadow (again) of LFC. Someone for fans to idolise; it is after all why we follow the game – for the entertainment and hopefully the glory.
Len @6, brilliant but you lost me at the Picton clock, mate, I only live about 3 miles away but can't say I know of the Ostler?

Not John Oster then?

Tony Everan
29 Posted 06/09/2020 at 09:30:05
Len, I was doing alright until the ‘tomb of the unknown Ostler', cracked me up for some reason.

I think it is hugely exciting Rodriguez is coming in, he will bring not only his top-class talent but also a different mentality. He knows how good he is and will be a big ingredient towards giving the whole team inspiration a new confidence. A player who can light up a tight dour battle of a game with a goal, assist or even an incisive pass can mean the difference between a draw and a win. With a player like Rodriguez, the battles are always worth fighting.

I don't doubt his commitment as I think he will be happy to have a stability and be playing for his manager that understands him best.

Ultimately, his success will be down to his fitness and luck with injuries. His effectiveness will be down to us converting the chances his inclusion will create. (Top 4 challengers with a lethal finisher like Aubameyang.)

Can we find anything like that level of finishing? Not at the moment, but we have enough to get us really competitive and in the mix for top 6 and a cup.

Finally, it just feels liberating to be ‘back in the game' again. A big thanks to Mr Moshiri for backing the manager and giving us some hope with these 3 signings.

John Wilson
30 Posted 06/09/2020 at 09:30:55
Dare I say it, we could soon be winning derbies at Anfield, not just Goodison.

I still think we need an upgrade on Calvert-Lewin as much as I love what he offers, we need a clinical finisher in front of goal. He is far better than Championship; he should not be a starting 11 if we want to reach the heights.

Rob Halligan
31 Posted 06/09/2020 at 09:34:45
Billy, I'm about the same distance as you from Picton clock, but like you have never heard of an Ostler. The meaning of an Ostler is as follows

"A man employed to look after the horses of people staying at an inn"

Wreaths are laid around Picton clock every Remembrance Day, so maybe Len knows something we don't?

John Wilson
32 Posted 06/09/2020 at 09:55:34
If Moise finds his shooting boots, top 6 for Everton with that new midfield is no longer the running joke. Top 4 is possible but let's not get too unrealistic.
Rob Halligan
33 Posted 06/09/2020 at 10:02:11
Amongst all the excitement of the potential Rodriguez signing, it's the draw for the second and third rounds of the Carabao Cup today, around 1:30pm. We are ball number 8 in the northern section.
Billy Roberts
34 Posted 06/09/2020 at 10:02:31
Rob @31,

Thanks for the info, good old TW, even amongst what seems like Sunday morning hangover ramblings we learn something new!!

Len was not on the "sauce", Dan @9 (very good) after all!!

I hope this all translates for our overseas blues. Did the Ostler shout "Eh mister, mind ye horse for a... erm, thripenny bit???

Peter Warren
35 Posted 06/09/2020 at 10:06:36
Very exciting singing. Mr Ancelotti clearly wants both Allan and Rodriguez and I would like to think he is a quite brilliant judge.

I ave not seen Rodriguez play since the World Cup 6 years ago but reading posts like Mike's is fantastic and we all hope we have a genuine superstar, that would be brill!

Rob Halligan
36 Posted 06/09/2020 at 10:06:50
Billy, it's funny cos the other day I saw a horse standing on four bricks, a leg on each brick, with its hooves missing!!
Billy Roberts
37 Posted 06/09/2020 at 10:12:52
Rob @36,

That's what happens when you don't pay the Ostler!!

Christy Ring
38 Posted 06/09/2020 at 10:19:13
Paper rumours that Burnley want Delph, hope it's true, and that he doesn't have to have a medical.
Neil Copeland
39 Posted 06/09/2020 at 10:27:11
I just hope James hasn't found the Arteta money down the back of Bill's couch and done one.
John Wilson
40 Posted 06/09/2020 at 10:31:21
Watch James in action over his career. Copy and paste this into YouTube and the first link is very good:

James Rodriguez best skills and goals

Can't get the link in my phone for some reason.

Pat Kelly
41 Posted 06/09/2020 at 10:43:21
Christy #38, on Burnley's reported interested in Delph, apparently it's all done bar the fee. Everton have offered them £5M but Burnley are holding out for more.
Len Hawkins
42 Posted 06/09/2020 at 10:47:08
Ha Ha, thanks, guys – the clue about the Ostler is in Household Cavalry – someone who looks after horses.

It's just my way of having a bit of a laugh – my days as my wife's carer aren't very amusing. But hopefully these three amigos may give me something to get excited about for a change.

Oh, just remembered – the Arteta money... Bill was casting for Fagin in Oliver Twist and Wenger picked his pocket while he was saying a teary farewell to Mickel... no Arsene about with him.

John Wilson
43 Posted 06/09/2020 at 10:54:20
Here's the link for James in action here, now enjoy:


John Wilson
44 Posted 06/09/2020 at 10:56:15
Ha ha, Pat.
Neil Copeland
45 Posted 06/09/2020 at 10:58:42
Len #42, sorry to hear about your wife – keep smiling, your earlier post was a cracker.

Oh and thanks for clarifying the Arteta money fiasco, optimism has returned that James has not done one after all.

Alex Gray
47 Posted 06/09/2020 at 11:00:54
Can’t agree more with Mike’s first post. Very excited for all three signings.
Dave Abrahams
48 Posted 06/09/2020 at 11:06:27
Len (42), well in there, mate, you not only cheered yourself up but plenty of us on here this morning. The best way to start the day is with a good laugh, thanks Len.
Billy Roberts
49 Posted 06/09/2020 at 11:13:29
Len @42,

I know that's going to pop up in a pub quiz one day!!

Let's hope that all 3 signings give Evertonians something to smile about eh, fingers crossed.

Kev Gibbs
50 Posted 06/09/2020 at 11:32:09
Great first post, Mike, helped me get over my recent dose of Everton cynicism, as did Len.

"Laugh out loud, snorted my coffee out my nose" post goes to Pat. Great stuff and probably true. Thanks, lads.

James Marshall
51 Posted 06/09/2020 at 11:36:39
If anyone is feeling twitchy with the rumours of him leaving town (spread by RS I imagine), there is this morning a photo of him signing an Everton shirt for someone in town – that alone would seem highly unlikely anything other than him signing for us is imminent.

Most outlets claim it's already done anyway.

Santa Krsh
52 Posted 06/09/2020 at 12:01:08
Just read in the Mail, Eriksen is available for £35 Million. I am sure Mr Brands would bring it down closer to £20M.

A year younger than James, not injury prone, knows the league, can equally supply the kind of worldie crosses and passes into the path of Calvert-Lewin & Richarlison. Just wish one more time, the Gunners steal James under our noses and we end up getting Eriksen!!!! Wishful thinking...

Christy Ring
53 Posted 06/09/2020 at 12:19:27
Pat #41, Nice one.
Jimmy Hogan
54 Posted 06/09/2020 at 12:25:01
Just waiting for him to complete The Magical Mystery tour bus ride and a quick visit to The Beatles Museum, then we can announce him.
Jamie Crowley
55 Posted 06/09/2020 at 12:38:01
This kid is filthy sick. He'll cause opposition defenders at least 5-6 broken ankles this upcoming season.

I am genuinely concerned about his health I have to say. He's very often injured. I'm praying he stays healthy.

I can't wait for the season to start now. I'm also praying the CV19 numbers are such that the crowds are allowed to return in full by Boxing Day, there or thereabouts. Time will tell on that, but I really, really miss seeing the crowds and the players reacting to the "will" of the fans.

Short break, three new midfielders of quality, green light, GO!

Tommy Carter
56 Posted 06/09/2020 at 12:43:55

Eriksen is indeed a fine player.

But James is a complete step above Eriksen. When fit and firing. He's a world class performer.

Eriksen, for all his quality, spent a long time at Spurs failing to impact the big and decisive games.

James showed that the big stage his for him. The ultimate stage, spearheading his country at a World Cup.

Michael Kenrick
57 Posted 06/09/2020 at 12:49:10
That was the 2014 World Cup, right, Tommy?

Simple question: What did he do at the 2018 World Cup?

Christy Ring
58 Posted 06/09/2020 at 12:53:05
Tommy #56, I agree completely, and Eriksen went to Inter for a final pay day. Also at Spurs, involved in a big fall out.
Jim Bennings
59 Posted 06/09/2020 at 12:57:56
My one hope is that these new signings actually stay fit at least for the first months of the season.

How frustrating when you sign a new player (Gbamin) and almost the same month he's got a horrible long-term injury.

If we can keep Allan, James and Doucouré on the pitch, then instantly that area becomes so much more combative for this club.

Last season's meek surrender jobs need to be far far less and more identity needs to be shown and character from Everton this time around.

Jamie Crowley
60 Posted 06/09/2020 at 13:03:50
Comparing Eriksen and James is like driving a Pinto and a Mercedes.

As long as the Mercedes doesn't break down.

Geoff Lambert
62 Posted 06/09/2020 at 13:22:39
Joe Corgan
63 Posted 06/09/2020 at 13:22:58
This whole situation with the three signings brings to mind a quote from the Simpsons:

“When are they going to get to the fireworks factory?!?”

Will Mabon
64 Posted 06/09/2020 at 13:26:14
Ford Pinto.
Jamie Crowley
65 Posted 06/09/2020 at 13:27:33
Ford Pinto. Will speaks 'Merican.
Geoff Lambert
66 Posted 06/09/2020 at 13:29:08
Fiat Punto over here... haha.
Karl Meighan
67 Posted 06/09/2020 at 13:31:56
Surely it's about time our new signings came off and gave us fans more than a glimpse of the talent they have.

Allan and Doucouré doing the graft with Rodriguez firing in many, like the goal he got v Uruguay at the World Cup. It's good to be excited for The Toffees again.

