Davies the latest player to suffer injury in training

We can never have a settled formation and rotation is a term applied because of injuries not because of excessive talented players, like Man City.

Beginning to think this season is a write-off already.

We need a miracle to get any points in the next three games.

Happened since time began...

A few months ago it would have been similar odds as Delph and Gbamin being our only fit central midfielders.

Some suspicious minds say that Finch Farm has a curse and even the wheat crop failed there 200 years ago. But it's alright Mama, Doucoure and Allan are reported to be possibilities to start.

Nobody to blame for this. Even the youngest and fittest players can tweak a knee, in training or a game. And it would hard to imagine a fitter player than Davies.

He's played one half of one game.

I know young Onyango is only just back from long-term injury, but surely he must be on the bench in Tom's place in the event that we are left with Allan and Gbamin in the defensive midfield slots?

Things will only get better in the New Year, for the run-up to season's end, those players will have to scrap for their lives to get anything at all.

It might be the opportunity to give Warrington a go if Onyango isn't quite match fit either.

Warrington is probably a better footballer than Onyango – but Onyango has the advantage of being built like Fellaini.

I can't see this manager having any intention of starting a youngster.

Enormous step up, but these are the opportunities that come along. Surely him and / or Onyango are at least on the bench? Because with a potential midfield of Delph and Gbamin, they're definitely coming on! Just no Holgate please. Not in midfield. Not against City.

If that's true, Tony, it feels like mid-December to me.

Let's face it, he's not known for trusting or even giving youngsters a chance. Simms up front is a no-brainer for a start.

I'd have no problem with Simms starting, but I've seen him play once. I'd just rather going with the unknown compared to what I've seen from the current Calvert-Lewin stand-in. Emphasis on the "stand".

I like that Alan!!

Those hoping Gbamin can step up... please stop. Cotton wool him now and sell asap.

Young lads to be given a chance. I've no problem with that. Have to be fit, strong, fast and good at passing. They could become first-team regulars very fast as, in some ways, it's a position better suited to inexperienced players to shine and be guided by those around you.