Julian Wait
68 Posted 06/09/2020 at 13:35:46
I live in Austin Texas, with quite a few South American and in particular Colombian friends. James is unquestionably a star and this will elevate Everton in the minds of South Americans, also raising awareness of Ancellotti at Everton (which kind of slipped under the radar given the timing).

We tried to sign James back in 2010-11 by some accounts, but lack of international experience made him ineligible.

We finally have our man.

Steven Astley
69 Posted 06/09/2020 at 13:37:50
You do get the feeling don't you that these transfers are done and dusted and have been for days, and it's just some fannys at the club that love the 'Theatre' of it all regarding transfers that delay things.

What makes me laugh is all this hysteria over these 3 signings when one we've already made weeks ago looks set to steal the limelight this coming season: Nkounkou.

Paul Hewitt
70 Posted 06/09/2020 at 13:39:08
I keep hearing that both Doucoure and Rodriguez have signed. So what's the hold up?
Rod Harrington
71 Posted 06/09/2020 at 13:41:44
I don't think Rodriguez is the player we need at all. £21M for someone who started a handful of games in the past 2 years, in the last year of his contract, doesn't inspire me at all.

Allan seems to tick a lot of the boxes in what we are missing. Fingers crossed on him.

To me, getting Doucouré onboard is critical, and he is the one I'm most optimistic about. He knows the demands of the Premier League; with the right-coaching, he could be great for us.

Will Mabon
72 Posted 06/09/2020 at 13:42:32
Jamie, I used to drive one for a time.

Nowadays, I'd have one over a Mercedes.

Santa Krsh
73 Posted 06/09/2020 at 13:43:14
@56 @58 @60

Everyone knows James is step above Eriksen. But I'm just genuinely concerned if our terrible luck with injuries continues to haunt us. The last thing we need is another so-called "Star" made of glass, plundering our club of £100k per week for next 3 years.

Already, Holgate has inaugurated the list for the season. Branthwaite also supposedly carrying a knock... I don't know why this happens only to us!!! Hopefully they don't become another McCarthy... perennially injured!!

This is the only reason why I prefer Eriksen to James!!

ps: I'm also hearing Mount is unhappy at the arrival of Havertz. Why not make a cheeky bid for a season-long loan?

Come on you Gunners... Please help us one more time.

John Wilson
74 Posted 06/09/2020 at 13:51:42
'Imminent' means "about to happen."

These signings have been imminent for a few days. 'Immediate' means straight away. 'About to happen' is probably the wrong word to use unless the signings happen relatively quick.

Tommy Carter
75 Posted 06/09/2020 at 13:52:48
@ 57 he was hardly fit for the tournament. Despite this. He was outstanding against a very good Poland team.

This is a World Cup golden boot winner. With the odd exception, the golden boot winner tends to be a very good player.

Plus his wonder goal in 2014 is possibly one of the greatest I have ever seen.

Alan Johnson
76 Posted 06/09/2020 at 13:57:15
Niels Nkounkou looks the real deal. Well done Marcel Brands.
Will Mabon
77 Posted 06/09/2020 at 14:03:37
John - hopefully, they're incipient.
Brian Williams
78 Posted 06/09/2020 at 14:03:48
Come on you Gunners... Please help us one more time..

Chelsea perhaps?

Will Mabon
79 Posted 06/09/2020 at 14:05:47
Alan, first signs suggest we might've dropped on one with Nkounkou. Early days yet...
Steve Greir
80 Posted 06/09/2020 at 14:30:03
Steve (69), last thing I want to do is piss on anyone's chips, but I said on another thread, that if we could only have 2-from-3, I'd've parked James Rodriguez. So saying, while I am truly excited that the man might actually end up wearing the jersey, I'm more juiced at what the future holds for us with Nkounkou as part of it!

UTFT, and then some!

Soren Moyer
81 Posted 06/09/2020 at 14:32:41
Is it fair to say he will get his own locker when he is signed then?
Santa Krsh
82 Posted 06/09/2020 at 14:41:57
@Brian 78,

I meant Gunners could help us by stealing James from right under our noses, à la Lucas Perez, Sead Kolasinac, Gabriel etc etc... so that we can move for Eriksen or Mount!!!

John Wilson
83 Posted 06/09/2020 at 15:00:47
The live forum is open under our first signing, left-back.
David Pearl
84 Posted 06/09/2020 at 15:08:45
Obviously the media guy is still working on the animation. He is well worth the gamble.

However, l'm thinking Doucouré will be our most influential signing with his Premier League experience. It took Ancelotti to come in, shake Brands and say we need players that can make an immediate impact. Could be another 3 years before Kean is even close.

James Newcombe
85 Posted 06/09/2020 at 15:30:46
When this story first broke, I wasn’t convinced it was a great idea... Now I’m really really hoping it comes off. We can always use some more star quality!
Tony Hill
86 Posted 06/09/2020 at 15:50:31
I like Nkounkou and think he's going to be a fine, fearless player for us. But he's some way off at the moment. Digne is a better player, as you would expect.

We will have the other players confirmed along with Allan and the three of them will be formidable. I understand Santa's view but don't agree with it.

We should expect success, not start analysing why they might fail. That mentality has poisoned us for far too long.

I also express my opinion that Kean is going to emerge significantly for us. People whose views I respect think otherwise, but I believe this young man has a lot of talent and I think Ancelotti believes so too.

John @74, Will @77, make me happy. Imagine any RS site, or any other site in the world, having that sort of exchange.

Charles Towers
87 Posted 06/09/2020 at 16:00:06
With Walcott and Bernard on the wings, we are missing a winger, Iwobi in my view ain't a winger; he is at best a sided midfielder in a 4-4-2. We need a winger who scores goals, and makes a good bunch of assists, and that! that! would be a welcome addition.

Also there's a need for a fast centre-back to cope with opposition playing the ball in our backs.

If we get two quality players to fill those needs, at the level of current expected signings, get a decent season out of Pickford and James, I honestly think Champions League qualification is possible.

Danny O’Neill
88 Posted 06/09/2020 at 16:07:01
It's not shaping up for 4-4-2 Charles. It will likely be 4-3-3 with an option for 4-2-3-1.

Back 4 with Allan, Gomes and Doucouré in front (not forgetting we also have Gbamin). Richarlison & Rodriguez ahead of them in roaming roles with either Calvert-Lewin or Kean as point man of the front 3.

Len Hawkins
89 Posted 06/09/2020 at 16:07:17
Just a bit of optimism about James Rodriguez and past injuries. Anyway he came into the first team as a youngster but suffered injury after injury and everyone wrote him off.

He has been back playing now for a few years and he turned 30 on Friday and he played a blinder. His name is Johnny Lomax and he is a stand-out player.

Don't forget, our bodies are still developing in our late teens and early twenties and some are still developing later than that so cut Rodriguez some slack. The past is the past – just back him to reproduce like Reidy and Andy Gray, two cripples who were half-decent in their dotage.

Brian Wilkinson
90 Posted 06/09/2020 at 16:09:57
When you look at Branthwaite, Gibson, Mina, Nkounkou, Holgate, Kenny, then add Kean, Digne and Coleman to the mix, we are looking a lot more promising than a few years back when we had Martina as left-back, and Ashley Williams as our so-called 'rock' as centre-back.

We are progressing nicely, midfield and attack hopefully sorted with our new recruits.

We expect a few windows before Carlo can readdress every position but, for his first bit of business, we are already looking so much stronger than a few seasons ago.

Bill Gall
91 Posted 06/09/2020 at 16:22:42
You think the club would have been well prepared for an announcement for a new player, so what's the delay?

Kick-off seven days away. Let's see the photos of two new players in an Everton shirt.

Charles Towers
92 Posted 06/09/2020 at 16:25:50
Danny @88,

4-3-3 ain't suited for James. Real Madrid played that and he was out most of the time. Those 3 upfront have to be forwards, and he is an attacking midfielder. Just look at the front 3 at Arsenal: Pepe, Aubameyang, Lacazette, look at the 3 from... you know there are no attacking midfielders there.

He can (and should) play in a 4-2-3-1, I think, because of his injury record, he will not be a starter with Carlo. But I also believe he will be Carlo's go-to man in a Plan B (4-2-3-1), so Carlo will be very aware when picking him.

But that's just my opinion, or what I would do; we will have to see... maybe Professor Ancelotti can shoehorn him in a 4-3-3, playing deeper, to use his vision and cherry-pick passing to open up the opposition. We will have to wait and see.

Tony Hill
93 Posted 06/09/2020 at 16:26:30
Tomorrow, Bill, I assume. Otherwise, we will have reason to worry.
Danny O’Neill
94 Posted 06/09/2020 at 16:36:54
4-2-3-1 works with those players too, Charles. I think Gomes & Allan (or Gbamin) become your 2 with Doucouré moving further forward. In honesty most teams now tend to flex formation depending on whether they are attacking or defending. Not quite NFL style offence / defence, but similar parallels.

Even if it goes 4-3-3, I see a very loose front 3 of James, Richarlison and Calvert-Lewin or Kean. Clearly the latter will be more point man with the other 2 confusing the hell out of the opposition defence.

Rob Young
95 Posted 06/09/2020 at 16:41:39
Surely we'd want them on the training pitch asap, so I don't believe the club are letting anyone wait for no reason.
Mike Gaynes
96 Posted 06/09/2020 at 16:45:39
Len #42, to be doing what you're doing every day and still be able to entertain (and/or bewilder) the rest of us is wonderful. Highest respects, sir.

Tommy #56, spot on.

Michael #57, he was MotM in a dominating 3-0 win over a tough, physical Polish side, assisting on two of the goals (Yerry scored in that game). Then unfortunately in the next game he aggravated a calf injury he had first suffered in pre-tournament training, and came off in the first half. So, fortunately for England, he was unable to play in the round of 16 game when Yerry's goal took it to pens.

Jamie #60, Pintos catch fire. Eriksen hasn't done that in a while.

Karl #67, there will be goals, yes, but it's the assists you should be waiting for. Once Calvert-Lewin and Richarlison adjust to him, it's gonna feel like Christmas every day to them.

David #84, at least initially I'd say you're right about Doucouré. The adjustment curve for Allan and especially James could be a long one.

Julian #68, didn't know you lived there. Great info. The Mexicans here feel exactly the same way. James is pretty much a Latin American legend.

Brian #90, I remember that line-up. It gave me stomach cramps.

Pat #41, if I send you some cash in the mail, will you pass it on to Burnley to help the effort?

Steve Shave
97 Posted 06/09/2020 at 16:47:14
Charles 92,

Rodriguez can play right side of a front three and drift in behind, looking for through balls on his left boot. Granted he won't be getting chalk on his boots anytime soon, perhaps Richarlison will be asked to play on the left with more width looking to cut in as well.

If I were Calvert-Lewin and Kean I would be licking my lips right now. (Cue inevitable comments that Calvert-Lewin will need it because of how many chances he needs to score etc... yawn.)

Charles Towers
98 Posted 06/09/2020 at 16:52:17
I can see why you stick with James, and it's nice to have a real footie chat for once. Your 4-3-3 does sound a lot similar with the best 4-3-3 I ever saw, Capello's Real Madrid team with Suker, Mijatovic and Raul.

If you are old enough, you should remember Redondo, Karembeau and Seedorf in midfield, Panuci, Roberto Carlos, Hierro and Sanchis and the goalie was a German chap called Illgner. Awesome team that has been replicated time and time again over the years.

It really amazes me how some managers just copy & paste and make former tactics and formations of their own and steal a living out of it.

Charles Towers
99 Posted 06/09/2020 at 17:02:45

If James pulls deep out of the 3 we would only have 2 passing options. All can be a nail on the ground, and the 3 opposition players, centre-backs and defensive midfielder will chew him up, and with the right-back marking Richarlison, we would struggle.

Coleman can't run that deep to chip the crosses; Kenny can but not too sure he would deliver consistently good crosses. James marked by another central midfielder and the opposition would have it sorted out, if Richarlison goes right is the same with their left-back.

Numbers do matter.

Robert Tressell
100 Posted 06/09/2020 at 17:03:42
To me, it looks like we'll see a very fluid midfield and attack which switches between 4-4-2, 4-2-3-1 and 4-3-3. Sometimes with the same personnel but operating in different areas – sometimes by making use of a decently deep squad.
Steve Carse
101 Posted 06/09/2020 at 17:10:51
John (26), Peter Beardsley was acutely aware of being short on the looks front. Apparently, in a pre-season training session at Newcastle, when the manager announced he was going to get some new faces in, Beardsley asked whether he could have one.
Charles Towers
102 Posted 06/09/2020 at 17:11:51
I think you have it right Robert, but we need another winger or forward to play 4-3-3 imo.

Someone in the mould of Sarr or Boga, who offer a goal threat, pace and assists.

That would make the team work better, in a 4-3-3 formation, but I agree with you.

Clive Rogers
103 Posted 06/09/2020 at 17:16:54
Rod, #71, Rodriguez has played 42 games in the last 2 seasons, not too bad really. Not as bad as Delph.
Jay Harris
104 Posted 06/09/2020 at 17:18:34
I believe the delay in the announcement was caused by EvertonTV.

They were supposed to broadcast on Friday but couldn't get it going until the second half of the Preston game and even then they had persistent sound problems.

They're still trying to dig Logie Baird up so he can fix it for them.

Mike Gaynes
105 Posted 06/09/2020 at 17:24:12
Steve #101, that made me laugh out loud.

Personally, I think both Jeffers and the Strac made Beardsley look like Hugh Grant. With those ears Franny looked like a cab going down the street with its doors open. And the Strac... geez. We all loved the guy, but he had clearly not quite completed the transition from whatever he was in his previous life.

John Wilson
107 Posted 06/09/2020 at 17:46:43
Or it could be the dyslexics that have to be employed under the Equality Act are still trying to spell James's second name...
Danny O’Neill
108 Posted 06/09/2020 at 17:50:41
Don't know about his second name, John, but on other posts, people have been spelling his first name with the English phonetic pronunciation "Hamez".

Small OCD linguistic point: it's James, pronounced 'Hamez' but spelt James.

Steve Brown
109 Posted 06/09/2020 at 17:59:16
Julian @ 68, James has 46 million followers on instagram and 18 million on twitter. He's a popular lad!

Everton have got a few less – 2 millon on twitter and 1.7 million on instagram. Hopefully, he'll boost the marketing revenue.

Ray Roche
110 Posted 06/09/2020 at 18:01:44
John @107

My Dad was dyslexic. If he heard us swearing he’d wash our mouths out with soup.

Patrick McFarlane
111 Posted 06/09/2020 at 18:29:36
Danny #108,

I propose we call him Jimmy – or should that be 'Himmy'? – as long as we're not calling him 'Championship at best' after a few games... that's if he actually signs for Everton like.

John Wilson
112 Posted 06/09/2020 at 18:32:31
Think we should call him, 'Sign, god damn it!'
Tommy Carter
113 Posted 06/09/2020 at 18:38:05

Probably be getting booed once the fans are back in the stadium.

Doesn't work hard enough. Doesn't look like he loves the club enough.

Probably like Rom when he was putting 25 a season away for us.

Jamie Crowley
114 Posted 06/09/2020 at 18:41:11
Ray @ 110 -

Read that one out loud to my wife. Too good.

Steve Shave
115 Posted 06/09/2020 at 18:42:35

I also agree with Rob's assessment, if we are for sure purchasing said three midfielders, it would appear we will be adopting a variety of Rob's mentioned formations, somewhat negating such an urgent need for a right-midfielder.

You are right also in that, if James cuts in to find space behind the strikers, we will need pace and strength from an extremely fit right-back, that is why I believe we will not sign a winger but will instead spend the money there.

Of course, that will likely be determined by us getting a decent offer for either Seamus or Kenny.

Geoff Lambert
116 Posted 06/09/2020 at 18:46:37
I wish someone would bloody call him. I'm getting fed up checking every 15 minutes,
Julian Wait
117 Posted 06/09/2020 at 18:48:47
I was with one my Colombian friends last night out at Lake Travis (it was in the news yesterday as well. and no, we were not part of the boat parade).

When I asked her who we were probably signing, she jokingly said Messi. I said no, better! Then she guessed James. And she confirmed the pronunciation is 'ham-ezz'.

Kim Vivian
118 Posted 06/09/2020 at 18:50:47
Oh my – John W's on form. Just catching up here...oh me ribs!

And Ray's finished me off.

Peter Gorman
119 Posted 06/09/2020 at 18:51:53
Julian – it is fair to say we will be THE team of Colombia from now on. They obsess over the career of James; last time I was there, they were die-hard Bayern fans.
Kim Vivian
120 Posted 06/09/2020 at 18:57:27
And then there was the lad who walked into the rear of a dyslexics seminar with a deer under his arm. The lecture told everyone to be calm because there was a guy with a gnu in the building.
Will Mabon
121 Posted 06/09/2020 at 19:00:09
You guys will get in trouble with the DNA.
Geoff Lambert
122 Posted 06/09/2020 at 19:04:56
When I got diagnosed with dyslexia...

I couldn't believe my arse.

Rod Harrington
123 Posted 06/09/2020 at 19:18:34
#103 Hi Clive,

Only 8 last season for Real Madrid and 20 for Bayern Munich the year before. And most of those were not starting. Pedantics I know, but I wouldn't be sorry if we don't get him.

Colin Glassar
124 Posted 06/09/2020 at 19:38:53
I'm also dis... shit, I can't even spell it!
Alan McGuffog
125 Posted 06/09/2020 at 19:39:41
Not forgetting the dyslexic, agnostic insomniac who lay awake at nights wondering if there was a dog.
Paul Johnson
126 Posted 06/09/2020 at 19:41:49
Just watched John Wilson's YouTube link. Surely anyone bought up with the School of Science mantra can appreciate what a fantastic footballer James is. I want some.
Mike Gaynes
127 Posted 06/09/2020 at 20:00:49
Alan, I like that one the best of all!
Danny O’Neill
128 Posted 06/09/2020 at 20:01:11
I like Himmy Patrick!!
Sean Kelly
129 Posted 06/09/2020 at 20:01:35
What's holding this up? Is Bill up to his old tricks looking for the ring-fenced Arteta money?
Ray Roche
130 Posted 06/09/2020 at 20:09:43
Geoff, Alan, effin priceless!
Steve Greir
131 Posted 06/09/2020 at 20:26:56
Will @121: Subtle Bud, subtle. Nice one!
Charles Towers
132 Posted 06/09/2020 at 20:34:57
Steve @115,

I understand your point for a flying right-back, but I would argue "my winger" would hold the full-back, with Richarlison on the left, and Calvert-Lewin in the middle, the opposition would hold their lines deep.

We would start defending in the opposition box, only by having players there.

Tommy Carter
134 Posted 06/09/2020 at 20:44:37

Come on. It's strange that some people with such an interest in football really know so little about it.

James is word class. He is at an age that, if he can stay fit, he will be a world-class performer.

Lineker and Alan Ball are probably the last 2 world-class players we had at our club.

The opportunity to get hold of a player like this does not arise often.

Dermot O'Brien
135 Posted 06/09/2020 at 20:45:06
Julian @125, that guy was also a pimp who opened up a warehouse.
Peter Hopkins
136 Posted 06/09/2020 at 20:45:20
On a separate topic, Newcastle seem to be doing some good business. Are Fraser and Wilson players we should have been in for??
Peter Hopkins
137 Posted 06/09/2020 at 20:47:00
And Fulham have just loaned out Alfie Mawson... anyone remember hi? I'm sure he was hailed as a future England star and that we were once linked with him.
Bill Gienapp
138 Posted 06/09/2020 at 21:07:09
Peter (136) - a lot of people dismissed Fraser when we were linked to him earlier this summer, but I think the squad could only benefit from having a reliable, hard-nosed grafter like that.

I mean, I wouldn't be excited if he was presented as our marquee signing (à la Tom Cleverley), but as one piece of the transfer window's overall equation, sure.

Peter Hopkins
139 Posted 06/09/2020 at 21:27:21
Bill, I agree, I think he would have been a useful addition but only if we had got rid of some first; the squad is too bloated.
Ray Said
140 Posted 06/09/2020 at 21:30:37
Tommy (134),

Surely Southall was world class in any era?

Tommy Carter
141 Posted 06/09/2020 at 21:34:14

Ray. My mistake. Of course he was.

Ball, Southall, Lineker.

Bobby Mallon
142 Posted 06/09/2020 at 21:42:26
😂😂😂😂 Geoff @122 – brilliant!
Brian Williams
143 Posted 06/09/2020 at 21:53:36
Rooney was world class, although most of his career was at Man Utd.
Si Pulford
144 Posted 06/09/2020 at 21:59:49
Lukaku is world class. As someone else posted, even when he was slotting 25 a season for us, it wasn't enough for some. Absolutely brilliant player, his goal record is up there with the very best of the best.
Geoff Lambert
145 Posted 06/09/2020 at 22:00:29
Andrei Kanchelskis wasn't far off being world class either.
Danny O’Neill
146 Posted 06/09/2020 at 22:02:36
Kevin Sheedy and Peter Reid.
Geoff Lambert
147 Posted 06/09/2020 at 22:04:15
Don't forget the past-their-sell-by-date ones.

Samuel Eto'o and Gazza. Both true blue leg ends.

Geoff Lambert
148 Posted 06/09/2020 at 22:06:46
Si! He can't trap a bag of sand and all his goals are lucky tap ins.
Joe McMahon
150 Posted 06/09/2020 at 22:08:03
Neither is Romelu Lukaku. I know most will disagree. But he scores goals, and many good ones (eg, Chelsea FA Cup when Moshiri was rolled out by Uncle Bill).
Mike Gaynes
151 Posted 06/09/2020 at 22:09:27
Geoff, I'm always learning on English English... is being a leg end better or worse than being a bell end?
Geoff Lambert
152 Posted 06/09/2020 at 22:23:27
Mike, it's one down on a legend.
Tommy Carter
153 Posted 06/09/2020 at 22:37:55
Kanchelskis. Reid. Sheedy. All incredibly good players. But not world class.

None of them ever in contention for a Ballon d'Or. Reidy voted 21st in 1985. Behind the likes of Rafael Gordillo, Hans Peter Briegel and others who hardly left a huge mark on world football in the way that Rodríguez has.

We are talking about a player who could improve the starting XI of any club in world football.

Rooney was potentially world class at one point. But not with us. Same for Eto'o and Gascoigne.

David Ellis
154 Posted 06/09/2020 at 22:51:41
Newcastle have signed Wilson for £20 million. He is 29. I think I prefer our business.
Danny O’Neill
156 Posted 06/09/2020 at 23:08:11
I think the problem is that "world class" is banded about too often these days, Tommy. In reality, if you want true world class in my life time you're talking Cruyff, Maradona and Messi. Dare I say De Bruyne?

We over-use the term "world class", which should be reserved for those who are – not just incredibly good as you rightly call it.

Tom Bowers
157 Posted 06/09/2020 at 23:13:52
Wilson is no better than Calvert-Lewin so good luck to him at Barcodes.

It's fair to say that you don't need a team of World class players just maybe one or two who can play every week with consistency and can raise the confidence level of all around them.

Lukaku is as good a target man as you will find and I would have him back in an instant to pave the way for Richarlison.

In midfield, we are hoping that the improvements are coming with Sigurdsson probably moving although he would probably have stuck it to Southgate's mob with the penalty. Well done, Gomes, by the way.

With Holgate out, I do hope Keane doesn't play against Denmark.

Derek Knox
159 Posted 06/09/2020 at 23:21:30
Mike G@151, Well, helping you out to the best of my limited ability, you are definitely a living legend on TW, having met you, I can attest to that!

Not to be confused with leg end, which could allude to an unfortunate victim of amputation, or someone who is a heel!

A bell-end, apart from being an extremity, or a large summoning device in a church tower, which is operated by campanologists, by way of ropes and generally in unison.

Not to be confused with the other allusive allegory, relating to a male reproductive organ, which to merit the proper title, must be from an owner of such, that has undergone circumcision!

That's no skin off my nose, by the way, but could also apply to every Liverpool supporter, regardless of their religion, and also unfortunately, some contributors on TW!

No names and no pack drill! :-)

Mike Hughes
160 Posted 06/09/2020 at 23:27:10
Tommy #153,

Just to extend your point, it's not about individual player brilliance imho, it is about team fit.

Footy is a team sport. A Lee Carsley is as important as a Ronaldo in the right circumstances. (And Carsley was the first player on the team sheet for me in his time with us.)

I hope that is the type of bigger picture that Carlo is bringing to Everton. By addressing our midfield issues as a starting point, the signs are positive.

In our glory days (1984-87 for me) we had no stars but we had a fantastic team. And a winner's attitude (instilled by leaders like Reid and Gray).

Phil Lewis
161 Posted 06/09/2020 at 23:32:54
James will be the icing on this very enticing cake, currently being baked by Chef Carlo. I just hope that when he double-checks his expensive ingredients, he remembers that the foundation, a solid goalkeeper, is included. Otherwise this newest recipe will be a disastrous flop, just like all the others before it.
Danny O’Neill
162 Posted 06/09/2020 at 23:51:17
We did have stars, Mike. Sheedy & Trevor Steven. As well as the best keeper In Europe at the time.
Paul Birmingham
163 Posted 06/09/2020 at 00:00:33
Time to focus on the future, as past and very distant past success, in terms of winning trophies, or good players, can only be spiritual help.

The real time is soon, and at no time in my view is this season so important to Everton FC.

A rapidly changing world, because of Covid-19 & Brexit, is a crap storm that no-one could have predicted 13 months ago.

A good start is massive this season, and I have a sense of a turn around to the last game at Spurs.

Hopefully so...

John Wilson
164 Posted 07/09/2020 at 00:07:02
James has just signed... an Everton shirt. Cheeky sods on memorabilia were having him sign Everton shirts in Castle Street and now selling on eBay.
Mike Hughes
165 Posted 07/09/2020 at 00:08:01
Danny #162,

I disagree. We didn't recruit them as stars. They became stars during their time with us. Big difference.

John Wilson
166 Posted 07/09/2020 at 00:24:45
Happens that 'hamez' is a harder way of hollering 'James' as in it begins with H (not the gay one from Steps) and ends with ez/z. Yep I know that the Spanish like using H. Le Javier with an H. Imagine being dyslexic and Spanish. Hospital and buying ham might be a problem.
Mike Gaynes
167 Posted 07/09/2020 at 00:39:29
DK, you are a true literary artist, and a legend in your own right!

(Hope you're well, mate.)

Phil Lewis
168 Posted 07/09/2020 at 00:40:36
Paul #163,

I agree entirely. I am as guilty as the next ageing fan for waxing lyrical on past glories. But I have to say that I'm so blessed, as is every Evertonian of my generation, to have witnessed three glorious eras: the '63 Champions ('66 Cup winners included), the 1970 Champions, and – best of all – the magnificent mid-eighties team.

An absolute travesty that Trevor Steven was kept out of the England team by the likes of Platt, Waddle and Wilkins. (Their names alone sound like the firemen out of 'Trumpton'!)

Southall was the rock-solid foundation of the '80s team. But never underestimate the quality of Gordon West in the '60s. Ramsey wanted him for the Mexico World Cup in 1970. His missus at the time, I'm reliably informed, put the blocks on him going. Who knows, had 'Westy' played instead of Peter Bonetti, it could have been us going all the way, even against Pele & Co.

But you are quite correct, Paul, in your assessment. Younger 'Blues' must be fed up to their teeth with old fossils like me going on about former players, with as much relevance to them, as stars such as Cresswell and Dean from the '30s that my Dad used to rave about to me.

The only difference, of course, is that I only got to see snippets of grainy black-and-white film of his heroes, whereas there is a wealth of YouTube documentation of mine.

Nonetheless, it is the present and the immediate future that counts. For every Evertonian, but especially the younger ones... Come on Carlo, deliver us into the 'Promised Land'!

David Currie
169 Posted 07/09/2020 at 01:48:00
Could be the best left foot we have seen since Sheedy. I just hope he can be injury-free as we badly need his creativity to help Richarlison and Calvert-Lewin.
Nicolas Piñon
170 Posted 07/09/2020 at 06:16:33
Hello you all. I'm Nicolás, live in Buenos Aires Argentina. Have gonne to Goodison Park a couple of times cause I really love Everton. Last season, I went to the Wolverhampton game, the Villa one (away) and the cup tie in Lincoln City. That was the best match and stadium atmosphere I've witnessed in my life.

I've luckily been to bigger stadiums previously, but that was genuine English football, and the night, rain and way Everton won was pure magic for me. I'm a sports journalist down here.

Presentations apart, I'm really excited about this transfer window... but a bit worried only Allan's been presented officially until now. And don't want to sound pessimistic but, as someone said previously, the important thing would be the new players staying injury-free for the first couple of months of the season. I believe that would be a key thing.

I began following Everton from the days Arteta played with the Number 6 and this time I believe we have a squad that can get those good old days back.

Originally, I thought Ancelotti was going to go for a centre-back because ours are a bit too naive and injury-prone, in my opinion, but anyway we have Branthwaite to help as well if needed, so I can't wait the season to begin.

I would love to see Richarlison on the left and James on the right with Gomes behind Calvert-Lewin or Kean. And I wouldn't let any players go, if we want Europe, we need the whole squad. Bar Sandro, Besic and Bolasie, of course. COYB!!

Tommy Carter
171 Posted 07/09/2020 at 06:28:30
@161 Phil

I agree completely with what you say. But the addition of a world class player would've made the great Everton team, full of great players even better. Surely?

In 1988 we signed Cottee. The Ballon d'Or player that year was Marco van Basten. Undoubtedly world class. Signing the Dutchman would've been an improvement surely?

When we signed Ian Wilson as Champions, Liverpool signed John Barnes. One was world class. The other was Ian Wilson.

Currently, we don't have a team full of incredibly good players. So it makes even less sense to pass up signing a player of James's quality.

To apply the same theory, at our lowest points, in the 1994 close season, had we signed Ballon d'Or winner, Hristro Stoichkov, I think he would've improved our team. In 1998, Zidane would've been a better choice than Peter Degn.

Paul Johnson
172 Posted 07/09/2020 at 06:30:07
When we played (beat) Tottenham at White Hart Lane in '85. The London Evening Standard wrote a full one-page article on Everton on the day of the game. The title of the article “A team of no stars”. This was not a derogatory article, it just outlined how Howard Kendall had moulded a group of players into a great team.

Let's not forget that four of the starting eleven in the '86 World Cup Quarter-final were Everton players. Only beaten by the “Hand of God“.

There are always going to be players who are head and shoulders above others but, if they don't fit into a system, then they don't guarantee success. Everton in '85 and '87 in particular were living proof of that. However, I think James's signing will add to our team as he has the ability to unlock doors and we haven't had that since Kevin Sheedy.

Paul Johnson
173 Posted 07/09/2020 at 06:33:31
Apologies, I forgot that we would have had five in the Argentina game if big Billy Whitehurst had not committed GBH on Paul Bracewell.
Steve Shave
174 Posted 07/09/2020 at 07:48:33
Welcome, Nicolas! Buenos Aires – what a city! I've been to a few games down there so for you to say that about the Goodison atmosphere is great to hear. Keep posting, Nicolas! :)
Ray Roche
175 Posted 07/09/2020 at 08:54:01
Nicolás, as Steve says, keep posting, it will be good to have our own Argentine correspondent on ToffeeWeb.

You can keep us up to speed on South American football, along with Jay (Brz) who writes some interesting and insightful pieces on Brazil.

Welcome to ToffeeWeb! 👍🏻

Steve Shave
176 Posted 07/09/2020 at 08:57:01
Eventually, Ray, we might be able to cover the globe with our own "in house" correspondent.

Nicolas, your first assignment: any decent right-backs from your homeland?

Ray Roche
177 Posted 07/09/2020 at 09:02:23
Steve, we’ve got Mike G covering the USA already.
Dan Nulty
178 Posted 07/09/2020 at 11:24:16
I can't work out how I'm going to feel when this goes through. Firstly I was excited to attract such a quality player, then nervous at his playing record over the last few seasons. Now it is all frustration at what is taking so long and I think I will just be feeling relief when it does go through!
Danny Baily
180 Posted 07/09/2020 at 11:52:42
Dan 178, my thought process exactly. I'd actually be happy for the Rodriguez deal to fall through as long as we get Doucoure.

Too slow and too injury prone. It's a big gamble.

Joe McMahon
181 Posted 07/09/2020 at 12:04:39
Danny, yes it's a concern, and I feel he will need to be wrapped in cotton wool.

On the subject of injured midfielders earning a fortune at Everton, I only found out yesterday that Darren Gibson is now at Salford.

Phil Lewis
182 Posted 07/09/2020 at 12:21:17
Good to be in agreement Tom. In addition to your very valid points, not only did we fail to sign 'class acts' at crucial periods in our history, we actually sold our best players. Notably Alan Ball in the 70's and Gary Linaker in the 80's. Both of the Everton teams they played in should have gone on to dominate their respective era's had the board invested in similar quality players. Instead, our most successful teams were allowed to disintegrate in a most criminal fashion.
I know that Heysel is often quoted as the reason for our demise in the eighties, but no such tragedy occurred in the 70's when the same thing had happened. Which leads me to conclude that we had serious boardroom and managerial malfunction. I used to dread the close season, when the other shower across the park always seemed to make at least one 'star' signing, when we as you pointed out, bought a series of duds.
I realise now why Brian Clough would never have been approved by the Everton board as he was nobody's 'yes' man. His politics and outspokeness were totally at odds with the Goodison hierarchy. But what a formidable leader he would have been to combat Liverpool in their glory days.
Geoff Lambert
183 Posted 07/09/2020 at 12:47:36
What on earth is going on???

Getting nervous now, come on Everton pull your fingers out ant get them holding the shirt.

Rob Halligan
184 Posted 07/09/2020 at 12:50:36
Rodriguez announcement this afternoon.
Andrew Ellams
185 Posted 07/09/2020 at 12:53:30
Do we expect the new boys to start on Sunday? Surely they have to. Especially if Gomes is missing.
Geoff Lambert
186 Posted 07/09/2020 at 12:56:39
Will they be signed by then Andrew??
Sukhdev Sohal
187 Posted 07/09/2020 at 13:05:27
I hope we get someone better than Dalot, like Tete or Florenzi on loan. JJK is still an unknown quantity, I don't think he's good enough.
Jonathan Tasker
188 Posted 07/09/2020 at 13:07:42
Why do Everton handicap every manager every season by leaving their transfer business to the last minute ?
It’s a shambles
Andrew Ellams
189 Posted 07/09/2020 at 13:09:10
Well Allan already is Geoff and I suspect the others will be too.
Bill Gall
190 Posted 07/09/2020 at 13:35:48
Phil #182 Another one of our best players who was sold to soon but does not get mentioned very often, and he is Bobby Collins. Came from Celtic in 1958 and was sold to Leeds in 1962. Member of the Leeds team playing Everton at Goodison Park on November 9th 1964 when the ref took the teams off 10min before half time.
Going on today's refereeing standards there would have been at least 3/4 red cards after the first 10 min.
Duncan McDine
191 Posted 07/09/2020 at 13:40:57
Rob 184, that’s reassuring to those of us getting a bit twitchy in the rear. Hope you’re right - and I’m sure you are.
Tony Everan
192 Posted 07/09/2020 at 13:41:46
Andrew, I expect Allan and Doucoure to start, James possibly on the bench.

Sunday’s team??? 4-2-3-1 ? Assuming Gomes and Holgate injured.(and Doucoure actually has signed by then!)

JJK Keane Mina Digne
Allan Doucoure
Richarlison Sigurdsson Bernard

Michael Low
193 Posted 07/09/2020 at 13:53:17
I’ve never seen him play, but if the the posts on here are anything to go by - I’m licking my lips and rubbing my hands together in eager anticipation. COYB
Andrew Ellams
194 Posted 07/09/2020 at 13:53:23
You could be right there Tony, although if I was a gambling man I might be tempted to have a little bet on Gordon ahead of Bernard.

Does this mean James will make his first start against the mighty Salford?

Sean Callaghan
195 Posted 07/09/2020 at 14:10:01
Well said Sukhdev (179). I'm surprised that nasty post hasn't been deleted by the editors...106 if you're interested Michael and Lyndon
Joe McMahon
196 Posted 07/09/2020 at 14:21:37
Ok, just logged in hoping to see James holding the shirt.

I agree with comments above, that posts 106 and 107 are not for this website, these posts are offensive.

Paul Hewitt
197 Posted 07/09/2020 at 14:24:38
Both at FF. Announcement.soon.
Phil Lewis
198 Posted 07/09/2020 at 14:25:15
I'm familiar with Collins, although have only a very vague memory of him playing for us, as I was too young. My elder brothers used to rave about him. I do remember that Leeds match in '64 though. I would have been an 11year old by then. They were a dirty lot and they had supporters to match.
As a very young kid, I used to love travelling to away games with my brothers who were eleven and sixteen years older than me. One of my earliest recollections was getting the train to Blackburn from Exchange Station, their stars at that time were Ronnie Clayton and Bryan Douglas. We would happily mix in the pub afterwards with opposing supporters and the banter was warm and innocent. Those Leeds fans brought a sinister nastiness with them when they were promoted and as I recall, they were one of the earliest instigators of the football violence which so blighted the game.
Andrew Merrick
199 Posted 07/09/2020 at 14:32:24
Bills biggest drama yet this, just get it done or tell us why its been dropped!
Jay Harris
200 Posted 07/09/2020 at 14:32:41
Allegedly the deals were delayed by a disagreement about how the fee was to be paid.

Although the amount was agreed the spread of the payment wasnt.

I guess we're not used to shopping at Harrods and Bill is trying his penny pinching antics again.

Colin Glassar
201 Posted 07/09/2020 at 14:42:21
Both deals done. Will be announced today or tomorrow according to Vinnie O’Connor
Brent Stephens
202 Posted 07/09/2020 at 14:46:11
Getting excited. Open those gates and only let in old shortarses like me. Sorry Dave Abrahams age alone doesn’t do it.
Colin Glassar
203 Posted 07/09/2020 at 14:50:43
Max Aaron’s at RB would be nice now
Alan Rodgers
205 Posted 07/09/2020 at 15:01:02
James R. pictured leaving the Hilton which I would say is slightly inferior to the Titanic. Wonder where Dacoure will be billeted ? Maybe the bedsit on Goodison Road is available.
Anyway it will be great to get all 3 in.
Bill Gall
206 Posted 07/09/2020 at 15:09:26
Jay #200 If the delay is over the spread of the payments this will most probably be to conform to the FFP rules. We are all speculating what the delays on the announcement on new players is, but going on most reports it cant be anything major. Keep your fingers and toes crossed.
Mike Gaynes
207 Posted 07/09/2020 at 15:11:50
Colin #203, have we ever been rumored to be interested in him?

PSG and Bayern reported in for him now.

Brent Stephens
208 Posted 07/09/2020 at 15:16:05
Bill #206 I don’t know whether we can claim an FFP waiver under revised FFP regs as a result of COVID?
Ernie Baywood
209 Posted 07/09/2020 at 15:19:17
Brent, I'll take a punt on clubs assuming the rules will be torn up in the current climate.
Keith Harrison
210 Posted 07/09/2020 at 15:21:12
If we don't sign Hamez soon, he'll be 25 stone, the number of restaurants he's been spotted at!!
Dan Nulty
211 Posted 07/09/2020 at 15:32:52
Just to give some sort of context about how much this deal could be worth to is commercially, Everton have 2.1m followers on twitter, 1.7m on Instagram. James is not on twitter but has 46.1m followers on Instagram. I hope we sell shirts in South America. Potentially a few columbian sponsors coming on board and hopefully the Premier league don't do a fit and proper persons test on sponsors.
Brent Stephens
212 Posted 07/09/2020 at 15:35:10
Ernie, the rules have apparently changed. I just don’t know whether we would want to make a case to exploit them.
Brent Stephens
213 Posted 07/09/2020 at 15:37:15
Keith, he probably doesn’t realise the Eat Out to Help Out scheme has ended.
Geoff Lambert
214 Posted 07/09/2020 at 15:44:58
My contact at the club is keeping quiet, usualy gives me a criptic clue or two but nothing. Must be very busy.
Colin Glassar
215 Posted 07/09/2020 at 15:54:57
Mike, he’d be the perfect replacement for Seamus. Him and the other kid, Lewis, are going to be top players.
Rob Halligan
216 Posted 07/09/2020 at 15:55:04
The way I see it is that the official Everton website has not changed since yesterday, and it is taking a few hours to update the site with both signings. When you think Just one signing can have four or five different threads on it (are they threads?), interviews, pictures etc, then I imagine it can take a good while to update two signings. Everyone needs to be patient. These are deffo happening.
Steve Hopkins
218 Posted 07/09/2020 at 16:01:21
This is almost as much fun as the Riquelme saga of yesteryear. Hopefully the outcome is better this time around
Joe McMahon
219 Posted 07/09/2020 at 16:03:03
The rumour I heard is that the atmosphere at Finch Farm this afternoon was a bit prickly as James didn't recognise Jeffers and Unsworth the minute he walked in.
Mike Gaynes
220 Posted 07/09/2020 at 16:09:45
Agreed, Colin. Great young players. I have just never read a single word in any paper that we were in for either of them. Saw a list last week of the RBs we've been connected to... Aarons wasn't on it. Did you hear something?
Colin Glassar
221 Posted 07/09/2020 at 16:10:23
Joe, I heard James trapped a ball and passed it to one of his team mates. Iwobi‘s draw dropped and he asked him, “how did you do that?”
Colin Glassar
222 Posted 07/09/2020 at 16:12:29
Nah Mike, just wishful thinking. I’m still upset we missed out on a young Kyle Walker all those years ago.
Joe McMahon
223 Posted 07/09/2020 at 16:13:22
Colin, love it!
Andrew Ellams
224 Posted 07/09/2020 at 16:19:41
That was an achievement even by Everton's standards Colin. Gazumped at the last minute on 2 players by Spurs.
Barry Rathbone
225 Posted 07/09/2020 at 16:19:48
Won't be enough.

At least 50% of transfers fail and in my lifetime our % has always been infuriatingly higher. We need at least 4 players hitting the ground running to make an impact ergo we needed 8 incoming.

Another false dawn in the offing.

Colin Glassar
226 Posted 07/09/2020 at 16:23:26
Andrew, all because Bk refused to leg it to the airport and Harry bloody Redknapp got their first!
Dave Abrahams
227 Posted 07/09/2020 at 16:31:00
Andrew (224), I remember that, think the other player was a full back as well, Naughton I think, can’t remember his first name, was it another Kyle?
Kieran Kinsella
228 Posted 07/09/2020 at 16:33:42

Yes both Kyles. Naughton didn’t turn out as well for Spurs

Tony Abrahams
229 Posted 07/09/2020 at 16:33:51
It’s nearly tea-time Barry.
Robert Tressell
230 Posted 07/09/2020 at 16:46:28
Barry @ 225. To make a confident tilt at the top 4 and beyond, we probs did need 8 players. That's because only Holgate, Digne and Richarlison look like top 4 material (at the moment). So you are right.

But 8 top 4 quality players would cost circa £200 to £400m. I don't think any club is spending that sort of money.

What we've done should make us very competitive for the best of the rest slot (7th) with a chance of sneaking 6th.

If the immediate expectation is higher than that, then yes it's going to be a false dawn.

Competing for honours would take something remarkable like Kean scoring 30 goals, Gordon scoring 15, Rodriguez staying fit, Keane running fast and Pickford being a good goalkeeper.

But I'm happy to take the marked improvement that the 3 signings should bring - and hopefully we're now on an upward trajectory more generally.

Kieran Kinsella
231 Posted 07/09/2020 at 16:48:34
Hopefully James hasn’t been introduced to Delph and co during discussions. “Hi I’m Colombian superstar James Rodriguez, who are you guys?” Delph “we are all fucking crap.”
Andrew Ellams
232 Posted 07/09/2020 at 16:51:29
He didn't Kieran but they did shift him on for a profit.

Wasn't the original deal £5m for the pair?

Dave Abrahams
233 Posted 07/09/2020 at 17:07:03
Kieran (228), Thanks Kieran.
John Wilson
234 Posted 07/09/2020 at 17:16:30
A people carrier was seen going into Finch USM about 30 mins ago apparently, could be Rodriguez or the other one. Think the fans need James unveiling first ok think then followed by Decoure.
Si Cooper
235 Posted 07/09/2020 at 17:19:27
Wasn’t Kyle Naughton the better rated one at the time? Just shows that player development isn’t really predictable.
‘A false dawn’? Seems a harsh assessment of some potentially good business. No guarantees, but there never are. It was never going to be 8 coming in. However, effort has been made to sort out a one dimensional midfield. If we accept the choices the manager had were limiting then there is also the possibility that some of the players were constrained by the quality around them. Therefore, the new options may give a new lease of life to some who have been failing recently. If they continue to fail then the January transfer window may see some serious trading this season.
John Wilson
236 Posted 07/09/2020 at 17:23:14
I don't want to guess where we'll finish. I just want to win every game we can and at least more than one top 6 team away. That is progress
Rob Halligan
237 Posted 07/09/2020 at 17:23:51
Just been reading on some Twitter account that Doucoure will be announced at 6pm and Rodriguez at 9pm.
Peter Gorman
238 Posted 07/09/2020 at 17:25:48
Si - you are correct: Everton and Spurs were fighting over Naughton and Spurs won the bidding war by throwing in a little more for some kid called Kyle Walker.
Paul Hewitt
239 Posted 07/09/2020 at 17:26:39
What day Rob?
Jay Harris
240 Posted 07/09/2020 at 17:27:49
I hope youre right but we havent got good form when signigs are delayed this long and apparently Doucoure is the sticky one.
John Wilson
241 Posted 07/09/2020 at 17:28:09
Rob can you get us s link for the 6pm and 9pm unveiling?
Mike Gaynes
242 Posted 07/09/2020 at 17:29:00
You're just leading us on, Rob......................
Keith Harrison
243 Posted 07/09/2020 at 17:30:23
John, it was a people carrier because Hamez has put on that much weight since last Thursday mate. Put your trust in Rob Halligan people, he's usually 100% correct 50% of the time!
Patrick McFarlane
244 Posted 07/09/2020 at 17:31:04
Rob #237
You told us on Friday it would all be done and dusted by 6pm. Is Bill K trying to do a Cecil B Demille production with these two signings?
Jay Harris
245 Posted 07/09/2020 at 17:33:02
Ah but he didnt say what day PAtrick. According to BK's people it will be Xmas day.
Rob Halligan
246 Posted 07/09/2020 at 17:33:21
I found it on the red echo site, but can't seem to be able to post the link.
Colin Glassar
247 Posted 07/09/2020 at 17:53:05
Any news about Riquelme or Moutinho, Rob? I’ve gone totally gozzy watching that space!
Danny O’Neill
248 Posted 07/09/2020 at 17:53:22
Mike Hughes (@165). Fair point. I'll call it a subtle difference though. They were always going to be stars, it just happened to be with us.

But you're right, there's a difference between buying a ready made star and having one become one as a result of their time with us.

Rob Halligan
249 Posted 07/09/2020 at 17:55:15
All done and dusted Colin. 😁😁😁
Brian Williams
250 Posted 07/09/2020 at 17:56:05
Not long to wait Rob to see if you're the prophet, or just a very naughty boy!!!!
Dan Nulty
251 Posted 07/09/2020 at 17:57:56
I'm genuo Ely bored of checking on this now. Going to take the dog for a very long walk which means it will probably be announced in 5 minutes when I'm on the moors with no signal.
Dan Nulty
252 Posted 07/09/2020 at 17:58:18
Brent Stephens
253 Posted 07/09/2020 at 17:58:42
One minute to Rob Halligan time.
Brent Stephens
254 Posted 07/09/2020 at 18:00:10
Rob Halligan time!
Peter Gorman
255 Posted 07/09/2020 at 18:00:44
Rob Halligan is a cad.
Brent Stephens
256 Posted 07/09/2020 at 18:01:23
Rob Halligan now in hiding.
Brent Stephens
257 Posted 07/09/2020 at 18:01:59
Rob, when does the world end?
Rob Halligan
258 Posted 07/09/2020 at 18:02:00
I didn't say what day!! 😁😁😁
Brent Stephens
259 Posted 07/09/2020 at 18:02:25
Brian Williams
260 Posted 07/09/2020 at 18:03:28
Well Vinnie O'Connor DID give us some good news. Leeds are after Walcott.
Rob, while remaining polite and being aware of your feelings I'd like to say that as a forecaster you're the absolute SHITS! 😂😂😂
Rob Halligan
261 Posted 07/09/2020 at 18:05:30
Carlo after Fernando Llorente from Napoli.
Brent Stephens
262 Posted 07/09/2020 at 18:07:12
Rob, which Carlo? Which Llorente? Which Napoli? And what do you mean by "after"?
Brian Williams
263 Posted 07/09/2020 at 18:07:31
No he's not!

Read better stuff Rob!

Keith Harrison
264 Posted 07/09/2020 at 18:09:29
I told you about Rob's accuracy, Folks. And I was being generous.
Brent Stephens
265 Posted 07/09/2020 at 18:11:04
Halligan to be strung up outside GP at 6.00 am. Limited ticket availability (10,000).
Rob Halligan
266 Posted 07/09/2020 at 18:11:28
Can't be right all of the time.
Paul Johnson
267 Posted 07/09/2020 at 18:12:32
Taking the piss now. It’s ok saying they are thinking of the Colombian market but what about us soft knobheads here in the uk who are constantly looking at every outlet for news. They really do my head in.
Brian Williams
268 Posted 07/09/2020 at 18:12:51
Rob Halligan to become an MP.
He's a natural!
Keith Harrison
269 Posted 07/09/2020 at 18:14:41
Funny you say that, Brian. He's a dead ringer for Boris!!
Keith Harrison
270 Posted 07/09/2020 at 18:16:07
And Is Rob an anagram of Boris?
Rob Halligan
271 Posted 07/09/2020 at 18:20:55
I think someone was telling porkies on the red echo website. 😠😠😠
Si Cooper
272 Posted 07/09/2020 at 18:24:43
So Rob is just repeating journo ramblings? What is the point of that? At least make it clear that you are just trawling the internet rather than having a genuine source.

It doesn't make you an ITK, just a WUM.

Keith Harrison
273 Posted 07/09/2020 at 18:26:02
I think the clue is in "Red" Echo, Rob. I've taken that Conor Dunn to task before for reporting on Everton while he is a dyed Kopite. All the in-article videos were redshite, and all the 'must-read' stories were red.
Brian Williams
274 Posted 07/09/2020 at 18:27:00
Si. Rob made it clear his "info" was from Twitter or the Echo and I don't think he was 100% serious about it all.
Rob Halligan
275 Posted 07/09/2020 at 18:27:27
Si, I did say it was on the red echo website, and therefore not a reliable source. Since when has that paper ever been reliable?
Keith Harrison
276 Posted 07/09/2020 at 18:27:35
In Boris's.... I mean Rob's defence, Si, he does have contacts within the club. At least he told me he knows someone that is 'in the club'?
Tom Bowers
277 Posted 07/09/2020 at 18:28:08
The Donald says it's all fake news!!!
John Wilson
278 Posted 07/09/2020 at 18:36:54
This is my source for the people carrier.



I think Rob Halligan's source must have meant 6pm and 9pm tomorrow.

Si Cooper
279 Posted 07/09/2020 at 18:39:48
‘Rodríguez announcement this afternoon'.
‘These are deffo happening.'

Referring to an unnamed twitter account (which could be a valid source). Some examples where Rob hasn't said he is relying on dubious sources.

Seems to me Rob is playing it a bit fast and loose with how he is characterising his info, as if he wouldn't mind appearing as an ITK if (when) the transfers are completed.

I find that pointless and a bit annoying though I guess it gets classed as banter these days.

Dan Nulty
280 Posted 07/09/2020 at 18:41:00
At least I know Rob is a proper wind-up merchant now. Fair play for having the brass neck to post the worst transfer rumour after the time at which you said the transfer would be announced, being unable to name your source or post a link to it.

Amazing set of melons you have...

Rob Halligan
281 Posted 07/09/2020 at 18:44:20
FFS Si, chill out mate. Since when have I said I'm ITK?

Like most people, I'm looking at other websites who are saying these things. The only thing I've said which is not said on other websites is "They're deffo happening" — which I think they will.

Brent Stephens
282 Posted 07/09/2020 at 18:44:59
Of course Rob was being light-hearted in duplicating the prediction. Never intended to be naked-on serious.
Andrew Ellams
283 Posted 07/09/2020 at 18:45:58
I've seen the Llorente rumour too. Between us and West Ham...
Brent Stephens
284 Posted 07/09/2020 at 18:48:04
“naked-on serious “!

Should read “nailed-on”!

Si Cooper
285 Posted 07/09/2020 at 18:50:59
Now mind-reading is a prerequisite for being on TW!

I took him seriously, Brent and deferred something I could have had done at 6 pm. Waste of my time.

Jay Harris
286 Posted 07/09/2020 at 18:56:17
It's being suggested there is a snag with Doucouré but no need on Rodriguez even though he allegedly went to Finch Farm this afternoon.

Maybe he didn't like the cuisine there and is having second thoughts. Didn't he turn Bayern down because it was too cold?

Brian Williams
287 Posted 07/09/2020 at 18:57:37
Mind-reading or a bit of common sense!

Lighten up, Victor!

Brent Stephens
288 Posted 07/09/2020 at 18:58:09
Si, I have to admit that I also looked in at 6:00 – but only as a “just in case“, knowing that I'm not aware of anybody ITK on TW.
Patrick McFarlane
289 Posted 07/09/2020 at 19:07:01
I don't get why both players have to be 'revealed' together, each deal is separate isn't it? Unless of course, the guys at the World Heritage organisation have put forward some objections to Everton buying two players simultaneously, thus threatening to dilute the city of its red domination.
Will Mabon
290 Posted 07/09/2020 at 19:07:19
Jay, the money here is hotter.
Tony Everan
291 Posted 07/09/2020 at 19:08:34
Jay, I've read that Doucouré passed his medical on Saturday and has agreed a 3-year contract with an option for another year. Some legal points in the contracts holding it up, hopefully the lawyers can agree on it soon.

Martin Atkinson announced as our ref on Sunday.

Steve Hopkins
292 Posted 07/09/2020 at 19:10:05
Elton John playing hard ball over Doucouré, still holding a grudge from 1984?
Bill Watson
293 Posted 07/09/2020 at 19:17:20
Brent #265

I'd like to express an interest in a ticket for the Rob lynching event.

Will it count as a credit for away games?

Can you confirm which day it will be or will I have to log into TW every hour?

Duncan McDine
294 Posted 07/09/2020 at 19:17:36
Si, will never know if they won the jackpot on Pointless today. That's pretty shitty of you, Rob.
Colin Glassar
295 Posted 07/09/2020 at 19:18:13
Rob, us clairvoyants have to put up with a lot of grief. Mark my words, once all three are signed, you will be hailed as a fortune teller of the highest order!
Bill Gall
296 Posted 07/09/2020 at 19:18:58
I guessed the problem with the Rodrigeuz signing... it is the taxi driver's fault: instead of going to Finch Farm, he took him to a Fat Farm.

Rodriguez didn't like the food.

Si Cooper
297 Posted 07/09/2020 at 19:19:14
So just wanting clarity on what people are posting makes me Victor Meldrew?

I don't know where common sense is supposed to get you when people post unambiguous statements and back it up with 100% guarantees.

I actually think concluding these transfers with the minimum of fuss is pretty important for the future of the club. Has no-one seen the high profile nature of Ancelottti in the BT advert?

He is recognised as a draw for players and I don't want the club to look like second-raters if the biggest signing of them all ends up saying ‘Changed my mind.'

Neil Copeland
298 Posted 07/09/2020 at 19:20:15
Bill #293, too late... Si has taken up the whole lot.
David Pearl
299 Posted 07/09/2020 at 19:21:53
Wonder if James and Doucouré will even be registered in time for the weekend. Why am l am Everton fan? I blame me dad...
Rob Halligan
300 Posted 07/09/2020 at 19:23:22
Bill #293. I'll post on here when cleared with Brent, that's providing nobody has anything important to do on the day!!
Duncan McDine
301 Posted 07/09/2020 at 19:23:25
Si - surely when Rob posted about the big reveal timings... you must have thought to yourself “I don't beleeeeiiiiiiive it”!!!
Brent Stephens
302 Posted 07/09/2020 at 19:27:01
Bill #293.

We'll be hanging Rob from the banks of the royal blue Mersey. Accompanying song being penned as I type (ambidextrous).

Brian Williams
303 Posted 07/09/2020 at 19:27:36
LMAO @Duncan. 😂😂😂

Rob, thinking of going fishing tomorrow. How's the weather looking?

Mike Gaynes
304 Posted 07/09/2020 at 19:29:19
Brent, I prefer "naked on" to "nailed on" any day.

Rob, I've got a spare room at the beach if things get too hot for you Merseyside. And it's only 11:30am here, so my faith in your clairvoyance is still intact!

David, we've heard who you play golf with.

Si Cooper
305 Posted 07/09/2020 at 19:30:39
Bit annoyed – not in lynching mood, Neil. I just see the persistent posting of rumours without qualification as a roll of the dice in the hope one will pay off and the poster will get congratulated on their foresight. Like posting tons of stuff on social media in the hope some of it will be ‘liked'.

Messes up my search for actual knowledge. I have no issue with opinions, predictions, wishes, etc but sometimes they do need signposting because people do post stuff that transcends that level.

Bobby Mallon
306 Posted 07/09/2020 at 19:30:40
Brent Stephens 288, I'm ITK, (in the kitchen) making chorizo, chicken, & king prawn paella. 😂
Mike Gaynes
307 Posted 07/09/2020 at 19:31:48
Bobby, if I didn't already have a ribeye in the iron skillet, I'd be on my way to your house.
Jonathan Tasker
308 Posted 07/09/2020 at 19:32:37
Regardless of whether they sign, why are these deals being left so late?

Perhaps James will pull out and his agent will claim he thought his salary was netto...

Brian Williams
309 Posted 07/09/2020 at 19:32:44
Bobby is that for real? Just for clarification, Paella?

It's not a windup is it?

Brian Williams
310 Posted 07/09/2020 at 19:35:36
It's on Sky Sports News now. He's signed.
Rob Halligan
311 Posted 07/09/2020 at 19:36:24
Brian, you WUM.
John Wilson
312 Posted 07/09/2020 at 19:36:50
Columbian tweeter Pipe SierraR:

My math is Rodriguez will be on 140,000 a week approx. Did that in my head so might have made a mistake. No surprises but highest earner now. Some dough TWs. Allegedly, was on 200k for Real Madrid.

Pipe Sierra
· 45mins
Blue circle✍🏼 Firmado / Signed Flag of Colombia

Contrato de James Rodríguez en el #Everton:

3 años.
7M£ por temporada + bonos.
25M€ para #RealMadrid.

Contract of James Rodríguez (29) in #Everton:

3 years.
£7M per season + bonuses.
€25M for #RealMadrid.

Brian Williams
313 Posted 07/09/2020 at 19:40:25
Rob, not me mate.

Ah wait one though, shit, I've accidentally hit the +24 hours button on the planner.

I've been watching tomorrow's Sky Sports News.


Rob Halligan
314 Posted 07/09/2020 at 19:43:29
Don't anyone tune into SSN at 9pm, just in case there is no news of a signing!!
Geoff Lambert
315 Posted 07/09/2020 at 19:43:32
Got to be a problem here, Only Everton FFS.
Si Cooper
316 Posted 07/09/2020 at 19:44:23
Duncan, it's always ‘I'll believe it when I see him holding the shirt” when it comes to Everton.

I do think there is an element of wanting to be seen as well informed or particularly positive when some people post which I just don't understand. If that makes me more susceptible to being taken in then maybe that is what my problem is.

I've explained why I am taking this transfer seriously. If it gets to the stage where I can't read any other TWebbers posts without having to automatically dismiss it as likely to be nonsense, I may as well go back to the tabloids.

Brent Stephens
317 Posted 07/09/2020 at 19:45:25
Jonathan “Perhaps James will pull out and his agent will claim he thought his salary was netto”.

Re pulling out, James was seen today getting off at Edge Hill Station. What a mess.

Brian Williams
318 Posted 07/09/2020 at 19:46:48
I'm Spartacus.
Si Cooper
319 Posted 07/09/2020 at 19:48:13
One thing that is obvious. Brian ain't as funny as he thinks he is! 😉
Brian Williams
320 Posted 07/09/2020 at 19:49:57
But you ARE as miserable as you seem. 😉
Paul Hewitt
321 Posted 07/09/2020 at 19:51:05
Everton Twitter saying announcement at 8...
Neil Copeland
322 Posted 07/09/2020 at 19:51:20
Si, every post or thread I have read on TW is a healthy mix of well informed stuff and tongue-in-cheek banter. I often get taken in by things on here but have long since learned not to take it too seriously.
Tony Abrahams
323 Posted 07/09/2020 at 19:51:35
Martin fucking Atkinson, and his mummified fuckin face, thanks for the information, Tony..... arghh.
Neil Copeland
324 Posted 07/09/2020 at 19:54:45
Rob #314, FFS I have just figured out how to use my programme planner and now you tell us it's another wind up!

Brent, can I have a ticket please, I'll pay whatever the rate is.

John Wilson
325 Posted 07/09/2020 at 19:55:12
If Rodriguez is unveiled later, I think Everton might leave Doucouré until tomorrow.

Rob use sources, mate, or it's just hearsay in about the Third-hand account, ha ha!

Stephen Brown
326 Posted 07/09/2020 at 19:56:50
Yerry Mina on Everton Twitter now!! With a Colombian flag behind him!!!
Rob Halligan
327 Posted 07/09/2020 at 19:58:18
Sorry Neil. 😁😁😁
Geoff Lambert
328 Posted 07/09/2020 at 19:58:36
Big developments on James transfer next on SSN.
Brian Williams
329 Posted 07/09/2020 at 19:58:53
Now they HAVE just said big developments on the Rodriguez transfer NEXT on SSN.

Si, that's for real, honestly.

Geoff Lambert
330 Posted 07/09/2020 at 19:59:45
Not looking good this.
Brent Stephens
331 Posted 07/09/2020 at 20:00:50
Brian Williams
332 Posted 07/09/2020 at 20:00:56
Fuck off Geoff lol.
Rob Halligan
333 Posted 07/09/2020 at 20:01:09
Confirmed!!! An hour early. Bastards!!!
Paul Hewitt
334 Posted 07/09/2020 at 20:01:10
John Wilson
335 Posted 07/09/2020 at 20:01:14
Everton official showing Mina doing a dance with the cryptic: "What's happening, Yerry." Must finally be happening.
Brent Stephens
336 Posted 07/09/2020 at 20:01:23
£22 million.
Brent Stephens
337 Posted 07/09/2020 at 20:01:47
Two year deal
Brian Williams
338 Posted 07/09/2020 at 20:03:00
Rob Halligan. I'd say within two hours is an acceptable timeframe to accept that you are a prophet!
Paul Johnson
339 Posted 07/09/2020 at 20:03:16
Welcome on board, James!
Si Cooper
340 Posted 07/09/2020 at 20:03:28
Neil, TW used to be a community but it is rapidly turning into a clique with unelected ringleaders like Brian Williams trying to impose their judgement on how every body should act / react. There is an obvious group of people who know each other better than most of us do and apparently it's their way or the highway.

I just asked for people not to post stuff any of us could get simply by trawling the internet without mentioning that and now I'm openly insulted by Brian multiple times.

This site is not what it used to be.

Neil Copeland
341 Posted 07/09/2020 at 20:03:38
On time if you live somewhere in West mainland Europe
Brent Stephens
342 Posted 07/09/2020 at 20:05:46
Well done Rob. Lynching postponed until the celebrations are over.
Ray Roche
343 Posted 07/09/2020 at 20:07:01
Trained with the squad today and STILL signed.
Brian Williams
344 Posted 07/09/2020 at 20:07:02
Jesus Si lighten up ffs. You fell for a light hearted comment. It's not the end of the world. We're just having a laugh.
You shoulda just laughed it off instead of being so sensitive.
I'm no ringleader you've just grossly over reacted.

And, as a point of order I believe YOU started with the personal insults, check the thread.

Having said that, all good here mate. No problems here mate, no grudges held.

Rob Halligan
345 Posted 07/09/2020 at 20:07:42
I'm normally pretty much spot on with such things, but being only two hours out ain't bad!!
Rob Halligan
346 Posted 07/09/2020 at 20:08:42
Si, Brian's no ringleader, just the clown.😁😁
Brian Williams
347 Posted 07/09/2020 at 20:09:38
You call me a clown coz I've got a big red nose?
Brent Stephens
348 Posted 07/09/2020 at 20:10:21
Rob you actually predicted James for 9.00 didn’t you? So minutes out. If you’d said “in the 21st hour today” you’d have been spot on.
James Flynn
349 Posted 07/09/2020 at 20:10:42
Si (343) - Calm down.

Neither Brian nor anyone else runs anything beyond their fingers over a keyboard.

Even if there is a clique of some sort amongst a few, fuck em.

Two, and only two, people run the show in here. Lyndon and Michael.

Neil Copeland
351 Posted 07/09/2020 at 20:12:11
Rob, you were only 1 hour out on your revised prediction
Rob Halligan
352 Posted 07/09/2020 at 20:13:00
Maybe Doucoure is at 9pm, but don't take that as gospel.
Brent Stephens
353 Posted 07/09/2020 at 20:13:48
Yes, Si. Keep posting mate. I do take notice of ur posts, really. It was all pre-signing tension.
Si Cooper
355 Posted 07/09/2020 at 20:17:53
Brian, you just can’t help yourself can you? Now I’m sensitive for having a problem with the way you’ve gone for me because I asked for guesswork to be signposted lest it be miss-leading.
I could resort to your level and use a stream of negative adjectives for you but I don’t really want to.
Brian Williams
356 Posted 07/09/2020 at 20:18:43
Si, I apologise. Now can we move on.
Si Cooper
357 Posted 07/09/2020 at 20:23:06
Fair enough Brian. (Socally distanced) handshake, all forgiven and forgotten.
I’m really pleased Rob turned out to be spot on! 🦄
Keith Harrison
358 Posted 07/09/2020 at 20:24:32
I'm not posting as I know Rob, and Hamez has signed.

Also Rob was over an hour late, so should be whipped to within an inch of his life.

May I suggest anyone desperately wanting news become an official member of Everton. They release news when it is news.

Mind you, I waste loads of time refreshing Newsnow Everton every 15 seconds, and listening to Rob!!

As Oddball said in Kelly's heroes, "let's stop making with the negative waves people!"

Brian Williams
359 Posted 07/09/2020 at 20:26:11
Let's just hope he's spot on about the 9 o'clock one too, which could turn out to be 11 o'clock if his "previous" is anything to go by.

Glad we're good, mate. I can be guilty of taking a joke too far, I know, but I'd never want to intentionally offend a fellow Blue.👍

ps: Messi announced Wednesday!

Duncan McDine
360 Posted 07/09/2020 at 20:35:16
We should all unite in celebrating the capture of a world class player – something that hasn't happened at Everton for most of my life!!

Someone that could play in as many as 8 games per season (between injuries) and create a number of chances for Dom to fudge up. Hallelujah

Si Cooper
361 Posted 07/09/2020 at 20:38:08
I think you are downplaying TW there, Keith. We've had some interesting news on here that you'd never see on the Official Site.

I like the terms of this deal (two years with option for another) and I think if he doesn't adapt to the Premier League, we would recoup everything if he moved to China or MLS (don't want to be rude to our mates across the pond but I do see that as a bit of an early retirement option).

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